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61(2021WebSeries-I/Secretariat)81June 2021

INTERNATIONAL ELECTROTECHNICAL COMMISSIONTECHNICAL COMMITTEE NO.61: SAFETY OF HOUSEHOLD AND SIMILAR ELECTRICAL APPLIANCES

Compiled Daily Report for TC 61 Web Meetings 31 May to 16 June 2021

ZOOM MEETING SCHEDULE

Meeting Time Zone

Date in meeting time zone Central European Time (CEST)

China Standard Time (CST) Pacific Time (PDT) New Zealand Time

(NZST)Monday 31 May 08:00 – 12:00

Tuesday 1 June 08:00 – 12:00

Wednesday 2 June 08:00 – 12:00

Thursday 3 June 08:00 – 12:00

Friday 4 June 08:00 – 12:00

Monday 7 June 08:00 – 12:00

Tuesday 8 June 08:00 – 12:00

Wednesday 9 June 08:00 – 12:00

Thursday 10 June 08:00 – 12:00

Friday 11 June 08:00 – 12:00

Monday 14 June 08:00 – 12:00

Tuesday 15 June 08:00 – 12:00

Wednesday 16 June 08:00-12:00

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Attendees of TC61 Meeting Web Meetings 31 May to 16 June 2021

Fabio GARGANTINI ITALY (CHAIR)Dejun MA CHINA (VICE CHAIR)Randi MYERS UNITED STATES (SECRETARY)Grace ROH UNITED STATES (ASSISTANT SECRETARY)Christophe BOYER IEC CENTRAL OFFICE (TECHNICAL

OFFICER)

Attendees The participants listed in the table below indicates participation in at least one of the TC 61 web meetings. Please refer to the daily report to find the attendance for each specific web meeting or to the TC secretariat in case of specific eventual requests.

All attendance was virtual during the Zoom meeting series.

NC/ organization

Last name First name Role1Attended one or more sessions

AU Booth* Geoffrey Head of Delegation X

AT Elbs Armin Rene X

BE Vankerkhove Philippe Delegate X

CA Brière David Delegate X

CA Martin* Ken Head of Delegation X

CN Bi Chongqiang Delegate X

CN Chen Cankun Delegate X

1


NC/ organization

Last name First name RoleAttended one or more sessions

CN Chen Dongpo Delegate X

CN Chen Jian Delegate X

CN Feng Caiyun Delegate X

CN Hu Qingyu Delegate X

CN Huang Wenxiu Delegate X

CN Jian Pengfei Delegate X

CN Leng Xiaozhuang Delegate X

CN Li Shanshan Delegate X

CN Liu Xu Delegate X

CN Liu Zhenquan Delegate X

CN Miao Shuai Delegate X

CN Qu Xinfang Delegate X

CN Sheng Ri Delegate X

CN Shi Yanling Delegate X

CN Tang Hongzhao Delegate X

CN Wang Kun Delegate X

CN Wu* Meng Head of Delegation X

CN Xu Fang Delegate X

CN Yang Wei Delegate X


NC/ organization


CN Yuan Wangtan Delegate X

CN Zang Wenchao Delegate X

CN Zeng Jian Delegate X

CN Zhang Ge Delegate X

CN Zhong Hua Delegate X

CN Zhong Jiajun Delegate X

CN Zhou Xinan Delegate X

CN Zhou Yanwu Delegate X

CN Zuo Xianggui Delegate X

DK Amundsen Helen Delegate X

DK Bruus-Jensen Jørgen Delegate X

DK Bukkjaer Gert Delegate X

DK Christensen Hans Schou Delegate X

DK Dalgas-Madsen Per Delegate X

DK Krzywkowski Anders Delegate X

DK Macura Dragan Delegate X

DK Nielsen Henning Delegate X


NC/ organization


DK Tychsen* Jørn Head of Delegation X

DK Vonsild Asbjørn Delegate X

FI Mattinen* Reijo Head of Delegation X

FI Söderblom Kurt Delegate X

FR Boileau* Yohann Head of Delegation X

FR Bottollier Stéphane Delegate X

FR Margas Jacques Delegate X

FR Thierry Julien Delegate X

DE Dreyer Markus Delegate X

DE Freier Heinz H. Delegate X

DE Kaim Leo Delegate X

DE Landgräber Josef Delegate X

DE Mayle* Andreas Head of Delegation X

DE Perroni Dario Delegate X

DE Pohl Klaus-Dieter Delegate X

DE Reiter Bruno Delegate X

DE Richarz Frank Delegate X

DE Seiffert Edmund Delegate X

DE Stoerkel Ulrich Delegate X


NC/ organization


IR Kamelzadeh Mehdi Delegate X

IR Maleki Roudposhti Hamideh Delegate X

IR Sharifi Hamid Delegate X

IR Tahertouloedel Sogol Delegate X

IE Betz* Martin Head of Delegation X

IT Aloisi Alberto Delegate X

IT Cecchinato* Gianluca Head of Delegation X

IT Morgandi Arturo Delegate X

IT Petrignani Massimiliano Delegate X

IT Reina Luca Delegate X

IT Segato Tiziano Delegate X

IT Sinatra Fabio Delegate X

IT Stella Salvo Delegate X

IT Togni Silvia Delegate X

JP Abe Shuji Delegate X

JP Harashima Keisuke Delegate X

JP Hosoi Yukiharu Delegate X


NC/ organization


JP Ikeno Tomoaki Delegate X

JP Kodama Masachika Delegate X

JP Maekawa Yasunori Delegate X

JP Sasaki Akitsugu Delegate X

JP Sato* Masahiro Head of Delegation X

JP Suzuki Yusuke Delegate X

JP Takahashi Hiroyuki Delegate X

JP Tanabe Masatada Delegate X

JP Ueda Kazuhiro Delegate X

JP Ujita Ryota Delegate X

KR Kim Kiyeol Delegate X

KR Kim Sung Kwan Delegate X

MX Fabián Vázquez Juan Israel Delegate X

MX García Cortés* Mariana Head of Delegation X

MX Sandoval Carreño Omar Alejandro Delegate X

MX Vega Alcántara Aliscair Delegate X

NL Rutten Werner Delegate X

NL Van Aalderen* Dinand Head of Delegation X

NL Van Zanten Thijs Delegate X


NC/ organization


NZ Johns* Derek Head of Delegation X

NO Oynes Tor Delegate X

NO Ulsrud* Terje Head of Delegation X

PK Aqib Muhammad Delegate X

PK Dar Ismail Delegate X

PH Mallonga Jessie Robert Delegate X

PH Molina Avelino Jr. Delegate X

PH Priol John Kenneth Delegate X

PL Pacula Pawel Delegate X

PL Wójcik Michał Delegate X

PL Wozny* Krzysztof Head of Delegation X

SA Abdelaziz Mohamed Delegate X

SA Alzaidan* Ali Head of Delegation X

SA Elnaggar Yasser Delegate X

SA Mostafa Anan Delegate X

SI Atelsek Marko Delegate X

SI Janzovnik Rok Delegate X


NC/ organization


SI Kraner* Danilo Head of Delegation X

ZA Mabena* Thabo Head of Delegation X

ES Guirado Torres* Rafael Head of Delegation X

ES Ondiviela Serrano Esther Delegate X

SE Kindblad* Daniel Head of Delegation X

SE Mattsson Leif Delegate X

CH Dietschi* Fabian Head of Delegation X

CH Gromov Alexey Delegate X

CH Roos Marcel Delegate X

TR Doğan* Nilay Head of Delegation X

TR Eren Hakan Delegate X

TR Gürpınar Cansu Delegate X

TR Ilbay Fatma Delegate X

TR Yıldırım Mehmet Fatih Delegate X

AE Intalan Marco Delegate X

GB Greenman Colin Delegate X

GB Harris Richard Delegate X

GB Jones Nicholas Delegate X

GB Rustemi Irma Delegate X


NC/ organization


GB Skinner* Clem Head of Delegation X

US Andersen* Michelle Head of Delegation X

US Chiang Flore Delegate X

US Cooper Randall Delegate X

US DeSilvia Tom Delegate X

US Gwynn Pamela Delegate X

US Hon Charlie Delegate X

US Kang Inhye Delegate X

US Park John Delegate X

US Williams Matthew Delegate X

US Woyczynski Gregory Delegate X

VN Thi Thanh Van Doan Delegate X

1. Opening of the meeting 61/6094B/INF– Participant Guide for TC 61 Web Meetings via Zoom The Chair Fabio Gargantini opened the meeting at 8:00 Central European Summer Time and welcomed the delegates to the first session of the 2021 Web Meeting Series I. The series will represent the 102nd meeting of TC 61. Everyone was thanked for their ongoing attendance and participation in the series of meetings that presently involves twelve meetings, planned to be concluded on 15 June 2021.

The Participant Guide for TC 61 Web Meetings via Zoom, 61/6094B/INF was introduced. Mr. Gargantini reviewed key highlights for the delegates from 61/6094B/INF including the guidance on the operation of the meeting for how to identify oneself by name and NC, the role of the Head of


Delegation, the Raise Hand feature and the approach for conducting voting during the meeting via Doodle Poll. It was clarified that daily reports will be posted according to the schedule outlined in 61/6094B/INF and attendees are requested to confirm their attendance in the daily report. As is typically done for physical meetings, a Decision List and Report of Meeting will be circulated according to the established timeframes at the conclusion of the final meeting in the web meeting series.

Mr. Gargantini explained that as there will be only one screen displayed during the meeting, this will be the relevant report or comment compilation. Meeting attendees will need to use their own monitors to view the corresponding DC, CD or CDV.

Mr. Gargantini also called the delegates attention to 61(2021WebSeries-I/Chair)7 addressing Code of Conduct for Delegates, patent information, and language to be used for the meeting (English).

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2. Approval of the agenda 61/6232B/DA Mr. Gargantini reviewed the schedule of agenda topics and introduced modifications as shown in the table below. The changes are based on expert availability and timing. The Chair will review the schedule based on the development of discussions and will eventually rearrange in particular as far as discussion of documents and how the agenda is progressing and future requests for rearrangement of agenda items.

Mr. Gargantini also informed that an email was received by CZ NC informing that they will not be represented at the meeting and that they agree with the program of this meeting without comments.

In addition, Mr. Gargantini reminded all participants to frequently look on IEC collaboration tool and UL website for additional green documents.

The proposed timetable below reflects the order of agenda items as of the conclusion of the meeting held on 4 June 2021.

Proposed Timetable for Series of Web Meetings

Day Monday 31 May

Tuesday 01 June

Wednesday 02 June

Thursday 03 June

Friday 04 June

Agenda Items 1-6a, 6c

6c (continued), 6d, 6e, 6f, 6g,

7a

7a (continued), 6b, 7b

7b (continued), 8-13

14-17, 19, 22, 29

Day Monday 07 June

Tuesday 08 June

Wednesday 09 June

Thursday 10 June

Friday 11 June

Agenda Items 18, 20, 21 23-27 28, 30-35 36-39 40-43


Day Monday 14 June

Tuesday 15 June

Agenda Items 44-49 50-61

No additional agenda items were identified.

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3. Note the confirmation of the minutes of the 2020 Web Meetings, 61/6183/RM Inasmuch as no written comments were received concerning corrections to the 2020 Web Meeting minutes, they were confirmed as written.

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4. Information from IEC Central Office [61(2021WebSeries-I/IECCO)03] Mr. Christophe Boyer, Technical Officer, of the IEC Central Office, provided a report from the IEC Central Office. Included in the report were the following:

Overview of new IEC Committees Highlights on selected Administrative Circulars since the last meeting of TC 61 Revised IEC Code of Conduct (with which 61(2021WebSeries-I/Chair)07 was updated) Highlights on the May 2021 ISO/IEC Directives updates Upcoming IEC General Meetings

Mr. Boyer was thanked for his presence at the meeting and for the presentation.

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5. Reports of the Chair, Secretary, Vice-Chair, ACOS representative, ACEC representative and CTL liaison member

5a. Chair’s Report [61(2021WebSeries-I/Chair)02a] Mr. Gargantini’s chair’s report included matters arising since the 2020 Web Meetings, letters sent after the 2020 Web Meetings and other matters. Regarding the request sent to the officers of IEC TC 64 for guidance on the standards of the series IEC 60364 to be applied to whirlpool spas, it was agreed to contact TC 64 for further input on a) whether whirlpool spas are specifically covered by the Scope of the future edition of IEC 60364-


7-702, actually at the CD stage as 64/2477/CD (as whirlpool spas do not involve swimming/paddling/wading) and to clarify if whirlpool spas can be specifically mentioned under appliances for “similar purposes” since it is not clear what is covered by this term, and b) a specific response on the type of equipment covered in picture 8 since it was included in the TC 64 response.

The complete responses from TC 64 will be posted as a tabled document and revisited during agenda item 59, Any Other Business, to allow NCs to consider the TC 64 responses and to determine whether to form a WG to review the scope of 60335-2-60 and application of the standard for different appliances and develop any needed modifications for a new DC for the standard.

Under Other Matters in the Chair’s report, the approach to be taken for NCs when responding to a DC or CD was discussed and confirmed during the meeting. To summarize:

• if a NC agrees to a proposal, they shall submit "no comment";• if a NC decides to abstain, they shall state "no response";• if a NC is against a proposal, they shall submit comments on improvement or recommendation for complete rejection/deletion.

NCs are invited to follow this guideline to ensure a correct traceability of comments, also in the view of the subsequent steps of the process (CDV, FDIS) and to have a smooth discussion of comments to DCs or CDs.

The above information will be provided in a Secretary’s Note in relevant DCs and CDs in 2021 and 2022 to serve as a reminder.

5b. Secretary’s Report – [61(2021WebSeries-I/Secretariat)02b v2] Ms. Randi Myers provided the secretary’s report. Highlights included that TC 61 is finalizing a response to a questionnaire from ACOS and information on upcoming meetings in 2021-2022. Regarding the ACOS questionnaire, the responses were reviewed during the meeting and it was agreed to confirm whether an expert from SC 61J or WG44 would be able to represent TC 61 on the ACOS Task Force that will further study the subject of “collaborative safety.” Subsequent to the meeting it was confirmed that Mr. Charalambos Freed will represent TC 61 on the Task Force.

5c. Vice-Chair’s Report – [61(2021Web-Series-I/Vice-Chair)02c, 61(2021WebSeries-I/Vice-Chair)]2cCC] Mr. Dejun Ma provided the vice-chair’s report. Updates were provided for IEC TC61/WG44, TC 61/WG50, and SyC AAL. Mr. Ma will address the comment from the DE NC on batteries used in high altitudes from the comment compilation during the presentation of the report from WG 50 under agenda item 51.

5d. ACOS Representative Report – [61(2021WebSeries-I/ACOS Representative)02d] Mr. Jørn Tychsen provided the report in his role as TC 61 representative to ACOS. Mr. Tychsen noted the questionnaire as previously addressed by the TC 61 Secretary and provided updates on ACOS activities relating to IEC Guides 104 and 107.


Regarding SMPS and the letter sent to ACOS by TC 61 following the last plenary in 2020, Mr. Tychsen’s report explained that there was not a definitive recommendation presented by ACOS to the SMB on the subject of consistent application of the IEC Basic and Group Safety Publications. As a result, there is no clear outcome on the enforcement of requirements in the Basic and Group Safety Publications or specifically on the two areas addressed in the TC 61 letter on standards for transformers not following IEC 61558-2-16 and the required number of Y-capacitors. NCs expressed concern that in order to obtain a decision by the SMB, ACOS will need to make a clear recommendation to the SMB such as by presenting a Question of Principle. Mr. Tychsen will confirm what was presented in the latest ACOS report to the SMB. If a recommendation by ACOS was not presented to the SMB in its report, TC 61 will send a letter to ACOS to clarify the intent of the previous letter from TC 61 and request that ACOS provide a clear position to the SMB for the purpose of ensuring coordination of horizontal standards.

Mr. Tychsen was asked to verify if the problems mentioned by TC61 have been addressed in the report from ACOS to SMB and, if yes, if a feed-back was received. If not Mr Tychsen will take care of checking that this will be appropriately done in the report ACOS will send to SMB after their next meeting.

Mr. Tychsen was then thanked for his role as TC 61 representative to ACOS.

5e. CTL Liaison Report – [61(2021WebSeries-I/CTL Liaison)02e v2, 61(2021WebSeries-I/CTL Liaison 02eCC] Enquiries and the comment compilation will be discussed under Agenda Item 49, Questions of Interpretation. NCs having further comments on the CTL Liaison Report were required to submit them prior to the planned discussion of the questions of interpretation during the 2021-05-28 web meeting. Comments had to be sent to Ms. Myers and Ms. Roh to be posted as a tabled document for the comment compilation on the report.Mr. Gargantini informed the meeting that item 1 in the CTL Liaison Report shall not be considered by TC 61 members as it is falling under the responsibility of SC 61C

5f. ACEC Representative Report Mr. Edmund Seiffert provided the report in his role as TC 61 representative to ACEC. Mr. Seiffert mentioned that TC 61 should have a liaison with IEC TC 23 given that appliances are an important part of IoT and the like, as well as the impact on TC 61 from work happening within TC 23 on automation, LVDC, energy management and with specific components such as switches for appliances. TC 61 should also consider a liaison with IEC SEG 9, Smart Home/Office Building Systems. Regarding TC 23, TC 61 does have a liaison with the TC but there is no liaison representative noted. Regarding the liaison with SEG 9, it was agreed to wait for the MT23 report under agenda item 51 and then make a decision.

Mr. Seiffert was thanked for his role as TC 61 representative to ACEC.


5g. AG28 Report – [61(2021WebSeries-I/AG28)02g, 61(2021WebSeries-I/AG28)02gCC] The report and the related comment compilation will be discussed under Agenda Item 49, Questions of Interpretation. NCs having further comments on the AG28 report were required to submit them prior to the planned discussion of the questions of interpretation during the 2021-06-14 web meeting. Comments to be sent to Ms. Myers and Ms. Roh to be posted as a tabled document for the comment compilation on the report.

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6. IEC 60335-1: Household and similar electrical appliances – Safety – Part 1: General requirements

6a. 61/6190/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6240/INF Great Britain, Annex TAlso taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/GBNC)67The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6240A/INF

MB/NC Line number(e.g. 17)

Clause/ Subclause(e.g. 3.1)

Paragraph/ Figure/ Table/

(e.g. Table 1)

Type of comment

Comments Proposed change Observations of the secretariat

1 GB01 ge The British National Committee supports the proposal without comment.

Noted

2 AU01 ge The existing Annex T is sufficient Reject the DC Accepted because it is considered that Annex T in the published standard covers in a suitable manner the safety requirements for the consideration of the resistance of plastic materials to UVC effects. It was considered that the proposal from GB NC did not contain the intended safety level and eventually, to be considered as an appropriate basis for discussion, it





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Type of comment


would need further analysis and refinement also based on the comments received.

3 DE01 te The rationale that lab staff may be exposed to too high radiation is not comprehensible. The compliance criteria is changed from the measured degradation of mechanical properties of plastic materials to simply pass criteria of strength test according to IEC 60335-1 after 1000h exposure time which is not very much in a typical lifetime of 15 years or more.

Reject the proposal to reduce the acceptance criteria to strength test only.

See 2

4 DE02 te The test in annex T is an acceleration test to simulate the degradation of the material in a typical lifetime of 15 years. The exposure dose should not be reduced compared to the existing requirement. If using the internal UV-C light source with an irradiance at the specimen of E0 [W/m2] for the test, it should be required to use the same UV-C dose and tests as in the current standard. The exposure time te in the test should therefore be te = 10W/m2 / E0 * 1000 h.

Reject the proposal for an unspecified exposure dose.

See 2

4a GB02 After extensive consultation with many external test labs, we the GB committee are not aware of any lab accredited to be able to perform this test.

See 2. During the meeting is was clarified that laboratories exist that are able to perform this test. References to some of these laboratories were identified during the meeting and in previous





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Type of comment


correspondence the Chair had on an enquiry on this matter, and will be forwarded to GB NC.

5 NL01 1-28 Annex T te It is unclear what is the intent of the UK proposal.In the way they propose, no specifics for either ISO 4892-1:2016 nor ISO 4892-2:2013 are given anymore.As Annex T is reference from 22.57 but in this clause there no standards mentioned, this means that with the suggested replacement there are no references to the ISO standards anymore.

Furthermore, technical data to support the proposal for such a major change of annex T is missing.

Delete proposal See 2

6 TR01 ge TR NC does not support this proposal with following comments.

In general, for household appliance, products life cycles are more than 1000 hours. Additionally, in the appliances which have UV-C source, the source is not constantly active during the operation time this is why the proposed test does not represent real conditions.

Delete the proposal. See 2

7 US01 Annex T te The current testing in Annex T is a material test that could lead to materials having a UV-C rating. The proposed end-product test method would not easily translate to a material pre-selection rating.

Keep the existing Annex T test, but allow the end-product test as an alternative.

See 2





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This test is 200 hours of conditioning plus 1000 hours of operation whereas the current test is only 24 hours of exposure.

7a GB03 We would like to agree with comment US01.

See 2

8 FR01 ge It’s not understood if when applying Annex T.1.2.iii, how the clause 22.57 needs to be applied. Does the disassembled product need to be conditionned during 200 hours at 40°C and run during 1000 hours in normal use ?

Clarify the circular reference between clause 22.57 and annex T.1.2.iii

See 2

9 NZ01 ge It seems to us that the rationale given for this proposal is based on a complete misunderstanding of 22.57 and Annex T. It also seems to be somewhat in conflict with the text Annex ZG in EN 60335-1 for Clause 32.The test in the current standard is a material test that is applied to non-metallic materials within the appliance that are exposed to UV-C.The lamp used for the tests is a special lamp that produces UV-C. It is specified to give reproducibility for the test and so that individual appliances do not need to be tested. The lamps in the ISO standards that produce UV-A and UV-B are not used. Only some aspects of the procedures are used.If any change to Annex T is really necessary then see our comments below.

If it is necessary to include text concerning dangers of testing using a UV-C source, the method specified in Part 2 of the Directives can be used.

Add the substance of the following text to Annex T:

WARNING - The tests specified in this Annex can lead to hazardous situations within the laboratory due to the use of a UV-C radiation source. Safety precautions are absolutely necessary to avoid laboratory staff exposure to UV-C.

Accepted

9a GB04 We would also like to agree with NZ01. See 9

10 NO01 Rationale ge A simplification of Annex T is highly supported, but the following should be clarified:In the rationale it is stated that “UV-C has

To be clarified. Not accepted because it is considered that the test is needed and





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minimal effect on non-metallic materials as this wavelength only affects the surface of the material”. If this is a common understanding among experts, is this Annex T at all needed?

the need for its application is increasing considering the growing use of UV-C lamps with antibacterial function.

11 US04 5.2 te This testing will be conducted on 3 separate appliances, so 5.2 will need to be updated to reflect this.

Add the following to 5.2:

If the test of normative Annex T has to be carried out, three additional appliances are needed.

Not accepted

12 DK01 18 Annex T te There is no background information provided regarding the 200h duration of the preconditioning test, so where does this number come from?

Additionally, the test needs to be better specified. In addition to te 40C ambient, are there any other requirements to take into consideration, such as the humidity and whether the sample should be shielded from influences of light (daylight) during the conditioning period.

Please provide additional background for the conditioning duration.

Please provide additional specifications for the preconditioning including specification of ambient humidity and whether shielding from daylight exposure during this period is necessary, so that the test can be uniformly applied throughout.

See 2

13 NZ02 18 T.1.1 te The preconditioning should use guidance in ISO 291

Condition as specified in ISO 291 for Class 2 atmospheres.

Accepted to be added before the last paragraph in the introduction, immediately before the modification to "9 Test report":

6.3 Storage and conditioning

6.3.3 A Class 2 atmosphere shall be used.





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14 NO02 19-20 T.1.1 te It must be clarified if the temp. is intended to be 40oC also during the 1000 hrs-test.

To be clarified. See 2

15 NO03 19-20 T.1.1 Te We propose to compensate for any time that may be lost during the test if a UV-C source should break down.

Add the following:“If a UV-C source breaks down during the test, it is replaced as soon as possible and the time lost during the break down is compensated”.

See 2

16 NZ03 19 - 20 T.1.1 te The UV-C source can be that specified by the manufacturer but it must not produce ozone and shall have the minimum characteristics specified in 5.1.1 of existing Annex T

The UV-C emitter shall be a low pressure mercury lamp with a quartz envelope having a continuous spectral irradiance of at least 10 W/m2 at 254 nm.

See 2

17 US02 19 T.1.1 te The 1000 hours of normal operation of the appliance could translate to only a few hours of UV-C exposure for appliances where the UV-C exposure is periodic. To confirm our understanding of the test method, we would like an answer to the following question.

For appliances with periodic UV-C operation during normal operation of the appliance, could the test be shortened by continuous UV-C exposure for the calculated number of hours of UV-C operation in 1000 hours of appliance operation?For example if the UV-C is activated for 15 minutes of a 1 hour cycle, can the test be shortened to 250 hours of continuous exposure?

Add the following at the end of line 20:

Where UV-C exposure is not continuous during normal operation of the appliance, the appliance may be modified for continuous UV-C exposure with the exposure time reduced to reflect the UV-C exposure during 1000 hours of normal operation of the appliance.

See 2

18 US03 T.1.1 te For appliances where the UV-C exposed material(s) are part of a replaceable module, can the UV-C exposure time be limited to the total calculated UV-C operational time for the replaceable module?

Add the following at the end of Line 20:

Where the materials exposed to UV-C are part of a replaceable module, the exposure time shall be limited to the total UV-C exposure time until the replaceable module must be replaced

See 2





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as specified in the instructions.

19 NZ04 22 - 28 T.1.2 te The impact test of 21.1 does not directly check the effect on parts providing mechanical support. So the content of existing Table T.1 must be retained.The text in line 25 – 26 is already covered by the content of existing Table T.2 so is not necessary22.57 does not require an inspection after the test. Adding this text will result in an endless DO loop.

Replace text with the content of current 7.5 in Annex T

See 2

20 NO04 24 T.1.2 te Which parts are to be tested?

How to do impact test on internal parts without firstly disassembling the appliances?


21 DK02 25-26 Annex T te The specification is that electrical insulation and wiring shall be tested in accordance with cl. 23.5. However, cl. 23.5 only provide requirements for internal wiring, so insulation other than internal wire insulation cannot be tested in accordance with 23.5. As such appropriate requirements to otherwise evaluate "electrical insulation" post exposure are missing.

Please provide post-exposure evaluation requirement for "electrical insulation".

In the absence of anything else we propose to keep the requirements in the existing table T.1

See 2

22 NO05 25-26 T.1.2 te Electrical insulation in general is not covered by 23.5, this sub-clause only covers basic insulation. Is the intention to test also supplementary and reinforced insulation with a voltage of 2000V?


23 DK03 27-28 Annex T te The specification is to disassemble the appliance and evaluate in accordance with cl. 22.57. However, cl. 22.57 does not contain any requirements which the appliance can be inspected against. In fact, cl. 22.57 point to annex T for evaluation of compliance.

Please provide appropriate post-exposure evaluation requirement for the proposed inspection.

or

See 2





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Type of comment


As such appropriate evaluation requirements are missing.

Alternatively, the proposal of line 27-28 can be deleted as the two preceding evaluations would have already taken care of all relevant aspects.

Delete line 27-28 of the proposal

24 NO06 27-28 T.1.2 te “Inspection is conducted in accordance with sub-clause 22.57” does not give any meaning, as 22.57 does not contain any inspection requirements.

Specify the requirement, like e.g.:“The appliances are then disassembled, and inspection is conducted in accordance with sub-clause 22.57 shall show that compliance with this standard is not impaired”.

See 2

25 US05 27-28 T1.2 te 22.57 does not include any method for evaluating whether the material has deteriorated. Instead, item iii should include details of what should be inspected. Using footnote d in Table T.1 as a guide, the following revision is suggested

iii. The appliances are disassembled and the non-metallic parts are visually inspected for signs of deterioration, such as crazing or cracking.

See 2

DECISION: Proceed to CDV for Amd 1 of 60335-1 with the accepted modifications

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6b. 61/6189/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6241/INF MT23, Clause 22.5Also taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT23)69The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6241A/INF





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Type of comment


1 DE01 ge DE-NC supports the proposal partially with the following comments

Noted


Noted

3 IT01 ge The Italian NC supports the proposal but submits the following comment:

Noted

4 JP01 22.5 ge JPNC partially supports this DC as follows.

Noted

5 PT01 ge The Portuguese National Committee supports the above-mentioned document without additional comments.

Noted


Noted

7 JP02 2 to 49 to 13

22.5 te We support these proposed changes. Noted

8 NL01 1-13 22.5 te It seems not likely that the brown-out behaviour of an electronic switching circuit at lower AC input voltages results in a higher residual voltage on the plug pins than when it is supplied at a higher AC voltage. The electronic circuit will namely cease operation at the same low voltage threshold. E.g. if SMPS will cease operation at 100 V the residual voltage at the plug will be 100 V when the test from 22.5 is done with a supply voltage of 100 V (considering there is no discharge resistor across the X-cap and neglecting any self-discharge of the X-cap) and it will be at least 100 V when supplied with a voltage higher than 240 V.

Delete the proposal. Not accepted; see 15

9 US01 22.5 te The risk of electric shock associated with this proposal would require a combination of events that together would be very unlikely to occur simultaneously:

Delete the proposal Not accepted; see 15





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- Input voltage falling below a brown out condition

- Leakage through the diodes of the full wave rectifier

- Removal of the plug by the userContact with both pins during removal

10 US02 2-4 22.5 te Covered by 5.8.2 Delete lines 2-4 See 11

11 US03 2-4 22.5 te If US1 and US2 are not accepted:It’s not obvious that the upper rated voltage limit would not always be the worst case. Either the test should always be conducted at the upper and lower limit of the rated voltage or additional text is required to indicate when testing at the lower limit of the rated voltage is necessary. As this is only necessary for certain constructions, the second alternative is recommended. However, it is not clear if this issue exists for all SMP or only for those with a particular construction.

Replace lines 2-4:Add the following after the first sentence of the test specification:For appliances with switch mode power supplies, the test is also conducted with the appliance supplied at the lower limit of the rated voltage range, if applicable.[MT23 is asked for input on whether further construction details can be specified for when this repeated test is necessary]

Accepted; see also 15

12 DE02 3-4 22.5 DE-NC supports the proposal Noted.

13 NL02 3-4 22.5 te If NL01 is not accepted:This test concerns the residual voltage at the pins of the plug, in that sense the upper limit is the more unfavourable.

Modify as follows:“or if the appliance is marked with a rated voltage range it is supplied at the lower or upper limit of the voltage range whichever is the more unfavourable”

See 11

14 DE03 5 -8 22.5 The proposed text seems to be very theoretically and has no relevance to any practically aspects in the market.If a plug will be disconnected from a socket outlet a voltage like proposed is very unlikely.

Delete the text See 15





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15 JP03 5 to 8 22.5 te We can’t support this proposed change with following reason.-Not possible to judge whether this proposal is appropriate or not, as the technical explanation about the behaviour of the electronic device and measured data showing the phenomenon when a plug is disconnected at 0.3 times of power source voltage were not provided.-It seems not appropriate to apply this proposal to all electronic circuit to discharge X capacitor installed between power lines, as there is a different type device operating based on zero crossing of AC power source (See Annex).

Based on the discussion at the meeting and comment from JPNC, MT23 will review the provided value, and will accordingly prepare 2DC. When preparing the 2DC, MT23 is asked to specify in greater detail the reason why the proposal for lines 5 to 8 is made and why the value of 0,3 times voltage peak has been selected. It will also be made clear in the 2DC that it applies only for SMPS. In addition, MT23 is asked to clarify the specific test set up (e.g. which instruments to be used, if the test can be performed using DC, etc.) to allow NCs to evaluate if the existing equipment is appropriate or new equipment will be needed.

16 SE01 6 22.5 te Not any compliance requirements on electronic circuits, only this sub-clause requirements

Chang from “If compliance relies” to “If compliance to this sub-clause relies”

Accepted.





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17 NL03 6-8 22.5 te If NL01 is not accepted:From the rational it becomes clear that MT23 is concerned to test after the voltage peak but the proposal this is not stated.

Modify as follows:If compliance relies on the operation of an electronic circuit, the test for measuring the voltage between the pins of the plug is then repeated with the appliance disconnected from the supply mains at the instant of 0,3 times voltage peak when the voltage declines and the voltage shall not exceed 34 V.

See 15; in addition, when preparing the 2DC, MT23 will refer to the raising part of the peak voltage.

18 TR02 6-8 22.5 te Appliance disconnection from the supply mains at the instant of 0,3 times voltage peak will create difficulties and cause repeatability problems.There shall be a clear definition for the repeatability of the test and a test set up shall be defined to not have different test results from different test bodies for the same appliance measurement.

Delete the proposal. Not accepted.

19 US04 6-8 22.5 te This revision seems to apply only to switch mode power supplies

Replace line 6:For appliances with switch mode power supplies, the test for measuring the voltage

Accepted.

20 SE02 6 22.5 ed Defined term is used. Bold “electronic circuit” See 21

21 US05 6, 10 22.5 ed If US1 and US3 are not accepted, bold the defined term in lines 6 and10

electronic circuit Accepted.

22 CN01 8 22.5 te The basis for determining 0.3 times peak voltage is not stated in the rational.

It is suggested that the basis of 0.3 times peak voltage should be given.

See 15.

23 FR01 ge It is unlikely to unplug the appliances at the instant of 0,3 times voltage peak exactly. Therefore, we suggest introducing a tolerance on the 0,3 times.

Modify line 8 to read a follow: ‘at the instant of 0,3 ±10% times voltage peak and the voltage shall not exceed 34 V’.

Not accepted, but MT23 will evaluate the comment in preparing the 2DC to consider the appropriate tolerance value or range of voltages.





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In addition, see 15.

24 IT02 7-9 22.5 te The test at 0.3 times voltage peak is not easier to be applied because you need a dedicated tool that instantaneously opens the circuit when the voltage is at 30% of the peak. For executing the test in the right mode, the voltage should be maintained at 30% for some seconds and then open the circuit.

Add the underlined text:If compliance relies on the operation of an electronic circuit, the test for measuring the voltage between the pins of the plug is then repeated with the appliance disconnected from the supply mains at the instant of 0,3 times voltage peak then and the voltage shall not exceed 34 V The 0,3 times voltage peak shall be maintained for 1 second before the disconnection of the appliance.

Not accepted.

25 ES01 9 22.5 te The ES NC is against the withdrawal of subclause 19.11.4.3 (in the proposal, 4th paragraph in subclause 22.5 deletes the reference to it). However, there is no technical rationale for it. In fact, tests in subclause 19.11.4.3 is important as, in some cases, it can be more unfavourable than test in subclause 19.11.4.4.

Keep reference to subclause 19.11.4.3.

See 31

26 NL04 9-13 22.5 ed If NL01 is not accepted:There is no rational given why the electrical fast transients test from 19.4.3 is not needed anymore.

Delete lines 9-13 See 31

27 SE03 10 22.5 ed Defined term is used. Bold “electronic circuit” See 21

28 US6 10 22.5 ed Align with common wording. This additional wording is not necessary

Delete “to this sub-clause” Accepted.

29 CN02 10-11 22.5 te The last paragraph of 22.5 of IEC 60335-1: 2020 states “…the electromagnetic phenomena tests of 19.11.4.3 and 19.11.4.4 are applied…”. Line 10-11 of the proposal deleted 19.11.4.3 with no explanation.

Keep the 19.11.4.3 test as original. See 31





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30 DE04 10 -13 22.5 DE-NC supports the proposal Noted. In addition it was confirmed that the DENC agrees to introducing the test of 19.11.4.3.

31 ES02 11 22.5 te The ES NC considers this is a relaxation of requirements. It is against the removal of line-to-earth measurement when performing 19.11.4.4 test.

Keep the text as it is today to be read:If compliance relies on the operation of an electronic circuit, the electromagnetic phenomena tests of 19.11.4.3 and 19.11.4.4 are applied one at a time to the appliance.

Accepted

32 SE04 11-13 22.5 ed Make it clear that the voltage shall not be measured exactly after the peak of the surge voltage.

Replace “The test for measuring the voltage between the pins of the plug is then repeated three times and for each test, the voltage shall not exceed 34 V.” With “After the test of 19.11.4.4 the test of this sub clause is repeated.

Accepted in principle, MT23 to review.

33 ES03 12 22.5 te It is necessary clarifying if, when the test for measuring voltage between the pins of the plug is to be repeated 3 times, this means to do it at voltage peak disconnection and 0,3 times voltage peak disconnection (which would imply 6 times), or anything different.

Clarify the number of times to perform the test.

Accepted in principle, MT23 to review.

34 ES04 13 22.5 te Requirement in subclause 22.5 shall be applied under the conditions established in subclause 19.11.4. Therefore, the 3rd

paragraph in subclause 19.11.4 shall be included in this proposal, under subclause 22.5: “The tests are carried out with surge protective devices disconnected, unless they incorporate spark gaps”.This was previously discussed by TC 61 as an interpretation, so we consider it is completely necessary to include it in the standard.

Add at the end of 4th paragraph in subclause 22.5 the following text: “The tests are carried out with surge protective devices disconnected, unless they incorporate spark gaps”.

Accepted.


DECISION: MT 23 will prepare a 2DC based on the comment compilation, in particular comment 15. As far as the addition for 22.5 based on comment 34, it was agreed there is a need to align the Parts 2 which refer to surge protective devices, and this will be ensured by EG1 by adding a specific point in the guidance document preapred by EG1 for the alignment of Parts 2 to the new edition of Part 1.

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1 CH01 ge The CH NC supports this proposal with the following comment(s).

Noted

2 GB01 ge The British National Committee supports the proposal.

Noted

3 TR01 ge TR NC does support this proposal with following comments.

Noted

4 TR02 1-20 te ENISA - The European Union Agency for Cybersecurity has already fixed related requirements with ETSI standards. While it is fixed, it still creates confusion that new standards come up with new articles without any reference from ETSI standards. It will be more applicable if this IEC standard refers related part of ETSI standards for related clauses.

NotedIEC 60335-1 is an international standard that does not include references to regional requirements.

(TS-01) in an additional document for MT 23:ETSI standards are focused to cyber security, but not product safety. A comparison table of





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relevant standards for software download is attached at the bottom of this file. In the table, the requirements not addressed in IEC 60335-1 are in red colour. These requirements are not relevant for the product itself. MT23 will evaluate if this information can be added to the guidance document 61/6124/INF.

5 NL01 7-9 R.3.2.2.1 te In this proposal software used to fulfil the R.2.2 requirements is referred to as ‘Annex R software’. This is a non-existing term which does not have an unambiguous meaning. While at the same time there is no need for such reference.

Modify lines 8-9 as follows:

Replace “(refer to R.2.2)” by “(refer to R.2.2 for Annex R software or and, if applicable refer to Table U.1 for Annex U)“ at the end of the first dashed item.

So that the new text of R.3.2.2.1 between parenthesis becomes:(refer to R.2.2 and, if applicable, Table U.1)

Accepted

6 NL02 11-12 U.3.2 te The current requirement in U.3.2 requires software that establish, implement and terminate remote communication to meet the measures from Table R.1 to control faults / errors. Replacing the reference to Table R.1 with Table U.1 means that the software responsible for remote communication is not needed to meet the measures from Table R.1 which is a significant compromise on safety.

Delete the proposal in line 12 and add the following note at the end of U.3.2:

Note: Examples of measures providing data integrity protection are given in Table U.1.

Further NLNC believes it would be an improvement to also refer to Table U.1 in clause U.4.3 as this

Withdrawn by NL NC based on the clarification provided by MT23.See rationale of the DC. It is important to differentiate between the part of the communication which takes place in the public network to avoid





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Furthermore the title of Table U.1 is ‘Examples of acceptable measures….’ . One cannot require software to meet a table of examples.

clause is about authorization and authentication which is also dealt with in Table U.1. Therefore add the following note at the end of U.3.4:

Note: Examples of measures against unauthorized access are given in Table U.1.

unauthorized access and to detect transmission errors – those measures are given in Table U.1. The measures based on Table R.1 are applicable in U.3.8.It was agreed that in the 2DC to be prepared by MT23, the 3rd dashed item to be reworded as follows: “- measures to control unauthorised access and transmission fault/error conditions specified in Table U.1.”

Accepted to add the Note in U.3.4.

7 CH02 12, 13 U.3.2 ed A full stop is missing at the end of the sentence.

Insert a full stop at the end of the sentence (two times).

Accepted

8 CH03 14 U.3.2 Note ed Improvement of formulation, correction of typos.

Replace the existing text with the following:Note The module design and coding according to R.3.2.3 are not required to be inspected.

Accepted

9 CH04 Before 15

U.3.2 Table U.1 ed The instruction to replace the existing Table U.1 is missing.

Insert “Replace the existing Table U.1 with the following:” before Table U.1.

Accepted

10 CH05 15 U.3.2 Table U.1, rightmost column

ed Improvement of formulation. As far as we did understand the intention of the rightmost column with the headline “Modern communication technologies in combination with cryptographic

Replace the content of the rightmost column with the following:The measures to ensure the identity of the originator of the data shall be included in all of the following

Not accepted. The modifications will cause technical changes and even the deletion of the last acceptable





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techniquesk” right, we propose to apply IEC rules, rearrange and complete the text and ask MT23 for review and clarification, if necessary.

methods, see also U.3.4. Acceptable cryptographic measures for all of the following methods are key agreement algorithms such as RSA or ECC, encryption algorithms such as AES and hash functions such as SHA-256 or better.

Method a) Data transmission through a secure communication channel with end-to-end encryption using individual symmetric or asymmetric keys, with cryptographically calculated signature of the transmitted data and verification of the signature on the receiver side, and with authentication of the originator. E.g., for TCP/IP based communication, Transport Layer Security (TLS 1.2 or higher) with authentication of the server; or

Method b) Data transmission through insecure communication channels, but with a cryptographically calculated signature of the transmitted data, given that the data is cryptographically signed with a key only known to the authorized manufacturer; or

Method c) Data transmission through insecure communication

measure listed in the DC.





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channels, but with a hash of the transmitted data which is transmitted through a second and secure channel with comparison of the received hash and the calculated hash of the transmitted data on the receiver side.

11 NL03 15 Table U.1 te It is unclear what the intention is of the new added column (last column): is it providing additional information or is it an alternative acceptable measure for the threats listed in the 2nd column?

It seems to provide an acceptable measure for all the treats. In that case the existing format of the table should be followed and thus the mark ‘X’ should be used in each row for each treat, to indicate the measure in the newly added column is an acceptable measure for those threats. The text in row 3 of the newly added column is to be transferred to a new table note.

Replace the text from note k by the text in row 3 of the added column (last column) of Table U.1.Replace the text in row 3 of the added column by ‘X’ marks for each threat covered by the measure from the added column.

Accepted with the following modification:Move the text from the last column of Table U.1 below Footnote k to be part of footnote k and add the x to each row.

12 US01 ed Adding another column of examples to a table of examples is a little awkward

Provide this information as a note after the table.

See 11

13 US02 Table U.1 te This Table is for Examples so the word ‘shall’ should be avoided.

Reword this entry to remove “shall”

The measures to ensure the identity of the originator of the data may be included in all the following methods, see also U.3.4:

Not accepted.

Even if the title mentions examples, it is considered these are some of the possible measures that shall be applied to meet the requirements of the standard. Other





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possible measures are listed in the note.

It was agreed to change the title of U1 to remove “Examples of” and replace Note 1 as follows: “Other acceptable measures against unauthorized access and transmission fault/errors are possible. Some of them can also be found in IEC 62280.“

Before preparing the 2DC, MT23 will check, as far as the last sentence of the note is concerned, as to whether IEC 62280 is the appropriate reference or it shall be removed, or if other references can be added.

For coherence, MT23 should also check and review accordingly the text of the notes in R.3.2.1 and R.3.2.2.1.

As a consequence of the decision to change the reference in U.3.2 from Table R.1 to Table U.1, it was agreed to remove the note in U.3.5.





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14 DK01 16 U.3.2 Table U.1 te last column, text ending with "authorised manufacture"

The word "authorised" seems to imply that an authorisation scheme is involved. This is not the case. Also, once products are owned by end users, they could also be in control of the keys involved. The original manufacturer does not necessarily need to be involved.

Change the text into "....cryptographically signed with a key only known by entities like the original manufacturer, operator or user."

Not accepted.In no case the end user shall know the key for encrypted communications between entities involved in the public communication.But as the term “authorized manufacturer” may cause different interpretations, it was agreed to replace it by: “by the appliance manufacturer or any other parties that have been recognized by the manufacturer as suitable to manage the cryptographic transmission”

15 DK02 16 U.3.2 Table U.1 ed Last column, text ending with SHA 256 or better.

"Better" might be unclear since it can be better in several ways (faster, longer key length, other features)

DKNC believes that "stronger" is a better wording since it more clearly refers to the level of security.

Change the text into "...SHA or stronger"

Accepted with the following wording “SHA256 or higher.”

16 GB02 U.3.2 Table U.1 ed There is a minor typo on page five where the text in the table reads:“Cryptographically measures with encryption algorithm such as RSA, ECC and hash functions such as SHA256 or better.”

The word Cryptographically should be replaced with Cryptographic.

Accepted





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17 US03 Footnote k

Table U.1 te This seems to be a rather broad statement that may not always be true in the future

k Each of the given methods may address all of the threats listed in this table.

Not accepted, see 11

DECISION: MT23 to prepare 2DC based on the results of the discussion

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Noted

2 DE01 We do not support the proposal with following comments

Noted


Noted

4 AU01 te We disagree with this proposal and do not understand or accept the context of how this is applied in practicality. However we agree with the substance of 13.3.

Reject the proposal excepting the suggested additions to 13.3

See 5

5 DE02 ge In IEC 60664:2020, clause 6, 4.1 refers to “…The DC voltage test in 6.4.7 with a test voltage equal to the peak value of the AC voltage is not fully equivalent to the AC

NL is invited to create a 2DC under consideration of clause 6 in IEC 60664:2020.

Accepted





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voltage test in 6.4.5 due to the different withstand characteristics of solid insulation for…”In our opinion, it would be possible to implement in IEC 60335 the DC voltage as equivalent voltage instead of AC voltage, but all the requirements according to clause 6 in IEC 60664:2020 (clearance, creepage, solid insulation) has to be fulfilled.

6 DK01 1-84 13, 16,19,22,23,25 and Annex A

ge DKNC supports this addition to the standard. However, we propose a slightly different way to do the conversion from AC to DC. Instead of multiplying with 1.41 we suggest to multiply with √2 and then round up to nearest 10. This would result in the following values: 1770 V, 1420 V, 2830 V and 710 V.

This will ensure that the DC test is at least as rigorous as the AC test and that round numbers are used.

Implement the proposed values where needed.

In lines 24, 31, 37 and 45 change "multiplied with 1,41" to "multiplied by √2 and rounded up to nearest 10"

In line 82 replace 1.41 with "√2 and rounded up to nearest 10"

Accepted

7 DK02 ge The way to shorten "alternating current" and "direct current" has been changed from "a.c." and "d.c." to "AC" and "DC"

Change "a.c." to "AC" and "d.c." to "DC" throughout the proposal

Accepted

8 ES01 te The ES NC considers that there is a need to clarify what happens when the AC test and the DC test differ in the compliance for a specific product. Which one takes precedence over the other? There must be a compliance criteria in this sense

Clarify. Noted. The intent is for the 2DC to clarify when a DC test is needed in particular considering the presence of a Y capacitor bridging insulation. In this case the DC test shall be carried out instead of the AC test.

9 GB01 Various te The British National Committee supports Clarify the situations under which an See 8. MT23 should





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clauses this proposal in principle but has concerns that further clarification is needed regarding how it is determined whether to conduct an AC or DC dielectric strength test.Without this being clarified, a test house/authority that does not have the DC test equipment would still conduct an AC test which could then result in a fail.

AC or DC dielectric strength test are permitted to be conducted. We suggest that this proposal is referred to MT23 or other MT/WG for this clarification.

be consulted by the NL NC when preparing the 2DC.

10 JP01 te We understand the provided Background.

However, according to the Background provided by NLNC, the main reason of these proposals are difficulties to correctly remove the protective impedance and radio interference filters, and to correctly reassemble those removing parts.

Even though, the proposals are still intended to remove such parts at clause 13.2, 16.2 for leakage current tests, and further this proposal is still required to remove the protective impedance at clause 16.3.

And, normally, clauses 13.3 and 16.3 are applied immediately after clause 13.2 and 16.2 respectively, it is difficult to provide 2 different test samples (appliances) removing/not-removing parts for such consecutive tests.

There is no consistency and it is not accurate between provided Background and Proposals.

Delete the proposals and take other solutions.

See 5.

11 TR02 1-84 te AC testing stresses the insulation alternately in both polarities while DC testing only stresses insulation in one polarity. To simulate the field, it will be more realistic to perform the test with the






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nature of the supply of the related appliance.

Additionally, tripping currents Ir that are defined at Table 5 – Characteristics of high voltage sources and 5mA or max. 30mA current limits that are defined at Annex A - Routine tests will be meaningless, when test is performed at DC. The leakage current that is read by electric strength tester is the vector sum of reactive current and real (resistive) current when AC test voltage is used. Unfortunately, the reactive current is often much greater than the real current. This is because, today many products have higher capacitive leakage currents since filter capacitors have been added to the input circuits to enable them to comply with EMC regulations. If the test is applied with DC, then the current during the test is only a function of the insulation resistance and it will be much lower. The values of test voltages are defined when DC voltage is used. Similarly, current limits should also be defined.

12 US02 Various ed Correction to use a comma as a decimal separator

1,41 See 6

13 NZ01 2 13.1 te We see no need for this proposal because it is reintroduced into 13.2 and reintroduced modified in 13.3. So, this seems to be in conflict with the 2nd paragraph of the “Background”.

Delete the proposal See 5

14 GB02 13.2 te There are different types of radio interference filters. Some are in the form of across-the-line X capacitors, often combined with in-line inductors. Why should these be disconnected? Others are incapsulated in a single enclosure fixed in-line at the AC input port. So, indeed their disconnection would require re-connection

The proposal has value but needs modification bearing in mind that clause 13.2 requires in any case to remove the bridging (Y) capacitors.

See 5





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and/or modification of wiring.15 NZ02 8-9 13.2 te We see no need for this proposal because

this seems to be in conflict with the 2nd paragraph of the “Background”.

Delete the proposal since it is covered by the last paragraph in 13.1 of the published standard.

See 5

16 DK03 15 13.3 te The reference to IEC 61180-1 is not correct and does not correspond with the published standard. IEC 61180-1 has been replaced by IEC 61180 so the reference should be modified accordingly

At the end of line 15, replace IEC 61180-1 with "IEC 61180"

This also apply to line 29

Accepted

17 NZ03 13-15 13.3 ed We do not agree to make reference to IEC 61180-1. This was replaced by IEC 61180 in 2016.The result of a DC voltage test is affected by the polarity of the voltage applied (refer to IEC 61180 and IEC 60243-2) and this is not specified in the proposal. One polarity may be more onerous than the other – so stay with the AC test only if the insulation is stressed by AC in normal use. Also, a DC test is generally less onerous than an AC test. – see 4 last paragraph in IEC 60243-2

Replace “61180-1” by “61180” See 16

18 NZ04 16-17 13.3 te We see no need for this proposal because this seems to be in conflict with the 2nd paragraph of the “Background”.

Delete the proposal since it is covered by the last paragraph in 13.1 of the published standard.

See 5

19 NZ05 20-21 13.3 ed We see no need for this proposal because this seems to be in conflict with the 2nd paragraph of the “Background”


20 DE03 22 13.3 ed The reference to fourth paragraph is most like based on Ed.5.2.

Replace fourth paragraph by fifth paragraph

See 5

21 CN01 23-24 13.3 ge If the DC voltage is 1.41 times (the same as the voltage peak value of AC test), the electrical effects of DC and AC are similar, but the thermal effects may sometimes be quite different（especially the 15 min test of 23.5）, so it is necessary to verify the equivalence of AC and 1.41times DC test.

It is suggested to verify the equivalence of AC and 1.41 times DC tests

See 5





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Addition, for the product without filter, if it can pass the AC test but cannot pass the 1.41 times DC test, how to judge?

22 NZ06 23-24 13.3 te The result of a DC voltage test is affected by the polarity of the voltage applied (refer to IEC 61180 and IEC 60243-2) and this is not specified in the proposal. For DC one polarity may be more onerous than the other – so stay with the AC test if the insulation is stressed by AC in normal use. Also, a DC test is generally less onerous than an AC test. – see 4 last paragraph in IEC 60243-2

Accepted; will be considered in preparation of 2DC.

23 US01 23-24, 30-31

13.3, 16.3, 19.13

ed We support the introduction of the DC test voltage as an alternative to the AC test voltage for electric strength testing but suggest that Tables 4 and 7 be updated to include a footnote for the DC test voltages instead of stating the multiplier each time table 4 or 7 are referenced.

Delete the added sentence in these lines and update Tables 4 and 7 to include a footnote to specify the DC test voltages.

Add footnote "d" to Tables 4 and 7 and add superscript "d" after "Test voltage".

d When subjected to a DC test voltage, the voltage is 1,4 times the value specified in the table.

Accepted; see 5

24 NZ07 26 - 31 16.3 te We see no need for this change as this test does not involve protective impedances since they are disconnected from live parts as per the 2nd paragraph of the test specification in 16.1 of the published standard.RI Filters may need to be disconnected as per the 3rd dashed item of the 5th paragraph of the test specification.We do not agree to make reference to IEC

Delete the proposal See 5 and 22





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61180-1. This was replaced by IEC 61180 in 2016.The result of a DC voltage test is affected by the polarity of the voltage applied (refer to IEC 61180 and IEC 60243-2) and this is not specified in the proposal. For DC one polarity may be more onerous than the other – so stay with the AC test only if the insulation is stressed by AC in normal use. Also, a DC test is generally less onerous than an AC test. – see 4 last paragraph in IEC 60243-2

25 SE01 16.3 te We see no reason why the Note in 13.3 is not applied also in 16.3

Add line 18-19 in clause 16.3 See 5

26 NZ08 32 - 34 16.3 te The result of a DC voltage test is affected by the polarity of the voltage applied (refer to IEC 61180 and IEC 60243-2) and this is not specified in the proposal. One polarity may be more onerous than the other – so stay with the AC test only if the insulation is stressed by AC in normal use. Also, a DC test is generally less onerous than an AC test. – see 4 last paragraph in IEC 60243-2.The cord standards only apply an AC voltage.


27 NZ09 36 - 45 19.13 te We see no need for this change as this test does not involve protective impedances since they are disconnected from live parts as per the 2nd paragraph of the test specification in 16.1 of the published standard.RI Filters may need to be disconnected as per the 3rd dashed item of the 5th paragraph of the test specification.The result of a DC voltage test is affected by the polarity of the voltage applied (refer to IEC 61180 and IEC 60243-2) and this is






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not specified in the proposal. One polarity may be more onerous than the other – so stay with the AC test only if the insulation is stressed by AC in normal use. Also, a DC test is generally less onerous than an AC test. – see 4 last paragraph in IEC 60243-2.

28 NZ10 46 - 50 22.16 te We see no need for this change as this test does not involve RI filters or protective impedance.The cord standards only apply an AC voltage except a test for long term resistance of insulation to DC is specified in IEC 62821-3 using a voltage of 220 V with polarity specified.The result of a DC voltage test is affected by the polarity of the voltage applied (refer to IEC 61180 and IEC 60243-2) and this is not specified in the proposal. One polarity may be more onerous than the other – so stay with the AC test only if the insulation is stressed by AC in normal use.


29 US03 46-53, 62-69, 75-80

22.16, 23.5, 25.7

ed Since these electric strength tests are between conductors and metal foil wrapped around the insulation, there is no need to introduce the DC test voltages here. While we do not object to the use of a DC test voltage, it is preferred to remove the DC option from these subclauses to reduce complexity of the standard.

Remove the revisions to these subclauses

Accepted

30 NZ11 54 - 58 23.3 te We see no need for this change as this test does not involve RI filters or protective impedance.The cord standards only apply an AC voltage except a test for long term resistance of insulation to DC is specified in IEC 62821-3 using a voltage of 220 V with polarity specified.

Delete the proposal. Accepted





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The result of a DC voltage test is affected by the polarity of the voltage applied (refer to IEC 61180 and IEC 60243-2) and this is not specified in the proposal. One polarity may be more onerous than the other – so stay with the AC test only if the insulation is stressed by AC in normal use.

31 NZ12 62-66 23.5 te We see no need for this change as this test does not involve RI filters or protective impedance.The cord standards only apply an AC voltage except a test for long term resistance of insulation to DC is specified in IEC 62821-3 using a voltage of 220 V with polarity specified.The result of a DC voltage test is affected by the polarity of the voltage applied (refer to IEC 61180 and IEC 60243-2) and this is not specified in the proposal. One polarity may be more onerous than the other – so stay with the AC test only if the insulation is stressed by AC in normal use.


32 NZ13 75-80 25.7 te We see no need for this change as this test does not involve RI filters or protective impedance.The cord standards only apply an AC voltage except a test for long term resistance of insulation to DC is specified in IEC 62821-3 using a voltage of 220 V with polarity specified.The result of a DC voltage test is affected by the polarity of the voltage applied (refer to IEC 61180 and IEC 60243-2) and this is not specified in the proposal. One polarity may be more onerous than the other – so stay with the AC test only if the insulation is stressed by AC in normal use.


33 NZ14 82 Annex A te Noting that Annex A is informative, we Delete the proposal unless the Accepted





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presume that this refers to the third paragraph in A.3.The text in the third paragraph has a multiplier of 1,5 to calculate the DC voltage value. This multiplier was taken from EN 50106Before we agree to the change proposed in the DC, we would like to receive answers to the following questions:1) What is the status in Europe of EN 50106 with respect to EU Directives, Decisions etc.?2) Has the multiplier change been proposed for inclusion in EN 50106.?

change is also included in EN 50106.

DECISION: NLNC will prepare a 2DC based on the results of discussion at the meeting. The 2DC will be aligned with 60335-1 ED6.

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1 DE01 ge DE-NC supports the proposal partially with the following comments

Noted

2 ES01 te The ES NC is against the proposal with the following comments.

Reject the proposal. Noted


Noted





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4 AU01 ge In our country and many other countries plugs connected class I appliances cannot be connected to a socket-outlet without an earth connection. This appears to be only an issue For individual countries that allow a socket without an earth.


5 IT01 ge In our opinion, the proposal would lead to a reassessment of the characteristic constructions of class I appliances as they are currently defined by the standard.


6 IT02 te The proposal is not clear because it should define when the measurement must be done, or rather:- During 5 s force application? - At the end of the test?

Clarify when the measurement must be done

Accepted to add the following sentence after line 26: During this time no reduction of distances below the values in Clause 29 shall be verified

7 NZ01 ge This proposal seems not to consider - the text in 29.1, 3rd paragraph of

the requirement;- the text in 29.1.4, 3rd paragraph of

the requirement;- that in many countries plug

connected class I appliances cannot be connected to a socket-outlet without an earth connection due to the plug and socket-outlet configurations (refer to https://www.iec.ch/world-plugs)

Revise the proposal to take account of the dashed items in our comments

See 10

8 SE01 22.31 ge The Swedish NC supports the proposal in principle, but we don´t agree to include also basic insulation in clause 22.31.There are countries that allowed unearthed Class 0 socket outlets, Sweden included, in dry locations without access to earthed metal parts. Since more than 40 years,

See 10

https://www.iec.ch/world-plugs





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earthed socket outlets are required in any location.

It will have a huge impact on many Class I appliances to introduce this new requirement without a clear justification and it is not in line with the definition of Class I.

9 TR02 1-26 te Lack of protective earth cannot be evaluated as a failure mode because of the class I definition in the part 1.For class I appliance, the main socket in the users’ house must have an earthing connection.

Otherwise all the related part of the safety standard must be re-evaluated with this approach.

3.3.9class I applianceappliance in which protection against electric shock does not rely on basic insulation only but which includes an additional safety precaution, in that conductive accessible parts are connected to the protective earthing conductor in the fixed wiring of the installation in such a way that conductive accessible parts cannot become live in the event of a failure of the basic insulation

Note 1 to entry: This provision includes a protective earthing conductor in the supply cord.


10 DK01 2-17 22.31 te The DK NC does not agree with the background of this proposal. The general principle of the standard is to provide 2 "levels" of protection against access to live

Delete line 2-17 of the proposal. Accepted





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parts. In this way the safety is guaranteed even in case of a failure to one level of protection.

The first level of protection is the basic insulation. The second level depend on the classification of the appliance/construction in question and is either protective earth or supplementary insulation (or reinforced insulation)

As the safety is already tolerant for faults in the basic insulation, regardless of if this is due to wear or other faults, there is no need to provide additional requirements to ensure the integrity of the basic insulation. Only the integrity of supplementary/reinforced insulation is necessary as already covered by 22.31.

Cl. 22.31 only deal with aspects involving the protection against electric shock (supplementary and reinforced insulation) and not with functional insulation.

Therefor requirements regarding functional insulation should not be included in cl. 22.31.

11 ES02 2-6 22.31 te The proposal is already covered by the standard, no need to change anything.

Reject the proposal. See 10

12 US01 2-6 22.31 te Wear for basic and functional insulation is addressed by 29.1 which requires an additional 0,5 mm clearance where the clearance could be affected by wear. Clearances for supplementary and reinforced insulation are not allowed to be affected by wear according to 22.31 and 29.1.


13 JP01 2-15 22.31 te We do not support the proposal (line 2-15), and it is not necessary for the following

Delete the proposal at line 2-15. See 10





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reasons.

- For the functional insulations, we doubt if such big current is occurred to make fire when a wire, screw, nut or spring, becomes loose or falls out of position.

- For the terminals of external conductors, there are similar requirements in clause 26. Then, this proposal is duplicate requirement in same standard.

- For the basic insulation, we should not consider to connect to the unearth socket outlet. Even if we consider, it is the double fault condition with the loosening of a wire, screw, nut or spring, becomes loose or falls out of position, and the connecting to the unearth socket outlet.

- For the basic insulation, it should be limited to the basic insulation with earth construction because the double, supplementary and reinforced insulations are also specified separately in this proposal.

14 JP02 2-15 22.31 te If JP1 is not accepted, at least the following modifications to the proposed sentences are necessary, for some of the reasons shown in JP1.

Change to delete some texts and add the underlined texts as follows.

Neither clearances nor creepage distances over functional insulation in circuits that are not low-power circuits as described in 19.11.1 in appliances other than those that are complies with clause 19 with the functional insulation short-circuited, basic insulation other than basic insulation of class II construction, supplementary insulation and reinforced insulation shall be reduced below the values specified in Clause 29 as a result of wear.

If a part, such as a wire, screw, nut

See 10





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or spring, becomes loose or falls out of position:– neither clearances nor creepage

distances over functional insulation in circuits that are not low-power circuits as described in 19.11.1 in appliances other than those that are complies with clause 19 with the functional insulation short-circuited shall be reduced below the values specified for functional insulation;

– neither clearances nor creepage distances over basic insulation other than basic insulation of class II construction shall be reduced below the values specified for basic insulation.

15 DE02 3-4 22.31 te For better understanding:

It should be noted that subclause 19.11.1 gives requirements on low-power-circuits concerning the risk of fire and risk of dangerous malfunction (two dashed conditions). The proposed text does not address the subject concerning risk of dangerous malfunction covered by the second dashed condition.

Therefore, DE propose the following modification:

replace proposed text by NL

Neither clearances nor creepage distances over functional insulation in circuits that are not low-power circuits as described in 19.11.1, basic insulation, supplementary insulation and reinforced insulation shall be reduced below the values specified in Clause 29 as a result of wear.

By the following

Neither clearances nor creepage distances over functional insulation in circuits or parts of circuits not in line with the two dashed conditions of 19.11.1, basic insulation, supplementary insulation and reinforced insulation shall be

See 10





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reduced below the values specified in Clause 29 as a result of wear.

16 FR01 3 and 9 te The proposal related to functional insulation is in contradiction with the clause 29.2.4 and 29.1.4 (§3rd paragraph), which allow to bridge functional insulation, if the appliance complies with clause 19, without limit of power.


17 GB01 3 to 6 22.31 1st paragraph

ed/te Both the original text and the proposed text contain double negatives that can lead to the requirement being incorrectly applied. Use of double negatives should be avoided to prevent any misunderstandings.Aid understanding of the requirement by use of bullet points

Amend the original text of IEC 60335-1 Ed 6.0 to read:22.31 Neither clearances nor Clearances and creepage distances over supplementary insulation and reinforced insulation shall not be reduced below the values specified in Clause 29 as a result of wear for:.

- functional insulation in circuits that are not low-power circuits as described in 19.11.1,

- basic insulation , supplementary insulation , and reinforced insulation

See 10It was agreed to revise the first paragraph of 22.31 as follows: Clearances and creepage distances for supplementary insulation and reinforced insulation shall not be reduced below the values specified in Clause 29 as a result of wear.

18 SE02 4 22.31 te See SE01 Delete “basic insulation” in line 4 See 10

19 FR02 4 and 12

te FRNC disagrees with the Rationale regarding the connection of Class 1 appliances to unearthed socket outlet. The 60335-1 standard considers that the safety of class 1 appliances relies on the earth connection. There is no reason to consider such a situation in clause 22.31.


20 ES03 7-22 22.31 te The proposal is already covered by the standard, no need to change anything.


21 US02 7-17 22.31 te There is not support for expanding this requirement for basic and functional insulation. The current requirement addresses only double insulation because






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the purpose of double insulation is that you still have a layer of insulation if basic insulation is compromise. In the case of basic insulation in Class I appliances, the appliance relies on the earthing if the basic insulation is compromised.Is this a theoretically issue or has the NL NC experienced fires or electric shock incidents due to loosened parts reducing the clearances?

22 GB02 8 to 15 22.31 2nd paragraph

te Use of double negatives should be avoided to prevent any misunderstandings.Aid understanding of the requirement by use of bullet points.

In addition, in the first dash (line 10) allow a reduction to 50% or more of the specified values as there will be no immediate harm to the human body at such values.

Amend the proposed test in 61/6218/DC to read:

If a part, such as a wire, screw, nut or spring, becomes loose or falls out of position, clearances and creepage distances over : – neither clearances nor creepage distances over functional insulation in circuits that are not low-power circuits as described in 19.11.1 shall not be reduced below 50% of the values specified for functional insulation;– neither clearances nor creepage distances over basic insulation shall not be reduced below the values specified for basic insulation. – neither clearances nor creepage distances over double insulation or reinforced insulation shall not be reduced below the values specified for supplementary insulation.

See 10

23 GB03 22.31 2nd paragraph(published text of IEC

te Delete the 2nd paragraph and replace by GB02, which adapts the 61/6218/DC proposal.Additionally, the dashes require editing

If a part, such as a wire, screw, nut or spring, becomes loose or falls out of position, neitherclearances nor creepage distances between live parts and

See 10





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60335-1 Ed 6.0)

together with the insertion of the 61/6218/DC proposals suitably modified.Add a new 1st dash to cover winding wire as this is covered with an insulating film of enamel, so even if functional insulation is not secured between different poles, it will not immediately cause harm to the human body.Original 1st dash:

a) Currently, only a lock washer is listed as a locking means, this is design restrictive as there are other methods such as spring-washers etc., to prevent loosening other than the lock washer – see 28.4. Description of IEC60335-1 6.0 Cl.28.4]28.4 Screws and nuts that make a mechanical connection between different parts of the appliance shall be secured against loosening by means such as spring washers, lock washers and crown type locks as part of the screw head, if they also make electrical connections or connections providing earthing continuity.

b) The term “other servicing” is not clear and it should be the user maintenance rather than servicing. Servicing should be carried out by qualified people who would not leave screws etc., untightened.These parts tightened by a user might cause them to be loosened because of insufficient fixing. So, “other servicing” should be changed into “user maintenance”

accessible parts shall bereduced below the values specified for supplementary insulation. This requirement does notapply if:This requirement does not apply if:– winding wire covered by means of insulation according to IEC 60085– parts are fixed by means of screws or nuts and fixed against loosening by devices such as, locking washers or spring washers locking washers provided that these screwsor nuts are not required to be removed during the replacement of the supply cord or other servicing user maintenance;– short rigid wires remain in position when the terminal screw is loosened;– parts are held in place with two independent fixings that are not expected to become loose at the same time;– wires connected by soldering are held in place near the terminals independently of the solder;– wires connected to terminals have an additional fixing provided near the terminal, so that in the case of stranded conductors, the fixing clamps both the insulation and conductor.– Close-fitting (for example, a heat-shrink or rubber sleeve), applied over the wire and its termination parts are fixed by means of close-fitting material (for example, a heat-shrink or rubber sleeve), applied over the wire and its termination;– wires connected by soldering are





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Move the original 4th dash to be the first dash covering soldered connections, i.e. keep all soldered connection requirements together.Amend the 61/6218/DC dashed item covering “Close fitting” to use language that more closely fits with the other dashes.Amend the 61/6218/DC dashed item covering “Conductors connected by soldering …” to use language that more closely fits with the other dashes i.e. the term “wires” is used not “conductors”. However, what constitutes “unduly large” now will this be evaluated?

held in place near the terminals independently of the solder;– Conductors wires connected by soldering and securely hooked in before soldering, provided that the hole through which the conductor is passed is not unduly large;

24 DE03 9-10 22.31 te With reference to DE 02 Replace the first dashed item– neither clearances nor creepage distances over functional insulation in circuits that are not low-power circuits as described in 19.11.1 shall be reduced below the values specified for functional insulation;by the following– neither clearances nor creepage distances over functional insulation in circuits or parts of circuits not in line with the two dashed conditions of 19.11.1 shall be reduced below the values specified for functional insulation;

See 10

25 US03 9-11 22.31 te If US2 is not accepted, it is not clear that you can apply the test of 19.11.2(a) as an alternative for functional insulation.

neither clearances nor creepage distances over functional insulation in circuits that are not low-power circuits as described in 19.11.1 shall be reduced below the values specified for functional insulation unless it complies with 19.11.2(a);

See 10





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26 GB04 12 22.31 - te For class Ⅱ construction, there will be no immediate harm if basic insulation is impaired , so the second dash must be the requirement only for Class 0 appliances, Class 0I appliances, and Class I appliances.In addition, even if the parts are loosened or misaligned, there is no risk of electric shock unless the accessible parts becomes the live parts.

– neither clearances nor creepage distances over basic insulation shall be reduced below the values specified for basic insulation.– neither clearances nor creepage distances over double insulation or reinforced insulation shall be reduced below the values specified for supplementary insulation.– For Class 0 appliances, Class 0I appliances or class I appliances shall be configured so that the accessible parts does not become a live parts.–For Class II appliances or Class II constructions, neither clearances nor creepage distances over double insulation or reinforced insulation shall be reduced below the values specified for supplementary insulation.

See 10

27 CN01 12-13 22.31 te Even if the creepage and clearances of basic insulation are reduced to 0 due to loosening, as long as the creepage and clearances of supplementary insulation remain unchanged, safety can also be ensured（According to line 14-15, after the basic insulation of a double insulation fails, the supplementary insulation is still valid.）

Delete line 12-13. See 10

28 FR03 12-15 te For the doubled insulation, the basic insulation or the supplementary insulation alone is enough to ensure the safety.There is no reason to require no reduction of basic insulation and at the same time no reduction of supplementary insulation in case of doubled insulation






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29 SE03 12-13 22.31 te See SE01 Delete line 12-13 See 10

30 DE04 15 22.31 te To clarify and know further requirements for clearance distance according 29.1.4, it´s necessary to implement the following after line 15

Add:However, clearances are not specified if the appliance complies with Clause 19 with thefunctional insulation short-circuited.

See 10

31 DE05 15 22.31 te To clarify and know further requirements for creepage distance according 29.2.4, it´s necessary to implement the following after line 15

Add:The creepage distances may be reduced if the appliance complies with Clause 19 with the functional insulation short-circuited.

See 10

32 DK02 18-26 22.31 te The DK NC agree in the addition of the "close-fitting" heat-shrink or rubber sleeve applied across a wire termination as another means of ensuring conformity with cl. 22.31. We also agree in the proposed added test specification to be used in case of doubt.

However, there is no need to add the proposal in line 21-22. This option is already sufficiently considered by the existing requirement regarding soldered connections.

Delete line 21-22 of the proposal Accepted

33 DE06 19 -20 22.31 te We support the proposal in principle, but we miss a relevant requirement on a relevant coverage of the addressed termination.

Add before the “termination” the words “sufficient and complete”

Accepted, see 35

34 US04 19-20 22.31 te Heat shrink tubing and rubber sleeving may act as the secondary means of fixing a connection as already allowed by the 3rd dashed item.


35 US05 19 22.31 ed If US4 is not accepted, this dashed item needs improvement editorially

Close-fitting tubing or sleeving (for example, a heat-shrink or rubber sleeve), applied over the wire and its termination;

Accepted to be added to the third dashed item with the following wording: Close-fitting tubing





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or sleeving (for example, a heat-shrink or rubber sleeve), applied over the wire and its complete termination

36 DE07 21 -22 22.31 te We don’t support the text because the proposed exception is already sufficient covered by the fourth dashed item in the standard

Delete the text. See 32

37 ES04 23-26 22.31 te We do not accept the proposal, 10 N is an excessive force for a component that is inside the appliance and therefore not accessible.


38 US06 23-26 22.31 te 1) What is the rationale for using a 10 N force? In 25.21 and 29.1, a 2 N force is applied to conductors in an attempt to reduce clearances. These conductors are not accessible.

2) It is also unclear when this force would be applied and under what conditions. For the 2nd dashed item, it is assumed that it would be applied with the terminal screw loosened. Is the force likewise to be applied to other fixing means with one means loosened?

It is suggested that this be deleted and instead add a 2 N force to the second and third dashed item.

Delete lines 23-26, but modify the 2nd

dashed item as follows:- short rigid wires remain in

position when the terminal screw is loosened and a force of 2 N is applied to the rigid wire;

parts are held in place with two independent fixings that are not expected to become loose at the same time when a force of 2 N is applied to the part;

Accepted

39 JP03 24 22.31 te We propose to change the applicable force from 10N to 2N for the following reasons.- The existing 29.1 and 29.2 specify that the

force is 2 N for bare conductors to measure clearance and creepage distance.

- Relevant parts are placed inside the enclosure and not accessible, so, no

Change “10N” to “2N” as follows.

In case of doubt about the rigidity or strength of the construction, a steady force test of 10 N 2 N ± 1 N shall be applied to the component or part under consideration for a duration of approximately 5 s in the

See 38





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strong force is applied to the wire.- Some appliances use some kinds of

guides that hold a lead cable as shown below to have the lead cable held in place independently, near the terminals. In those constructions, with 10N applied, the wire may come off (out of place).

Examples:Plastic wire-guide with a slit

to hold each wire

Plastic wire-guide

Small-sized Faston terminal

most unfavourable direction.

40 DE08 24 -26 22.31 te The use of the term “in case of doubt” cannot be supported by the DE-NC.

Delete the complete text in lines 24-26.

See 38

41 DE09 24-26 22.31 te In case, DE08 is not accepted:The force of 10 N ± 1 is too high. We propose to test with a force of 2 N, based on the test force of bare conductor in clause 29.1.

Modify the proposal by:.. a steady force test of 10 N ±1 N 2 N shall be applied to the component

See 38

42 FR04 24-26 te The term ‘in case of doubt’ is very subjective, and the current clause 22.31 does not contain any force to be applied. The introduction of the force of 10N is not in line with the current requirement which specified that the compliance is checked by inspection, manuel test and measurement.






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43 GB05 24 to 26 22.31 Final paragraph

ed The tolerances indicated in the final part of the proposal are not presented in the IEC format. In addition alter the word order to indicate how the force is applied and then for what duration.

In case of doubt about the rigidity or strength of the construction, a steady force test of 10 N ± 1 N (10 ± 1) N shall be is applied to the component or part under consideration, in the most unfavourable direction, for a duration of approximately 5 s in the most unfavourable direction.

See 38

44 SE04 24-26 22.31 te We are of the opinion that 10N is a too high force

Change 10N to 2N See 38

DECISION: Proceed to CDV for Amd 1 of 60335-1

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Noted

2 TR01 ge TR NC does support this proposal with following comments.

Noted

3 ZA01 ed ZA NC supports 61/6228/DC with the following technical comment:

Noted





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4 AU01 te We do not agree with the Note.We see no reason to specify up to 5N force in the rub test.

Reject the proposal See 13

5 ES01 ge/te The ES NC is against the proposal, as 5 N do not represent all normal conditions. A unique value is not adequate because it depends on the type of appliance and the corresponding surface, for example. Marking in a hob surface is not treated in the same way as in a washing machine display.


6 IT01 te The rubbing force is not quantifiable. Delete the proposal. See 13

7 NL01 1-3 7.14 te NLNC believes the situation around marking legibility exist for many years and form no real problem.

Delete proposal. See 13

8 NZ01 ge We do not agree with this proposal for the following reasons:The text relating to normal use is not conducive to reproducibility and because it is a Note it can be and will be ignored. If necessary, changes can be made to the normative text in the Parts 2.The text relating to a rubbing force does not represent real life where the user will clean the appliance many times with unknown forces applied and not just the once as in the test lab during a type test assessment. It seems that the “testing houses applied extremely strong force during this rubbing test” were doing the test taking into account normal use by the consumer.


9 DE01 ge The DE-NC supports the proposal in principle. The proposed rubbing force of 5 N should be replaced by 7,5 N according to IEC 60730-1, Annex A.

Replace the proposed rubbing force of 5 N by 7,5 N

See 13





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10 FR01 te The current clause 7.14 does not specify any force. FRNC considers that a force shall not be specified in a note ,because a note cannot be more presprictive than the requirement itself.

Delete on line 3 : ‘not exceedind approximately 5 N’

See 13

11 NL02 1-3 7.14 If NL01 is not accepted.NLNC believes that the aspect of force should not be in a note.As we do not see the need to go into a specific test program with calibrated force measurementWe believe the term “without appreciable force” is sufficient.

Modify as follows:Add to the end of the 1st sentence of the 1st paragraph of the test specification: “without appreciable force”.

See 13

12 CA01 2-3 7.14 - te The CANC does not support this proposal as written. 5N is not without appreciable force as TC61 has traditionally considered 1 N to be without appreciable force. Additionally, the use of the word “approximately” makes the text unusable.

5N does not seem like much force. We propose at least 10N.

Change the text to be normative and with an agreed force as follows:

NOTE In considering the durability of the marking, the effect of normal use is taken into account. The rubbing force is applied with a force not exceeding 10 N without appreciable force, not exceeding approximately 5N.

See 13

13 DK01 2-3 7.14 te The DK NC agree that the substance of the note is relevant however we propose to implement it as normative text instead of a note.

We do not agree however to provide a specific limitation of the rubbing force in general and certainly not to a value as low as 5N. Instead by adding the text as part of the normative requirement the user of the standard is directed to take normal use of the appliance into account. This would also include that the rubbing force is adjusted to reflect normal use and

In the 6th paragraph of cl. 7.14, modify the existing text so that it reads:

"The markings required by this standard shall be durable. In considering the durability of the marking, the effect of normal use is taken into account. This includes the force applied during the rubbing test. On containers that are likely to be cleaned frequently, the markings shall not be by means of paint or

Accepted with the following wording, which was noted is now normative text in Ed6:The markings required by this standard shall be durable. In considering the durability of the marking, the effect of normal use is taken into account.





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therefor a limitation is not needed. enamel, other than vitreous enamel. On containers that are likely to be cleaned frequently, the markings shall not be by means of paint or enamel, other than vitreous enamel.

14 GB01 7.14 NOTE te The first sentence of the proposed note does not clarify the force with which the rub test is to be conducted and as such it does not serve any purpose.The second sentence of the proposed note includes a test requirement, which is not allowed according to IEC rules. It is proposed that the second sentence be made normative text in the compliance statement.In addition, in the compliance statement why is it necessary to restrict the rubbing of the marking to be “by hand”? It should be allowed to use a machine where the force applied can be more accurately determined.

In order to clarify how the force is measured, a repeatable test method is needed, e.g. for labels which are not mounted horizontally, it is difficult to conduct a defined test.Delete “NOTE In considering the durability of the marking, the effect of normal use is taken into account. The rubbing force is applied without appreciable force, not exceeding approximately 5N.”Amend the compliance statement to read:“Compliance is checked by inspection, by measurement and by rubbing the marking by hand, with a force not exceeding 5 N, for 15 s with a piece of cloth soaked with water and again for 15 s with a piece of cloth soaked with petroleum spirit. The petroleum spirit to be used for the test is aliphatic solvent hexane.

See 13

15 TR02 2-3 7.14 te The rubbing force has defined as 5N in the proposal, but magnitude of the force is too low. Taking a human force is into consideration, we can see 20N force for probe B which simulates human finger in the standards’ clauses. With the same approach rubbing force shall be defined as 20N.

NOTE In considering the durability of the marking, the effect of normal use is taken into account. The rubbing force is applied without appreciable force, not exceeding approximately 20N.

See 13





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16 ZA02 2-3 7.14 te The sentence in line 2-3 “ cannot be a note , however a requirement in order to ensure consistency, repeatability and reproducibility.

Add in clause 7.14: The rubbing test is applied with a force, of 5N.

See 13

DECISION: Proceed to CDV for Amd 1 of 60335-1

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1 DE01 ge The DE-NC in general supports this proposal

Noted


Noted

3 TR01 ge TR NC does support this proposal without comment.

Noted

4 AU01 ge This proposal does not improve clarity Reject the DC Accepted

5 FR01 te The current clause 22.44 is correct, and the note 2 proposed by the JPNC does not reflect the current requirement.


6 FR02 te The robots are under discussion in a dedicated WG 44, therefore the issue raised in note 3 shall be discussed in WG 44.






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7 NL01 1-11 22.44 ge/te The proposed modification is not accurate, as the standard concerns appliances and not toys.The proposed change is not an improvement of the text in current 22.44.

Delete proposal. See 4

8 NZ01 ge We do not agree with this proposal for the following reasons:The proposed Note 2 contains normative text and will be ignored if it is in a Note.The proposed Note 3 is meaningless since the complete content of the standard is always under consideration by NCs/WGs/MTs/SCs etc.


9 US01 1-11 22.44 te The proposal is not supported. The wording is intended to clarify that if there are toys shaped like appliances (toy refrigerator, toy vacuum, toy toaster), that does not mean that the appliance is shaped like a toy.


10 ES01 ge/te The ES NC agrees with the proposal, but we consider that the note shall be in addition in the scope of the standard, clause 1.

Add the text of the note also in the scope.

See 4

11 CN01 4-8 22.44 ge The text of the current standard is clear. Delete line 4-8. See 4

12 DK01 4-8 22.44 te DKNC agrees that the second paragraph line 22.44 is unclear. "The requirement is not applicable to appliances where there is a toy shaped like the appliance."

The text as written can be used as a loophole for child-appealing appliances. Making a toy shaped like the child-appealing appliance will exclude the requirements for the appliance.

DKNC does not support the proposed

Keep the text but change it into:

Where a toy is shaped like an appliance, this does not cause the appliance to be considered child appealing.

Keep the Note 2 in the existing standard.

See 4





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Note 2 as it does not provide sufficient value.

13 GB01 4 to 6 ge The proposed text change adds no value. No support See 4

14 CA01 5-8 22.44 - te The CANC agrees that the text in line 5 needs to be improved. However, it should not be integrated into NOTE 2.

Keep line 5 of the proposal but modify it as follows:

The This requirement is not applicable to appliances where there is a toys that are shaped like the an appliance, since toys are not within the scope of this standard.

Keep line 6 of the proposal.

Delete lines 7 and 8 of the proposal.

See 4

15 DE02 10-11 22.44 NOTE 3 te We see no needs to add requirements for toy shaped appliances in general. They are not in the scope of this standard.

Delete the text of NOTE 3 (lines 10 – 11)

See 4

16 DK02 10-11 22.44 te The proposed Note 3 on robots does not provide sufficient value since no decisions have been made in TC 61 to revise 22.44 and include relaxations for robots. If needed, it should be referred to relevant part 2's

Delete line 10-11. See 4

17 NO01 10-11 22.44 ed We do not believe it belongs to a standard to indicate that something is under consideration.

Delete note 3. See 4

DECISION: Proposal not accepted

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7. IEC 60335-2-7: Particular requirements for washing machines

7a. 61/6193/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6247/INF China, Mini wall-mounted washing machinesAlso taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/CNNC)53, 61(2021WebSeries-I/CNNC)54The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6247A/INF




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1 FI01 ge The Finnish NC wishes to submit following comments on this document.

Noted

2 DE01 ge The DE-NC does not support the proposal as written and to submit following comments.

Noted

3 NL01 ge The NLNC does not support this proposal. For the reasons as stated below.


4 AU01 ge We don’t have fixing issues with dryers, if 29-53 is accepted also put it in the dryer standard or part 1 22.10 could be applicable for all wall mounted appliances, we as need a test method as inspection is going to be difficult

22.108 – how loose should the fixing mechanism be?

We can accept some instructional requirements but doubt the current proposed wording is adequate. Refer to 2-8 for similar wording

Reject the proposal or add the instructional requirements of 2-8

Not accepted.It was agreed to form a new ahG to develop a 2DC that reflects the comments in 61/6247/INF and that further elaborates the proposal to cover the considerations and hazards outlined in 61(2021WebSeries-I/CNNC)54, slides 7 to 13 and those discussed during the meeting. The proposal shall cover wall-mounted washing machines. The proposal is to be submitted for





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discussion at the first meeting of TC 61 in 2022; therefore, it should be developed by January 2022.

During the meeting the following NCs indicated they will provide experts to participate in the ahG: CN, AU, IT, MX, NZ, US. Ms. Fang Xu (CNNC) agreed to serve as convenor. TC 61 to circulate a Call for Experts for the new ahG. The AC will indicate that each NC may involve maximum 2 experts, that meetings will be held via web and will be arranged to cover various time zones around the globe.

It was noted that since the matter is considered urgent an ahG is preferred; however, it will not be possible for the ahG to submit a proposal by the cutoff date for the next TC 61 meeting





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in 2021 (DCs due 25 June 2021). Therefore, the ahG will instead complete its work for the first meeting of 2022 to allow sufficient time to complete the assignment.It was confirmed by IEC CO that it is possible and in accordance with the spirit of IEC Directives.

5 CA01 - - - ge The CANC agrees that requirements are needed for these appliances, but the proposal does not adequately create them:

20.108: The test procedure and the criteria are not clear. What is meant by “can only operate when securely fixed”? There is no specificity on how much to loosen the fixing device and how to determine if the appliance is “operating normally”.

22.109: Is the intent is to consider the effect of vibration from the appliance on the mounting means? Checking by inspection does not imply operating the appliance loaded with water with the most severe load condition. Furthermore, comparable tests would typically add a mass to the mounted appliance.

CN is recommended to create a 2DC. See 4





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22.110 (and 7.12.1): Given the concerns, why would we allow for certain parts of the fixing accessories to not be provided with the appliance? Why not require the preformed holes?

6 DE02 ge The issue “mini wall mounted washing machine” is not used in the public domain in Germany.There may be new risks coming from this kind of appliances and we support to address a relevant risk reduction.This risk reduction shall be addressed in particularly only to this kind of appliances and not in general way to all others.A relevant definition should be given in sub-clause 3.5

Add a definition “mini wall mounted washing machine” in sub-clause 3.5

See 4

7 DE03 te The DE-NC observes the challenge of different kind of wall constructions concerning the fixing of such appliances with power driven parts and its unbalance e.g. providing a durable firm hold.A relevant clarification will be welcome.

Add relevant requirements and its tests.

See 4

8 DK01 ge The rationale explains that the risks associated with the loosening of fixing structures and the potential of the appliance falling of it wall mountings resulting from vibration during spinning however the proposed requirements do not seem to contain anything that is addressing these risks. As such it must be concluded that the proposed requirements are not sufficient to meet the concerns specified in the rational.

The DK NC recognizes that additional requirements may be needed to cover this type of washing machines, DKNC






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proposes a 2DC with more elaborated content based on the hazards found in a IEC guide 116 risk assessment.

9 IT01 ge The IT NC supports the proposal for regulating the small wall washing machine but submit the following comments:

Redraft the DC adding additional requirements.

See 4

10 IT02 ge The DC is dedicated for mini wall washing machine. The characteristic of the appliance is not defined. In the market there are different types of mini wall washing machine and each of them has different hazardous. Example: See IT01 – IT02 – IT03 – IT04 Annexes

Add a definition of mini small washing machine.

See 4

11 NO04 ge As these appliances may be mounted outdoors (ref. rationale), i.e. cold conditions, the risk of freezing water inside the appliance needs to be considered.Require a draining function?

See 4

12 NO05 ge We do not have any experience with these appliances, but as they are to be mounted on the wall, should there be a total max weight (incl. the weight of the appliance, clothes and the water)?

See 4

13 DE04 1-13 7.12.1 te The DE-NC does not support the proposal as given.The text shall be addressed only to “mini wall mounted washing machine” and not in general.

Replace the word “appliance” by “mini wall mounted washing machine”

Delete the proposed text and replace the word “appliance” by “mini wall mounted washing machine”

See 4

14 DK02 1-13 7.12.1 te The proposal details requirements that must be contained in the instructions for the mounting or fixings screws of the appliance and any accessory so that this

Delete line 2-9 of the proposal See 4





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can be done safely.However as this is related to the protection against electric shock, with reference to the principles of safety integration, we do not believe that this is something that can be handled by instructions but instead that incorrect mounting or fixings that would compromise the electrical safety of the appliance shall be prevented by construction.

We understand that constructional requirements are also proposed elsewhere in this proposal, and with that there is no need for this level of detail in the instructions. For example, the instructions shall not need to provide information about the location of mounting screws or fixing devices (as contained in line 4 and 8). This must be evident from the construction of the appliance.

The proposed warning text and its location is however agreeable and supported

15 NL02 1-14 7.12.1 te The proposed text is about the mounting of accessories while in the rational of the proposal there is not any introduction on the mounting of accessories. It only speaks about mounting of appliances, not accessories. Not sure why this requirement is needed.Further, from the rational it is not clear why this hazard would only exist for class II appliances having a metal enclosure and not for class I appliances. At class I appliances screws / bolts etc penetrating into the appliance could reduce basic






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insulation and therefore also potentially result in electric hazards.Also it is believed that the risk associated with using larger screws for mounting then intended to avoid electrical shock hazards is not to be mitigated by instructions.

16 IT03 2-13 7.12.1 te The washing machine can generate vibration and can create the hazard to adjacent structures

Add the following sentence:The following information shall be supplied with mini wall washing machine the dimensions of the space necessary for correct installation of the appliance including the minimum permissible distances to adjacent structures.

See 4

17 NO01 2-9 7.12.1 te We are of the opinion, in order to eliminate this hazard, that screws or fixing devices intended to attach an accessory to the appliance shall be delivered with the appliance or accessory.

Change the text to:“Where fixing or mounting screws, or other fixing devices are used, that penetrate into the appliances with an accessible metallic enclosure of class II construction, to attach an accessory, these screws or fixing devices shall be delivered with the accessory, and the instructions shall indicate the required location of these screws or fixing devices and include the substance of the following warning.

See 4

18 FI02 5 te Test for a normal operation is missing. Add the relevant test for the normal operation.

See 4

19 US01 5 7.12.1 te Wall-mounted appliances also involve a risk of injury if not installed correctly. So the proposed instructions should also include this type of warning.


and the substance of the following:

Warning: Failure to install the screws or fixing device in accordance with

See 4





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these instructions may result in injury to persons.

20 US02 7-8 7.12.1 te What accessory is intended to be attached to the appliance? This should include fixing or mounting screws for the appliance, not just for mounting of accessories

Delete “to attach an accessory,” See 4

21 IT04 - 20.101 te The clause 20.101 is applicable for washing machine with lid. We thing that also for RADIANT mini wall washing machine is applicable the requirement


See 4

22 IT05 - 20.102 te The proposal is not covering the unbalance load due to the current procedure of testing: "The appliance is placed on a horizontal support…."The wall washing machine should not positioned in horizontal but in vertical position


See 4

23 DE05 15 -20 20.108 te Sub clause 20.108 is not given in the current edition. Sub-clause 20.108 will be a new one.

To be addressed as a new sub-clause See 4

24 DE06 15 -20 20.108 te The DE-NC does not support the proposal as given.The text shall be addressed only to “mini wall mounted washing machine” and not in general.Replace the word “appliance” by “mini wall mounted washing machine”


See 4

25 JP01 15-20 20.108 te We do not support the proposal for the following reasons.

- This requirement is too much beyond IEC 60335’s coverage because the appliance has difficulty to detect whether it is securely fixed, by itself.

- The test criteria (how much the fixing device should be loosen during the test)

Delete the proposal for 20.108. See 4





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cannot be defined.

26 NL03 15-20 20.108 te The NLNC cannot imagine how the interlock with the fixing device should look like. Especially if the fixing is done by screws as suggested by 7.12.1.This requires over-designing of appliances which normally are fixed/secured once.Also the requirements do not differentiate between the appliances covered by this standard.


27 US03 15-20 20.108 te Instead of requiring the product to operate only when securely fixed, the instructions should inform the user of the need to check the securement periodically to avoid a hazard.

Delete 20.108 and add the following to 7.12:The instructions for appliances designed to be fixed to a wall or support shall warn the user to check the security of the mounting means periodically to prevent a risk of injury.

See 4

28 DK03 19-20 20.108 te The test specification is not sufficiently clear to allow for a consistent application throughout. For example, how much should the fixing device be loosened? Does this apply to all fixing means or only to some specific types?

Provide additional detail that will ensure a consistent understanding and application of the test.

See 4





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29 FI03 19 20.108 te It is stated in clause 20.108 that “Install the appliance in accordance with the installation instructions, loose the fixing device.”This means that this requirement is restricted only to this subclause 20.108. According to our opinion, this is more general requirement, and it should be transferred to clause 5. Another option is to amend the definition of “normal operation” as follows: operation of the appliance under the following conditions according to installation instructions.

We propose to - Transfer the text “Install the

appliance in accordance with the installation instructions, loose the fixing device” to clause 5 or

- Amend the definition of “normal operation” as follows: operation of the appliance under the following conditions according to installation instructions.

See 4

30 IT06 19 20.108 te The term "loose the fixing device." is generic. The pass criteria is not sufficient to demonstrate the repeatability and reproducibility of the test and the correct and safely installation of the appliance. Also, what does mean "appliance can be operated normally"? A test shall be created to demonstrate the compliance of the product.


See 4

31 NO02 19 20.108 te We are in doubt what “loose the fixing device” means, and think this sentence will be subjected to subjective interpretations.Is an interlock what is meant?

More precise information is necessary. See 4

32 NZ01 19 20.108 ed The compliance criteria is not clear – so our comment is just a guess on what is intended.

Should ‘loose” be “using the fixing device”

See 4

33 SA01 19 20.108 Paragraph3 Install the appliance in accordance with the installation instructions, loose the fixing device. Check if the appliance can be operated normally.

The test is not clear, Add info about test procedure

See 4

34 NO03 20 20.108 te We do not understand the compliance criteria, as we thought the intention was that the appliance shall NOT operate.

Change the text to:“Check if the appliance can be operated normally It shall not be

See 4





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possible to operate the appliance”

35 DE07 21-27 22.109 te Sub clause 22.109 is not given in the current edition. Sub-clause 22.109 will be a new one.




See 4

37 NL04 21-28 22.109 te It cannot be checked by inspection only if metal is not liable to creep or deform.


38 US04 21 - 28 22.109 te A mechanical loading test should be added to determine compliance to mitigate the risk of injury due to the appliance. This loading test is intended to mimic someone hanging on the appliance, and possibly items stored on top of the appliance.

For appliances intended to be fixed to a wall or other support, the appliances shall be constructed so that they can be fixed securely to a wall or other support. Brackets and similar means shall be of metal that shall not be liable to creep or deform.Compliance is checked by inspection and by the following test.A 45 kg weight shall be suspended from the front of the appliance or the loading door. The weight and the door shall be positioned so as to produce the most severe test condition. The weight shall remain in place until ultimate results have been observed, but not longer than 5 minutes. As a result of the test , there shall be no damage to the wall, the appliance, or the mounting means, and the appliance shall not become dislodged.NOTE: Keyhole slots, hooks and similar means, without any further means to prevent the appliance from

See 4





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being inadvertently lifted off the support, are not considered to be adequate means for fixing the appliance securely.

39 DK04 25 22.109 te We propose to add an installation test to the compliance criteria, so that the fixing means can be practically tested for adequacy.


"and by an installation test in accordance with the instructions provided for installation."

See 4

40 FI04 28 22.109 te Requirements for the mechanical strength of the fixing means are not sufficient. The spinning test with wet clothes is missing. It is important to add a requirement and a test to check the mechanical strength of the fixing means during the spinning procedure with wet clothes. It is not enough that fixing means are checked only by inspection.

We propose that a spinning test with wet clothes will be added.

See 4

41 DE09 29-53 22.110 te Sub clause 22.110 is not given in the current edition. Sub-clause 22.110 will be a new one.




See 4

43 NL05 29-53 22.110 te The proposed text is about the mounting of accessories while in the rational of the proposal there is not any introduction on the mounting of accessories. It only speaks about mounting of appliances, not accessories. Not sure why this requirement is needed.Further, from the rational it is not clear






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why this hazard would only exist for class II appliances having a metal enclosure and not for class I appliances. At class I appliances screws / bolts etc penetrating into the appliance could reduce basic insulation and therefore also potentially result in electric hazards.

44 DK05 30-32 22.110 ge The text is not clear. Does it relate to the means for fixing the appliance or to means for fixing accessories to the appliance?

Additionally, it is not clear what type of accessories are in question. The words "if it is supplied by the manufacturer" in the proposed text seem to suggest that accessories can also be provided by other than the manufacturer. However, the standard cannot regulate the safety of appliances if parts or accessories provided by other than the appliance manufacturer itself are attached to or mounted on the appliance and therefore any such suggestions should be avoided.

Rephrase the requirements so that it is clearly understood and does not give rise to misunderstandings

See 4

45 DK06 42-53 22.110 te Depending on the specific mounting means in question, we do not believe that the prescribed envelope of the described 10 x 50 mm cylinder is adequate and sufficient. For example, screws may penetrate deeper than 50 mm into the appliance and may also reach areas inside the appliance that are beyond the 10 mm diameter. For example, if the head of the select screw itself is larger than 10 mm in diameter or if the screws are screwed into the wall at an angle different from 90 deg.

Instead, we believe that the construction shall simply prevent any screw or

Delete line 42-53. and add the following instead:

"Metal barriers shall be provided behind holes and openings for fixing and mounting screws or other fixing devices that prevent fixing or mounting screws or other fixing devices from coming into contact with internal wiring and live parts. Access to internal wiring and live parts shall be prevented in any direction and for any length of mounting or fixing screw."

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mounting device of any reasonable length to penetrate to areas where live parts are present.

Also, since the standard allow washing machines to be of cl. II construction it is not appropriate to specify that an earthed barrier shall be provided unless the subject types of washing machines being addressed are only allowed to be of cl. I. This would require an addition to cl. 6.1

DECISION: It was agreed to form a new ahG to develop a 2DC that reflects the comments in 61/6247/INF and that further elaborates the proposal to cover the considerations and hazards outlined in 61(2021WebSeries-I/CNNC)54, slides 7 to 13, and those discussed during the meeting. The proposal shall cover wall-mounted washing machines. The proposal is to be submitted for discussion at the first meeting of TC 61 in 2022; therefore, it should be developed by January 2022.

During the meeting the following NCs indicated they will provide experts to participate in the ahG: CN, AU, IT, MX, NZ, US. Ms. Fang Xu (CNNC) agreed to serve as convenor. TC 61 to circulate a Call for Experts for the new ahG. The AC will indicate that each NC may involve maximum 2 experts, that meetings will be held via web and will be arranged to cover various time zones around the globe.

It was noted that since the matter is considered urgent an ahG is preferred; however, it will not be possible for the ahG to submit a proposal by the cut-off date for the next TC 61 meeting in 2021 (DCs are due 25 June 2021). Therefore, the ahG will instead complete its work for the first meeting of 2022 to allow sufficient time to complete the assignment. It was confirmed by IEC CO that it is possible and in accordance with the spirit of IEC Directives.

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7b. 61/6220/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6248/INF MT23, Washing machines, clause 22Also taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT23)70


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Noted

2 TR01 ge TR does support this proposal with following comments.

Noted

3 FI01 ge The Finnish NC wishes to submit the following comment to this proposal.

Noted

4 IT01 ge The Italian NC supports the proposal but it is not sufficient for covering the remote operation function. For this reason we submit the following comments:

Noted

5 IT02 5.6 te The product shall be tested in worst condition in term of heating in normal operation. This means that the device used for remote operation shall be in active mode during the test of clauses 11(heating), 19(abnormal operation) and 22(construction) During the clause 11, the device that is used for remote operation can generate heating and consequently increase the temperature of electronics components (example transformer).During the clause 19, the device that is used for remote operation can generate hazard during and after the tests of abnormal. The behaviour of the system should be tested for avoiding hazards for the consumersDuring the clause 22, the remote operation shall be activated and tested in accordance to clause 22.51

5.6Add in the first paragraph:Remote operation shall be operated under their most unfavourable conditions of normal use during the tests of clauses 11, 19 and 22

ITNC is invited to evaluate the preparation of a specific proposal relevant to a modification of Part 1 to cover the influence of the device used for remote operation on the tests in clauses 11, 19 and 22.

6 IT03 11 te The product shall be tested in worst condition in term of heating in normal operation. This means that the device

Add the underline part in the first paragraph of clause 11.7:Appliances incorporating a

See 5





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used for remote operation shall be in active mode during the test.

programmer are operated for three cycles with the programme thatresults in highest temperature rises, with a rest period of 4 min between cycles. During the tests, the remote operation shall remain activated

7 IT04 19 te During the clause 19, the device that is used for remote operation can generate hazard during and after the tests of abnormal. The behaviour of the system should be tested for avoiding hazards for the consumers

19.1 Addition:The Appliances incorporating remote operation device shall be also tested with function activated.

See 5

8 TR02 1-11 22.51 te No need to specified time duration like 300ms. Delete the first dashed item given below.“the loss is less than 300 ms or”

“It is also necessary to reset the control in the case of a loss in the supply mains, unless:-a change in door or lid state can be determined while in this condition once the supply mains has been restored.”

Not accepted.The reasoning for 300ms is due to:

a. It is not probable that a child or pet can enter and re-close an appliance door within 300ms, such that an undetected door opening would result in risk.

b. There are existing requirements for voltage dips in IEC 61000-4-11, in which an appliance must withstand a voltage dip to 0V for 20ms.





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These short term voltage disturbances are also common in voltage distribution systems.

In order to balance consumer satisfaction (remote allowance) and not deactivate remote functions every time a very short voltage dip occurs, 300ms was chosen as a suitable solution, which still ensures consumer safety.

9 NL01 3-6 22.51 te In the way the proposal is written, no visual feedback is given that the appliance is adjusted for remote operation.NLNC believes that a visual feedback creates an awareness of the situation and is therefore beneficial in risk reduction.

Add the following sentence after the 1st

sentence:

There shall be a visual indication on the appliance showing that the appliance is adjusted for remote operation.

Not Accepted. It was considered that for washing machines there will not be specific additional risks introduced when the appliance is operated remotely.

10 US01 3 – 11 22.51 N/A te Agree in principle with the proposal, though additional requirements are needed to mitigate the risks mentioned in the proposal.

Also requirements are needed to indicate those type of operations that do not require activation of the manual controls.

For appliances with a door opening having a dimension exceeding 200 mm and a drum having a volume exceeding 60 dm3, a control on the appliance shall be manually adjusted to the setting for remote operation before the appliance can be operated in this mode. This control shall be reset if the appliance door or lid has

Accepted with the following wording:For appliances with a door opening having a dimension exceeding 200 mm and a drum having a volume exceeding 60 dm3, a control on





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been opened.

Remote communication not involving the automatic starting, restarting or remote starting of a delayed cycle, of the appliance does not require a control on the appliance to be manually adjusted for remote operation . Examples of this type of remote user functionality are:

a) reading the appliance's status information;

b) cancelling or pausing an operating cycle; or

c) changing the appliance's user configurable settings (e.g. cycle temperature).

It is also necessary to reset the control in the case of a loss in the supply mains, unless:

- the loss is less than 300 ms or,

- a change in door or lid state can be determined while in this condition once the supply main has been restored.

A separate action distinct from closing the door is necessary for the user to re-initiate the delayed start or remote operation cycle.The door lock or door interlock shall be actuated when the appliance is set for remote operation by the user.

Compliance is checked by inspection and, if necessary, by an appropriate test.

If compliance relies on the operation of an electronic circuit , the test is

the appliance shall be manually adjusted to the setting for remote operation before the appliance can be operated in this mode. The remote operation mode shall be deactivated automatically when the appliance door or lid has been opened.

Remote operation not involving the automatic starting, restarting or remote starting of a delayed cycle, of the appliance does not require a control on the appliance to be manually adjusted for remote operation . Examples of this type of remote user functionality are:

a) cancelling or pausing an operating cycle; or

b) changing the appliance's user configurable settings (e.g. cycle temperature).





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repeated under the following conditions applied separately:

- the fault conditions in a) to g) of 19.11.2 applied one at a time to the electronic circuit ;

- the electromagnetic phenomena tests of 19.11.4.2 and 19.11.4.5 applied to the appliance.

If programmable electronic circuits are used to ensure compliance, the software shall contain measures to control the fault/error conditions specified in Annex R.

[As a result of the above, add 22.51 to R.2.2.5 and R.2.2.9]

The remote operation mode shall be deactivated automatically in the case of a loss in the supply mains, unless:



A separate manual action distinct from closing the door is necessary for the user to re-initiate the remote operation cycle.The door lock or door interlock shall be actuated when the appliance is set for remote operation by the user.

Compliance is checked by inspection and, if necessary, by an appropriate test.

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repeated under the following conditions applied separately:

– the fault conditions in a) to g) of 19.11.2 are applied one at a time to the electroniccircuit;

– the electromagnetic phenomena tests of 19.11.4.2 and 19.11.4.5 are applied to theappliance.The appliance shall not enter the mode of remote operation.

If programmable electronic circuits are used to ensure compliance, the software shall contain measures to control the fault/error conditions specified in Table R.1 and is evaluated in accordance with the relevant requirements of Annex R.

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R.2.2.5 and R.2.2.9]

11 CI/ANEC 01

5 - 7 22.51 te The requirement to manually reset the control for remote operation needs to be consistently applied throughout the clause

Insert “manually” where shown:

“…This control shall be manually reset if the appliance door has been opened…

It is also necessary the manually reset the control in the case of a loss in the supply mains…”

See 10

12 NL02 5-6 22.51 ed Editorial improvement. Delete the word ‘be’ in the second sentence of the first paragraph of the addition:

This control shall be reset if the appliance door or lid has been opened.

See 10

13 NL03 7 22.51 ed Editorial improvement. Replace the words:

‘It is also necessary to reset the control’

By:‘The control shall also reset’

See 10

14 NL04 7-10 22.51 te/ed The setting for remote operation shall also be reset if the appliance is switched to standby of off mode unless the appliance

Replace the words:

‘It is also necessary to reset the control’

By: ‘The control shall also reset’

Replace the word ‘determined’ by ‘detected’.Plus several other editorial improvements.

Replace lines 7- 10 by:

It is also necessary to reset the control in the case of:

-the appliance being switched to standby or off mode, unless the appliance will detect a change in door or lid state occurring while in the off of standby mode.- a loss in the supply mains lasting more than 300 ms, unless the appliance will detect a change in door or lid state occurring during the mains supply loss.

Not accepted.Remote operation does not apply in Off mode, and for standby mode, the proposal NL05 already addresses this as standby states must be tested as part of 19.11.4.

15 AU01 te Line 8 allows up to 300ms loss of power, this could cause a microprocessors or

Delete line 8 Not Accepted, See





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controls to go in to an unknown state. 8.

16 CI/ANEC 02

9 22.51 te The wording/intent of this is unclear and could give rise to an unintended safety hazard.

Rewrite or delete this dashed item See 10

17 FI02 9-10 22.51 2nd dash ed The following text is unclear: - a change in door or lid state can

be determined while in this condition once the supply mains has been restored.

We propose to clarify the text.

We propose that the text will be modified as follows:a change in door or lid state can be determined during loss of mains once the supply mains has been restored.

See 10

18 NL05 11 22.51 te In order to provide the same level of safety (with regard to children and pets) for appliances that are started by remote operation (smart phone app) as for starting appliance locally the requirements from 22.51 have to be aligned to 20.106 with regard to reliability and resistance to EM disturbances.Since there is no control on the reliability of the external device (e.g. smart phone, app) used to start the appliance while in remote operation, the control that enables remote operation (after the door has been opened) shall be sufficiently reliable and resistant to EM disturbances to make sure the appliance cannot be remotely started while a child may have entered the appliance.

Add the following new paragraph after line 11:

If compliance relies on the operation of an electronic circuit, the test is repeated under the following conditions applied separately:


– the electromagnetic phenomena tests of 19.11.4.2 and 19.11.4.5 are applied to theappliance.The appliance shall not enter the mode of remote operation.

See 10

DECISION: Secretariat to prepare a 2DC that considers the comment compilation and discussion from the meeting. The 2DC will be submitted by 25 June 2021 to enable it to be on the agenda for the Web Meeting Series II in 2021.

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8. IEC 60335-2-8: Particular requirements for shavers, hair clippers and similar appliances 61/6194/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6249/INF Germany, SELV Cord length requirements The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6249A/INF




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1 DE01 ge We agree with this proposal. Noted

2 FI01 ge The Finnish NC is in favour of this proposal but wishes to submit the following comment on it.

Noted


Noted


Noted

5 NL01 1-5 25.23 te The proposed modification makes all requirements not applicable for interconnection cords for parts of class III construction while e.g. conductor diameter is also relevant for class III parts.

Replace the proposal by the following:

25.23 Addition:The requirements with regard to supply cord length as specified in 25.7 do not apply for interconnection cords of appliance parts of class III construction.

See 8

6 FI02 3 25.23 te/ed We propose to introduce this requirement to subclause 25.7 instead of subclause 25.23.

We propose to replace subclause 25.23 by 25.7.

See 8

7 DK01 4-5 25.23 te If an interconnection cord is used between a plug-in type of power supply and the functional part of the appliance (the shaver or clipper), then there is no logical reason to deviate from the length requirement for that interconnection cord. This length a cord allows for a reasonable distance between the socket outlet and the appliance, so that the appliance can be used safely and conveniently at a reasonable distance away from the socket






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outlet.This need and concern is irrespective of the voltage within the interconnection cord being mains voltage or SELV

8 US01 4-5 25.23 te An appliance that can be used while connected to a detachable power supply part with pins for insertion into a socket outlet should have adequate interconnecting cord between the supply part and the appliance to allow the product to be used without an extension cord.

For appliances that cannot be operated while connected via the interconnecting cord, the cord length does not need to meet the 1,7 m minimum length.

Replace lines 4-5:

For interconnection cords for parts of class III construction that are charged by connection to a detachable power supply part, interconnection cords are not required to comply with the requirements for supply cords. If the appliance can only perform its intended function when connected to the detachable power supply part, the interconnecting cord length shall comply with 25.7.

Accepted, with the modification to remove “only” in the second sentence.

DECISION: Proceed to CDV for next edition and to be aligned with IEC 60335-1 ED6

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9. IEC 60335-2-9: Particular requirements for grills, toasters and similar portable cooking appliances 61/6195/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6250/INF Australia, VariousThe results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6250A/INF




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1 FI01 ge The Finnish NC wishes to submit the following comment on this document.

Noted





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Noted

3 FR01 te The “foreseeable” aspect is not sufficient to consider that a situation needs to be covered by the standard. To some extent, a lot of situation are “foreseeable”, it is just a question of imagination.Toasters and contact grills are appliances that need to be monitored by users and it is unlikely that a user we leave a toaster under a roller cupboard door with the lever held in position or the cord caught between the heated plate of a contact grill.

Delete proposal Not accepted

4 NL01 ge NLNC does not agree with rational a) see comment NL02.NLNC does not consider it foreseeable that a supply cord is being caught between the heated plates. However, NLNC can accept the proposal not to allow PVC sheathed cord as contact grill have hot sections other than the heated plates.

Noted

5 DE01 1-2 7.12 te Unearthed sockets, into which earthed plugs can be put, are common in many countries. The pictures below show examples from Spain and from Russia. Therefore, the fourth dashed item in paragraph 3 of 7.12 is relevant.


6 FI02 1-2 7.12 te The Finnish NC does not accept the proposal concerning subclause 7.12. This warning is a safety aspect. In our country it is possible to connect plug with earthing contacts (plug for class I appliance) to socket-outlet having no earthing contacts (socket-outlet for class 0 appliance.).

Delete this proposal concerning subclause 7.12 and remain this subclause unchanged.

See 5

7 NL02 2 7.12 te For class I appliances it is vital that they are connected to an appropriate socket

Delete line 2 See 5





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outlet.There are still enough countries using plug/socket-outlet systems that allow the use of an earthed plug with an unearthed socket outlet.That is why NLNC is not in favour deleting the 4th dashed item in the 3rd paragraph of the addition to 7.12.

8 NO01 1-2 7.12 te As there are countries where a class I appliance may be connected to a socket outlet without an earthing contact (ref. rationale), we propose to keep this requirement.


9 SA01 2 7 Marking and instructions

Paragraph 1

a) In the majority of countries, a class I appliance cannot be connected to a socket-outlet without an earthing contact because of the configuration of the plug so the fourth dashed item in para 3 of 7.12 is irrelevant.

7.12 In the third paragraph, delete the fourth dashed item

Disagree with this change See 5

10 SE01 2 7.12 te Rationale given in in a) is not correct for schuko type plugs and socket outlets.

Delete line 2 See 5

11 GB01 22.113 te The British National Committee sees no reason to make a change to the present requirement. There is already a requirement in the test of clause 19.102:“The ejector mechanism is prevented from releasing and the supply is maintained to the heating elements after the timer has completed its cycle. The test is terminated after any fire has extinguished,...”

Reject the proposal. Not accepted

12 IT01 3-24 22.113 te The Italian NC does not support the proposed modification to clause 22.113.

Delete lines from 3 to 24. Not accepted





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The reasons are the following:

1) The possibility that an external object (i.e. a cupboard door) could interfere with the movement of the lever of the bread carriage seems quite unlikely 2) Even if we assumed that this unfortunate event could take place, the user would be immediately able to recognize the dangerous situation and take the proper actions as the blockage due to an external cause will be much more evident than the blockage due to a piece of bread blocked inside the toasting chamber which is covered by the standard.

13 NO02 3-24 22.113 te This topic was also discussed in Seattle in 2010. It was decided that the kind of blocking this sub-clause is supposed to cover is blocking “by the bread”, and based on this discussion the A1:2012 to 60335-2-9 ed. 6 introduced the following: “Toasters having an ejector mechanism shall be constructed so that they switch off automatically after the normal toasting time even if the ejector mechanism is blocked by the bread.”

As we cannot see any information about or are not aware of reported incidents from the market, we do not see any reason to change this requirement.

Delete the proposal. Not accepted

14 DE02 8-11, 19-24

22.113 te Since the lever is operated immediately before toasting, it is very unlikely that it is permanently held in ON position by an external object. Where shall it suddenly come from? And should it happen, the user would remove it because toasters






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are considered attended during operation.

In case of operation in a kitchen enclosure, it is very unlikely that a roller door will press down the lever without being noticed by the user, for the user cannot close the door and therefore he will remove the obstacle.

Further, subclause 7.12 reminds the user to keep the toaster away from combustible materials, which is also applicable when used in a kitchen enclosure.The residual risk is covered by subclause 19.102.

15 JP01 8-1119-24

22.113 te We do not support the proposal for the following reason.

The existing requirement is based on a case where the toaster is switched on with the bread blocking the mechanism in the toaster, and the bread would burn.

However, the proposal is based a case where the toaster is switched on with the bread not being in the toaster.

These conditions have different risk levels in different conditions, each other.


16 US01 9-11 22.113 te The test should be conducted regardless of whether the lever is recessed so that it cannot be held down by a vertical rolling door

Delete lines 9-11 Not accepted

17 DE03 26-27 25.7 te There is a contradiction between letter c of the rationale and the proposal in line 27, so it is not clear what the proposal shall be. It is, however, absolutely not obvious that the cord of a contact grill will get caught between the heated plates.






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The Australian NC is invited to provide evidence for this statement, otherwise there is no reason for a further regulation of the nature of the cord.

18 US02 25-27 25.7 te This revision is not supported. The grill plates are known to be hot and it would be expected that the user will keep the cord from contacting the grill plates during use, not only to prevent damage to the cord but also to prevent contamination of the food being cooked. It is also hard to believe that if this were to occur, that the user would not notice it, as suggested in the Rationale, since the cord would be visibly entering and leaving the grill surface area.


19 DK01 27 25.7 ed It is preferred to use the same specific words as in IEC 60335-1 and avoid abbreviations that are not used in IEC 60335-1. Therefor the abbreviation "PVC" is not appropriate.

Replace "PVC" with "Polyvinyl chloride" so that line 27 reads:"Supply cords for contact grills shall not be polyvinyl chloride sheathed."

See 20

20 JP02 27 25.7 te We do not support the proposal, which is not necessary, for the following reason.

PVC sheathed cords are prohibited by Part 1 when they are likely to touch metal enclosures exceeding 75 K under Clause 11, but it does not intend a case where a contact grill catch the cord between the heated plates.


21 SE02 27 25.7 ed For clarification add code designation for PVC sheathed cord

Add “ code designation 60227 IEC 52 or 53” at the end of the line.

See 20

DECISION: Proceed to CDV for next edition, and to be aligned with 60335-1 ED6

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10. IEC 60335-2-10: Particular requirements for floor treatment machines and wet scrubbing machines 10a. 61/6155/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6297/RVC New EditionThe results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6297A/RVC




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Noted

2 DE01 ge DE-NC supports this document and cast a positive vote

Noted

3 DE02 ge If proposal 61/6196/DC gets acceptance by TC61, it is recommended to combine the outcome of 61/6155/CDV and 61/6196/DC in one single document. Otherwise, Edition 6.1 of IEC 60335-2-10 would be initiated at an too early stage.

Combine the outcome of 61/6155/CDV and 61/6196/DC in one single document

Accepted

4 AU01 ed In the forward, It is not clear what edition to use if the latest edition of part 1 precludes use of older part twos.

Suggest to add the following words for clarity

This part 2 is to be used in conjunction with the latest edition of IEC 60335-1 and its amendments unless that edition precludes it; in that case, the latest edition that does not preclude it is used. It was established on the basis of the sixth edition (2020) of that standard.

Accepted; referred to EG1 for editorial review.

5 CH02 110, 148, 152, 175, 177, 179, 181, 190, 192, 194, 196, 216,

1 to 32 ed Missing numbering. Add numbering (1 to 32) to headline of clauses.

Accepted





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218, 220, 222, 234, 236, 238, 240, 247, 261, 263, 286, 288, 290, 292, 294, 296, 298, 303, 306, 308

6 DE03 110,148, 152,175, 177,179, 181,190, 192,194, 196,216, 218,220, 234,236, 238,240, 247,261,

1-32 ed All clause numbers are missing Add the corresponding numbers 1- 32 See 5





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263,286,288,290, 292,294,296,298,303,306,308

7 JP01 ed All the main-clause numbers are missing. See 5

8 NL01 110148152

Etc.

All Title ed No title number Add title number:1 General requirements2 General conditions for the tests3 Classification

Etc.

See 5

9 US01 Various Various ed The Clause numbers are missing throughout the document

Add Clause numbers before Clause titles

See 5

10 DK01 114 Scope te The scope replaces the scope in the part 1. Therefore DC-supplied and battery-operated appliances are excluded from the scope.

As some appliances within the scope of this standard are likely to be DC or battery operated it is appropriate to clarify this in the scope by including the wording used in the part 1.

Add in the end of the first paragraph:

including direct current (DC) supplied appliances and battery-operated appliances.

Accepted as editorial clarification.

11 CH03 116, 117, 118, 120, 121, 122, 136, 138, 142, 143,

1, 22.101 ed Wrong formatting (two dashes in a line). Correct formatting (delete one dash). See 14





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144, 146, 147, 269, 270

12 DE04 116-118, 120-122,136, 138, 142-144, 146, 147

1 ed Typos – two dashes per entry used Delete one of the two dashed items See 14

13 DK02 116-122 Scope ed The list of examples of appliances covered by this standard is using two dashes for each item

Delete the first dash in lines 116, 117, 118, 120, 121 and 122 as well as in lines 136, 138, 142, 143, 144, 146 and 147

See 14

14 US02 116-122 136-147 269-270

1, 22.101 ed Double dash Remove extra dash Accepted

15 DE05 160 3.1.9, Note to entry

ed In part, there is already a "Note 1 to entry" Renumber "Note 1 to entry" to "Note 101 to entry"

Accepted

16 DK03 198-205 11.7 te Since this part of the proposal is a replacement of 11.7 in the part 1, it does not provide for an appropriate implementation of the heating test for battery operated appliances while integral or separable batteries are being charged in the appliance.

It is assumed that the conditions specified in the part-1 are appropriate and suitable also for appliances in the scope of this standard and therefor the requirement from the part-1 can be included directly.

Add the following after line 209:

"For appliances incorporating integral batteries or separable batteries not disconnected from the appliance for charging purposes:– the battery that has been fully discharged is charged for 1 h, while the appliance is operated performing its intended function, if allowed by the construction of the appliance;– the battery that has been fully discharged is charged, for a duration of 24 h or until it is fully charged whichever is shorter, without the

Accepted with modification to line 206:

11.7 Addition:





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battery-operated appliance performing its intended function."

17 CI/ANEC 01

Table 101 ed Row 3: Metal is misspelt Replace “Meta” with “Metal” See 21

18 CI/ANEC 02

te Column headedSurfaces of portable appliances situated on the floor Is missing hand-held appliances.It can be seen from Table 3 of pt1 that surfaces of handles and grips require significantly lower surface temperature

Reword heading as “Surfaces of hand-held appliances and portable appliances situated on the floor”

Not accepted. Per Note 101 of Table 101, the limits for “Surfaces of handles, knobs, grips and similar parts which are continuously held in normal use” in Table 3 are still applicable for hand-held appliances or hand-held parts of appliances.

19 CI/ANEC 03

te Column headed Surfaces of hand-held appliances and other appliances uses temperatures for Category W (appliances on worktops) so should just apply to the remaining appliances

Reword heading as “Surfaces of other appliances”

Not accepted; see 18

20 CH04 215 11.8 Table 101 ed Like in other Parts 2 improve clarity of headline by adding “limits” after “rise”.

ReplaceTemperature rise of external

accessible surfaces a

withTemperature rise limits of external


Not accepted.The title is consistent with other Part 2 standards and with the format of Tables 3 and 9.

21 CH05 215 11.8 Table 101 ed In the second row of column “Surface” the last letter (l) of “metal” is formatted as superscript, hence wrong.

Correct format of last letter (l) of “metal”.

Accepted

22 DE06 215 11.8 Table 101, ed Formatting error: "l" belongs to "metal", Replace "coated metalb" by "coated See 21





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left column, entry "coated metal"

not to the ID of the footnote metalb"

23 US03 215 Table 101 ed Typo metalb See 21

24 DE07 269, 270

22.101 ed Typos – two dashes per entry used Delete one of the two dashed items See 14

25 CH06 331 Bibliography

ed Wrong format of headline. Format “Bibliography” as bold and centered headline.

Accepted

26 DE08 331 Bibliography

ed Formatting error Print "Bibliography" bold and centered See 25

27 DE09 336 Bibliography

ed Entry for ISO 13732-1 is missing, but the standard reference is still mentioned in Note 2 of the Introduction

Reinstate the entry Not accepted.However, align Note 2 in the Introduction with Part 1

DECISION: Proceed to FDIS for sixth edition. FDIS to also include the proposal covered by 61/6196/DC and 61/6251/INF; EG1 to align editorially. For all FDIS where there was no confirmation at the CDV stage regarding the In Some Countries notes, a Note of the Secretary will be included to draw NCs to identify any In Some Countries notes needing to be retained in the next edition.

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1 DE01 ge DE-NC supports this document Noted


DECISION: Proposal accepted to be incorporated in the FDIS to be developed from 61/6155/CDV and 61/6297/RVC, agenda item 10a.

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11. IEC 60335-2-11: Particular requirements for tumble dryers 11a. 61/6197/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6252/INF Australia, Marking and instructionsThe results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6252A/INF




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1 DE01 ge The DE-NC supports the proposal partially.

Noted

2 CH01 ge The CH NC regrets to reject this proposal with the following comment(s).

Noted

3 IT01 ge The Italian NC does not support the proposal for the following reasons.


4 PL01 ge PL NC is against the proposal due to following reasons:

See 8

5 TR01 ge TR NC does not support the proposal with the following comments.

See 8

6 CH02 ge The rationale contains too less information like number of fires, root causes and similar, so the CH NC is not able to judge this proposal properly.

Withdraw or delete 61/6197/DC, improve rationale and submit a 2DC.

See 8

7 FR01 ge The rationale does not give a relevant cause for the risk of fire ignition in the TD product. The proposal does not prevent or reduce the risk of fire.


8 GB01 te The issues proposed to be addressed in this document are both ones which form part of the discussions in IEC TC 61 WG47: Fires in tumble dryers. The British National Committee believes that these

Refer to IEC TC 61 WG47: Fires in tumble dryers

The DC is referred to WG 47 to evaluate the proposal and comments in





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issues need further consideration by WG47 in order to find a comprehensive solution.

61/6252/INF, in particular the warning in 7.6 and instruction proposed in 7.12. AUNC is invited to nominate an expert to participate in WG47.The TC did not support the proposal to add the symbol ISO 7010 W021. Eventually WG47 will evaluate if a specific symbol is needed.

9 IT02 ge The symbol ISO 7010 W021 is used in the case of flammable gas or material. The symbol has been used in IEC 60335-2-24 and IEC 60335-2-40 due to refrigerant usage in the cooling system. The symbol, Warning and instruction will not reduce the hazard caused by the lint filter/trap. The WG47 is working for improving the standard 2-11. The draft shall be discussed inside the WG47.


10 NL01 ge Rationale does not indicate what is the root cause of the fires, hence it is difficult to judge if instructions are sufficient.

See 8

11 PL02 ge WG47 has been addressing fire risks in tumble dryers by developing new requirements and tests procedures that will bring the real increase of the product safety level. We believe that these efforts will bring more convenience for users than adding proposed text in the instructions or warning symbol.






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12 SE01 te The Swedish NC does not support the proposal.The rationale explained by the AU NC is that efforts currently in the standard are not enough for reducing fire hazards in tumble dryers.

The suggested measures are, from our point of view, not in proportion to the hazard. Especially since a similar symbol is used for marking tumble dryers containing a flammable refrigerant. For the purpose of highlighting flammable refrigerants the marking shall be at least 15mm high. The suggestion of having a risk of fire symbol visible all the time on installed tumble dryers and in such relatively large size, 50mm in base, is not at all in proportion to the hazard.

We are aware that this issue is of big importance in AU/NZ since it has been a part of the local modification since many years. However, the use of warnings and symbols and the interpretation thereof vary a lot globally, Swedish consumers and users would probably consider the entire appliance to be hazardous if marked as suggested


13 TR08 ge There is a specific working group under TC 61 who deals with the fire hazards in tumble dryers. AU NC experts to bring the hazard risks and relevant proposals to WG47 studies to be further discussed, if needed.


14 CI/ANEC

4 7.1 te We agree with the need for this warning but believe the wording should be made

Change “WARNING: Regularly clean the lint trap”

See 8





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01 clearer to “WARNING: Frequently clean the lint trap”

15 DE02 2-4 7.1 te The DE-NC has doubts if the proposed marking really will help to reduce fires. The subject concerning the filter cleaning is not being called into question. We think the current text of the standard with its reference to read the instructions will be sufficient.It should be noted that also other subjects are important to be considered concerning the risk to fires. These are also being addressed in the instruction.

Delete the proposed text. See 8

16 JP01 2-421-2325

7.17.147.15

te We do not support the proposal because similar warning is already required in 7.12 of the existing Part 2-11, as shown below.

7.12 Addition:The instructions shall state– …..– …..– that the lint trap has to be cleaned frequently, if applicable;


17 DE03 3-4 7.1 te If the subject “WARNING: Regularly clean the lint trap“ according DE 02 will not supported, the DE-NC proposes the following as an alternative. It should be noted that a text as proposed by the AU-NC shall also be covered by sub-clause 7.13. Covering this, a huge summary of national text will be necessary for products will be sold globally. This will be a huge burden. Instead of the proposed text the graphic symbol 5575 according to IEC 60417 should be used and according explained.See also DE 05, DE 06 and DE 09.

Replace the text by the following:

The appliance shall be marked with symbol IEC 60417-5575

See 8





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18 DK02 4 7.1 te The intent of this warning marking is supported. However according to cl. 7.13 this proposed warning marking need to be translated to local languages. This is not feasible and therefor a warning marking as text cannot be supported

Delete the proposed text and replace it with a suitable pictogram.

As a consequence, corresponding modifications to line 21 are also needed

See 8

19 FR02 4 7.1 te “Regularly clean the lint trap” This statement is one of those required in the instruction manual by 7.12. We do not think that putting as warning on the appliance will reduce the risk. Stopping the air circulation is also an abnormal condition covered by 19.101.


20 CN01 5-7 7.6 te CN NC could comprehend the intension to avoid fire hazard by adding more warnings and instructions to guide the right use and maintaining of dryers. But CN NC does not support adding the warning symbol of 7010 W021 for the following reasons:1. Fire hazard has been evaluated thoroughly regarding marks and instructions (Clause 7), heat production (Clause 11), abnormal use (Clause 19), and construction (Clause 22). Such warning symbol cannot further reduce fire risks but only increase unnecessary fear.2. Considering there is no such symbol requirements to other appliances which consider much on fire hazards like cooking appliances （60335-2-6）， irons （60335-2-3）， burning appliances （60335-2-102）, adding such warning symbol is not the way to avoid fire hazards.

Delete line 5 to line 7 of the proposal See 8

21 DE04 5 7.1 te The DE-NC is of the opinion that the Replace the proposed text by See 8





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symbol ISO 7010 W021 shall be attached on appliances only where a relevant risk of spontaneous self-ignition and combustion is given. Such a risk is not given on every type of appliances according to IEC 60335-2-11. Our experience shows that such a risk is only given to vented type appliances and not to condensation-type tumble dryer. This is based on the physics that the drum of condensation-type tumble dryer is airtight, and no air exchange will be possible to support fire generation.

Except condensation-type tumble dryers all appliances shall be marked with symbol ISO 7010 W021.This requirement is not applicable on condensation-type tumble dryers

22 FR03 5 7.1 te The symbol “ISO 7010 W021” is not appropriate. This symbol is used when product contains “Flammable material”.


23 DK01 5-19 7.1; 7.12 te The DK NC is not aware of situations where spontaneous ignition of the clothes load has occurred and led to subsequent fires. Therefor we do not immediately recognize this to be a problem.In addition we would like to point to the requirement in cl. 22.105 mandating a cool down period to reduce this risk.

If the risk of fires resulting from spontaneous ignition of clothes that have been exposed to ordinary household products such as cooking oils and hair care products is significant however, this is a problem that cannot be solved by warning markings and instructions in the manual. Instead following the principle of safety integration, this risk must be mitigated via constructional measures.

We point to WG47 for a continued risk analysis and development of corresponding requirements if needed.

Delete line 5-19 of the proposal

As a consequence, also lines 23 and 26 must be deleted

See 8





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24 JP02 6792326

7.17.67.127.147.15

te We do not support the proposal for the following reasons.

- For appliances that use flammable refrigerants, Clause AA.7.1 of the existing Part 2-11 already requires Warning symbol ISO 7010-W021. Appliances without flammable refrigerants do not need the symbol.

- The same symbol should not be used for the different reasons. It may raise confusion in the market.


25 DE05 6-7 7.6 te With reference to DE 03 Add the following:

Symbol IEC 60417-5575 Filter cleaning

See 8

26 DK03 7 7.6 te If DK01 is not accepted:The proposed symbol (ISO 7010 W021) is already mandated (by annex AA) to be used on heat pump tumbler dryers using flammable refrigerants but for a somewhat different purpose. Therefor introducing the same symbol for all tumbler dryers may cause confusions and will prevent the intent of this marking when flammable refrigerants are used.

Alternatively, it may be considered to only propose the symbol for non-heat pump dryers. Heat-pump dryers also operate at lower drying temperatures which would also help reducing the risk of spontaneous ignition.

Delete line 7 of the proposal. See 8

27 PL03 7 7.6 te The meaning of the symbol ISO 7010 W021 is referring to warn of flammable material inside the appliance like, for example, flammable refrigerant in






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refrigeration appliances. Not all tumble dryers contain such materials, therefore it’s not needed to mark all of them.Additionally, the clause AA.7.6 in Annex AA of IEC 60335-2-11 already requires the flame symbol for dryers that use flammable refrigerants.

28 TR02 7 7.6 te The meaning of the symbol ISO 7010 W021 is referring to warn of flammable material. Accordingly, the necessity of such warning is reasonable in case of existence the flammable materials posing a fire risk by the nature of the appliance (e.g. IEC 60335-2-24, IEC 60335-2-40 due to refrigerant usage in cooling appliances). With this manner, we don’t see any deviation for tumble dryers than the majority of other part 2s.The clause AA.7.6 in Annex AA of IEC 60335-2-11 already requires the flame symbol for dryers that use flammable refrigerants.


29 DE06 8-9 7.12 te With reference to DE 03 Add to 7.12 After the second paragraph, insert the following:The meaning of symbol IEC 60417-5575 shall be explained.

See 8

30 PL04 8-9 7.12 te As a consequence of the PL02 comment these text is redundant.


31 TR03 8-9 7.12 te In conjunction with the comment TR02 there is no need to add this statement.


32 CN02 9 7.12 te See CN1 Delete line 9 of the proposal See 8

33 DK04 9 7.12 te The DK NC believe that the explanatory text would also cause confusions with the explanatory text already required when

Delete line 9 of the proposal See 8





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the symbol is used for heat pump dryers using flammable refrigerants.

34 DE07 10-19 7.12 te The DE-NC supports the proposal See 8

35 FR04 11 - 18 7.12 te The existing instructions :“- Do not dry unwashed items in the tumble dryer.”“- Items that have been soiled with substances such as cooking oil, acetone, alcohol, petrol, kerosene, spot removers, turpentine, waxes and wax removers should be washed in hot water with an extra amount of detergent before being dried in the tumble dryer.”

are addressing this subject and are clear enough


36 JP03 10-18 7.12 te We do not support the proposal because similar warnings are already required in 7.12 of the existing Part 2-11, as shown below.

The instructions shall include the substance of the following.- Do not dry unwashed items in the tumble

dryer.- Items that have been soiled with

substances such as cooking oil, acetone, alcohol, petrol, kerosene, spot removers, turpentine, waxes and wax removers should be washed in hot water with an extra amount of detergent before being dried in the tumble dryer.


37 PL05 11-15 7.12 te The proposed text might be fuzzy for a regular user and can create only confusion. Moreover this text will not bring additional safety level in the reality.


38 TR04 11-15 7.12 te The proposed statement is not giving the actual instruction to the user and the user






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cannot understand what is suggested to be done. In addition, second dashed item of the third paragraph in current standard already provides adequate instruction for drying oil-affected fabrics.We are in the opinion that the proposal does not give any additional value to the existing requirements in cl 7.12.

39 CI/ANEC02

12 7.12 ed Word missing Insert “a” in “as in a tumble dryer.” See 8

40 CI/ANEC03

13 7.12 ed Changes to wording proposed to aid clarity

“Oxidation t hen creates more heat. See 8

41 CI/ANEC 04

16-18 ed Changes to wording proposed to aid clarity

If it is unavoidable that fabrics that contain contaminated with vegetable or cooking oil or have been contaminated by hair care products be placed in a tumble dryer, they should first be washed in hot water with extra detergent - this will reduce, but not eliminate, the hazard.

See 8

42 NL02 16-17 7.12 ed Editorial. Delete the words ‘If it is unavoidable that’.Replace “be” by “are”

So that the sentence becomes:If it is unavoidable that fabrics that contain vegetable or cooking oil or have been contaminated by hair care products be are placed in a tumble dryer they should first be washed in hot water with extra detergent - this will reduce, but not eliminate, the

See 8





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hazard.

43 PL06 16-18 7.12 te Similar warning about oil-affected fabrics is already required by the existing requirements in cl 7.12.


44 TR05 16-18 7.12 te The second dashed item of the third paragraph in current standard already provides adequate instruction for drying oil-affected fabrics.We are in the opinion that the proposal does not give any additional value to the existing requirements in cl 7.12.


45 DE09 20-23 7.14 te With reference to DE 03 Add to the published text of IEC 60335-2-11 ed 8.0 in clause 7.14 after …” symbol ISO 7000-0790 (2004-01)…” .. and symbol IEC 60417-5575

See 8

46 DE08 21-22 7.14 te With reference to DE 02 Delete the proposed text. See 8


48 PL07 23 7.14 te As a consequence of the PL02 comment this text is redundant.


49 TR06 23 7.14 te In conjunction with the comment TR02 there is no need to add this statement.



51 DE10 26 7.15 te With reference to DE 04 Replace the proposed text by:Symbol ISO 7010 W021 shall be attached to appliances except condensation-type tumble dryers and shall be readily visible when the appliance is installed as in normal use.

See 8

52 PL08 26 7.15 te As a consequence of the PL02 comment this text is redundant.


53 TR07 26 7.15 te In conjunction with the comment TR02 there is no need to add this statement.



DECISION: The DC is referred to WG 47 to evaluate the proposal and comments in 61/6252/INF, in particular the warning in 7.6 and instruction proposed in 7.12. AUNC is invited to nominate an expert to participate in WG47. The TC did not support the proposal to add the symbol ISO 7010 W021. Eventually WG47 will evaluate if a specific symbol is needed.

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Noted


Noted

3 IT01 ge The Italian NC supports the proposal but it is not sufficient for covering the remote operation function. For this reason we submit the following comments:

Noted

4 IT02 5.6 te The product shall be tested in worst condition in term of heating in normal operation. This means that the device used for remote operation shall be in active mode during the test of clauses 11(heating), 19(abnormal operation) and 22(construction).During the clause 11, the device that is used for remote operation can generate heating and consequently increase the temperature of electronics components (example transformer).During the clause 19, the device that is used for remote operation can generate

5.6Add in the first paragraph:Remote operation shall be operated under their most unfavourable conditions of normal use during the tests of clauses 11, 19 and 22

ITNC is invited to evaluate the preparation of a specific proposal relevant to a modification of Part 1 to cover the influence of the device used for remote operation on the tests in clauses 11, 19 and 22.





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hazard during and after the tests of abnormal. The behaviour of the system should be tested for avoiding hazards for the consumersDuring the clause 22, the remote operation shall be activated and tested in accordance to clause 22.51

5 IT03 11 te The product shall be tested in worst condition in term of heating in normal operation. This means that the device used for remote operation shall be in active mode during the test.

Add the underline sentence in the first paragraph of clause 11.7:Appliances incorporating a timer, a humidity sensing control or other time-limiting control are operated in cycles. Each cycle comprises an operating period having a duration equal to the maximum time that can be provided by the control and a rest period of 4 min during which the appliance is reloaded. During the tests, the remote operation shall remain activated.

See 4

6 IT04 19 te During the clause 19, the device that is used for remote operation can generate hazard during and after the tests of abnormal. The behaviour of the system should be tested for avoiding hazards for the consumers

19.1 Addition:The Appliances incorporating remote operation device shall be also tested with the function activated.

See 4

7 NL01 3-6 22.51 te In the way the proposal is written, no visual feedback is given that the appliance is adjusted for remote operation.NLNC believes that a visual feedback creates an awareness of the situation and is therefore beneficial in risk reduction.

Add the following sentence after the 1st

sentence:

There shall be a visual indication on the appliance showing that the appliance is adjusted for remote operation.

Not Accepted. It was considered that for tumble dryers there will not be specific additional risks introduced when the appliance is operated remotely.

8 US01 3 – 11 22.51 N/A te Agree in principle with the proposal, though additional requirements are needed to mitigate the risks mentioned in the proposal.

For appliances with a door opening having a dimension exceeding 200 mm and a drum having a volume exceeding 60 dm3, a control on the appliance shall be manually adjusted

Accepted with the following wording:For appliances with a door opening





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Also requirements are needed to indicate those type of operations that do not require activation of the manual controls.

to the setting for remote operation before the appliance can be operated in this mode. This control shall be reset if the appliance door or lid has been opened.

Remote communication not involving the automatic starting, restarting or remote starting of a delayed cycle, of the appliance does not require a control on the appliance to be manually adjusted for remote operation . Examples of this type of remote user functionality are:

a) reading the appliance's status information;b) cancelling or pausing an operating cycle; orc) changing the appliance's user configurable settings (e.g. cycle temperature). It is also necessary to reset the control in the case of a loss in the supply mains, unless:

- the loss is less than 300 ms or,- a change in door or lid state can be determined while in this condition once the supply main has been restored.

A separate action distinct from closing the door is necessary for the user to re-initiate the delayed start or remote operation cycle.

The door lock or door interlock shall be actuated when the appliance is set for remote operation by the user.

Compliance is checked by inspection

having a dimension exceeding 200 mm and a drum having a volume exceeding 60 dm3, a control on the appliance shall be manually adjusted to the setting for remote operation before the appliance can be operated in this mode. The remote operation mode shall be deactivated automatically when the appliance door or lid has been opened.

Remote operation not involving the automatic starting, restarting or remote starting of a delayed cycle, of the appliance does not require a control on the appliance to be manually adjusted for remote operation . Examples of this type of remote user functionality are:

a) cancelling or pausing an operating cycle; or

b) changing the





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and, if necessary, by an appropriate test.

If compliance relies on the operation of an electronic circuit , the test is repeated under the following conditions applied separately:

- the fault conditions in a) to g) of 19.11.2 applied one at a time to the electronic circuit ;

- the electromagnetic phenomena tests of 19.11.4.2 and 19.11.4.5 applied to the appliance.

If programmable electronic circuits are used to ensure compliance, the software shall contain measures to control the fault/error conditions specified in Annex R.[As a result of the above, add 22.51 to R.2.2.5 and R.2.2.9]

appliance's user configurable settings (e.g. cycle temperature).

The remote operation mode shall be deactivated automatically in the case of a loss in the supply mains, unless:



A separate manual action distinct from closing the door is necessary for the user to re-initiate the remote operation cycle.The door lock or door interlock shall be actuated when the appliance is set for remote operation by the user.

Compliance is checked by inspection and, if necessary, by an





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appropriate test.



– the electromagnetic phenomena tests of 19.11.4.2 and 19.11.4.5 are applied to theappliance.

The appliance shall not enter the mode of remote operation.

If programmable electronic circuits are used to ensure compliance, the software shall contain measures to control the fault/error conditions specified in Table R.1 and is evaluated in accordance with the





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relevant requirements of Annex R.

[As a result of the above, add 22.51 to R.2.2.5 and R.2.2.9]

9 CI/ANEC 01

5 - 7 22.51 te The requirement to manually reset the control for remote operation needs to be consistently applied throughout the clause

Insert “manually” where shown: “…This control shall be manually reset if the appliance door has been opened…It is also necessary the manually reset the control in the case of a loss in the supply mains…”

See 8

10 NL02 5-6 22.51 ed Editorial improvement. Delete the word ‘be’ in the second sentence of the first paragraph of the addition:

This control shall be reset if the appliance door or lid has been opened.

See 8

11 NL03 7 22.51 ed Editorial improvement. Replace the words:‘It is also necessary to reset the control’By:‘The control shall also reset’

See 8

12 NL04 7-10 22.51 te/ed The setting for remote operation shall also be reset if the appliance is switched to standby of off mode unless the appliance

Replace the words:‘It is also necessary to reset the control’By: ‘The control shall also reset’

Replace the word ‘determined’ by ‘detected’.

Replace lines 7- 10 by:

It is also necessary to reset the control in the case of:

-the appliance being switched to standby or off mode, unless the appliance will detect a change in door or lid state occurring while in the off of standby mode.- a loss in the supply mains lasting more than 300 ms, unless the

Not accepted.Remote operation does not apply in Off mode, and for standby mode, the proposal comment 16 already addresses this as standby states must be tested as part of 19.11.4.





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Plus several other editorial improvements. appliance will detect a change in door or lid state occurring during the mains supply loss.

13 AU01 8 te Allowing up to 300ms loss of power could cause the micro processors or controls to go in to a unknown state

Delete line 8 Not accepted. See 8

14 CI/ANEC 02

9 22.51 te The wording/intent of this is unclear and could give rise to an unintended safety hazard.

Rewrite or delete this dashed item See 8

15 FI02 9-10 22.51 2nd dash ed The following text is unclear: - a change in door or lid state can

be determined while in this condition once the supply mains has been restored.

We propose to clarify the text.

We propose that the text will be modified as follows:a change in door or lid state can be determined during loss of mains once the supply mains has been restored.

See 8

16 NL05 11 22.51 te In order to provide the same level of safety (with regard to children and pets) for appliances that are started by remote operation (smart phone app) as for starting appliance locally the requirements from 22.51 have to be aligned to 20.104 with regard to reliability and resistance to EM disturbances.Since there is no control on the reliability of the external device (e.g. smart phone, app) used to start the appliance while in remote operation, the control that enables remote operation (after the door has been opened) shall be sufficiently reliable and resistant to EM disturbances to make sure the appliance cannot be remotely started while a child may have entered the appliance.

Add the following new paragraph after line 11:


– the fault conditions in a) to g) of 19.11.2 are applied one at a time to the electroniccircuit;– the electromagnetic phenomena tests of 19.11.4.2 and 19.11.4.5 are applied to theappliance.The appliance shall not enter the mode of remote operation. If the electronic circuit is programmable, the software shall contain measures to control the fault/error conditions specified in Table R.1 and is evaluated in

See 8





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accordance with the relevant requirements of Annex R.

17 CN01 12-15 22.105 te The core principle of the proposed change of 22.105 is to prevent users from internal heat hazard. However, the proposed change cannot cover all scenarios.

“Remote Operation commands shall not disable any cool down period.NOTE Examples of commands which may operate differently locally compared to remotely include pause, abort, or door open.”

Change to

“Remote Operation commands shall not open the door if the internal temperature is equal or higher than 55℃”

See 18

18 NO01 13 22.105 ed It is not clear if the information in the rationale regarding “However, when pause or abort are initiated remotely, the appliance shall not stop until the cool down temperature as indicated in clause 22.105 has been reached” is fully covered by the proposed text.To avoid misunderstanding, and to make sure that the cool down period is always completed independently of when in the drying cycle or cool down period the remote operation command is given, we propose the following modification.

Change the text to:“When a pause or abort of the drying cycle or cool down period are initiated by a remote operation commands, the appliance shall not disable any stop until the cool down period is completed.”

Accepted

DECISION: Secretariat to prepare a 2DC that considers the comment compilation and discussion from the meeting. The 2DC will be submitted by 25 June 2021 to enable it to be on the agenda for the Web Meeting Series II in 2021.


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12. IEC 60335-2-13: Particular requirements for deep fat fryers, frying pans and similar appliances 61/6156/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6298/RVC New EditionThe results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6298A/RVC

MB/NC

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Noted


Suggest to add the following words for clarityThis part 2 is to be used in conjunction with the latest edition of IEC 60335-1 and its amendments unless that edition precludes it; in that case, the latest edition that does not preclude it is used. It was established on the basis of the sixth edition (2020) of that standard.


3 CH02 121, 149, 153, 172, 174, 186, 188, 224, 226, 228, 230, 262, 264, 266, 268, 297, 299,


Accepted


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301, 303, 333, 335, 337, 356, 358, 373, 379, 381, 383, 385, 390, 394, 396


5 NL01 121149155

Etc.

All Title No title number at main clauses Add title number:1 Scope2 Normative references3 Terms and definitionsEtc.

See 3



See 3

7 DK01 ge The scope replaces the scope in the part 1. Therefore DC-supplied and battery-operated appliances are excluded from the scope. While appliances in the scope of this standard are unlikely to be battery-operated, consistency in the implementation of battery related requirements is lacking.

By omitting the wording on DC and battery-operated appliances found in part 1 scope, it seems clear that

To create consistency between scope and requirements DKNC proposes to:

Delete clause 12 and annex B in this part 2.

or alternatively:

Add DC-supplied and battery-operated appliances to the scope and relevant requirements for battery operated appliances in cl. 11.7 and, if

Accepted to add a fourth dashed item after line 148 in the scope the following:- battery-operated appliances

In Clause 12 include the following: This clause of Part 1 is not applicable.


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such appliances are not in scope of this part 2.

This is confirmed by the replacement in of part 1 requirements in11.7 which effectively exclude the heating test for appliances containing batteries.

However, clause 12 on charging of metal-ion batteries has been implemented

Likewise, annex B from part 1 has not been deleted.

necessary, in B.11.1

8 CH03 123 to 126

1 ed Wrong formatting (defined terms like “rated voltage” or “portable deep fat fryers” are to be formatted in bold).

Check and correct formatting. Accepted to bold ‘rated voltage’ in line 126

9 CH04 203, 209

7.12 ed As exception, defined terms are not to be formatted in bold in subclause 7.12 (in general, users of appliances do not consider safety standards, hence there is no need to apply formatting rules in 7.12).

Correct formatting of “portable frying pans” and “thermostat”.

Not accepted. This is not the substance of the text to be included in the instructions.

However, bold ‘portable deep fat fryers’ in line 201

10 US02 215-219 7.12 ed Indent text of instruction Indent lines 215-219 Accepted

11 CI/ANEC 01

Table 101 te These appliances are not intended to be used on the floor

Remove “or floor” from the last dashed item of Note a

Accepted as an editorial change




Not accepted.The title is consistent with other Part 2 standards


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with

Temperature rise limits of external accessible surfaces a

and with the format of Tables 3 and 9.

13 CN01 260 11.8 Table 101 teWe suggest to allow higher limits by using a warning label. The fryers are used by adults who have enough knowledge to use them. These kinds of appliances can be allowed to use a warning label just as specified in EN standards.

Add “hot surface symbol” in 7.6, 7.12, 7.14.

Add the footnote “e” as follow in Table 101

When, due to the construction or dimensional limitations of the appliance, the required values cannot be met, the maximum temperature rise shall not be higher than twice the values indicated. In such cases, a warning shall be marked on the appliance.

Accepted

14 DK02 349-350 22.35 te With the implementation of the note as normative text it becomes clear that the exemption of handles of accessories from the requirement is not feasible.This exemption might be considered to also apply to the handle of frying baskets and similar part that are normally directly attached to metal parts of the appliance and are gripped repeatedly for the removal and insertion of the frying basked.

With the exemption, such handles could pose risk of electric shock in case of a failure of basic insulation.

Delete the addition in line 349-350

(as well as the existing note already proposed to be deleted)

Not accepted


ed Wrong format of headline. Format “Bibliography” as bold and centered headline.

Accepted


DECISION: Proceed to FDIS for seventh edition. For all FDIS where there was no confirmation at the CDV stage regarding the In Some Countries notes, a Note of the Secretary will be included to draw NCs to identify any In Some Countries notes needing to be retained in the next edition.

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13. IEC 60335-2-14: Particular requirements for kitchen machines 13a. 61/6198/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6254/INF MT46, Accessibility due to misalignment of parts for food processorsAlso taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT46)41The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6254A/INF




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Noted

2 DE01 6-7 20.114 ge We agree with this proposal. Noted

3 SA01 7 20.114 Paragraph 4

A force not exceeding 5 N is applied to the parts in any direction and it shall not be possible to touch dangerous moving parts through openings, other than feed openings, created by the misalignment of parts with test probe B of IEC 61032.

No need to add change Not accepted.

However, delete wording shown as strikethrough, since it is not a part of the current standard.

DECISION: Proceed to CDV for new edition and to be aligned with 60335-1 ED6

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13b. 61/6222/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6255/INF MT46, Heating TestAlso taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT46)42


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Noted


Noted

3 DE01 ge According to IEC TC61 decision in document 61/6029A/INF, and IEC TC61 MT46 21st meeting discussion (see meeting minute point 7.2), German NC is preparing for a new proposal to replace the current test procedure of using food for clause 11 by an alternative(sustainable) method. Therefore we do not support this proposal, as it makes no sense to introduce this modification based on the exiting test method.

Delete the proposal. Not accepted. MT46 has not yet seen a proposal. We recommend that this proposal proceed until the DENC DC is circulated and NCs can determine which method is supported.

4 JP01 16-17 11.7 ed The test of clause 11.7.2 needs to be carried out for all kinds of appliances other than those subject to 3.1.9.119. However, in the proposal, the phrase “if necessary” may raise mis-interpretation that normally 11.7.2 is not applicable.

Add the underlined NOTE.as follows.

The appliance is subjected to the test of 11.7.1 if necessary the tests of 11.7.2 and 11.7.3.

NOTE Clause 11.7.2 is applicable to appliances other than:

- those that are operated without load in accordance with 3.1.9.119, or

- those which maximum load condition or operating period is not specified in the instructions

Not accepted. The phrase ‘if necessary’ is used regularly throughout the Part 1 standard. In addition, 11.7.2 has been updated to indicate when it is necessary in lines 37-39 and when it is not necessary in lines 40-41.

5 JP02 28 11.7 te We propose an alternative test for specific foods, instead of the test of 11.7.2.

When appliances process foods with high viscosity, such as thickening agent for

Add the following to 11.7

If it is difficult to check the compliance in the test of 11.7.2 as specified in the instructions, due to varying load and

Not accepted. The test of 11.7.2 is intended to determine if loads recommended in the





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nursing-care foods, jelly-like food, or rice-rich gruel, the load increases as the processing time increases and accordingly the power input varies severely.

In this case, it is difficult to check the compliance during the test of 11.7.2, so alternatively it should be allowed that the compliance is checked by the test of 11.7.3.

power input, the compliance may be checked by the test of 11.7.3.

instructions will result in excessive temperatures in the appliance.

6 JP03 35 11.7.1 ed It is better to clarify that appliances having more than one of the functions need the test for each of these functions.

Add the following to 11.7.1.

For appliances intended to perform more than one of the functions specified in 3.1.9.101 to 3.1.9.119, the test is carried out for each of these functions.

Not accepted. All functions should be considered to determine the most unfavourable conditions, but it may not be necessary to test all functions if it is obvious that a particular function will not be most unfavourable.

It was agreed to add the following to better clarify the meaning of the requirement:

5.9 Addition:For appliances intended to perform more than one of the functions specified in 3.1.9.101 to 3.1.9.119, the test is





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carried out with the functions which give the most unfavourable results.

7 NL01 37 11.7.2 te Similar to the reference to clause 10 in 11.7.3 we should refer to clause 10 in 11.7.2 as well.

Modify line 37 as follows:

If the power input, measured in accordance clause 10, of any load stated in the instructions exceeds the power input of the load used….

Accepted as follows:

If the power input, measured in accordance with clause 10, of any load stated in the instructions exceeds the power input of the load used…

8 JP04 61 11.7.2 ed It is better to clarify that appliances having more than one of the functions need the test for each of these functions.

Add the following to 11.7.2

For appliances intended to perform more than one of the functions, the test is carried out for each of these functions.

See 6

DECISION: Proceed to CDV for next edition, and to be aligned with 60335-1 ED6

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1 DE01 ge German NC supports this proposal. Noted


Noted


Noted

4 NL02 1-14 1 te By not excluding blenders for use by children in the scope of the standard it needs to be made sure that these appliances are safe to use by children.Since test probe 18 is not applied to blenders (a probe with even a much bigger stop face than test probe B is applied for blenders), blenders need to be excluded in the scope from use by children, similar to food processors.

Modify line 6 as follows:

– blenders including hand-held blenders;

Accepted

5 NL01 2 1 ed The next text should be added to the 4th paragraph (before the Note 103)

Modify to:

Add the following paragraph after the 4th paragraph (before Note 103):

Accepted

6 NL04 - 13.1.9.10111.7.10219.119.7

ed As Berry-juice extractor is now a new defined term, but the term has been used in the standard on different places. So make them bold.

Make “berry-juice extractor” bold. Accepted

7 CI/ANEC 01

5 - 8 1 te Berry juice extractors, hand-held blenders, centrifugal juicers, food processors, noodle makers are appliances commonly used by older children

Delete:Berry juice extractors;hand-held blenders;centrifugal juicers;food processors;noodle makers.From the list of appliances the use of which by children is not taken into

Not accepted





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account

8 JP01 6 1 te The proposal defines berry-juice extractors and centrifugal juicers as appliances not used by children. If so, ordinary blenders should be defined as the same.

Delete “hand-held” as follows.

- hand-held blenders

See 4

9 JP02 7-8 1 te Food mixers should be also defined as appliances not used by children.

Add the following after “- centrifugal juicers;”

- food mixers

Accepted, and as a consequence food mixers shall be added to the list of appliances covered in lines 27 to 29.

10 JP03 22 3.108 ed Berry-juice extractors are called a masticating juicer as often as an auger slow juicer.

Add “or masticating juicer” as follows.

Note 1 to entry: A berry-juice extractor is also known as an auger slow juicer or masticating juicer.

Not accepted. Not all masticating juicers are auger juicers. Some masticating juicers do not crush the food loads, but instead use a grinding screw to break up the food load.

However it was agreed to replace lines 5 and 7, with the following:

- Juicers, other than citrus-fruit squeezers

And as a consequence,





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modify the list of appliances in lines 27 accordingly.

11 NL03 17-23 3.108 te As the definition includes appliances intended to juice all sorts of fruits and vegetable (and without stating the word ‘berry’) it does not make sense to use the term ‘berry-juice extractor’.

berry-juice extractorappliance intended to juice various fruits and vegetables by use of an auger to crush the food load and a strainer to separate the juice from the pulp.

Replace the term ‘Berry-juice extractor’by ‘Juice extractor’ throughout the standard.

Or, as an alternative, use the term ‘auger slow juicer’ as indicated in Note 1 to entry.

Accepted to use ‘auger juicer’

As a result, delete Note 1 to entry and update all references to berry-juice extractor throughout the standard as noted in 6.

12 CI/ANEC 02

27-28 7.12 te Remove reference to Berry juice extractors, hand-held blenders, centrifugal juicers, food processors, noodle makers

“For knives, hand-held blenders, berry-juice extractors, centrifugal juicers, food processors, mincers, noodle makers, lathe-type or hand-held potato peelers, vegetable graters/shredders, bean slicers and slicing machines shall include the substance of the following:…”

See 7

13 JP04 27-30 7.12 ed It is better to prevent the redundancy of the text.

Change the text as follows.

For appliances that are identified in clause 1 not to take into account their use by children knives, hand-held blenders, berry-juice extractors, centrifugal juicers, food processors, mincers, noodle makers, lathe-type or hand-held potato peelers, vegetable graters/shredders, bean slicers and slicing machines shall include the substance of the following:

Not accepted

14 NL05 27 7.12 te Include blenders in the list of appliances Replace ‘hand-held blenders’ by Accepted





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not suitable for use by children. ‘blenders including hand-held blenders’

15 AU01 44 te Children (up to 14) will use these appliances irrespective of any warning, interlocks should not be able to be overridden using the smaller test probe.

Delete the suggested additional text in Line 44- 46,

Not accepted. These products are attended in use and are used on a work surface. Some products covered in 60335-2-14 have moving parts that are necessarily exposed to perform the working function. These products should not be used by children or be unsupervised if accessible to children.

16 DK01 45-46 20.2 te While it is recognized that the listed appliances shall not be used by children and therefor children need not be protected against access to the moving parts while in operation, these appliances are used in the kitchen where children must be assumed to be present and therefor access to these appliances by children while they are not being used (e.g., while having been dismantled for emptying or cleaning) cannot be excluded.

Therefor test probe 18 should be applied to the interlocking switch/function of all appliances to ensure that hazardous moving parts cannot accidentally be accessed/set in motion by children.

Delete the proposed addition and modify the existing text so that it reads:

"However, enclosures that can be opened by overriding an interlock by applying the test probe B and test probe 18 are considered to be detachable parts"

Not accepted. See 15

17 JP05 46 20.2 ed It is better to refer to clause 1 rather than Change the text as follows. Not accepted.





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7.12 for appliances not intended for children. However, enclosures that can be

opened by overriding an interlock by applying the test probe B are considered to be detachable parts. In addition, test probe 18 shall be applied for appliances other than those identified in clause 1 not to take into account their use by children identified in 7.12 as not intended for use by children.

Referring to 7.12 enforces the requirement that the instruction must state the appliance is not intended for use by children.

18 JP06 51-52 20.2 te We do not support the proposal for the following reasons.

The test probe having a stopper with a diameter of 50 mm as specified in the proposal will allow larger feed openings and make it unsafe.

If the throat only has a minimum height of 80 mm above the cutting blade and minimum cross-sectional dimension of 50 mm, the stopper is blocked by the throat and makes it compliant (unsafe), as shown by the below figure.

