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Webinar: GCSE 9-1 Sharing IdeasThursday 22nd June 2017

Recording: http://lancelot.adobeconnect.com/pbigw26o4ig4/

ContentsAgenda!............................................................................................................................................2Unedited transcripts.........................................................................................................................2

Question 7 What criteria do you use for assessing on-going language work in class for the four skills?...........................................................................................................................................2Question 8 How does your school determine a target GCSE grade at the start of the course?...3Question 9 How do you judge whether a pupil is working satisfactorily towards a target?.......5Question 10: What do your pupils do for the summative 'internal' exams (e.g. end of year 10) for the four skills?........................................................................................................................7General Chat..............................................................................................................................10Ideas for future webinars...........................................................................................................14Twitter handles..........................................................................................................................16

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Agenda!Part One dealt with questions 1-6.This webinar covered 7-10

1. How are you preparing pupils for the picture task?2. How are you preparing pupils for the role-play task?3. How are you preparing pupils for the general conversation?4. How are you preparing pupils for the unprepared writing tasks?5. How are you preparing pupils for the translation?6. Which resources do you find the most helpful for the new GCSE specification?7. What criteria do you use for assessing on-going language work in class for the four

skills?8. How does your school determine a target GCSE grade at the start of the course?9. How do you judge whether a pupil is working satisfactorily towards a target?10. What do your pupils do for the summative 'internal' exams (e.g. end of year 10) for the

four skills?

Unedited transcriptsNB Helen Myers' writing is usually summarising Jennie King's input.

Question 7 What criteria do you use for assessing on-going language work in class for the four skills? Helen McCrory:yes Elodie Jugue (Derby):guestimation to be honest ;/ Helen Myers:Jennie: Poeple ar eusing mark schemes in the specs - adapted to create a markscheme Elaine Bocking:criteria from the spec is the only way we can mark and assess Cendrina:AQA Markschemes from the specs. Mélanie Redrup:going with specs Helen Myers:Lots of assessment for learningn Danielle:We use the markschemes for writing and speaking in the specification, listening and reading we use a guestimate! Helen McCrory:AQA Specification for writing and speaking Laura Lopez-Bonilla:same Helen Myers:writing own r and l - creating percentage marks Pam Stallard:Using the mark schemes from the Spec, and moderating in department Laura Lopez-Bonilla:Jennie, very faint sound Elaine Bocking:I have created assessments for the year 10 from exam specs in 90s and have then done a mark scheme Helen Myers:consensus that there is danger in doiong this Nicky Phillips:MArk scheme or ACtive Learn and then We fill out the results and then sort according to total and then give grades proportinonally. Active Learn gives grades according to the steps - seems to work? Helen McCrory:assessment for learning and moderation with rest of department Juliet:we use the mark schemes for speaking and writing and percentages formulas into a spreadshe - a best guess. And a very high percentage set for grade 9s Helen Myers:Complimentary about mark schemes Louise Brown:AQA Spec Marking criteria - used in class and in the end of Year 10 exams. Results given as %.

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Vicky Prior:Same as most, using specification mark schemes, but trying to steer clear of using grades/percentages at all Elaine Bocking:celebrate marks not grades Laura Lopez-Bonilla:YEs, I use percentages based on the specs Mélanie Redrup:we are using 95% for grade 9 as supposed to be A** Elaine Bocking:one way is for several schools to do the same exam and then put all the marks into a database and then to put grade boundaries in Vicky Prior:We have to do it for 'exams' but in class we're not discussing them Pam Stallard:I find we are avoiding the grade 9 entirely at the moment Mélanie Redrup:Yes but we are given targets that students need to achieve Vicky Prior:We've had a great focus on rewarding their efforts as well, which has actually made us more focussed on the good Nicky Phillips:But what do parents and students want to know? Charlotte Garratt:if 95% is grade 9 do you just go down in 10% increments Melanie Redrup for each level? thanks Elaine Bocking:we have mark celebration assemblies and then show how they have gone up in each mark Richard S:but then we get a % and instantly, kids ask what's the predicted grade... for y9 and y10, I've been asked to enter a predicted GCSE grade... Vicky Prior:Much more liberating than controlled assessment when they got a "grade" by the first on in year 10 and already felt they were on a course for failure Francis:We have to use the 1-9 grades as directed by our management Helen Myers:Jennie: excitement about using AfL Helen Myers:get them to redraft Mélanie Redrup:yes Charlotte 8 90%, 7 80% etc Charlotte Garratt:what is purple box / yellow box marking Jennie? sorry if daft q Isabelle Rodriguez:part of the markscheme with relevant task done Charlotte Garratt:thanks so much :) Helen Myers:Jennei will visit school sto sdhare .. Elaine Bocking:it is like purple pen marking all bubble and box marking Isabelle Rodriguez:then marks (/10/16 etc) used Helen Myers:highlight mistakes ... but not telling them what they are Elaine Bocking:come and visit my academies in Knottingley to see what we are doing clara ampah-korsah:I've used the Pearson criteria and go4schools markbook Helen McCrory:We have marked translation in class and on exams like we used to do at A Level. Louise Brown:I did that as feedback after the Summer exams in May- I highlighted errors and pupils had task to correct their work as a follow up task in lesson. Isabelle Rodriguez:yes, just snapshot of markscheme then marks out of 10 16 etc students have liked having the markscheme above their work Mélanie Redrup:yes but we have nothing to go by at the moment Nicky Phillips:We fill out the results and then sort according to total and then give grades proportinonally. Active Learn gives grades according to the steps - seems to work? clara ampah-korsah:yes we use activelearn Nicky Phillips:SO what is the discussion about? Just decide not to give grades?

