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    Plssnck 1= Nkacrbnke Tchn`y Flsnek= Nksnejts arcb tjl P`nlk`l ca Pgalty gkf Tuohn` @cksuhtgtnck

    Anklolre= Ul grl vlry prnvnhlelf tcfgy tc jgvl gkctjlr cppcrtuknty tc wcri tceltjlr tc rgnsl nflgs, tcrgnsl sueelstncks. N wgkt tc rlbnkf lvlryckl, nk ycur `cbblkts gkf nflgs, tc try tc ol gs spl`nan` gs pcssnohl. Vjl bcrl spl`nan` wl `gk ol nk rlalrlk`l tc tjl KPGOO frgat, tjl bcrl uslauh nt ns hnilhy tc ol

    tc tjl pchn`ybgilrs uhtnbgtlhy. Furnke tjl `cursl ca tjns fgy cur gnb ns tc fne fllplr nktc tjl ily nssulstjgt wlrl flvlhcplf nk g prlhnbnkgry wgy ylstlrfgy. Gkf wl'rl vlry prnvnhlelf tc olenk wntj g ercup wjcwnhh rlvlgh scbl ca tjl nksnejts tjgt tjly jgvl ehlgblf arcb tjl s`nlk`l ca sgalty gkf tjl s`nlk`l ca puohn` `cbbukn`gtnck, twc grlgs tjgt gout fnrl`thy ck tjl `cksnflrgtnck ca egnk ca auk`tnck rlslgr`j ca`ck`lrk. Untjcut gky aurtjlr gfc, hlt bl turk tjl prcergb cvlr tc cur bcflrgtcr, Fr. Ogru`j Ans`jjcaa.

    Ans`jjcaa= Vjgki ycu, Jgrvly. Vjgki ycu ghh acr olnke jlrl. Ckl ca tjl tjnkes tjgt wgs `hlgr gs wlcregknzlf tjlsl wcrisjcps wgs tjgt tjl jubgk lhlblkt ns `lktrgh tc tjns prc`lss. Vjlrl grl nkfnvnfughswjc bgnktgnk cr vnchgtl sgalty. Vjlrl grl cregknzgtncks tjgt rlwgrf cr fns`curgel sgalty. Vjlrl grlnkstntutncks tjgt fc cr fc kct tgil auhh gfvgktgel ca tjl tl`jkchcey. Vjlrl grl nkfustrnls tjgt fc cr fc kcthlgrk arcb tjlnr lxplrnlk`l gkf cregknzl tjl wgy tjlrl grl ecvlrkblkt -- tjlrl grl rleuhgtcry gkf ctjlrbl`jgknsbs tjgt lk`curgel plcphl tc wcri ck tjl tl`jkchcey, cr bgil -- cr `rlgtl ourflks tjgt bgil nt

    fnaan`uht tc pursul `grllrs nk rlslgr`j nk tjns grlg, gkf plrjgps frnvl tjl rlslgr`j tc phg`ls tjgt grl hlsssgal. Gkf tjlrl grl gfvlrsgrnls wjc bgy wgkt tc tgil gfvgktgel ca tjl nkvlktncks jlrl, tjl nkacrbgtnckrnsi, gs fls`rnolf.

    Pc, gt cur anrst wcrisjcp, wl jgf twc ca tjl prlslkt splgilrs, Bckn`g P`jc`j-Ppgkg, tc tghi gocut tjl`cbbukn`gtncks, tjl twc-wgy `cbbukn`gtncks tjgt grl kllflf wntj tjl puohn` nk crflr tc nkacrb tjlnkfustry gocut tjl `ckstrgnkts ukflr wjn`j nt jgs g hn`lksl tc cplrgtl gkf tc illp tjl puohn` gpprgnslf cawjgt tjl nkfustry ns fcnke, gkf Egvnk Jukthly-Alkklr, wjc spcil gocut jubgk ag`tcr s`nlk`l tjgtukflrhnls lkenkllrnke acr sgalty. Nk achhcwnke tjl flhnolrgtncks snk`l tjlk, gkf pgrtn`uhgrhy tjl KPGOOblltnkes wjlrl tjlrl wgs g erlgt flgh ca gttlktnck tc tjl nssul ca sgalty `uhturl, wl rlghnzlf tjgt tjlrl wgsgkctjlr lhlblkt ca s`nlk`l wjn`j wl kllflf, wjn`j ns tjl s`nlk`l ca cregknzgtnckgh oljgvncr tjgtfltlrbnkls wjltjlr cr kct cregknzgtncks auk`tnck nk g sgal wgy.

    Pc g `jghhlkel acr tjcsl ca us nk tjl sc`ngh, oljgvncrgh, gkf fl`nsnck s`nlk`ls ns tjgt lg`j ca us ns g sc`ngh, oljgvncr, gkf fl`nsnck s`nlktnst. Nk crflr tc elt tjrcuej hnal, wl ghh jgvl nktuntncks gocut jcw tc elt ghckewntj ctjlr plcphl gkf jcw tc bgil fl`nsncks gkf, gs g rlsuht, nt's catlk tlbptnke tc hlt cur nktuntncks eunflus wjlk tjl tnbl `cbls tc fl`nfl jcw tc nkstru`t plcphl cr jcw tc hlgrk arcb lxplrnlk`l. Gkf, gs grlsuht, wl tjcuejt nt wgs nbpcrtgkt tc prcvnfl g``lss tc tjns `cbbuknty nk wjn`j tjl sc`ngh, oljgvncr, gkffl`nsnck s`nlk`ls jgvl typn`ghhy kct phgylf g `lktrgh rchl, tc prcvnfl g``lss tc tjgt s`nlk`l sc tjgt tjlwcri `gk ol fckl nk g wgy tjgt bnknbnzls tjl rnsis gkf rlghnzls tjl pctlktngh ca tjl tl`jkchcey. Pc lg`jca cur splgilrs wnhh splgi acr gocut 7< bnkutls gkf tjlk wl'hh jgvl cplk fns`ussnck. Pc, Bckn`g -- cj,_utjgkkl ns anrst. Gkf ycu jgvl tjl oncergpjnls nk tjl bgtlrngh.

    _utjgkkl Junsnke, B`Enhh \knvlrsnty= Vjgki ycu. Pc, tcfgy, N'b ecnke tc subbgrnzl g alw ca tjl wgys nk

    wjn`j cregknzgtnckgh gkf `uhturgh ag`tcrs nkahulk`l jcw rlslgr`jlrs nktlrprlt gkf rlspckf tc nssuls casgalty gkf sl`urnty nk tjlnr hgocrgtcrnls. N'b g sc`nchcenst gkf N stufy rleuhgtnck nk s`nlktnan` hgocrgtcrnls. Nwgs pgrt ca g rlslgr`j tlgb hlf oy Pusgk Pnholy gt BNV nk wjn`j wl splkt cvlr tlk ylgrs stufynke tjlnbphlblktgtnck ca gk lkvnrckblkt, jlghtj, gkf sgalty bgkgelblkt systlb gt g bgmcr rlslgr`j uknvlrsntynk tjl Kcrtjlgstlrk \kntlf Ptgtls. Pc wl jgvl fltgnhlf hckentufnkgh coslrvgtncks ca hgocrgtcry prg`tn`ls nk`jlbnstry, onchcey, gkf lkenkllrnke hgos, gkf tjnkinke gocut jcw rlslgr`jlrs ukflrstgkf gkf nktlrprltgkf nktlrg`t wntj tjl hgw gkf wntj rlqunrlblkts rlhgtlf tc sgalty.

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    Pc, must tc bgil tjns g hntthl bcrl `ck`rltl, wjlk N wghi nktc g hgo cr wjlk N stufy hgocrgtcrnls, N hcci acrnkfn`gtncks ca tjl sgalty `uhturl. Ghh hgos, ghh uknvlrsntnls ghrlgfy jgvl g sgalty `uhturl. Vrynke tc gufnt crukflrstgkf wjgt tjgt `uhturl ns nbpcrtgkt gs wlhh gs trynke tc `jgkel nt. Gkf sc wjlk N ec nktc hgos, N `gkcoslrvl vlry qun`ihy grl rlslgr`jlrs wlgrnke `cgts, grl tjly wlgrnke ehgssls3 Ujlk ycu tghi tc ergfugtlstuflkts tc ukflrstgkf wjy tjly fck't, wjgt grl tjlnr rgtnckghls acr kct wlgrnke hgocrgtcry `cgts3 Fc TNsg`tughhy pgrtn`npgtl nk nkspl`tncks3 Ujgt fcls nt blgk tc ergfugtl stuflkts, tc gfbnknstrgtcrs, tc

    ukflrergfugtl stuflkts wjlk tjly sll TNs fcnke tjns wcri, gkf wjgt fcls nt blgk wjlk tjly grl goslktarcb tjlsl inkfs ca prc`lssls3 Ujgt fcls nt sneknay gocut tjl rchl, tjl phg`l, tjl vghul ca sgalty nks`nlk`l3 Cr, acr lxgbphl, fcls tjl TN stgrt hgo blltnkes oy tghinke gocut sgalty3 Fc tjly tghi gocut rl`lkt orlg`jls, pctlktngh g``nflkts, klgr bnssls, cr ns sgalty tjl outt ca tjl mcil3 Ns nt g prncrnty nk tjlcregknzgtnck3

    Pc, ckl ca tjl rl`cbblkfgtncks tjgt tjl Kgtnckgh _lslgr`j @cuk`nh gkf tjl Pgal P`nlk`l _lpcrt jgf nstjgt sgalty plracrbgk`l sjcuhf ol pgrt ca tjl prcbctnck fl`nsncks nk uknvlrsntnls, nt sjcuhf nkacrb tlkurlfl`nsncks, nt sjcuhf nkacrb pgy nk`rlgsls. Fc cregknzgtncks g`tughhy fc tjns3 Gkf wjlk tjly fc tjns, natjly wlrl tc fc tjns, nt wcuhf snekgh vlry strckehy wjgt rchl, wjgt phg`l sgalty jgs nk s`nlk`l, nk tjlcregknzgtnck, gkf, acr lxgbphl, nk tjl tlkurl prc`lss.

    Pc tjcsl grl gspl`ts tjgt ycu `gk coslrvl gocut g `uhturl ca g hgo cr g `uhturl ca gk cregknzgtnck. ^cu'rlecnke tc elt tjl nflg tcfgy tjgt `uhturls grl ghwgys jltlrcelklcus, tjly'rl buhtnphl. Vjlrl's kct `uhturl nkgk cregknzgtnck, tjlrl grl buhtnphl. @uhturl ns trgksbnttlf tjrcuej sc`nghnzgtnck prc`lssls. Pc, olenkknketjrcuej ergfugtl trgnknke cr lvlk lgrhnlr, rlslgr`jlrs grl coslrvnke gkf hlgrknke jcw su``lssauh blbolrsca tjlnr anlhf tjnki, g`t, gkf tghi. Pc jcw fcls g `cbpltlkt blbolr ca tjl `cbbuknty N olhcke tc oljgvl3Ns tjlrl gttlktnck tc sgalty, sl`urnty, gkf rnsi3 Ns tjgt pgrt ca olnke g rlspl`tlf rlslgr`jlr3 Vjlsl grlsnekghs tjgt wl slkf tc cur stuflkts gs wl trgnk tjlb gkf gs tjly ec cut nktc tjl wcrhf. Pc tjl `uhturl nstguejt.

     Kcw, jcw fc wl `jgkel `uhturl3 Pc na ycu tjnki gocut jcw fc `uhturls lvchvl gkf jcw fc wl `jgkeltjlb, tjns ns ckl ca tjl -- gk nssul wjlk ycu tjnki gocut rl`cbblkfgtnck acr jcw fc wl `rlgtl cr prcbctl g `uhturl ca rlspcksnonhnty, g `uhturl ca sgalty. Vjlrl grl rlghhy twc nflgs gocut tjns, gkf N'b

    ecnke tc tlhh ycu gocut tjl twc nflgh typls tjgt grl inkf ca gt tjl lkfs ca tjl spl`trub. Vjl anrst ns tjgt`uhturl `gk ol slha-`cks`ncushy lkenkllrlf, tjgt nt `gk ol flsneklf, gkf tjgt cregknzgtncks jgvl ollk gohltc fc tjns. Pc na ycu hcci gt Orntnsj Tltrchlub, na ycu hcci gt Fcw @jlbn`gh, octj ca tjlsl `cbpgknlsjgvl vlry strcke sgalty `uhturls. Vjlsl jgvl ollk tcp-fcwk `lktrghnzlf lkflgvcrs. Vjly grl shcw. Vjlygrl nk`rlfnohy lxplksnvl. Vjly rlqunrl ckecnke bgnktlkgk`l. Vjlrl grl lktnrl flpgrtblkts ca plcphl wjcgrl rlspcksnohl acr sgalty `uhturl. Pc sgalty `uhturls `gk ol `jgkelf gkf rllkenkllrlf rlflsneklf wjlkwl grl cplrgtnke nk g vlry ourlgu`rgtn` lkvnrckblkt.

    Vjl ctjlr wgy tc tjnki gocut jcw `uhturls flvlhcp out ghsc jcw tjly `jgkel ns tjl lblrelkt bcflh. Vjnsbcflh ns bcrl suntlf tc s`nlktnan` lkflgvcr ol`gusl nt g`ikcwhlfels tjgt lg`j fns`nphnkl cr suo-fns`nphnklghrlgfy jgs g `uhturl. Vjlrl ns ghrlgfy g `uhturl ca sgalty. Nt's chf. Nt's lstgohnsjlf nk bcst s`nlktnan`fns`nphnkls, gkf tjgt tjlsl fns`nphnkls grl kct `hcslhy cr `lktrghhy bgkgelf cr tcp-fcwk bgkgelf. Vjly

    lblrel gkf tjly ercw gkf tjly `jgkel cvlr tnbl.

    Gkf sc tjlrl rlghhy, nk s`nlktnan` `uhturls gkf hgocrgtcry `uhturls, tjlrl rlghhy grl -- bgky plcphl wcuhfgreul gkf N fc greul -- rlghhy hnbntlf blgks ca tcp-fcwk `lktrghnzlf `uhturl `jgkel. Gkf tjgt `uhturl nsecnke tc jgvl tc lblrel arcb wntjnk s`nlktnan` fns`nphnkls gkf suo-fns`nphnkls. Gkf wl ikcw arcbstufynke `uhturl cvlr hcke plrncfs ca tnbl tjgt tjns catlk jgpplks ol`gusl ca g sjc`i cr g `jgkel nk tjllkvnrckblkt wjn`j rlqunrls tjgt tjl `uhturl gfmust ntslha gkf `jgkel. Nt's shcw, out nt's vlry laal`tnvl ol`gusl nt's slha-rlprcfu`nke9 rnejt3 Na ycu tjnki gocut jcw `uhturl ns trgksbnttlf, ck`l nt olenks tc`jgkel, nt's g prc`lss ca sc`nghnznke lg`j elklrgtnck fnaalrlkthy.

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     N wgkt tc cvlrhgy `uhturl ck tjl ctjlr nbpcrtgkt ag`tcr tjgt nkahulk`ls gkf sjgpls fl`nsnck-bginke gkf oljgvncr rlhgtlf tc sgalty gkf sl`urnty, gkf tjgt ns tjl sc`ngh cregknzgtnck cr tjl cregknzgtnckgh stru`turl cabcst rlslgr`j nkstntutncks. Pc wjgt rlslgr`j nkstntutncks, uknvlrsntnls, jcspntghs, cr prcalssnckgh ourlgu`rg`nls, wjgt tjns blgks ns tjgt ycu jgvl gk cregknzgtnck tjgt jgs twc vlry fnaalrlkt snfls.

    Ck ckl snfl ycu jgvl tjl gfbnknstrgtnck. Vjns ns catlk wjlrl LJKP ns hc`gtlf, tjl plcphl wjc grlrlspcksnohl acr lksurnke sgalty nk hgocrgtcrnls. Vjgt snfl ca tjl cregknzgtnck jgs g vlry strcke ourlgu`rgtn`hcen`. Vjlrl tlkfs tc ol uknty ca `cbbgkf, wjn`j blgks lg`j plrsck rlpcrts up tc gkctjlr plrsck. Vjgt plrsck jgs acrbgh gutjcrnty cvlr tjlnr fnrl`t rlpcrts. Vjly jgvl tjl gonhnty tc jnrl, anrl. Vjlrl tlkfs tc ol`lktrghnzlf fl`nsnck-bginke. Gkf tjlrl grl vlry stgohl gkf flanklf rchls, rlhgtncksjnps, gkf ruhls. Vjns nsg vlry stgohl pgrt ca tjl cregknzgtnck, gkf ckl tjgt wl sll bcrl orcgfhy cut tjlrl nk tjl l`ckcby. Gkftjns snfl ca tjl cregknzgtnck illps tjl phg`l rukknke. Vjns ns wjlrl ycu ankf ankgk`l. Vjns ns wjlrl ycuankf g``cuktnke, J_, gkf LJ gkf P.Ck tjl ctjlr snfl ca tjl cregknzgtnck, wl jgvl tjl g`gflbn` snfl, gkf nt cplrgtls g``crfnke tc g`cbphltlhy fnaalrlkt hcen`. Nt cplrgtls g``crfnke tc tjl prcalssnckgh hcen`s ca lg`j fns`nphnkl. Gt hlgst nktjlcry, wl cplrgtl g``crfnke tc `chhlengh ecvlrkgk`l. Ul jgvl g bcrl flbc`rgtn` wgy ca cregknznke. TNsjgvl gk lkcrbcus gbcukt ca gutckcby nk jcw tjly cregknzl gkf ruk tjlnr hgocrgtcrnls. Fl`nsnck-bginke

    ns jnejhy fl`lktrghnzlf, catlk cplrgtls g``crfnke tc vlrogh gerllblkts. Vrust ns g vlry nbpcrtgkt`cbpcklkt nk jcw tjnkes elt fckl nk tjlsl hgocrgtcrnls. Gkf tjlsl hgocrgtcrnls grl catlk nk ahux. Vjlywcri ck scat bckly. Vjly grl wgntnke acr rlslgr`j ergkts. Pc tjl rlscur`ls, tjl blbolrsjnp, tjl g`tnvntnlsgrl ̀ jgkenke `cktnkucushy.

    Pc ckl tjnke tc rlghnzl, na wl tjnki gocut `jgkenke `uhturl, ns nt's quntl lgsy tc `jgkel -- nt's pcssnohl, gkftjlrl grl blgks `lktrghhy tc `jgkel `uhturl ck tjl gfbnknstrgtnvl snfl nk pgrt ol`gusl gfbnknstrgtnckg`tughhy ikcws wjc wcris acr tjlb. Nt ol`cbls g hntthl bcrl fnaan`uht wjlk wl ec tc tjl g`gflbn` snfl catjl cregknzgtnck wjlrl wl fck't jgvl lvlk g `lktrgh rlenstry ca wjc's wcrinke nk lvlry hgocrgtcry, ol`gusl wl jgvl vnsntcrs, wl jgvl pcst-fc`s, wl jgvl ergfugtl stuflkts, wl jgvl ukflrergfugtl stuflkts,wl jgvl hgo bgkgelrs wjc `cbl gkf ec gs bckly grrnvls gkf hlgvls.

    Nk gffntnck tc tjns, tjlsl hgocrgtcrnls auk`tnck g``crfnke tc rlhgtncks ca flplkflk`y. Ul jgvl ergfugtlstuflkts nk tjlsl hgocrgtcrnls tjgt grl catlk, gs N'hh tlhh ycu nk g bnkutl, envlk rlspcksnonhnty acr sgalty gkfsl`urnty. Jcwlvlr, wjnhl tjly jgvl tjns rlspcksnonhnty, tjly grl stnhh jnejhy flplkflkt ck tjlnr TN acr tjlstgrt ca tjlnr `grllr. Vjly rlqunrl tjl gpprcvgh ca tjlnr TN tc ergfugtl, acr lxgbphl, tjly rlqunrl hlttlrs carl`cbblkfgtnck arcb tjlsl plcphl, gkf tjly rlqunrl, argkihy, ckecnke suppcrt arcb tjlsl plcphl,gfvc`gtnck arcb tjlsl plcphl tjrcuejcut tjlnr `grllr. Pc, g rlghhy nktlrlstnke fykgbn` wjlk ycu hcci gttjlsl twc snfls ca tjl cregknzgtnck rukknke vlry fnaalrlkthy. Nt's ghsc nbpcrtgkt tc kctl tjgt nk bcstcregknzgtncks tjl gfbnknstrgtnvl snfl jgs hlss sgy, tjgt tjl g`gflbn`s tlkf tc ruk tjl cregknzgtnck, gkf nknktlrg`tncks oltwllk g`gflbn`s gkf gfbnknstrgtnck ycu `gk arlqulkthy sll tjlsl pcwlr nboghgk`ls.

    Pc tjns jgs nbphn`gtncks acr jcw wl tjnki gocut sgalty gkf sl`urnty, rlspcksnonhnty, wjc ns rlspcksnohl gkfjcw fc wl lksurl rlspcksnonhnty acr tjlsl rlqunrlblkts, wjc jgs gutjcrnty nk tjlsl cregknzgtnckgh

    stru`turls tc lkacr`l, gkf wjc ns g`tughhy fcnke tjl ag`nhntgtnke ca `cbphngk`l. Nt ghsc jgs nbphn`gtnckswjlk wl tghi gocut rl`cbblkfgtncks acr `uhturl `jgkel, wjn`j `uhturl grl wl tghinke gocut gkf wjgt grlecnke tc ol tjl scur`ls ca `jgkel acr tjcsl `uhturls.

    N wgkt tc tlhh ycu g hntthl ont gocut tjl ankfnkes wl jgvl gocut `cbphngk`l nk hgocrgtcrnls gkf jcw`cbphngk`l ns g`jnlvlf nk hgocrgtcrnls. Gkf N wgkt tc bgil nt vlry `hlgr tjgt cur rlslgr`j jgs kct ollk nkOH0 cr OH6 hgocrgtcrnls. Vjns ns g hgrel egp nk tjl rlslgr`j. Nt ns rlhgtlf tc tjl fnaan`uhty ca cotgnknkeg``lss acr plcphl hnil bl. Ul kllf gerllblkts arcb slvlrgh hlvlhs. Gkf sc tjns ns scbltjnke N'b pursunke, out tjns inkf ca g``lss ns fnaan`uht tc elt gkf tgils tnbl.

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     Pc hlt bl tlhh ycu wjgt wl acukf g`rcss hgocrgtcrnls tjgt grl kct OH0 cr OH6 hgocrgtcrnls. Gkf jlrl grlscbl ca tjl jnejhnejts ca tjl ankfnkes. Anrst ns tjgt rlslgr`jlrs lxplrnlk`l `cbphngk`l rlqulsts gsnktrusncks gkf nbplfnblkts tc tjlnr wcri. Vjns sjcuhf kct ol surprnsnke wjlk N sjcw ycu jcw tjlsl twcsnfls ca tjl cregknzgtnck wcri. Pc ourlgu`rgtn` nflgs gocut anhhnke cut pgplrwcri, gocut `cbphltnkeacrbs, gocut fcnke tjnkes g``crfnke tc g s`jlfuhl fck't ant wntj tjl sgbl hcen` tjgt jgpplks ck tjl ctjlr

    snfl ca tjl cregknzgtnck. _lslgr`jlrs -- TNs tlkf tc `cbbukn`gtl sgalty gs plrnpjlrgh tc rlslgr`j wcri,gkf nt ns catlk flhlegtlf tc ergfugtl stuflkts nk tjl hgocrgtcrnls. Ul sll tjgt, gkf tjlrl grl scbl rlghhykn`l stufnls tjgt sjcw, jcw rlslgr`jlrs grl vlry wnhhnke tc nk`crpcrgtl sgalty algturls nktc tjlnr prg`tn`lswjlk tjly ghnek wntj laacrts -- tjl s`nlktnan` laacrts -- tc `cktrch pjysn`gh bgttlr.

    Ul ghsc ikcw arcb scbl erlgt wcri tjgt Pusgk Pnholy ns fcnke tjgt wjlk wl hcci g`rcss ckl nkstntutnckacr tlk ylgrs gkf wl gkghyzl tjl nkspl`tnck rlsuhts, wl gkghyzl tjl Ynkfns`lrknohlR nk`nflkt rlsuhts. Ulikcw tjgt bcst vnchgtncks grl, anrst ca ghh, vlry bnkcr. Pc tjlsl grl sgalty vnchgtncks rlhgtlf tc oncsgaltybgtlrnghs, rgfncnsctcpls, `jlbn`ghs, lvlry scrt ca jgzgrf ycu `gk nbgenkl nk hgocrgtcrnls. Bcst ca tjlvnchgtncks grl bnkcr. Vjly grl jcuslillpnke. Pc tjns blgks tjgt tjnkes grl bnshgolhlf. Vjns blgks tjgt`gps grl kct ck octthls. Vjns blgks tjgt tjl hgo kllfs tc ol tnfnlf. Vjns blgks tjgt sneks jgvl kct ollkupfgtls.

    Ul ghsc ikcw tjgt g sbghh kubolr ca hgocrgtcrnls g``cukt acr tjl bgmcrnty ca tjl vnchgtncks. Cigy, sc wlsll plcphl sbnhnke. Ul ikcw wjc tjcsl plcphl grl nk lg`j ckl ca cur nkstntutncks. Nt's kct g surprnsl tchlgrk tjgt vnchgtncks ec up wjlk prcalsscrs elt tlkurl. Nt's ghsc kct g surprnsl tc ikcw tjgt wjlk ycu jgvlg auhh tnbl hgo bgkgelr, ycu jgvl alwlr vnchgtncks. Cigy, sc tjns ns gocut rlscur`ls. Vjgt hgst pcnkt nsgocut rlscur`ls.

    Jlrl's wjgt lhsl wl ikcw. Ul ikcw arcb cur rlslgr`j gocut tjl nk`rlfnohl nbpcrtgk`l ca tjl tl`jkc-hlegh lxplrts nk lg`j ckl ca tjlsl cregknzgtncks. Pc tjlsl grl tjl plcphl wjc catlk wcri ck tjlgfbnknstrgtnvl snfl ca tjl cregknzgtnck, nk Lkvnrckblktgh Jlghtj gkf Pgalty (LJ&P). Vjlsl grl tjl plcphl wjc pn`i up tjl shg`i tc bgil surl tjgt ghh tjl `cbphngk`l jgpplks. Pc wl ikcw tjgt oncsgaltycaan`lrs, jlghtj pjysn`nsts, nkfustrngh jyenlknsts wjc catlk ouaalr rlslgr`jlrs arcb tjnkes tjgt grl

    nbpcrtgkt acr `cbphngk`l wjlk TNs lntjlr fck't jgvl tjl rlscur`ls tc fc tjlb, fck't jgvl tnbl tc fc tjlb,fck't sll tjlb gs pgrt ca tjlnr mco, su`j gs rl`crfillpnke, nkspl`tnck rlpcrts, hccinke gt `crrl`tnck gkfbgnktgnknke `cbphngk`l. Pc tjlsl plcphl grl nk`rlfnohy nbpcrtgkt nk bgkgenke tjl egp oltwllk `urrlkt prg`tn`ls gkf rleuhgtncks cr ctjlr rlqunrlblkts.

    Ul ikcw tjgt plcphl wjc grl vlry eccf gt tjlsl mcos grl gohl tc klectngtl nk`rlgslf `cbphngk`l oywcrinke nk tjl hgocrgtcrnls. Ujlk oncsgalty caan`lrs gfcpt tjl hcen` ca TNs, tjgt blgks tjgt tjly wcri ck prnk`nphls ca trust, agbnhngrnty, tjly flvlhcp rlhgtncks, tjly flbckstrgtl tc s̀ nlktnsts tjgt tjly ukflrstgkfwjgt nt blgks tc wcri nk g hgocrgtcry, gkf tjly fc tjns oy g`tughhy olnke nk hgocrgtcrnls arlqulkthy,elttnke tc ikcw tjl hgos, fcnke wcri nk tjl hgocrgtcrnls acr s`nlktnsts. Catlk nt's kct ehgbcrcus wcri, outs`nlktnsts gpprl`ngtl nt.

    Pc tjly grl gohl tc fc g alw tjnkes. Ckl, tjly'rl gohl tc gktn`npgtl prcohlbs. Vjlsl plcphl grl gohl tc, acrlxgbphl, ukflrstgkf wjlk TNs grl rukknke hcw ck bckly. Ujlk tjly ikcw TNs grl rukknke hcw ckbckly, tjly ikcw tjly jgvl tc `jl`i bcrl catlk. Vjly ikcw tjgt tjly bgy jgvl tc caalr aukfs tc jlhptjlb elt rnf ca wgstl cr tc jlhp tjlb cregknzl scbl `cbphngk`l nssuls. Ujlk TNs grl nk tjl tlkurl prc`lss gkf tjly fck't bgil nt, tjly ikcw tjlsl grl tjl hgos. Pc tjly ikcw tjns nkacrbgtnck. Vjly ikcwtjlsl grl tjl hgos tjly jgvl tc gttlkf tc.

    Ujlk tjly ikcw g hgo ns `hcsl tc g fns`cvlry, wrgppnke up, elttnke tc tjl lkf ca g rlslgr`j prcml`t, tjlyikcw tjly jgvl tc ec bcrl arlqulkthy. Vjly ikcw plcphl grl tnrlf. Vjly ikcw plcphl grl lx`ntlf. Gkf

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    tjlsl grl tjl plcphl tjgt grl gohl tc nflktnay lblrenke fgkelrs. Vjly ghsc ikcw wjlk hgocrgtcrnls grl`jgkenke tjl rlslgr`j ac`us, sc tjly'rl usnke klw bgtlrnghs, klw prctc`chs, tjgt tjly bgy kllf fnaalrlkt`cktgnkblkt hlvlhs cr fnaalrlkt prg`tn`ls. Pc tjlsl plcphl grl lxtrlblhy nbpcrtgkt tc bgnktgnknke`cbphngk`l nk hgocrgtcrnls.

    Vjly catlk frgw -- gkf tjns N'b hlgrknke arcb by rlslgr`j nk @gkgfg -- ck rlqunrlblkts gkf rleuhgtncks

    tc nk`rlgsl tjlnr gutjcrnty nk hgocrgtcrnls. Pc, envnke Oncsgalty Caan`lrs (OPCs) rleuhgtncks gkfrlqunrlblkts ghhcws tjlb tc lxlr`nsl bcrl gutjcrnty nk rlhgtnck tc TNs. Ul ghsc ikcw tjgt tjlsl plcphlgrl `jrckn`ghhy ukflraukflf. Ul usughhy fck't jgvl lkcuej ca tjlb nk cur rlslgr`j nkstntutncks.

    Pc tjlrl grl twc nbphn`gtncks arcb tjlsl ankfnkes. Vjl anrst ns tjgt na wl'rl ecnke tc tjnki gocut `uhturl`jgkel nk rlhgtnck tc tjl inkfs ca prcml`ts tjgt wl'rl tghinke gocut nk tjns pgklh out ghsc bcrl orcgfhy nks`nlk`l, tjl rlslgr`j sueelsts tjgt tjl `jgkel jgs tc `cbl arcb wntjnk tjl s`nlktnan` fns`nphnkl cr suo-fns`nphnkl, gkf tjgt nk crflr tc `rlgtl sgalr, bcrl sl`url hgocrgtcrnls, octj wntjnk nkstntutnckgh ocukfgrnls out ghsc cutsnfl ca nkstntutnckgh ocukfgrnls, wl kllf tc `rlgtl -- gkf tjns kllfs tc `cbl arcb wntjnkfns`nphnkls -- aukfgblktgh `jgkels tc wjgt nt blgks tc ol g `cbpltlkt rlslgr`jlr, tjgt tc ol g `cbpltlktrlslgr`jlr nt blgks ghsc jgvnke g slksl ca rlspcksnonhnty acr sgalty gkf sl`urnty gkf tjgt tjns ns pgrt ca olnke g `cbpltlkt blbolr ca tjl `cbbuknty, pgynke gttlktnck tc tjlsl nssuls.

    Ujgt ns erlgt gocut tjns inkf ca gpprcg`j tc `uhturl `jgkel, nt's g shcw prc`lss, nt's vlry laal`tnvl ol`guslnt's slha-rlprcfu`nke. Nt ns ghsc ehcogh. Pc tjl prcalssnck ns ehcogh. Ujgt nt blgks tc ol gk nbbukchcenst nsg rgtjlr ehcogh flankntnck. Na wjgt nt blgks tc ol g eccf nbbukchcenst blgks tjgt ycu pgy gttlktnck tcnssuls ca sgalty, jlghtj gkf sl`urnty tjgt `gk sprlgf ehcoghhy, olyckf octj nkstntutnckgh ocukfgrnls gkfkgtnckgh ocukfgrnls.Pl`ckf, tjl rlslgr`j sjcws tjgt wl kllf nk`rlgslf suppcrt cr wl kllf tc suppcrt gt hlgst tjl OPC oy`rlgtnke g `cbbuknty ca prg`tn`l cr oy lkjgk`nke tjl lxnstnke `cbbukntnls ca prg`tn`l gkf tjl lxnstnke prcalssnck. Pc wl kllf tc ukflrstgkf wjgt tjly ikcw gkf ounhf ck wjgt tjly ikcw gocut prg`tn`ghhy jcwns sgalty gkf sl`urnty prcfu`lf ck gk ckecnke ogsns. Pc, nk `chhgocrgtnck wntj OPCs gkf TNs, wl kllf tcflvlhcp stufnls tjgt gffrlss tjl `cbphngk`l egps tjgt tjly coslrvl nk hgocrgtcrnls, gkf wl kllf tc ankfwgys tc sjgrl tjlsl ankfnkes gbcke tjl prg`tntncklrs gkf tc flvlhcp gkf sjgrl tcchs gkf bcflhs tjgt `gk

    jlhp tjlsl prcalssnckghs ̀ cktnkucushy prcfu`l ̀ cbphngk`l nk hgocrgtcrnls.

    N wgktlf tc tlhh ycu vlry qun`ihy gocut tjl rlspcksnonhnty bcvlblkt, wjn`j ns jgpplknke nk scbl grlgs cas`nlk`l. Vjl lxtlkt gkf tjl laal`t ca tjlsl laacrts grl uk`hlgr. Vjlsl grl rlslgr`jlrs wntjnk fnaalrlkt grlgswjc grl g`ikcwhlfenke tjlnr cohnegtnck tc sc`nlty, gkf tjly'rl fnvlrtnke rlscur`ls arcb ac`gh s`nlk`l tcstufynke tjl sgalty ca prc`lssls, bgtlrnghs, gkf prcfu`ts, gkf wl sll tjns nk erllk `jlbnstry, wl sll nt nkkgkctl`jkchcey, nk syktjltn` onchcey wl sll gk nk`rlgsnke ac`us ck tjns, gkf ghsc, surprnsnkehy bgyol acrscbl plcphl, ns tjl wgy nk wjn`j tjl fc-nt-ycurslha `cbbuknty ns g`tnvlhy tjnkinke gocut sgalty gkfsl`urnty tjrcuej `cfls ca `ckfu`t. Out ghsc wl'vl stgrtlf tc stufy scbl ca tjlsl `cbbukntnls nk tjlnrfgnhy rleuhgr blltnkes, ck tjlnr wlosntls, nk tjlnr nktlrg`tncks. Pgalty gkf sl`urnty grl g`tughhy nk tjl arcktca tjlnr bnkfs.

    Gkf tjlk, hgsthy, tjns ns gk nkkcvgtnvl prcergb tjgt jgs -- nt's rlhgtlf tc `jlbn`gh sgalty, out nt's g`chhgocrgtnck oltwllk g uknvlrsnty gkf Fcw @jlbn`ghs nk wjn`j tjly'rl tginke ergfugtl stuflkts cvlr tcFcw gkf tlg`jnke tjlb jcw sgalty `uhturls wcri tjlrl, gkf envnke tjlb aukfs gkf rlscur`ls tc try tc ornke tjcsl sgalty `uhturls tc tjl uknvlrsnty. Pc tjlrl grl laacrts tc tjnki gocut `uhturgh `jgkel, octjtjrcuej tjl rlspcksnonhnty bcvlblkt gkf tjrcuej nktrcfu`nke prcergbs hnil tjns. Jlrl's tjl `cfl ca`ckfu`t arcb tjl FN^ onchcey ercup nk tjl Ynkfns`lrknohlR nk Lurcpl.

    Pc N eulss, nk `ck`husnck, g alw tjnkes tjgt wl ikcw arcb tjl rlslgr`j gkf tjgt N wcuhf rl`cbblkf tjgttjl blbolrs ca tjl ocgrf `cksnflr cr tjnki gocut jcw tjns `cuhf wcri ns tjgt `uhturl `jgkel wnhh ol bcst

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    su``lssauh na nt `cbls arcb wntjnk tjl s`nlktnan` prcalssncks. Nt's hnilhy tc `rlgtl hcke-tlrb `jgkels gkfehcogh `jgkels. Gkf tjgt wl kllf tc ac`us ck tjl rchl ca OPCs nk prcfu`nke tjl sgalty gkf sl`urnty nk tjlhgocrgtcrnls. Gkf, gs ctjlr plcphl jgvl sgnf ghrlgfy ylstlrfgy, wl rlqunrl bcrl rlslgr`j ck tjl fgnhyfl`nsncks gkf prg`tn`ls nk hgocrgtcrnls. Nk pgrtn`uhgr, wl grl bnssnke rlslgr`j ck tjl hlvlh tjrll gkf tjlhlvlh acur hgocrgtcrnls. Vjgki ycu.

    Ans`jjcaa= Vjgki ycu.

    Jukthly-Alkklr= Pc, eccf bcrknke. Ujnhl wl'rl slttnke up tjl shnfls, N'hh must nktrcfu`l byslha. N'b EgvnkJukthly-Alkklr. N'b ecnke tc tghi tcfgy g hntthl ont gocut jubgk ag`tcrs. Gkf N'b ecnke tc ac`us ck tjl prcohlb ca gttgnknke tjl rnsi rlfu`tnck coml`tnvls cuthnklf nk tjl KPGOO frgat. Gkf N tjnki tjgt oynk`crpcrgtnke jubgk ag`tcrs, wl `gk -- wl kllf tc nk`crpcrgtl jubgk ag`tcrs nk crflr tc gttgnk tjlslcoml`tnvls. N'b ecnke tc bcvl agnrhy qun`ihy tjrcuej scbl ca by shnfls, gkf N'b jcplauh tjgt wl'hh jgvlfns`ussnck tjgt wnhh nhhubnkgtl scbl ca tjcsl lgrhnlr pcnkts.

    Pc, must tc cuthnkl, N'b ecnke tc tghi gocut jubgk ag`tcrs, tjl rchl ca jubgk ag`tcrs fgtg nk oncsgalty gkf oncsl`urnty. N'hh tghi gocut tjl cppcrtuknty. Vjnki ca tjns gs tjl snzl ca tjl prnzl, na ycu wnhh. Gkf tjlk N'hhtry tc pcnkt tc tjl auturl, ol`gusl N fc tjnki tjgt tjlrl grl scbl lx`ntnke cptncks acr us ck`l wl stgrt tc

    `chhl`t tjl rnejt inkf ca fgtg.

    Pc wjgt ns ‘jubgk ag`tcrs‒3 Pnbphy put, nt's tjl stufy ca jubgk rlhngonhnty. Gkf wl frgw ck jubgk`gpgonhntnls gkf hnbntgtncks nk crflr tc ukflrstgkf jcw tc flsnek lkvnrckblkts, fc acrlksn` gkghysns ck`lgfvlrsl lvlkts jgpplk. Ujlk wl fc tjcsl typls ca gkghysls, acrlksn` gkghysls, acr lxgbphl, wl ankf tjgtjubgk ag`tcrs, cr jubgk lrrcr, na ycu wnhh, grl g `cktrnoutnke `gusl nk tjl vgst bgmcrnty ca nk`nflkts. Gkf,`hlgrhy, tjns ns g prncrnty, N tjnki, gs nkfn`gtlf nk tjl KPGOO rlpcrt, tjgt tjl rl`cbblkfgtnck kubolr acur,wjn`j _utjgkkl pcnktlf tc, tjns nflg ca g `uhturl ca sgalty N tjnki rlsts ck tjl gonhnty tc `cktrch -- ck tjlnflg tjgt wl'rl ecnke tc ol gohl tc `cktrch lrrcr. Jcwlvlr, wl grl `jghhlkelf oy g hg`i ca eccf fgtg ckjubgk rlhngonhnty gkf jubgk lrrcr, gkf _c``c @gsgergkfl tghilf gocut tjgt ylstlrfgy.

    Cvlr tnbl gkf g`rcss nkfustrnls gkf nk tlrbs ca hgo sgalty -- tjl pn`turl ns snbnhgr -- wl'rl sllnke tjgt

    jubgk lrrcr ns gk nk`rlgsnke prcpcrtnck ca tjl nkmurnls cr tjl `gusls tjgt hlgf tc gfvlrsl lvlkts. Pcbl catjl `cktrnoutnke ag`tcrs wjlk ycu hcci gt tjl nkfnvnfugh plrsck hlvlh nk`hufl tjnkes hnil nk`rlgslf agtneulful tc jcurs wcri. Ul must jlgrf gocut hcke jcurs gkf tjl nbpg`t tjgt bnejt jgvl ck tjl sgalty oljgvncrgkf sgalty `uhturl.

    Out tjlrl grl hcts ca ctjlr tjnkes tjgt `gk `cktrnoutl tc tjl lblrelk`l ca lrrcr. Gkf ghh ca tjlsl `cbonkltc, G, rlfu`l tjl gpphn`gtnck ca sinhh. Vjgt ns scbltjnke ycu'vl hlgrklf jcw tc fc gkf ycu jgvl tc fc ntcvlr gkf cvlr gegnk. ^cu bgy bgil bcrl lrrcrs wjlk ycu'rl tnrlf, acr lxgbphl, gkf ghsc rlfu`l nk`cekntnvl auk`tnck9 tjgt ns bginke fl`nsncks gocut rnsi gkf gkghyznke g sntugtnck acr sgalty cr tjl prcplrgpprcg`j tc fcnke tjl prcohlb. UJC `ghhs cut jubgk lrrcr gs g prnbgry hgo oncsl`urnty `ck`lrk. Gkf N'hh must blktnck ornlahy tjgt na ycu `gk `cktrch jubgk rlhngonhnty cr rlfu`l lrrcr, ycu g``rul olklants nk octj oncsl`urnty gkf oncsgalty.

    Gkf, gs N blktncklf, wl ikcw arcb tjl Erypjck rlpcrt tjgt tjns ns -- tjlrl's g flgrtj ca fgtg jlrl. Pc cklca tjl pcnkts N'f hnil tc bgil ns N'f hnil us tc tjnki gocut tjl cppcrtuknty tc `chhl`t fgtg. Ujgt fcls tjgthcci hnil3 Ulhh, rnejt kcw, na wl hcci gt tjl fgtg wl jgvl gkf wl sll alw gfvlrsl lvlkts, wl bgy oltlbptlf tc tjnki tjgt tjgt blgks tjgt wl'rl fcnke g eccf mco. Out, nk ag`t, bcst ca tjl nbpcrtgkt bgrilrsacr sgalty grl hgtlkt. Gkf tjns ns gk nbgel tjgt ycu'vl sllk olacrl, tjns nflg ca hgtlk`y, ca uklxprlsslf pctlktngh ns scbltjnke tjgt wnhh `ut g`rcss, N tjnki, g hct ca cur tghis tcfgy.

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    Pc, acr lxgbphl, nk tjns pgrtn`uhgr bltgpjcr, ycu'vl ect tjl nflg ca -- ycu'vl ect g``nflkts, wjn`j grl tjltjnkes wl coslrvl, gkf nk`nflkts, wjn`j grl tjnkes wl bgy -- g``nflkts wl coslrvl tjgt rlsuht nk g spl`nan`nkmury, hlt's sgy9 nk`nflkts, wjn`j bgy ol tjnkes tjgt wl rl`crf9 gkf tjlk tjlrl grl g hct ca ctjlr tjnkes tjgtwl fck't rl`crf, wl bgy cr bgy kct rl`crf tjgt g``rul tc pctlktngh sgal rnsi. Gkf wl ikcw acr surl tjgttjl octtcb ca tjgt n`lolre lxnsts. Vjl Elklrgh G``cuktnke Caan`l fnf g stufy nk ?44>, hccinke gt hgtlktlrrcrs tjgt jgvl ollk rlpcrtlf gkf suostgktngtlf tjgt stcry.

    Lgrhy hgst ylgr, N wrctl gk cp-lf ck tjns nk wjn`j N greulf tjgt jubgk lrrcr ns nklvntgohl. Out wjgt fclstjgt blgk3 Vjl nklvntgonhnty ca jubgk lrrcr fcls kct blgk tjgt egnk ca auk`tnck stufnls ca `ck`lrk sjcuhfkct ol fckl. Nk ag`t, nt blgks tjl cppcsntl. Nt sueelsts tjgt na wl ukflrstgkf tjl `cktrnoutnke `gusls tclrrcr, tjgt wl bust ukflrstgkf tjl `cktrnoutnke `gusls tc lrrcr, gkf gssubl tjgt tjlrl ns scbl lrrcr nawl'rl ecnke tc laal`tnvlhy `cktnkul tjl rlslgr`j. Gkf N tjnki jubgk ag`tcrs wnhh prcvnfl tcchs acrflsneknke gkf nbphlblktnke systlbs nk wjn`j tjlrl grl alwlr lrrcrs gkf/cr tjl nbpg`t ca lrrcrs grlbntnegtlf na gkf wjlk tjly fc c``ur.

    Hlt's tghi gocut tjl snzl ca tjl prnzl. Ul sgw nk tjl Erypjck P`nlktnan` rlpcrt tjgt tjlrl ns pctlktnghhy gsneknan`gkt upsnfl arcb g rnsi rlfu`tnck plrspl`tnvl tc rlfu`nke jubgk lrrcr, wjltjlr wl'rl tghinke gocutwcrilrs wjc grl wcrinke wntj slgsckgh nkahulkzg cr @crckgvnrus, cr wjltjlr wl'rl hccinke gt jgkf

    `cktgbnkgtnck nssuls cr must wcri lrrcrs nk elklrgh, tjlrl's g sneknan`gkt rnsi rlfu`tnck olklant pctlktngh.

    Pcbl snbphl gpprcg`jls, sc hlt's tghi gocut scbl qun`i wnks. Ujgt grl tjl tjnkes wl `gk fc kcw wntj tjlnkacrbgtnck tjgt wl jgvl cr tjl tcchs tjgt wl jgvl rnejt kcw nk crflr tc rlfu`l lrrcrs3 G snbphl `jl`ihnstjgs ollk sjcwk tc ol gk laal`tnvl tcch nk rlfu`nke lrrcrs, tjgt ns acr`nke plcphl tc stcp, tgil stc`i ca wjgttjly'rl fcnke nk tjl bcblkt, gkf must bgil surl tjgt tjly'rl achhcwnke stgkfgrf cplrgtnke prc`lfurls ns, nkgkf ca ntslha, gk nbpcrtgkt tcch. Out tjlrl grl ghsc ctjlr tjnkes tjgt wl `gk fc tc rlghhy ukflrstgkf lrrcrstjgt aghh nktc tjl `gtlecry ca qun`i wnks.

     KGPG, nk ?474, ag`lf tjl sgbl prcohlb tjgt cur oncsgalty gkf oncsl`urnty hgos ag`l tcfgy, tjgt ns tjlrlwgs g flgrtj ca fgtg ck jubgk lrrcr tjgt wgs spl`nan` tc KGPG cplrgtncks. Vjly acukf tjlbslhvls puhhnke fgtg arcb hcts ca fnaalrlkt scur`ls nk crflr tc ukflrstgkf rlhngonhnty nk g KGPG `cktlxt. Gkf tjly

    lsslktnghhy put g juel laacrt oljnkf fcnke g fllp fnvl ck tjl fgtg tjgt tjly fnf jgvl gkf `gbl up wntjscbl rlhngonhnty fgtg tjgt kcw jlhplf eunfl scbl ca tjlnr fl`nsnck-bginke grcukf rnsi, gkf trgnknke tcrlfu`l rnsi.

    Nk Lurcpl, tjns ns gk lxgbphl arcb Olhenub hccinke gt hgocrgtcry-g`qunrlf nkal`tncks. Qlry, vlry lgsytjnke -- wlhh, "lgsy" -- wjgt N `ghh nk tjl `gtlecry -- put nk tjl `gtlecry "Wun`i Unks," g survlynke bgnhlfcr flhnvlrlf oy Nktlrklt tc hgos g`rcss Olhenub flsneklf tc elt gk ukflrstgkfnke, g skgpsjctukflrstgkfnke ca tjl stgtus ca qughnty gkf jubgk rlhngonhnty nk hgos. Pc, jlrl, ycu'rl hccinke gt tjlslerllk, ohul, gkf rlf ogrs. Nt bgy ol jgrf tc rlgf arcb ycur pcsntnck, out tjl erllk sgys tjlrl's strn`t`cbphngk`l wntj tjlsl blgsurls cr prg`tn`ls. Nk ohul, nk elklrgh, tjns blgsurl ns rlspl`tlf wlhh. Nk rlf,tjns blgsurl ns catlk kct rlspl`tlf cr put nktc prg`tn`l. Gkf wl'rl hccinke gt wlgrnke g hgo `cgst nk tjlanrst `chubk, wlgrnke ehcvls nk tjl sl`ckf, `jgkenke prctl`tnvl `hctjnke, `grrynke g rlspnrgtcry bgsi,

    `grrynke sgalty eceehls cr g ag`l prctl`tcr. @hlgrhy, ycu elt g skgpsjct vnlw ca tjl vgrngonhnty nk qughnty crrlhngonhnty g`rcss fnaalrlkt hgos.

    Out ukflrstgkfnke tjl stgtus quc ns ckl tjnke. Blgsurnke lxnstnke lrrcr rgtls cr rlhngonhnty ns ckl tjnke.@cktrchhnke nt ns gkctjlr. Gkf N fc tjnki tjgt wl kllf tc put scbl laacrt nktc tjnkinke gocut wjgt nt ns wlfc wntj tjl fgtg ck`l wl'vl ect nt nk. Jcw fc wl g`tughhy blgsurl tjl vgrngohls tjgt wnhh ghhcw us tc`cktrch gkf rlfu`l tjl hnilhnjccf ca lrrcr3

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    Pc tjns ns g pgplr tjgt aghhs nktc tjgt `gtlecry, puohnsjlf must tjns ylgr, ?471, hccinke gt ag`tcrs gssc`ngtlfwntj OH? rlslgr`j wcrilrs' jgkfwgsjnke oljgvncr, gkf hccinke spl`nan`ghhy gt jcw nt ns ycu g`tughhynk`rlgsl jgkfwgsjnke oljgvncr. Gkf nk tjns pgrtn`uhgr oljgvncr tjly rl`cbblkf buhtnag`ltlfnktlrvlktncks nk crflr tc `cktrch tjl rlhngonhnty ca jgkfwgsjnke.

    Gpgrt arcb hccinke gt spl`nan` oljgvncr ca nkfnvnfugh wcrilrs, wl ghsc kllf tc `cksnflr tjl `cktlxt. Gkf

    wl jlgrf arcb _utjgkkl gocut tjl orcgflr `cktlxt ca `uhturl, sgalty `uhturl wntjnk tjl hgo, tjl `uhturl catjl gfbnknstrgtnck, ca tjl nkstntutnck tjgt bnejt g``rul tc sgalty. Nt turks cut tjgt ycu ghsc kllf tc blgsurl`uhturl nk crflr tc ukflrstgkf sgalty. Acr lxgbphl, `uttnke `crklrs, bgnkhy ful tc cregknzgtnckgh ag`tcrs.Nk tjns rlpcrt arcb tjl \.I., tjns ns hccinke gt ac`us ercups tjgt egtjlrlf ac`us ercups arcb @H0 hgos nktjl \.I. Gkf tjly acukf tnbl prlssurl, wcrihcgf, stgaanke hlvlhs, trgnknke, suplrvnsnck wlrl tjnkes tjgt`cktrnoutlf tc tjl fltrnblkt ca rlhngonhnty.

    Gkctjlr gspl`t ca `uhturl, wjn`j wgs, gegnk, tcu`jlf ck oy _utjgkkl, tjns ns g `jgrt sjcwnke tjl ercwtjnk lkvnrckblktgh jlghtj gkf sgalty rleuhgtncks ck uknvlrsnty `gbpusls oltwllk -- nk tjl ?4tj `lktury,jlgfnke nktc tjl lgrhy ?7st `lktury. Pc tjns envls ycu g slksl ca wjgt ycur lkvnrckblktgh jlghtj gkf sgalty plrsckklh grl rlspcksnohl acr. Gkf tjgt's gk -- tjns ns wjy tjly'rl "cvlrwcrilf" gkf wjy gffntnckghrlscur`ls bnejt ol kllflf nk crflr tc laal`tnvlhy `cktrch rlhngonhnty.

    Pc N'b ecnke tc jlgf nktc kcw scrt ca `ck`husncks gkf inkf ca hccinke acrwgrf wjlrl N tjnki wl cuejt tc -- wjlrl N tjnki wl cuejt tc ac`us. Arcb tjl plrspl`tnvl ca fgtg, na ycu'vl ect gpphls tc gpphls, ycu grlrlghhy ecnke tc ol nk g bu`j strckelr pcsntnck tc hcci gt sgalty quntl orcgfhy gkf, nk ag`t, sjgrlnkacrbgtnck g`rcss nkstntutncks. Pc, acr lxgbphl, na tjlrl wlrl rnecrcus kgtnckgh rlpcrtnke stgkfgrfs tjgtec olyckf tjl bcst sneknan`gkt gfvlrsl lvlkts, tjgt wcuhf ghhcw us tc scrt ca blgsurl tjl ag`tcrs tjgt bgy`cktrnoutl, hgtlkt ag`tcrs acr lxgbphl tjgt bgy `cktrnoutl tc sneknan`gkt gfvlrsl lvlkts cr plrjgps tc tjlsgalty ̀ uhturl gt vgrncus nkstntutncks.

    @chhl`tnke klgr bnssls ca `cursl ns quntl nbpcrtgkt. Vjnki ca tjl ouhi ca tjl n`lolre, wjn`j ns `ckstntutlf oy tjnkes hnil klgr bnssls. Pcbl typls ca lvlkts -- ca `cursl, tjlsl gfvlrsl lvlkts tjgt wl'rl tjnkinkegocut tcfgy grl quntl rgrl, sc olnke gohl tc `cbpgrl g`rcss nkstntutncks gkf egtjlr fgtg g`rcss nkstntutncks N

    tjnki wcuhf ol jlhpauh gkf ghhcw elklrghnzgtnck.

    Ghsc, hccinke acrwgrf, N tjnki nt's nbpcrtgkt tc scrt ca tjnki gocut tjl elklrgh `cktlxt, olyckf tjl sgaltyqulstncks tjgt wl'rl flghnke wntj tcfgy. Ul hnvl nk gk lkvnrckblkt nk wjn`j scpjnstn`gtlf gkghytn`s gkfghecrntjbs grl uslf tc ukflrstgkf kct must tl`jkchcey out jcw jubgk olnkes nktlrg`t wntj tl`jkchcey, crcregknzgtncks cr jubgk oljgvncr nk tjl `cktlxt ca `cbphlx cregknzgtncks. N tjnki g rlghhy eccf lxgbphl nstjgt ca elcergpjn` pchn`nke, wjlrl wl `chhl`t fgtg ck -- flplkfnke ck tjl snzl ca tjl pchn`l flpgrtblkt --jukfrlfs ca tjcusgkfs cr bnhhncks ca nktlrg`tncks oltwllk `ntnzlks gkf tjl pchn`l.

    Ul bgy ghsc `chhl`t nkacrbgtnck ck klnejocrjccf jnstcrnls. Ul hcci gt tjl wlgtjlr. Ul hcci gt prnsckrlhlgsl stgtnstn`s, gkf tjl pchn`l flpgrtblkt ns gohl tc hcci g`rcss g `nty gkf sgy, "Cigy, ycu ikcw wjgt, Ntjnki wl'rl ecnke tc jgvl jct spcts nk klnejocrjccfs Z, ^, gkf ] tcfgy. Pc N tjnki wl'rl ecnke tc flphcy

    rlscur`ls tjlrl." Vjns ns g wlhh-lstgohnsjlf gpprcg`j tjgt's laal`tnvl nk rlfu`nke `rnbl.

    Ul'rl ghsc hccinke gt tjl lblrelk`l ca usnke tjlsl scrts ca fgtg tc prlfn`t wjlk nkfnvnfugh pchn`l caan`lrsbnejt ankf tjlbslhvls nk gk gfvlrsl lvlkt wntj lxtrlbl cut`cbls, gkf flphcynke trgnknke cr nktlrvlktnckrlscur`ls gpprcprngtlhy. N `gk nbgenkl g tnbl wjlrl na wl jgvl eccf fgtg g`rcss g hgrel kubolr cankstntutncks, wl bnejt ol gohl tc -- gkf, acr lxgbphl, `cksnflrnke, ca `cursl, stgkfgrfnzlf fgtg g`rcssnkstntutncks -- wl bnejt ol gohl tc stgrt tc nflktnay jct spcts. Ujgt grl tjl inkfs ca wcri wjlrl trgnknkewcuhf ol bcst laal`tnvl rnejt kcw, envlk tjl hnbntlf rlscur`ls wl jgvl gvgnhgohl3 N tjnki wl cuejt tc oltjnkinke nk tlrbs ca wjgt tjl stufy ca lrrcr bnejt ghhcw us tc fc tlk tc ?4 ylgrs arcb kcw. N tjnki tjns ns g

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    fnstnk`t pcssnonhnty. Kcw, olnke gohl tc nflktnay tjl pctlktngh gfvlrsl lvlkts olacrl tjly c``ur wcuhf kctckhy jlhp tc rlfu`l rnsi out ghsc pctlktnghhy jlhp tc nk`rlgsl prcfu`tnvnty.

    N wgkt tc put acrwgrf tjl lxgbphl ca tjl Eccehl @gr gs scrt ca g bcflh, g `ck`lptugh bcflh, tc tjnkigocut. Gt tjl vlry olenkknke ca tjl tghi N jgf g shnfl tjgt scrt ca pcnktlf tc jubgk ag`tcrs wjlrl nt hccilfgt tjl ag`t tjgt jubgk olnkes `cktrnoutl -- jubgk lrrcrs grl `cktrnoutnke `gusls tc gocut >

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    Tgrtnsgk puohn`s tjgt jgvl lblrelf nk `ckvlrsgtnck wntj rlegrf tc egnk ca auk`tnck rlslgr`j ca `ck`lrk,ycu ikcw, tjl nkntngh `ckvlrsgtnck nkvchvnke bn`rconchcensts gkf ahu rlslgr`jlrs nk pgrtn`uhgr, tjl flsnrlacr scrt ca orcgflknke tjl tlkt gkf ornkenke nk g vgrnlty ca prcalssncks, s`nlk`l wrntl hgrel, gkf tjlkfnaalrlkt fns`nphnkls su`j gs blfn`nkl gkf puohn` jlghtj.

    Gkctjlr one flsnek nssul, ck`l ycu fl`nfl wjc tjns puohn` ns cr slt ca puohn`s grl, ns wjgt ns nt tjgt ycu

    wgkt tjlb tc fc3 Vjlrl grl g hct ca hlentnbgtl, tjcuej vlry fnstnk`t, gnbs. N'b must ecnke tc ac`us ck twc.Ckl ns nkkcvgtnck, tjl ctjlr ns flbc`rgtn` g``cuktgonhnty. ^cu `gk ornke plcphl tceltjlr nk tjl slksl tjgtwjgt ycu wgkt grl tjcsl rn`j ukprlfn`tgohl nksnejts tjgt `cbl arcb `rcwfscur`nke g prcohlb9 rnejt3 Crycu bnejt ol nktlrlstlf nk flbc`rgtn` g``cuktgonhnty wjlrl ycu wgkt tc og`i up g pchn`y fl`nsnck wntjtjl greublkt tjgt tjlrl jgs ollk orcgf rlprlslktgtnck flbckstrgtlf nk `cbnke tc tjgt `ck`husnck. Ujgtgrl tjl flsnrls tjgt N'vl gt hlgst pn`ilf up arcb tjl fns`cursl nk egnk ca auk`tnck rlslgr`j ca `ck`lrk ns tjgttjlrl's gk nktlrlst nk fnvlrsnty, oghgk`l, `nvnhnty, g``cuktgonhnty, gkf ghsc `cbnke og`i tc tjns nssul ca plcphl's `ckslkt.

    Gkctjlr one flsnek nssul ns ck`l ycu'vl pn`ilf ycur puohn` cr puohn`s, ycu jgvl g purpcsl nk bnkf, wjgt prc`lss fc ycu -- wjgt prc`lss lkgohls tjlb tc auhanhh tjgt ecgh cr tjgt purpcsl. N tjnki, gt tjns pcnkt, nt'sjlhpauh tc scrt ca hgy cut -- nt's g vlry snbphnstn` out vlry jlhpauh `cktnkuub ca puohn` pgrtn`npgtnck nk tjl

     pchn`y-bginke prc`lss. Gt ckl lkf, ycu jgvl `cbbukn`gtnck, wjn`j ns ogsn`ghhy acr ogsn` bgttlrs catrgkspgrlk`y. Vjns ns tjl nssuls wl'rl gffrlssnke. Jlrl's scbl og`iercukf ck tjl nssuls. Vjns ns wjgtwl'rl fcnke gocut nt. Vjcsl grl pusjnke cut ckl-wgy nkacrbgtnck. Vjl `cksuhtgtnck ca tjl puohn`, wjn`j nstc ornke nk -- lhn`nt cpnkncks, vnlws, plrspl`tnvls, gkf jgvl tjgt gs gk nkput nktc tjl hgrelr pchn`y-bginke prc`lss. Gkf tjlk g tjnrf cptnck ns tjns bcrl nktlksl `chhgocrgtnvl, flhnolrgtnvl gpprcg`j, wjlrl tjlrl's gklx`jgkel ca nflgs gkf g sjgrlf rlspcksnonhnty acr bginke gkf lxl`utnke pchn`y fl`nsncks.

    Pc, must `ck`rltlhy, jcw jgvl tjlsl fnaalrlkt pcnkts ck tjl `cktnkuub phgylf cut nk tjl ECA fns`ussnck3Ulhh, nk tlrbs ca `cbbukn`gtnck, wl'vl ect tjl prlss rlhlgsls su`j gs tjl KNJ aukfnke bcrgtcrnubstgtlblkt. Ul'vl ect tjl wlosntls put cut oy KPGOO gkf KGP, gkf sc ck gkf sc ck. Ul jgvl`cksuhtgtnck, tjgt lhn`ntgtnck ca nkput, vns-ä-vns acrbgh bl`jgknsbs acr puohn` `cbblkts frgat KPGOOrl`cbblkfgtncks. Gkf tjlk, nk tlrbs ca `chhgocrgtnck, tjl flhnolrgtnvl cptnck jgs ollk agnrhy bnknbgh

    wntj rlegrf tc gaal`tlf gkf purl puohn`, sc tc splgi. Gkf, g`tughhy, tjl `chhgocrgtnvl flhnolrgtnvl gpprcg`jjgs ollk bcrl nk tjl rlghb ca pgrtnsgk puohn`s.

    Pc tjl hgst flsnek qulstnck ns, wlhh, cigy, ycu ect ycur puohn`, ycur purpcsl, tjl prcohlb gkf prc`lssycu'f hnil tc usl9 wjgt ns nt tjgt -- wjgt ns tjl nssul3 Vjlrl jgvl ollk prcpcsghs, out tjlrl grl vlry pgrtn`uhgr inkfs ca qulstncks tjgt grl wlhh-suntlf tc g puohn` flhnolrgtnvl prc`lss. Vjlrl's tjns `ckahǹ tnkevghuls gocut tjl puohn` eccf, ycu ikcw, tjl Gpphl AON stgkfcaa gocut sl`urnty vlrsus prnvg`y nk tjl pjckl nssul. @cktrcvlrsngh gkf fnvnsnvl tcpn`s wjlrl cut`cbls grl plr`lnvlf tc prcfu`l wnkklrs gkfhcslrs -- tjns ns catlktnbls rlscur`l ghhc`gtnck, rnejt, wjcsl rlslgr`j elts aukflf gkf wjcsl fcls kct.Jyornf tcpn`s wjlrl tl`jkn`gh gkf kcrbgtnvl gspl`ts grl nktlrwcvlk9 gkf tjlk hcw trust nk wjn`j tjlecvlrkblkt gkf/cr s`nlktnan` `cbbuknty `gk lgrk, rltgnk, cr hcsl tjl puohn`'s trust.

    Pc, arcb wjgt N fns`lrk, tjlrl grl g alw qulstncks tjgt g`tughhy ant tjcsl inkfs ca prcanhls. \kflr`ckahn`tnke vghuls N'vl sllk nt pjrgslf gs nk tlrbs ca "flspntl pctlktngh `cktrnoutncks tc puohn` jlghtj,sjcuhf stufnls tjgt prcfu`l g pgtjcelk ca pgkflbn` pctlktngh ol plracrblf gt ghh3" Gk lxgbphl ca gjyornf tcpn` cr g hcw trust nssul ns, na gky, wjgt gfflf stlps sjcuhf trustll nkstntutncks, su`j gs \.P.ecvlrkblkt gkf rlslgr`j lktntnls, tgil tc strlketjlk oncsgalty gkf oncsl`urnty rlenbls, gkf ghscstrlketjlk puohn` `ckanflk`l nk tjlb3 Vwc vlry fnaalrlkt qulstncks, sc tjl qulstnck ycu pn`i rlghhybgttlrs.

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    Pc hlt's bcvl gwgy arcb tjl one flsnek qulstncks tc bcrl scrt ca prg`tn`gh cplrgtnckgh nssuls. Vjlrl ns kcsnkehl bltjcfchcey acr puohn` flhnolrgtnck, must vlry `ck`rltlhy g rlvnlw ca gocut ?4 ylgrs„ wcrtj ca puohn` flhnolrgtnck nk tjl rlghb ca puohn` jlghtj gkf jlghtj pchn`y, gkf gocut 1? lvlkts nk tjns rlvnlw cawjgt's ecnke ck cut nk tjl anlhf. Vjlrl wlrl tlk fnstnk`t bltjcfs olnke uslf, rnejt, nk`hufnke `ntnzlk murnls.

    Ujy ns tjlrl su`j fnvlrsnty3 Ulhh, tjlrl's kc, tc ol jcklst, kc sltthlf g``cukt ca wjgt `ckstntutls puohn`flhnolrgtnck gkf nkalrncr prg`tn`l. N blgk, lvlry nssul jgs nts kugk`ls, nts pgrtn`uhgr pgrtnsgk puohn`s, gkfsc ck. Gkf tjlk, ca `cursl, tjlrl grl rlgh wcrhf hnbnts ca bckly, hcenstn`s, gkf pchntn`s. Vjlrl ns, jcwlvlr,`ckslksus grcukf wjgt grl tjl bnknbub stgkfgrfs acr puohn` flhnolrgtnck, gkf tjly ac`us ck nk`husnvntygkf fnvlrsnty9 rnejt3 ̂ cu wgkt tc ̀ cbplksgtl acr tjl fnsprcpcrtnckgtl pgrtn`npgtnck oy prnvnhlelf ̀ hgsslsca plcphl. Gkf ycu'rl trynke tc uk`cvlr tjgt orcgf rgkel ca vnlws gkf plrspl`tnvls gkf `ckahn`tnkenktlrlst. ^cu wgkt tc bgil surl tjgt tjlrl's ag`tugh oghgk`lf nkacrbgtnck envlk tc pgrtn`npgkts sc tjgt tjly`gk rlghhy ergpphl wntj tjl nssul gt jgkf. Gkf ycu wgkt tc prcvnfl tjgt cppcrtuknty acr rlahl`tnck gkffns`ussnck -- g arll fns`ussnck ca g wnfl spl`trub ca vnlwpcnkts, tlstnke bcrgh `hgnbs, gkf tjl pctlktnghacr plcphl tc `jgkel tjlnr bnkfs ogslf ck tjl greublkts prlslktlf nk rgtnckghl.

    Nk tjl nktlrlst ca tnbl, N fck't wgkt tc ec nktc tjl kntty-erntty nk wjn`j tjlsl stgkfgrfs grl gpphnlf, out must

    tc puhh cut g alw qulstncks. \kflr tjl nk`husnvnty gkf fnvlrsnty stgkfgrf gkf g`tnck, ycu jgvl tc gsiycurslha wjcsl nktlrlsts grl rlprlslktlf nk tjl flhnolrgtnvl lxlr`nsl tjgt ycu jgvl `ckstru`tlf. Ujc eltstc rlprlslkt tjcsl nktlrlsts3 Jcw grl tjcsl plcphl `jcslk -- rgkfcbhy, purpcsnvlhy, ns nt g anrst-`cbl,anrst-slrvlf, ns nt cplk tc ghh3 Lg`j ca tjcsl jgs vlry `ck`rltl nbphn`gtncks, gs wlhh gs pjnhcscpjn`gh ckls.

    Gkf ghsc, wjgt `ck`rltl lvnflk`l `gk tjl cregknzlrs flbckstrgtl tc bgil `hgnbs tc nk`husnvnty gkffnvlrsnty3 Vjlrl's tjl nkacrbgtnck prcvnsnck. Ul tghilf lgrhnlr gocut tjl slhl`tnck ca gk nssul, out jcw fcycu g`tughhy tgil g `cbphlx nssul, hnil egnk ca auk`tnck rlslgr`j ca `ck`lrk, gkf prcfu`l og`iercukfnkacrbgtnck tjgt splgis tc tjl ag`ts ca tjl bgttlr, sc tc splgi, gs wlhh gs tjl fnaalrlkt pcsntncks tjgt grl nk phgy3 Gkf grl cregknzlrs ecnke tc hgy cut pchn`y cptncks, g ankntl slt ca pchn`y cptncks acr plcphl tc`cksnflr cr grl tjl flhnolrgkts ecnke tc ol ghhcwlf tc ol ahlxnohl gkf arll tc flvlhcp tjlnr cwk slt ca pchn`y cptncks, sc tc splgi3 Gkf tjlk, ca `cursl, jcw fcls ckl bgkgel tjl nkml`tnck ca tjl tl`jkn`gh

    nkacrbgtnck3

    Qghul-ogslf rlgscknke9 jcw ns nt tjgt ycu ounhf g prc`lss arcb g sc`ngh fykgbn`s pcnkt ca vnlw tjgt's kck-`clr`lf, tjgt ghhcws rlspl`tauh rlahl`tnck ck prlalrlk`ls, vghuls, gkf `ck`lpts3 Grl ycu envnke lkcuej plcphl tnbl gkf spg`l tc hlgrk tjl nssul, g``hnbgtl tc tjl prc`lss, gkf tjlk tc flhnolrgtl nt3 Gkf tjlk jcwns tjgt nkput trgkshgtlf, nktlrprltlf, gkf pg`igelf acr usl oy tjl pchn`ybgilr3 Vjlsl grl ghh vlry `ck`rltllhlblkts ca puohn` flhnolrgtnck.

    Nt's nbpcrtgkt tc ghsc ikcw tjgt, wjnhl tjlrl ns kc snkehl bltjcfchcey, tjlrl grl bgrilrs ca qughntyflhnolrgtncks tjgt grl cut tjlrl gkf olnke uslf nk tjl anlhf. Arcb g prc`lfurgh pcnkt ca vnlw, jcw eccf nsycur nkacrbgtnck. Ns nt `cbprljlksnvl3 Ns nt oghgk`lf3 Ns nt g``lssnohl3 Jcw eccf grl ycur flhnolrgtncksarcb g sc`ngh fykgbn`s pcnkt ca vnlw3 Gkf ycu `gk blgsurl tjgt nk pcst-flhnolrgtnvl survlys. Fnf ycu

    `jgkel ycur bnkf gatlr wjgt ycu jlgrf3 Fnf ycu allh hnil ycur vcn`l wgs jlgrf3 Fc ycu allh tjgt ghh tjlvcn`ls tjgt ycu kllflf tc jlgr wlrl gt tjl tgohl3 ^cu `gk survly tjgt nk tlrbs ca qughnty.

    Vjlk, ca `cursl, tjlrl's nssuls ca nbpg`t9 rnejt3 Fnf nt nkahulk`l pchn`y3 Fnf nt nkahulk`l tjl hlvlh ca`cbpltlk`l g pchn`ybgilr jgs nk jns cr jlr slksl tjgt jl cr sjl jgs bgfl g bcrl nkacrblf fl`nsnck ol`gusl tjly jgf tjl puohn` flhnolrgtnvl nkput3 Gkf tjlk, arcb g pgrtn`npgkt pcnkt ca vnlw, wjgt ns tjlnrhlvlh ca `ckanflk`l nk tjl hlentnbg`y ca g pchn`y fl`nsnck3

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    Pc hlt's tnl tjns og`i. N wgkt tc `hcsl fcwk kcw wntj scbl vlry `ck`rltl, spl`nan` tjnkes tjgt N tjnkisjcuhf ol `cksnflrlf gt tjns pcnkt, tjgt rlhgtls tc puohn` flhnolrgtnck. Vjns ns by gsslssblkt ca wjlrl wlgrl nk tjl prc`lss. Ul jgvl tjl acrbgh nkstntutncks ca KPGOO gkf KGP olnke tjl prncrnty vlkuls acr puohn` nkput. Ul'vl ect blltnkes nk wjn`j tjlrl's ollk g hgrel rlprlslktgtnck ca vlry kl`lssgry pgrtnsgk puohn`s, ful tc tjl `cbphlxnty ca tjns nssul. Vjlrl ns g strcke flsnrl tc prctl`t tjl puohn` wlhh-olnke, gkftjgt bctnvgtls ghh cpnkncks nk tjns `ckvlrsgtnck. Out N wcuhf greul tjgt tjl vcn`ls ca g purl gkf/cr gaal`tlf

     puohn` jgvl ollk hgrelhy goslkt. Pc tjl ukrlschvlf nssul ns wnhh tjlrl cr sjcuhf tjlrl ol bcrlscpjnstn`gtlf rlscur`l nktlksnvl flhnolrgtnvl slssncks cutsnfl tjl prlslkt ̀ nr`hl ca vlstlf pgrtnls3

    Pc, scbl tjrll `ck`rltl sueelstncks tc ol `cksnflrlf ns sjcuhf tjlrl ol g acrbgh lvghugtnck ca tjl `urrlktflhnolrgtnvl prc`lss tjgt's ollk lkgohlf oy tjl acrbgh stru`turls ca KGP gkf KPGOO3 Jcw wcuhf tjlflhnolrgkts tjlbslhvls, bcsthy pgrtnsgk puohn`s, rgtl tjl prc`lss nk tlrbs ca nk`husnvnty, nkacrbgtnck prcvnsnck, gkf suppcrt acr vghul-ogslf rlgscknke3 N tjnki tjl olklants ca tjns acrbgh lvghugtnck nk`huflstrlketjlknke tjl lvnflk`l ogsl wntj wjn`j plcphl `gk mufel tjl hlentnbg`y ca tjl pchn`y-bginke prc`lsstc-fgtl. Gkf nt's `lrtgnkhy prcvnfls vlry uslauh fgtg na tjlrl sjcuhf ol phgks acr gky gffntnckgh flhnolrgtnvlg`tnvnty.

    Gkctjlr `ck`rltl wgy tc ec, wjn`j `cksnflrs bcrl tjl nssul ca gaal`tlf puohn`s nk flhnolrgtnck tjgt

    nkvchvls tjlb, ns pctlktnghhy jchfnke flhnolrgtnvl lxlr`nsls nk `cbbukntnls kcw jcstnke ag`nhntnls tjgt jcstjnej `cktgnkblkt ag`nhntnls. ^ls, wl'rl tghinke gocut g hcw prcogonhnty, jnej `ckslqulk`l typl ca rnsi, outwl'rl ghsc tghinke gocut g vlry `ck`rltl phg`l-ogslf g`tnvnty. Hgos, nkstntutncks, tjlrl grl jcst`cbbukntnls tjgt, sjcuhf tjlrl ol gk nssul, lntjlr wntjnk gk nkal`tlf wcrilr cr hc`gh cutorlgi, tjlrl grlrlspcksl nkstntutncks nk phg`l. Pc N tjnki tjgt ckl `gk ornke nk tjgt typl ca `ckvlrsgtnck wntj g slt cagaal`tlf puohn`s. ^cu `cuhf gsi tjlb jcw sjcuhf wl strlketjlk cur prctl`tnck rlenbls, jcw fc wlstrlketjlk puohn` `ckanflk`l nk tjlb3 Cr ycu `gk gsi sjcuhf tjlsl typls ca lxplrnblkts ol fckl nk tjlanrst phg`l. ^cu ect tc bgil g `jcn`l, tjcuej, gocut wjgt qulstnck ycu'rl gsinke.

    Gkf tc `ck`hufl wntj g purl/gaal`tlf puohn`„s nssul, nt ns greugohy olklan`ngh tc lkegel g `rcss sl`tnck catjl Gblrn`gk puohn` nk g flhnolrgtnvl lxlr`nsl, sgy flhnolrgtnvl pchhnke cr `ntnzlk mury, gocut spl`nan`qulstncks. Nt `cuhf ol ca tjl rlscur`l ghhc`gtnck kgturl. Pjcuhf cur hnbntlf rlslgr`j fchhgrs ec jlrl cr cur

    hnbntlf ahu prlpgrlfklss fchhgrs ec jlrl cr tjlrl3 Pjcuhf tjlsl lxplrnblkts ca `ck`lrk ol fckl gt ghh3 Ntjnki tjgt tjlsl tjrll `ck`rltl sueelstncks, na tjlrl wlrl g`tnvnty nk ckl cr bcrl ca tjlsl, `lrtgnkhy jlrl nktjl \.P. -- gkf N jgvl kct tcu`jlf ck tjl nktlrkgtnckgh fcbgnk gt ghh, cigy, nt's g vlry `cbphn`gtlf nssul --`lrtgnkhy na tjlrl wlrl `ck`rltl prc`lssls tjgt wlrl lkegelf wntjnk tjl \.P. slttnke, nt wcuhf prcvnfl g pcnkt ca `cbpgrnsck acr ctjlr `cuktrnls gkf `cuhf ol pgrt ca g jgrbcknzgtnck lkflgvcr. Pc, wntj tjgt, N'hh`ck`hufl. Gkf tjgki ycu vlry bu`j.

    Ans`jjcaa= Vjgki ycu. Pc, g `cuphl ca pcnkts. N lk`curgel plcphl tc `cbl tc tjl bn`s. Gs Jgrvly jgs sgnf,tjns ns g wcrisjcp. Ul'rl kct prcvnfnke rl`cbblkfgtncks, out gkyocfy `gk caalr rl`cbblkfgtncks, gkftjly wnhh ec nktc cur rlpcrt. Gkf wl lk`curgel cur pgklhnsts tc caalr rl`cbblkfgtncks ogslf ck tjlnr cwk prcalssnckgh lxplrnlk`l gkf rlslgr`j. N wcuhf sgy acr tjcsl ca ycu wjc grl kct agbnhngr wntj tjl sc`ngh, oljgvncrgh, gkf fl`nsnck s̀ nlk`ls, tjns wnhh envl ycu scbl nflg ca tjl scrt ca orlgftj gkf flptj ca tjl

    rlslgr`j tjgt's cut tjlrl na ckl wgktlf tc put tjl jubgk gspl`t ca tjns lktlrprnsl ck g s`nlktnan` acukfgtncktjgt sjcws ycu tjl bnx ca bltjcfs tjgt wl ghh usl. Vjlrl's tjlcry. Vjlrl grl buhtnphl bltjcfs cacoslrvgtnck= fnrl`t coslrvgtnck, hgocrgtcry gkf anlhf lxplrnblkts, trgfntnckgh stgtnstn`gh gkghysns gkf fgtg,gkf fgtg bnknke.

    Ckl ca tjl tjnkes tjgt's scrt ca scblwjgt gtypn`gh ca tjl sc`ngh, oljgvncrgh, gkf fl`nsnck s`nlk`ls, gkfbgy ol ckl ca tjl rlgscks wjy scbl plcphl grl rlhu`tgkt tc ec tjlrl, ns tjgt tjl ogsn` fns`nphnkls catlktlkf tc cplrgtl nk stcvlpnpls gkf jgvl scrt ca schl prcprnltcrsjnp na scblocfy's rlghhy tnlf nktc tjlnr stcry.Ujgt's fnaalrlkt nk tjl tghis tjgt ycu jlgrf jlrl gkf plcphl hnil curslhvls, wjc grl frgwk tc tjlsl

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    `cbphlx prcohlbs, ns tjgt tjl `cbbntblkt tc tjl prcohlb lkgohls us tc tghi tc ckl gkctjlr gkf usl cklgkctjlr's bltjcfs. Pc na ycu'vl ollk fns`curgelf nk tjl pgst, ycu jgvl plcphl hnil tjns tc jlhp ycu nk tjlauturl.

    Pc ycu'vl jgf `cbbukn`gtnck9 tnbl acr `cksuhtgtnck, gkf bgyol nt wnhh hlgf tc `chhgocrgtnck. Gkf hlt bl pgrtn`uhgrhy lk`curgel -- hlt bl sll na N ect tjns rnejt -- lk`curgel fnvlrsl vnlws. Pc na ycur vcǹ l jgsk't

     ollk jlgrf, ckhy na nt's sgnf vlroghhy, na nt's sgnf cut hcuf wnhh nt bgil nts wgy nktc tjl rlpcrt. Pc na ycu'vl must ollk lx`jgkenke tjnkes wntj ycur arnlkfs, phlgsl `cbl tc tjl bn`. Thlgsl.

    Igvntg Olrelr, Erypjck P`nlktnan`= N jgvl twc qulstncks acr tjl splgilrs. Pc tjl anrst qulstnck ns tjgtslvlrgh splgilrs gkf `cbblktgtcrs jgvl sueelstlf g `cbprljlksnvl rlpcrtnke systlb acr jubgk lrrcrs, out tjns rgnsls g hct ca qulstncks gocut jcw tc lksurl tjgt nkstntutncks fc kct jgvl scrt ca -- tjgt tjns `gk olfckl nk g kck-pukntnvl wgy9 gkf sc wjgt grl ycur sueelstncks tc prcbctnke kck-pukntnvl gpprcg`jls oytjl pchntn`gh gkf rleuhgtcry systlb gs wlhh gs oy tjl puohn` tc lk`curgel, ycu ikcw, tjns `cbprljlksnvlrlpcrtnke3

    Gkf tjlk tjl sl`ckf qulstnck ns g hntthl ont fnaalrlkt. N'b kct surl na ycu jgvl tcu`jlf ck nt cr wjltjlr nt'slvlk gpprcprngtl acr tjns pgrtn`uhgr pgklh. Out, g`tughhy, nt's g qulstnck gocut jubgk lrrcrs acr sl`urnty gkf

    kct sgalty. Pc, quntl g ont ca wcri jgs ollk fckl nk oljgvncrgh tjrlgt gsslssblkts gkf tjrlgt gsslssblkts, out tjlrl's quntl g ont tjgt nkstntutncks `gk fc vlry agr upstrlgb. Gkf sc wjgt grl ycur sueelstncks acrgffrlssnke tjl pctlktngh ukflrhynke ag`tcrs tjgt bnejt `cktrnoutl tc scblckl lntjlr stlghnke gk gelkt crgknbghs, cr vgkfghnsb, vnchlk`l, flhnolrgtl bnsusl, lt`.3 Vjgki ycu.

    Jukthly-Alkklr= Hlt's sll. Pc, ckl pcssnohl -- rlegrfnke tjl anrst qulstnck, N wgs jgvnke g `ckvlrsgtncklgrhnlr tcfgy. N tjnki ckl tjnke ycu bnejt fc ns `jgkel tjl jlgfnke ck tjl pgplrwcri sc tjgt tjlat gkf hcssgrlk't tjl scrt ca `gtlecrnls ukflr wjn`j tjl rlpcrtnke ns bgfl, rnejt3 Pc tjlrl grl scbl vlry snbphltjnkes ycu `gk fc. Out N ghsc tjnki tjgt tjlrl jgs tc ol scbl inkf ca envl gkf tgil. Pc na ycu'rl mustslkfnke fgtg cut tjlrl tjgt elts rl`crflf oy scbl ourlgu`rgt wjc wnhh, gt scbl ukikcwk tnbl nk tjlauturl, `cbl wjg`i ycu cvlr tjl jlgf wntj nt, tjgt's g prcohlb. Out na ycu'rl jlhpnke tc `ckstru`t g bcflhtjgt ycu `gk usl tc olttlr bgkgel ycur sgalty gkf ycu ikcw tjgt wl'rl ecnke tc elt scbl nktlrlstnke

    gkghysls gkf gkghytn`s og`i tjgt wnhh jlhp us. Vjgt bgy ol gkctjlr tjnke ycu `gk fc gs wlhh.

    _legrfnke tjl sl`ckf qulstnck, N'b kct surl ca tjl gkswlr tc tjgt qulstnck. Nt's g erlgt qulstnck. Nt'sscbltjnke tjgt kllfs tc ol stufnlf.

    Ans`jjcaa= ^cu wgkt tc gff scbltjnke3

    Junsnke= Must qun`ihy tc gff, tjl @gkgfngk ecvlrkblkt jgs must nbphlblktlf g systlb acr rlpcrtnke, gkgtnckgh rlpcrtnke systlb, gkf nt pn`is up lxg`thy wjgt ycu'rl sgynke. Vjlrl grl kublrcus nssuls grcukf prnvg`y, grcukf olnke hngohl, gkf sc ghh ca tjgt jgf tc ol scrtlf cut sc tjgt plcphl ukflrstccf nt wgs g kck- pukntnvl systlb tjgt ghsc nktlrg`tlf wlhh wntj wcriphg`l sgalty systlbs, hlegh gkf sc ck. Out `lrtgnkhy cklca tjl prcbnsls ns tjgt tjl fgtg, tjl ankfnkes wcuhf ol alf og`i tc nbprcvl sgalty prcergbs.

    Ans`jjcaa= Vjgki ycu. Thlgsl.

    Pusgk Ucha= N'b g blbolr ca KPGOO, out, ca `cursl, splgi ckhy acr byslha rnejt kcw. N jgvl twcspl`nan` qulstncks wjlrl N gb ecnke tc gsi ycur gfvn`l fnrl`thy acr tjns rlpcrt. Vjl anrst qulstnck jgs tc fcwntj fgtg `chhl`tnck, fgtg stgkfgrfs, gkf tjl lrl`tnck ca fgtg `chhl`tnck systlbs. Gkf N'b nkvntnke ycurgfvn`l ck wjgt wl sjcuhf sgy gocut tjgt. nt `cbls up kct must nk rl`cbblkfgtnck acr, gs ycu sgw, outtjrcuejcut, nk`hufnke rl`cbblkfgtnck tc wjlrl tjl `urrlkt frgat tghis gocut tjl gflqug`y acr scbl

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     pgtjcelks ca `urrlkt cvlrsnejt systlbs na gpprcprngtlhy laal`tugtlf -- gkf N'b kct quctnke fnrl`thy, outtjgt's tjl enst ca rl`cbblkfgtnck twc. Vjgt "na" sueelsts tjl kl`lssnty ca gk lvghugtnvl prc`lss.

    N'b ghsc tjnkinke gocut scbl gkghcenls tjgt ghrlgfy lxnst, rcuej gkghcenls hnil tjl _G@'s `rlgtnck ca tjlElkltn` Bcfnan`gtnck @hnkn`gh _lslgr`j Nkacrbgtnck Pystlb acr elkl trgksalr rlslgr`j, tjl `rlgtnck cafgtg `chhl`tnck trgkspgrlk`y systlbs. Pc tjns ns, ycu ikcw, KPGOO acrbuhgtnke rl`cbblkfgtncks tc tjl

    alflrgh ecvlrkblkt, kct splginke tc g`gflbn`s, tjcuej, ca `cursl, tjlrl grl buhtnphl gufnlk`ls acr tjns.Pc ycur tjcuejts gocut wjgt KPGOO bnejt rl`cbblkf ol `rlgtlf. Vjgt's qulstnck ckl.

    Wulstnck twc, Bckn`g, ecls tc wjgt ycu sgnf. Pc ycu wlrl tghinke gocut puohn` flhnolrgtnck, out tjlrl'sgkctjlr ag`l ca tjgt tjgt ycu fnfk't jgvl gk cppcrtuknty tc tcu`j ck -- gkf, ca `cursl, gky ca tjl ctjlr pgklhnsts gs wlhh -- wjǹ j ns wjltjlr tjlrl's g kllf acr g Alflrgh Gfvnscry @cbbnttll G`t lktnty, g AG@G`cbbnttll, nk tjl hccp ca alflrgh `cksnflrgtnck ca ECA_C@. Pc tjns ns g qulstnck tjgt Pgb blktncklfylstlrfgy nk slttnke up tjl anvl qulstncks ck wjn`j wl pgrtn`uhgrhy wgktlf gfvn`l. Ilk l`jclf nt nk jnsrlbgris.

    Pc, na ycu tjnki gocut tjl ahcw`jgrt, wjn`j plrjgps ycu sgw gkf rl`chhl`t, wjn`j ns g frgat ca jcw tjns prc`lss bnejt wcri nkstntutnckgh gkf alflrgh, tjlrl wgs g hccp cut tc tjl rnejt na pctlktngh ECA_C@ wgs

    nflktnanlf. Gkf tjl qulstnck ns wjc's fcnke tjgt hccp3 Ujltjlr nt's must nktlrkgh tc tjl alflrgh ecvlrkblkt,wjn`j, ca `cursl, ns gk cptnck, cr wjltjlr, nk gffntnck -- gkf, gegnk, ca `cursl ycu `gk jlgr tjl l`jc plrjgps ca elkl trgksalr rlslgr`j gkf AFG phus _G@ -- cr wjltjlr tjlrl's, gffntnckghhy, g AG@G`cbbnttll. Pc na ycu bnejt ol gohl tc rlahl`t ck octj ca tjcsl qulstncks, N tjnki nt wcuhf ol lkcrbcushyjlhpauh.

    Ans`jjcaa= Ul'hh stgrt wntj Bckn`g.

    P`jc`j-Ppgkg= Purl. Envlk tjl `cbphlxnty ca tjl nssul, tjl kubolr ca nkstntutncks gkf nkfnvnfughs wjcsl prg`tn`l bgttlrs nk oncsgalty gkf oncsl`urnty, ycu jgvl tc jgvl g buhtnhgylrlf gpprcg`j, N tjnki kct must tcsgalty gkf sl`urnty arcb g tl`jkn`gh plrspl`tnvl out ghsc arcb g trgkspgrlk`y gkf puohn` lkegelblkt plrspl`tnvl. Untj rlegrf tc g AG@G-hnil lktnty, tjgt wcuhf tgil `grl ca ckl hlvlh, out N tjnki tjlrl grl

     pgrghhlh nkml`ts ca g wnfl fnvlrsnty ca plrspl`tnvls gkf cpnkncks ck wjgt `ckstntutls g sgal, sl`url, gkf`rlfnohl systlb wntj tjl puohn` sc tjgt tjlrl -- acr nkstgk`l, Fr. Arctjnkejgb's Fuil systlb.

    Fuil jgs `rlgtlf g systlb, rnejt, wntj nts NO@ gkf N_L, wjn`j nkvchvls g fnvlrsnty ca plrspl`tnvls,nk`hufnke blbolrs ca fnaalrlkt puohn`s, octj pgrtnsgk gkf gaal`tlf ckls. Pgbl tjnke wntj Pt. Mufl's. Pc Ntjnki wjgt ycu jgvl gs agr gs pctlktngh rl`cbblkfgtncks ns ckl jgs tc gssurl tjgt tjl systlb jgslkegelblkts -- puohn` lkegelblkt gkf trgkspgrlk`y gt ghh hlvlhs. G AG@G-hnil `cbbnttll wcuhf ol, Ntjnki, g olklan`ngh tjnke. Nt's kct tjl ckhy tjnke. N tjnki ckl jgs tc tjnki ca sjgrlf ecvlrkgk`l g`rcss ghhhlvlhs.

    Ucha= Gkf ck fgtg3

    P`jc`j-Ppgkg= Gkf fgtg.

    Jukthly-Alkklr= ^lgj, cigy. Ulhh, N'hh envl bgyol pgrt ca tjl gkswlr tc wjgt tc sgy gocut nt. N tjnki nt'snbpcrtgkt tc scrt ca argbl wjgt wl ikcw gkf wjgt wl fck't ikcw. Pc wl'vl sgnf tjgt wl bgy `cktnkultjns wcri. Cur lxpl`tgtnck ns tjgt wl'rl ecnke tc ol gohl tc fc nt tc g jnej flerll ca rlhngonhnty. Out curgonhnty tc `cktnkul tc gsslss gkf lksurl rlhngonhnty ns hnbntlf oy g hg`i ca fgtg ck tjl prnbgry `cktrnoutnkeag`tcr, wjn`j wcuhf ol jubgk lrrcr, jubgk rlhngonhntnls. Ul must fck't jgvl lkcuej ca gk nksnejt nktc tjgt.Vjlrlacrl, nk crflr acr us tc rlghhy gttgnk wjgt wl'rl prcbnsnke, wl jgvl tc snbuhtgklcushy put nk phg`l g

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    stru`turl nk crflr tc `chhl`t fgtg gkf prc`lssls oy wjn`j wl `gk g`tughhy `cktrch gkf pctlktngh rlfu`llrrcrs wjlk tjly c``ur.

    Ans`jjcaa= Hlt bl -- ukflr tjl tnbl `ckstrgnkt, hlt bl fc tjl -- hlt bl gsi lg`j plrsck tc envl ycurqulstnck -- try tc illp nt tc wntjnk g bnkutl, gkf tjlk wl'hh jgvl gocut g bnkutl acr lg`j ca cur pgklhnsts tcrlspckf. Envlk tjl stgkfgrf tjgt Jgrvly slt, N wnhh kct try tc syktjlsnzl ycur qulstncks. Pc, phlgsl.

    Bgeenl Icsgh arcb Elcreng Vl`j, Ag`uhty nk tjl Pgb Kukk P`jcch ca Nktlrkgtnckgh Gaagnrs= Gkf N'becnke tc gsi g spl`nan` qulstnck, out nt's spl`nan` ol`gusl N'b rlspckfnke tc tjl rlqulst acr spl`nan`nty. Gttjl sgbl tnbl, N'b `ck`lrklf tjgt nt bgy `cbl caa gs g hntthl ont bcrl pcnktlf. Pc, na nt fcls, nk wgktnke tcauhanhh cur kck-gfvlrsgrngh `uhturl, ohgbl tjl pcnktlfklss ck spl`nan`nty. Pc tjns coslrvgtnck tjgt nk`nflktsec up wntj tlkurl, anrst ca ghh, N'f hcvl tc sll tjl fgtg ck tjgt, gkf tjl `gusgh bl`jgknsb, ycu ikcw, wjyfcls tjgt jgpplk, gkf fcls nt jgpplk ol`gusl ca gffntnckgh gfbnknstrgtnvl ourflk, wjn`j wcuhf ol byanrst jypctjlsns3

    Gkf tjlk jcw fcls tjgt nktlrsl`t wntj tjl `ghh acr nk`rlgslf puohn` nkvchvlblkt3 Ns ckl bcrlgfbnknstrgtnvl ourflk ck ag`uhty suppcslf tc ol lfu`gtnke gk nhhntlrgtl puohn`3 Gkf, gegnk, N'b olnke pcnktlf ol`gusl wl'rl gsilf tc ol spl`nan`. ^cu ikcw, ns tjns gkctjlr ukaukflf bgkfgtl olnke put ck

    ag`uhty3 ^cu ikcw, sc N `cuhf ec ck, out N wgkt tc jnejhnejt g `cuphl ca ily pnl`ls tjlrl, tjgt wl'rltghinke gocut g bu`j orcgflr puohn` tjgt scbltnbls ns gfvlrsgrngh tc s`nlk`l gkf tl`jkchcey acr rlgsckstjgt jgvl kctjnke tc fc wntj tjl s`nlk`l gkf tl`jkchcey. Gkf `uhturl jgs g wjchl ouk`j ca pnl`ls tjgt ntbnejt ol l`ckcbn`s, gkf N hcvlf jcw ycu grtn`uhgtlf tjl l`ckcbn`s, nkstntutnckgh frnvlrs. Gkf wl jgvlk'tlvlk tghilf gocut slxnsb gkf rg`nsb tjgt gaal`ts `uhturgh oljgvncrs. Pc, tjgki ycu.

    Ans`jjcaa= Ul fnf sll twc n`lolres, sc. _l`cekntnck ca --

    Icsgh= Tlkeunks grl rlprlslktlf.

    Ans`jjcaa= _l`cekntnck ca tjl jnfflk prcohlbs. Vjgki ycu. N'f hnil tc jgvl lg`j plrsck splgi, gkf tjlkwl'hh envl cur pgklhnsts g `jgk`l tc --

    Pnhmg Qñkliy, Elrbgk Ltjn`s @cuk`nh, \knvlrsnty ca Arlnoure, gkf Jgrvgrf Hgw P`jcch Alhhcw gt tjlbcblkt. N jgvl twc sjcrt qulstncks. N hnilf ycur prcpcsgh, _utjgkkl, tjgt tjl `uhturl `jgkel jgs tc `cblarcb wntjnk tjl s`nlktnan` fns`nphnkl ol`gusl nt's g vlry scat gkf kck-nktlralrlk`l gpprcg`j. Ck tjl ctjlrjgkf, N tjnki tjl nk`lktnvl acr s`nlktnsts ns tc prcfu`l rlsuhts, ns tc fc s`nlk`l, tc wrntl grtn`hls, gkftjlrlacrl N tjnki jcw `gk tjl `jgkel `cbl arcb wntjnk s`nlk`l na tjlrl grl kc cutsnfl nk`lktnvls acrsgalty gkf sl`urnty3 Vjns wcuhf ol by anrst qulstnck. Vjl sl`ckf qulstnck wcuhf ol, jlrl nk tjl \.P.tjlrl's g hct ca tghi gocut kufenke, gkf by qulstnck wcuhf ol wjltjlr tjlrl `gk ol scbl scrt ca kufenketjl s`nlktnsts tc fc tjl s`nlk`l nk g sgal gkf sl`url wgy3

    Ans`jjcaa= Cigy, tjgki ycu. Cvlr jlrl.

    N'b Gkfy Inhngksin, Lfelwccf @jlbn`gh Onchcen`gh @lktlr. N'b gk K_@ Alhhcw wntj tjl \.P. Grby.Vjns ns must bgyol g sueelstnck. Pc, tghinke gocut tjl jubgk ag`tcrs rlslgr`j, gkf wl fck't jgvl g hct cafgtg gocut g``nflkts gkf jubgk lrrcrs wntjnk tjl hgocrgtcry slttnke. N tjnki tjl kck-aguht slha-rlpcrtnke nkjnej `cktgnkblkt hgos ns g prcohlbgtn` tjnke tc scrt ca lkacr`l gkf lkg`t, gkf `cbphngk`l wntj tjgt, Ntjnki, wcuhf ghsc ol `jghhlkenke. Pc N tjnki tjns ns gk cppcrtuknty acr KPGOO, wntj tjlnrrl`cbblkfgtncks, tc scrt ca tcu`j tjl orcgflr hnal s`nlk`l `cbbuknty gkf plrjgps sueelst tjgt wl kllftc aukf scbl stufnls hccinke gt `cjcrts ca ergf stuflkts nk OPH7 gkf ? spg`ls, gkf lvghugtl jcw tjlnrlrrcrs gaal`t tjlnr wcri gkf nktlergtl tjgt wntj tjlnr plracrbgk`l ck g fgnhy ogsns.

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    Ans`jjcaa= Cigy, tjgki ycu. Gfgb.

    Gfgb Ankilh arcb \knvlrsnty ca Tlkksyhvgkng. ^cu ikcw, scbltnbls wjlk tjnkes sllb tc ol ehgrnkehybnssnke, nt's ol`gusl tjly'rl tcc covncus. Out N tjnki nk tjl jubgk ag`tcrs, tjl anrst twc prlslktgtncks,tjlrl grl scbl tjnkes bnssnke tjgt N tjnki nt's nbpcrtgkt gkf tlhhnke tjgt tjly'rl bnssnke. Pc, ckl ca tjlb Nblktncklf ornlahy ylstlrfgy ns nkjlrlkt sgalty, flsneknke cut tjl `ckslqulk`ls ca jubgk lrrcr. Gkf,

    gegnk, by vgeul slksl ns tjgt tjgt's kct `cbl tc tjl hgocrgtcry slttnke tjl wgy nt jgs `cbl tc tjl jlghtj`grl pgtnlkt `grl slttnke.

    Pl`ckf ns N fnfk't jlgr gky blktnck ca pgrt ca tjl `uhturl olnke tjl gvgnhgonhnty ca g `ckanflktngh `jgkklhacr rlpcrtnke ca nk`nflkts. Vjl wjnsthlohcwlr sntugtnck nk tjl `cuktry ns ogf, gkf g`tughhy elttnke wcrsl.Vjl hgws grl elttnke shnejthy tnejtlr, out tjl `uhturl wntjnk `cbpgknls gkf ecvlrkblkt, N tjnki, elttnkewcrsl. Gkf tjlk g prlvncus splgilr blktncklf must g hntthl ont lkacr`lblkt. Vjlrl wgs rlghhy kcfns`ussnck ca tjl lxtlrkgh kcrbs tjgt bnejt ol lkacr`lf nk crflr tc ercw tjl `uhturl ca sgalty. @uhturlsfck't sprnke up oy tjlbslhvls. Vjly kllf scbl inkf ca lxtlrkgh vghnfgtnck.

    Pc, ycu ikcw, tjlrl's g hntlrgturl ck ecvlrkgk`l. N wcuhf rlghhy must ornlahy sueelst tjgt trgfntnckgh`cbbgkf gkf `cktrch rleuhgtnck prcogohy ns kct g eccf nkstrublkt acr tjns, out tjlrl grl g `cuphl ca

    bcflhs, ckl olnke tjnrf-pgrty gufntcrs -- LTG gkf CPJG jgvl tghilf gocut tjgt nk tjl `jlbn`gh prc`lsswcrhf. Nt jgsk't ecttlk vlry agr ol`gusl ca silptn`nsb gocut tjl nkflplkflk`l ca tjl tjnrf pgrtnls. Gkf Nlk`curgel ycu tc hcci up g tlrb ca grt `ghhlf "lkacr`lgohl pgrtklrsjnps," wjn`j wcuhf ol scbl bcflh cainkf ca hnil g `ckslkt fl`rll wntjcut g prl`npntgtnke lvlkt kllfnke g `ckslkt fl`rll, out gk nkfustry ercup`cbls tc ecvlrkblkt gkf sgys, "Vjns ns g `cfl ca prg`tn`l tjgt wl tjnki ns rlgsckgohl, nt's ahlxnohl, wl wnhhachhcw nt gkf wl wnhh scrt ca `lfl cvlr tc ecvlrkblkt tjl gonhnty tc pllr cut, bgil surl tjgt wl'rl gonfnke oy cur cwk `cfl ca `ckfu`t." N tjnki, nk tjns `gsl, wntj CPJG olnke sc cvlrbgt`jlf, tjlrl wcuhf kllf tc ol scbl inkf ca aukfnke bl`jgknsb gs wlhh tc prcvnfl scbl trccps ck tjl ercukf tc lkacr`l tjgt.

    Ans`jjcaa= Cigy, tjgki ycu. Gkf sc twc bcrl qun`i `cbblkts gkf tjlk g qun`i achhcw up jlrl.

    Fgvl Frlw, Uccfrcw Unhsck @lktlr= N'b must g `ck`lrklf `ntnzlk, cvlrhy `urncus. By `cbblkts grl

    spl`nan`ghhy fnrl`tlf gocut puohn` flhnolrgtnck. Lvlrytjnke N'vl hlgrklf gocut ECA jgs ollk gt tjns`ckalrlk`l gkf tjl alw jcurs N rlslgr`jlf nt olacrl, sc N allh plrvlrslhy qughnanlf tc tghi gocut puohn`lkegelblkt nk tjgt rlegrf. Nt stru`i bl tjgt puohn` lkegelblkt `cuhf ol sllk gs snbnhgr tc upstrlgblkegelblkt nk tjgt nt ns gk laacrt oy s`nlktnsts tc plrsugfl tjl puohn` grcukf tc tjl cpnknck tjgt ns tjl`ckslksus ca tjl lxplrts. Pc N must wgkt tc gsi, ns upstrlgb lkegelblkt gkf puohn` flhnolrgtnck snbnhgr crtjl sgbl tjnke, gkf sjcuhf s`nlktnsts plrjgps hlgvl tjl puohn` lkegelblkt ck s`nlk`l nssuls gkfflvlhcpnke ukflrstgkfnke ck s`nlk`l nssuls tc s`nlk`l mcurkghnsb gkf s`nlk`l mcurkghs3

    Ans`jjcaa= Vjgki ycu vlry bu`j. Gkf cur hgst `cbblkt cr qulstnck.

    Blegk Tghblr ca tjl Ptgkacrf \knvlrsnty @lktlr acr Nktlrkgtnckgh Pl`urnty gkf @ccplrgtnck= Anrst, N mustwgktlf tc tjgki tjns pgklh. Nt's g`tughhy vlry rlarlsjnke gkf nhhubnkgtnke tc sll g spl`nan` ac`us ck tjlsl

    tcpn`s gt tjl stgrt ca tjl fgy. N wgktlf tc gsi, nk hnejt ca tjl ac`us tc jgvl spl`nan` rl`cbblkfgtncks, tcwjgt lxtlkt `gk ycu rl`cbblkf spl`nan` strgtlen` nktlrvlktncks tc ghhcwnke sustgnklf s`jchgrsjnp ck tjlsc`ngh gkf oljgvncrgh fnblksncks ca rlslgr`j, envlk tjgt tjlrl jgvl ollk hcke-stgkfnke tlksncks nknktlergtnke tjlsl typls ca coslrvgtncks, tjns typl ca wcri wntjnk s`nlktnan` prg`tn`l, gkf wntjnk tjl hnals`nlk`ls nk pgrtn`uhgr.

    Ujgt, nk ycur lxplrnlk`l, jgvl ollk lsslktngh lhlblkts tc in`i stgrtnke gkf sustgnknke tjgt prc`lss, ol nt must tjl rlscur`ls ghhc`gtlf, pgrtklrsjnps wntj ily nkfnvnfughs nk tjl anlhf, flsneknke tjl fgtgogsls nk tjlanrst phg`l3 Ns tjlrl gkytjnke nk pgrtn`uhgr3 Gkf ns tjlrl gkytjnke uknqul, lntjlr acr tjl olklant cr tjl

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    fltrnblkt ca egnk ca auk`tnck rlslgr`j gkf tjl wgy nt's ollk argblf gs g wgy tc jgvl gk lxgbphl ca jcwtjns typl ca rlslgr`j gkf pgrtklrsjnp bnejt ol cplrgtnckghnzlf nk tjl auturl3

    Ans`jjcaa= Hlt bl tjgki ycu ghh acr tjlsl lx`lhhlkt qulstncks. N wnsj wl jgf g hct ca tnbl. Pc, bgyol mustckl ankgh `cbblkt arcb lg`j ca ycu, stgrtnke wntj _utjgkkl.

    Junsnke= Pc tjl nssul ca `uhturl `jgkel ns g vlry slksntnvl ckl nk tjns pgrtn`uhgr `cktlxt ol`gusl wl grlflghnke wntj lhntls, wl grl flghnke wntj jnejhy lfu`gtlf lhntls wjc lxpl`t tc jgvl gutckcby. Vjly grl kct-- hlt bl sgy, tjlrl ns kct g hct ca cplkklss tc nflgs tjgt `cbl arcb lhslwjlrl. Pc N rlghhy fcaukfgblktghhy olhnlvl tjgt tjl nflgs gocut tjl nbpcrtgk`l ca sgalty gkf sl`urnty nk s`nlk`l grl ecnke tcjgvl tc `cbl arcb scbl ca tjl olst rlslgr`jlrs nk lg`j fns`nphnkl. Ul kllf tjl hlgflrs nk tjlslfns`nphnkls tc bcflh -- wl usl tjns wcrf, tc bcflh -- tjl nbpcrtgk`l ca tjlsl vghuls gkf kcrbgtnvllxpl`tgtncks nk rlslgr`j. Ul kllf tjl mcurkghs tc lxpl`t nt. Ul kllf `ckalrlk`ls tc jnejhnejt nt. Nt's ecnketc jgvl tc ol pusjlf arcb wntjnk. Vjl nflg ca scbl scrt ca pgrtklrsjnp wntj cutsnflrs cr scbltjnke tjgthccis hnil g `ckslkt fl`rll, wjn`j ns wjgt wl coslrvlf gt g bgmcr rlslgr`j uknvlrsnty, wgs kct g`ckvnk`nke greublkt acr lhntl s`nlktnsts tc `jgkel tjl wgy tjly oljgvlf.

    N fc tjnki tjl nflg ca kufel ns nk`rlfnohy nktlrlstnke gkf nbpcrtgkt, gkf N tjnki nt nflktnanls g wgy tjgt wl

    `gk `chhgocrgtl. Pc, acr lxgbphl, N gb `urrlkthy flsneknke kufel lxplrnblkts tjgt wnhh ol -- anlhflxplrnblkts wntjnk rlslgr`j hgocrgtcrnls tc ukflrstgkf wjgt inkf ca kufels `gk g`tughhy `jgkel `uhturl.Out ycu `gk nbgenkl tjl `chhgocrgtnck nk wjn`j wl bcfnay tjl lxplrnblkts tc ukflrstgkf scbl ca tjljubgk ag`tcrs rlslgr`j. Pc tjns ns g vlry aruntauh fns`ussnck.

    Ans`jjcaa= Egvnk, g hgst `cbblkt3

    Jukthly-Alkklr= ^lgj, N must wgktlf tc sgy ornlahy, N blgk, N tjnki ckl ca by bgnk pcnkts ns tjgt tjlflgrtj ca lrrcr fclsk't blgk tjgt wjgt wl kllf tc ikcw ns ukikcwgohl. Gkf sc N tgil tjgt tc jlgrt.Pcblckl gsilf g qulstnck gocut tjl sgalty jnlrgr`jy, gkf N wgktlf tc scrt ca must ornlahy blktnck tjlrl'sinkf ca gk nktlrlstnke pgrgfcx tjgt ecls ghcke wntj tjgt. Gkf ycu flsnek cut jubgk lrrcr, ycu elt tjlEccehl @gr, gkf ycu rlfu`l lrrcr rgtls gkf g``nflkts tc klgr zlrc, out ghh tjl lrrcr ycu jgvl hlat ns jubgk

    lrrcr gt tjgt pcnkt. Ujlk ycu put g stllrnke wjllh nk tjl Eccehl @gr, tjnkes ec wrcke. Pc, scbltjnke tctjnki gocut. ^cu'hh ghwgys kllf tc ac`us ck tjl jubgk lrrcr pnl`l, rlegrfhlss ca tjl flsnek trgml`tcry.

    Ans`jjcaa= Bckn`g.

    P`jc`j-Ppgkg= Vynke scbl ca _utjgkkl gkf Egvnk's `cbblkts wntj ylstlrfgy, scbl ca tjl tjnkes rgnslf oy Hgrry Ilrr, N tjnki tjl nssul ca olst prg`tn`ls, pgrtn`uhgrhy oy tjcsl rlslgr`jlrs gkf tjlnr jcst lktntnlsgkf tjlnr rlhgtncksjnp wntj tjl hgrelr `cbbuknty nk wjn`j tjly'rl sntugtlf, tjgt tjlrl grl olst prg`tn`ls tjgtN tjnki jgvl ylt tc ol `gpturlf, syktjlsnzlf gkf put acrtj gs olst prg`tn`l eunfgk`l grcukf oncsl`urnty, oncsgalty, gkf onc`rlfnonhnty, na ycu wgkt tc `ghh nt tjgt.

    Ck tjl nssul ca ns tjns must s`nlktnsts ornkenke plcphl cvlr tc tjl ctjlr snfl ca tjl greublkt -- N tjnki tjgt

    wgs tjl octtcb hnkl ca tjgt anrst qulstnck -- wjgt's nbpcrtgkt gocut puohn` flhnolrgtnck ns tjgt nk grlgs caltjn`gh uk`lrtgnkty wntj tl`jkn`gh `cbphlxnty, wjlrl tjlrl's g scrt ca bnx ca tctgh nktlrwcvlk-klss ca tjltl`jkn`gh gkf tjl kcrbgtnvl nssuls, tjgt tjlrl jgs tc ol g sjgrlf fnghceul. Nt nsk't gocut ornkenke scblcklcvlr tc tjl s`nlktnst's pcnkt ca vnlw, lvlk na tjlrl wgs must ckl pcnkt ca vnlw. Nt rlghhy ns tjgt ntlrgtnvllx`jgkel ca nkacrbgtnck tc `cbl gt, jcplauhhy, scbl typl ca butughhy gerllgohl `cbbck ercukf. Gkflvlk na nt's kct ycur snfl ca tjl greublkt, ycu `gk hnvl wntj wjgtlvlr tjl ankgh fl`nsnck ns. Gkf nt's g hntthl ont fnaalrlkt tjgk must purl plrsugsnck.

    Ans`jjcaa= Hlt bl tjgki tjl pgklh gkf tjgki tjl gufnlk`l. Gkf wl'hh ol og`i jlrl gt 77=44.

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    Plssnck 5= Olst Trg`tn`ls tc Nkacrb Kgtnckgh Tchn`y Flsnek gkf Nbphlblktgtnck= Tlrspl`tnvls ca

    Ily Ptgiljchflrs nk tjl Oncblfn`gh gkf Tuohn` Jlghtj @cbbukntnls

    Tjnh Fcrbntzlr= Pc N tjnki wl'rl rlgfy tc stgrt. N sllb tc ol bn`'f gs wlhh. Pc wlh`cbl tc tjl klxt slssnck.

    Vjns ckl ns ck Olst Trg`tn`ls tc Nkacrb Kgtnckgh Tchn`y Flsnek gkf Nbphlblktgtnck= Tlrspl`tnvl ca IlyPtgiljchflrs nk tjl Oncblfn`gh gkf Tuohn` Jlghtj @cbbukntnls. Pc tjns prc`lss, N eulss, stgrtlf g `cuphlylgrs gec kcw gs g flogtnke sc`nlty, gkf tjnkes wlrl prltty jlgtlf. Gkf nt's ol`cbl bu`j bcrlflhnolrgtnvl.

    Vjl klxt stlp ns g`tughhy pchn`y tjgt wnhh ol bgfl, ghtjcuej kct oy tjns ercup. Jcwlvlr, N tjnki wjgt tjnsercup sgys gkf fns`ussls wnhh jgvl g vlry hgrel nbpg`t, pgrtn`uhgrhy tjl KPGOO rl`cbblkfgtncks wnhh phgy g vlry hgrel rchl nk nkahulk`nke wjgt tjgt pchn`y ns. Pc tjns ns, N eulss, g tnbl tc ol quntl `ck`rltlgocut wjgt ycu tjnki wcuhf ol nbpcrtgkt tc nkacrb tjgt pchn`y, wjgt tjcsl pchn`nls bnejt ol. Ul'rl kctjlrl tc bgil pchn`y, out, ck tjl ctjlr jgkf, wl'vl orcuejt tceltjlr ily stgiljchflrs sc tjgt tjgt pchn`y`gk ol nkacrblf oy tjl vnlws ca ily stgiljchflrs ca `cbbukntnls.

    Gkf N wck't envl lvlryocfy's oncs jlrl, ol`gusl tjly grl nk tjl prcergb, out N tjnki wjlk ycu rlgf tjcsl oncs ycu'hh sll tjgt tjlsl plcphl grl lxtrlblhy wlhh-qughnanlf tc `cbblkt arcb tjlnr nkfnvnfugh plrspl`tnvls. Ltjgk Plttlborl jgs gk nkfustry plrspl`tnvl, jl ns pgrt ca g `cbpgky tjgt jgs ollk jlgvnhynkvchvlf nk pgkflbn` rlspcksl. Bn`jglh @ghhgjgk ns g pjysn`ngk wjc cregknzls tjl trlgtblkt ca vlry jnejnbpg`t nkal`tncus fnslgsls nk tjl anlhf gkf ns ghsc vlry fllphy nkvchvlf nk oncsl`urnty bgttlrs. MckgtjgkBcrlkc ns g oncltjn`nst gkf kct g onchcen`gh s`nlktnst, out `lrtgnkhy jgs g hct tc sgy gocut tjlsl nssuls. Gkf_colrt Ansjlr ns wntj tjl AFG, gkf ghsc flghs wntj blfn`gh `cuktlrblgsurls, lblrenke fnslgsls, gkf`cuktlrtlrrcrnsb, gkf `gk prcvnfl tjl plrspl`tnvl ca g rleuhgtcr ck scbl ca tjl cptncks acr nkahulk`nkewjgt ecls ck nk hgocrgtcrnls gkf lhslwjlrl.

    Pc N eulss wl'hh ec nk tjl crflr ca tjl prcergb. Pc, Bn`jglh, wcuhf ycu hnil tc stgrt3 Ul'hh jgvl gocut tlkbnkutls plr splgilr, g ornla pgklh fns`ussnck, gkf tjlk cplk nt up tc `cbblkts arcb tjl gufnlk`l.

    Bn`jglh @ghhgjgk= Vjgki ycu, Tjnhnp. N tjnki wl'rl caa tc g eccf stgrt ol`gusl by shnfls grl ck g \POfrnvl wjn`j frcpplf nktc g ocnhnke jct `up ca `caall nk Orgznh 6: jcurs gec. Gkf tjlk tjl sl`ckf tjnketjgt jgpplklf ns tjgt ghh ca tjl `gsl stufnls tjgt N'hh ol sjgrnke wntj ycu tcfgy kllflf tc ol sneklf caa acrjcst ̀ cuktry ̀ ck`urrlk`l cr nkstntutnckgh ̀ ck`urrlk`l.

    Vjl fgtg tjgt wl'rl prlslktnke tc ycu tcfgy `cbl arcb g kubolr ca nktlrkgtnckgh pgrtklrs. Gkf N tjnkiwjgt cur jcpl ns arcb cur fns`ussnck, wjlk cur ercup blt, wgs tc lxpgkf cur tjnkinke jlrl ck tjl KPG pchn`y g`tnvntnls sc wl fck't jgvl tc fc nt twn`l cr 71: tnbls acr lg`j `cuktry. Out tjl laacrts tjgt grl fckljlrl grl bnknbghhy rlvnslf nk g wgy tjgt tjly bllt tjl `uhturgh gkf s`nlktnan` bcrls ca wjlrl rlghhy tjl ourflk ca egnk ca auk`tnck g`tnvntnls ns rlghhy jgpplknke.

    Bgky ca ycu wnhh `cksnflr tjgt tjl trutjauhklss, na ycu wcri nktlrkgtnckghhy gkf na ycu wcri nk tjlnkfustry sl`tcr nk pgrtn`uhgr, tjgt tjl wcrhf ns ahgt acr oncnkkcvgtnck. Gs wl ikcw wntj usnke cur @jnklsl`chhlgeuls gs gk lxgbphl, tjly jgvl slqulk`lf bcrl vnrgh pgtjcelks nk acur bcktjs tjgk wl jgvl nk tjllktnrl jnstcry ca Ulstlrk Lurcpl gkf tjl \kntlf Ptgtls. Pc tjl pg`l gkf tjl rgpnfnty ca onclvchutnck gkftjl nk`rlgslf ac`us ck scvlrlnek jlghtj sl`urnty grl frnvnke tjlsl uklxpl`tlf typls ca egnk ca auk`tnckg`tnvntnls, wjn`j grl hgrelhy olklan`lkt cr bgrilt-frnvlk. N tjnki wl kllf tc illp tjns nk cur plrspl`tnvl.

    Pc N'b gk lx-Alf, gkf sc tjlrl's ghwgys g hgwylr fns`hgnblr shnfl, gkf kcw, wntjnk nkfustry rlspcksnonhnty,g Pgrogkls-Cxhly ocgrf ca fnrl`tcrs shnfl. Out N tjnki tjl jubnhnty tjgt N jgvl wntj ycu gocut egnk ca

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    Egnk ca Auk`tnck _lslgr`j= Vjl Pl`ckf Pybpcsnub, Fgy ?

    ?4

    auk`tnck gkf jcw bu`j wl jgvl tc fc ns frnvlk oy by lxplrnlk`ls wntj FG_TG gkf nts nktlrkgtnckghnkvlstblkts nk jnejhy fgkelrcus pgtjcelk bgkgelblkt tc ukflrstgkf wjgt klxt elklrgtnck onchcen`ghtjrlgts hcci hnil, gkf tc elt tjlrl lgrhy, elt tjlrl `hnkn`ghhy, elt tjlrl arcb g hgocrgtcry `gpg`nty gkfukflrstgkf nt.

    Out sc, tcc, fcls Bgssg`jusltts Elklrgh Jcspntgh ghsc phgy g rchl nk tjns ol`gusl N `cbpltl acr alflrghhy-

    aukflf rlslgr`j, N'b g prnk`npgh nkvlstnegtcr acr FV_G, tjl Flpgrtblkt ca Ptgtl, \PGNF, gkf KNJ, gkfruk prcergbs nktlrkgtnckghhy acr tjl @lktlr acr Ehcogh Jlghtj. Gkf sc N ukflrstgkf wjgt nt's hnil acr tjlg`gflbn`s tc ol `cbpltntnvl. Gkf acr \kntlf Vjlrgplutn`s tc bgil gktnvnrghs tjgt wnhh cut`cbpltl ctjlrgktnvnrghs, cur frues kllf tc jgvl ahgnr. Pc wl jgvl g flkeul frue nk pjgsl twc tjgt jgs ollk g`qunrlf oygkctjlr `cbpgky. Pc g`gflbn`, ecvlrkblkt, gkf nkfustry lxplrnlk`l jgs bgfl bl g`tughhy uklgsy, bcrluklgsy tjgk N wgs wjlk N wcrilf fnrl`thy nk egnk ca auk`tnck bgky ylgrs gec.

    Pc tjns shnfl wl'rl ecnke tc znp rnejt tjrcuej. Nt's must tc frgw ycur gttlktnck tc tjl bctnvgtncksnktlrkgtnckghhy tjgt spur egnk ca auk`tnck rlslgr`j. Gkf nt's nbpcrtgkt tc kctl tjgt tjly grl nktlktnckgh gkfhgrelhy ac`uslf ck nbprcvnke tjl qughnty ca blfn`gh prcfu`ts. Nt sjcuhf ol stgtlf lgrhy gkf quntl `hlgrhytjgt tjl bgmcrnty ca blfn`gh `cuktlrblgsurl flvlhcpblkt ns sjnatnke arcb Ulst tc Lgst, gkf tjgt bgky catjcsl Lgstlrk gktn-nkal`tnvls, bcst kctgohy tjl gktn-og`tlrnghs, achhcwlf oy tjl gktnvnrghs, grl klvlr

    nktlkflf acr Ulstlrk bgrilts. Pc wl fck't g`tughhy sll tjcsl frues.

    Gkf N blktncklf tjns ylstlrfgy nk tjl cplk bn` slssnck, out wl kllf tc gvgnh curslhvls ca gkf ukflrstgkftjlsl frues ol`gusl wl'rl ecnke tc rl`lnvl tjcsl rlsnstgkt vnrusls fcwkrgkel. Pc wl fc kllf tc fc wjgt N olhnlvl nt wgs Gkfy Ulolr, tjl acrblr Gssnstgkt Pl`rltgry acr Oncflalksl gt tjl Tlktgeck, stgtlf, "Ulkllf 'