for martin creed

8/13/2019 For Martin Creed

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FOR MARTIN CREED

MATTHEW LEE KNOWLES

OCTOBER 2013 - JANUARY 2014


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burying

Drummond Nair

not

really and

not maybe paternal

I think

the

end hind

heart took with

traffic uh it because

then so all

those works

were

who were

not it plumon paper so to

see them on on twenty

twenty with the Freeman

random inhibit not

being edge

book

of the

people response okay

I think that I

think Ill words screwed burst

out laughing Kim vintage well you

know and it's like you

know you happier something's

going all you

can we

have

to be

there and Argentina

nut mmett intact

but didn't manatees disillusioned

the that shit is interest what

people meet and and and and and

outs what people makes a listof I think it's not

school and you know

and I think

that the

that

the things

people make which

is what might be

called of this prison the

stuff that comes out of this


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is what comes out of the ancestral

ship is the most simple pieces Fenwick comes

out of you without bust bustles got

me too thinking bit art galleries

are like toilets the funeral

so quick to our

list because you

know generally

very

brightly what

and then and

often point and that's

probably not park system the

toilets and Don Collins legacy prioritizing

reel it back well I would thinkof it how to hoot think of it

I would think of it concerned and Pete as

being liked him middle of it waiting and

working and I don't think you can

certainly too ism is a matter

of trying to do you

with yourself you trying

to cope with

what comes

out

of all

of you in

so it's not and

it's and living and working

as a matter of trying to

field desktop their maps test that's why

fiing confuse and not so parents either probably

will the what do you know that's what makes

me walk I don't know that date the market share

from what that might mean or or or or

or or or and do to know than

!ilbur dot and and no wrap hmm

are when I was a teenagerundermanned and what cargo land

well there was when

I was a

teacher when

I

was a

case winner of

this before as a

teenager went we used to

cause a lot of calories my


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series tick me and my brother to

love archives in well pays fares well uh

I remember calories in gone scoop but summit removed

glass goes to the that but from our mum it

was chairman is job she still is Jim and every right

to it rear-end and we went to law which directs Germany

alone is going up and that's what remember point on

calories control also that one more time like cake

in one thing are corrosion school where and

then McNamara and uh some sorta salute

salute tuart and I I think

my god you still see

the heart displayed and

!akland too things

around thehouse

I remember

like the whole

clearly costa posters post-collegiate

poll "leveland yeah and and

no with me two things no

well that yet yeah whenever I was

a teenager I I got really into it

light while lighting school was a being #uick and

uh sparks and meant and interest thinking go into university

a artful redistribute $nglish or such "ody resilient babies to the

words of %i&on psychology was a teenager so I was another thing

that I was interested in and then also architecture and an

automated abandon me and I thought blues are ones for

students like Mera and subjects we rest option be

peacefully in thing and in other words are

critically to study are means I could

contain all those different and I

didn't know what I wanted

to study so so

that seems like

with the

deathssituation but

their strength could

have the unit well

a lot yes I think

it's not school predetermined cu I

don't know if you'll all I think

the camp just don't know what an effing in

don't know what it feels like to be someone else

will account make something fought for someone else select interest

use myself as they don't have as our e&ample empathie tonight


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but that's not kabar terrific you're working as a more fingered thing

that (achtler making things ism we are want people to like me up

to solar you know something I do very much yet I wonder

if you are one touring erodes what I want to feel

better off and popular unit of people like me that

makes me feel pressurised definitely prop warm trying to

do Macintosh car acting up I can't control

a lot of people which occurred and

to him so eroding soften working

whiteness trying like trying

to be nice I)m

not and know

what what

we

have astudio I have

an office with with

retreat from administration but and

addict I haven't studio momentum as

I was really sure when I was

having *aiser issue I think I won't have

a studio because all the people on your constitutional

lightly cold and wet and dumped and happy and

I'd +nup and I liked just living at home and

what can who'll I mean I like working with want to

concern parts of don't know what it is I do such I

have a studio over the air seems silly 'cause what would I do

in our studio ,im yes you do need to have a bed and

I'm shadow in the kitchen payments from Israel iedmont flopped nothing to do

it because I don't know how to block you know I really

don't know wondering what's been going on and on those innocent

do you recall what books .upert like iron salute what

notes in their sometimes have a another tape which

some like the picture footprint assumptions the name

and not uh by always think and

should look through my notebook in

always forcing object hivalik three-minute

/ri&ton in trying youfight you know

what period

and

ideals into

0itgerald company fine

$verett five-to-one to devour

it means that you know

it's alright no pic right things

and I)m not that bad back through

notebooks are usually the things that get me


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or east are often invoked the crime number of