Test probe B

Test probe similar to test probe B of IEC 61032 but having a circular stop face with a diameter of 50 mm

Delete the proposal at line 51-52. Not accepted. This is the current requirement in the standard. Test probe B with the circular stop face is applied (from 20.2 of the Part 1) to feed openings unless they meet the specified dimensions. This addition is only intended to clarify that test probe 18 is not also applied to the feed openings.





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19 DK02 88-89 20.113 te While it is recognized that food processors

shall not be used by children and therefor children need not be protected against access to the moving parts while in operation/use, food processors are used in the kitchen where children must be assumed to be present and therefor access to food processors by children while they are not being used (e.g., during a temporary pause in the use while taking out additional ingredients) cannot be excluded.

Therefor test probe 18 should be applied to the interlocking switch/function of food processors to ensure that hazardous moving parts cannot accidentally be accessed/set in motion by children while the lid is not in position

Modify the proposed text so that it reads:

"Compliance is checked by inspection, by manual test and by applying test probe B and test probe 18 of IEC 61032..."

Not accepted. See 15.

20 NL06 94-107 20.118 te Cordless appliances do not necessarily have to be battery operated appliance.

Delete the proposal in lines 94-107. Accepted to modify 20.118 as follows and delete lines 95-107:

20.118 The operation of cordless appliances incorporating





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cutting blades that are accessible to test probe B of IEC 61032 applied with a force not exceeding 5 N shall require two separate movements unless the control device is not directly accessible to the probe. In addition, test probe 18 shall be applied with a force not exceeding 2,5 N for appliances other than those identified in 7.12 as not intended for use by children.

NOTE A movement of two control devices or the movement of the same device in two different directions areexamples of two separate movements.Compliance is checked by inspection and by manual test.





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21 AU02 104 te Children (up to 14) will use these appliances irrespective of any warning, interlocks should not be able to be overridden using the smaller test probe.

In line 104 modify the suggested additional text as follows:

In addition, test probe 18 shall be applied with a force not exceeding 2,5 N for appliances other than those identified in 7.12 as not intended for use by children.

Not accepted. See 15

DECISION: Proceed to CDV for next edition and to be aligned to 60335-1 ED6

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14. IEC 60335-2-15: Particular requirements for appliance for heating liquids 14a. 61/6199/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6257/INF Germany, Built-in appliancesThe results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6257A/INF




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1 DE01 ge We support the proposal Noted


Noted


Noted

4 DK01 Introduction

ge The content of this proposal does not appear to be related to the documents listed under project history, so this indication is not understood.

See 5

5 US01 ge The introduction mentions 61/5869/DC and its INF, but there is no proposal addressing handle securement as was

Accepted; the DC document will be corrected to





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proposed in this DC.

This proposal seems to be related to 61/5606/DC and 61/5663A/INF.

reference the correct source documents (61/5606/DC and 61/5663A/INF) and meeting (Wellington plenary).

6 DK02 1-29 15.104 te While the proposed test does appear appropriate and agreeable to simulate spillage from build-in situations as shown in example 1, this test does not appropriately reflect spillage onto the build-in appliance from other appliances located above the appliance as included in the rationale and shown in example 2.

In 60335-2-25, cl. 15.103 a similar build-in situation is represented by a different and more appropriate test. To ensure that test specifications are representative and to ensure alignment between different standards, this test should be included in addition to the test already contained in this proposal

Add a test similar to that of IEC 60335-2-25 cl. 15.103 in order to appropriately represent spillage from other build-in appliances located above the appliance.

Accepted

7 US02 1 15.104 te There is no compliance criteria for this test. Either this should be relocated as an Addition to 15.2 as is done in -2-6 or 15.104 should include the criteria for determining compliance at the end of the test.

The wording in the proposed change is from 15.2 of Part 1.

Add the following at the end of the 15.104:

The appliance shall then withstand the electric strength test of 16.3 and inspection shall show that there is no trace of water on insulation that could result in a reduction of clearances or creepage distances below the values specified in Clause 29.

See 6

DECISION: Proceed to CDV for next edition and to be aligned with 60335-1 ED6. When preparing the CDV, the reference to the rinse agent in Annex AA will be reviewed and updated.


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14b. 61/6224/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6258/INF Netherlands, 22.103 on position of cordless appliance during testingThe results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6258A/INF




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1 DE01 ge We support the proposal Noted

2 GB01 22.103 ge The British National Committee supports the proposal with the following comment:

Noted

3 GB02 22.103 te Within 60335-2-15 clause 22.103 and the additional proposal from the Netherlands (61/6224/DC), the test procedure does not define how the appliance is placed onto the stand.

Clarity is required to explain that the appliance should be placed onto the stand under only the appliance’s own weight.

Accepted with the following wording:The test shall be performed with the cordless appliance empty, placed without appreciable force, and withdrawn in a motion perpendicular to the stand. The appliance shall be placed and withdrawn at the same position from the stand, without rotation, throughout the test.

DECISION: Proceed to CDV for next edition and to be aligned with 60335-1 ED6

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14c. 61/6229/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6259/INF Italy, 22.115The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6259A/INF




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1 DE01 ge We support the proposal with following comments.

Noted


Noted


Noted

4 ZA01 ed ZA NC supports 61/6229/DC with the following technical comment:

Noted

5 ZA02 5 22.115 te Line 6-7 will not ensure safety therefore has to be removed and replace by. unless one or more of the following conditions are fulfilled:

Replace the sentence by “unless the following conditions are fulfilled:”

See 6

6 SA01 6 22.115 Paragraph 2

the rotation is in the lateral direction and oriented towards the centre of the machine. In this case the rotation can be up to 75°; or

Disagree, It may affect the safety of the consumer's hand.

Not accepted

7 US01 6-7 22.115 te Manufacturers have the ability to design taller work spaces in the brewing area which can accommodate larger mugs without having to exceed the 45 degree maximum angle. Positioning the output at more than 45 degrees with a smaller appliance may result in misdirection of hot steam or liquid beyond the perimeter of the appliance.

Delete the first dashed item See 6

8 ZA03 6-7 22.115 te Delete 6-7, it will compromise safety of the product.

See 6

9 NL01 8 22.115 te Editorial improvement. Add the word possible in the second dashed item:

Accepted





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there is no release of steam or hot water possible when frothing nozzles or hot water nozzles rotate to more than 45° upwards from the downwards facing vertical position. In this case there is no limit to the rotation angle in any direction.

10 SA02 8 22.115 Paragraph 3

there is no release of steam or hot water when frothing nozzles or hot water nozzles rotate to more than 45° upwards from the downwards facing vertical position. In this case there is no limit to the rotation angle in any direction.

Accepted if new requirement added to clause 19

See 11

11 NL02 8-10 22.115 te NLNC feels that when reliance is put on an electronic circuit that ensures no steam of hot water can be releases at angles greater than 45 C, the electronic circuit shall be sufficiently reliable and resistant to EM disturbances.

At the following at the end of the dashed item:


– the fault conditions in a) to g) of 19.11.2 are applied one at a time to the electronic circuit;

– the electromagnetic phenomena tests of 19.11.4.2 and 19.11.4.5 are applied to theappliance.

If the electronic circuit is programmable, the software shall contain measures to control the fault/error conditions specified in Table R.1 and is evaluated in accordance with the relevant requirements of Annex R.

Accepted; EG1 to align editorially with regard to the compliance statement in line 11.

12 DE02 11 22.115 ed Add a Note after line 11.The rotation of the frothing nozzle or hot water nozzle is shown in Figure 10X.

Add after line 11:NOTE The rotation of the frothing or hot water nozzle is shown in Figure

Accepted to be introduced after the first dashed item.





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10X.

13 DE03 22.115 Figure 10X ed Add the figure in the attachment in the standard.Add also the angle 45° to the middle and right Coffee-maker on the left side.

Figure 10X – Rotation of the frothing or hot water nozzleSee also Annex to this document

Accepted. It was agreed to retain only the third figure that shows the situation described in the proposal (lines 6-7).


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15. IEC 60335-2-16: Particular requirements for food waste disposers 61/6230/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6260/INF Secretariat, IPX1 ratingsThe results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6260A/INF




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Noted


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16. IEC 60335-2-17: Particular requirements for blankets, pads, clothing and similar flexible heating appliances 61/6200/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6261/INF MT15, VariousThe results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6261A/INF





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1 NL01 8-22 5.12 te It is not the EN standard but the IEC 60335-2-17 that changes the 25 % into 10 %. It was introduced by A2 to the IEC 60335-2-17 edition 2 and is there since 2008.

Nevertheless, the reason why a change is needed is not clear and understood from “Reason why”.

Delete proposal Not accepted. It was noted that the correct reference should be to IEC 60335-2-17 and not to the EN standard.

MT15 expert, Mr. Arturo Morgandi, provided the following clarifications regarding the rationale for the proposed changes in 61/6200/DC:The non-controlled blankets have to be tested at 1,15 times rated power and if the heating element has a temperature coefficient comprised between 5% to 10%, the risk with the present standard is to generate a higher temperature rise in a range up to + 4K.The reason is because, with the actual standard such blankets are tested at a lower power due to the fact that the test voltage is adjusted in cold conditions when starting the test. As consequence, when the temperature of the heating element reaches the steady state conditions, the power will be lower than





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1,15 times value.

2 NL02 25-26 19.1 te This modification does not make sense. The component interrupting the current is either a fuse-link complying with IEC 60127 or an intentional weak part. For fuse-links normally cl. 19.12 applies additional to check the correct fuse value. For intentional weak parts, the relevant test is repeated on a second sample. This second test shall be terminated in the same mode.It seems that by this proposal the fuse-links is neither subjected to the requirement of fuse-links nor as intentional weak parts.By this proposal the reliability of the fuse-link is not checked at all. As it is also not an intentional weak part.

Delete proposal Not acceptedMT15 expert, Mr. Arturo Morgandi, provided the following clarifications regarding the rationale for the proposed changes in 61/6200/DC:The proposed Addition is just for clarification. The fuse links as intentionally weak parts are fully tested by the requirements of the sub-clause 19.107 of IEC60335-2-17.

It shall be noted that in Part 1 the requirement for the fuse link to be compliant with IEC60127, is mentioned only in clause 19.12 as follows: … during any of the fault conditions specified in 19.11.2 …

And NOTE 2 of such clause 19.12 states: “Other fuses are considered to be intentionally weak parts in accordance with 19.1.”

3 NL03 34-36 21.111 te This is a test specification and needs to be in italic.It is not clear what the criteria have to be followed to justify testing of annex






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XX. This is also mentioned in 21.111.1, so need need to mention.

4 US01 33-36 21.111 ed Not sure what “eventually alternatively” means, but this seems to be covered by the reference to Annex XX in lines 41-44 of 21.111.1

Delete lines 33-36 Accepted

5 NL04 39-40 The proposed text should be introduced at the end of the clause for readability.

Replace lines 39-40 by:Introduce the new following paragraph at the end of the clause.

Accepted

6 NL05 41-43 The wording “Alternatively” does not align with “test is repeated”.The NLNC believes the testing of mattresses with a rigidity index >= 25 N/m is an alternative, so should not be performed on another sample.

In line 43:Replace the wording “repeated on a new sample” by “performed”

Accepted with the following wording as it was clarified it was not intended to identify the proposal as an alternative test.

For a heating element with PTC characteristics integrated in the flexible part of mattresses, having a rigidity index measured according to Annex xx equal or greater than 25 N/m, the test is performed with two pulleys having the diameter at the base of the groove being modified as follows:

7 US02 45-48 21.111.1 ed All decimals should use a comma as a decimal separator throughout the proposal.

In line 44: Replace ‘follows:’ with ‘Table 115.’Add new Table 115 as follows:

Table 115

Accepted





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This information is not easily understood in its current format. It would be better in table format or rewritten as dashed items and better identify what these numbers are referring to. It is also not clear what the ÷ and ± symbols are referring to.

Pulley Diameter for heating elements with PTC characteristic in

mattresses

Cross sectional conductive area

of heating element, mm2

Pulley diameter, mm

≤ 6,0 120> 6,0 to ≤ 10 160

> 10 2008 NL06 66-72 30.101.1 te No rationale is given for the relaxation. Delete proposal Not accepted based on

the further justification given during the meeting by MT 15, Mr. Arturo Morgandi, who provided the following clarifications regarding the rationale for the proposed changes in 61/6200/DC:

The MT15 proposal is an update of this requirement in order to simplify the test criteria and to add a safety margin according to the state of the art. The actual test allows that the enclosure ignites providing that the flame reaches the edge of the mask after an average (over 12 samples) of 80 sec. The new requirement consider that within 120 sec the flame should





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not reach the edge of the mask. As consequence, in one way the test method is simplified and in another way the requirement is more severe, bringing it in line with the state of the art.

It was agreed that the following modification is to be made to the 8th paragraph in 30.101.1:

The test is repeated on two additional samples and any ignition shall not reach the inner edge of the mask.

9 US03 78 30.102 ed Include this note in the normative text Delete the Note and modify lines 39 and 44 to add ‘, including connections,’ after ‘heating elements or electro-conductive textiles and internal wiring’

Accepted

10 US04 95 30.102 te Assuming the test is to be conducted on three samples total, which is common, this line should indicate that the test is repeated on two additional samples

The test is repeated on two additional samples.

Accepted.

DECISION: Proceed to CDV as next edition and to be aligned with 60335-1 ED6

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17. IEC 60335-2-23: Particular requirements for skin or hair care 61/6201/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6262/INF MT4, Use of Probe 18 and accessible surface temperaturesAlso taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT4)26The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6262A/INF




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Noted

2 GB01 The British National Committee supports the proposal in principle but with the following comments:

Noted


Noted

4 GB02 11-25 7 ge The proposed marking requirement conflicts with 22.13; hence delete rows 11 to 25 from the proposal.


5 NL01 11-25 7 te The provision to allow temperature doubling for no specific reason provides a loophole around the T-limits specified in table 101.

Delete lines 11-25. Not accepted

6 DE01 23 7.15 ed There is no “ marking specified for external accessible surfaces” defined in this standard. The standard term shall be used.

Change the first sentence “The marking specified for external accessible surfaces shall be visible when the appliance is operated as in normal use,” to “ If the symbol IEC 60417-5041 (2002-10) is marked on the appliance, it shall be visible when the appliance is operated as in normal use, ”

Accepted with the following wording: If the hot surface marking in 7.1, or symbol IEC 60417-5041 (2002-10) is marked on the appliance, it shall be visible when the appliance is operated as in normal use





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7 DE02 23-25 7.15 te The marking to warn the “hot surface” shall be marked on or in the near of hot external surface, otherwise it cannot give the warning function to the user which area of touchable surface is hot and shall be careful during the use.

Delete the proposal. Not accepted; this approach is accepted across all other parts 2 that have this provision.

8 AU01 38 te Line 38 and 39 should be reworded as in the CDV for 2-59

Delete line 38 and 39 and replace with the following:

The temperature rise of handles or grips of vents and air shutters shall not exceed the value specified in Table 3 for surfaces of handles, knobs, grips and similar parts which are held for short periods only in normal use

Accepted.

9 CI/ANEC 01

11.8 Table 101 te Permitting maximum temperature rises to double the given (safe) limits is an over generous relaxation.

Delete note b from Table 101. Not accepted

10 CH02 42 11.8 Table 101 ed Like in other Parts 2 improve clarity of headline by adding “limits” after “rise” and adding “of external accessible surfaces”.


accessible surfaces a, b, f

withTemperature rise limits of external accessible surfaces a, b, f

Refer to EG1.

11 DE03 11.8 Table 101The 4th dashed item of footnote a

te “air outlet” is not surface, the table 101 is dealing with temperature rise of external surfaces. Therefore, this dashed item is redundant.

Delete the proposal. Accepted with the following wording: “air outlet grills, attachments/nozzles directly mounted…”

12 NL02 43 11.8 Table 101, footnote a

te It is unclear what the scope is of the word ‘covers’ in the 7th dash of footnote a in table 101. Appliance enclosure parts could also be read as being covers.

Delete the words ‘and covers’. Not accepted. Some products in this part 2 have covers, such as heaters for detachable curlers.





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13 DK01 42 11.8 Table 101 te The DK DC does not support the option for doubling the surface temperature limits as proposed by footnote b

Delete footnote b of table 101.Because of that, also lines 11-25 must be deleted

Not accepted

14 NL03 43 11.8 Table 101, footnote b

te The provision to allow temperature doubling for no specific reason provides a loophole around the T-limits specified in table 101.

Delete footnote b of table 101 Not accepted

15 CH03 50 Figure 102 ed Correction of typo. Replace “□□□” with “+/-”. Accepted

16 GB03 22.13In standard

ed Given the new definition for functional surfaces, 22.13 needs to be updated.

22.13 to read: “To avoid accidental contact with functional surfaces, the handle shall be clearly identified by tactile means, or colour or other visual means.EXAMPLE The handle of curling irons and hair straighteners.”.

Not accepted


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18. IEC 60335-2-27: Particular requirements for appliances for skin exposure to optical radiation 61/6202/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6263/INF Australia, Emission of UV-C and ratio of UV-B to the total irradianceAlso taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT16)36The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6263A/INF





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Noted

2 DE02 ge The DE NC received divergent comments from its members and displays the different opinions in the following comments.

Noted

3 FR01 ge FR NC expresses reservations. Noted

4 DE01 ge Such specific topics should be handled, if available, in the WGs/MTs first. E.g. the scope of MT16 reads: Maintain (in conjunction with the Secretary of TC 61) Clause 32 and consequential clauses and annexes in IEC 60335 series of standards, including those under control of Subcommittees. Service personnel exposure is excluded from the scope. If an SC is considering including requirements for these matters, MT16 must be consulted for guidance.Shouldn’t that hold for NCs too?

Noted. It was confirmed at the meeting that if a NC would like to preliminarily involve an expert group (i.e. MT) in review of a DC before submitting the DC for discussion by the TC, that is an optional step but it cannot be mandatory for NCs to do this. It is mandatory for a WG, MTs, etc within TC 61 to involve a specific group of experts when it is indicated in the scope of the MT, WG, etc.

5 DE03 ge 1) The German Federal Office for Radiation Protection (BfS) supports the proposal to ensure that the device does not emit more UV radiation than the sun would emit with the following comments:

2) The German Federal Office for Radiation Protection (BfS) supports

Consider the BfS opinion if the proposal is not deleted

Noted; see also 6





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an adoption of the limit regarding the spectral irradiance in the UVC range (200 nm to 280 nm) as already used for example in IEC 60335-2-65.

3) An evaluation of solar measurement data from the German Federal Office for Radiation Protection (BfS) shows that the proposed range of ratio (R) is in accordance to natural conditions at earth surface considering a UVB range defined in CIE S017/2020. For a UVB range as used in IEC 60335-2-27 (280 nm ≤ λ ≤ 320) the proposed ratio could be extended up to 0,007 < R < 0,05.

6 DE04 te With the exception of the BfS the DE NC comments:1) The rationale of the AU proposal

gives no indication why the irradiance of UV appliances should be “more closely aligned with the irradiance from the sun at the earth surface.”The validity of the Bunsen-Roscoe-Law for the effects of UV doses, ensures the safety limits of UV appliances are given by the similarity of the erythemal effects of the appliances to natural sun. The similarity of the irradiance would not add any safety to the appliances.

2) The sufficient limit for UV-C is given in the standard. The additional proposed limit for UV-C does not increase the safety and raise practical measurement difficulties in measurement equipment and calibration process.

3) The safety of UV appliances is determined by the limitation of the

Delete the proposal

Delete the proposal on UVC

Delete the Australian proposal on UVB/UV-ratio

Noted. As there is a split position by the NC (see comments 5 and 6) it was not possible for the TC to make a determination on the comment.





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erythemal weighted radiation. Thereby the weighting function takes into account the effect of different portions of the radiation. The UVB to UV ratio has not been indicated as a separate risk factor.

Both parts of the proposal are unnecessary to cover the risks associated with the appliances covered by IEC 60335-2-27.

7 FI01 ge The Finnish NC does not support this proposal.We think that there is no need for those proposed additions to the existing IEC standard. The limits for UV-C are given in the last paragraph of clause 32.101 of IEC 60335-2-27. The “natural” sun spectral limits proposed by Australia would not be any safer than the current limits in the IEC standard. The “natural” sun itself is so variable according to location, time of day and season. (See additional graph in Annex)

We propose to delete this proposal. Not accepted

8 MT16-01

Rationale te The proposal indicates a rationale ‘There are no limits to check the inadvertent emission of UV-C…’The limits for UV-C are clearly given in the last paragraph of clause 32.101 of IEC 60335-2-27:

Appliances shall have a total irradiance not exceeding 0,003 W/m2, for wavelengths between 200 nm and 280 nm.

Additionally, the new limits proposed by the AU NC are already given in Annex EE (informative): Irradiance limits set by

Delete the Australian proposal on UV-C, since it’s based on a non-correct rationale.

Not accepted





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regional or national authorities.

9 MT16-02

Rationale te The safety of appliances emitting UV is determined by the limitation of the erythemal weighted radiation. Thereby the weighting function takes into account the effect of different portions of the radiation. The UVB to UV ratio has not been indicated as a separate risk factor.

Delete the Australian proposal on UVB/UV-ratio, since it’s based on a non-correct rationale and it’s unnecessary to cover the risks associated with the appliances covered by IEC 60335-2-27.

Not accepted

10 MT16-03

Rationale te As far as we know there is no evidence to suggest that the “natural” sun spectral limits proposed by the AU NC would be any safer than limits in IEC 60335-2-27:2019. Besides “natural” sun is so variable according to location, time of day, season, etc. it’s impossible to pick a single spectrum that would correlate best with the “natural” sun.

Delete the Australian proposal because it’s based on non-correct assumptions.

Not accepted

11 US01 1-6 32, 32.101

te There is not sufficient information provided to explain the need for the requirement and to why the values specified are appropriate. Input from MT16 on this proposal is also requested.

Delete proposal Not accepted

12 DE05 2 32.101 ed The addition in line 2 and 3 would contradict to the existing limit on UV-C (wavelength 200 to 280nm) in 32.101. Therefore, it should not be an addition.

If not deleted, rephrase the proposal to fit to the existing text.

Accepted; refer to EG1 to add a sentence at the end of the penultimate paragraph of 32.101.

13 CZ01 3-6 32.101 te Limits based on dose units (J/m2) are more suitable for assessing UV exposure than on irradiance (W/m2), see limits in ICNIRP. This applies to this standard as well as the proposed change.

Not accepted. Doses are in the standard (e.g. for exposure schedules).Irradiance limits are in the standard since people need





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to reduce the risk of exposure timing.

14 DE06 3 - 4 32.101 te The limits for UV-C are already given and there is no rationale to set them in a different way.

Delete lines 3 - 4 Not accepted

15 FR02 3-4 te FR NC accepts the proposed terms. See 12

16 NO01 3-4 32.101 ge We do not support the proposed limit for spectral UVC irradiance. The radiation level < 280 nm is normally very low and difficult to distinguish from noise. Most instruments will not be able to measure it properly. The few small UVC spikes contribute to a very small extent to the dose and possible health effects. In our opinion the proposed limit will be of no practical importance, and we consider the existing 0,003 W/m2 irradiance limit for 200-280 nm sufficient.

Not accepted

17 DE07 5-6 32.101 te The proposal is transferred from Annex EE Table EE.2 to clause 32.101 as it. In table EE.2 the additional requirement is only valid for UV type 2 and 3, while clause 32.101 deals with the requirements for all UV types.

If not deleted, it should be proven by the AU NC that a transfer of the requirement to UV type 1, 4 and 5 is possible.

Not accepted

18 FR03 5-6 32-101 te FR NC disagrees with Australian Committeeproposal and gives following comments

Noted

19 FR04 te FR NC recalls that UVB radiation is erythemal component of the UV emitters spectrum and considers that it would be a potential danger for human health to provide a minimum level.

Since June 1st 1997, French regulation asks a maximum ratio UVB/ total UV lower than 1,5 %(Art 8 decree 97-617 ; May 31 1997)

Delete minimum level R of 0,007.

Retain only R < 0,015

Accepted to read “shall fall within the limits R < 0,03”

A Secretariat Note will be included in the CDV to ask NCs to confirm the limit 0,03 or to propose different limits based





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on objective, factual evidence.

20 NO02 5-6 32.101 ge Generally, we support requirements to get sunbed irradiance more similar to that from natural sun. From our experience with measurements of the sun and different types of fluorescent UV lamps commonly used in Norway (0.3 W/m² and UV type 3 requirements), and calculations of the ratio UVB to total of the spectral irradiance, the suggested lower limit seems to be in accordance most UV type 3 sunbeds and the limit is ok. The upper limit seems to be somewhat lower than for natural sun and thereby a little strict. We propose increasing it to 0,04. That would also imply that most UV type 3 sunbeds on the market would be within the limits.

Change the upper limit in line 6 to 0,04: “… fall within the limits 0,0007 < R < 0,04.”

See 19

21 NO03 5-6 32.101 ed To avoid any confusion with effective irradiance, we suggest writing total spectral irradiance instead of total irradiance.

Add the word “spectral” twice in line 5: “The ratio (R) of the total spectral irradiance in the range 280 nm ≤ λ ≤ 320 nm to the total spectral irradiance in the range ….”

Not accepted

22 DE08 6 32.101 te Beside our comment DE4, the Australian National Committee intents to align the total irradiance ratio of UVB with irradiance from natural sun at the earth surface. But there is no lower limit for such a ratio, since the ratio is determined by the travel distance of the radiation through atmosphere, which is very much depending on the solar angle, and reduces the UVB ration literally down to zero. Therefore, a lower limit for a UVB/UV-ratio is not justified by the rationale.

Delete the lower limit for ratio R in line 6

See 19

23 DE09 6 32.101 te Beside our comment DE4, the Australian Delete the upper limit for ratio R in line See 19





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National Committee intents to align the total irradiance ratio of UVB with irradiance from natural sun at the earth surface. But there is no ‘natural’ upper limit for the UVB/UV-ratio.The defined reference sun in DIN67501, which provides a well-accepted ‘average natural spectrum’ is used as solar simulator for sunscreen testing all over the world. The UVB/UV-ratio of this spectrum is 5,6%.The highest natural values will be measurable in the mountains at summer day noon, when the solar angle is nearly perpendicular to the earth’s surface. These will by far exceed the value of 5,6% in the reference sun. Prior to propose an upper limit of 3%, the Australian National Committee should investigate and document the natural values to align any proposal with the intention of the rationale.

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19. IEC 60335-2-28: Particular requirements for sewing machines 61/6157/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6299/RVC New Edition Also taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT31)14The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6299A/RVC


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Noted

2 CI/ANEC 01

ge CI supports this document Noted




4 CH02 113, 140, 146, 165, 167, 172, 174, 202, 208, 210, 212, 238, 240, 242, 244, 246, 248, 250, 252, 257, 268,


Accepted


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270, 282, 284, 291, 298, 300, 302, 304, 306, 309, 311


6 NL01 113140146

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all Title ed No title number Add title number:1 Scope2 Normative references3 Terms and Definitions

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See 4

8 DK01 117 1 te The scope replaces the scope in the part 1. Therefore DC-supplied and battery-operated appliances are excluded from the scope.



Direct current (DC) supplied appliances and battery-operated appliances are within the scope of the standard.

Accepted as modified:

Add the following to the end of the first paragraph:

, including direct current (DC) supplied appliances and battery-operated appliances


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9 CH03 131, 133, 137, 138

1 ed Wrong formatting (two dashes in a line). Correct formatting (delete one dash). Accepted

10 US02 131-139 1 ed Double dash Remove extra dash See 9

11 CH04 157, 161

3.5 ed Double numbering. Delete “3.1” and “3.2”, respectively. Accepted

12 DK02 157 3.5.101 ed There is a typo in the numbering of this clause.

Delete the number "3.1" in the beginning of the line

See 11

13 DK03 161 3.5.102 ed There is a typo in the numbering of this clause.

Delete the number "3.2" in the beginning of the line

See 11

14 NL02 157161

3.5.1013.5.102

ed Incorrect reference in front of the reference

Delete 3.1

Delete 3.2See 11

15 US03 158, 161

3.1, 3.2 ed Delete 3.1 and 3.2 Delete 3.1 and 3.2 See 11

16 CH05 188 7.12 ed Wrong formatting of defined term “rated voltage”.

Format “rated voltage” in bold. See 17

17 US04 188 7.12 ed Modify to match line 177 and 181 The instructions shall state the maximum power input rated wattage of any lamp and its rated voltage rating if it is …

Accepted

18 DK04 228-230 11.7 te Since this part of the proposal is a replacement of 11.7 in the part-1 it does not provide for an appropriate implementation of the heating test for battery operated appliances while integral or separable batteries are being charged in the appliance.

It is assumed that the conditions specified in the part-1 for batteries that are charged while the appliance is not performing its intended function are appropriate and suitable also for appliances in the scope


"For appliances incorporating integral batteries or separable batteries not disconnected from the appliance for charging purposes:– the battery that has been fully discharged is charged for 1 h, while the appliance is operated as specified, if allowed by the construction of the appliance;– the battery that has been fully discharged is charged, for a duration

Accepted with the following wording; to be checked by EG1 for coherence with 60335-1.

Modify line 222 by the following:

11.7 Modification: Replace the 1st and 2nd paragraph (of part 1) by the


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of this standard and therefor the requirement from the part-1 can be included directly.

However, for appliances that can perform their intended function while the batteries are also being charged, the requirement for continuous operation as specified the part-1 may not be appropriate and does not correspond with the operation otherwise specified for sewing machines. Therefor this part needs to be adapted to suit appliances covered by this standard.

of 24 h or until it is fully charged whichever is shorter, without the battery-operated appliance performing its intended function."

following:

Replace in the 3rd paragraph (of part 1) 1st dashed item the wording “operated continuously” by“operating in cycles, where one cycles comprises: 2,5 s operation from start to full speed; 5,0 s operation at full speed; 7,5 s at rest. ”

It is considered the load and cycling of battery-operated appliances does not differ from mains-operated appliances.








ed Wrong format of headline. Format “Bibliography” as bold headline.

Accepted

21 DK05 333 Annex B te The proposal does not provide for an appropriate implementation of the heating test for battery operated appliances when they are not connected to the supply for charging.


B.11.1 replacement:

Accepted with the following wording. To be checked by EG1 for coherence


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As no modification is provided for B.11.1 in the part 1, it means that battery-operated appliances that are operated while not connected to the supply, shall be operated continuously until depletion of the battery.

This type of operation is different from what is otherwise specified for appliances in this standard and therefor may not be appropriate for the type of operation foreseen by these appliances and does not correspond to the operation of appliances that are not battery operated.

It must be assumed that appliances are used in the same way while supplied from the batteries as when supplied from the mains and therefore it is proposed to contain the same requirement in cl. 11.7 as in B.11.1

Battery-operated appliances are tested under the conditions of normal operation.

Battery-operated appliances with non-rechargeable batteries, with detachable batteries, and those incorporating integral batteries or separable batteries not disconnected from the appliance for charging purposes, and that cannot perform their intended function while the batteries are being charged, are operated until steady conditions are established by actuating the motor control in cycles. Each cycle comprises– 2,5 s operation from start to full speed;– 5,0 s operation at full speed;– 7,5 s at rest.

with 60335-1.

B.11.1 Modification:

Replace the 1st paragraph (of part 1) by the following:

Battery-operated appliances are tested under the conditions of normal operation, the appliance is operated in cycles, where each cycle comprises: – 2,5 s operation from start to full speed;– 5,0 s operation at full speed– 7,5 s at rest.

Delete in the 3rd paragraph (of part 1), the word “continuously”.

22 DK06 336 B.22.3 ed The addition indicates how to apply test probe 19 but in principle does not call for the actual use of test probe 19. As such an improvement of the text is proposed to ensure a more consistent understanding of the requirement.

Since a more clear text is introduced in cl.

Replace the text in line 336 with the following:

"in addition to the use of test probe 18, test probe 19 of IEC 61032:1997 is also applied as specified for test probe 18."

Accepted


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8.1.1, it is proposed to use the same text here as well.

Also, in cl. 8.1.1 probe 19 is only applied to foot pedals and other parts of appliances that are situated on the floor in normal use while in annex B the application is not limited and therefor apply to all parts of sewing machines.

The DK NC question whether this is an oversight or intended? The text may need to be modified accordingly

See 23

23 US05 336, 338

B.22.3, B.22.4

te Test probe 19 is applicable for foot controllers and other parts used on the floor.

Add the following at the beginning of lines 336 and 338:

For foot pedals and other parts of appliances that are situated on the floor in normal use,

Accepted with the following wording:

For foot pedals and other parts of appliances that are situated on the floor in normal use, in addition to the use of test probe 18, test probe 19 of IEC 61032:1997 is also applied as specified for test probe 18.


Since a more clear text is introduced in cl. 8.1.1, it is proposed to use the same text

Replace the text in line 338 with the following:


Accepted, see 23


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here as well.

DECISION: Proceed to FDIS for fifth edition. For all FDIS where there was no confirmation at the CDV stage regarding the In Some Countries notes, a Note of the Secretary will be included to draw NCs to identify any In Some Countries notes needing to be retained in the next edition.

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20. IEC 60335-2-29: Particular requirements for battery chargers 20a. 61/6203/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6264/INF MT4, Externally accessible surface temperatures Also taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT4)27The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6264A/INF




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Noted.

2 DE01 ge DE-NC in general supports this proposal. Noted.


Noted.

4 US02 ge Input from MT31 is also requested. Noted.

5 CH02 3 1 ed A semicolon or full stop is missing at the end of this dashed item.

Depending on the position, add a semicolon or full stop at the end of this dashed item.

Accepted; Refer to EG1.

6 JP01 3 1. Scope ge In this proposed description, the relationship between "Battery chargers for electric vehicles " and "the standards within the scope of IEC TC 69" in parentheses is not clear.

To change line 3 from– Battery chargers for electric vehicles (standards within the scope of IEC TC 69)to

Accepted





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Therefore, there is a concern that the phrase in parentheses might be ignored by readers, and as a result, it may be misunderstood that all battery chargers for electric vehicles are not covered by 60335-2-29.In fact, many batteries for small electric vehicles, such as two (or three)-wheelers and light four-wheeled vehicles, are mainly charged by household chargers which are not specified in TC69 standards but apply 60335-2-29.From the above, it should not be the charger for electric vehicles that is excluded from 60335-2-29, but it should be the charger covered by the standard issued by TC69.NOTE:The question of whether the battery chargers for electric vehicles should be removed from the scope of IEC 60335-2-29 was previously discussed within TC61, and as a result this statement was deleted in the revision to Ver. 5.0 (It was decided not to exclude it from the scope).(See Annex to this comment sheet. IEC 61851-series are the standards for EV power supply equipment in IEC TC 69.)

– Battery chargers that are covered by the standards already developed by IEC TC 69 (electrically propelled road vehicles), such as IEC 61851-23.

7 NL01 9-14 3.5.104 ed As more and more cars become electric the term “standard automotive battery” causes confusion and distinction should be made between cranking and propulsion (EV battery).

Change “standard automotive batteries” into “automotive cranking battery”

Accepted

8 CH03 12 3.5.104 ed In Clause 3, there are no full stops at the end of the text defining a term.

Delete the full stop at the end of the sentence.

Accepted; refer to EG1

9 AU01 49 te Line 49 and 50 should be reworded as in Delete line 49 and 50 and replace with See 11





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the CDV for 2-59 the following:


10 DE02 49-50 11.8 te The text in these lines seems to be a proposal for IEC 60335-1, not for IEC 60335-2-29 and should not be added in part 2-29.

Delete the text of lines 49 and 50 See 11

11 US01 49-50 11.8 te Battery chargers do not have adjustable vents and air shutters.

Delete lines 49-50 Accepted.








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20b. 61/6204/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6265/INF Australia, Battery chargerThe results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6265A/INF





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1 DE01 ge DE-NC in general supports the proposal Noted

2 ES01 ge The ES NC agrees with the proposal and has no comments.

Noted

3 FI01 ge The Finnish NC wishes to submit the following comments to this proposal.

Noted

4 FI02 1-2 7.1 te It is not necessary to give the types of batteries in product itself. There is not necessarily enough space for this marking on the product. We propose that this information should be given in the instructions.

We propose to transfer this requirement to subclause 7.12.1.

See 6

5 GB01 1-6 7.1 and 7.15

ge The British National Committee recommends referring the proposal to MT31.Additionally, the following should be considered:Does ‘type of battery’ mean the chemistry or the battery model?This requirement should apply only to battery chargers not intended for a specific battery/product.In case the requirement should apply to the battery/product and not to the charger (i.e. which charger to use), consideration needs to be given to the fact that often the ‘charger’ is an external power supply with no charging management.

Refer the proposal to MT31. See 6

6 JP01 1-23-6

7.17.15

te We do not support the proposal for the following reasons.

(1) In the existing Part 2-29, clause 7.12 includes similar adequate requirements as below-underlined, and it is not necessary to add the proposed marking on the appliance.

(2) Battery chargers for small appliances such as shavers have too small






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surface area to mark the addition.

Instructions in the existing Part 2-19:

The instructions for type 1 battery chargers shall also– specify the types, the number of

batteries and the rated capacity of the batteries that can be charged;

– include a warning against recharging non-rechargeable batteries.

The instructions for type 2 battery chargers shall also– specify the batteries intended to be

charged, such as by a catalogue number, series identification or the equivalent;

– specify the ambient temperature range for the charger during charging.

7 JP02 1-3 7.1 te If JP1 is not accepted, we propose a modification to the AU proposal for the following reason.

If the battery charger and the relevant battery are constructed to have specific configuration, such as unique arrangement of contact terminals or a unique shape of connectors, to allow users to charge the battery only in specific combination of the both, the proposed marking is not needed.

Add the underlined text.

7.1 Insert after the seventh dash item of the first paragraph, the following text:– the types of battery that are intended

to be charged by the battery charger, unless the battery charger and the relevant battery are constructed to have specific configuration to charge the battery only in specific combination of the battery charger and the battery

See 6

8 US1 1-6 te This is already covered by paragraphs 2 and 3 of 7.12 and the 6th dashed item of 7.1 where the appliance is marked to instruct the user to read the instructions before using the charger. The use of instructions is adequate and there is no






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need to change these to markings.

9 DE02 2 7.1 ed “type of battery” is unclear. As the proposed requirements are already applicable in the AS/NZS version of IEC 60335-2-29, and experience has shown that Australian test houses accept the marking of the battery chemistry as compliance with this requirement, improvement of the wording is needed.

AU-NC is invited to improve the wording “type of battery”

See 6

10 DE03 2 7.1 te The proposed marking may be necessary and useful for general purpose battery chargers. However, for dedicated chargers for dedicated batteries do not need this marking, because the design protects the wrong combination of the both. Such conditional marking is already introduced, like in the 4th dashed item of scl. 7.1

Add at the end:“, unless it is prohibited by construction that the battery charger can be connected to the wrong type of battery, such as: - recessed terminals, or- electronic authentication procedures, or- non-standard connectors.

See 6

11 DK01 2 7.1 te The DK NC does not believe that providing a marking with the types of batteries to be charged will prevent that some user will attempt to charge a battery that is not intended to be charged as stated in the rationale.

Persons attempting to charge non-rechargeable batteries are not likely to neither notice nor to follow this type of marking.

Additionally, we do not believe that the proposed new marking is sufficiently specific. The term "type of battery" is likely to cause confusion and inconsistencies in the application of the standard and therefore a more detailed and specific requirement would need to be provided.






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12 NL01 2 7.1 ed The term “type of battery” is unclear as it could refer to a model or to type of chemistry

NLNC suggest to use “Model or type reference” analog to the terminology used in IEC 60335-1 ed. 6 Annex B.

Modify as follows:

– Model or type reference of the battery that is intended to be charged by the battery charger.

See 6

13 FI03 4-6 7.15 te We are of the opinion that this kind of marking is not needed. It can be misleading if there are several battery types that are intended to be charged by the battery charger.

We propose to delete lines 4-6. See 6

14 NL02 5-6 7.15 te The term “type of battery” is unclear as it could refer to a model or to type of chemistry

It is also not necessary to have this marking visible while the battery is connected to the charger.

Modify as follows:

The marking of model or type reference of the battery that are intended to be charged by the battery charger shall be visible when the battery charger is being used, as in normal use, but without the battery being connected to the battery charger.

See 6

15 NO01 5-6 7.15 ed Paragraph 2 of 7.15 of part 1 already specifies that marking on the appliance shall be clearly discernible from the outside of the appliance, but that it may be beneath a cover. We assume the intention of the Australian proposal is to not accept this marking to be beneath any cover?

If our assumption is correct, change the text to“The marking concerning the types of battery batteries that are intended to be charged by the battery charger shall not be visible when the battery charger is being used, as in normal use beneath a cover”.

See 6

16 DE04 6 7.15 te It is not necessary to have the marking visible while the battery is connected to the charger.

Add at the end:“, but without the battery to be charged connected to the battery charger.”

See 6

DECISION: Proposal not accepted


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21. IEC 60335-2-30: Particular requirements for room heaters 21a. 61/6205/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6266/INF Germany, Cab caravan heatersThe results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6266A/INF




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2 GB01 te The British National Committee accepts the premise that the dashed item in note 103 should be deleted. However, we do not see the need to link caravan heaters with cab heaters in the text of the standard.

Noted.

3 SE01 ge Requirements for cab heaters was introduced in IEC 60335-2-30 based on EN 50408 which was based on a work from Scandinavian countries. Cab heaters are used only in a few cold countries in order to heat up the driver compartment in temperatures well below 0°C. They are normally switched on by a timer a couple of hours before the driver will entrance the car. The driver will have a temperature of maybe +10°C instead of -20°C when entering the car. Based on this specific use, additional requirements compare to 60335-2-30 is needed.Regarding caravan heaters we believe the situation is more similar to ordinary room heaters to keep the room temperature at pre-determined comfort temperature. There are other 60335 standards for which additional requirements for use in

Noted





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caravans is applied such as 60335-2-24 and we believe that similar approach can be used for heaters intended for caravans.

4 SE02 2-4 1 ed Cab heaters are covered by the paragraph after Note 101 and need not to be included also as a dashed item in Note 101

Replace cab heater in last dashed item in Note 101 with caravan heater.

Accepted

5 SE03 5-7 1 ed No need to introduce caravans, see SE02.

Delete the proposal for modification Accepted to not introduce caravan heaters, but delete in Note 103 the last dashed item.

6 NO01 10 (3.108) ed Sub-clause number is missing Add «3.108» in front of the definition of a «Caravan heater”

Accepted. In addition, it was agreed to have a new requirement to be the last sentence in 7.1 as follows:

Caravan heaters shall be marked with the following:

Caravan heater

7 CH02 13 – 86 7 - 30 ed Wrong formatting of defined term “caravan heater”.

Check and correct formatting of “caravan heater”.

Accepted

8 SE04 11.2 te This specific test corner for cab heaters was developed in order to simulate the space in front of the passenger seat where the cab heater is normally placed, fixed or portable. We are of the opinion that caravan heaters can be tested as ordinary fixed or portable room heaters.

Delete the proposal for modification Accepted

9 SE05 50-51 21.1 te Increased impact test for cab heaters is based on possible rough handling since cab heaters are placed in the area where the passenger place the feet.. We don´t

Not necessary. Delete Accepted





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see the same need for caravan heaters.

10 SE06 62-66 21.106 te See SE05 Not necessary. Delete Accepted

11 NO02 68 22.112 ed Spelling error Change from “21.112” to “22.112”. Accepted


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21b. 61/6206/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6267/INF Germany, Non-rigid suspension for ceiling mounted heatersThe results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6267A/INF




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Noted


Noted

3 AU01 te The Added a definition for arms reach in the standard has no relevance to the user, and added marking requirement is useless as the user / installer won’t know the definition of arms reach as they don’t have the standard

What is the difference if it has rigid or non rigid mounting means?

Strongly reject the DCWe should just specify a minimum install height off the ground.

See 13

4 FI02 ge We are of the opinion that requirements and a relevant test should be added to check the mechanical strength of the non-

We propose that relevant mechanical requirements and tests will be added for the non-rigid suspension means for

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rigid suspension means for ceiling mounting.

ceiling mounting.

5 NO01 ge The rationale seems to miss information regarding which problem this proposal intends to solve.


6 US01 te Non-rigid suspension mounting means may be more susceptible to user modification/substitution. Non-rigid suspended would also be susceptible to swinging, such as during cleaning, which may compromise the mounting hardware attached to the ceiling surface.

Additional requirements to address proper installation instructions (7.12.1) and suitability of the mounting if subjected to forces and swinging motion during cleaning are needed (22.1xx)

See 13

7 DK01 1-20 te This is a new type of appliance not currently covered or foreseen by the existing requirements. For this reason and due to the nature of the shown type of appliance, such new appliance can only be added to the standard with corresponding requirements (if needed) following a risk assessment in accordance with IEC guide 116.Such assessment does not appear to have been carried out.


8 NL01 5-15 3.108 te As the definition is only used once in clause 7.12, there is no need for a definition.

Delete proposal (lines 5-15) See 13

9 US02 5-17 3.108 te There is no point in defining a term that is only used in the text of instructions for the user, since the user will not have access to the defined term. The instructions should instead specify the minimum height above the floor for installation.

Delete the definition. See 13

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6 3.108 te The dimensional requirement specified as “arms reach” should be more precisely defined.

Adopt requirements similar to the example of IEC 60364-4-41 given in the DC

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11 CH02 9 3.108 ed In Clause 3, there are no full stops at the end of the text defining a term.

Delete the full stop at the end of the sentence.

See 13

12 US03 18-22 7.12 ed This should be relocated to 7.12.1 since it is related to installation instructions and modified to specify the minimum height above the floor similar to what is done for heaters for mounting at a high level.

Replace with

7.12.1 Addition:

The installation instructions for heating appliances with non-rigid suspension means for ceiling mounting shall state that the heater must be installed at least 2,5 m above the floor.

See 13

13 CA01 22 7.12 - te Arms reach is only used in a user instruction, which is seen only by the appliance user, so the definition is never seen, nor the term understood.

The CANC recommends incorporating the distance limits directly into 7.12 and deleting the definition.

Delete lines 1 to 15 of the proposal.

Modify line 22 of the proposal as follows:

The heater shall be installed outside arms reach at a minimum height of 2,5 m from the floor and at a minimum distance of 1,25 m in all horizontal directions from the where a person may be located.

Accepted to be added in 7.12.1 with the following wording:The installation instructions for heating appliances with suspension means for ceiling mounting shall state the substance of the following:

The heater shall be installed at a minimum height of 2,3 m from the floor.In addition, in 21.103 modify the requirement as follows:The suspension means for ceiling mounted heating appliances shall have adequate strength.





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14 NL02 22 7.12 te NLNC believes the instructions should detail installation instructions with regards to height as “outside arms reach” is subjective.

Change to:The heater shall be installed at a height of at least 2.5 m above the floor.

See 13

15 NO02 22 7.12 te How can people know what “outside arms reach” means? This will be an individual evaluation.

We propose to change the text to:“The heater shall be installed outside arms reach at least 2,5 m from the floor and at least 1,25 m in all horizontal directions from the locations a person may be”.

See 13


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22. IEC 60335-2-31: Particular requirements for range hoods and other cooking fume extractors 61/6207/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6268/INF TC 61 Secretariat, Marking and instructionsThe results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6268A/INF




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1 DE01 ge The German national committee supports the proposal with the following modification.

Noted


Noted


Noted





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4 US01 6-9 7.1 te The wording for symbol 60417-6030 may make sense when applied to a lamp, but it does not make sense when applied to a range hood. Only the symbol reference number needs to be specified in 7.1.

Range hoods intended to be used with self-shielded tungsten halogen lamps or metal halide lamps only shall be marked with symbol IEC 60417-6030 (2009-11) “To indicate that the tungsten halogen lamp or metal halide lamp can be operated in a luminaire without a protective shield.” or with the substance of the following:

Accepted

5 ES01 7.6 te The ES NC considers that the symbol is not understandable, in fact it seems to say the contrary. In addition, the text for the symbol does not need “To indicate that…”. The same applies to line 7 in subclause 7.1.

Modify the symbol and delete the text “To indicate that…”.

Not accepted

6 US02 14 7.6 te The meaning of the symbol when applied to a range hood is not the same as when it is applied to a lamp. The original wording should be used to align with the text of the warning marking in 7.1.

Keep the original text for the symbol:Use only with self-shielded tungsten halogen lamps or self-shielded metal halide lamps

Accepted

7 DE02 7.12 te If TC61 agrees the proposal for the modification in 7.12, it would make sense to repeat the replacement of the “text” in clause 7.14 and 7.15 of current IEC 60335-2-31, too.

7.14Replace the Addition by the following:The height of symbol IEC 60417-6030 (2009-11) “Use only with self-shielded tungsten halogen lamps or self-shielded metal halide lamps” or Figure 102 symbol “Replace any cracked shield” shall be at least 15 mm.

7.15Replace the second paragraph by the following:

Accepted

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Symbol IEC 60417-6030 (2009-11) “Use only with self-shielded tungsten halogen lamps or self-shielded metal halide lamps” or the marking “Use only with self-shielded tungsten halogen lamps or self-shielded metal halide lamps” shall be visible during replacement of the lamp.

Replace the third paragraph by the following:Figure 102 Symbol “Replace any cracked shield” or the marking “Replace any cracked shield” shall be visible when the appliance is installed as in normal use

Accepted with the following wording: The pictogram of Figure 102 or the marking “Replace any cracked shield” shall be visible when the appliance is installed as in normal use.

DECISION: Proceed to CDV as next edition and to be aligned with 60335-1 ED6

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23. IEC 60335-2-36: Particular requirements for commercial electric cooking ranges, ovens, hobs and hob elements 61/6158/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6281/RVC New EditionAlso taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/JPNC)48, 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT32)56


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3 CH02 17 FOREWORD

ed A full stop is missing at the end of the sentence.

Add a full stop at the end of the sentence.

Accepted


By omitting the wording on DC and battery-operated appliances found in part 1 scope, it seems clear that such appliances are not in scope of this part 2.


However, clause 12 on



or alternatively:

Add DC-supplied and battery-operated appliances to the scope and relevant requirements for battery operated appliances in cl. 11.7 and, if necessary, in B.11.1

Accepted to add a seventh dashed item after line 148 in the scope the following:

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charging of metal-ion batteries has been implemented


5 US01 136 1 ed Household appliances should also be included in the list of products not covered under this standard

Add the following dashed item under line 136:

- stationary cooking ranges, hobs, ovens and similar appliances for household use (IEC 60335-2-6)

portable cooking appliances for household use (IEC 60335-2-9)

Not accepted. The household appliances are already excluded in the scope (line 114);

The listed standards as “not applicable” are related to commercial appliances that are developed for specific application and could be “confused” for example due to the term “oven”

6 CH03 140 1 ed A full stop is missing at the end of the sentence.


Accepted to add a“;” semicolon at the end of line.

7 US02 168 3.1.4 ed This should be Note 101 to entry Note 101 to entry Accepted

8 DE01 217-219 3.1.9 ed 1. The words “in the intended manner” haven’t been deleted as proposed in 61/6078/DC and accepted in the Web Meetings. To align the wording in all parts 2 (for commercial catering equipment) this and the comma behind “use” should be deleted in this part too.

2. The editorial team has added the words “and detachable electrical parts” after “Motors” in other commercial catering equipment parts.

Modify lines 217 - 219 to read as follows:“Motors incorporated in the appliance are operated in the intended manner under the most unfavourable conditions that can be expected in normal use, taking into account the manufacturer's instructions.”

Either add the words “and detachable electrical parts” in parts 2-36, -42, 47,

1. Not accepted. The CDV is already modified accordingly.

2. Accepted with the addition “and detachable electrical





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These words didn’t come out of any DC for commercial catering equipment.These words haven’t been added in the CDVs for parts 2-36, -42, -47, -48, -49. We can’t see a technical reason for this.Either add the words in the above-mentioned standards where the same sentence is included or delete the words in the standards -2-37, -38, -39, -50.

-48, -49 where a similar sentence is included after “Motors”or delete the words in the standards -2-37, -38, -39, -50.

parts” to read as follows:Motors and detachable electrical parts incorporated in the appliance are operated under the most unfavourable conditions that can be expected in normal use taking into account the manufacturer's instructions.

9 CH04 229 3.5.102 ed Improve formulation. Replace “hob elements” with “hob element(s)”.

Not accepted. Sentences with “one or more” require “s” at the end of the subject (not (s)) – see similar sentences in Part 1. In any case, refer to EG1.

10 DE02 232 - 235

3.5.103 te The installation wall is not related to the type of the appliance. For the testing the appliance must be fixed to an installation wall.

Shift this definition to 3.8 as 3.8.101 Accepted.

10 bis

MT32 270 - 277

3.6.108, 3.6.109

ed These terms are in 3.8 of the MT32 CDV’s Renumber as 3.8.102 and 3.8.103 Not accepted. For coherence with Part 1 where accessible parts are defined in 3.6.3 this definition will remain in 3.6.108 and 3.6.109.

10 MT32 281 5.101 ed Considering that this standard can be applied to electrical part of appliances

Appliances are tested as heating appliances even if they incorporate a

Accepted with the





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ter making use of other forms of energy (e.g. gas catering equipment), in this way it will be clearer that in case of gas appliances equipped with electrical motor (e.g. for lifting / tilting system) they shall be tested as motor operated appliances

motor when during a mode of operation electrical heaters are energized. If no electrical heaters are energized the appliances are tested as motor appliances.

following wording: Appliances are tested as heating appliances when during a mode of operation electrical heaters are energized. If no electrical heaters are energized the appliances are tested as motor appliances.

11 CH05 342, 343, 345, 351, 352

7.12 ed As exception, parts of text required by 7.12 to be provided in the instructions need not to be formatted in bold, even when being defined terms (in general, users of appliances do not have access to standards, hence they do not know the meaning of formatting of words).

Format “hob surface”, “cooking zones”, “hob surface”, “hob element” and “pan detector” in roman, not in bold.

