God’s Church and Our Church

• “The wealthiest Institution in the Country”

• “The lost millions”• “It will always be

here”

• Is the Church a long way away from the ideals of John and Jesus?

The Church of England

Where the money comes from £900 million

21%

7%

22%16%

18%

6%6% 3% 1%

£200m Gift Aid£ 60m Tax reclaimed£200m Cash donations£140m Fund Raising£160m Church Commissioners£50m Parish investments£50m Diocesan investments£30m Fees£10m Other

The Church of England:Where the Money Goes

£900 million

11%

80%

£9.3 m Training clergy

£9.9m National Services

£1.4m Grants

£0.7m Mission Agencies

£18.5m Bishops pay and workingcosts£16.1m Direct Cathedral support

£8m Support of central church

£3.1m Retired Clergy Housing

£100m pre 1998 clergy pensions

£1.5m Help with new pensions

£18.3m Help to poor dioceses

£4.6m Direct clergy pay

£4.2m Direct parish support

£714m Parishes & Dioceses

The Diocese of Liverpool

Income

66%

5%6%

5% 1%

17%

£5.1m Parishes£1.3m National Church£0.4m Earned income£0.5m Investments£0.4m Donations etc.£0.1m Other

The Diocese of Liverpool

Expenditure£8.6m

3%

63%

21%2%

11%

£0.2m Grants

£4.4m Clergy payments

£1m Clergy housing

£1.8m Support costs

£0.1m Management & Admin

So where is the wealth?

• National Picture– 2/3 income comes from current members– 4/5 expenditure is in parishes & dioceses

• Diocese (Liverpool)– 2/3 income comes from parishes– 3/4 expenditure pays for the clergy

• Clergy– Archbishop of Canterbury is paid less than a

secondary school head teacher– Bishop of Liverpool receives less than a

primary school deputy head

Parish Clergy

• Current stipend is £18k / year• All parish clergy are paid roughly the same• But we have to pay

– Most office equipment, furniture, heating, lighting, cleaning, insurance

– Robes– Entertainment– Upkeep of the church’s house & garden

• Typical income counted for tax £11k• Where to live when retired?

The church’s wealth

• So where is it?– Central coffers?– Church House in Liverpool?– Bishops & Archbishops?– Clergy?

• Whoever owns our church?

Our Budget

• Income– £ ? Sunday Giving– £ ? Other giving– £ ? Fees– £ ? Fundraising etc.– £?

• Expenditure– £ ?

Clergy expenses + housing

– £ ? Church Utilities– £ ? Maintenance etc.– £ ? Sunday Services– £? Admin Costs– £? Diocese Share– £?

God’s Church and Our Church

• How can we live the Gospel?