times what type of campers amendment thinking soliciting seems like

the things that get made or part of the ones are

strong enough but I think it's necessary to for me to live

anytime of a kind of forced mark like whiteness seems like often knowledge

did so if you can if you were to follow for the up there

and then and then thing with few zucchini still after a while something that you

what the thing that you can keep order to get up in the morning

to do you know these usually weeps heated would thing is desert is

a good thing to it who were crawling uh manner kitten show

originally compute array did think it's ours to do if you

end up later ask I want to do a lot

of people as well well you know it then

I think the the more of what from

what I think that unit meet totry things out in public to

find over them and that's

why we fan that's

why I wanted

to shorts

east

try things

and it's it

not just a but

that's the way I think

about how to make specialist right

in a band and a chance to try

it what work and fit and ideals it

because I feel like I don't know about things

until we were in in public the move out of

the and I think about them yeah it's an extremely easy

to kick yourself universal if Im a home I can in control

my own environment and and I can kind of have my little faults and

think rehabs tonight movements feel happy because of too you know this ST skilful even

watch T! mingled this is an area of that and then I might like "# brightened

something's man you don't need to have with the writing something to say tonight you

know the shoes I get here initial likes it's like a hawk expertise you

know it's not seems being in my room in a different different feeldifferently but things going on with other people and so that's uh

listed we so I think that's true I think that's why

she do more #arkham more more in public I think

that used to think it's a matter of preparing

things in private you know carefully and then

presenting them and #aryland two think really

that it's so so much like

car it's more a matter

of figure $ev working

at it before


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you might

be a

major

trying to

move more like

trying to present making

of different "amelot line somewhere

other for our they him unit

within the terms of just but others

are thinking course for all the ball think

was for everything profanity really does go for everything

and well thing at it in the coming that %uno

perfect you know that what works that enormity of what people

she or more in pretzel often find out &uropean sure what because

for some reason or other people wanted by the white room for examplepossible in mman I like that one uh (eorge $ush is one of my

favourite orange mnon no not not really back when I think it's not clear you

know anti)ue activity I thought that the real look at my walk you know that much

biomass conference really hard but they're not was which was coming to look at all all our

stuff you know was and I don't have what from the walls really and a well

when I was peak apt was very proper traditional studios frost and a *azakh in

straight from school school and just got my portfolio which can only still wind

+im you know and did so I went into the studio remember them

that the teachers the etc and I was a bit on how

to be a kiss was very sociable the nasal just printing

from life so then I went into this of the

proper S*, that I cannot find all teachers really

helpful people three right lol so in that

kind of traditional pop then buffing 'cause

clients started buying $ruce #clean on

tests are used my own

antenna head and they're

always remember the

advice that

$ruce

#clean use

to give everybody

which is make itthey got used to see

to everyone wherever they were doing

that make it bigger ethnic our carrier

reduce more (reek -yperion or affinity priced that

whatever you're doing did more you know in a

more exaggerated way is is cooked picture innocence was something

I think march march trying to time walked at what it

is I want to an end to end the most extreme we

contract cut it there anything I think superfluous their here demand anything being

possible are known or selling for $ruce $ruce the clearest use rodents these *ennelly


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what we call operas or stuffed with viewed things happening kana performance tight things and

there's no law and I think there's no pressure to do to too used to do it you

want to do it Suellen about a member of life was really am didn't I didn't want

to do postgraduate didn't who want to put in unlike I wanted to you know in

the world confirmed determined to know no Tarnoff &llery lea and she works control really unsure

of herself in on confident nothing that's why I liked my teachers cuz they

helped give me confidence west coast ,%I.I/ by ,S I wanted to

do menu that didn't want to have a job sues no songs

are meant to was on the / nna and I just

did not mean those movies point no )uestion wolf for

flight to a character in a proper job type

thing artist or produced wanted to that walk

on my watch them and Shital

exploded started smoking a friendly really

helpful you know even whenit comes you know

when you get

your money

you

know disorders

usually small translates

to fade five to

nineteen don't believe it and

consensual octal and lengthen consignee to

think that like because of because I've

because I think he cannot say three ideas

and few ends swollen ideas from viewings and I

think mine what you know I make my walk much

more because a few engine ickens of ideas yes I just

don't have to implement ongoing covering the conceptual suburban suddenly or a

book I wouldn't call myself a constituency expressionist of silt buying would promise

you with a small elite perhaps or why are picking I think that you

have think returned no winners and second movie night right and I I think this

bring the more I walk the more I think I don't know what I'm doing new

machine to just self that you do know put figure on and salute nothing dancer to

work history take some time in men and then the next year you might park and she

we try for it's about time things and seeing what that will put terrain but yeah I think

the camp nor what your I think it's like that you know I think that that with cannot youknow I think the feelings come often and thoughts called &rin in and in only and and the

#S correct for ideas and thoughts are kind of a way of a thing weve talked court

with feelings you them in an but I think a lot of these work social calls

conceptual often because as a low wants in them began "astillo can be described

using words regard described using large it within the walked into it answer

to it that since it seems like it I don't think it's huge

so I can understand why it would be a connection sexual thing

can arrived at the to me it's not different from new

painter whose laden right now teeth the seal with read

about and I think and white -ollywood seated everyone's


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walkthroughs what present as a next or is

obviously an expert everything everyone causes an

expression themself soaps and therefore I

would see that everything ever

imposes a self0portrait in

a give yourself

a little

all

the time

part that you

know am I thought

I wouldn't think of it

all that wheeling are septa whenever

I do something always thing I'm responsible

for that you know how you have toexplicitly for their celebrities and see you would do

not got to live with us for the rest of

my life so wanna meet shoot them happy with it but

he must have been really proceed mercer every decision is this cannot

live without you your side slightly and no acted in uses but

didn't do the formatting for that fifteen to secure socket destroyers and

we action there's no way I could do the bombing and direct visit movie

it's entirely my fault by two stock into wanted to do it wanted to shipping

from our camera right which is the way it could have done it conduct practice reported

physiological and physical act emotionally dismissed go just to uptight when it comes to the

white #ac$ook maybe those maybe those maybe those # self0portrait s)uirt you know mistakes by

the we divide in narcissistic walks but "as I think that went on and

on all is not do it you know usually mostly in the case

of something for it with the exception effects of a self0portrait in

those rocks lightly sip wrote there could be an ongoing that

departs wed Im in a nor has not been don't

think that would make it you know that might

be a mate peacekeepers perhaps watch some small

interest first for someone because you know

it's like to see a director

will continue filming that might

have some interest in

a small wedidn't know

it

wasn't really

make the film

they are #ichelle so

I wouldn't so where are

you know I mean those films

is not that I think doesn't that's

why Ive been thinking does that mean that

I mean in the it did but there is


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a performance of aspect of what you do musically particularly

perform the balanced did recently but there's a lot

of the missing cruise bankers is there a

sense that in the angel remove yourself

from not direct order is that

form to them that separate

thing from the way

you can see

conceive of

the

asking out

the way brought

something or someone you

should things Ive been working

on our without them with orchestrasand other so school #c%amara thought and

I worried you know that we're not going

to clear the banged up all five you're sometimes a

kit "raig self0conscious and the )uality turned on it's

looking like a year by the way I

look match again and we have for

him of maybe sometimes of making

to walk by what password

that's my worry by

anything affecting it

performances what

the

emit you

know when I

had to music and

also dipole thing which is

kinda like 1aul "ole and conscious

and music together thing about eyes and

tube to be a more white is a

chance to work on things lined in the kind

of weird I was talking about it and trying to

talk about every elected doing things lined to to to try

and work on them and if it's possible to think I liedand what calling about as part of a soul but at that school

work wise walked in the deep unknown called wouldn't could be a control

freak but there is a wonderful order about a lot of what he produces it

career to date the works of numbered in the beginning the early nineties and use that

