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Ney fingering Sed ([email protected]) 2004-02-06 The information here may be false. I just deduced things. First, I will explain how I did this. We will suppose that for a given fingering, the obtained tone is a harmonic of the basic sound for this fingering. (This more or less matches what happens with the ney, for what I can tell. I am not a specialist of this.) In this document, we will describe only seven fingerings, so we need the frequency of the basic sound for each of these seven fingerings. I obtained this information from various web resources. I will suppose that the first note of a ney is a C at 261.6 Hz. This is probably wrong, but it helps to deduce the rest. If the first note is a C, we have that the next note is a D. Then, we have a D#, then an E semi-bemol, a F, a F# and a G, which gives us our seven fingerings. The corresponding frequencies will be 293.7 Hz, 311.1 Hz, 320.0 Hz, 349.2 Hz, 370.0 Hz, and 392.0 Hz. When air vibrates in a tube, it will create one, or two, or three, or ..., waves, depending on the pressure of the air flow (or some other parameters, I am not a specialist of this). When there is only one wave, its length is the length of the tube. When there are two waves, each one is half the tube, For three waves, they will be 1/3 of the tube, etc. If we suppose that we have one wave for the C at 261.6 Hz, we can deduce that the frequency that will come out with the same fingering if we producetwo waves will be the double. For three waves, it will be the triple, etc. These are the frequencies shown below the notes in the figures. I suppose that E semi-bemol is at 320.0 Hz, it may not be correct, but I think it’s not that bad. Frequencies of obtained tones won’t exactly match the frequency of an existing note, especially for the highest tones, we may have 20 Hz and even 40 Hz of difference with an existing note, so some deduced notes may be wrong. I may have tagged this fingering as a C where it really is a C semi-flat, for instance. But since the obtained frequency does not exactly match the one of a note, it’s hard to tell what is this note we ear. As I said, take this information as is. Here is a table of notes with their frequencies (in Hz). This are the real values for the notes. I used this table to choose in the figures what was the closest note for one fingering. A A# B C C# D D# E F F# G G# 220.0 233.1 246.9 261.6 277.2 293.7 311.1 329.6 349.2 370.0 392.0 415.3 A A# B C C# D D# E F F# G G# 440.0 466.2 493.9 523.3 554.4 587.3 622.3 659.3 698.5 740.0 784.0 830.6 A A# B C C# D D# E F F# G G# 880.0 932.3 987.8 1046.5 1108.7 1174.7 1244.5 1318.5 1396.9 1480.0 1568.0 1661.2 A A# B C C# D D# E F F# G G# 1760.0 1864.7 1975.5 2093.0 2217.5 2349.3 2489.0 2637.0 2793.8 2960.0 3136.0 3322.4 Take the information as is. If you know the fingering is not correct, contact me ([email protected]), so that I can change things. 1

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Ney fingering

Sed ([email protected])

2004-02-06

The information here may be false. I just deduced things.First, I will explain how I did this.We will suppose that for a given fingering, the obtained tone is a harmonic of the basic sound for this

fingering. (This more or less matches what happens with the ney, for what I can tell. I am not a specialistof this.)

In this document, we will describe only seven fingerings, so we need the frequency of the basic sound foreach of these seven fingerings.

I obtained this information from various web resources.I will suppose that the first note of a ney is a C at 261.6 Hz. This is probably wrong, but it helps to

deduce the rest.If the first note is a C, we have that the next note is a D. Then, we have a D#, then an E semi-bemol,

a F, a F# and a G, which gives us our seven fingerings. The corresponding frequencies will be 293.7 Hz,311.1 Hz, 320.0 Hz, 349.2 Hz, 370.0 Hz, and 392.0 Hz.

When air vibrates in a tube, it will create one, or two, or three, or ..., waves, depending on the pressureof the air flow (or some other parameters, I am not a specialist of this). When there is only one wave, itslength is the length of the tube. When there are two waves, each one is half the tube, For three waves, theywill be 1/3 of the tube, etc.

If we suppose that we have one wave for the C at 261.6 Hz, we can deduce that the frequency that willcome out with the same fingering if we produce two waves will be the double. For three waves, it will be thetriple, etc. These are the frequencies shown below the notes in the figures.

I suppose that E semi-bemol is at 320.0 Hz, it may not be correct, but I think it’s not that bad.Frequencies of obtained tones won’t exactly match the frequency of an existing note, especially for the

highest tones, we may have 20 Hz and even 40 Hz of difference with an existing note, so some deduced notesmay be wrong. I may have tagged this fingering as a C where it really is a C semi-flat, for instance. Butsince the obtained frequency does not exactly match the one of a note, it’s hard to tell what is this note weear. As I said, take this information as is.

Here is a table of notes with their frequencies (in Hz). This are the real values for the notes. I used thistable to choose in the figures what was the closest note for one fingering.

A A# B C C# D D# E F F# G G#

220.0 233.1 246.9 261.6 277.2 293.7 311.1 329.6 349.2 370.0 392.0 415.3

A A# B C C# D D# E F F# G G#

440.0 466.2 493.9 523.3 554.4 587.3 622.3 659.3 698.5 740.0 784.0 830.6

A A# B C C# D D# E F F# G G#

880.0 932.3 987.8 1046.5 1108.7 1174.7 1244.5 1318.5 1396.9 1480.0 1568.0 1661.2

A A# B C C# D D# E F F# G G#

1760.0 1864.7 1975.5 2093.0 2217.5 2349.3 2489.0 2637.0 2793.8 2960.0 3136.0 3322.4

Take the information as is. If you know the fingering is not correct, contact me ([email protected]), so that Ican change things.

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b b

bEC D#/Eb F F#/GbD G

261.6 Hz 320.0 Hz 349.2 Hz 392.0 Hz293.7 Hz 311.1 Hz 370.0 Hz

bEC D#/Eb F F#/GbD G

b

523.2 Hz 587.4 Hz 622.2 Hz 640.0 Hz 698.4 Hz 740.0 Hz 784.0 Hz

b

bB

b b

881.1 Hz 960.0 Hz 1176.0 Hz784.8 Hz 933.3 Hz 1047.6 Hz 1110.0 Hz

G A DA#/Bb C C#/Db

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bE

b b

1174.8 Hz 1280.0 Hz 1568.0 Hz1046.4 Hz 1244.4 Hz 1396.8 Hz

C D GD#/Eb F F#/Gb

1480.0 Hz

b

E A A#/Bb

1308.0 Hz 1468.5 Hz 1555.5 Hz 1600.0 Hz 1746.0 Hz 1850.0 Hz 1960.0 Hz

F#/Gb G G B

bB

b

C C#/Db

1569.6 Hz 1762.2 Hz 1866.6 Hz 2095.2 Hz 2220.0 Hz 2352.0 Hz

D

1920.0 Hz

G A A#

3

2055.9 Hz 2444.4 Hz 2590.0 Hz 2744.0 Hz

F

1831.2 Hz 2177.7 Hz 2240.0 Hz

A# C C C#/Db D#/Eb E

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