Question 8 How does your school determine a target GCSE grade at the start of the course?

Helen Myers:Jennie: target grades - feeling that they were unfair Elodie Jugue (Derby):should it be a number 8 window HElen?

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Helen Myers:set by SLT rather than on prior attainment Helen Myers:people being expected to reach high grades Francis:Based on FFT scores which I don't agree with Vicky Prior:Same as always for us, based on KS2 through some form of FFT Elodie Jugue (Derby):they use the KS2 data Mélanie Redrup:usign ALPS Louise Brown:Yellis data clara ampah-korsah:ours is set by yellis and the school adds a grade on top of that Elodie Jugue (Derby):attainment 8 and divide across subject Nicky Phillips:What KS2 data? Charlotte Garratt:use ks2 CAT tests Danielle:SLT set these as the quivalent of 4 levels of progress, transfered into a number Richard S:we use KS2 data as well... a few pupils have a target of 9, and just got barely 60% in y10 mocks Isabelle Rodriguez:No idea how it ws done. SLT member did it for us Nicky Phillips:Isn't it obsolete? Vicky Prior:Although SLT struggling to base anything on the new KS2 scores now they're not numerical Helen McCrory:very high aspirational targets set by ALG based on KS2 Isabelle Rodriguez:KS2 data I believe Cendrina:FFTs as a starting point Louise Brown:we are then allowed to amend the Yellis data if we judge that it is not realistic etc Elodie Jugue (Derby):ours are rounded up too Helen Myers:realistic, challenging, aspirational ...... Isabelle Rodriguez:we are allowed to up a target but not lower it! Clara Dolan:Set by KS2 and English/Maths ?! Unfair but that's the way it is. Nicky Phillips:Well they put them up if the students are meeting their target grades but don't lower them if the opposite is true??? Isabelle Rodriguez:HPA students might have really high targets but not necessarily gifted in ML Francis:We are measured on these targets with the differential worked out when the results come out. We then have to justify the differential. Isabelle Rodriguez:again EAL students have low targets Isabelle Rodriguez:when EAL students might me ble to achieve higher grades in ML Isabelle Rodriguez:yes, that's right Nicky Phillips:My main conceern isn't the targets but the impact of all these issues on Language uptake and schools decisions to reduce the number of students taking GCSE for obvious financial and practica reasons?? Pam Stallard:Niky, uptake is a conern here too Elodie Jugue (Derby):here too Elodie Jugue (Derby):a webinar for ideas?? Elaine Bocking:it is an issue all over for another time Richard S 2:GCSE target grades put people off, if they can get a higher grade in other subjects Elodie Jugue (Derby):a general thing but worse with challenge of new one Nicky Phillips:I don't agree if students aren't meeting target gardes because it's so challenging weaker students aren't entered Nicky Phillips:Languages for all? Pam Stallard:So much talk of 'new GCSE' does put students off because it's an unknown quantity Elaine Bocking:pupils are not entered if they are not going to pass Nicky Phillips:No the GCSE doesn't offer foundation level quetsions? Nicky Phillips:Staffing? Can you appoint easily?

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clara ampah-korsah:ours is a normal comp and we have changed and all students are taking a language Nicky Phillips:We had two applicants for HoD Vicky Prior:I think recruitment is an issue independent of the GCSE Nicky Phillips:I have 9X2 and they really can't cope with the expectations Richard S 2:expectations = mock GCSE exams that may replicate 2018 summer exams Richard S 2:and then they get grades below targets Kim Griffiths:our targets are stipulated and pupils are aware of this, we give expected grades too which at the present stage fall short of the target grade. some find this disheartening from the onset Charlotte Garratt:Did you want separate dialogue boxes for each question Helen? Vicky Prior:We're trying to put effot above "attainment" Elodie Jugue (Derby):are you not doing different windows for each point?

Question 9 How do you judge whether a pupil is working satisfactorily towards a target?

Helen Myers:Jennie: people have been using sams Helen Myers:teachit Helen Myers:exampro Richard S 2:exampro question bank = expensive Helen Myers:crerating assessmrnt material that has been thought out Richard S 2:edexcel exam wizard = free Helen Myers:takes time Isabelle Rodriguez:exam pro £80 per lang per year Elodie Jugue (Derby):is there a lot of material on exam pro? Richard S 2:my HoD loved the examwizard y9 exams I created, for reading and listening Elaine Bocking:Exampro online assessment is difficult to access even when paid Helen Myers:Who uses the sams as they stand? Helen McCrory:use of exampro, creating our own writing exam and speaking exam Laura Lopez-Bonilla:I tailored Louise Brown:We tailored to solely access the chapters that we had covered. Vicky Prior:This links slightly to point 1, but we've actually used past papers of the old spec for listening and reading because we can compare current year 10 with previous cohorts from our school Elodie Jugue (Derby):I am keeping the SAMS for yr11 Juliet:we use a mix of Exam pro previous materials and create some of our own Richard S 2:I wrote my own writing and translating and speaking Gunda Walendy:We tailored Vicky Prior:*point 10, sorry, not 1 Elodie Jugue (Derby):and used Kerboodle for yr10 Julia Morris:we kept listening and reading and changed the other two sills Mélanie Redrup:I took specimen material from Edexcel but we do AQA and only selected content we had covered Richard S 2:and used some speaking cards on TES Elaine Bocking:2010 Spec A Charlotte Garratt:My colleagues used exemplars as is without amends (I havent taught the spec yet hence some of my questions :)) Francis:Tailored writing and speaking specimen exams used Listening and Reading Specimen exams as they were Laura Lopez-Bonilla:Yes, old papers adding translation and some literaty texts