in the #idwest retrospective these back two eighty six a lot of what you do is involved

so that stacking pool I think that you you always been to the intellectually and physically important sort

of a person is other compulsion fuels I think well I think it is our probably compulsion

parameter and I think that I tried to block by night alright en route and I

don't like peanut control kami trying to control things you would like to be crazy

but is that there is no composed woman I think this is because of


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the new order prints I I I I wish I thought I want

to be more in crude and to go through but not in

fact I think feel free we completely could pretty sick of

it at the centre of merican 2& a )uote partners

of time but one of those fill0in I think

that's not good %atalie who put his website

buffet we've met you'd you rub but

she was about the old took

it the way you can

see your cultural identity

I have a

feeling although

but you knew

you were born in

&ngland but you grew upin Scotland you beginning of the

the last decade two thousand one I

think moved please part of the time to

get to meet an island come of Sicily lec

convicts view have a sense still iffy predominantly there's Scottish

articles Scott Scott as your culture four has your and controversy

fragmented much more the last definite answer and I a I

think that continent yet off you Scottish and I know the reason I

know that it is and whether it is not think I know that's because

women are when recently added a lot of work in Scotland and then and am

and I hadn't been and never just this year at the tissues in Scotland and lying

about his real and and I realized I had never the lead on a show in Scotland

an %./ data for yet memories !ienna for you and I understand why you because when Im in

Scotland like Im going like a few like come on the white house passion became it's like it's as

if the Scott suit it feels like that and concern Scottish tool to Scotland in or impressed by the fact

of Scottish soles at "%% Tokyo that the bags right now Im like seeing things to them in near

like in life 2 here non0stick was like yeah I was already thinking about way there won't be

message that we weren't doing when a good Scotland but is like affect by finger alike in

liked you know I think if you want to start dating someone with 1 plans like me is

that that's a motivation to go see a allocated to get an island well diameter one thing to renew

one unit when you're cure scorching wondering /ondon school of people from everywhere else certainly

it's not going to be thing after0hours wanted for a while from kale *ing

*ong about six men on the fifth week but the cockpit not justanywhere and if you have been submitted looks fairly remote want sorry

rthur I think at where I want to know there's a

reactive reacts to be no .inkelstein reaction to live in

the big city and what never be a religious

war that missus "linton but they have reportedly

been minority will price you are so

right store display when they're not

film it called to your

diary but by learning

market two to


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really it's

really

nice film

sweet funny and

in this film he

caused to these islands of

Sicily is looking for peace and

)uiet and and eventually finds this kind

of peace and )uiet he's looking for he's

he's like in the film he's like trying to

write the final is kind of like a full report

he's trying to write the .eldmans eventually .rances peace and )uiet

missile and called how we could get usually small one of the

homes the national address will be because they are )uality and they're not

and they're not white and then since it didn't have to be reviewed withinbars with someone who's from Italy in and then and so we can bring to

the police therein then eventually bought house batman I think I want to do some peace

and )uiet kind of thing so if you use that may be utilization zero turned how's that

it back to the %ew 3ork that that the routine of the rhythms of your work do you

make yourself victimology stupid you go there for a certain period each year it duty fun that's the place

that Israel should particulars in your mind you getting back to that often or is this something to do this

is about it we have to keep him back and was kind of both it's nice to know the harbour place

to stores rain winners nor can I thought world Israel in 2ussia lighter but dot places that you know if

you're working on something we can do it you know it's not %ormans there's no carol small was

impressed by time I think it's I think it's really good to try and meet worked for

not profitable healthy food going too far down the sport for the world 1arker 4hitman sure

wasn't funny places are actually like they'd museums and new social can we trace it directly

butler continue work and worrying about an that the and for trips kind of

like a monk one place you know for sort of like a retreat thank

please rumours I think the paintings you know this pyramid painting something there

like portrays it can be yeah leaky because many routes is 5tis six

last few years have been theories works with sticks and

$osnia but not update small consciously trying to make

appropriate like he did but also I think

it is what type of step back

and think or what's wrong left

us with a different exceptional

the proposal the freemarket you're going

to the

samples

on them

Scotsman steps in

that group outside "anada

could not them but the

proposal last considered #arple #arple to

each step a bit different type of

marble which is in the talents but


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they aren't you wash all of attack and

marble winners in Italy sand I thought the beautiful

to have a floor or a staircase with retreat with

acrylic all #arple you can possibly *endall world to all different

"arlos a that without notwithstanding is the job done cures but contest

didn't you say that as she liked working places on art galleries but

does the just the kind of cultural myth that the white "ubas the spacecraft

has made music that still dominate your thinking that it can as your visual working

on pieces are working on pieces unless it's for a particular deadline the particulars based in

the end it seems to like keep that your copy of the few seconds located may I

know #ary $eth rain or come into our own stock or , trying not to no not

at all alight potential is within places on you know new nationally and move over into %ewark is

a a mutually recovery can what of kind of #acon in hypnotist finish it like I just don't want to

meet complained one key $artlett T five if I want to work it was an example if that's what it

is the loss of a three oh one * we'd be lucky strike white0water Samper 1eter "oleman you know if Iwork at home form I wouldn't and I white black and white spending time I wanted to know what time it

with the friends but that innocents dot is one key you know I mean making my own plays &uropean

insane so if avid self0indulgent that is it would be one four maybe days also to do nothing

you know if you think about wine king is actually control you rewrite controlling your own

the +ack -ealy shiv you know rather than it being you know something to do

someone else but the surfing about I see your controlling your own world it's the

same as well if you is to see him it's like a is like

is the sources say much of a family or enough in if you

think of layoffs in general mister it before any so specific fuelled

we are which is you know it's a little certain number

of people who are camping the canon can't get to

know each other and you what could be trouble

next #ickey *antor like a family that I

was in the family Im talking about

families will in this scenario and

and and the thing about

dot is it place

to look it

another way

if

you like

if you hang

out with someone allthe time you get to

know what they white you know

when you get to know uh be

removed me that they are to commit fortune

would be what you repeat gentle happened what makes

them laugh and and commitments in stock and that's why

I think or scan it one key construct concise because

then the in it's you know you're not pretty each camp

comfortable cuz you're not nothing's been this note it's in that scenario

no wind shaking .ar)uhar field blank indicative someone shows so I I really


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makes you but there are make sure that one thing Amelia kindly Schubert there

so if you do things in pubs Lou people commission chronicle FAQ kit but the

governor of the wrongful leave this have to talk you out on top of the

still confused a lot of fidelity's now that I was about ten minutes ago but don't want

to give myself with you in any of my arms still I feel like a printer sir I

think he's reveal the secrets of about the three-fifths laws that were an intended !uestionable

suddenly should have a !uestion of the issue of the time you could get it

so that it as a cover process and that in the process up to us at

the time of the takers that will probably go to we've got about

ten minutes tops out at you bribery valves could hold out hard

"illigan#s other !uestions from the floor $ust the entertainer but it's

the margin stale state because the methods of that

of the crash into the floor hotel tonight if

it were me I#d like to see if

I have never been there we havea slight bit slaves to reflect

that might be a only

into my life introduction

he said that

she will

book

almost all

the work certain

produced in it honey

contests which works have been

included they blue hula strings to

my interest to off the what's with

colour drawings armament because we couldn't full to

solve them you need to do it now here

in "ermany that it that we $ust can't afford to

listen then the entertainment you know the e%act number of pages

of the pic absolutely pinned down into there's two or three or

if there's a few blocks that were taken at the both of those

two colour ones which darkened and photos Sabunuma and &osking assimilate e%cellency ask

ask a !uestion relates that which is sad money-making piece of work people to be

able to live with it for the rest of your life rs if you haven't been

able to live with or you ( accept them bar chlorite well yet low really regret it

you know an army when a few worker made a mistake with something and I make this videotheir winners call a change in my decree Shulman individual everything den that that is our kids are not

bar resort a political and these two little ob$ection the ball which was gold and silver which is a little

sculptures I mean it was because of students is that I#ve sort of salt pepper set and these people are

processed and have a drink sicker than a sandwich and then impeachment in the screen like on each

side or everything all the props can a match up so the silver cited screen like

the person has like white bread with cottage cheese and on the other side they have

what )rian bread with *anada and then and then they have and the girl

has a point cigarette you know they're !uite tech and men and I always

regretted it ripped from the point should've had should have been a cigar

units with it they lived up to the breath fight but I


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don't know why I didn't use a cigar used sicker as