Refer to EG1.

12 CH06 348 7.12 ed Improve formulation. Delete “with” before “the manufacturer”.

Refer to EG1

13 DK02 8 & 20.2 te According to 61/6098A/INF, it was decided that test probe 18 shall not apply to appliances covered by this standard. No changes have however been made in cl. 8 and in cl. 20.2 to exclude test probe 18 and so it will be required based on the part 1.

Modify the standard to exclude test probe 18 in cl. 8 and in cl. 20.2

Comment withdrawn by DK NC during the meeting.



accessible surfaces b

with

Temperature rise limits of external accessible surfaces b

Not accepted.The title is consistent with other Part 2 standards and with the format of Tables 3 and 9

15 CH08 561 11.8 Footnote a of

ed A semicolon is missing at the end of the third dashed item.

Add a semicolon at the end of the third dashed item.

Accepted





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Table 101

15bis

MT32 407 11.8 Footnote b of Table 101

ed In the second line there is a superfluous comma after “… the appliance”.

In the second line, delete the comma after “… the appliance”.

Accepted

16 DK03 595-601 15.1.1 te Following up on the previous DK comment (DK01 in 61/6100A/INF) about the position of height-adjustable feet and the response from TC61:The explanation from TC61 is that the intent is to splash against the side of the appliance enclosure. However, the IP-test corresponding with the IP classification of the appliance (e.g. IPX4) will already be taking care of this and therefor in our opinion this is not the intent of the splash test.

Instead, we believe that the intent of the splash test is to simulate water that might splash from the floor during cleaning could reach underneath the appliance and into the appliance that way. If not, there is nothing to mitigate the risks from water splashing into the appliance from underneath in real use.

Therefor in our opinion the worst-case situation is when the feet are adjusted to the highest setting, leaving the largest opening between the floor and the bottom of the appliance.

Modify line 595 so that it reads:

"and adjustable feet shall be set at the maximum height in accordance with the instruction for use."

In line 597 and in line 601 delete the part that reads "the sides of"

Accepted with the following modification to line 595:

“and adjustable feet shall be set in accordance with the instruction for use to the most unfavourable height.”

Replace lines 596 to 599 with the following: “For appliances normally used on the floor, the bowl is placed on the floor and is moved around in such a way as to splash the appliance from all the directions. During the test, the water pressure is so regulated that the water splashes up 150 mm above the bottom of the bowl. The bowl is not positioned underneath the





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appliance.”

Replace the text in line 601 to 603: “For all other appliances, the bowl is placed on the same plane where the appliance is placed and is moved around in such a way as to splash the appliance from all directions. During the test, the water pressure is so regulated that the water splashes up to 100 mm above the bottom of the bowl. The bowl is not positioned underneath the appliance.”

17 SA01 595 15.1.1 Paragraph 2

The apparatus shown in Figure 103 is used. The appliance is placed in normal position of use 594 and adjustable feet shall be set at minimum level in accordance with the instruction for use.

15.1.1 The apparatus shown in Figure 103 is used. The appliance is placed in normal position of use 594 and adjustable feet shall be set at maximum level in accordance with the instruction for use.

See 16

18 DE03 635 - 656

15.101 ed The accepted changes from the DC were not included.

In last sentence of the test specifications introduce a comma (,) after the word “appliances”

Not accepted

19 DK04 692 18.102 ed The agreed upon change has not been implemented.


"subjected to a spillage test using 2 (−0 +0,1) l of cold water between 10 °C and 15 °C, poured steadily"

Not accepted, based on the IEC Directives, which do not use a “minus” or “plus” sign before zero.





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20 DE04 695 - 696

18.102 ed The accepted changes from the DC were not included.

In last sentences of the test specifications remove the comma (,).

Accepted

20bis

MT32 700; 702;703;704

19.1 ed Remove “strikethrough” from the sentences

Accepted to keep the existing text in 19.1 in 60335-2-36 ED 6 2017 and add the following:

A control or switching device that is intended for different settings corresponding to different functions of the same part of the appliance is in addition set in the most unfavourable setting irrespective of the manufacturer's instructions.

21 DE05 after 730

19.11.2 ed In 61/6078/DC the idea was to shift the requirement of 19.11.2 to 22.110 + 22.111 due to in short: simplification of EMC tests. The decision (see page 95f. of: “Daily Report Compilation for TC 61 Web Meetings/ 61(2020Web/Secretariat)123”) on comment 16 was to delete the lines 232 to 255. The proposal in 61/6078/DC line 186 to delete 19.11.2 was accepted as there were no comments given on this line.In consequence 19.11.2 as well as 22.110 + 22.111 have been deleted by mistake.

Add the following:

“19.11.2 Addition:

During simulation of the fault conditions, it shall be possible to switch off any energized hob element.

The fault conditions are also simulated with all hob elements switched off, the appliance being supplied at rated voltage. If a pan detector is incorporated, a suitable vessel is placed on the cooking zone.The hob elements shall not become energized.”

Accepted





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So, the requirement of 19.11.2 in the existing standard is missing and must be reinstalled.

22 DE06 792 21.101 ed The accepted changes from the DC were not completely included. The word “of” is missing.

Modify the text so that it reads: … mass of 40 kg …

Accepted

23 DE07 799 21.101 ed Part 36 shall be aligned to part 42 “commercial electric forced convection ovens, steam cookers and steam-convection ovens” not to part 6.In consequence, the line shall be modified in the following manner:shelf. During this test the shelf shall not tip beyond and angle of 6 degrees by more than 10 ° to the horizontal.800 NOTE A small angle of deflection is allowed.

Modify line 799 as follows:“shelf. During this test the shelf shall not tip by more than 10 ° to the horizontal.”

Accepted

24 DE08 824 22.54 ed This requirement has been integrated in part 1 Ed.5.1. In part 36 Ed.6.0 it was excluded by “not applicable”. Why this has been done is not traceable. In all other commercial catering parts 22.54 of part 1 it is still valid. To align it with the other commercial catering parts delete “not applicable”.

Delete line 824. Accepted

25 DE09 825 22.55 ed This requirement has been integrated in part 1 Ed.5.1. In part 36 Ed.6.0 it was excluded by “not applicable”. Why this has been done is not traceable. In all other commercial catering parts 22.55 of part 1 it is still valid. To align it with the other commercial catering parts delete “not applicable”.


26 DK05 829-831 22.101 te The existing Note has been converted to normative text. However, the note is purely informative in nature and does not

Delete the sentence starting in line 829-831 and reinstate the NOTE

Accepted to delete the sentence in lines 829-831 and





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contain any requirements and is intended to explain the meaning of "trip free type".

Since this is explanatory and does not contain any requirements, it should not be part of the normative requirement but remain as a note. Alternatively, a reference to the defined term in IEC 60730 may be given instead.

Or


NOTE a definition of "trip free" is given in IEC 60730-1:2013 including IEC 60730-1:2013/AMD1:2015

reinstate the following Note after line 838 in the CDV:

Trip-free is an automatic action that is independent of manipulation or position of the actuating member.

27 DE10 912-921 25.3 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted except of the following wording: “Delete ‘power’ before ‘supply cord’” In the CDV it was completely rewritten by the editorial group. That was done also for part -2-37 and other commercial catering parts but with an additional paragraph (see DENC-comment on 25.3 on 61/6159/CDV) Text of 61/6078/DC:“Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance.If the appliance is provided with a set of terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, they shall be suitable for the type X attachment of the cord.In both cases, the instructions shall give full particulars of the power supply cord.The connection to the supply wires of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.”

Text of the CDV:“Terminals for permanent connection of

To align part 2-36 with 2-37 and the other commercial catering equipment modify lines 912-921 to read as follows:“The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance.If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”

Accepted





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cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance. If the appliance is provided with a set of terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, they shall be suitable for the type X attachment of the cord. In both cases, the instructions shall give full particulars of the supply cord. The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”The cord anchorage isn’t anymore a requirement.


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24. IEC 60335-2-37: Particular requirements for commercial electric doughnut fryers and deep fat fryers 61/6159/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6282/RVC New EditionAlso taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT32)57The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6282A/RVC





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Noted




3 CH02 4, 18 FOREWORD



Accepted




However, clause 12 on charging of metal-ion batteries has been



or alternatively:


Accepted to add a fourth dashed item after line 139 in the scope the following:







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implemented Likewise, annex B from part

1 has not been deleted.


Add the following dashed item under line 135:deep fat fryers for household use (IEC 60335-2-13)

Not accepted. The household appliances are already excluded in the scope in line 118.

6 CH03 139 1 ed A full stop is missing at the end of the sentence.


Accepted

7 DE01 168-170 3.1.9 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted but hasn’t been integrated in the CDV.The editorial team has added the words “and detachable electrical parts” after “Motors”. These words didn’t come out of any DC for commercial catering equipment.These words haven’t been added in the CDVs for parts 2-36, -42, -47, -48, -49. We can’t see a technical reason for this.Either add the words in the above-mentioned standards where the same sentence is included or delete the words in the standards -2-37, -38, -39, -50.

Modify lines 168 - 170 to read as follows:Motors incorporated in the appliance are operated in the intended manner under the most severe unfavourable conditions that can be expected in normal use taking into account the manufacturer's instructions.

Either add the words “and detachable electrical parts” in parts 2-36, -42, -47, -48, -49 where a similar sentence is included after “Motors”or delete the words in the standards -2-37, -38, -39, -50.

Accepted with the addition “and detachable electrical parts” to read as follows:Motors and detachable electrical parts incorporated in the appliance are operated under the most unfavourable conditions that can be expected in normal use taking into account the manufacturer's instructions.

8 DK02 168-169 3.1.9 ed The agreed upon change to delete "in the intended manner" has not been implemented

In line 168-169 delete "in the intended manner":

"....appliance are operated in the intended manner under the most..."

See 7

9 DK03 168 3.1.9 te The addition "and detachable electrical parts" was not included in the original

Explain the origin of this addition and Noted. Examples of





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proposal (61/6079/DC) or agreed during the meeting (61/6199A/INF), so it is not understood where the addition originate.

It recognized that the term is already used in the existing standard, but it is not known what "detachable electrical parts" actually means. Despite the bold font, the term is not defined.

propose a definition of the term "detachable electrical parts"

detachable electrical parts are probes for measuring temperature at the core of the food being cooked or motorized baskets.

10 US02 197-204 3.8.103, 3.8.104

ed These should be relocated to 3.6 Add the following heading and renumber these as 3.6.101 and 3.6.1023.6 Definitions relating to parts of an appliance3.6.1013.6.102

Accepted

10 bis

MT32 281 5.101 ed Considering that this standard can be applied to electrical part of appliances making use of other forms of energy (e.g. gas catering equipment), in this way it will be clearer that in case of gas appliances equipped with electrical motor (e.g. for lifting / tilting system) they shall be tested as motor operated appliances

Appliances are tested as heating appliances even if they incorporate a motor when during a mode of operation electrical heaters are energized. If no electrical heaters are energized the appliances are tested as motor appliances.

Accepted with the following wording: Appliances are tested as heating appliances when during a mode of operation electrical heaters are energized. If no electrical heaters are energized the appliances are tested as motor appliances.

11 US03 240 7.1 ed Indent the marking text Indent line 240 Accepted

12 US04 241 7.6 ed Caution should be lower case caution, hot surface Accepted

13 US05 252-254 7.12 ed Indent the instruction text Indent lines 252-254 Accepted

14 DE02 266-267 7.12 ed To align the wording with part -2-36 the wording shall be modified.

Modify lines 266 - 267 to read as follows:

Accepted





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“If any of symbols IEC 60417-5021 (2002-10) or IEC 60417-5041 (2002-10) are marked on the appliance, its meaning shall be explained.”

15 US06 285-287 7.12.1 ed Even with the use of commas, this requirement does not read clearly. Restructure editorially for clarity and bold stationary appliances

Unless the appliance or part is intended to be partially or completely immersed in water for cleaning, the instructions for appliances with detachable electrical parts and appliances, other than stationary appliances, shall state that the appliance or part must not be immersed.

Accepted




17 DE03 386-387 11.4 ed Grammatically incorrect. Modify lines 386 - 387 to read as follows:“temperature rises of the components for which the temperature rise limits were exceeded are measured.”

Accepted

18 US07 387 11.4 ed Typo measured. See 17







20 CH05 407 11.8 Footnote a of Table 101



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21 CH06 407 11.8 Footnote b of Table 101



Accepted

22 US08 422-426 15.1 (15.102)

ed This addition to 15.1 is not necessary since 15.101 includes its own requirement and compliance criteria. Instead this content should be included in 15.102 as proposed for -2-39 in 61/6161/CDV.

Delete lines 422-426 and update 15.102 as follows: 15.102 Appliances or detachable electrical parts intended to be partially or completely immersed in water for cleaning shall have adequate protection against the effects of immersion.

This requirement also applies to appliances other than stationary or any detachable electrical parts not marked with a line indicating the maximum depth of immersion, or for which there is no warning against partial or complete immersion in the instructions.

Accepted

23 DK05 431-437 15.1.1 te Following up on the previous DK comment (DK01 in 61/6100A/INF) about the position of height-adjustable feet and the response from TC61:The explanation from TC61 is that the intent is to splash against the side of the appliance enclosure. However, the IP-test corresponding with the IP classification of the appliance (e.g., IPX4) will already be taking care of this and therefor in our opinion this is not the intent of the splash test.

Instead, we believe that the intent of the splash test is to simulate water that might splash from the floor during cleaning could reach underneath the appliance and into the appliance that way. If not, there is






Replace lines 432 to 435 with the following: “For appliances normally





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nothing to mitigate the risks from water splashing into the appliance from underneath in real use.


used on the floor, the bowl is placed on the floor and is moved around in such a way as to splash the appliance from all the directions. During the test, the water pressure is so regulated that the water splashes up 150 mm above the bottom of the bowl. The bowl is not positioned underneath the appliance.”

Replace the text in line 436 to 439: “For all other appliances, the bowl is placed on the same plane where the appliance is placed and is moved around in such a way as to splash the appliance from all directions. During the test, the water pressure is so regulated that the water splashes up to 100 mm above the bottom of the bowl. The bowl is not positioned underneath the





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appliance.”

24 SA01 431 15.1.1 Paragraph 2



See 23

25 DE04 498-500 19.1 ed To align the wording with other commercial catering parts (see part 2-36 …) exchange “severe” by “unfavourable”.

Modify lines 498 - 500 to read as follows:“A control or switching device that is intended for different settings corresponding to different functions of the same part of the appliance is in addition set in the most severe unfavourable setting irrespective of the manufacturer's instructions.”

Accepted

26 CH07 504 19.1 NOTE 101 ed Since the text of NOTE 101 is converted to normative text, NOTE 101 is to be deleted.

Format NOTE 101 in strikethrough. See 27

27 DE05 504 19.1 ed The note hasn’t been deleted by mistake Delete line 504 Accepted

28 DE06 522 19.13 ed The limiting of the temperature only makes sense for the first part of the test in 19.2 (19.2 a) ) and 19.3.

Modify line 522 to read as follows:“During the first part of the test in 19.2 and 19.3 the temperature….”

Accepted with the following wording to be refined by EG1:During the tests of 19.2 a) and 19.3 when carried out under the specification of 19.2 a), the temperature…

29 DK06 551-553 22.101 te Existing Note has been converted to normative text. However, the note is purely informative in nature and does not contain any requirements and is intended

Delete the sentence starting in line 551-553 and reinstate the NOTE

or

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to explain the meaning of "trip free type".




following Note after line 560 in the CDV:


30 DK07 622-624 22.110 te The text "This requirement is met if they are placed in a recess such that they cannot be withdrawn by means of test probe B of IEC 61032:1997 using a single action" has not been contained in the original proposal 61/6079/DC or otherwise discussed. It is also not a part of converting the note to normative text.

Therefor the text cannot be included without a separate proposal and associated technical discussions. In addition, the text does not appear to be technically correct.

Delete the last sentence from line 622-624

Accepted

31 US09 621, 624

22.110 te Due to 5.21 in the Part 1, where no force is specified, a test probe is to be applied with 1 N force. It is recommended that the 10 N force specified in IEC 61032 be used here.

Add the following at the end of lines 621 and 624:‘with a force of 10 N’

Accepted to be added at the end of line 621

32 DE07 670-671 22.121 te The requirement: “Thermal controls shall not be incorporated in connectors complying with the standard sheets of IEC 60320-3 or IEC 60309-2.”was not in the DC. Where does it come from?Thermal controls incorporated in

Delete lines 670-671. See 33





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connectors are not used in commercial catering equipment.The new requirement was integrated in parts -2-37, -38, -39, -48, -49, -50 but not integrated in parts 2-36, -42, -47. Why not in these parts too if the requirement is considered reasonable for commercial catering equipment?

33 DK08 670-671 22.121 te This content is assumed to stem from the deleted content in cl. 24.101 (line 698). However, the content in 24.101 was more restrictive than the proposed change as it applied to all connectors and not only those complying with the standard sheets of 60320-3 or 60309-2 as is now proposed.

As such this constitute a technical change and will require a separate proposal and cannot be supported

Modify line 670-671 so that it reads:

"22.121 Thermal controls shall not be incorporated in connectors"

Accepted. The same requirement shall be included in 2-36, 2-42 and 2-47. Referred to EG1 to verify these updates.

34 DE08 708-727 25.3 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted except of the following wording: “Delete ‘power’ before ‘supply cord’” In the CDV it was completely rewritten by the editorial group.Text of 61/6079/DC:“Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance.If the appliance is provided with a set of terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, they shall be suitable for the type X attachment of the cord.

To align part 2-37 with 2-36, 2-38 and the other commercial catering equipment parts modify lines 708 - 727 to read as follows:“The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance.If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state

Accepted





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In both cases, the instructions shall give full particulars of the power supply cord.The connection to the supply wires of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.”

Text of the CDV:“The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.Appliances intended to be permanently connected to fixed wiring that are provided with cord anchorage and a set of terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, shall allow the connection of the flexible cord after the appliance has been installed in accordance with the instructions. Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance. If the appliance is provided with a set of terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, they shall be suitable for the type X attachment of the cord. In both cases, the instructions shall give full particulars of the supply cord. The connection to the supply wires of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed. If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”

Lines 710 - 713 are very similar to the existing lines 704 - 707 in the current

the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”





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standard. In lines 710 - 713 the cord anchorage isn’t anymore a requirement. The meaning of the text has been twisted.

35 CH08 839 Bibliography ed Wrong format of headline. Format “Bibliography” as bold headline.

Not accepted. In the published standard it is not bolded; EG1 to verify.


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25. IEC 60335-2-38: Particular requirements for commercial electric griddles and griddle grills 61/6160/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6283/RVC New EditionAlso taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT32)58The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6283A/RVC




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Noted


Suggest to add the following words for clarityThis part 2 is to be used in conjunction with the latest edition of IEC 60335-1 and its amendments unless that edition precludes it; in that case, the






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latest edition that does not preclude it is used. It was established on the basis of the sixth edition (2020) of that standard.








or alternatively:


Accepted to add a sixth dashed item after line 143 in the scope the following:




Add the following dashed item under line 137:portable cooking appliances for household use (IEC 60335-2-9)


5 DE01 179-181 3.1.9 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted but Modify lines 179 - 181 to read as Accepted with the addition “and





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hasn’t been integrated in the CDV.The editorial team has added the words “and detachable electrical parts” after “Motors”. These words didn’t come out of any DC for commercial catering equipment.These words haven’t been added in the CDVs for parts 2-36, -42, -47, -48, -49. We can’t see a technical reason for this.Either add the words in the above-mentioned standards where the same sentence is included or delete the words in the standards -2-37, -38, -39, -50.

follows:Motors and detachable electrical parts incorporated in the appliance are operated in the intended manner under the most unfavourable conditions that can be expected in normal use taking into account the manufacturer's instructions.Either add the words “and detachable electrical parts” in parts 2-36, -42, -47, -48, -49 where a similar sentence is included after “Motors”or delete the words in the standards -2-37, -38, -39, -50.

detachable electrical parts” to read as follows:Motors and detachable electrical parts incorporated in the appliance are operated under the most unfavourable conditions that can be expected in normal use taking into account the manufacturer's instructions.




See 5

7 DK03 179 3.1.9 te The addition "and detachable electrical parts" was not included in the original proposal (61/6181/DC) or agreed during the meeting (61/6101A/INF), so it is not understood where the addition originate.

It recognized that the term is already used in the existing standard but it is not known what "detachable electrical parts" actually means. Despite the bold font, the term is not defined.

Explain the origin of this addition and propose a definition of the term "detachable electrical parts"

Noted. Examples of detachable electrical parts are probes for measuring temperature at the core of the food being cooked or removable heating elements.

8 US02 200-207 3.8.102, 3.8.103

ed These should be relocated to 3.6 Renumber these as 3.6.102 and 3.6.103

Accepted

8 bis

MT32 281 5.101 ed Considering that this standard can be applied to electrical part of

Appliances are tested as heating appliances even if they incorporate






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appliances making use of other forms of energy (e.g. gas catering equipment), in this way it will be clearer that in case of gas appliances equipped with electrical motor (e.g. for lifting / tilting system) they shall be tested as motor operated appliances

a motor when during a mode of operation electrical heaters are energized. If no electrical heaters are energized the appliances are tested as motor appliances.

Appliances are tested as heating appliances when during a mode of operation electrical heaters are energized. If no electrical heaters are energized the appliances are tested as motor appliances.


10 DE02 250-251 7.12 ed To align the wording with part -2-36 and -2-37 the wording shall be modified.

Modify lines 250 - 251 to read as follows:“If any of symbols IEC 60417-5021 (2002-10) or IEC 60417-5041 (2002-10) are marked on the appliance, its meaning shall be explained.”

Accepted




Accepted

13 US06 305 7.15 ed The comma after use was deleted but is needed to separate the qualifying phrase.

appliance and, if not visible when the appliance is installed as in normal use, shall be included

Accepted

14 DK04 8 & 20.2 te According to 61/6100A/INF, it was decided that test probe 18 shall not apply to appliances covered by this standard. No changes have however been made in cl. 8 and in cl. 20.2 to exclude test probe







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18 and so it will be required based on the part 1.


Accepted










Accepted

18 DE04 437-443 15.1 ed Though 61/6080/DC proposed no change and there was no comment on this clause int the web-meeting 2020, the clause was completely modified to convert the note into normative text.MT32 tried hard to align the wording in all commercial catering equipment-parts 2.

To align the wording with the other commercial catering equipment-parts 2 modify lines 437 - 443 to read as follows:15.1 Addition: Any detachable electrical parts or appliances, other than stationary appliances, not marked with a line indicating the maximum depth of immersion for cleaning, or for which there is no warning against partial or complete immersion in water for cleaning in the instructions, are also subjected to the tests of 15.102.

See 19

19 US07 437-443 15.1 (15.102)

ed This addition to 15.1 is not necessary since 15.101 includes its own requirement and compliance criteria. Instead this content should be included in 15.102 as proposed for -2-39 in 61/6161/CDV.

Delete lines 437-443 and modify 15.102 as follows: 15.102 Appliances or detachable electrical parts intended to be partially or completely immersed in water for cleaning shall have adequate

Accepted





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protection against the effects of immersion.

This requirement also applies to appliances other than stationary or any detachable electrical parts not marked with a line indicating the maximum depth of immersion, or for which there is no warning against partial or complete immersion in the instructions.

20 DK05 448-455 15.1.1 te Following up on the previous DK comment (DK01 in 61/6100A/INF) about the position of height-adjustable feet and the response from TC61:The explanation from TC61 is that the intent is to splash against the side of the appliance enclosure. However, the IP-test corresponding with the IP classification of the appliance (e.g. IPX4) will already be taking care of this and therefor in our opinion this is not the intent of the splash test.








Replace lines 449 to 451 with the following: “For appliances normally used on the floor, the bowl is placed on the floor and is moved around in such a way as to splash the appliance from all the directions. During the test, the water pressure is so regulated that the





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water splashes up 150 mm above the bottom of the bowl. The bowl is not positioned underneath the appliance.”


21 SA01 448 15.1.1 Paragraph 2



See 20

22 DK06 602-604 22.101 te Existing Note 1 has been converted to normative text. However, the note is purely informative in nature and does not contain any requirements and is intended to explain the meaning of "trip free type".

Delete the sentence starting in line 602-604 and reinstate Note 1 as NOTE

or

Accepted to delete the sentence in lines 602-604 and reinstate the following Note after





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line 611 in the CDV:


23 DE05 637-639 22.105 te The requirement: “Thermal controls shall not be incorporated in connectors complying with the standard sheets of IEC 60320-3 or IEC 60309-2.”was not in the DC. Where does it come from?Thermal controls incorporated in connectors are not used in commercial catering equipment.The new requirement was integrated in parts -2-37, -38, -39, -48, -49, -50 but not integrated in parts 2-36, -42, -47. Why not in these parts too if the requirement is considered reasonable for commercial catering equipment?






Accepted. The same requirement shall be included in 2-36, 2-42 and 2-47. Referred to EG1 to verify these updates.

25 DE06 670-679 25.3 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted To align part 2-38 with 2-37, 2-36 and Accepted





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except of the following wording: “Delete ‘power’ before ‘supply cord’” In the CDV it was completely rewritten by the editorial group. That was done also for part -2-37 but with an additional paragraph (see DENC-comment on 25.3 on 61/6159/CDV) Text of 61/6080/DC:“Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance.If the appliance is provided with a set of terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, they shall be suitable for the type X attachment of the cord.In both cases, the instructions shall give full particulars of the power supply cord.The connection to the supply wires of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.”

Text of the CDV:“The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance. If the appliance is provided with a set of terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, they shall be suitable for the type X attachment of the cord. In both cases, the instructions shall give full particulars of the supply cord. If the appliance uses a type X

the other commercial catering equipment modify lines 670 - 679 to read as follows:“The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance.If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”





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attachment the instructions shall state the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”

The cord anchorage isn’t anymore a requirement.

DECISION: Proceed to FDIS for sixth edition. For all FDIS where there was no confirmation at the CDV stage regarding the In Some Countries notes, a Note of the Secretary will be included to draw NCs to identify any In Some Countries notes needing to be retained in the next edition.

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26. IEC 60335-2-39: Particular requirements for commercial electric multi-purpose cooking pans 61/6161/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6284/RVCNew EditionAlso taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT32)59The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6284A/RVC




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Noted









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or alternatively:

Add DC-supplied and battery-operated

appliances to the scope and relevant requirements for battery operated appliances in cl. 11.7 and, if necessary, in B.11.1

Accepted to add a fifth dashed item after line 144 in the scope the following:





- frying pans for household use (IEC 60335-2-13)

cooking pans and steam cookers for household use (IEC 60335-2-15)


5 DE01 174-176 3.1.9 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted but has been integrated only partly in the CDV.The editorial team has added the words “and detachable electrical parts” after

Modify lines 174 - 176 to read as follows:Motors and detachable electrical parts incorporated in the appliance are operated in the intended manner

Accepted with the addition “and detachable electrical parts” to read as follows:





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“Motors”. These words didn’t come out of any DC for commercial catering equipment.These words haven’t been added in the CDVs for parts 2-36, -42, -47, -48, -49. We can’t see a technical reason for this.Either add the words in the above-mentioned standards where the same sentence is included or delete the words in the standards -2-37, -38, -39, -50.

under the most unfavourable conditions that can be expected in normal use taking into account the manufacturer's instructions.Either add the words “and detachable electrical parts” in parts 2-36, -42, -47, -48, -49 where a similar sentence is included after “Motors”or delete the words in the standards -2-37, -38, -39, -50.

Motors and detachable electrical parts incorporated in the appliance are operated under the most unfavourable conditions that can be expected in normal use taking into account the manufacturer's instructions.




See 5

7 DK03 174 3.1.9 te The addition "and detachable electrical parts" was not included in the original proposal (61/6181/DC) or agreed during the meeting (61/6101A/INF), so it is not understood where the addition originate.

It recognized that the term is already used in the existing standard but it is not known what "detachable electrical parts" actually means. Despite the bold font, the term is not defined.

Explain the origin of this addition and propose a definition of the term "detachable electrical parts"

Noted. Examples of detachable electrical parts are probes for measuring temperature at the core of the food being cooked or stirrers.

8 US02 197-204 3.8.103, 3.8.104


Accepted

8 MT32 217 5.101 ed Considering that this standard can be Appliances are tested as heating Accepted with the





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bis applied to electrical part of appliances making use of other forms of energy (e.g. gas catering equipment), in this way it will be clearer that in case of gas appliances equipped with electrical motor (e.g. for lifting / tilting system) they shall be tested as motor operated appliances

appliances even if they incorporate a motor when during a mode of operation electrical heaters are energized. If no electrical heaters are energized the appliances are tested as motor appliances.

following wording: Appliances are tested as heating appliances when during a mode of operation electrical heaters are energized. If no electrical heaters are energized the appliances are tested as motor appliances.


10 DE02 246-247 7.12 ed To align the wording with the other commercial catering equipment parts the wording shall be modified.


Accepted




Accepted

13 DK04 8 & 20.2 te According to 61/6101A/INF, it was decided that test probe 18 shall not apply to appliances covered by this standard. However, no changes have been made in cl. 8 and in cl. 20.2 to exclude test probe 18 and so it will be required based on the part 1







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14 CH02 353, 354

11.3 ed Wrong formatting. Format “accessible surfaces” in bold and italic (two times).

Accepted


Accepted










Accepted

18 DE04 408-414 15.1 ed Though 61/6081/DC proposed no change and there was no comment on this clause int the web-meeting 2020, the clause was completely deleted. Presumably the text should have been replaced by that of Part 37, in which the note has been converted into normative text.

Modify lines 408 - 414 to read as follows:15.1 Addition: Any detachable electrical parts or appliances, other than stationary appliances, not marked with a line indicating the maximum depth of immersion for cleaning, or for which there is no warning against partial or complete immersion in water for cleaning in the instructions, are also subjected to the tests of 15.102.

Not accepted.

19 DK05 419-425 15.1.1 te Following up on the previous DK comment (DK02 in 61/6101A/INF) about the position of height-adjustable feet and the response from TC61:The explanation from TC61 is that the intent is to splash against the side of the appliance enclosure. However, the IP-test corresponding with the IP classification of



In line 421 and in line 425 delete the


“and adjustable feet shall be set in





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the appliance (e.g. IPX4) will already be taking care of this and therefor in our opinion this is not the intent of the splash test.



part that reads "the sides of" accordance with the instruction for use to the most unfavourable height.”

Replace lines 420 to 423 with the following: “For appliances normally used on the floor, the bowl is placed on the floor and is moved around in such a way as to splash the appliance from all the directions. During the test, the water pressure is so regulated that the water splashes up 150 mm above the bottom of the bowl. The bowl is not positioned underneath the appliance.”

Replace the text in line 424 to 427: “For all other appliances, the bowl is placed on the same plane where the appliance is placed and is moved around in such a way as to splash the appliance from all directions.





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During the test, the water pressure is so regulated that the water splashes up to 100 mm above the bottom of the bowl. The bowl is not positioned underneath the appliance.”

20 SA01 419 15.1.1 Paragraph 2



See 19

21 DE05 501-503 19.1 ed To align the wording with other commercial catering parts (see part 2-36 …) delete the comma behind addition.

Modify lines 501 - 503 to read as follows:“A control or switching device that is intended for different settings corresponding to different functions of the same part of the appliance is in addition, set in the most unfavourable setting irrespective of the manufacturer's instructions.”

Accepted

22 DE06 517-518 20.2 ed The (admittedly somewhat unclear) proposal of the DC was accepted but hasn’t been integrated in the CDV.

Modify lines 517 - 518 to read as follows:“The requirement concerning moving parts of the appliance does not apply to parts necessary to implement the tilting operation such as handles or hand-wheels.This applies also to parts necessary to perform the tilting movement, i.e. handles or handwheels.”

Accepted with the following wording:Add the following after the first paragraph in the requirement.This applies also to parts necessary to perform the tilting movement, i.e. handles or handwheels.





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23 US06 522 20.101 te Due to 5.21 in Part 1, where no force is specified, a test probe is to be applied with 1 N force. It is recommended that the 5 N force from 20.2 of Part 1 be used.


‘with a force of 5 N’

Accepted




or



Accepted to delete the sentence in lines 544-546 and reinstate the following Note after line 553 in the CDV:




26 DK07 613-614 22.115 te This content is assumed to stem from the deleted content in cl. 24.101 (line 823). However, the content in 24.101 was more restrictive than the proposed change as it



Accepted. The same requirement shall be included in 2-36, 2-42 and 2-47. EG1





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applied to all connectors and not only those complying with the standard sheets of 60350-3 or 60309-2 as is now proposed.


will manage these updates.

27 DE08 646-659 25.3 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted. In the CDV it was completely rewritten by the editorial group. That was done also for part -2-37 and -38 (see DENC-comment on 25.3 on 61/6159/CDV) and without the 3rd paragraph for part -2-38)Text of 61/6081/DC:“Delete the comma in the second paragraph ‘In this case, a chord anchorage …’Delete the last sentence: ‘Compliance is checked by inspection.’ “

Text of the CDV:“The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.Appliances intended to be permanently connected to fixed wiring that are provided with cord anchorage and a set of terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, shall allow the connection of the flexible cord after the appliance has been installed in accordance with the instructions.Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance. If the appliance is provided with a set of

To align part 2-39 with 2-37, 2-38 and the other commercial catering equipment parts modify lines 646 - 659 to read as follows:“The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance.If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”

Accepted





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terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, they shall be suitable for the type X attachment of the cord. In both cases, the instructions shall give full particulars of the supply cord. If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”

Lines 648 - 651 are very similar to the existing lines 642 - 645 in the current standard. In lines 648 - 651 the cord anchorage isn’t anymore a requirement. The meaning of the text has been twisted.



Not accepted. In the published standard it is not bolded; EG1 to verify.


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27. IEC 60335-2-41: Particular requirements for pumps 27a. 61/6208/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6269/INF MT4, Externally accessible surface temperatures Also taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT4)28The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6269A/INF





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Comments Proposed change Observations of the Secretariat


Noted

2 FR01 ge Support the proposal with the following comments below.

Noted


Noted

4 DK01 7, 17, 52

8.1.1 ed The definition used is not correct. The defined term is "vertical wet pit pump"

This comment also applies to line 17 and 52

Correct the defined term to read:

"vertical wet pit pump"

Accepted

5 FR02 15-24 8.1.3 te 8.1.3 doesn’t apply to pumps.It’s a redundancy of the addition for §8.1.1.

Delete the lines Accepted

6 US01 15-24 8.1.3 te Test probe 18 is not used for accessibility of visibly glowing heating elements. Only test probe 41 is applied in 8.1.3. In addition, it is not likely that the products listed would have visibly glowing heating elements.


7 DK02 38-38 11.8 te While the proposed text is a continuation of an existing requirement in the standard, with welcome clarifications, DKNC proposes to narrow the scope of the exemption to pumps where the media is responsible for the surface temperature of the pump. This is a common situation for many pumps but not for all.

Change lines 38-39 into:

For pumps whose enclosure temperature arises from the medium being pumped, when applying Table 3, the temperature rise of the external enclosure is not measured and Table 101 is not applicable.

Accepted with the following wording:For pumps whose enclosure temperature arises from the medium being pumped and where the pump is marked with a liquid temperature exceeding 35°C, when applying Table 3, the temperature rise of the external enclosure is not





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measured and Table 101 is not applicable.

8 AU01 40 te Line 40 and 41 should be reworded as in the CDV for 2-59

Delete line 40 and 41 and replace with the following


Accepted; Refer to EG1.

9 FR03 43-45 Table 101 te/ed The two sentence “Surfaces …/… children.” of the column 2 and 3 of the table 1 deserve a clarification.

The column 3 is intended for “Surfaces of other pumps WITH instructions that indicate the pump is not to be installed or used in areas accessible to children.” And not “without”.

Correct as follows:“Surfaces of other pumps WITH instructions that indicate the pump is not to be installed or used in areas accessible to children”

See 11




WithTemperature rise limits of external



11 CH03 44 11.8 Table 101 te It seems that the condition “unless they have instructions” and “without instructions” are used in the wrong way.

In the second column replace “unless they have” with “without”.

Accepted with the following wording for the second column heading to clarify that the reference to instructions is only for “other pumps”.





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In the third column replace “without” with “with”.

Surfaces of pumps without instructions that indicate the pump is not to be installed or used in areas accessible to children, and surfaces of aquarium pumps, pumps for garden ponds, table fountain pumps, shower-boost pumps, swimming pool pumps.

Accepted to change the heading of the 3rd column.

DECISION: Proceed to CDV for fifth edition and to be aligned with 60335-1 ED6

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27b. 61/6209/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6270/INF Australia, UV radiationThe results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6270A/INF




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1 CA01 - 7.14 - ge The CANC agrees with the intent of the proposal but would like to understand why this would not be better suited in the Part

AU is invited to provide more clarity on the particular reasons for addressing

Noted. During the discussion in the meeting it was





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1 since many products would be comparably affected.

this concern in this Part 2 only. agreed that the proposal will be limited to this Part 2. After application within this Part 2 it will be evaluated whether the requirements should be proposed for the Part 1.

2 FR01 ge The proposal is interesting to keep the ligible name-plate for pumps used outdoors. However, it should directly refer to IEC 60068-2-5 which simulates solar radiation +/- weathering.We therefore make the following comments.

This Australian proposal comes from the national deviation on AS/NZS 60335.2.41.

Noted

3 NO01 With the problems of the ISO 4892-tests of Annex T in mind, we are not in favour of introducing another ISO 4892-test in our standards.If the legibility of markings has been a problem, we would rather support that such marking shall be required to be “moulded in, engraved or stamped and either raised above or have a depth below the surface of at least 0,25 mm”.In addition, there are many other part 2 standards in the 60335-series which also cover appliances for outdoor use.

Require the marking to be “moulded in, engraved or stamped and either raised above or have a depth below the surface of at least 0,25 mm”.

Not accepted

4 US01 Introduction

ge We have had UV exposure testing for marking and labelling systems in the US for many years. Please add the following

7.14 Marking and labelling systems complying with UL 969 for outdoor use meet the UV exposure compliance

Accepted





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“In some countries” note criteria. (USA)5 DK01 3-19 7.14 ge DKNC supports the intention of the

proposal of ensuring markings are UV resistant where needed. However, we do have two fundamental comments:

The subject is relevant for part 1 instead of a part 2. Many appliances can be used outside and can be exposed to daylight. It seems it’s a topic not only for pumps. General requirements should be put in part 1, and more details on which product to test can be put in part 2s where relevant.

The requirements should be based on the ISO 16474 (Paints and varnishes – Methods of exposure to laboratory light sources) and not the ISO 4892 (Plastics – Methods of exposure to laboratory light sources) series used in the proposal and Annex T. Properties of paint and varnish is more relevant to the durability of the markings than the properties of plastics. The standards are relatively similar in structure and content.

Do a 2DC with the following features:

Proposal for part 1

Based on the ISO 16474 series.

See 1

See 1

6 DK02 6 7.14 te Pumps for outdoor use are not always used in daylight. Only products likely to be exposed to daylight for substantial periods should be in scope. Wastewater pumps and similar are often used in pits and submersed in dirty water which will absorb any UV light.

Change line 6 into:

Legibility of markings on pumps intended for outdoor use in daylight shall not be degraded by UV radiation.

Accepted

7 FR02 6 7.14 te The meaning: “…shall not be degraded…” deserves a clarification. Is partial erasure acceptable as long as the data remains legible? (we mean a decrease in contrast or intensity of the markings).

Proposal: replace the sentence of the line 6 as follows: “The markings on pumps intended for outdoor shall be remained ligible even if it may occur a fading of those.”

Not accepted; covered by Part 1.





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8 DK03 7-8 7.14 te Laser engraving is often used on plastics and metal to provide the needed contrast. However, this type of marking is not vulnerable to UV light and should be exempt from the testing requirement even if there is not a difference in level of 0.25 mm.

Change line 7-8 into:

This requirement does not apply to markings that are moulded in, engraved, or stamped and either raised above or have a depth below the surface of at least 0,25 mm, and laser engraved markings.

Accepted

9 US02 10 7.14 te Only one sample is subjected to the rubbing test in 7.14. One sample is sufficient to determine the suitability of a marking exposed to UV.

Change ‘Ten samples’ to ‘One sample’ and correct the remaining content editorially for a single sample. See US3 Annex.

See 12

10 DK04 10-11 7.14 te Further clarity on the requirements is needed since the reference to ISO 4892-4 is un-specific. The following aspects of ISO 4892-4 (or ISO 16474-4) should not be included: Inter comparison of test chambers, light sources other than day light, assessment of test results, reporting of results.

Where needed, those aspects are already covered by IEC 60335-1.

The exclusions can be implemented by excluding the following clauses of ISO 4892-4:

3.4, 3.5, 4.1.3, 4.1.4, 4.7, 7.4, 8

Or by adding an annex similar to Annex T which modifies ISO 4892-4.

The same approach can be used if ISO 16474-4 is used.

See 12

11 FR03 10-19 7.14 te IEC 60721 series-describes classification of environmental conditions such as IEC 60721-3-4 on “classification of groups of environmental parameters and their severities - Stationary use at non-weatherprotected locations”.These standards refer to the IEC 60068 series for testing.To assess the markings for pumps intended to use outdoor, the IEC 60068-2-5 “tests - Test S : simulated solar radiation at ground level and guidance for solar radiation testing and weathering” is

Proposal: rewrite the test procedure according to IEC 60068-2-5. Remove the reference to the ISO 4892-4.Replace the lines 10-11 and 14-19 as follows:“Ten samples of the markings are to be exposed for 360 h to xenon arc lamp, in accordance with IEC 60068-2-5, Table 5, procedure Sb1 (exposure period: 102 min dry, 18 min water spray), with broadband (300 up to 400 nm), black panel temperature (63+/-3 °C), chamber temperature

See 12





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relevant. Even if the description of the test is nearer to the IEC 60068-2-5, it should be better directly to refer it.The IEC 60068-2-5 use xenon arc lamp.The chamber temperature is higher than the test described inside IEC 60068-2-5, Table 5. We suppose 45°C is maybe specific to Australian area. So, we suggest to keep 38°C.

720 h for this test is long (30 days). No clues are mentioned in the rational to justify it. The test is only on a frequency (340 nm, UV A scope). It could be reduced at 360 h for instance by using the filtered broadband (300 up to 400 nm, for a complete UV B [6%] & UV A [94%] scope).

(38+/-3 °C), relative humidity (50 +/- 10 %).”Keep the lines 12 and 13.

12 US03 10-19 7.14 te Carbon arc testing is an older technology that has been replaced by xenon arc exposure in many labs. The xenon arc exposure and carbon-arc should be allowed as alternative methods. The suggested xenon-arc exposure method has been used in the US and Canada for many years.

Modify the compliance criteria as shown in US3 Annex.

Accepted with the following wording: The exposure shall be via one of the following methods which are considered to be equivalent: And then to include the text of the US03 Annex

13 DK05 12 7.14 ed "Cylinder" is not mentioned in ISO 4892-1 or -4.

Change "cylinder" to "test chamber" See 12

14 DK06 16 7.14 ed ISO 4892-4 refers to filter types, the relevant one being the daylight filter Type 1. There is no mentioning of inner or outer optical filters in ISO 4892-1, therefore this reference should be deleted.

Change the line into:

The apparatus shall operate with an open-flame sunshine carbon-arc lamp, borosilicate glass daylight filter Type 1.

Accepted





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US3 Annex (61/6209/DC) 7.14 Addition:

Ten samples of the markings are to be exposed for 720 h to open-flame sunshine carbon-arc, in accordance with ISO 4892-4. For markings on pumps intended for outdoor use, the test sample is mounted on the inside of the cylinder in the ultraviolet light apparatus perpendicular to the light source and in such a way that the sample does not touch each other. There shall be continuous exposure to light and intermittent exposure to water spray. The cycle shall consist of 102 min without water spray and 18 min with water spray. The exposure shall be via one of the following methods:

- The sample is exposed for 750 h to xenon-arc, method A, in accordance with ISO 4892-2. The apparatus shall operate with a water-cooled xenon-arc lamp, borosilicate glass inner and outer optical filters, a spectral irradiance of 0,35 W/m2/nm at 340 nm and a black panel temperature of (63 ± 3) °C.

- The sample is exposed for 720 h to open-flame sunshine carbon-arc in accordance with ISO 4892-4. The apparatus shall operate with an open-flame sunshine carbon-arc lamp, borosilicate glass Type 1, inner and outer optical filters, a spectral irradiance of 0,35 W/m2/nm at 340 nm and a black panel temperature of (63 ± 3) ºC. The temperature of the chamber shall be (45 ± 3) ºC. The relative humidity in the chamber shall be (50 ± 5) %.

DECISION: Proceed to 2DC to be prepared by EG1 for discussion at the next meeting of TC 61

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2 FR01 ge The proposal deserves a serious improvement to get a complete acceptation for all manufacturers and users.

Delete the proposal or change as follows in the comments below.

Not accepted

3 FR02 4-5 te/ed The 2nd part of the sentence of the dash (“where H specifies the value of the minimum total head”) doesn’t bring any clarification and repeats the same meaning of the 1st part of the sentence. It is not useful, and it could bring a confusion on ‘H’: is it Hmin or H which is really specified?

Proposal, the sentence should be written as follows:“– Hmin the minimum total head, in metres, if greater than zero;”

Accepted

4 FR03 9 7.6 te It has not had any safety misunderstanding about it until now. It is already well known by all manufacturers and users of submersible pumps. It is also used for Commercial and Industrial pumps which are not under IEC 60335-2-41.The current symbol might be improved.So, to avoid any future confusion, to meet the existing symbols' knowledge (related to ISO 7000, already used inside 60335 series) and to keep a pragmatic solution for application, we require to use the attached symbol.Indeed, it will be more pragmatic to write the value under the symbol than in the middle of symbol when the nameplates are (pre-)defined. There is a real risk that the value is written not at the right place and can create any issue for a right reading. Herewith examples:

Proposal for improving the depth symbol as follows:

Addition of water symbol: 0536 – ISO 7000Improvement of the present symbol by the significant required symbol for a level: 0159 – ISO 7000, here “maximum operating depth where X specifies the value”

Not accepted. There is no need to have a new non-harmonized symbol.It was also noted that all the other NCs at the meeting consider the proposed new symbol is clear. In addition, it was agreed to add a note to 7.6 as follows: Note: Due to construction reasons it is acceptable that the indication of the maximum operating depth in metres may be slightly displaced on the left or right side with reference to the arrows.

Refer to EG1 for the wording of the Note.





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5 FR04 10-11 7.12 te If the symbol is clear it has not needed to explain.7.6 is sufficient, see the previous comment.

Delete the proposal. Not accepted. In particular it was considered that it may be helpful for the symbol to also be provided in the instructions in situations where the value for the maximum operating depth in metres in the symbol is slightly displaced with reference to the arrows in the symbol. See the examples in the first and fourth illustrations in the comment in row 4.

DECISION: Proceed to CDV for the fifth edition and to be aligned with 60335-1 ED6

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28. IEC 60335-2-42: Particular requirements for commercial electric forced convection ovens, steam cookers and steam-convection ovens 61/6162/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6285/RVC New EditionAlso taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT32)60The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6285A/RVC





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Noted





3 DE01 24-25 Foreword ed Reference to wrong IEC standard. Modify lines 24 - 25 to read as follows:This part 2 supplements or modifies the corresponding clauses in IEC 60335-1, so as to convert that publication into the IEC standard: Safety requirements for spin extractors Safety requirements for commercial electric forced convection ovens, steam cookers and steam-convection ovens.

Accepted





or alternatively:









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- Stationary convection ovens and steam convection ovens for household use (IEC 60335-2-6)

- portable cooking appliances for household use (IEC 60335-2-9)

portable steam cookers for household use (IEC 60335-2-15)


6 US02 210 3.1.9 ed A Note added in the Part 2 to an existing term in the Part 1 should be Note 101 to entry

Note 101 to entry Accepted

7 DE02 216-218 3.1.9 ed 1. To align the wording with the other commercial catering equipment parts delete the comma after “use”.

2. The editorial team has added the words “and detachable electrical parts” after “Motors” in other commercial catering equipment parts. These words didn’t come out of any DC for commercial catering equipment.These words haven’t been added in

Modify lines 216 - 218 to read as follows:In all the above cases, motors incorporated in the appliance are operated under the most unfavourable conditions that can be expected in normal use, taking into account the manufacturer's instructions.Either add the words “and detachable electrical parts” in parts 2-36, -42, -47, -48, -49 where a similar sentence

Accepted with the addition “and detachable electrical parts” to read as follows:Motors and detachable electrical parts incorporated in the appliance are operated under the





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the CDVs for parts 2-36, -42, -47, -48, -49. We can’t see a technical reason for this.Either add the words in the above-mentioned standards where the same sentence is included or delete the words in the standards -2-37, -38, -39, -50.

is included after “motors”or delete the words in the standards -2-37, -38, -39, -50.

most unfavourable conditions that can be expected in normal use taking into account the manufacturer's instructions.

8 US03 263-270 3.8.103, 3.8.104

ed These should be relocated to 3.6 Renumber these as 3.6.103 and 3.6.104

Accepted

8 bis




9 JP01 305 7.6 te For a warning sign for Risk of scalding, The symbol in Figure 102 of the existing Part 2-42 needs to be kept by using the yellow triangle.

Change as follows. (Add the yellow triangle to the symbol and add the underlined NOTE taking into account clause 7.6 of Part 2-105.)

[symbol IEC 60417-6418 (2020-06)] Risk of scalding

NOTE The “Risk of scalding” symbol incorporates symbol IEC 60417-6418


NOTE 101 The “Risk of scalding” symbol incorporates symbol IEC 60417-6418 (2020-06) combined with the warning sign of ISO 3864-1.





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(2020-06) combined with the warning sign of ISO 3864-1.

10 US04 305 7.6 ed Caution and Risk should be lower case caution, hot surfacerisk of scalding

Accepted


Modify lines 312 - 313 to read as follows:“If any of symbols IEC 60417-5021 (2002-10), IEC 60417-5041 (2002-10) or IEC 60417-6418 (2020-06) are marked on the appliance, its meaning shall be explained.”

Accepted

12 DE04 314-331 7.12 te The Japanese proposal 61/5780 was rejected in Shanghai. The deletion of the lines 320 to 322 isn’t covered by the decision made in Shanghai (see Daily report compilation Shanghai V2 [Doc.: 61(Shanghai/Secretariat)69 V2; No. 17]. The modification by the editorial group is a technical one not covered by the decisions in Shanghai and the web-meetings in 2020.The following modifications are considered problematic as they change the meaning of the requirement:Line 316:The note is necessary because the trolley is placed inside the application and gets so hot that a coloured plastic-label will melt. The reduced size is a concession to the frame width of the trolley.Lines 317-319:All shelves positioned at levels higher than 1,6 m above the floor shall be permanently marked with the symbol. With the new text in the CDV nobody will mark the appliance. In addition the

Undo all modifications made by the editorial group but replacing the figure by the symbol IEC 60417-6418 (2020-06).or modify as follows:Line 316: undelete the note

Lines 317-319:“The appliance and trolley intended to be loaded with containers with liquids or cooking goods which becomes fluid by heating in shelves positioned at levels higher than 1,6 m above the floor shall be permanently marked with symbol IEC 60417-6418 (2020-06).”

Lines 323-324: delete lines 323-324

Lines 325-327: “If symbol IEC 60417-6418 (2020-06) is required to be marked in 7.1 but the

Accepted with the following modifications (see also 9):

Line 316: keep the note

Lines 317-319:“The appliance and trolley intended to be loaded with shelves positioned at levels higher than 1,6 m above the floor shall be permanently marked with symbol “Risk of scalding””

Delete lines 323-324

Lines 325-327: “If symbol “Risk of scalding” is required





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intended use might change over the duration of use.Lines 323-324:The sentence “If appliances are intended to be installed less than 1,6 m above the floor, the instructions shall include the statement to show this intention.” doesn’t make sense at all.This sentence was taken from the rejected Japanese proposal. The marking with the symbol is not related to the level where the appliance is installed but if there are shelves positioned at levels higher than 1,6 m above the floor after installation.

appliance is not marked, the label marked with the symbol shall be supplied with the appliance and the instructions shall state that the label shall be affixed on the front surface after the installation at a height of 1,60 m above the floor.”

to be marked in 7.1 but if the appliance is not marked, the label with the symbol shall be supplied with the appliance and the instructions shall state that the label shall be affixed on the front surface after the installation at a height of 1,60 m above the floor.”

13 CH02 334 7.12 ed As exception, parts of text required by 7.12 to be provided in the instructions need not to be formatted in bold, even when being defined terms (in general, users of appliances do not have access to standards, hence they do not know the meaning of formatting of words).

Format “cooking compartment” in roman, not in bold.

Refer to EG1

14 US05 334, 336-338

7.12 ed Indent the instruction text Indent lines 334 and 336-338 Accepted

15 DE05 after 340

7.12 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted but hasn’t been integrated in the CDV.

Add the following text after line 340:“If the supports of devices are formed in L-shape, the instructions shall draw the attention of the user on the fact that the device is not suitable for the use with containers which are intended for cooking processes which can generate or use liquids.”

Accepted to be reviewed editorially by EG1

16 DK02 7.12 te The text regarding L-shaped supports proposed in 61/6082/DC has not been implemented. This text is important in support of the added requirement in 21.101 (line 642)

Add the following text after line 340:

"When the supports of devices are formed in L-shape, the instructions shall draw the attention of the user on the fact that the device is not suitable for the use with containers which are

See 15





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intended for cooking processes which can generate or use liquids."

17 DE06 366 7.14 te The requirement: “The height of symbol IEC 60417-6418 (2020-06) shall be at least 30 mm.” was not in the DC. It stands in contradiction to the indispensable note in line 316.

Delete line 366 or limit the requirement as follows:“The height of symbol IEC 60417-6418 (2020-06) shall be at least 30 mm. This does not apply to the symbol on the trolley.”

Not accepted

18 JP02 366 7.14 te The height of the triangle should be specified as based on JP1.

Change the text as follows.

The height of the triangle of the “Risk of scalding” symbol shall be at least 30 mm.

Accepted with the following wording:The height of symbol “Risk of scalding” shall be at least 30 mm.NOTE The warning sign at the trolley can be etched or stamped; in this case the size can be reduced.





Accepted




with

Not accepted.The title is consistent with other Part 2 standards





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and with the format of Tables 3 and 9




Accepted









Replace lines 487 to 490 with the following: “For appliances normally used on the floor, the bowl is placed on the floor and is moved around in such a way as to splash the appliance from all the directions. During the test, the water pressure is so regulated that the water splashes up 150 mm above the bottom of the bowl. The bowl is not positioned





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underneath the appliance.”


24 SA01 486 15.1.1 Paragraph 2



See 23

25 DE08 544-546 19.1 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted but has only partly been integrated in the CDV.To align the wording with other commercial catering parts (see part 2-36 …) delete the comma behind addition.

Modify lines 544 - 546 to read as follows:“A control or switching device that is intended for different settings corresponding to different functions of the same part of the appliance is in addition, set in the most unfavourable setting irrespective of the

Accepted





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manufacturer’s instructions.”

26 DE09 566-577 19.7 The proposal of the DC “Delete the last sentence (shifted to 19.13):” was accepted without comments in the web meetings 2020.This has been done by the editorial group but furthermore they have modified the whole clause.The modification does not make clear which paragraph of Part 1 is to be modified.

Modify lines 566-577 as follows:“Instead of the text preceding the table, the following applies.Moving parts of motor and fan assemblies are locked and the appliance is operated, starting from room temperature, under normal operation, at rated voltage or at the upper limit of the rated voltage range, as long as is necessary to establish steady conditions or, if a timer is provided, for the maximum period allowed by the timer.If an appliance has more than one motor, the test is carried out for each motor separately.Appliances incorporating motors and having capacitors in the circuit of an auxiliary winding, are operated with the rotor locked, the capacitors being open-circuited one at a time. The test is repeated with the capacitors short-circuited one at a time, unless they are of class S2 or S3 of IEC 60252-1:2010 including IEC 60252-1:2010/AMD1:2013.NOTE 1 This test is carried out with the rotor locked since some motors can start thus giving rise to inconsistent results.”

Accepted with modification to lines 566 to 578:

Instead of the text preceding the table, the following applies.

Moving parts of motor and fan assemblies are locked and the appliance is operated, starting from room temperature, under normal operation, at rated voltage or at the upper limit of the rated voltage range, as long as is necessary to establish steady conditions or, if a timer is provided, for the maximum period allowed by the timer.

If an appliance has more than one motor, the test is carried out for each motor separately.

Alternative tests for





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protected motor units are given in Annex D

Appliances incorporating motors and having capacitors in the circuit of an auxiliary winding, are operated with the rotor locked, the capacitors being open-circuited one at a time. The test is repeated with the capacitors short-circuited one at a time, unless they are of class S2 or S3 of IEC 60252-1:2010 including IEC 60252-1:2010/AMD1:2013.NOTE 101 This test is carried out with the rotor locked since some motors can start thus giving rise to inconsistent results.

27 DE10 after 580

19.13 ed The proposal of the DC “Delete the last sentence (shifted to 19.13):” was accepted without comments in the web meetings 2020 but not integrated in the CDV.

Insert the following text after line 580:“19.13 Addition: During the test, the temperature of the windings shall not exceed the values shown in Table 8.”

Accepted

28 DE11 591-595 20.1 ed The proposal of the DC Rename 22.114 - 22.117 back to Accepted





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“Delete the second and third paragraph (requirement shifted to 22.114).” was discussed and accepted in the web meetings 2020 (DKNC-comment-no. 12) but is not correctly integrated in the CDV. The reason was a 2nd comment (DKNC-comment-no. 13) on the same clause in the Compilation of Comments 61/6102/INF causing some confusion.

22.115 - 22.118. and thenshift the text in lines 591-595:“Shelf trolleys are subjected to the following test.The trolley, fully loaded in accordance with the manufacturer's instructions, is placed on a rigid plane coated with aluminum oxide paper (grain size 80) and inclined at 10° to the horizontal. The braking mechanism is applied and the trolley shall not move by more than 100 mm. Any spillage of liquid is ignored”to 22.114 (line 693)

29 US06 665 22.7 ed Editorial correction per 61/6082/DC Add ‘more than’ before 20 % Accepted




or





31 DE12 713 22.110 ed The proposal of the DC “Modify the first sentence as follows:Pressurized parts of appliances shall be capable of withstanding the rated pressure.” was accepted without comments in the web meetings 2020 but not integrated in the CDV.

Modify line 713 as follows:“Pressurized parts of appliances shall be capable of withstanding the rated pressure.”

Accepted





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32 DK06 713 22.110 ed The agreed upon text of 61/6082/DC has not been implemented


"Pressurized parts of appliances shall be capable of withstanding the rated pressure."

See 31

33 US07 724 22.111 te Due to 5.21 in the Part 1, where no force is specified, a test probe is to be applied with 1 N force. It is recommended that the 5 N force specified in 20.2 of Part 1 be used here.

Add the following after ‘test probe B’ in line 724:


Accepted

34 US08 741-742 744-745


Add the following at the end of lines 742 and 745:


Accepted to be added at the end of line 742




Accepted

36 DE13 798-811 25.3 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted. In the CDV it was completely rewritten by the editorial group. That was done also for part -2-37 (see DENC-comment on 25.3 on 61/6159/CDV) and without the 3rd paragraph for part -2-38)Text of 61/6082/DC:“Delete the comma in the second paragraph ‘In this case, a chord anchorage …’

To align part 2-42 with 2-37, 2-38, 2-39 and the other commercial catering equipment parts modify lines 798 - 811 to read as follows:“The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of

Accepted





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Delete the last sentence: ‘Compliance is checked by inspection.’ “

Text of the CDV:“The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.Appliances intended to be permanently connected to fixed wiring that are provided with cord anchorage and a set of terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, shall allow the connection of the flexible cord after the appliance has been installed in accordance with the instructions.Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance. If the appliance is provided with a set of terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, they shall be suitable for the type X attachment of the cord. In both cases, the instructions shall give full particulars of the supply cord. If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”


a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance.If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”



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29. IEC 60335-2-44: Particular requirements for ironers 61/6163/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6300/RVC New Edition The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6300A/RVC

MB/NC

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Noted

2 CI/ANEC 01


3 FI01 ge The Finnish NC votes in favour of this document but wishes to submit the following editorial comment.

Noted

4 FI02 Whole document

ed Clause numbering is missing throughout the document.

Add clause numbering. Accepted


6 NL01 114148152

Etc.

All Title No title number Add title number:1 Scope2 Normative references3 Terms and definitionsEtc.

See 4

7 US01 Various Various ed The Clause numbers are missing Add Clause numbers before Clause See 4


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throughout the document titles











or alternatively:






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10 US02 136, 138

1 ed Double dash Remove extra dash Accepted

11 CH02 259 11.8 ed A full stop is missing at the end of the sentence.


Accepted

12 DK02 260-261 11.8 Table 101 te The header and the temperature limits in the last column of the table are different from what is contained in 61/5961/DC. With no agreed modifications in 61/6045A/INF this change is not appropriate and will require a separate proposal and associated technical discussions.

Reinstate the temperatures contained in 61/5961/DC in the last column of table 101

See 16

13 CH03 261 11.8 ed “a” at the end of “Temperature rise of external surfaces” shall be formatted as superscript, not as subscript.

Format “a” at the end of “Temperature rise of external surfaces” as superscript.

Accepted







15 CH05 261 11.8 Table 101 te Temperature rise limits for bare metal and coated metal and of surfaces of appliances for commercial use seem to be wrong.

In fourth column, replace “42” with “48” and “49” with “59”, respectively.

See 16

16 JP02 261 11.8 Table 101 ed In the right column “Surfaces of appliances for commercial use”, the values for bare metal and coated metal are wrong. (61/6045A/INF does not record any change from 61/5961/DC.)

Correct the value for bare metal and coated metal as follows.

Bare metal: from 42 to 48Coated metal: from 49 to 59

Accepted


DECISION: Proceed to FDIS for fourth edition. For all FDIS where there was no confirmation at the CDV stage regarding the In Some Countries notes, a Note of the Secretary will be included to draw NCs to identify any In Some Countries notes needing to be retained in the next edition.

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30. IEC 60335-2-47: Particular requirements for commercial electric boiling pans 61/6164/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6286/RVC New Edition Also taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT32)61The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6286A/RVC




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Noted





3 CH02 11 FOREWORD



Accepted

4 NO01 12 Foreword ed Spelling error Change from 20.102 to 20.101 Accepted

5 DK01 ge The scope replaces the scope in the part 1. Therefore DC-supplied and battery-

To create consistency between scope Accepted to add a third dashed item





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operated appliances are excluded from the scope. While appliances in the scope of this standard are unlikely to be battery-operated, consistency in the implementation of battery related requirements is lacking.





and requirements DKNC proposes to:


or alternatively:


after line 142 in the scope the following:




Add the following dashed item under line 138:appliances for heating liquids for household use (IEC 60335-2-15)


7 DE01 171-173 3.1.9 ed 1. To align the wording in all parts 2 (for commercial catering equipment) the comma behind “use” should be deleted in this part too.

2. The editorial team has added the words “and detachable electrical parts” after “Motors” in other

Modify lines 171 - 173 to read as follows:“Motors incorporated in the appliance are operated under the most unfavourable conditions that can be expected in normal use, taking into account the manufacturer's

Accepted with the addition “and detachable electrical parts” to read as follows:Motors and detachable





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commercial catering equipment parts. These words didn’t come out of any DC for commercial catering equipment.These words haven’t been added in the CDVs for parts 2-36, -42, -47, -48, -49. We can’t see a technical reason for this.Either add the words in the above-mentioned standards where the same sentence is included or delete the words in the standards -2-37, -38, -39, -50.

instructions.”Either add the words “and detachable electrical parts” in parts 2-36, -42, 47, -48, -49 where a similar sentence is included after “Motors”or delete the words in the standards -2-37, -38, -39, -50.

electrical parts incorporated in the appliance are operated under the most unfavourable conditions that can be expected in normal use taking into account the manufacturer's instructions.

8 US02 208-215 3.8.103, 3.8.104


Accepted

8 bis





10 DE02 264-265 7.12 ed To align the wording with the other commercial catering equipment parts the


Accepted





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wording shall be modified. “If any of symbols IEC 60417-5021 (2002-10) or IEC 60417-5041 (2002-10) are marked on the appliance, its meaning shall be explained.”


12 DK02 8 & 20.2 te According to 61/6103A/INF, it was decided that test probe 18 shall not apply to appliances covered by this standard. However, no changes have been made in cl. 8 and in cl. 20.2 to exclude test probe 18 and so it will be required based on the part-1




Accepted








Instead, we believe that the intent of the










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splash test is to simulate water that might splash from the floor during cleaning could reach underneath the appliance and into the appliance that way. If not, there is nothing to mitigate the risks from water splashing into the appliance from underneath in real use.



Replace the text in line 423 to 427: “For all other appliances, the bowl is placed on the same plane where the appliance is placed and is moved around in such a way as to splash the appliance from all directions. During the test, the water pressure is so regulated that the water splashes up to 100 mm above the





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bottom of the bowl. The bowl is not positioned underneath the appliance.”

16 SA01 418 15.1.1 Paragraph 2



See 15

17 DE04 517-518 20.2 ed The (admittedly somewhat unclear) proposal of the DC was accepted but hasn’t been integrated in the CDV.

Modify lines 517 - 518 to read as follows:“The requirement for moving parts of appliances does not apply to parts necessary to perform the tilting movement, such as handles or hand-wheels.This applies also to parts necessary to perform the tilting movement, i.e. handles or handwheels.”

Accepted with the following wording:Add the following after the first paragraph in the requirement.This applies also to parts necessary to perform the tilting movement, i.e. handles or handwheels.

18 US05 522 20.101 te Due to 5.21 in the Part 1, where no force is specified, a test probe is to be applied with 1 N force. It is recommended that the 5 N force specified in 20.2 of Part 1 be used here.



Accepted


Since this is explanatory and does not contain any requirements, it should not be part of the normative requirement but remain as a note. Alternatively, a


or



Trip-free is an automatic action





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reference to the defined term in IEC 60730 may be given instead.


that is independent of manipulation or position of the actuating member.

20 CH04 604 22.113 ed It is not clear whether the text in line 604 and the text in line 605 are related as “and” or “or”.

For improved clarity, add “or” after the second comma.

Accepted as follows:

In lines 604 and 605 replace , with ;

21 US06 607, 610




Accepted




Accepted

23 DE05 670-680 25.3 te The proposal of the DC was accepted. In the CDV it was completely rewritten by the editorial group. That was done also for the other commercial catering equipment parts but in some cases with an additional paragraph (see for e.g. DENC-comment on 25.3 on 61/6159/CDV)Text of 61/6083/DC:“Remove the last sentence: ‘Compliance is checked by inspection.’ “

To align part 2-39 with 2-36, 2-37 and the other commercial catering equipment parts modify lines 646 - 659 to read as follows:“The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be

Accepted





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Type of comment



suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance.If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”

24 CH05 693 27.2 ed It is not clear whether the text in line 692 - 693 and the text in line 694 - 695 are related as “and” or “or”.

For improved clarity, add “and” after the semicolon.

Not accepted



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31. IEC 60335-2-48: Particular requirements for commercial electric grillers and toasters 61/6165/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6287/RVC New EditionAlso taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/JPNC)48, 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT32)62The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6287A/RVC




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Noted





3 CH02 13 FOREWORD

ed Wrong punctuation. At the end of the fifth dashed item replace the semicolon with a full stop.

Accepted


By omitting the wording on DC and battery-operated appliances found in part 1 scope, it seems clear that



or alternatively:

Add DC-supplied and battery-operated appliances to the scope and relevant requirements for battery operated appliances in cl. 11.7 and, if

Accepted to add a sixth dashed item after line 154 in the scope the following:


In Clause 12 include the following: This clause of Part 1





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such appliances are not in scope of this part 2.




necessary, in B.11.1 is not applicable.

5 JP01 123 Clause 1 ge The requirements for the appliances open to the public should not be specified in household appliance standards, they should be specified in commercial appliance standards just simply added probe 18 and they are distinguished in the instruction. Otherwise, we will take more difficult and very complex ways with the following concerns.

Now, TC61 adapt the way to move the requirements for open to the public in commercial appliances standards such as -2-48(toasters), -2-49(hot cupboards) and -2-50(bains-marie) to the household appliances standards, because Part 1; ed.6 adapt the test probe 18. And such appliances open to the public are assumed to be used mainly in hotel buffets.However, we mistakenly forget the

Keep the current published sentence as is.

Change to: This International Standard deals with the safety of electrically operated commercial grillers and toasters not intended for household and similar use, their rated voltage being not more than 250 V for single-phase appliances connected between one phase and neutral, and 480 V for other appliances.

Not acceptedIn line (128) is clearly excluded the household intended use:“These appliances are not intended for household and similar purposes”

For other considerations see 7





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differences between commercial and household appliances standards other than test probe 18. The number of loads and heating periods are different in clause 10, 11 and other clauses, for instance between -2-48 and -2-9. If the appliances used in open to the public such as hotel buffets are tested accordance with -2-9, we would evaluate such appliances with some weaker requirements. Because these appliances in hotel buffets are used by much more clients for longer periods than the other appliances normally specified in -2-9. In this case, these additional requirements have to be added in -2-9 specified only for the appliances used in open to the public such as hotel buffets. (It means that the appliances used in open to the public should be also additionally distinguished in the instruction to the normal household appliances.) These problems are not only for -2-48, -2-49 and -2-50, but also -2-90(microwave ovens). In the case of -2-90, the number of door endurance test and door abuse tests are also different to the household standard; -2-25. And these appliances are not only used in hotel buffets, but also convenience stores and department stores as used in open to the public. We have to bring many requirements from -2-90 to -2-25 for the appliance open to the public. We believe that the other commercial standards would be having same problems. Finally, we emphasize an area open to the public in clause 8.1.1 and 20.2 of Part 1: ed.6 is do considered for commercial use. Then we should also modify the





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following current sentence of Part 1 when we take this way.Test probe 18 is not applied to appliances for commercial use unless they are intended to be installed in an area open to the public.

6 CH03 126 1 ed Replace “Rotary or continuous grillers and toasters” with “Rotary or continuous grillers or toasters”, otherwise the term defined in 3.5.103 is never used throughout the standard.

Replace “Rotary or continuous grillers and toasters” with “Rotary or continuous grillers or toasters”.

Accepted

7 JP02 129 Clause 1 See JP1 Remove “not open to the public”.Change to: These appliances are not intended for household and similar purposes. They are used for commercial processing of food in areas not open to the public, for example in kitchens of restaurants, canteens, hospitals and in commercial enterprises such as bakeries and butcheries.

The following modifications are proposed to make the scope and the text consistent:

(line 128)These appliances are not intended for household and similar purposes. They are used for commercial processing of food, also in areas open to the public, for example in kitchens of restaurants, canteens, hospitals and in commercial enterprises such as bakeries and butcheries.

(line 149):grills, toasters and similar portable





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cooking appliances for household use covered by IEC 60335-2-9 and used in the following environments by laymen:

(after line 208)3.8 Definitions relating to miscellaneous matters3.8.104area open to the publicarea in which the general public, including children, may have accessNote 1 to entry: Examples are canteens and self-service restaurants.

7.12 Addition

The manufacturer shall declare that the appliance is also intended to be used in an area open to thepublic or, if the appliance is not





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suitable for use in an area open to the public, the instruction shall include the substance of the following warning:

CAUTION This appliance shall not be installed where the public has access.

11.8 Addition:

For appliances intended to be installed in areas open to the public, the temperature shall not exceed the values shown in Table 101 <reported in the next row>Accepted in principle, but the Table to be aligned to the latest version from MT4 and footnote b to be applied only for appliances and parts situated more than 850 mm above the floor after installation. In addition, the title of the Table will be





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modified as follows: Maximum temperature rises of external accessible surfaces for appliances intended to be installed in areas open to the publicunder normal operating conditions.As a consequence, clause 7 shall be aligned with the addition of the symbol and warning concerning hot surfaces.





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Table 101 – Maximum temperature rises of external accessible surfaces under normal operating conditions

Surface

Temperature rise of external accessible surfacesa

KAppliances and parts situated not more

than 850 mm above the floor after installation b

Appliances and parts situated more than 850 mm above the floor after

installation b

Bare metalCoated metal c

Glass and ceramicPlastic and plastic coating 0,4 mm d, e

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a The following surfaces or elements shall not be taken into consideration:– hot functional surfaces;

– handles or control knobs including keypads, keyboards and the like: part of the equipment that a user needs to touch to operate or adjust the equipment. The equipment has to be installed according to the manufacturer’s instructions;

– surfaces within 5 mm of touch controls regardless of their shape;

– surfaces within 25 mm of the outline of the hot functional surfaces;

– underside surfaces that are not accessible to a 75 mm diameter probe having a hemispherical end;

– lids and covers.b When the required values are not met, the maximum temperature rise shall not be higher than two times the

values indicated.c Metal is considered coated when a coating having a minimum thickness of 90 m made by enamel, powder or

non-substantially plastic coating is used.d The temperature rise limit of plastic also applies for plastic material having a metal finish of thickness less than

0,1 mm.e When the thickness of the plastic coating does not exceed 0,4 mm, the temperature rise limits of the coated

metal or of glass and ceramic material apply.

8 US01 149 1 ed Suggest adding household use in this dashed item

grills, toasters and similar appliances for household use or use in the following environments (IEC60335-2-9):

See 7





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9 US02 173 3.1.4 ed A part 2 note to a Part 1 term should be Note 101 to entry

Note 101 to entry Accepted

10 DE01 185-186 3.1.9 ed The editorial team has added the words “and detachable electrical parts” after “Motors” in other commercial catering equipment parts. These words didn’t come out of any DC for commercial catering equipment.These words haven’t been added in the CDVs for parts 2-36, -42, -47, -48, -49. We can’t see a technical reason for this.Either add the words in the above-mentioned standards where the same sentence is included or delete the words in the standards -2-37, -38, -39, -50.

Either add the words “and detachable electrical parts” in parts 2-36, -42, 47, -48, -49 where a similar sentence is included after “Motors”or delete the words in the standards -2-37, -38, -39, -50.


11 US03 201-208 3.8.102, 3.8.103


Accepted




Accepted





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14 DE03 253-258 7.12 ed These lines were a proposal of AUNC and have been agreed in the TC61 web-meeting to be integrated in the standard. But the wording should be modified that it is clearer that the appliance shouldn’t be used by laymen.

Modify lines 253-258 as follows:“The instructions shall include the substance of the following: This appliance is not intended to be used by laymen in household and similar applications such as: – staff kitchen areas in shops, offices and other working environments; – farm houses; – by clients in hotels, motels and other residential type environments; – bed and breakfast type environments.”


The instructions shall include the substance of the following: This appliance is not intended to be used by laymen in household and similar applications such as: – staff kitchen areas in shops, offices and other working environments; – farm houses; – in hotels, motels and other residential type environments; – bed and breakfast type environments.

15 JP03 258-259 7.12 See JP1 Add the following requirement at after sixth sentence.The instructions shall include the substance if this appliance can be used in the areas open to the public.

See 7


17 DK02 8 & 20.2 te According to 61/6104A/INF, it was decided that test probe 18 shall not apply to appliances covered by this standard. However, no changes have been made in cl. 8 and in cl. 20.2 to exclude test probe 18 and so it will be required based on the part-1



18 JP04 315-316 8.1.1 See JP1 Add the following requirement at after See 7





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first sentence.Modification: If the appliance can be used in the area open to the public, test probe 18 is applied.

19 US06 320 8.101 ed This is now covered by 5.21 of Part 1 Delete ‘The probe is applied without appreciable force.’

Accepted


Accepted


Replace“Temperature rise of external

accessible surfaces b”with“Temperature rise limits of external

accessible surfaces b”

See 7




Accepted


Instead, we believe that the intent of the splash test is to simulate water that might splash from the floor during cleaning could






Replace lines 404 to 407 with the





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reach underneath the appliance and into the appliance that way. If not, there is nothing to mitigate the risks from water splashing into the appliance from underneath in real use.


following: “For appliances normally used on the floor, the bowl is placed on the floor and is moved around in such a way as to splash the appliance from all the directions. During the test, the water pressure is so regulated that the water splashes up 150 mm above the bottom of the bowl. The bowl is not positioned underneath the appliance.”

Replace the text in line 408 to 411: “For all other appliances, the bowl is placed on the same plane where the appliance is placed and is moved around in such a way as to splash the appliance from all directions. During the test, the water pressure is so regulated that the water splashes up to 100 mm above the bottom of the bowl. The bowl is not positioned





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underneath the appliance.”

24 SA01 403 15.1.1 Paragraph 2



See 23

25 JP05 456-457 20.2 See JP1 Add the following requirement at after Clause 20.1.

Clause 20.2: Modification: If the appliance can be used in the area open to the public, test probe 18 is applied.

See 7

26 US07 462 21 ed Should this be for 21.1? 21.1 Addition Accepted

27 US09 465-466, 579

21, 29.3 te Due to 5.21 in the Part 1, where no force is specified, a test probe is to be applied with 1 N force. It is noted that test probe 41 is applied without appreciable force per 8.1.3 of Part 1 and Table 1 of IEC 61032. Should test probe B and test probe 41 be applied without appreciable force?

If yes, no changes is needed

Verify that the force specified in 5.21 is suitable or if a greater force should be specified.

Noted; the force defined in 5.21 of 1N was confirmed.




or









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29 CH06 474 22.101 ed A full stop is missing at the end of the last sentence.

Add a full stop at the end of the last sentence.

Accepted

30 DE05 474 22.101 ed A full stop is missing at the end of the last sentence

Add a full stop at the end of the line. See 29

31 CH07 486 22.101 ed Use right formatting. Add new line for 22.102 at the end of clause 22.101.

Accepted

32 DE06 486 22.101 ed A line feed is missing before the clause 22.102

Add a line feed before the clause 22.102.

See 31

33 US08 486 22.102 ed Insert line break 22.102 should start on a new line See 31

34 DK05 22.102 ed The proposed and agreed upon change to cl. 22.102 has not been implemented in this proposal.


"22.102 Lights, switches or push-buttons for the indication of danger, alarm or similar situations shall only be coloured red."

See 31


Delete 22.104 See 36

36 DK06 495-496 22.104 te This content is assumed to stem from the deleted content in cl. 24.101 (line 516). However, the content in 24.101 was more restrictive than the proposed change as it


"22.104 Thermal controls shall not be

Accepted. The same requirement shall be included in 2-36, 2-42 and 2-47. EG1





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applied to all connectors and not only those complying with the standard sheets of 60320-3 or 60309-2 as is now proposed.


incorporated in connectors" will manage these updates.

37 DE08 525-532 25.3 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted in the web-meetings 2020. In the CDV it was completely rewritten by the editorial group. That was done also for the other commercial catering equipment parts That was done also for part -2-37 (see DENC-comment on 25.3 on 61/6159/CDV) and without the 3rd paragraph for part -2-38)Text of 61/6084/DC:“Delete the comma (,) in the second paragraph after the word ‘case’ . Remove the last sentence:‘Compliance is checked by inspection’ “

Text of the CDV:“The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed. Appliances intended to be permanently connected to fixed wiring that are provided with cord anchorage and a set of terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, shall allow the connection of the flexible cord after the appliance has been installed in accordance with the instructions. If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state the size and

To align part 2-48 with 2-36, 2-37 and the other commercial catering equipment parts modify lines 525 - 532 to read as follows:“The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance.If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”

Accepted





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type of the supply cord to be used.”Lines 527 - 530 are very similar to the existing lines 521 - 524 in the current standard. In lines 527 - 530 the cord anchorage isn’t anymore a requirement. The meaning of the text has been twisted.

38 CH08 546, 547

27.2 ed It is not clear whether the text in line 545 - 546 and the text in line 547 are related as “and” or “or”.Wrong formatting.

For improved clarity, add “and” after each comma.In line 547, replace “mm2” with “mm2”.

Accepted to add semicolon at end of line 546 and accepted to correct in line 547 as follows: “mm2; and”


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32. IEC 60335-2-49: Particular requirements for commercial electric appliances for keeping food and crockery warm 61/6166/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6288/RVC New EditionAlso taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/JPNC)48, 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT32)63The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6288A/RVC




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Noted





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3 CH02 21 FOREWORD



Accepted







or alternatively:


Accepted to add a ninth dashed item after line 169 in the scope the following:







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Type of comment




Now, TC61 adapt the way to move the requirements for open to the public in commercial appliances standards such as -2-48(toasters), -2-49(hot cupboards) and -2-50(bains-marie) to the household appliances standards, because Part 1; ed.6 adapt the test probe 18. And such appliances open to the public are assumed to be used mainly in hotel buffets.However, we mistakenly forget the differences between commercial and household appliances standards other than test probe 18. The number of loads and heating periods are different in clause 10, 11 and other clauses, for instance between -2-48 and -2-9. If the appliances used in open to the public such as hotel buffets are tested accordance with -2-9, we would evaluate such appliances with some weaker requirements. Because these appliances in hotel buffets are used by much more clients for longer periods than the other appliances normally


Change to: This International Standard deals with the safety of electrically operated commercial grillers and toasters not intended for household and similar use, their rated voltage being not more than 250 V for single-phase appliances connected between one phase and neutral, and 480 V for other appliances.







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specified in -2-9. In this case, these additional requirements have to be added in -2-9 specified only for the appliances used in open to the public such as hotel buffets. (It means that the appliances used in open to the public should be also additionally distinguished in the instruction to the normal household appliances.) These problems are not only for -2-48, -2-49 and -2-50, but also -2-90(microwave ovens). In the case of -2-90, the number of door endurance test and door abuse tests are also different to the household standard; -2-25. And these appliances are not only used in hotel buffets, but also convenience stores and department stores as used in open to the public. We have to bring many requirements from -2-90 to -2-25 for the appliance open to the public. We believe that the other commercial standards would be having same problems. Finally, we emphasize an area open to the public in clause 8.1.1 and 20.2 of Part 1: ed.6 is do considered for commercial use. Then we should also modify the following current sentence of Part 1 when we take this way.

Test probe 18 is not applied to appliances for commercial use unless they are intended to be installed in an area open to the public.

6 DK02 137 1 te The specification that these appliances are used in areas not open to the public is not correct. For example, crockery dispensers are often used in canteens and buffet-restaurants at self-service counters and placed in the public area of

Modify the scope to indicate that appliances may be used in areas open to the public.

Please refer the draft standard back to






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the restaurant or canteen. Also heated display cases and heated tables are often used in such locations.As these products are used in public areas, this will include children at all ages, elderly, and people with special needs. The draft standard does not take this into account e.g., it allows a temperature rise of 25 K in note b) in table 101. Furthermore, according to 61/6105A/INF the use of probe 18 was decided not to be relevant. Consequently, the standard does not give the sufficient level of safety to the consumers mentioned above.

DK NC propose to transfer the proposal for discussion in MT4 for relevant modifications including the possible need to also include test probe 19.

MT4 to solve the problem with the surface temperatures and the aspect of test probes


(line 165):Warming plates and similar appliances for household use covered by IEC 60335-2-12 and used in the following environments by laymen:

(after line 267)3.8 Definitions relating to miscellaneous matters3.8.101area open to the publicarea in which the





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general public, including children, may have accessNote 1 to entry: Examples are canteens and self-service restaurants.

7.12 Addition

The manufacturer shall declare that the appliance is also intended to be used in an area open to thepublic or, if the appliance is not suitable for use in an area open to the public, the instruction shall include the substance of the following warning:


11.8 Addition:

For appliances





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intended to be installed in areas open to the public, the temperature shall not exceed the values shown in Table 101 <reported in the next row>Accepted in principle, but the Table to be aligned to the latest version from MT4 and footnote b to be applied only for appliances and parts situated more than 850 mm above the floor after installation. In addition, the title of the Table will be modified as follows: Maximum temperature rises of external accessible surfaces for appliances intended to be installed in areas open to the publicunder normal operating conditions.As a consequence, clause 7 shall be aligned with the addition of the symbol and warning concerning hot





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surfaces.

Table 101 – Maximum temperature rises of external accessible surfacesunder normal operating conditions

Surface





installation b



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7 JP02 137 Clause 1 See JP1 Remove “not open to the public”.Change to: These appliances are not intended for household and similar

See 6





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purposes. They are used for commercial purposes such as keeping crockery warm, processing of food and keeping processed food warm, in areas not open to the public, for example in kitchens of restaurants, canteens, hospitals and in commercial enterprises such as bakeries and butcheries.


warming plates and similar appliances for household use or use in the following environments (IEC 60335-2-12:

See 6

9 DE01 165-169 Scope ed There was no proposal in the DC for modifying the Scope. The editorial team added the new following text: warming plates and similar

appliances used in the following environments (IEC 60335-2-12):

• staff kitchen areas in shops, offices and other working environments;

• farm houses;

• by clients in hotels, motels and other residential type environments;

• bed and breakfast type environments.

Appliances like toasters (-2-48) differ depending on whether they are open for the public or only used in commercial kitchens.But appliances to keep crockery or food warm often are placed open to the public (see picture). The current standard takes this already into account. Therefore, in this part the new lines must be deleted.






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Figure 1 Plate dispenser

Figure 2 Warm food counter

10 DE02 205-207 3.1.9 ed The editorial team has added the words “and detachable electrical parts” after “Motors” in other commercial catering equipment parts. These words didn’t come out of any DC for commercial catering equipment.These words haven’t been added in the CDVs for parts 2-36, -42, -47, -48, -49. We can’t see a technical reason for this.Either add the words in the above-

Either add the words “and detachable electrical parts” in parts 2-36, -42, 47, -48, -49 where a similar sentence is included after “Motors”or delete the words in the standards -2-37, -38, -39, -50.

Accepted with the addition “and detachable electrical parts” to read as follows:Motors and detachable electrical parts incorporated in the appliance are





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mentioned standards where the same sentence is included or delete the words in the standards -2-37, -38, -39, -50.

operated under the most unfavourable conditions that can be expected in normal use taking into account the manufacturer's instructions.

11 DE03 233-236 3.5.105 te The installation wall is not related to the type of the appliance. For the testing the appliance must be fixed to an installation wall.

Shift this definition to 3.8 as 3.8.101 Accepted to be renumbered as 3.8.102

12 DE04 253-258 7.12 ed These lines were a proposal of AUNC and have been hastily agreed for part -2-48 and this part in the TC61 web-meeting to be integrated in the standard. The appliances like toasters (-2-48) differ depending on whether they are open for the public or only used in commercial kitchens.But appliances to keep crockery or food warm often are placed open to the public (see picture). The current standard takes this already into account. Therefore, in this part the new lines must be deleted.

Figure 3 Plate dispenser






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Type of comment



13 US02 260-267 3.6.106, 3.6.107

These terms are in 3.8 of the other MT32 CDV’s

Renumber as 3.8.101 and 3.8.102 Comment withdrawn by USNC during the meeting

13 bis




14 DK03 323 7.12 te The addition to this line reading "containing hob elements" is not part of any previous proposal. It is not likely that appliances in this scope of this standard are containing hob element (but induction heat sources may be incorporated in the

In line 323 delete "containing hob elements"

Accepted





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appliances e.g. to heat water) and therefor this addition should be included.

15 CH03 330 7.12 ed Improve formulation. Delete “the” before “manufacturer”. Refer to EG1


17 JP03 342-343 7.12 See JP1 Add the following requirement at after seventh sentence.The instructions shall include the substance if this appliance can be used in the areas open to the public.

See 6

18 JP04 420 8.1.1 See JP1 Add the following requirement at after first sentence.This clause of Part 1 is applicable except as follows.Modification: If the appliance can be used in the area open to the public, test probe 18 is applied.

See 6

19 DE05 before 452

10.1 ed Though 61/6085/DC proposed no change and there was no comment on this clause int the web-meeting 2020, the sentence that should make clear what part is to be modified, was deleted by the editorial group.The sentence, that was deleted “Instead of the first paragraph of the requirement, the following applies:” For what reason? Did the editorial group think that it didn’t fit (anymore?) to part 1.No explanation at all what is to be modified, will lead to discussions and misunderstandings however.

Add before line 452:“Instead of the first paragraph of the requirement, the following applies:”

Accepted

20 DE06 before 479

10.2 ed Though 61/6085/DC proposed no change and there was no comment on this clause int the web-meeting 2020, the sentence that should make clear what part is to be modified, was deleted by the editorial group.


Accepted





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The sentence, that was deleted “Instead of the first paragraph of the requirement, the following applies:” For what reason? Did the editorial group think that it didn’t fit (anymore?) to part 1.No explanation at all what is to be modified, will lead to discussions and misunderstandings however.


Accepted

22 US04 541 11.4 te Per decision on US01 in 61/6105A/INF If the temperature rise limits of motors, transformers or electronic circuits are exceeded, the test is repeated with the appliance supplied at 1,06 times rated voltage. In this case, only the temperature rises of motors, transformers and electronic circuits the component for which the temperature rise limits were exceeded are measured.

Accepted to remove lines 539 to 541.






See 6




Accepted

25 DK04 580-586 15.1.1 te Following up on the previous DK comment (DK 06 in 61/6105A/INF) about the position of height-adjustable feet and the response from TC61:


"and adjustable feet shall be set at the maximum height in accordance with

Accepted with the following modification to line





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The explanation from TC61 is that the intent is to splash against the side of the appliance enclosure. However, the IP-test corresponding with the IP classification of the appliance (e.g., IPX4) will already be taking care of this and therefor in our opinion this is not the intent of the splash test.



the instruction for use."


580:



Replace the text in line 585 to 588: “For all other appliances, the bowl is placed on the same plane where the appliance





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is placed and is moved around in such a way as to splash the appliance from all directions. During the test, the water pressure is so regulated that the water splashes up to 100 mm above the bottom of the bowl. The bowl is not positioned underneath the appliance.”

26 SA01 580 15.1.1 Paragraph 2



See 25

27 DE08 640-642 19.1 ed To align the wording with other commercial catering parts (see part 2-36 …) delete the two commas (although it might be grammatically correct).


“A control or switching device that is intended for different settings corresponding to different functions of the same part of the appliance is, in addition, set in the most unfavourable setting irrespective of the manufacturer's instructions.”


“A control or switching device that is intended for different settings corresponding to different functions of the same part of the appliance is in addition set in the most unfavourable setting irrespective of the manufacturer's instructions.”





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28 CH06 651 19.2 ed Correction of typo. Replace “Surfaces” with “surfaces”. Accepted

29 JP05 726-727 20.2 See JP1 Add the following requirement at after last paragraph.

Modification: If the appliance can be used in the area open to the public, test probe 18 is applied.

See 6




or







Accepted

32 DE10 785-787 22.106 te The requirement: “Thermal controls shall not be incorporated in connectors complying with the standard sheets of IEC 60320-3 or IEC 60309-2.”was not in the DC. Where does it come from?Thermal controls incorporated in connectors are not used in commercial catering equipment.The new requirement was integrated in parts -2-37, -38, -39, -48, -49, -50 but not integrated in parts 2-36, -42, -47. Why not in these parts too if






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Type of comment


the requirement is considered reasonable for commercial catering equipment?





Accepted. The same requirement shall be included in 2-36, 2-42, 2-47, etc. EG1 will manage these updates.

34 DE09 797 20.101 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted in the web-meetings 2020 but was forgotten in the CDV.

Add “s” after “motor”. Accepted

35 DE11 832-841 25.3 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted in the web-meetings 2020. In the CDV it was completely rewritten by the editorial group. That was done also for part -2-37 but with an additional paragraph (see DENC-comment on 25.3 on 61/6159/CDV) Text of 61/6085/DC:“Remove the last sentence:‘Compliance is checked by inspection.’ “

Text of the CDV:“Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance. If the appliance is provided with a set of

To align part 2-38 with 2-37, 2-36 and the other commercial catering equipment modify lines 832 - 841 to read as follows:“The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance.If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”

Accepted





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Type of comment


terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, they shall be suitable for the type X attachment of the cord. In both cases, the instructions shall give full particulars of the supply cord. The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”

The cord anchorage isn’t anymore a requirement.

36 CH08 855, 856

27.2 ed It is not clear whether the text in line 854 - 855 and the text in line 856 are related as “and” or “or”.

For improved clarity, add “and” after each semicolon.

Accepted to add “and” at the end of line 856

37 DK07 892-897 30.101 te As agreed for DK10 in 61/6105A/INF the proposed cl. 30.101 should not have been included.

Delete line 892-897 of the proposal Accepted

38 US05 892-897 30.101 te Per decision on DK10 in 61/6105A/INF Delete lines 892-897 See 37


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33. IEC 60335-2-50: Particular requirements for commercial electric bains-marie 61/6167/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6289/RVC New EditionAlso taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/JPNC)48, 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT32)64


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Type of comment



Noted





3 CH02 11 FOREWORD

ed A semicolon is missing at the end of the sentence.

Add a semicolon at the end of the sentence.

Accepted

4 CH03 16 FOREWORD


A full stop is missing at the end of the sentence.

Accepted


Now, TC61 adapt the way to move the requirements for open to the public in commercial appliances standards such as -2-48(toasters), -2-49(hot cupboards) and -2-50(bains-marie) to the household appliances standards, because Part 1; ed.6 adapt the test probe 18. And such


Change to: This International Standard deals with the safety of electrically operated commercial bains-marie not intended for household and similar use, their rated voltage being not more than 250 V for single-phase appliances connected between one phase and neutral, and 480 V for other appliances.






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Type of comment


appliances open to the public are assumed to be used mainly in hotel buffets.However, we mistakenly forget the differences between commercial and household appliances standards other than test probe 18. The number of loads and heating periods are different in clause 10, 11 and other clauses, for instance between -2-48 and -2-9. If the appliances used in open to the public such as hotel buffets are tested accordance with -2-9, we would evaluate such appliances with some weaker requirements. Because these appliances in hotel buffets are used by much more clients for longer periods than the other appliances normally specified in -2-9. In this case, these additional requirements have to be added in -2-9 specified only for the appliances used in open to the public such as hotel buffets. (It means that the appliances used in open to the public should be also additionally distinguished in the instruction to the normal household appliances.) These problems are not only for -2-48, -2-49 and -2-50, but also -2-90(microwave ovens). In the case of -2-90, the number of door endurance test and door abuse tests are also different to the household standard; -2-25. And these appliances are not only used in hotel buffets, but also convenience stores and department stores as used in open to the public. We have to bring many requirements from -2-90 to -2-25 for the appliance open to the public. We believe that the other commercial standards would be having same problems.






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Type of comment


Finally, we emphasize an area open to the public in clause 8.1.1 and 20.2 of Part 1: ed.6 is do considered for commercial use. Then we should also modify the following current sentence of Part 1 when we take this way.

Test probe 18 is not applied to appliances for commercial use unless they are intended to be installed in an area open to the public.

6 DK02 116 1 te The specification that these appliances are used in areas not open to the public is not correct. Bains-marie's are often used in for example canteens and buffet-restaurants at self-service counters and placed in the public area of the restaurant or canteen. As these products are used in public areas, this will include children at all ages, elderly, and people with special needs. The draft standard does not take this into account e.g., it allows a temperature rise of 25 K in note b) in table 101. Furthermore, according to 61/6106A/INF the use of probe 18 was decided not to be relevant. Consequently, the standard does not give the sufficient level of safety to the consumers mentioned above.

DK NC propose to transfer the proposal for discussion in MT4 for relevant modifications including the possible need to also include test probe 19.

Modify the scope to indicate that appliances may be used in areas open to the public.

Please refer the draft standard back to MT4 to solve the problem with the surface temperatures and the aspect of test probes



(line 135):Appliances for heating liquids for household use





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covered by IEC 60335-2-15 and used in the following environments by laymen:

(after line 208)3.8 Definitions relating to miscellaneous matters3.8.103area open to the publicarea in which the general public, including children, may have accessNote 1 to entry: Examples are canteens and self-service restaurants.

7.12 Addition

The manufacturer shall declare that the appliance is also intended to be used in an area open to thepublic or, if the appliance is not suitable for use in an area open to





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the public, the instruction shall include the substance of the following warning:


11.8 Addition:

For appliances intended to be installed in areas open to the public, the temperature shall not exceed the values shown in Table 101 <reported in the next row>Accepted in principle, but the Table to be aligned to the latest version from MT4 and footnote b to be applied only for appliances and parts situated more than 850 mm above the floor after installation. In addition, the title of the Table will be modified as follows: Maximum





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temperature rises of external accessible surfaces for appliances intended to be installed in areas open to the publicunder normal operating conditions.As a consequence, clause 7 shall be aligned with the addition of the symbol and warning concerning hot surfaces.





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Table 101 – Maximum temperature rises of external accessible surfacesunder normal operating conditions

Surface





installation b



38425158

42495662











7 JP02 116 Clause 1 See JP1 Remove “not open to the public”.Change to: These appliances are not intended for household and similar purposes. They are used for commercial processing of food in areas not open to the public, for

See 6





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example in kitchens of restaurants, canteens, hospitals and in commercial enterprises such as bakeries and butcheries..

8 CH04 134 1 ed Wrong punctuation. At the end of the third dashed item, replace the full stop with a semicolon.

Accepted

9 CH05 135 1 ed Wrong punctuation. At the end of the fourth dashed item, replace the semicolon with a colon.

Accepted

10 DE01 135-139 Scope ed There was no proposal in the DC for modifying the Scope. The editorial team added the new following text: appliances for heating liquids used in

the following environments (IEC 60335-2-15);

• staff kitchen areas in shops, offices and other working environments;

• farm houses;

• by clients in hotels, motels and other residential type environments;

• bed and breakfast type environments.

Appliances like toasters (-2-48) differ depending on whether they are open for the public or only used in commercial kitchens.But appliances like bain maries often are placed open to the public (see picture). The current standard takes this already into account. Therefore, in this part the new lines must be deleted.






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Likewise, annex B from part



or alternatively:









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1 has not been deleted.


appliances for heating liquids for household use or use in the following environments (IEC 60335-2-15):

See 6

13 US02 158 3.1.4 ed Should be Note 101 to entry Note 101 to entry Accepted

14 DE02 172-174 3.1.9 ed The words “in the intended manner” haven’t been deleted as proposed in 61/6086/DC and accepted in the Web Meetings. To align the wording in all parts 2 (for commercial catering equipment) it should be deleted in this part too.The editorial team has added the words “and detachable electrical parts” after “Motors”. These words didn’t come out of any DC for commercial catering equipment.These words haven’t been added in the CDVs for parts 2-36, -42, -47, -48, -49. We can’t see a technical reason for this.Either add the words in the above-mentioned standards where the same sentence is included or delete the words in the standards -2-37, -38, -39, -50..

Modify lines 172 - 174 to read as follows:“Motors incorporated in the appliance are operated in the intended manner under the most unfavourable conditions that can be expected in normal use taking into account the manufacturer's instructions.”Either add the words “and detachable electrical parts” in parts 2-36, -42, 47, -48, -49 where a similar sentence is included after “Motors”or delete the words in the standards -2-37, -38, -39, -50.


15 DK03 172-174 3.1.9 te The proposed and agreed content of 61/6086/DC has not been implemented

Replace line 172-174 with the following:

"Motors incorporated in the appliance are operated in the intended manner under the most severe unfavourable conditions that can be expected in normal use, taking into account the manufacturer's instructions"

See 14

16 US03 200-207 3.8.103, 3.8.104

ed These should be relocated to 3.6 Add the following heading and renumber these as 3.6.101 and 3.6.1023.6 Definitions relating to parts of

Accepted





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an appliance3.6.1013.6.102

16bis




17 DE03 219 5.102 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted in the web-meetings 2020 but it was forgotten to delete a comma after “incorporating” in the CDV.

Modify line 219 as follows:“Appliances, when assembled in combination with, or incorporating, other appliances,”

Accepted


19 DE04 250-255 7.12 ed These lines were a proposal of AUNC and have been hastily agreed for part -2-48 and this part in the TC61 web-meeting to be integrated in the standard. Appliances like toasters (-2-48) differ depending on whether they are open for the public or only used in commercial kitchens.But appliances like bain maries often are placed open to the public (see picture). The current standard takes this already into account. Therefore, in this part the new lines must be deleted.






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20 JP03 255-256 7.12 See JP1 Add the following requirement at after sixth sentence.The instructions shall include the substance if this appliance can be used in the areas open to the public.

See 6

21 DE05 310-314 7.102 + 7.103

ed The proposal of the DC was not accepted in the web-meetings 2020. The CDV is wrong.

Modify lines 310-314 as follows:7.102Appliances or the detachable electrical parts of appliances intended to be partially immersed in water for cleaning shall be marked with a line that clearly indicates the maximum depth of immersion, together with the substance of the following warning:Do not immerse beyond this line.If there is any seam or seal that causes the appliance or part not to withstand the treatment specified in 15.102, the line indicating the maximum depth of immersion shall be at least 50 mm below any such seam or seal when the appliance or the part is in the position in which it is to be cleaned.

Accepted





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Compliance is checked by inspection and measurement.7.103Containers intended to be filled by hand or a manually operated tap shall be marked with an indicated level.Compliance is checked by inspection.

22 DK04 310-311 7.102 te According to meeting agreement (61/6106A), cl. 7.102 should remain unchanged. However, this content has changed to now be identical with 7.103.

Reinstate the original content of cl. 7.102 so that it reads:

"7.102 Appliances or the detachable electrical parts of appliances intended to be partially immersed in water for cleaning shall be marked with a line that clearly indicates the maximum depth of immersion, together with the substance of the following warning:

Do not immerse beyond this line

If there is any seam or seal that causes the appliance or part not to withstand the treatment specified in 15.102, the line indicating the maximum depth of immersion shall be at least 50 mm below any such seam or seal when the appliance or the part is in the position in which it is to be cleaned."

See 21

23 JP04 317 8.1.1 See JP1 Add the following requirement at after first sentence.This clause of Part 1 is applicable except as follows.Modification: If the appliance can be used in the area open to the public, test probe 18 is applied.

See 6





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Accepted




With


See 6




Accepted

27 DE09 393-398 15.1 ed Though 61/6086/DC proposed no change and there was no comment on this clause int the web-meeting 2020, the clause was completely deleted. Presumably the text should have been replaced by that of Part 37, in which the note has been converted into normative text.

Modify lines 393 - 398 to read as follows:15.1 Addition: Any detachable electrical parts or appliances, other than stationary appliances, not marked with a line indicating the maximum depth of immersion for cleaning, or for which there is no warning against partial or complete immersion in water for cleaning in the instructions, are also subjected to the tests of 15.102.

Accepted

28 DK05 403-409 15.1.1 te Following up on the previous DK comment (DK 04 in 61/6106A/INF) about the position of height-adjustable feet and the response from TC61:The explanation from TC61 is that the intent is to splash against the side of the appliance enclosure. However, the IP-test corresponding with the IP classification of the appliance (e.g., IPX4) will already be taking care of this and therefor in our opinion this is not the intent of the splash





“and adjustable feet shall be set in accordance with the instruction for use to the most





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test.



unfavourable height.”


Replace the text in line 408 to 411: “For all other appliances, the bowl is placed on the same plane where the appliance is placed and is moved around in such a way as to splash the appliance from all directions. During the test, the water pressure is so regulated that the





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water splashes up to 100 mm above the bottom of the bowl. The bowl is not positioned underneath the appliance.”

29 SA01 403 15.1.1 Paragraph 2



See 28

30 DE10 417-419 15.2 ed A copy and paste fault has already happened in 61/6086/DC. The sentence “A litre of the solution is poured steadily over a period of 1 min on to the centre of any heated surface.” isn’t from the current standard -2-50.” So is the Note 101.

Modify lines 417 - 419 to read as follows:The water-well and steam generators of appliances intended to be filled by hand are completely filled with the solution and a further quantity equal to 15 % of their capacity but not more than 10 l is poured in steadily over a period of 1 min.The food containers of dry-heat-type bains-marie are filled with the solution and placed in the appliance. A further quantity of 1 l is then added to each container.Appliances intended to be filled by a manually operated tap or automatically are connected to a water supply having the maximum supply pressure indicated by the manufacturer. The means for controlling the incoming water is held fully open and the filling continued for 1 min after the first evidence of overflow, or until a further protective system operates to stop the inflow.

Accepted





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31 CH08 439 15.102 ed Correction of typo. Delete one full stop at the end of the sentence.

Accepted

32 DE06 before 452



Comment withdrawn during the meeting by DE NC

33 DE07 before 479



Comment withdrawn during the meeting by DE NC

34 DE11 484-486 19.1 ed To align the wording with other commercial catering parts (see part 2-36 …) delete the three commas (although it might be grammatically correct).

Modify lines 484 - 486 to read as follows:“A control or switching device that is intended for different settings corresponding to different functions of the same part of the appliance is, in addition, set in the most unfavourable setting, irrespective of the

Accepted





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manufacturer's instructions.”

35 JP05 496-497 20.2 See JP1 Add the following requirement at after Clause 20.1.

Modification: If the appliance can be used in the area open to the public, test probe 18 is applied.

See 6




or







Accepted

38 US05 541, 544



Accepted



Accepted





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As such this constitute a technical change and will require a seperate proposal and cannot be supported

part of the previous proposal (61/6086/DC) or otherwise the related discussion (61/6106A/INF) and therefore cannot be added without a separate proposal and associated technical



Accepted. The same requirement shall be included in 2-36, 2-42 and 2-47. EG1 will manage these updates.





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discussions.

42 DE13 593-606 25.3 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted in the web-meetings 2020. In the CDV it was completely rewritten by the editorial group. That was done also for part -2-37 (see DENC-comment on 25.3 on 61/6159/CDV) and without the 3rd paragraph for part -2-38)Text of 61/6086/DC:“Remove the last sentence:‘Compliance is checked by inspection.’ “


To align part 2-38 with 2-37, 2-36 and the other commercial catering equipment modify lines 593 - 606 to read as follows:“The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance.If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”

Accepted





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43 CH10 620, 621





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34. IEC 60335-2-52: Particular requirements for oral hygiene appliances 61/6168/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6301/RVCNew EditionAlso taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT31)15, 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT4)29The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6301A/RVC




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Noted

2 CI/ANEC 01


3 IT01 ge The Italian NC does not support the Noted





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proposal for the following reason:4 IT02 ge In clause 30.2 of Part 1, the products

with REMOTE OPERATION shall be classified as unattended appliance and tested in accordance to clause 30.2.3. In this draft, clause 30.2.3 is not applicable. How does the product shall be tested?

Change clause 30 of 2-52 as follow:30 Resistance to heat and fireThis clause of Part 1 is applicable except as follow:30.2 Replace the fifth paragraph with the following:Appliances for remote operation are considered to be attended appliances and consequently, they are subjected to the test of 30.2.2

30.2.3 Not applicable.

Not accepted, but it was agreed that 30.2.3 is applicable; therefore, line 355 of the CDV shall be removed.It was considered that some types of products covered by 2-52 may have a cleaning mode that is operated remotely while the user is not present.




6 CH02 9 FOREWORD



Accepted





Accepted





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appliances for heating liquids for household use or use in the following environments (IEC 60335-2-15):

Withdrawn (copy of -2-50 comment)

9 US02 158 3.1.4 ed Should be Note 101 to entry Note 101 to entry Withdrawn (copy of -2-50 comment)

10 NL01 164 6.2 te What is meant with “hand-held part” in this context?Based on 22.36 hand-held parts shall be class III construction having a voltage not exceeding 24 V.Hence, they can only be of class III construction acc. 22.36 and are therefore covered by lines 165-167.