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Julia Morris:just use speaking cards that we have covered Danielle:We have used a mixture of Activelearn assessment pack, the edexcel published translation booklet and old old spec papers Helen McCrory:we added time limits for each question for foundation and higher writing for yr10 exams Charlotte Garratt:They felt it was more representative of the real thing Vicky Prior:We know the future paper will be harder/slightly differently formatted but also want to make them feel good, and save SAMS for future possibly Elodie Jugue (Derby):yes Vicky! We have done the same Nicky Phillips:Combination of SAMS and Active learn EOY exams and modular assesmsnets which indicate grades. Claire Yates:did foundation spec reading and listening and tailored the writing. However, reading and listening too hard - specimen material AQA. Did exams in April which I think is too early. Elodie Jugue (Derby):we have mocks in Nov and March of their yr11 so we decided yr10 should be security Louise Brown:We also used the assessment materials from the GCSE course book (Stimmt for German etc) Julia Morris:would be interesting to hear how many chapters/topics people have covered so far? Clara Dolan:We used the specimen exams but tailored the speaking. Everyone did foundation and I then offered my Set 1 the higher writing as a way to check who could now reach a 6. Vicky Prior:We're a huge girls comp with a fully compulsory GCSE MFL for the whole range, and self esteem is a huge thing in our school, so trying to keep that up was a priority Claire Yates:We have no sets so tiered entry will be a challenge Mélanie Redrup:speaking was a mix of assessment from Studio, rest was drawn form other boards Elaine Bocking:if you were around in the early 90s there is alot of assessment material from these years Isabelle Rodriguez:PPE twice a year in Yr 11 Helen McCrory:we are giving set 1 higher writing and set 2 + 3 foundation writing. We need to cover as much content. We are going to do a mock speaking in november, and mock listening and reading in December Elodie Jugue (Derby):oh yes I forgot to say speaking they are doing in 2 weeks and I want another one to do in Feb (that will be jsut speaking) Clara Dolan:We did the same, Jennie!! Juliet:we are conducting our second full scale mock in a few weeks - highly recommended as it was a learning curve for us as well as the students Isabelle Rodriguez:worried about speaking Elaine Bocking:If you need it I have it Pam Stallard:Worried about ensuring time is given for speaking so interested to see HOW people are encouraigng SLT to make sure this happens Vicky Prior:Yes to mocks, training for staff as much as students Elodie Jugue (Derby):I have scanned some old role plays! Elaine Bocking:I have stuff scanned in all done Pam Stallard:Thank you! Claire Yates:Not given time for speaking test. I have the old cards too! Mélanie Redrup:we hae just done our mock year 10 speakings over a week Vicky Prior:We were lucky to get full days covered for controlled assessment even, so just 'told' them we were doing the same for speaking Danielle:We have insisted on speaking exam mocks prior to the mock week twice in year 11 and then we have timetabled in a speaking exam for all year groups once a year. Pam Stallard:Could scans of cards be shared? Save people doing the same?

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Nicky Phillips:I love the fact we have lost the re-sit mentality Richard S 2:Pam, TES has some great speaking cards Vicky Prior:Absolutely Jennie, same here, and yes, Nicky too Louise Brown:I felt the same Jennie Mélanie Redrup:same all students turned up and were quite positive and saw it as a positive trial experience Elodie Jugue (Derby):yes! Vicky Prior:"Can I just do it tomorrow Miss, I haven't leart 'it'" Pam Stallard:Nicky, same here. There's no 'next time' thought any more Nicky Phillips:Edexcel suggested using the other language SAMS for ideas/resources? Vicky Prior:Yes Mélanie Clara Dolan:Can I just ask, does anyone use pre-prepared booklets? Whereby pupils learn the oral answers? Louise Brown:I am doing a mini speaking (all 3 parts) after each chapter Clara Dolan:We are debating it in school?