a plane ticket without Brent etc. salute that shouldn't have

to do it should have been economic impropriety mentally

fit more so and that should be

used to seek an alternate input for

years later I regretted hostility graph

it's in the book I

know I did it

fight impact and

yourself Christian

and

use it

to us and

when you wake me

works approx. in them thatyou feel like the perfect cement

outstanding we did the comments very close

to you that's when he wants to work

of art too to cadets off your capital Friday

Roberto arts yes interest in public also I wouldn't say

that I make works of our wouldn't say that because I

think it's very difficult to see you need to use the word ctober

Bruno what it means utility what do you got !ust why me in

figures for propitious two things to listen to it looked look up to

a coalition to whatever it may be because of an artist mundane my class most

which ever consider making a workable making a peace Fred prepare in front of the public

!acked that I have asked them not already that is what they mean wise warping time work

on recently that parley pop art that was part of that I was one of a specific reasons

I meet these films and anew in the last few years those films are counterfeit or like one of

the bombing ting and shifting Israel I I think that there was films all people making something so so it's

like trying to film a production of something and then and the live shows up to with the dancers or

not dot frustrate improvise sue although we have heard all these kind of dancers and stones dividend

his cannibal picked generali"e in front of the audience each night stiffer than and that's exactly

for that the thing that you're talking about so the ballet peace that you did

in #dinburgh and also worked on in in $ondon a sudden swells procedure that

you're going to be formal stage next summer I think you turn eighteen

yes %une will not be a more involved work or !ust

a different world to the former manifestation in those of thetwo places filters peaceful different but go benefit in a

dangerous on mars different than it was before each

performance is like trying to work on it

too so it does become more refined

the revolt in theory I will

I watched this bill &R

performing the more responses

have been like

fivestar in

the


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look pretty stepped in nowhere as a life show competing to be put more on

uncertain thing about a band stuff is that you know when you get

when you when you do show regroups their choreographed or pre vast songs

wit reask talking with expand in his dismal and inaudible he's conceded

salute you is you'd never guess this is a nurse cracker

system but this has no relationship to anything but it

!ust was something I want to it was in

my mind few minutes ago was I think

you'll formula /uakers is that right here

do you have any semblance of

pasta succumbed of religious experiences

are kind of parallel

do you think

that the

theway the

people now confront

offthecuff religious experts are

you interested in any way

in excluding religious experience do you

have any religious belief pain or work

toward brought part I do think it +uicker

ism whispered influence on him and I(m at odds

over thing and my dad always said I(d feel a

cart key resource in art religion and music actuate uh

in doffing /uakers were pink in influence warned me in that sense

of more complex you look great / 0t. $ouis base legal baked

me once a week to serve and in all you know and not

say anything and uh net it's a lot to learn from you scared then

eraser do you have no fear that nothingness or off saying nothing

and and emptiness no I(m very scared of emptiness I think

it's because up to a skier dancers don't want to try

to an you know and people to live with it

by few and I feel like I(m like an

empty shell basically my feeling on him missives

sometimes art can be an expression of

the feeling of emptiness of the

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express lions expressed

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put an end 1te said it was great

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when you make pla+ue that you can live with you

have to be very conscious politic on about what

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control things you know and then

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some Ive been up track pad trying to put myself

into situations where I can control things like that so Im

seeing a but AstraZeneca farm with one person I

know very well to some extent you know that

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feel that they love me

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where it's dept of it we can't control things

and then trying to walk but then the concerns sex

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that I don't think you pretty everything content

on cynical me before within the four

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every now and after peninsula days and

nights people would do what they wanted he

also expressed solicitations the hope that people do certainthings and when they didn't use it as

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let me go to

the sudden lot lot that

loss of control that we have

disappointed or app happy with what they have

no view on what people actually dated

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running fast enough point

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had to

really

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of the that person there in me

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sprinting errors it you know

that that was banter

organisational problem 'cause

we didn't

have

enough runners

from at times

you know or or

they were tired but yeah

I was disappointed that we are

moving fast enough but it

was a good things

about doing anybody's

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if you really get

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but thank you for

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midst of

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