Delete line 164. Accepted with the following wording in line 165-167 and remove line 164:- Class III appliances or parts of Class III construction, including handheld parts, that are at least IPX4.

11 CH03 165 6.2 ed Wrong interpunctuation. Delete the semicolon at the end of the third dashed item.

Accepted

12 NL02 165-167 6.2 te The ingress of water is not only affecting the electric shock hazard, but also other hazards need to be addressed like fire, dangerous malfunction.

For this reason, NLNC proposes to apply IPX4 for class III appliances and parts of class III construction.

Modify as follows:

- class III appliances or parts of class III construction that are at least IPX4.

See 10

13 JP01 176-177 8.1.1 te Test probe 19 should be applied only for toothbrushes that are intended to be used to brush infants’ teeth.

Add the following underlined text.

For toothbrushes that are intended to be used to brush infants’ teeth, in addition to the use of test probe 18, test probe 19 of IEC 61032:1997 is also applied as specified for test probe 18.

Not accepted. In particular because it is not clear what is considered to be an infant age.

14 DK02 194-198 11.7 te Since this part of the proposal is a replacement of 11.7 in the part-1 it

Add the following after line 198: Accepted





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does not provide for an appropriate implementation of the heating test for battery operated appliances while integral or separable batteries are being charged in the appliance.

It is assumed that the conditions specified in the part-1 for batteries that are charged the appliance is not performing its intended function are appropriate and suitable also for appliances in the scope of this standard and therefor the requirement from the part-1 can be included directly.

However, for appliances that can perform teir intended function while the batteries are also being charged, the requirement for continuous operation as specified the part-1 may not be appropriate and so this part may need to be adapted to suit appliances covered by this standard.

"For appliances incorporating integral batteries or separable batteries not disconnected from the appliance for charging purposes:– the battery that has been fully discharged is charged for 1 h, while the appliance is operated as specified , if allowed by the construction of the appliance;– the battery that has been fully discharged is charged, for a duration of 24 h or until it is fully charged whichever is shorter, without the battery-operated appliance performing its intended function."

15 US03 200-207 3.8.103, 3.8.104





accessible surfaceswith

Temperature rise limits of external accessible surfaces


17 US04 237 7.6 ed Caution should be lower case caution, hot surface Withdrawn (copy of -





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2-50 comment)

18 NL03 246 20.1 te It is the intend to exclude fixed appliances and hand-held appliances from the stability test. That is however not how it is currently written.NLNC believes a comma should be placed after “hand-held appliances”.

Add “,” after “hand-held appliances” Accepted

19 US05 246-249 20.1 te The requirement indicates that the appliance must have adequate stability, but then 264-274 allows the appliance to overturn if it meets certain criteria that reduce the hazards of the appliance overturning. The requirement should indicate that ‘adequate stability’ is not necessary if the overturning of the appliance does not result in a hazard.

Add at the end of line 249:However, adequate stability is not necessary if overturning of the appliance does not present a risk of fire, electric shock or injury.

Accepted

20 JP02 280-281 20.2 te Test probe 19 should be applied only for toothbrushes that are intended to be used to brush infants’ teeth.

Add the following underlined text.

For toothbrushes that are intended to be used to brush infants’ teeth, in addition to the use of test probe 18, test probe 19 of IEC 61032:1997 is also applied as specified for test probe 18.

See 13

21 DE01 296-321 21.10221.103Mechanical strength

Mechanical strength against crushingMechanical strength against dropping

21.10221.103

te The mechanical strength of the enclosure of a detachable power supply part shall be as a general requirement included in part 1.

Shift this requirement into part 1 of IEC 60335

Not accepted, but in their activity WG 48 shall evaluate if it will be suitable to include 21.102 and 21.103 from the CDV under discussion in Part 1.





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22 DE02 296-308 21.102Mechanical strength

Mechanical strength against crushing

21.102 te Power supply parts of oral hygiene appliances (e.g. electrical toothbrushes, oral irrigators) are not placed on the floor. They are placed in a bathroom at an elevated height.Hence, a requirement against crushing when positioned on the floor is meaningless. The consumer meaningful safety requirements are well covered by the mechanical strength against dropping (21.103). The requirement “mechanical strength against crushing” has been re-applied from devices which are operated on the floor. For such devices the requirement makes sense. However, oral care appliances are not used while users sitting on the floor nor are such devices usually placed on the floor.

Remove paragraph 21.102 Accepted

23 DK03 378-383 B.11.1 te The proposal does not provide for an appropriate implementation of the heating test for battery operated appliances when they are not connected to the supply for charging.As no modification is provided for B.11.1 in the part 1, it means that battery-operated appliances that cannot perform their intended function while the batteries are being charged are required to be operated continuously until depletion of the battery.

This type of operation is different from what is otherwise specified for appliances in this standard and therefor may not be appropriate for the type of operation foreseen by these appliances.


B.11.1 replacement:


Battery-operated appliances with non-rechargeable batteries, with detachable batteries, and those incorporating integral batteries or separable batteries not disconnected from the appliance for charging purposes, and that cannot perform their intended function while the batteries are being charged, are operated for five cycles, each cycle comprising an operating period of 3 min and a rest period of 1 min.During the rest period, the reservoir of

Accepted to replace the first paragraph of B.11 in Part 1 by the following: Battery-operated appliances are tested under the conditions of normal operation, the appliance is operated for 5 cycles, where one cycle comprises an operating period of 3 min and a rest period of 1 min.During the rest period, the reservoir of oral irrigators is refilled.





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It must be assumed that appliances are operated in the same way while supplied from the batteries as when supplied from the mains. and therefore, it is proposed to contain the same requirement in cl. 11.7 as in B.11.1

oral irrigators is refilled.If the reservoir empties during the operating period, it is refilled and the test is continued.

If the reservoir empties during the operating period, it is refilled and the test is continued.And delete in the 3rd paragraph of Part 1, the word “continuously”.


Since a more clear text is introduced in cl. 8.1.1, it is proposed to use the same text here as well.

Also, in cl. 8.1.1 probe 19 is only applied to toothbrushes while in annex B the application is not limited and therefor apply to all appliances.

The DK NC question whether this is an oversight or intended? The text may need to be modified accordingly



Accepted with the following wording: “in addition to the use of test probe 18, for toothbrushes test probe 19 of IEC 61032:1997 is also applied as specified for test probe 18.”


Since a more clear text is introduced in cl. 8.1.1, it is proposed to use the same text here as well.



Accepted with the following wording: “in addition to the use of test probe 18, for toothbrushes test probe 19 of IEC 61032:1997 is also applied as specified for test probe 18.”





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ed Wrong format of headline. Format “Bibliography” as bold headline. Accepted

27 US06 541, 544




28 DE03 372-378 Annex B Complete clause

te Annex B of part 1 is applicable (with additions to clause 22)This would imply that tables B.2 and B.3 of 60335-1 (Annex B, clause 20) would be taken over for part 2-52 without specific changes for electrical oral hygiene appliances.However, all batteries used for oral hygiene appliances have capacities very well below the upper value of the lowest category (line 1 in both tables).Today´s batteries used on oral hygiene appliances have not more than 1Ah.As change versus Annex B of part 1, in particular new classification tables and values for oral hygiene appliance batteries should be introduced which reflect capacities which occur for batteries of oral hygiene appliances and the respective correlated gas volumes.Re-define both tables and include values which are meaningful for oral hygiene appliances. In particular, provide more granularity for the line with the lowest capacities.Include additional lines:0.2≤Ah<1 / 1≤Ah<3 / 3≤Ah<5Respective openings: 6mm2 / 10mm2 / 20mm2

Addition:B.20.1Insert modified tables (B.2 and B.3).New table B.2

New table B.3

Accepted





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Respective gas volumes: 6ml / 10ml / 20ml


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35. IEC 60335-2-55: Particular requirements for electrical appliances for use with aquariums and garden ponds 35a. 61/6169/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6302/RVC New EditionThe results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6302A/INF




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2 CI/ANEC 01










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4 JP01 ed All the main-clause numbers are missing. Accepted

5 NL01 115149153

Etc.

All Title No title number at main clauses Add title number:1 Scope2 Normative references3 Terms and definitionsEtc.

See 4



See 4





Accepted as an editorial change.

8 DK02 237-238 11.7 te Since this part of the proposal is a replacement of 11.7 in the part 1, it does not provide for an appropriate implementation of the heating test for battery operated appliances while integral or separable batteries are being charged in the appliance.

It is assumed that the conditions specified in the part-1 are appropriate and suitable also for appliances in the scope of this standard and therefor the requirement from the part-1 can be included directly.


"For appliances incorporating integral batteries or separable batteries not disconnected from the appliance for charging purposes:– the battery that has been fully discharged is charged for 1 h, while the appliance is operated continuously performing its intended function, if allowed by the construction of the appliance;– the battery that has been fully discharged is charged, for a duration of 24 h or until it is fully charged whichever is shorter, without the battery-operated appliance performing its intended function."


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Accepted


ReplaceTemperature rise a

with

Temperature rise limits of external accessible surfaces a


Temperature rises of external accessible surfaces a

11 DK03 289 19.101 te The deletion of the note is not supported. The content of the note is technical in nature and so it must be converted to normative text. Although the technical content may not be needed, the deletion of it cannot be made without presenting it is a proposal for discussion through the relevant stages.

Keep the content as the note converted to normative text so that line 289 reads:

"The aerator is not placed in water".

Accepted to add after the first sentence in line 286-287.

12 DK04 339-340 22.101 te The conversion of the note to normative text is not appropriate as the resulting text is not clearly understandable. Implementing the existing text of the note more directly would provide a more accurate and understandable requirement.

Instead of the proposed text, modify line 339-340 so that it reads:

"Keyhole slots, hooks, suction fasteners and similar means, without any further means to prevent the appliance from being inadvertently lifted off the support, are not considered to be adequate means for fixing the appliance securely."

Not accepted.



Accepted

DECISION: Proceed to FDIS for the fourth edition. In addition, 61/6211/DC and 61/6272A/INF to be included in the FDIS. Also, for all FDIS where there was no confirmation at the CDV stage regarding the In Some Countries notes, a Note of the Secretary will be included to draw NCs to identify any In Some Countries notes needing to be retained in the next edition.

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35b. 61/6211/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6272/INF TC 61 Secretariat, Maximum operation depthThe results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6272A/INF




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Noted

2 NO01 3 7.1 ed Spelling error Change to:“Appliances for use in water shall be marked shall be marked to indicate …”

Accepted

3 SA01 3 7.1 Appliances for use in water shall be marked shall be marked to indicate the maximum operating depth, in metres, with a minimum of 1 m using symbol IEC 60417-6444 (2020-12).

remove repeated “shall be marked”

See 2

4 US01 7.1 ed Remove duplicate text Appliances for use in water shall be marked shall be marked to indicate the maximum operating depth, in metres, with a minimum of 1 m using symbol IEC 60417-6444 (2020-12).

See 2

5 NL01 3-4 7.1 ed Proposals contains errors and is difficult to read.

Change to:Appliances for use in water shall be marked shall be marked to indicate with the maximum operating depth, in metres, with a minimum of 1 m, using symbol IEC 60417-6444 (2020-12).

Accepted to insert comma after 1 m.





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6 NL02 6-7 7.12 te As the requirements of 7.1 have been changed (to include a minimum operating depth of 1 m) the requirement in 7.12 needs to be aligned.

Change to:

In the addition replace the second paragraph as follows:The instructions for appliances intended to be fully immersed in water shall state the maximum operating depth, with a minimum of 1 m. If symbol IEC 60417-6444 (2020-12) is used its meaning shall be explained.

Accepted

DECISION: To be included in the FDIS resulting from the discussion of 61/6169/CDV and 61/6302A/RVC

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36. IEC 60335-2-59: Particular requirements for insect killers 61/6170/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6303/RVC New EditionAlso taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT31)16, 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT4)30The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6303A/RVC




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Noted

2 CI/ANEC 01




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review.

4 CH02 9 FOREWORD

ed Wrong punctuation. Replace semicolon with a full stop at the end of the sentence.

Accepted

5 JP01 ed All the main-clause numbers are missing. Accepted

6 NL01 119146151

Etc.

All Title No title number at main clauses Add title number:1 Scope2 Normative references3 Terms and definitions

Etc.

See 5





Accepted

8 US01 217 8.1.1 te There was a decision made on 61/6070/DC for -2-80 to accept a comment similar to JP01 of 61/6110/INF to limit the use of test probe 18 to products situated below 1,8 m based on Guide 117. It is suggested that we adopt similar wording in this part 2 as was discussed for -2-80 (See 61/6115A/INF, JP03 and FR01)

Add the following Modification to 8.1.1.

Test probe 18 of IEC 61032 is not applied to appliances that according to the instructions are required to be mounted at a height exceeding 1,8 m above the floor.

Accepted





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It is assumed that the conditions specified in the part-1 for batteries that are charged while the appliance is not performing its intended function are appropriate and suitable also for appliances in the scope of this standard and therefor the requirement from the part-1 can be included directly.

However, for appliances that can perform their intended function while the batteries are also being charged, the requirement for continuous operation as specified the part-1 does not appropriately correspond to the specification for normal operation in this standard and so this part will need to be adapted to suit appliances covered by this standard.


"For appliances incorporating integral batteries or separable batteries not disconnected from the appliance for charging purposes:– the battery that has been fully discharged is charged for 1 h, while the appliance is operated performing its intended function as specified for normal operation, if allowed by the construction of the appliance;– the battery that has been fully discharged is charged, for a duration of 24 h or until it is fully charged whichever is shorter, without the battery-operated appliance performing its intended function."

Accepted with modification:

Replace line 234:

11.7 Addition:







11 DK03 269 16.101 ed The deletion of the note is not supported. The note is purely informative in nature and so can remain as a note. The information provided may be of relevance to some readers and therefor the note should remain as is

Reinstate the note as a NOTE Accepted.





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12 US02 281 20.2 te There was a decision made on 61/6070/DC for -2-80 to accept a comment similar to JP01 of 61/6110/INF to limit the use of test probe 18 to products situated below 1,8 m based on Guide 117. It is suggested that we adopt similar wording in this part 2 as was discussed for -2-80 (See 61/6115A/INF, JP03 and FR01)

20 Stability and mechanical hazards

This clause of Part 1 is applicable except as follows.

20.2 Modification:

Test probe 18 of IEC 61032 is not applied to appliances that according to the instructions are required to be mounted at a height exceeding 1,8 m above the floor.

Accepted


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37. IEC 60335-2-64: Particular requirements for commercial electric kitchen machines 61/6171/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6290/RVC New EditionAlso taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT32)65The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6290A/INF




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Noted

2 AU01 ed In the forward, It is not clear what edition to use if the latest edition of part 1


Accepted; referred to EG1 for editorial





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precludes use of older part twos.This part 2 is to be used in conjunction with the latest edition of IEC 60335-1 and its amendments unless that edition precludes it; in that case, the latest edition that does not preclude it is used. It was established on the basis of the sixth edition (2020) of that standard.

review.




Direct current (DC) supplied appliances and battery-operated appliances are within the scope of the standard.

Accepted with modification:at the end of the line 122 “including direct current (DC) supplied appliances and battery operatedappliances.”

Replace line 373 with the following:11.7 Addition:Instead of the first paragraph, the following applies.

4 US01 158 1 ed Household kitchen machines should also be included in the list of products not covered under this standard

Add the following dashed item under line 158:kitchen machines for household use (IEC 60335-2-14)

Not acceptedThe household appliances are already excluded in the scope (line 123);

5 US02 180-184, 361-365

3.1.4, 10.1 te Products covered under -2-64 are motor-operated appliances. If they have more than one motor (or load) that can operated at the same time, the rated power input should be based on all loads operating that are capable of operating at the same

Delete lines 180-184 and 361-365 Not acceptedProducts with motor+heating elements are not excluded from the





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time. scope (e.g. appliances that mix and cook at the same time).

5 bis




6 DE01 219 5.102 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted in the web-meetings 2020 but it was forgotten to delete a comma after “incorporating” in the CDV.

Modify line 219 as follows:“Appliances, when assembled in combination with, or incorporating, other appliances,”

Accepted



Comment withdrawn by DKNC during the meeting

8 US03 364-365 10.1 te If US2 is not accepted

In 3.1.4, ‘individual element’ is used to describe multiple loads. This can be understood to be something other than a heating unit or heating element, so that wording is suggested here also.

For appliances having more than one individual element, the total power input may be determined by measuring the power input of each individual element separately (see also 3.1.4).

Not AcceptedAccording to 10.1 (60335-1) the only load involved in case of “multiple loads” are heating elements(motor are already





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covered by 10.1 in Part 1)Proposed modification:“For appliances having more than one heating unit that can be on at the same time, the total power input may be determined by measuring the power input of each heating unit separately (see also 3.1.4).”


It is assumed that the conditions specified in the part-1 for batteries that are charged while the appliance is not performing its intended function are appropriate and suitable also for appliances in the scope of this standard and therefor the requirement from the part-1 can be included directly.

However, for appliances that can perform their intended function while the batteries are also being charged, the requirement for continuous operation as specified the part-1 is not appropriate (considering the


"For appliances incorporating integral batteries or separable batteries not disconnected from the appliance for charging purposes:– the battery that has been fully discharged is charged for 1 h, while the appliance is operated as specified, if allowed by the construction of the appliance;– the battery that has been fully discharged is charged, for a duration of 24 h or until it is fully charged whichever is shorter, without the battery-operated appliance performing its intended function."

Accepted





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approach defined for normal operation and considering the possible need to operate in cycles) and a modification is proposed.

Note it has not been considered if the proposed text feasibly takes the situation defined for normal operation where the appliances is operated at 115% of the no-load input into consideration. As such additional modifications to encompass this may be necessary.

10 DK04 394-400 15.1.1 te Following up on the previous DK comment (DK 02 in 61/6107A/INF) about the position of height-adjustable feet and the response from TC61:The explanation from TC61 is that the intent is to splash against the side of the appliance enclosure. However, the IP-test corresponding with the IP classification of the appliance (e.g., IPX4) will already be taking care of this and therefor in our opinion this is not the intent of the splash test.


Therefor in our opinion the worst-case situation is when the feet are adjusted to the highest setting, leaving the largest opening between the floor and the bottom






Replace lines 395 to 398 with the following: “For appliances normally used on the floor, the bowl is placed on the floor and is moved around in such a way as to splash the appliance from all the directions. During the test, the water





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of the appliance. pressure is so regulated that the water splashes up 150 mm above the bottom of the bowl. The bowl is not positioned underneath the appliance.”


11 SA01 394 15.1.1 Paragraph 2



See 10

12 US04 424-430 15.101 ed Compliance text should be in italic font Italicize lines 424-430 Accepted

13 DE02 445-447 19.1 ed To align the wording with other Modify lines 445 - 447 to read as Accepted





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commercial catering parts (see part 2-36 …) delete the two commas (although it might be grammatically correct).

follows:“A control or switching device that is intended for different settings corresponding to different functions of the same part of the appliance is, in addition, set in the most unfavourable setting irrespective of the manufacturer's instructions.”

14 US05 462 20.2 te Due to 5.21 in the Part 1, where no force is specified, a test probe is to be applied with 1 N force. It is recommended that the 5 N force specified in 20.2 of Part 1 be used.

Add the following as the penultimate sentence in the paragraph:

The test probe is applied with a force of 5 N.

Accepted

15 US06 487, 492

20.101, 20.102

te Due to 5.21 in the Part 1, where no force is specified, a test probe is to be applied with 1 N force. It is recommended that the 5 N force specified in 20.2 of Part 1 be used here also.

Add the following after ‘1997’:


Accepted

16 US07 516-517 20.105 te This is similar to the comments pertaining to 5.21. This rod may or may not be considered a probe. In -2-14, a 5 N force is applied to the cylindrical rod in 20.103, 20.109 and 20.115.

Add the following as a second sentence in the compliance criteria:‘The test rod is applied with a forcenot exceeding 5 N.’

Accepted

17 US08 543 20.109 te Similar to 20.105, there is no force specified for applying the test rod. It is recommended that the force specified in 20.2 for accessibility of moving parts be used.

(This should also be considered for 20.102 of -2-14 in 61/6223/DC)

Add the following at the end of line 543:‘The test rod is applied with a forcenot exceeding 5 N.’

Accepted

18 US09 651-652 20.118 te Due to 5.21 in the Part 1, where no force is specified, a test probe is to be applied with 1 N force. It is recommended that the 5 N force specified in 20.2 of Part 1 be used here also.

Add the following at the end of the first sentence:


Accepted

19 US12 678 21 ed Is this an Addition to 21.1? Add ’21.1’ at the beginning of line 678 Accepted





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Delete the sentence starting in line 694-696 and reinstate Note 1.

or





21 DK06 713 22.102 ed In 61/6087/DC, the word "only" in the sentence was proposed deleted. This deletion has not been included in this document.

In accordance with 61/6087/DC, delete the word "only"

Accepted

22 US10 713 22.102 ed Delete ‘only’ as done in other MT32 CDVs Delete ‘only’ See 21

23 US11 720-724 22.103 te Due to 5.21 in the Part 1, where no force is specified, a test probe is to be applied with 1 N force. It is recommended that the 10 N force specified in IEC 61032 be used here.



Accepted




Accepted





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25 DE03 807-820 25.3 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted in the web-meetings 2020. In the CDV it was completely rewritten by the editorial group. That was done also for part -2-37 (see DENC-comment on 25.3 on 61/6159/CDV) and without the 3rd paragraph for part -2-38)Text of 61/6087/DC:“Modify the third, fourth and fifth sentence of the Addition as follows:If the appliance is provided with a set of terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, they terminals shall be suitable for the type X attachment of the cord.In both cases the instructions shall give full particulars of the power supply cord.Compliance is checked by inspection. “

Text of the CDV:“The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.Appliances intended to be permanently connected to fixed wiring that are provided with cord anchorage and a set of terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, shall allow the connection of the flexible cord after the appliance has been installed in accordance with the instructions.Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance. If the appliance is provided with a set of terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, they shall be suitable for the type X attachment of the cord.

To align part 2-38 with 2-37, 2-36 and the other commercial catering equipment modify lines 807 - 820 to read as follows:“The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance.

If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”

Accepted





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In both cases, the instructions shall give full particulars of the supply cord. If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”

Lines 809 - 812 are very similar to the existing lines 803 - 806 in the current standard.

In lines 809 - 812 the cord anchorage isn’t anymore a requirement. The meaning of the text has been twisted.

26 CH02 834, 835




27 CH03 840 27.2 ed Line 840 seems to be superfluous. Delete line 840. Accepted

28 US13 840 ed Typo Delete line 840 See 27

29 DK08 Annex B te The proposal does not provide for an appropriate implementation of the heating test for battery operated appliances when they are not connected to the supply for charging.As no modification is provided for B.11.1 in the part 1, it means that battery-operated appliances incorporating integral batteries or separable batteries, that cannot perform their intended function while the batteries are being charged are required to be operated continuously until depletion of the battery.

This type of operation is different from what is otherwise specified for appliances in this standard and is not appropriate for the type of operation foreseen by these

Add annex B to the standard with the following content:

B.11.1 replacement:


Battery-operated appliances with non-rechargeable batteries, with detachable batteries, and those incorporating integral batteries or separable batteries not disconnected from the appliance for charging purposes, and that cannot perform their intended function while the batteries are being charged, are operated until depletion of the battery

Accepted with the following wording at the end of the second paragraph:

“or until steady conditions are established, whichever occurs first.”

In addition, replace the note to entry in B.3.1.1 with the following:NOTE TO ENTRY: Operation of the appliance to perform its intended function





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appliances.

It must be assumed that appliances are operated in the same way while supplied from the batteries as when supplied from the mains. and therefore, it is proposed to contain the same requirement in cl. 11.7 as in B.11.1

For appliances with non-rechargeable batteries and detachable batteries or separable batteries that are disconnected from the appliance for charging purposes, the depletedbattery is immediately replaced with another battery that is fully charged, the battery being the model or type reference of the battery provided or indicated in the instructions. The test is repeated until the appliance no longer operates due to depletion of the battery or until the temperature rises have stabilized to values not more than 5 K higher than the temperature rises measured at the same locations during the first test, whichever occurs first.

is specified in 3.1.9.



Not accepted


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38. IEC 60335-2-74: Particular requirements for portable immersion heaters 61/6172/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6293/RVC New Edition

DECISION: This item will not be discussed. The CDV was approved with no negative votes and will proceed directly to publication considering the editorial comments received.


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39. IEC 60335-2-75: Particular requirements for commercial dispensing appliances and vending machines 39a. 61/6212/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6273/INF SC61B/MT1, Note 102The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6273A/INF




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1 DE01 ge German NC supports this proposal. Noted


Noted

3 AU01 te Keep the standard as is, these devices will be used by the general public and this is why we have specified IEC 60335-2-25

Reject the DC Not accepted

4 NL01 3-4 1 te Similar to the replacement of the reference to IEC 60335-2-25 by IEC 60335-2-90, the reference to IEC 60335-2-24 (household refrigeration) should be replaced by IEC 60335-2-89 (commercial refrigeration) as IEC 60335-2-75 deals with appliances for commercial use.

Replaces lines 3- 4 by the following:Replace the dashed item of NOTE 102 with the following:

- Refrigeration (IEC 60335-2-89);- Heating by microwaves (IEC 60335-2-90).

Accepted with the following text:

- Refrigeration (IEC 60335-2-89);- Heating by microwaves (IEC 60335-2-90);- Professional Ice Cream makers (IEC 60335-2-118).

DECISION: Proceed to CDV for fourth edition and to be aligned with 60335-1 ED6. In addition, the IT NC to develop a DC for 60335-2-75 to address appliances open to the public (aligned with similar requirements discussed during this meeting for 60335-2-48, 2-49 and 2-50) for discussion at the next plenary meeting of TC 61. Also, it was agreed to postpone the Stability Date for 60335-2-75 to 2023.

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39b. 61/6225/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6274/INF Switzerland, Direct resistance heating unitSupplementary document from CH NC: Safety concept analysis on direct resistance heating unit (61/6226/INF)Also taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/CHNC)74, 61(2021WebSeries-I/CHNC)75, 61(2021WebSeries-I/CHNC)76

The comments in 61/6274/INF were not discussed as the supplementary supporting documents 74, 75 and 76 contain a significant amount of specific technical analysis were delivered only few hours before the discussion of the Agenda item and TC 61 members attending the meeting did not have sufficient time to analyse them and verify at their National level. Instead, during the meeting the CHNC introduced the tabled documents identified above and provided further background on the basis for the draft observations provided by the CHNC and the requests for clarification from TC61 members. Therefore, when 61/6274A/INF is circulated it will not include Observations of the Secretariat and will only include the decision provided below.

DECISION: CHNC to develop a 2DC for discussion at the second plenary web meeting to be held in November 2021, considering the CH NC observations in 61(2021WebSeries-I/CHNC)74. It was noted that the CHNC observations noted in 61(2021WebSeries-I/CHNC)74 and the supplementary presentation in 61(2021WebSeries-I/CHNC)76 do not reflect review by MT 23. Concerning the additional test for 22.X.2 similar to cl. 27.5 of Part 1 regarding comment 36 in document 61(2021WebSeries-I/CHNC)74 it was considered that the 2DC should not cover the tests carried out with an LCR meter which costs, in particular when suitable for measuring at frequencies in the region of 1 MHz are quite high. The verification of compliance can be made with the other test proposed (calculation according to IEC 60287-1-1:2014 clause 2.1).

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40. IEC 60335-2-78: Particular requirements for outdoor barbecues 61/6173/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6294/RVC New EditionThe results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6294A/RVC




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Noted





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or alternatively:





3 AU01 Forward ed In the forward, It is not clear what edition to use if the latest edition of part 1 precludes use of older part twos








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4 DK02 115-117 1 te The DK NC does not agree with the way note 1 has been implemented as normative text. In note 1 restaurants and hotels were examples of appliances covered by the standard. As this text has been implemented it is no longer example but may effectively be percieved as a limitation to such appliances only.

Instead, we propose to include the example similar to how it is implemented in for example 61/6169/CDV (60335-2-55)

Instead of the proposed modification in line 115 and 116 insert the following as a new paragraph after line 116:

"Examples of such appliances are those used in restaurants and hotels"

Not accepted

5 CH02 195, 196

7.12 ed As exception, parts of text required by 7.12 to be provided in the instructions need not to be formatted in bold, even when being defined terms (in general, users of appliances do not have access to standards, hence they do not know the meaning of formatting of words).

Format “class I appliances” in roman, not in bold.

Not accepted

6 DK03 226-227 11.7 ge While appliances in the scope of this standard are unlikely to be battery-operated it should be considered that the replacement of 11.7 in part-1 effectively exclude the heating test for battery-operated appliances containing batteries (integral or separable) when they that are in the appliance.

It is noted that cl. 12 has been implemented as applicable and so it may be relevant to consider adding relevant requirements for the heating test accordingly.

- See 2



Accepted





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8 CI/ANEC 01

11.8 Table 101 te Permitting maximum temperature rises to double the given (safe) limits is an over generous relaxation.

Delete note b from Table 101. See 10



accessible surfaces a, b

with

Temperature rise limits of external accessible surfaces a, b


10 DK04 244 11.8 Table 101 te While the DK DC appreciate the acceptance of our comments on 61/5763/DC regarding surface temperature measurements, we cannot support the option for doubling the surface temperature limits as proposed by footnote b

Delete footnote b of table 101.

As a consequence, also lines 181-183, 188 and 207-215 must also be deleted

Not accepted

DECISION: Proceed to FDIS for third edition. For all FDIS where there was no confirmation at the CDV stage regarding the In Some Countries notes, a Note of the Secretary will be included to draw NCs to identify any In Some Countries notes needing to be retained in the next edition.

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41. IEC 60335-2-81: Particular requirements for foot warmers and heating mats 41a. 61/6214/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6275/INF MT15, VariousThe results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6275A/INF





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1 US01 5 3.104 te Appliances in -2-81 may not have a ‘flexible part’

Replace ‘flexible part’ with ‘appliance’ Accepted with the following wording:control device, external to the functional part, by means of which the power input of the appliance or the temperature of the functional part can be adjusted or regulated

2 NO01 5-6 3.104 ed The word “average” only creates confusion and should be deleted.

Change the text to.“device, external to the flexible part, by means of which the average power input of the appliance or the temperature of the flexible part can be adjusted or regulated”

See 1

3 US02 9 7.1 te Appliances in -2-81 may not have a ‘flexible part’

Appliances to be used with a detachable control unit shall be marked with…

Accepted

4 AU01 17 te These items are very different to blankets that are generally stationary on beds, the hazard is completely different.

Delete line 17 to 19 Not accepted. The only change introduced is to add “units” to the word “control”.

5 NO02 21 25.14 ed This is a “Modification” of the existing text, not an “Addition”.

Change to:“25.14 Addition Modification:”

Not accepted. The wording is modified as follows to correct the editorial error:The test is applicable to appliances fitted with a non-detachable flexible cord.

6 NO03 25 25.15 ed Delete the text, as it is already in the Delete the text. See 7





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standard.

7 US03 25 25.15 te This is only an increase if the appliance has a mass of less than 1 kg.

The pull force for appliances with a mass of 1 kg or less is increased to 60 N

Accepted

8 NL01 293435

30.101 te No rational is given for the relaxation. Delete line 29Delete line 34Delete line 35

Not accepted

9 US04 41 30.102 ed Include this note in the normative text Delete the Note and modify lines 39 and 44 to add ‘, including connections,’ after ‘heating elements and internal wiring’

Accepted

10 US05 57 30.102 te Assuming the test is to be conducted on three samples total, which is common, this line should indicate that the test is repeated on two additional samples

The test is repeated on two additional samples.

Accepted

DECISION: Proceed to CDV for fourth edition and to be aligned with 60335-1 ED6

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41b. 61/6213/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6276/INF Australia, Electric hot water bottlesThe results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6276A/INF




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1 IT01 ge The Italian NC agrees with the proposal and submits the following comments.

Noted

2 CA01 - - - ge The CANC is not sure that these appliances belong in this part 2, but if it is

Update title: Accepted





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accepted to add it here, then there is a need to update the title.

Household and similar electrical appliances – Safety – Part 2-81: Particular requirements for foot warmers, hot water bottles and heating mats

3 DK01 ge This is a new type of appliance not currently covered or foreseen by the existing requirements. For this reason and due to the nature of the appliance as described, such new appliance can only be added to the standard with corresponding requirements (if needed) following a risk assessment in accordance with IEC guide 116.Such assessment does not appear to have been carried out.

There also seem to be some unclarities associated with the requirements as proposed. For example, cl. I appliances are allowed but there is no description of how the protective earth should be constructionally implemented. In the same way there is no indication whether live parts are allowed to be in contact with the liquid and possibly aspects of cl 22.33 need to be further taken into consideration.

The reference to standard "BS 1970" is not appropriate. In case no IEC or ISO standard exist for reference, relevant parts of the referenced standard should be included as part of the proposal instead.

Additionally, requirements for a particular type of appliance should not be in an annex but instead be incorporated throughout the standard as relevant.

Delete the proposal Not accepted





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4 IT02 ge/te In the proposed document the BS standards are mentioned but this is not allowed in the IEC scheme. It is better to use the text of such BS standard and change it with the equivalent text to be added in this proposal.

Accepted to remove the reference to the BS standard or include its content into the proposal itself.

5 US01 ge It would be very helpful if the proposal included a picture or drawing of the appliance and some rationale for the choice in the requirements.

Provide more detailed rationale to help in reviewing the proposal

Noted. Further rationale was provided by the AU NC delegate during the meeting.

6 NO01 Title of the standard

ed Reflect this change in the title of the standard

Change the title to:“Particular requirements for foot warmers and, heating mats and hot water bottles”

See 2

7 US05 3.1.9 te What is normal operation for a hot water bottle? 3.1.9 is not included in the annex and the content of 3.1.9 in the body of the standard does not cover normal operation of this type of appliance.

These heaters are likely to be used under bedding materials, clothing, or similar coverings, so normal operation should take this into account similar to electrically heated bedding of IEC 60335-2-17 where the appliance is covered with test felt to trap heat.

Add 3.1.9 for hot water bottles

Electric hot water bottles are placed between sheets of thermal insulation as specified in Annex XX.

[Annex XX should be copied over from Annex AA of -2-17]

Accepted with the following wording

3.1.9 Addition:electric hot water bottles are operated with the bladder connected to the cradle and placed on the floor of the test corner during heating. Note to entry: The product is removed from the cradle for functional use.

It was also agreed that throughout the 2DC the word “charging” will be replaced by “during





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heating.”

In addition, it was agreed to modify the definition of cradle as follows:

AZ.3.104Cradledevice that incorporates the appliance inlet for attaching the electric hot water bottle to the supply during heatingNote to entry: The hot water bottle is removed from the cradle for functional use.

8 NL01 1-136 te Part 2-81 deals with 2 specific appliances only, that are only used for warming the feet: foot warmers and heating mats for warming the feet. Part 2-17 deals with flexible heating appliances that heat the human body in general. Furthermore part 2-17 already covers heating pads which are rather similar to electric hot water bottles.Therefore NLNC is of the opinion that this proposal should be part of part 2-17 instead of 2-81.

Delete proposal.(with the recommendation to draft new proposal as a modification / addition to part 2-17)

Not accepted

9 NL02 1-136 te If NL01 is not accepted:It does not make sense to put the requirements in an separate annex. For

Delete proposal (with the recommendation to draft new proposal as a modification / addition to

Not accepted to delete the proposal, but the 2DC is to include the





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readability the requirements should be an integral part of the main text of part 2-81.

the main body of part 2-81) requirements in the main body of the standard.

10 NL03 1 ge If NL01 is not accepted:The title of part 2-81 should be changed to reflect the new scope of the standard.

Modify the title of part 2-81 as follows:Part 2-81: Particular requirements for electric foot warmers, heating mats and hot water bottles

See 2

11 NO02 6-136 ed In line with previous discussions regarding introduction of specific types of appliances in annexes, we propose to follow the same policy also for this proposal and instead introduce the requirements at the relevant places in the main body of the standard.

See 9

12 US02 Annex AZ te An annex is not necessary for adding a new product to the standard. These requirements should be incorporated into the body of the standard.

Relocate these requirements to the body of the standard

See 9

13 US03 Annex AZ te If US1 is not accepted -

Based on AZ.25.1, it appears that this Annex was written to cover a battery operated appliance. According to 6.1, 3.104 and 7.1, it may be rechargeable. Use of this Annex in combination with Annex B may be rather difficult, especially since no revisions to Annex B are suggested within this annex.

A revision to 5.17 is recommended to clarify how this Annex is to be applied with Annex B.

Additional revisions may also be necessary for this annex to clarify the applicable requirements from Annex B.

1) Modify 5.17 to clarify how Annex AZ and Annex B are applied to this appliance.

Modify Annex AZ to align with the Part 1, 6th edition structure, where charging and operation when connected to the supply are covered by the main body and operation from the batteries is covered by Annex B.

Not accepted. Products covered by the proposal are not battery supplied.

14 US04 ed The AZ prefix should not be included when the Annex is referring to an existing requirement in the main body of the standard. Similar to Annex B, the AZ

Remove AZ prefix from subclauses referring to existing requirements in the standard and add the following at after line 11:

See 9





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prefix should only be used for new subclauses in the annex. The clause numbers in this

Annex refer to the clause numbers in the main part of this standard that are modified or not applicable. Clauses that are additional to the clauses in the main part of this standard are identified by adding the Annex letter with the numbering starting at 1.

15 NO03 17 te We do not agree to make reference to a national standard.

Delete the reference. See 4

16 IT03 39 AZ.6.1 te The class I should not be allowed for these appliances because can be very dangerous in case a lack of insulation occurs.In general, the safety of the appliances should not be related to a Residual Current Device (RCD).

Delate class I. Not accepted

17 US06 41-46 AZ.7.1 te These items would be suitable as instructions instead of markings.

In addition, editorially, move 2nd and 3rd dash to the 2nd paragraph as these are all text of a marking/instruction and should be together with “the substance of the following”

AZ.7.12 The instructions for the appliance shall include the details of the composition of the contained liquid.

The instructions for the appliance shall include the substance of the following:

- Do not use while charging.- This appliance cannot be

refilled.WARNING: Use a Residual Current Device (RCD) while charging.

Accepted

18 CN01 52-53 AZ.11.8 te If the ambient temperature is 15 ℃, the maximum temperature is 45 + 15 = 60 ℃. If the ambient temperature is 25 ℃, the maximum temperature is 25 + 45 = 70 ℃.

It is suggested that the ambient temperature of the test should be 23 ± 2 ℃ or other suitable range in clause 5.7.

Not accepted

19 NO04 52-53 AZ.11.8 ed We assume all surfaces should be Change the text to: Accepted





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measured. “The temperature rise of the bladder surface in contact with the floor of the test corner and the temperature rise of the upper any other surface of the bladder shall not exceed 45 K”

20 US07 54-56 AZ.11.8 te The time for the 10 inversions should be specified for consistency in testing. In addition, it should be stated that each inversion includes flipping the bottle 180° and returning it to its initial position.

After heating but before measurement of the temperature, the internal fluid shall be mixed by inverting the bladder 10 times within 20 s and then allowing one minute to settle before determining temperatures of the bladder. Each inversion shall consist of turning the bladder 180° from its operating position during the test and then returning it to is original operating position.

Accepted

21 US08 57-65 AZ.16.3 te It is not understood why this modification is necessary. What if there is only one layer consisting of reinforced insulation or multiple layers that are considered to be reinforced insulation? There is currently nothing in the Annex that would prohibit reinforced insulation for Class II constructions of hot water bottles.

Because 16.3 is used as compliance criteria after other tests throughout the standard, it would be better if this were renumbered as 16.101 if it is not deleted as suggested.


22 NO05 67 AZ.19.4 ed This sentence can be deleted, as it is already covered by part 1.


23 US09 70 AZ.19.13 te This should be 10°C below its boiling point.

Replace “K” with “°C” Accepted

24 NO06 72-76 AZ.22.7 te The actual text must be included, to make it possible for NCs to comment.

See 4





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This also raises a general question: When a NC proposes a reference to “whatever standard”, are all the members of a committee supposed to purchase this standard to be able to comment on a proposal? We are of the opinion that this information shall be provided by the proposer.

25 US10 72-76 AZ.22.7 ge Not having access to this referenced standard, there is no way to comment on this test. Reference to an IEC or ISO standard is preferred or inclusion of the test within the standard.

Incorporate the test method within Annex AZ or refer to an IEC or ISO test method

See 4

26 NO07 84-86 AZ.22.102 te The actual text must be included, to make it possible for NCs to comment.

See 4

27 US11 85-86 AZ.22.102 ge Not having access to this referenced standard, there is no way to comment on this test. Reference to an IEC or ISO standard is preferred or inclusion of the test within the standard.

Incorporate the test method within Annex AZ or refer to an IEC or ISO test method

See 4

28 NO08 87-91 AZ.22.103 The text of the referenced procedure should be made available, so that NCs may be able to comment.

See 4

29 US12 92-93 AZ.22.104 te This annex assumes the product comes prefilled with a liquid and is not refillable by the user per AZ.22.104. Why is a refillable appliance excluded?


30 NO09 94-98 AZ.22.105 ge To understand this requirement, we propose a figure to be included.

Include a figure. Accepted

31 US13 103-106 AZ23.101 te These statements are not necessary. The first sentence adds nothing to the test. The second sentence is common lab practice to test the worst case condition. The only normative text of this paragraph is the requirement to conduct the test on 2 samples at right angles to each other.






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This is covered by lines114-115

32 US14 111-112 AZ23.101 te It’s possible to twist an empty water bottle but more difficult to twist a filled bottle. The construction of the appliance may not allow for 360° of rotation.

Add the following to the end of this paragraph:

If the appliance construction does not allow for rotation through 360°, the rotation shall be the maximum rotation allowed by the construction of the appliance.

Accepted

33 US15 116 AZ23.101 te If the construction is understood, the appliance is only energized when placed in its cradle, so this test cannot be performed with the appliance supplied at rated voltage

Delete line 116 Accepted

34 US16 127-129 AZ.25.1 te The electric hot water bottle may be a Class I or II appliance according to AZ.6.1, which will have a supply cord or pins for insertion into socket outlets for connection of the appliance to the supply. It seems like this requirement is intended to require the functional part of the hot water bottle to be a battery operated appliance or to operate only when connected to the cradle.

Delete lines 127-129

Add

AZ.22.X Electric hot water bottles shall be battery-operated appliances or shall only be operable when connected to the cradle.

Not accepted, but add the following at the beginning of line 128:“The functional part of”

35 IT04 129 AZ.25.1 te The supply cord should not be longer than 60 cm in order to make sure that the hot water bottle can be used while charging.

Addition:The supply cord shall not be longer than 60 cm.

Accepted

36 CA02 130-136 AZ.30 - ge This appears to be an abnormal test and would be better suited in clause 19.

Criteria in 19.13 would then apply, but lines 135 and 136 would need to be added as supplemental criteria.

Move the content of lines 131 to 134 to a new subclause “AZ.19.xxx”.

Move the content of lines 135 and 136 into AZ.19.13 as follows:

During the test of 19.xxx, the bladder and cover shall not ignite or deform to such an extent that live parts become

Accepted. The content of lines 135-136 will be considered as an addition to the compliance criteria in 19.13.





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accessible to test probe B of IEC 61032 applied with a force of 10 N.

37 NO10 130-136 AZ.30.101 ed This seems to be more likely a clause 19-test.

Move the test to clause 19. See 36

DECISION: AU NC to prepare 2DC to include the requirements in the main body of the standard and considering the comments and discussion at the meeting summarized in 61/6276A/INF

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42. IEC 60335-2-98: Particular requirements for humidifiers 61/6215/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6277/INF United States, Humidifiers shaped or decorated like an animalAlso taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT46)44The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6277A/INF




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1 ZA01 ed ZA NC does not supports 61/6215/DC with the following technical comment:

Noted

2 AU01 te Support in general, we doubt there will be any class 3 humidifiers. Re word line 4-6 in accordance 2-80

Delete line 4-6 and replace with

6.1 Addition:

Humidifiers shaped or decorated like a toy shall be class III appliances or class III construction with a working voltage not exceeding 24 V.

See 8





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3 CI/ANEC 01

ge We do not support this proposal.

Humidifiers shaped like animals e.g.

do not comply with 22.44 of 60335-1 which says…

Appliances shall not have an enclosure that is shaped or decorated like a toy.NOTE 1 Examples of such enclosures are those representing animals, characters, persons or scale models.


4 DK01 ge To ensure all risks are covered DKNC would like to see a risk assessment performed according to IEC guide 116. Likewise, the proposal should also be reviewed by MT4 in the light of the particular child appealing features.

Noted. As far as the use of test probes, the approach of MT4 for 60335-2-80 was followed.

5 NL01 ge The NLNC supports this proposal but believes some aspects have not been considered.The rational speaks only about shaped like an animal. Within the proposed requirements in 6.1 toys are indicated whereas in the other clauses the term animals is used. This should be aligned.

See 6 and 8

6 NL02 1-45 6.17.1211.8etc

te NLNC believes that the proposal should be extended to appliances shaped or decorated like a toy, instead of only shaped or decorated like an animal.

Change “an animal” into “a toy” Accepted. As a consequence, the word “animal” is replaced by “toy” throughout the text.

7 DK02 4-6 6.1 te The proposed wording is not concise. It partially refers to appliances shaped like a

In line 4 delete the word toy and replace it with the word animal, so that

See 6 and 8





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toy and appliances shaped like an animal. This is not quite the same. Cl. 22.44 does not allow appliances shaped like a toy and therefor cl. .61 shall also not include requirements for appliances shaped like a toy.

cl. 22.44 contain the relevant specification for what is allowed and cl. 6.1 must set the associated classification requirements and therefor the two must be closely aligned.

line 4 reads:

"Humidifiers shaped or decorated like an animal shall be...."

8 NL03 4-6 6.1 te Class III appliances voltages with a rated voltage of 24 V can have internal voltages higher than 24 V, namely up to 42,4 V.

Change to:

Humidifiers shaped or decorated like a toy shall be Class III appliances or Class III construction with a working voltage of no more than 24 V.

Accepted in principle. The requirement in lines 4-6 will be moved as a constructional requirement under 22.105 with the following wording:

22.105 The part of a humidifier shaped or decorated like a toy shall be class III construction with a working voltage of no more than 24 V.

9 ZA02 4-6 6.1 te Leave the current 60335-1, clause 22.44 as it is, as this will attract kids eyes if the appliances are now allowed to be shaped and or decorated like toys

Delete the proposal Not accepted. See also 8.

10 NO01 5, 8, 14, 26, 30, 45

Various ed Is there any reason for saying «animal”, instead of “toy”? If not, change to “toy”.

Change from “animal” to “toy” throughout the document.

See 6





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11 NL04 34-39 21.101 te NLNC believes that using a sling for the drop test is not a suitable manner. Also, the height of 900 mm (working surface) is considered too high as these products are mainly used on floor level.

Changes as follows:

The functional part of the appliance is dropped from a height of 500 mm above a concrete or similar hard surface.

The test is carried out a total of five times with the functional part of the appliance being positioned so that it falls onto the surface in five different orientations.

Accepted

12 NL05 38 21.101 te If NL04 is not accepted:Correction of the text (21.101 is not dealing with hand-held parts of appliances)

Delete the words “hand-held parts of” See 11

13 NL06 43 22.12 te Not only parts that become dislodged as a result of dropping, also parts that come loose as a result of pulling and turning shall not present a choking hazard.So, cl. 22.12 shall be applicable to all accessible parts.

Modify as follows:

22.12 Modification:

For humidifiers shaped or decorated like a toy all accessible parts shall be fixed in a reliable manner so that they will not work loose in normal use if loosening could result in a hazard, including a choking hazard.


For humidifiers shaped or decorated like a toy, all accessible parts shall be fixed in a reliable manner so that they will not work loose in normal use if loosening could result in a choking hazard.

14 ZA03 43-45 22.44 te Leave the current 60335-1, clause 22.44 as it is, as this will attract kids eyes if the appliances are now allowed to be shaped and or decorated like toys

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15 DK03 44-45 22.44 te Additional limitations for appliances that are allowed to be shaped like an animal are needed. For example, there is generally no limitation on the amount of water that can be contained in humidifiers. To prevent the risk of drowning it will be necessary to specify a maximum amount of water allowed in these appliances.


"Humidifiers, other than those that evaporate water by heating and those containing more than X l of water, may be shaped or decorated..."

The value of X to be discussed

Accepted with the following wording: Humidifiers, other than those that evaporate water by heating and those containing more than 4 l of water, may be shaped or decorated...

16 NO02 (after 45)

(22.54) te As we now will start accepting appliances being attractive to children, we think it would be reasonable to only accept these appliances having battery compartments where a tool is needed to access the battery.

Add the following:

“Replace the first paragraph of 22.54 with the following: “Button cells and batteries designated R1 shall not be accessible without the aid of a tool unless the cover of their compartment can only be opened after at least two independent movements have been applied simultaneously.

Accepted with the following wording: Button cells and batteries designated R1 shall not be accessible without the aid of a tool.

DECISION: Proceed to CDV for third edition and to be aligned with 60335-1 ED6. EG1 to include specific requirements for the application of test probes 18 and 19 for appliances covered by 60335-2-98 when preparing the CDV. Based on discussion during the meeting it was agreed to add the following under line 11 in clause 7.12: In addition to the water to be vaporised, only any additional liquids advised by the manufacturer for cleaning or fragrance shall be used.

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43. IEC 603335-2-99: Particular requirements for appliances for commercial electric hoods 61/6174/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6291/RVC New EditionAlso taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT32)66The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6291A/RVC





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Noted

2 AU01 Forward ed In the forward, It is not clear what edition to use if the latest edition of part 1 precludes use of older part twos.










or alternatively:









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4 CH02 136 1 ed Wrong punctuation. Replace the semicolon at the end of the second dashed item with a full stop.

Accepted

5 US01 Various(167, 173, 197, 203, 208, 210, 223, 225, 230, 233…

Various ed It is not clear why ‘hood’ was replaced by ‘appliance’ throughout the standard. It leads to some confusion, especially for a product that is intended for use over an appliance. It then becomes difficult to determine if the appliance is the hood or the appliance under the hood. See line 203-204 and 225 for example.

Change ‘appliance’ back to ‘hood’ Not accepted. It was confirmed the term “appliance” is needed as some of the products covered might not be hoods.

It was agreed to modify the NOTE in lines 203-204 as follows:

...the appliance is used at the same time with appliances burning gas or other fuels;

6 US02 203, 230, 231

ed Remove semicolon after appliance Replace ‘appliance;’ with ‘appliance’ Accepted

7 CH03 233 7.12.1 ed Wrong punctuation. Replace the semicolon at the end of the sixth dashed item with a full stop.

Accepted




9 CH04 271 11.2 ed Wrong punctuation. Insert a full stop between “appliance” Accepted





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and “Vessels”.

10 DE01 271 11.2 ed The full stop behind appliance is missing. Add a in line 271 a full stop after “appliance”.

See 9

11 DE02 326 19.13 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted in the web-meetings 2020 but it was forgotten in the CDV.

Modify line 326 as follows:“shown in tTable 8 of 19.7.“

Accepted

12 DK03 364-366 22.102 te The existing Note has been converted to normative text. However, the note is purely informative in nature and does not contain any requirements and is intended to explain the meaning of "trip free type".

Since this is explanatory and does not contain any requirements, it should not be part of the normative requirement but remain as a note.

Alternatively, a reference to the defined term in IEC 60730 may be given instead.

Delete the sentence starting in line 364-366 and reinstate the NOTE.

or





13 DE03 395-408 25.3 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted in the web-meetings 2020. In the CDV it was completely rewritten by the editorial group. That was done also for other commercial catering parts 2.Text of 61/6088/DC:“Remove the last sentence ‘Compliance is checked by inspection’.“

Text of the CDV:“Fixed hoods shall be constructed so that the supply cord can be connected after the hood has been installed in accordance with the instructions for installation.Appliances intended to be permanently connected to fixed wiring that are provided

To align part 2-99 with 2-37, 2-36 and the other commercial catering equipment modify lines 395 - 408 to read as follows:“Appliances with a mass greater than 40 kg, intended for permanent connection to fixed wiring and not provided with rollers, castors or similar means shall be constructed so that the connection can be done after the appliance has been installed in accordance with the manufacturer's instructions.

The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.

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with cord anchorage and a set of terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, shall allow the connection of the flexible cord after the appliance has been installed in accordance with the instructions.Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance. If the appliance is provided with a set of terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, they shall be suitable for the type X attachment of the cord. In both cases, the instructions shall give full particulars of the supply cord. If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”


Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance.If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”

14 CH05 425, 427

27.2 ed It is not clear whether the text in line 424 - 425 and the text in line 426 - 427 are related as “and” or “or”.


Accepted to add “and” at the end of line 427, and to remove in line 425 the full stop.

15 DK04 487-490 32.101 te This content has not been part of the previous proposal (61/6088/DC) or otherwise the related discussion (61/6108A/INF) and therefore cannot be added without a separate proposal and associated technical discussions.

Delete line 487-490 of the proposal Not accepted. The origin comes from line 32 in 61/6088/DC (the origin of the CDV). EG1 considered that





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this text (in line 32) would cause confusion about the application of test probe 18. To avoid this it was considered that the only clause in part 2-65 that was needed to be specifically referenced was 32.101. The reference was dated because part 2-65 was still to be aligned with Part 1 Ed.6. For that reason, it was introduced at the CDV stage as it was considered to be useful and necessary. At the plenary meeting, all NCs agreed with the reasons for the introduction of the requirement in clause 32.



Not accepted

DECISION: Proceed to FDIS for second edition. In addition, with regard to the reference to 60335-2-65 in clause 32, the origin comes from line 32 in 61/6088/DC (the origin of the CDV). EG1 considered that this text (in line 32) would cause confusion about the application of test probe 18. To avoid this, it was considered that the only clause in part 2-65 that was needed to be specifically referenced was 32.101. The reference was dated because part 2-65 was still to be aligned with Part 1 Ed.6. For that reason, it was introduced at the CDV


stage as it was considered to be useful and necessary. At the plenary meeting, all NCs agreed with the reasons for the introduction of the requirement in clause 32.

For all FDIS where there was no confirmation at the CDV stage regarding the In Some Countries notes, a Note of the Secretary will be included to draw NCs to identify any In Some Countries notes needing to be retained in the next edition.

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44. IEC 60335-2-106: Particular requirements for heated carpets and for heating units for room heating installed under removable floor coverings61/6175/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6304/RVC New EditionThe results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6304A/RVC




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Noted

2 FI01 ge The Finnish NC is in favour of this document but requires that the following national deviation will be added to the Foreword.

Noted

3 IT01 ge The Italian NC casts a positive vote but would like to submit some additional proposals to duly cover heating carpets. The general meaning of the proposed modifications is to consider heating carpets heating appliances like the ones covered by IEC 60335-2-17 and IEC 60335-2-81, from which they differentiate for the bigger dimensions. Therefore, some of the requirements in 2-17 and 2-81 have been considered in the proposed modifications as follows.

Noted

4 AU01 Forward ed In the forward, It is not clear what edition to use if the latest edition of part 1 precludes use of older part twos.


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5 FI02 51 Foreword te Products according to this draft could be used safely in Finland only if it is a Class III heating unit. This kind of product could be used under the doormat in a hall or in a caravan in Finland. In this case the product is subjected to sharp edges and objects (studs, rough sand etc.). According to our opinion, the protection against electric shock is not ensured during the whole lifetime of the heater because the mechanical strength is not sufficient.On the other hand, due to our national installation practice we do not yet have residual current devices in all such locations where this kind of heater could be used.Therefore, class III construction can only be used safely in Finland.

Thus, we are requesting the relevant national difference due to our national installation practice.

Add the following national deviation for Finland into the foreword:The following differences exist in the countries indicated below:

6.1: Class III heating units are only allowed (Finland).

Accepted




Accepted to add a seventh dashed item after line 130 in the scope the following:

- battery-operated





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or alternatively:


appliances


7 IT02 107 Scope te The scope is amended to align it with the proposed definition of portable heating carpets, as defined in 3.5.104. NOTE: The proposed definition needs editorial alignment all along with the text of the document.

Modification:- portable heating carpets and similar appliances

Align the overall text with the definition.

Accepted to add a new dashed item after line 106 as follows:

- Portable heated carpets

8 DK02 109 1 ed The word "as" is missing in the examples of heating units covered by the standard

Add the word "as" in line 109 so that it reads:

"installed directly under materials used as a removable floor covering such as carpet, cushion..."

Accepted

9 IT03 153 3.5.105 ed Re-numbering the subclause. Replace 3.5.105 with 3.5.103. Accepted

10 IT04 157 3.5.104 te It is necessary to add the Definition of portable heating carpet for clarification in the standard.

Portable heating carpet Appliance having an area exceeding 0.5 m2 on which the user's feet or body are placed in order to warm them.


Heated carpet





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NOTE: appliances with an area not exceeding 0,5 m2 are considered heating mats, covered by IEC 60335-2-81

appliance having an area exceeding 0.5 m2 on which the user's feet or body are placed in order to warm them.

In addition it was agreed to modify the Note in line 127 of the Scope as follows:

- heated mats and foot warmers with an area not exceeding 0,5 m 2 (IEC 60335-2-81);

11 IT05 185 5.3 te It is necessary to include a test requirement for the washable portable heating carpets, as it is in IEC 60335-2-81.

Addition:Washable portable heating carpets are laundered twice in accordance with the instructions before testing is started.

Accepted with the following wording:Washable portable heated carpets are laundered twice in accordance with the instructions before testing is started.

12 IT06 5.5 te See comment IT05. Addition:If the appliance is provided with a detachable cover the tests are carried out with or without this cover, whichever the most unfavourable.

Accepted with the following wording:If the portable heated carpet is provided with a detachable cover the tests are carried out with or without this cover, whichever the most unfavourable.





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13 IT07 199 6.1 te See comment IT05. Addition:Portable heating carpets shall be class II or III.

Accepted with the following wording: Portable heated carpets shall be class II or III.

14 IT08 202 6.2 te Portable heating carpets do not need IPX classification. They are indoor appliances like heating mats in IEC60335-2-81. The newly proposed modification of the 15.101 well covers the electric shock risks.

Modification:The IPX7 requirement for heating carpets should be deleted.

Accepted with the following wording to be added after line 202: This requirement does not apply to portable heated carpets.

15 IT09 209 7.1 te It is necessary to include a requirement for the washable portable heated carpets, as it is in IEC 60335-2-81.

Addition:Washable portable heating carpets shall be marked with symbol ISO 7000-3114 (2012-04) and with symbol ISO 7000-3124 (2012-04).


Portable heated carpets shall be marked with the substance of the following: Symbol ISO 7000-3114 (2012-04) and symbol ISO 7000-3124 (2012-04). In addition, portable heated carpets not intended to be washed shall be marked with the substance of the following: ISO 7000-3123 (2011-10).

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add in 7.6 the reference to the symbols (see e.g. 7.6 of 60335-2-17).

In addition, where portable heating carpet is mentioned throughout the document, it is to be changed to portable heated carpet.

16 IT10 209 7.1 te Some markings shall be added. Add the following marking:"Do not dry clean" and "Do not bleach"

See 15

17 IT11 230 7.12 te It is necessary to include a requirement for the portable heating carpets, as it is in IEC 60335-2-81.

Addition:Portable heating carpets should not be used if there are signs of danger.Portable heating carpets should not be used for warming animalsInstructions shall give details regarding laundering or cleaning.Instructions for portable heating carpets shall state that the appliance shall be repaired or replaced if the cover is worn. They shall explain how such wear can be observed.

Accepted.EG1 to arrange editorially to separate instruction information to be included from substance of the text.

18 CH02 247 7.12.1 ed Wrong punctuation. Replace the semicolon at the end of the sixth dashed item with a full stop.

Accepted

19 CH03 248 7.12.1 ed Wrong punctuation. For better clarity, add a colon at the end of the sentence.

Accepted

20 CH04 254, 259, 264

7.12.1 ed As exception, parts of text required by 7.12 to be provided in the instructions need not to be formatted in bold, even when being defined terms (in general, users of appliances do not have access to standards, hence they do not know the

Format “heating units” and “heating unit” in roman, not in bold.

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meaning of formatting of words). bold font.

However, in line 240, delete “the substance of”

21 CH05 266 7.12.1 ed Wrong punctuation. At the end of the eleventh dashed item, replace the semicolon with a full stop.

Accepted

22 CH06 286 7.101 ed Wrong punctuation. Insert a semicolon at the end of the third dashed item.

Accepted

23 IT12 296 10.1 te The Modification should address the heating units only.

Modification:The requirement also applies to the rated power input per meter length of heating elements of the heating units.

Accepted

24 CH07 360 11.8 ed Like in other Parts 2 improve clarity of headline by adding “limits” after “rise”.

ReplaceTemperature rise

withTemperature rise limits


25 CH08 360 11.8 NOTE of Table 101

ed Like in other Parts 2 improve clarity by adding “rise” after “temperature”.

Add “rise” after “temperature”. Accepted

26 IT13 360 11.8 Table 101 te For portable heating carpets is necessary to introduce a temperature limit for the Polyvinyl chloride insulation of the heating element as it is for the heated mats in IEC 60335-2-81.

Addition below the table:For portable heating carpets when polyvinyl chloride is used for insulating heating elements, the temperature rise of the insulation shall not exceed 80 K.

Accepted

27 IT14 376 13.2 te It is necessary to include a requirement for the portable heating carpets, as it is in IEC60335-2-81.

Addition:When testing the top surface of the portable heating carpets, the dimensions of the metal foil are 300 mm x 150 mm.

Not accepted

28 IT15 389 15.1 te It is necessary to add a new requirement for the portable heating carpets, as it is

Addition: Accepted with the following wording:





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in IEC 60335-2-17, in order to fully cover the risk of wetting such carpets by accident during usage.

15.101 The flexible part of the portable heating carpets is immersed for 1 h in water containing approximately 1 % NaCI at a temperature of 20 °C +/-5 °C after removing detachable parts. All of the flexible part is immersed except-appliance inlets;-the connections of the heating element or internal wiring to the appliance inlet. The appliance shall then withstand the electric strength test of 16.3 and inspection shall show that there is no trace of water on insulation that could result in a reduction of clearances or creepage distances below the values specified in Clause 29. The flexible part of washable appliances fitted with a non-detachable flexible cord is immersed again in the saline solution until it is saturated. It is then folded about its major axis and placed over a line located 2 m above the floor. The cord is freely suspended, any excess length being stretched out along the floor, and the flexible part allowed to drip-dry for 24 h.The switch or control unit shall then withstand the electric strength test of 16.3 and inspection shall show that there is no trace of water on insulation that could result in a reduction of clearances or creepage distances below the values specified in Clause

15.101 The flexible part of the portable heating carpet is immersed for 1 h in water containing approximately 1 % NaCI at a temperature of 20 °C +/-5 °C after removing detachable parts. All of the flexible part is immersed except-appliance inlets;-the connections of the heating element or internal wiring to the appliance inlet. The appliance shall then withstand the electric strength test of 16.3 and inspection shall show that there is no trace of water on insulation that could result in a reduction of clearances or creepage distances below the values specified in Clause 29.

In 15.1 after line 387 add the following :





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29. Portable heated carpets are also subjected to the test of 15.101.

29 IT16 391 16 te See comment IT15. Modification:This clause of Part 1 is applicable except as follows.16.1 Addition:The tests are not applicable to class III portable heating carpets.

16.2 Addition:The flexible part of portable heating carpets is tested with the voltage applied between live parts and an electrode immersed in the saline solutions.

16.3 Modification:The flexible part of portable heating carpets is tested with the voltage applied between live parts and an electrode immersed in the saline solutions. However, when the test is carried out on portable heating carpets without first carrying out the tests of Clause 15, the flexible part is covered with metal foil instead.Addition:After the test, the flexible part, of portable heating carpets is thoroughly rinsed in water and then allowed to dry for at least 24 h at a temperature between 20 °C and 40 °C. During the drying period, the appliance is stretched in an attempt to

Accepted





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regain the original dimensions.

30 IT17 539 19.101 te It is necessary to introduce the temperature limit for the insulation of the heating element as it is in part IEC 60335-2-81.

Addition:The temperature rise of the insulation of heating elements shall not exceed 145 K.

Accepted

31 DK03 577 19.103.3 ed The point (.) used after the abbreviation DC seem to be a typo

Delete the point (.) following DC in line 577

Accepted

32 DK04 658-659 21.105 te The conversion of note 1 to normative text, result in an unclear and vague specification that will likely prevent consistency in application: "For samples not having a circular cross-section, the form of the groove in the pulley is suitably modified"

What type of modification can be a suitable modification?

Modify the text to provide a clear specification of the modifications to be made in case of a non-circular cross-section

Agreed.

33 IT18 680 21 te It is necessary to introduce the ageing test for the insulation of the heating element as it is in part IEC 60335-2-81

Addition:After line 680, introduce the sub-clauses 21.106 and 21.107 by adopting the same text of respectively 21.102 and 21.103 of part IEC60335-2-81.

Accepted. EG1 to arrange editorially to consider the requirements are applicable to portable heated carpets.

34 IT19 763 24 te For portable heating carpets, it is necessary to allow the construction with the appliance inlet and the switches for flexible cords as it is in IEC 60335-2-81 and IEC 60335-2-17.

ComponentsThis clause of Part 1 is applicable except as follows:

Addition:24.1.5 all parts of IEC60320-1 are applicable except for those that make reference to the connectors in the standard sheets of IEC 60320-1

24.2 Modification:


Addition:24.1.5 For portable heated carpets, all parts of IEC 60320 are applicable except for those that make reference to the connectors in the standard sheets





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Portable heating carpets may be fitted with switches and controls in flexible cords

of IEC 60320-3.

24.2 Modification:Portable heated carpets may be fitted with switches and controls in flexible cords

35 IT20 786 25.14 te See comment IT19. Addition:For portable heating carpets, the test is applicable to appliances fitted with a non-detachable flexible cord.It also applies to switches and controls fitted in the flexible cord.

Not accepted. 25.14 is applicable for appliances with a supply cord, which by definition (3.2.3) is fixed to the appliance. The second paragraph is covered by 25.23 as these would be considered interconnecting cords.

36 IT21 802 29.3 te It is necessary to include a requirement for the portable heated carpets, as it is in IEC 60335-2-81 and in IEC 60335-2-17.

Modification:There are no dimensional requirements for the insulation of the flexible part of the heating unit and for the heating element of the portable heating carpets.

Accepted

37 IT22 817 30.2.3.2 te See comment IT23. Addition:The needle flame test is not carried out on textile materials.

Accepted

38 IT23 877 30.102 te In order to make the test more reproducible, it is advisable to replace this test with the ones recently re-edited by TC 61/MT 15 for the Amendment is relevant to the IEC 60335-2-81 and in IEC 60335-2-17 as in documents 61/6200/DC and 61/6214/DC.

Modification30.102 The insulation of heating elements and internal wiring within the flexible part shall be sufficiently resistant to abnormal heat and to fire.NOTE - This requirement also applies

Accepted in principle. To be aligned with 61/6214/DC and 61/6275/INF.Not accepted to keep the Note. It





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Type of comment


to the material used to insulate connections. Compliance is checked by the following test. A sample of the heating element or internal wiring at least 150 mm long is supported by a grid inclined at 45°. The grid is formed from parallel wires 0,6 mm in diameter, spaced 20 mm apart and it is large enough to fully support the sample. The sample is positioned perpendicular to the horizontal wires and centrally between the other wires. A second grid of similar dimensions is placed on top of the sample so that its horizontal wires are displaced by 10 mm from the horizontal wires of the first grid. The wires of both grids that are parallel to the sample are aligned with each other. The two grids are placed centrally within the laboratory fume-hood / chamber as specified in IEC60695-11-5 and are held in position so that there is no movement during the test. A needle flame, as specified in Fig. 2A of IEC 60695-11-5, is applied to the sample at a point mid-way between the wires, so that the tip of the flame is in contact with the surface of the sample and near its lower end. The flame is maintained until the test specimen ceases to burn. The test is repeated to three samples. In any of the test specimen, the length of the sample damaged by fire shall not exceed 65 mm, measured from the point where the flame is applied.

has been incorporated into the normative text.

DECISION: Proceed to FDIS for second edition


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45. IEC 60335-2-109: Particular requirements for UV radiation water treatment appliances 61/6216/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6278/INF TC 61 Secretariat, Maximum operation depth The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6278A/INF




(e.g. Table 1)

Type of comment



Noted

DECISION: Proceed to CDV for second edition and to be aligned with 60335-1 ED6. When preparing the CDV, for coherence with what was decided for 60335-2-55, add a comma in line 4 after “of 1 m”

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46. IEC 60335-2-113: Particular requirements for cosmetic and beauty care appliances incorporating lasers and intense light sources 61/6131/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6296/RVC AMD1Also taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/WG30)51, 61(2021WebSeries-I/CNNC)52The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6296A/RVC




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Type of comment


1 DE01 ge According to document 61/6183/RM – 70a decision, this document shall be adapted with IEC 60335-1 Ed.6. Please double confirm which version of part 1 shall this new amendment be read

This document is based on ed 5.2 of 60335-1 as it was started in 2018. It will be published as AMD 1 and the





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Type of comment


together with? ed. 5.2 or ed.6? alignment to 60335-1 ED6 will be done in the next maintenance cycle by 2024.

Also, EG1 to update reference of IEC 62471:2006 to IEC 62471:2008

2 FI01 ge Unfortunately, the Finnish NC is forced to vote against due to the following reason. Standard IEC 62471:2006 is incorrectly applied in the proposal. For example, RG classification does not apply for skin damage and furthermore the requirements for eye damage presented in the proposal refer only to continuous wave lamps.

Noted

3 NZ01 Title ed The decision at Bled Day 5 for NZ1 comment was “Accepted” The proposal was Delete “cosmetic and” from the title, Foreword and Scope

This has not been done in 61/6131/CDV for the title or scope

Delete “cosmetic and” from the title and Scope

Accepted Household and similar electrical appliances – Safety –Part 2-113: Particular requirements for cosmetic and beauty care appliancesincorporating lasers and intense light sources

4 DE02 3 ed The normative reference in the following Addition shall be dated: “Additional terms and definitions given in IEC 60825-1 and IEC 62471 are also applicable.”

Change “IEC 60825-1” to “IEC 60825-1:2014”Change “IEC 62471” to “IEC 62471:2006”

Accepted; see also 1.





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Type of comment


5 DE03 8 3.104 ed The current text is not clear what is modified with the original clause 3.103

Delete line 8, and change line 9 to the following:3.103 Replace the term and term definition by the following:

See 6

6 NL01 8-13 3.1033.104

ed In the proposal 3.104 is renumbered to 3.103. This means that now there are two clauses 3.103

Add before “3.104 Replace the term number and ….” the following:

3.103 Delete this term


7 DE04 14-15 3.108 ed In line 14, the term number 3.108 has been changed to 3.107, In line 15, term 3.108 shall be referred to the new term 3.107, consequently, the old term 3.109 shall be renumbered to 3.107.

Change “3.108 Delete this term and renumber term 3.109 to 3.108” to the following:

“3.107 Delete this term and renumber term 3.109 to 3.107.”


8 US01 14-15 3.105-3.109

ed Since 3.108 is being deleted, it should not be renumbered to 3.107.

Replace lines 14-15 as follows:

Renumber existing term numbers 3.105 to 3.107 to 3.104 to 3.106 respectively. 3.108 Delete this term and renumber term 3.109 to 3.107.

See 6 and 7

9 DE05 7.1 te The 3rd dashed item, symbol for class 1C laser product is not in line with IEC 60825-1 class 1 C laser product symbol. Symbol used in these 2 standards shall be aligned.

Replace “symbol ISO 7000-1329 (2004-01)” with “symbol ISO 7010-W004 (2011-05)” and explanation label bearing the words:LASER RADIATIONFOLLOW INSTRUCTIONSCLASS 1C LASER PRODUCT or the following figure:

Accepted





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Type of comment


Consequently, change also the graphic in clause 7.6

10 NL02 17 7.1 ed The change is related to the addition in part 2.

Modify as follows:

7.1 Addition:

Accepted


Modify as follows:

7.6 Addition:

Accepted

12 DE06 7.12 ed In the 4th paragraph, 2nd dashed item the “embedded laser” shall also be changed according to the change made in this standard proposal.

Replace “embedded laser” by “laser product”

Accepted


Modify as follows:

7.12 Addition:

Accepted


Modify as follows:

7.14 Addition:

Accepted


Modify as follows:

7.15 Addition:

Accepted

16 DK01 34-39 13.101 te The accepted comment from the Netherlands (NL02 in 61/5829A/INF) does not appear to have been implemented as agreed.

With reference to NL02 in 61/5829A/INF, replace the text of 13.101 with the agreed upon text.

Accepted from 61/5829A/INF

The leakage current for the applicator head intended to make contact with the human body shall also be measured under each of the





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Type of comment


following conditions in turn with each supply conductor interrupted one at a time, and shall not exceed 0,5 mA.

a) With the phase and neutral supply conductors transposed;

b) With each supply conductor interrupted one at a time;

c) With any supply earthing conductor open circuited at the mains plug.

17 DK02 36 13.101 te Aligned with previous comments, the DK NC does not agree with the increased limiting value for leakage current as no rationale has been provided.

Reduce the limit for leakage current to 0,25mA to correspond with the generic limit for cl. II constructions.

Not accepted; see 16

18 DE07 42-52 21.102 te The mechanical strength of the enclosure of a detachable power supply parts used in a flexible cord shall be as a general requirement included in part 1.

Make this proposal to part 1 of IEC 60335-1

Not accepted.It was considered specific to this Part 2.

19 DK03 42-52 21.102 te Aligned with previous DK comments we do not agreed with the presence of power supplies in flexible cords and therefor also not with the additional test for such.

Delete cl. 21.102 Not accepted

19a CN 47-49 21.102 te There is no time to apply the compression force of 1350 N.Green document 52

Add the time. Accepted with the following wording:After steady conditions are





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established, a compression force of 1 350 N is applied to the detachable power supply part enclosure. The compression force is applied for one minute using a flat surface 100 mm × 250 mm.

When discussing this proposal it was noted that the application time is missing in the similar requirement in 60335-2-115. MT 60335-2-115 will include this in the AMD 1 under preparation.

It was also agreed based on a comment from the CNNC during the meeting, to add a new 21.103 taken from 60335-2-115.In addition to align with 60335-2-115 at the end of line 43 as follows:21.102 The enclosure of a detachable power supply part used in a flexible cord shall





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Type of comment


have adequate mechanical strength against crushing.

20 DE08 50-52 21.102 te “The detachable power supply part shall not be damaged to such an extent that compliance with this standard is impaired. In particular, it shall not emit flames or molten material and the requirements of Clauses 8 and 29 shall be fulfilled.” can be misleading that the compliance with all clauses of this standard shall not be impaired.

Change this paragraph to the following:“The detachable power supply part shall not be damaged to such an extent that compliance with clauses 8 and 29 of this standard is impaired. In particular, it It shall not emit flames or molten material and the requirements shall be fulfilled.

Accepted

21 DE10 58 22.107 ed IE 60825-1 shall be dated. Change “IEC 60825-1” to “IEC 60825-1:2014”

Accepted

22 DE09 58-60 22.107 te According to the proposal, only appliances with Class 4 laser products need means for the assessment of pigmentation and to adjust output, but at least 3B laser products can damage skin as well and definitely need adjustment to skin type/pigmentation. For precautionary reasons 3R laser products should also be included.

A laser product that emits at AEL of a Class 3R laser product or higher…or exceeds the AEL of Class 3R as determinded…

Not Accepted3R lasers do not have a burning hazard based for the skin. The skin hazard starts with 3B.

23 FI02 58-60 22.107 te Note 2 to 3.101 states that wherever the text refers to “emission level not exceeding the AEL” or similar wording, it is implicit that the accessible emission is determined following the measurement criteria specified in Clause 5 of IEC 60825-1:2014.Determining accessible emission with a 3,5 mm diameter aperture placed at the closest point of human access is not in accordance with the measurement criteria in Clause 5 of IEC 60825-1:2014. Usage of AEL in this context is misleading.

Replace the list with:“– a laser product that emits above the AEL of a Class 3B laser product in IEC 60825-1:2014; or

– a laser product that exceeds the emission limits specified in Table 8 of IEC 60825-1:2014 when measured with a 3,5 mm diameter aperture

Accepted to replace the first dashed item with the following: – a laser product that emits above the AEL of a Class 3B laser product in IEC 60825-1:2014; or

Not acceptedProposal does not provide information or justification on the





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Type of comment


Furthermore, Risk Group classification in IEC 62471:2006 does not apply for skin damage. Instead, skin thermal exposure limit is given in Table 5.4.

placed at the closest point of human access; or

– an ILS exceeding the skin thermal exposure limit as presented in Table 5.4 of IEC 62471:2006”.

exposure time.

Not acceptedRisk Group 3 covers more than thermal hazards.

24 DE12 61-62 22.107 te For ILS, the measurement conditions in IEC 62471:2006 do not reflect the reality of application (direct skin contact). Depending on the measurement distance it is possible that ILS which can damage skin, are classified as exempt group. As long as the risk group classification for ILS is not based on realistic measurement conditions, all ILS shall have means to determine the degree of pigmentation of the skin and to adapt the output to the skin type.

ILS (continuous wave light source or pulsed light source) …

Not accepted 3.106 defines ILS which directs to 62471. In 62471, there is no indication that for exempt, Risk Group 1 and Risk Group 2 there is no skin damage.

25 DE11 68-69 22.107 te It is not clear why the study on human skin is only required for device without means to adjust the output. It shall be required in general.

Delete “For devices without means to adjust the output”.

Not accepted. 22.107 shall be considered in its entirety and unless it can be demonstrated that there is no damage to the bulk skin, the device is required to have means of adjustment.

26 FI03 78-80, 83-85, 88-90, 100-102, 106-108

22.108, 22.110, 32.101

ed Several requirements and references regarding stray optical radiation are given throughout Clause 22.108 and in Clause 22.110 although this should be covered by Clause 32.

Consider referring to Clause 32 (.101/.102) regarding the emission limits for stray optical radiation.

Not accepted.

27 FI04 93-94 22.109 te Table 6.1 of IEC 62471:2006 includes Consider referring to Clause 32 (.102) Accepted with the





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Type of comment


only the emission limits for risk groups of continuous wave lamps. Risk group determination for pulsed lamps is specified in Clause 6.2 of IEC 62471:2006 instead.Also, the requirements for stray optical radiation are already included in Clause 32.102.

for the stray optical radiation limits. Check the last comment of this sheet regarding Clause 32.102 as well.orReplace the sentence with:“The emission level shall not exceed the emission limits of the exempt group specified in Table 6.1 of IEC 62471:2006 for continuous wave lamps. For pulsed systems, the emission shall not exceed the emission limits of the exempt group when evaluated in accordance with Clause 6.2 of IEC 62471:2006.”

following wording:“The emission level shall not exceed the emission limits of the exempt group specified in Table 6.1 of IEC 62471:2008 for continuous wave lamps. For pulsed systems, the emission shall not exceed the emission limits of the exempt group when evaluated in accordance with Clause 6.2 of IEC 62471:2008.”

28 FI05 99-104 22.110 te What is the reasoning for relaxing the stray optical radiation limits only when excessive amount of skin preparation products is applied? If the relaxed limits are considered safe enough, should not the same limits apply to all stray optical radiation?

Reconsider if Clause 22.110 is necessary at all and whether the stray optical radiation limits could be covered by Clause 32.

Not acceptedThe requirements in 22.110 is for eye protection related to stray radiation.

29 FI06 103-104 22.110 te Risk Group 1 does not exist for pulsed ILS systems.

Replace the sentence with:“For ILS products, the stray optical radiation shall not exceed the emission limits for exempt group when tested in accordance with 32.102.”

Not acceptedThe remaining stray radiation is limited to Risk Group 1.

30 FI07 110-111 32.102 te The requirement is hard to understand. Table 6.1 of IEC 62471:2006 includes emission limits for risk groups of continuous wave lamps. Risk group determination for pulsed lamps is specified in Clause 6.2 of IEC 62471:2006 instead.

Replace the sentence with:“The stray optical radiation shall not exceed the emission limits of the exempt group specified in Table 6.1 of IEC 62471:2006 for continuous wave lamps. For pulsed systems, the stray optical radiation shall not exceed the

Accepted with the following wording: “The stray optical radiation shall not exceed the emission limits of the exempt group specified in





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Type of comment


Furthermore, the emission limits in Table 6.1 of IEC 62471:2006 are calculated for different exposure durations as specified in Clauses 6.1.1, 6.1.2 and 6.1.3. To obtain an EL for a 10 second exposure, the ELs in Table 6.1 need to be recalculated.

emission limits of the exempt group when evaluated in accordance with Clause 6.2 of IEC 62471:2006.”

Table 6.1 of IEC 62471:2008 for continuous wave lamps. For pulsed systems, the stray optical radiation shall not exceed the emission limits of the exempt group when evaluated in accordance with Clause 6.2 of IEC 62471:2008.”

DECISION: Proceed to FDIS for AMD 1. When discussing this proposal it was noted that the application time is missing in the similar requirement in 21.102 of IEC 60335-2-115. MT 60335-2-115 will include this in the AMD 1 under preparation.

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47. IEC 60335-2-119: Particular requirements for vacuum packaging machines 61/6176/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6295/RVC New Part 2

DECISION: This item will not be discussed. The CDV was approved with no negative votes (the negative vote of SA NC was evaluated and was confirmed to be purely editorial) and will proceed directly to publication considering the editorial comments received.

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48. IEC 60335 Parts 2 61/6233/INF Great Britain, Normative References in various Parts 2 with additional comments from TC61 officers


DECISION: As no comments were received or identified during the meeting, the approach noted by the TC 61 Officers in 61/6344/INF was confirmed as follows. For sake of clarity, the approach has been to have specific definitions related to specific functions or items covered by a specific Annex in the body of that specific Annex. It was considered that this way adds clarity in reading the standard and does not contradicts the Directives. In addition, when the 6th Edition of 60335-1 was finalized the following text was introduced, e.g. in Annex B: The clause numbers in this Annex refer to the clause numbers in the main part of this standard that are modified or not applicable. Clauses that are additional to the clauses in the main part of this standard are identified by adding the Annex letter with the numbering starting at 1. The intention is to follow this example in similar Annexes in the Parts 2. It is considered that this is a good practice that helps standards readers in better understanding the structure of the standard and there is no need to change the approach taken that proved to be suitable and did not create any problem in the application of the standard.

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49. Questions of Interpretation

49a Answers to questions from the CTL – [61(2021WebSeries-I/CTL Liaison person)02e v2, 61(2021WebSeries-I/CTL Liaison person)02eCC v2]

The report was noted. The proposals of the CTL for each inquiry was discussed and the position of TC 61 on each of them was given as follows:

Item Enquiry or report TC61 Comment1 Enquiry 2181 As covered under agenda item 5e on 31 May 2021, the Chair explained

that this item shall not be considered by TC 61 members as it falls under the responsibility of SC 61C.

2 a. DSH 2160 related question CTL is requested to ask TC 109 the following with regard to the second edition of 60664-1: What is the requirement when one of the values is less than x? Can one of the two be less than x provided the other one is at least x?

Concerning the application of the similar requirement according to the third edition of 60664-1, CTL is requested to ask TC 109 to clarify the meaning of the minimum creepage for the same situation, taking into account the note that was introduced after the FDIS and that seems to be under discussion in TC 109. Eventually, TC 109 should issue a corrigendum to clarify the meaning.

b. DSH 579 related question TC 61 confirms the CTL proposal that “water boiling” means that water


reaches 100 °C at 1 atmosphere.3 How to handle products energized by

USB port: Pending item awaiting the output from WG48/TC61

The question to be revisited when WG 48 provides its output.

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49b Decisions related to the AG28 report “Inquiries” – [61(2021WebSeries-I/AG28)02g v3, 61(2021WebSeries-I/AG28)02gCC v2]

The report was noted. The following inquiries were confirmed:

IEC 60335-1 IT 01: Q1: ConfirmedQ2: Confirmed. In addition, as far as the appliance being filled with water for the test in clause 25.15, the appliance shall be tested empty.

US 01: Confirmed. In addition, it was agreed that it may be possible to have for example the instructions for use separate from the instruction for safe installation, but the safety instructions relevant to use or installation, respectively, shall appear before any other instructions.

KR 02: The answer from AG28 is confirmed, clarifying that the reference to “room heater” shall be removed from the last sentence of the AG28 decision. It was noted that, as stated by the standard, infrared is not considered to be remote operation.

NL 02: Confirmed. It is not necessary to add reference to IEC 62314 in 24.1 of 60335-1.

CN 04: Q1: Opinion 2 is correct. All earthing terminals shall be secured against loosening, see 27.1 and 27.2.Q2: Confirmed

FR 02: Confirmed

CN 01: Confirmed

AR 01: Confirmed

CN 02: Confirmed

CN 03: Q1 to Q5: Confirmed


IEC 60335-2-8 NL 03: Confirmed.

IEC 60335-2-9 KR 01: Confirmed. According to clause 11.103 temperatures shall not be measured on surfaces within 25 mm of the hot functional surface.

IEC 60335-2-14 FR 01: Confirmed

IEC 60335-2-21 NO 01: Confirmed with the modification to item c to state that earthing terminals for supply cords are considered more reliable than earthing contacts for appliance inlets.

IEC 60335-2-29 KR 03: Referred to MT31 for further analysis based on the discussion during the meeting and the comments from DKNC. The enquiry will be discussed during the second web meeting series in 2021.

IEC 60335-2-65CH 01: Q1 to Q6: Confirmed

IEC 60335-2-80LK 01: Confirmed

IEC 60335-2-85NL 01: Confirmed

IEC 62115MT26 01: Confirmed

MT26 02: Confirmed

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50. Report of EG1 [61(2021WebSeries-I/EG1)04 v4]The EG1 convenor, Ms. Michelle Andersen provided the report. The report in 61(2021WebSeries-I/EG1)04 v4 was reviewed and approved, and EG1 was thanked for their activity which ensures the coordination and quality of the standards under TC 61.


Ms. Andersen explained the plan for a training session for EG1 members and for MTs, WGs, PTs Convenors or Secretaires, if interested, in particular considering the number of new members and it was confirmed at the meeting that EG1 will continue with its current practice of using an undated reference to Part 1 in the Part 2 standards and noting in the Foreword the Edition of Part 1 used when developing the Part 2.

Attention was drawn to the Guidance for Updating Part 2 Standards to Edition 6 Part 1 in Annex 1 to the EG1 report. The Guidance material will be used by EG1, will be circulated as an INF document and SCs will be requested to refer to the document.

In addition, regarding the Annex 2 to the EG1 report that provides a summary of the committees that identify the Basic and Group safety publications and horizontal standards, several updates where shared at the meeting and are reflected in v4 of the EG1 report that will be uploaded on Collaboration Tools and on UL’s 2021 Web Meeting Series I Tabled Documents webpage.

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51. Reports of TC 61 Maintenance Teams, Project Teams, Working Groups and Ad-hoc Groups

51a. Reports from TC 61 Maintenance Teams

MT4 – Temperature limits, resistance to heat and fire, use of test probes and presence of children [61(2021WebSeries-I/MT4)80]The convenor, Mr. David Brière provided the report from MT 4, specifically outlining the current and planned proposals from the MT now that a number of MT 4 proposals have progressed to the CDV stage. The report was noted, and the MT is thanked for their ongoing work.

MT15 - Electrically heated blankets and similar appliances [61(2021WebSeries-I/M15)77]Mr. Gargantini introduced the report from MT 15. In the report it was noted that the convenor Mr. Theo van Huet has resigned and proposed to disband the MT. It was agreed at the meeting to disband MT 15 due to the now consolidated development of the standards covered by the MT which have reached “maturity” and are fully updated to the state of art requirements. The MT is thanked for its work in fulfilling the scope of its assignment.

MT16 - Biological effects of optical radiation [61(2021WebSeries-I/MT16)35, 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT16)37]The convenor, Dr. Frank Richarz provided the report. Two retiring members were thanked for their contributions over many years, Dr. Sharon Miller and Dr. Frank de Gruijl.

Regarding the arranging of meetings and to ensure maximum availability of experts to participate in meetings, MTs/WGs/PTs/etc are to schedule meetings that accommodate virtual attendance even when physical meetings will be held and to arrange meeting times that vary in considering the locations of the various experts participating.


The MT was thanked for continuously reviewing the scientific progress in biological effects of optical radiation and reacting accordingly.

MT 23 - Functional safety related aspects of electronic circuits, remote control of household appliances and insulation co-ordination [61(2021WebSeries-I/MT23)24 vA]The convenor, Ms. Irma Rustemi provided the report from MT 23.

To clarify the obligation of Subcommittees to consult with the MT when developing new requirements that fall under the responsibility of the MT, it was agreed to update the scope of MT 23 as follows:

Maintain (in conjunction with the Secretary of TC 61) clauses 14, 19, 11 and 29 and consequential clauses and annexes in the IEC 60335 series of standards, including those under control of Subcommittees. SCs must consider the inclusion in their standards of the requirements developed by MT 23 If an SC is considering including requirements for these matters, and MT23 must be consulted for guidance.

Title & Task of MT4 and MT16 shall also be modified accordingly.

It was decided that an expert from MT 23 should participate in SEG 9 on smart home and smart buildings automation, monitor developments and make recommendations to TC 61, and Ms. Rustemi agreed to become a member of SEG 9. In addition, as there is an opportunity to enable coordination and cooperation between TC 61/MT 23, TC 72/WG 8, and TC 59 on the developments coming from SEG 9, a proposal will be presented in the MT 23 report during the second web meeting series in 2021 for the proposed method of operation for this coordination, e.g. an ad hoc group activity.

MT 25 – Electric drives for gates, doors, windows, shutters, awnings, blinds and similar equipment [61(2021WebSeries-I/MT25)19]MT 25 convenor Mr. Stéphane Bottollier provided the report from MT 25. The report was noted, and the MT is thanked for their ongoing work.

MT 26 – IEC 62115 [61(2021WebSeries-I/MT26)18] Mr. Gargantini presented the report for MT 26. The report was noted, and the MT is thanked for their ongoing work.

MT 31 - Maintenance of Annex B of 60335-1 and 60335-2-29 [61(2021WebSeries-I/MT31)17 The convenor, Mr. Dinand van Aalderen provided the report from MT 31. The report was noted, and the MT is thanked for their ongoing work.

MT32 – Electrical commercial catering equipment [61(2021WebSeries-I/MT32)38] The past convenor Fabio Gargantini provided the report. In response to 61/6236/AC Call for Nomination for Convenor of MT 32, Mr. Fabio Sinatra was nominated by the IT NC. During the meeting Mr. Sinatra was confirmed as the new convenor of MT 32. The MT is thanked for its ongoing work.


MT 46 – Kitchen machines [61(2021WebSeries-I/MT46)40]The convenor, Ms. Michelle Andersen provided the report from MT 46. The report was noted, and the MT is thanked for their ongoing work.

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51b. Reports of Project Teams

PT 60335-2-115 – Particular requirements for beauty care appliances [61(2021WebSeries-I/PT60335-2-115)22]The convenor, Ms. Wendy Huang provided the report from PT 2-115. It was proposed to disband PT 60335-2-115 now that the standard has been published and to transfer the activity to an MT for the ongoing need to maintain and amend the standard. It was agreed to convert the PT to an MT for this purpose.

The report was noted, and the PT is thanked for their ongoing work.

PT 60335-2-119 – Particular requirements for vacuum packaging machines No report was provided.

PT 60335-2-120 – Particular requirements for electric heaters for tobacco products (EHTP) and portable vaping devices [61(2021WebSeries-I/PT60335-2-120)32]Co-convenor Mr. Flore Chiang provided the report. Of significance, the PT has tentatively modified the title of the standard as follows: Particular requirements for the electrical safety of system appliances for the generation of inhalable aerosols, and the scope of PT will be modified by deleting the sentence “The new Part 2 standard will include a specific requirement that clear instructions shall be given on the packaging of the consumable to be used with the electric heater or the vaping device to warn the user on the potential health effects caused by nicotine.”

As the PT anticipates submitting a Committee Draft to TC 61 in December 2021 or January 2022 for discussion at the first meeting of TC 61 in 2022 and then a CDV is targeted for February 2023, it was agreed to update the project target dates accordingly.

The report was noted, and the PT is thanked for their ongoing work.

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51c. Report of Working Groups


WG30 – Cosmetic and beauty appliances incorporating lasers and intense light sources [61(2021WebSeries-I/WG30)20]The convenor, Ms. Pamela Gwynn provided the report from WG 30. As discussed at previous meetings, with the publication of AMD 1 for 60335-2-113 the WG is to be disbanded and the standard will be moved to fall under the scope of MT 16. Therefore, when AMD 1 is published, TC 61 will circulate an Administrative Circular to announce that WG 30 is disbanded and if NCs want to continue to follow the maintenance of 60335-2-113 they should nominate experts to participate on MT 16.

The report was noted, and the WG is thanked for their ongoing work.

WG39 – Exposure to light emitted by LEDs in appliances covered by IEC 60335-2-6 and IEC 60335-2-31 [61(2021WebSeries-I/WG39)XX]No report was submitted.

WG 40 - Fires on dishwashers and other wet household appliances [61(2021WebSeries-I/WG40)31]Mr. Randy Cooper provided the report from WG 40. In the report it was noted that the convenor Mr. Bruno Reiter has resigned. It was proposed to merge WG 40 with WG 47, Fires in tumble dryers, under the convenorship of Mr. Luca Cecchinato and to establish separate ad hoc working groups within the WG 47 to address requirements for dishwashers/washers and dryers. Under this proposal, WG 47 would be renamed as: Fires in “wet” household appliances covered by 60335-2-4, 60335-2-5, 60335-2-7 and 60335-2-11. It was decided at the meeting to accept this proposal. Therefore, an AC will be circulated to confirm that WG 40 is disbanded and the scope of WG 47 is modified accordingly. The AC will also request NCs to review the experts who were participating on WG 40 in order to nominate additional experts to WG 47 to cover dishwashers and other wet household appliances and, with respect to the current membership on WG 47, NCs will be asked to confirm whether experts shall continue to participate on WG 47, in particular based on the observation that some current members are not actively participating.

The report was noted, and Mr. Reiter was thanked for his role as convenor.

WG43 – IEC 60335-2-116 Particular requirements for furniture with electrically motorized parts [61(2021WebSeries-I/WG43)78]The convenor, Mr. Gert Bukkjaer provided the report. The WG is planning to proceed with expanding the scope of 60335-2-116 to extend to cover furniture with electrical parts but they are presently monitoring developments at the European level where further technical updates have been introduced that could be considered for the IEC standard.

The report was noted, and the WG is thanked for their ongoing work.

WG44 – Safety of robots for household and similar use [61(2021WebSeries-I/WG44)33]


Mr. Dejun Ma provided the report as convenor of WG 44. The report was noted, and the WG is thanked for their ongoing work.

WG 47 – Fires in tumble dryers [61(2021WebSeries-I/WG47)49]The convenor, Mr. Gianluca Cecchinato provided the report from WG 47. The report was noted, and the WG thanked for its ongoing work.

WG48 - Power sources and class III appliances No report was provided. However, it was discussed during the meeting that the convenor resigned and a call for nominations was circulated in 61/6238/AC. Mr. Alan Sellers was nominated by the GB NC at the time, and during the meeting Mr. Sellers was confirmed as the new convenor of WG 48. Mr. Sellers is invited to engage the WG as soon as possible to resume the outstanding activities of WG 48.

WG 49 – Circular economy and material efficiency [61(2021WebSeries-I/WG49)21 v2]Ms. Wendy Huang provided the report as convenor of WG 49. It was confirmed that it is not needed to modify the type testing in Part 1 or develop a definition for “new product”. According to the scope of WG 49, the WG is to address the concepts to be applied under the conditions of reuse, refurbish, etc for IEC 60335 products to ensure they meet the basic safety criteria. The convenor confirmed that the WG will provide a proposal to TC 61 during the first meeting of 2022.

The report was noted, and the WG thanked for its ongoing work.

WG 50 – Safety of appliances for household and similar use working under plateau conditions [61(2021WebSeries-I/WG50)34]The convenor, Mr. Dejun Ma provided the report. The research and study being performed by WG 50 is continuing. With regard to the effects of altitude on batteries, WG 50 is requested to share information in this area with MT 31 for consideration of the impact on the battery requirements in Part 1. It was noted that Mr. Nicholas Jones is a member of both WG 50 and MT 31 and is available to ensure coordination concerning the operation of batteries under plateau conditions with MT 31.

The report was noted, and the WG thanked for its ongoing work.

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52. Reports of TC 61 Subcommittees SC 61B – Safety of microwave appliances for household and commercial use No report was submitted.


SC61C – Safety of refrigeration appliances for household and commercial use [61(2021WebSeries-I/SC61C)23]Mr. Gargantini introduced the report. The report was noted and the secretary and chair of SC 61C thanked.

SC 61D – Appliances for air-conditioning for household and similar purposes No report was submitted.

SC 61H – Safety of electrically-operated farm appliances [61(2021WebSeries-I/SC61H)68]The SC Secretary Mr. Derek Johns presented the report. It was noted that a new chair will need to be appointed to replace the current chair, Mr. Adam Murdoch whose 9 year term of office will expire on 2022-02-27. TC 61 thanked Mr. Murdoch for his leadership as chair of SC 61H.

The report was noted and the secretary and chair of SC 61H thanked.

SC 61J – Electrical motor-operated cleaning appliances for commercial use [61(2021WebSeries-I/SC61J)46]Ms. Michelle Andersen provided the report. The report was noted and the secretary and chair of SC 61J thanked.

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53. Proposed agenda for the next meeting – [61(2021WebSeries-I/Secretariat)05] The draft agenda for the second series of web meetings for 2021 was noted.

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54. Update the TC 61 Program of Work as recorded by IEC Central Office The Program of Work was noted.

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55. Review of stability dates – [61(2021WebSeries-I/Secretariat)06, 61(2021WebSeries-I/TC69-ISO TC149-ISO TC22 Liaison)45]Earlier during the meeting it was agreed to postpone the stability date for 60335-2-75 to 2023.


It was agreed that the Stability Dates for 60335-2-32, 60335-2-84, 60335-2-96, 60335-2-105 and 60335-2-108 to be changed to 2024.

Regarding 60335-2-56, Particular requirements for projectors and similar appliances, as there has been no standards activity and the scope appears to cover equipment that is outdated and covered by other standards, such as IEC 62368, it was agreed during the meeting to withdraw the standard.

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56. Review of liaisons – [61(2021WebSeries-I /SC3C Liaison)39 v2, 61(2021WebSeries-I/TC69-ISO TC149-ISO TC22 Liaison)45, 61(2021WebSeries-I /TC89 Liaison)79]

1) A-Liaison: Consumers International (CI)Approved to continue.

2) Technical committee Liaisons:IEC SC 3C – Approved to continueIEC/SC 21A – Approved to continueIEC/TC 23 – Approved to continue IEC/TC 35 – Approved to continueIEC/TC 59 – Approved to continue IEC/TC 66 – Approved to continueIEC/TC 69 – Approved to continueIEC/TC 72 – Approved to continueIEC/TC 76 – Approved to continueIEC/SC 77A – Approved to continueIEC/TC 85 – Approved to continueIEC/TC 89 – Approved to continue IEC/TC 101 – Approved to continueIEC/TC 108 – Approved to continueIEC/TC 116 – Approved to continueIEC/TC 125 – Approved to continueISO/TC 22/SC38 – Type B liaison (Mode 4) Approved to continueISO/TC 115 – Approved to continueISO/TC 126 – Approved to continueISO/TC 136 – Approved to continue


ISO/TC149/SC1 – Type B liaison (Mode 4) Approved to continueISO/TC 291 as a liaison Type B liaison (Mode 1) Approved to continueISO/TC 299 – Approved to continueIEC/SyC AAL – Approved to continueIEC SyC LVDC – Approved to continue

Regarding the liaison with TC 23, TC 61 Officers will contact Mr. Seiffert to determine whether he is available to serve as the TC 61 liaison representative to TC 23. If not, it was noted during the meeting that there may be an expert from the USNC that would be available to serve as the liaison representative.

Report from SC3C Liaison [ 61(2021WebSeries-I /SC3C Liaison)39 v2 ] Mr. Derek Johns provided the liaison report. The liaison report was noted and Mr. Johns thanked for his role in liaising with SC 3C on behalf of TC 61.

Report from TC 69, TC149, ISO/TC22 Liaisons [ 61(2021WebSeries-I/TC69-TC149-ISOTC22 Liaison)45] The liaison report was presented by Mr. Yukiharu Hosoi, and was noted.

Report from TC 89 Liaison [ 61(2021WebSeries-I /TC89 Liaison)79] Mrs. Silvia Togni presented the report as the TC 89 Liaison. The TC 61 comments on 89/1528/CD were noted and Ms. Togni will share the compilation of comments with TC 61 once it is finalized with the observations of TC 89.

The remainder of the report was noted.

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57. Review of P-member participation Document 61/6280/INFThe participation of P members in 61/6280/INF was reviewed and noted. It was agreed no action is needed at this time.

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58. Review of the Strategic Business Plan 61/6217/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6279/INFThe results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6279A/INF





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Type of comment


1 ZA01 The South African National Committee votes in favour of the review of the SBP

Noted

2 GB01 SBP-F ge TC72 title is incorrect. Correct the TC72 title to “Automatic electrical controls.”

Accepted

3 GB02 SBP-F ge The entirety of SC77A should be referenced here, not only WG8. For example, IEC 61000-3-2, prepared by SC77A WG1, refers to requirements from TC61 standards (e.g. test conditions).

Replace SC77A/WG8 and title with:“SC 77A – EMC Low frequency phenomena”

Accepted

4 GB03 SBP-F ge Some CISPR/F standards refer to TC61 standards.

Add CISPR/F to the list:“CISPR/F: Interference relating to household appliances tools, lighting equipment and similar apparatus”

Accepted

5 AU01 I te We in principle agree with containment of fire in appliances to be specified in part two’s as additional requirements to out current clause 30 requirements, however we doubt that the solution is in 89/1528/CD.

Delete the following statement

“Develop and add repeatableand reproducible firecontainment requirements toaddress internal fire eventsof appliances of suchmagnitude that flames maypropagate from the applianceto the installation site. Thisactivity will mirror the activityperformed in the relevant IECtechnical committees.”

Accepted

6 JP01 I. 3-5 YEAR PROJECTED STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES,

Row 4, Page 6

In the item beginning with “Develop and add repeatable and reproducible fire..”

te With respect to 89/1528/CD for IEC TS 60695-2-21 (Fire hazard testing - Part 2-21: Fire containment test on finished units), if it is intended to be introduced to IEC 60335-1, we want to know about the following two points.

(1) We want to know the reason and problem examples that the existing fire tests (Glow wire tests, needle-flame test, etc.), are not enough to evaluate appliances.

See 5





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Type of comment


(2) The CD intends that enough power (max. 14 A) is supplied to the NiCr wire in order to ignite parts of connections. We want to know which TC61 intends,

- The test is also carried out in addition to the existing Glow-wire tests?

or,- The test is carried out alternatively (optionally) only when the appliance fails in the Glow-wire test?

DECISION: The SBP to be updated

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59. Any other business

59a. Update on request to IEC TC 64 on standard of the series IEC 60364 to be applied to whirlpool SPAs [61(2021WebSeries-I/Chair)02a v3]

In follow up to the initial discussion covered under agenda item 5a, Chair’s Report, the Chair obtained further updates from the officers of IEC TC 64 on the subject. As noted in 61(2021WebSeries-I/Chair)02a v3, based on the answer received from TC 64, the discussion of documents 61/5991/DC and its corresponding Compilation of Comments 61/6049/INF must be postponed to the TC61 web meeting series II in November 2021. Prior to then, TC 64/MT3 will discuss the subject on 17 September 2021 and TC 61 representatives are invited to participate in that meeting. During this meeting it was agreed that Mr. Thijs van Zanten, Mr. Adam Murdoch, and Mr. Derek Johns will attend the TC 64/MT3 meeting representing TC 61. Mr. Gargantini will request that the topic be discussed at the start of the TC 64/MT3 meeting on 17 September.

59b. Information from the NZNC on the use of halogen free cords in cord sets complying with IEC 60799 [61(2021WebSeries-I/NZNC)73 v2]

Mr. Derek Johns noted that TC 61 is identified as a committee of interest for 23G/466/CD, and after reviewing the document Mr. Johns proposed that TC 61 should provide a comment on 23G/466/CD for AMD 1 to IEC 60799 to request that SC 23G use halogen free cord types in Table 1 to AMD1 to IEC 60799. It was agreed that TC 61 should provide such comments; therefore, Mr. Johns will submit a draft comment to the TC 61 Secretary so it can be submitted to SC 23G.


In addition, Mr. Johns proposed that 25.7 of 60335-1, first paragraph, should be updated to add “for appliances having a mass not exceeding 3 kg;” at the end of the first bullet item in the last dashed item. It was agreed that there should be a weight limit also on light duty halogen free cords and this change will be made in the next Amendment.

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60. Date and place of next meeting [61(2021WebSeries-I/Secretariat)13 v2]

According to the referenced tabled document, the next meeting of TC 61 will be via Zoom and scheduled as outlined below. In addition, the due date for meeting documents will be as covered in the second table below. Note, additional details regarding the meetings in 2022 is also provided.

TC 61 2021 WEB SERIES-II ZOOM MEETING SCHEDULE

Meeting Time Zone

Date in meeting time zone Central European Time (CET)

China Standard Time (CST)

Pacific Standard Time (PST)

New Zealand Daylight Time

(NZDT)Monday 8 November 08:00 – 12:00

Tuesday 9 November 08:00 – 12:00

Wednesday 10 November 08:00 – 12:00

Thursday 11 November 08:00 – 12:00

Friday 12 November 08:00 – 12:00

Monday 15 November 08:00 – 12:00


Wednesday 17 November 08:00 – 12:00

Thursday 18 November 08:00 – 12:00

Friday 19 November 08:00 – 12:00

Monday 22 November 08:00 – 12:00


*If additional meeting dates are needed, they will be added beginning 29 November 2021.


2021 Second meeting: Zoom meeting series to begin in 8 to 23 November 2021 Meeting document Deadline Cut-off date for receipt of DCs for discussion in November to December 2021

2021-06-25 Release date for DCs and preliminary draft agenda 2021-07-09 Comment close date on DCs (8 weeks) 2021-09-03 Issue date for INFs/CCs and revised agenda 2021-09-17

2022 First meeting: 2022 June – Republic of Korea (KR) (Dates to be confirmed) Tentatively 13 to 17 June 20222022 Second meeting: 2022-10-31 to 2022-11-04 – San Francisco (US) Officially invited as of 11 June 2021

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61. Close of meeting The Chair thanked the delegates for their flexibility and participation in a successful web meeting series. He added that with a compressed meeting schedule this time around, while this format greatly impacted everyone’s schedules, it seems we found that it was quite effective in managing the continuity of topics and discussions. The Chair thanked the secretary, Ms. Randi Myers and assistant secretary, Ms. Grace Roh for their support prior to, during and after the meeting in preparing the meeting arrangements and completing the various documents, and he thanked the Vice Chair Mr. Ma for his continued support in his role. Mr. Derek Johns expressed appreciation for the Chair’s successful operation in chairing the web meeting series and to the other TC officers for the roles.

Mr. Gargantini closed the meeting at 12:09 Pacific Daylight time.

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END OF DISCUSSION FOR WEBMEETINGS FROM 31 MAY to 04 JUNE 2021