Question 10: What do your pupils do for the summative 'internal' exams (e.g. end of year 10) for the four skills?Elaine Bocking:2010 L and R and then SPec 1 speaking and our own writing Helen Myers:Either using sams or following units taught Helen Myers:Tryiong to do all 4 skills Richard S 2:ah, Nicky - that's a good idea.... use sample material from the other exam boards or languages and translate them, in order to have a range of materials Helen Myers:Pupils not too nervous about it Isabelle Rodriguez:we did listening reading and writing in the hall - adapted sample paper 1 and Studio/Viva and practice books (CGP/Collins) Helen Myers:In writign pupils were allowed to write and redraft Mélanie Redrup:we examined in all 4 skills with shorter versions of exams for Listening and Reading Elodie Jugue (Derby):do you mean they have anough time to redraft? Richard S 2:when I did a writing exam, my classes all shouted "where are my 30 words" list? clara ampah-korsah:We are testing all 4 skills on mod 6 Isabelle Rodriguez:only on topics studied Louise Brown:We created our own reading/writing paper (with 4 reading questions, translation, 90 word task) assessed on the chapters that we have covered, a listening paper (5 questions) and a speaking exam (all 3 parts). It worked really well in all 3 languages for us. Isabelle Rodriguez:2 tiers - it was a lot of work! Elodie Jugue (Derby):we are doing all 4 skills from unit 1 to 5 that we have covered Helen Myers:note thaT WORD LIMITS MEAN THAT PUPILS HAVE THE CHANCE TO TDO A ROUGH COPY THEN DRAFT AND REDRAFT Mélanie Redrup:only on content covered so far Helen McCrory:We looked at specimen writing papers for French and put it into Spanish and vice versa, full past paper, in test conditions Danielle:Speaking and writing we are testing on the topics we've covered, the listening and reading we're doing a mixture Helen McCrory:we tested on modules we had done so far Nicky Phillips:Full SAMS form Eduqas for year 10 and then full edexcel for year 11 in Dec 2017. Studnets actually appreciated knowing what it's liek - they need a "dress rehearsl" never mind the grade indication. Mélanie Redrup:a mix of tasks, one paper for all using a range of Foundation and Higher tasks Elodie Jugue (Derby):and for the confidence approach

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Isabelle Rodriguez:haven't done a speaking exam/run-through yet Isabelle Rodriguez:I have a Spanish ab initio! Isabelle Rodriguez:they have not done Spanish before Elodie Jugue (Derby):our speaking will be a phot, a role play and only one conversation though Helen McCrory:we did a speaking last November - photo card and conversation Pam Stallard:I was just thinking that they have 'done' most things before, as the topics and skills get started in 7-9 and added to in 10-11 Vicky Prior:Our old spec papers matched mainly the topics they've done, they did include something they hadn't "done" as a topic, but we gave a small amount of extra vocabulary to deal with that and did things they COULD do if they used the skills we've done a lot of work on Mélanie Redrup:same 3 tasks but only testing 1 conversation topic Helen Myers:DIFFERENT APPROACH TO SPEAKING .. Francis:Agree with you Helen. they have covered a lot of the basic langauge sinse Yr 7. However a lot of language in AQA specimen was very complex Helen Myers:SOME ONLY THE CHOSEN THEME Danielle:We felt they needed examples of translation/ literary text questions from the sample papers as these will be on broader topics that just the ones we've covered. Helen Myers:others only a photo Isabelle Rodriguez:Next year, I have some flexibility in t/t so have t/ted 2 teachers for Year 11 at least once a fortnight to do speaking practice Mélanie Redrup:made 4 different cards using a range of material to avoid everybody doing the same thing Elaine Bocking:is it not in the guidance Nicky Phillips:Edexcel - colour photo cards - Edexcel has a scheme for deciding the second conversation topic based on the theme chosen by the candidate Nicky Phillips:Everything is guided by the choice of conversation topic Elaine Smith:We are doing regular speaking tests. All elements with year 10 but only Photocard and Conversation with year 9 Elaine Bocking:it is Elodie Jugue (Derby):ng GCSE in ? Nicky Phillips:Same as old NEAB Elodie Jugue (Derby):sorry Elaine Bocking:we had the chief examiner who clearly went through this with us Elodie Jugue (Derby):* are many of you starting GCSE in yr9? clara ampah-korsah:We are Elaine Bocking:yes we do three years AQA but really start in year 7 Nicky Phillips:We started in year 9 - worked well - slowly but surely Lynne:Can I just clarify again AQA are black and white photo cards ? Elodie Jugue (Derby):is it best? Elodie Jugue (Derby):I want to push it nbut not too sure how to argue it Danielle:From September, we will start with year 9, as we are struggling to get through everything in 2 years Vicky Prior:2 year KS4, but rewriting a lot of KS3 to start to fit in with it Nicky Phillips:We start in year 7 - drip feeding Richard S 2:we started with the AQA GCSE textbook in y9... current y9 and current y10 have done the same topics in the textbook during this academic year Carol Hughes:Certainly worth teachers attending speaking training events. Edexcel ones are usually online after school Isabelle Rodriguez:We start in Yr 10 but changing SOWs at KS3 to support GCSE changes Isabelle Rodriguez:but still trying to keep them engaged Elodie Jugue (Derby):ok thanks that is useful! re-writing KS3 schemes at the moment so will def factor in

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Pam Stallard:Isabelle - what kind of changes? I've been looking into the same Clara Dolan:We are doing the same, Isabelle. Isabelle Rodriguez:Gramma focus Nicky Phillips:Skills based not topic Mélanie Redrup:Same here Jennie, even Year 7 getting a taste of it Elaine Bocking:also doing year 7 exam with a role play and year 8 do a photocard Isabelle Rodriguez:and all assessment are similar to new GCSE but no answers in French only (apart from Writing and Speaking of course) Nicky Phillips:AgainPearson offers lots of support for building up knowledge in the four skills and grammar/translation Isabelle Rodriguez:I have all my assessments on google drive Helen Myers:get used to the criteria Isabelle Rodriguez:I shared the link on Twitter Isabelle Rodriguez:but need to update out end of year exams on g drive Nicky Phillips:It's very clear cut - FW - qu 1 opinion and description, QU 2 - future and present, Qu 3 - all three tenses Claire Yates:Grammar plus doing conversation pages, group talk, photo card and role play from Y7. KS3 assessments - translation and a blog with bullet points inTL. Reading assessments from activeteach Vicky Prior:I think Edexcel are Helen Elaine Bocking:yes they are Nicky Phillips:Edexcel recorded their webinar last Thursday Louise Brown:KS3 changes - focus on translation skills, more spontaneous writing in KS3 summer exam relying on the verb banks etc that we discussed on Sunday - we find it's going well and our Year 7,8,9 are writing in more detail now with a range of tenses. Elaine Bocking:AQA all recorded Lynne:Yes that would be a good idea Charlotte Garratt:How often are you doing interim graded pieces of work (e.g. homeworks / in class activities) to give pupils feel for progress? e.g. weekly / half-termly / end of unit? Isabelle Rodriguez:homework at KS3 is 1 week vocab and 1 week translation or writing Elodie Jugue (Derby):how do you do your speaking then? Isabelle Rodriguez:same applies at KS4 Elaine Bocking:but what are you doing with the data Elodie Jugue (Derby):do you book time off with that frequency? Nicky Phillips:Two extended writing tasks per term and same with speaking. Martine Pillette suggests spekaing assessment should be lesson based form Year 7 - I have devised a quick chel=cklist for spekaingassessment using criteria to match Louise Brown:From September we are going to do basic Photocards for KS3 too to get them used to this task - we have referenced these in our SoW. Charlotte Garratt:We do similar at KS3, a halftermly assessment but for GCSE how often are people generally giving a grade / feedback to pupils? weekly/monthly etc? thanks Isabelle Rodriguez:however for KS4 I'm tempted to change to writing in class Vicky Prior:I think someone made that point in London too, Jennie, writing needs our support Isabelle Rodriguez:as they struggled in mock Helen Myers:Idea - do more listenign and rterading tasks at home Elaine Bocking:we start with open book assessments Vicky Prior:and also avoids google translate Richard S 2:and don't mention google translate Nicky Phillips:I never set writing homework - they just use google and language they're not familiar with. Focus on what language they KNOW Helen McCrory:we do an extended piece of writing every fortnight, we do writing in class, it avoids temptation of google translate Helen Myers:More open book tests ...

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Elaine Bocking:we do this with all years Elodie Jugue (Derby):what is the benefit of open book test sorry? Richard S 2:I gave my class 5 minutes with their exercise books at the start of writing exam, when they'd seen the questions Mélanie Redrup:Only do oopen book tests with lower ability Carol Hughes:Edexcel has exam wizard which is really usefuly for finding additionla listening and reading tasks by task type or topic. Worth investigating if you do Edexcel. Mélanie Redrup:Active Learn has a lot of tasks the students can access from home or in computer rooms Elodie Jugue (Derby):computer room, what do you record on? Nicky Phillips:Also Carol the Active learn has loaads of resources - all help give an idea of performance! Richard S 2:for listening, I've uploaded a few listening files to google classroom, then kids can do it themselves - or in a cover lesson Elaine Bocking:open book tests build confidence Elaine Bocking:memrise is great Helen McCrory:How do you test speaking at KS3 to make it manageable for teachers? Helen McCrory:kahoot, quizlet live Mélanie Redrup:Elodie we use Sanako where you can pair people up, record etc Louise Brown:My pupils love quizlet live! Nicky Phillips:Helen - Martine Pillette suggests spekaing assessment should be lesson based form Year 7 - I have devised a quick chel=cklist for spekaingassessment using criteria to match Charlotte Garratt:I have started to set up Memrise lists for German spec under cgarratt userid - Nicky Phillips:Trying to work out how to share Helen Myers:[email protected] Nicky Phillips:k Helen McCrory:we have done speaking tests in pairs but it takes 2 lessons Elodie Jugue (Derby):easymic are good if you have a bit of money Helen Myers:http://www.all-london.org.uk/site/index.php/webinar-gcse-9-1-sharing-good-practice/ Elodie Jugue (Derby):but takes a long time to mark if you have to liosten to all Helen Myers:That's where I'll put things

General Chat

Helen Myers:Hi Stephanie! Helen Myers:HI Danielle! Danielle:Hello! Stephanie:Hi :) Helen Myers:Starting at 7.30 - just settuing up .. Helen Myers:can I check with you that my audio and video works? Stephanie:Sure Danielle:Hello I can see and hear you perfectly! Stephanie:I can see and hear you! Richard S:Good evening all Elaine Bocking:hi I cannot see or hear Elaine Bocking:Can everyone else hear and see? Gunda Walendy:Good evening Sophie G:Good evening! Danielle:Not at the moment, Helen had the video on before but she said she was going to get ready and then would put it back on. Elaine Bocking:okay thanks Danielle

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Mélanie Redrup:Bonsoir à tous! Elodie Jugue (Derby):Hello Elaine Bocking:Hello Helen McCrory:Hi Kim Griffiths:Good evening , thankyou for hosting this session Helen Louise Brown:Hi everyone Isabelle Rodriguez:Hi everyone! Paula Patterson:Hi, Thank you for hosting Helen. Just realised my work laptop has no sound but one of my colleagues should be joining us! Elodie Jugue (Derby):I can't hear you anymore either Richard S:sound is working fine for me Gunda Walendy:yes please Sophie Ginolin:I don't have any sound at the moment either Richard S:I'd love to hear that part because I didn't attend the session on Saturday and it would be very useful Elodie Jugue (Derby):I have closed and logged back on and it works now Mélanie Redrup:Same would be very usefuk, thanks Helen! Danielle:I would also appreciate that part, thank you! Mélanie Redrup:useful Pam Stallard:All working fine here Luisa Blake:yes Mélanie Redrup:yes Danielle:yes Elodie Jugue (Derby):yes all good now Francis:yes Louise Brown:Y Stephanie:yes D Piper:yes, loud and clear Charlotte Garratt:Bonsoir :) Pam Stallard:Is the information from Sunday's chat available online? I wasn't able to attend Mélanie Redrup:yes it is, look at the web address on the left! Pam Stallard:Got it, thank you! Mélanie Redrup:Hi am Head of Frenh at Rickmansworth School Juliet:Hi Helen, hope you're well. Vicky Prior:Vicky, Head of French in London Laura Lopez-Bonilla:Head of Department at The Malling School Pam Stallard:Pam, stepping up from MFL teaher to head of MFL at Longhill School in Brighton Sophie G:Hi, I'm an NQT in MFL starting at Westfield Academy, Herts, in September Louise Brown:Hi everyone I am Head of German (and also French teacher) at Gateways School, Leeds Danielle:Hello, Danielle, Head of Languages at Wolverley CE Secondary School, Kidderminster Charlotte Garratt:French and German NQT (for about 3 more weeks :) Chester Helen McCrory:Hi, I'm Head of MFL at West Lakes Academy in Cumbria Elodie Jugue (Derby):Head of Faculty for MFL in Derbyshire, hello :) Clara Dolan:Hi, I am Clara, French and German teacher close to Wigan. D Piper:Hi, I'm Head of German in Derby clara ampah-korsah:hI I'm Clara Head of MFL at Westfield Academy Luisa Blake:Trainee teacher (Spanish and French) starting in September at Sawston Village College in Cambridge :) Francis:French teacher from Berkshire Vali Atkinson:Hi all, I am French teacher in Dorset, Dorchester

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Carol Hughes:Hi I am Carol Hughes. I used to teach in Southend. I am currently working as an exam board trainer whilst enjoying retirement. Nicky Phillips:So what is there for the lower level - how do we avoid an elite language learning system???? The GCSE starts in at a highe rlevel than many students can cope with. Nicky Phillips:Schools are going to withdraw students from language learning: Nicky Phillips:a. to save money Nicky Phillips:b. to increase results Richard S:at my school, we've had the reverse... high ability pupils have been predicted 7/8/9 in many subjects, but are dropping MFL because we're being realistic and predicting a 6 because it's that much harder to get a good grade now Eva Lamb:Hi all - sorry I am late! Richard S:we've also got those with a prediction of 8 or 9 but just got a 6 in y10 mocks Eva Lamb:I teach in Sheffield. Hi Carol! Nicky Phillips:Yes so massage the figures and then start the grade boundaries game again Richard S:schools appear reluctant to change the KS4 target grades for pupils Nicky Phillips:Well they put them up if the students are meeting their target grades but don't lower them if the opposite is true??? Richard S:exactly, Nicky Nicky Phillips:NOt sure how the ENglis/maths comparison helps with languages?? Elodie Jugue (Derby):does it mean we are forgetting UMS marks? Richard S:I recall someone previously saying that UMS now no longer exists Pam Stallard:The setting of targets has been computerised as with former grading despite the changes which we might find causes artifically high target grades Richard S:UMS was only required when modules were sat across exam sessions, but now it's all end of course, UMS isn't required any longer (pls correct if I'm wrong) Elodie Jugue (Derby):thanks Richard Nicky Phillips:UMS always used to average out the raw scores. Nicky Phillips:UMS will still be required but not particularly relevant? Charlotte Garratt:Sorry the slide moved too quickly, what is highest grade achievable under foundation? thanks Nicky Phillips:5 Charlotte Garratt:thanks Elodie Jugue (Derby):5 / old B Richard S:Nicky, not really... UMS numbers changed a raw score into a standard score out of 100/150/200.... now, the raw score is maintained, and retained... and they'll be used to divide the levels for where the boundaries are, not where the UMS numbers are Nicky Phillips:BUt Helen surely it's all about the motivation?? Number of students entered - the whole Languages for all philosphy?? Nicky Phillips:NOt about the proportion?? If the number of students entered lowers? Nicky Phillips:Raw score was alwyas the deciding factor? Richard S:UMS was the actual score that pupils cared about Richard S:raw scores were converted into UMS Richard S:now it's raw scores that will be key and retained, and there's no need for UMS Lynne:Is a 5 a top end C or a low b Nicky Phillips:I don't agree as raw scores changed year on according to grade boundaries? WHereas UMS stayed the same Vicky Prior:low B Lynne Richard S:I'd love to get helen's feedback now Lynne:Thanks Richard S:but we'll have to get this feedback this evening before the end of this webinar Nicky Phillips:Richard where are you from? What's your school? Richard S:I'm in NW London Charlotte Garratt:Struggling to hear Jennie :/

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Nicky Phillips:Helen - have you attended a GCSE board moderation? The exemplars caused much controversy amongst MFL teachers -we moderated them and really didn't agree with the Edexcel exemplar results!! Nicky Phillips:PS according to the Edexcel Webinar last Thursday Elaine Bocking:yes set by our MAT Elaine Bocking:We use FFT Aspire which is very good Elaine Smith:Elaine Smith French teacher in Ipswich clara ampah-korsah:Isabelle what is your twitter so we can look at the link please? Isabelle Rodriguez:@MsIRod Isabelle Rodriguez:I can try to find it now if you'd like clara ampah-korsah:merci :) Isabelle Rodriguez:https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BziZrS5pwzQ3QlNzMHdFb0pHcmM Isabelle Rodriguez:This is the link for my KS3 French assessments Pam Stallard:`That's amazing @Isabelle thank you for sharing Isabelle Rodriguez:I do need to update it! Term 4 and EOT not there yet Isabelle Rodriguez:but already done :) Isabelle Rodriguez:We use Doddle for KS3 Elodie Jugue (Derby):thank you Helen Elaine Bocking:thank you Elodie Jugue (Derby):so informative again! Pam Stallard:Brilliant session thank you so muh Elaine Smith:Thank you clara ampah-korsah:Thank you so much very reassuring Charlotte Garratt:LOVE Doddle Elaine Bocking:More than happy to lead Helen have done loads of these Louise Brown:Great session again, thank you so much Helen and Jennie Nicky Phillips:Bye Miss Myers - Coirin Duff, Nicky Beech Class of 1984 :-) Isabelle Rodriguez:@Charlotte - do you? I'm struggling with it! Kim Griffiths:Thankyou for this evening , much appreciated Charlotte Garratt:Thank you every one Juliet:Thanks Helen. Sophie G:Thank you so much! Laura Lopez-Bonilla:Thanks Helen and Jennie Elodie Jugue (Derby):webinar on how to raise uptakes at GCSE Helen? Irene:Thank you, I arrived late, but it was very helpful Danielle:Thank you! It was very helpful! Pam Stallard:^^^ raising uptake would be excellent Helen McCrory: Thanks very much, this was really helpful Elodie Jugue (Derby):Any idea for the next one HElen? Clara Dolan:Thank you both fr hosting, and thank you to everyone else for all of your fab ideas!! Very helpful! x Clara Dolan:*for Elodie Jugue (Derby):uptakes :) please Mélanie Redrup:thanks, reassuring we are all doing the same sort of things Elodie Jugue (Derby):a monthly one would be great Richard S 2:Helen - is UMS being dropped? Francis:Many Thanks . Another great webinar Charlotte Garratt:I think half-termly is more achievable Elaine Bocking:what about some moderation on the screen Vali Atkinson:Many thanks, looking forward to join you soon again.:-) Louise Brown:What about looking at each skill in turn - one session a month?? Lynne:Differentiation ideas for a monlthly one ? Juliet:half termly would be good. like the idea of moderation task

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Kim Griffiths:i like of the moderation one Elaine Elodie Jugue (Derby):ideas for next webinars: uptakes / resources / example of SoW / differentiation / moderation Nicky Phillips:Yes ideas for practising NOT testing each skill Charlotte:Thanks Helen and Jennie! Looking forward to reading your notes Helen as I had to have a fight with my computer! Meeting once a month sounds "fantastique"! Elodie Jugue (Derby):yes games to encourage a particular skill? Charlotte Garratt:Louise Brown: What about looking at each skill in turn - one session a month?? AGREE WITH LOUISE Pam Stallard:Even if we met monthly with a topi and just discussed, played games, shared resoures. Could do 5 minutes per person or something like that and each person present a resource? alia:Thank you Helen for the great webinar. Charlotte:Spontaneity spontaneity spontaneity Pam Stallard:^^^ Louise Brown:Some sites you might like to try (from TeachMeet): Plickers, lyricstraining, neuneinhalb news videos for German A-Level is excellent, textingstory, autodraw, mentimeter, apple clips Charlotte Garratt:auf Wiedersehen Elodie Jugue (Derby):bye Helan and thank you Cendrina:Many thanks Helen. A lot of great tips and information.

Ideas for future webinars

Elaine Bocking:each skill in turn or moderation Richard S 2:weekly / fortnightly webinars, not necessarily recorded... anyone wanting to discuss / moderate / test something... Lynne:differentiation for mixed ability groups Richard S 2:as a kind of "drop in" clinic Kim Griffiths:building confidence and attainment for low ability students Pam Stallard:Sharing resources in a constructive way, like a big department meeting Helen McCrory:moderation Elodie Jugue (Derby):raising the numbers of GCSE strudents and A level students please Charlotte Garratt:grammar teaching ideas Charlotte:Spontaneity in speaking mostly Elaine Bocking:yes but marks Lynne:vocab collecting ideas Danielle:Speaking in the classroom ideas Helen McCrory:strategies to motivate learners Charlotte Garratt:Use of online tools and apps Elaine Bocking:memory techniques Richard S 2:based on the gcse new spec marking scheme, we can see what each text would get Kim Griffiths:transferability of grammar structures - pupils understanding / perception Charlotte:Is there a miracle strategy to "engrave" grammar rules? Charlotte Garratt:And make it memorable/engaging Charlotte Louise Brown:A way of sharing ideas, new websites, APPs that we have come across - (I went to a TeachMeet MFL in York 2 weeks ago and knowing where to post them so everyone can use them) Pam Stallard:based on earlier discussion, changes to KS3 Vali Atkinson:Which strategies work best in all four skills consolidation? Helen McCrory:raising numbers for A Level Richard S 2:that was also something I didn't want to suggest.... or know if I should....

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Elaine Bocking:we have done this for 20 schools and then moderated Isabelle Rodriguez:Took forever to do 2 papers for each language so happy to share what I have! Charlotte:Of course Charlotte :) Richard S 2:what if we all agree and create some actual exam material Elodie Jugue (Derby):yes please raising numbers A level and GCSE Laura Lopez-Bonilla:How to adapt to KS3 Charlotte Garratt:apps I think Louise means :) Richard S 2:then we can create assessment across many schools, and create some kind of standardization Louise Brown:sorry - i just meant Apps (e.g. on IPADs) Elaine Bocking:what about ALL having an area Charlotte Garratt:Joe Dale has great ideas, could we persuade him to do a session for us ? Louise Brown:We didn't come up with a place to post them - I've jotted them down in my notebook but don't know where to share them. Elodie Jugue (Derby):oh yes Joe Dale :) Louise Brown:Charlotte Garratt - Joe Dale was there at the TeachMeet so I've already got some of his ideas to share out Lynne:the new A level content - I find Eduqas slightly unclear Elodie Jugue (Derby):oh that is a bvrilliant idea Richard! Elaine Bocking:we have done this for 20 schools and it works Edexcel have done this for 10000 kids in Maths Pam Stallard:Richard that's inspired Charlotte:Sounds Great Richard! Nicky Phillips:We do it per year group as an indicator Elodie Jugue (Derby):I don;t mind sharing it just as an extra paper though Cendrina:Strategies for lower ability students taking the new GCSE Elaine Bocking:Edexcel have done this for Maths Pam Stallard:Even if it didn't give us a legitimate representation, it would still be really useful to look at the numbers and say 'this is where you stand in the scale we have got' Charlotte Garratt:With changes to TES it'd be great if there were a way of sharing resources in a different way, I'm sure we're all repeating efforts left, right and centre Nicky Phillips:But we don't have anything to go by - surely somethign is better than nothing? Louise Brown:That would be really good Richard - I only have 8 pupils in Y10 German mixed ability so it would be great as a general indicator of how they are doing. Nicky Phillips:It's not unknown if exam boards are saying thea 97% will have 8/9 = then 97% of our year gourp would be grade 9/8?? Nicky Phillips:Regardless of what mark they got - if it was a "difficult " paper? Laura Lopez-Bonilla:Can we create a link where we can upload exams we have created based on new specs? I have a couple I have done for y10 Speaking and Writing Elodie Jugue (Derby):yes LAura taht would be brilliant Laura Lopez-Bonilla:I have Spanish only for noew Laura Lopez-Bonilla:Edexcel Elodie Jugue (Derby):French AQA :) it was a good shot Laura :) Pam Stallard:Laura that would be brilliant Charlotte Garratt:It was the same with 'estimated' CA grades, very risky giving grades, most of my estimates came in a whole grade lower for writing last year :( Nicky Phillips:Indicates the grade you might get?? same as old exam past papers - I agree with richard the same happened last year?? Terrible results in GCSE Edexcel listening exam based excactly on this Isabelle Rodriguez:I have AQA FRench and Spanish - F and H - to share :) Richard S 2:any mock is always a rough guess... I think most pupils know that it's an indication but that performance on the day is the only thing that actually counts

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Elodie Jugue (Derby):I have a greta project that I do for yr7 that I have pinched from other colleagues but whole school events Elodie Jugue (Derby):would be great to think about ideas?? Laura Lopez-Bonilla:Yes, let´s do that. Helen?! Can I email you? Elodie Jugue (Derby):European Day of LAnguages? Nicky Phillips:How did we predict last year's ? Nicky Phillips:Bye Miss Myers - Coirin Duff, Nicky Beech Class of 1984 :-) Madame Flaubert Helen Myers:Wow!!!!! Bye!!!!! Helen Myers:What a class!!!!!!! Helen Myers:Now I know who you are on Twitter!

Twitter handles (from part 1 and 2) barbara:Barbara Cheded @stuzzicadenti12 Sylvie Bartlett-Rawlings:@SylvieBRawlings Laura:@lauraannesimons Helen Simpson:HelenCSimpson@WEDGEastKent Helen Simpson:@WEDGEastKent Helen Myers:HelenMyers Jennie King:@nhsglanguages Jennie King:@jennieking69 Rebecca Wylie:@reebekwylie Josh S:@renmus32 Sylvie B-R:@SylvieBRawlings Rosemary Hicks:Rosemary Hicks @hicksie58 Isabelle Rodriguez:@MsIRod Elaine Bocking:@ElaineGelder Emilie B:@MLMilpin clara ampah-korsah:campahkorsah D Piper:@fraupiper Pam Stallard:@stallardlonghill Julia Morris:@JuschMo Jennie King: I like the idea of online moderation

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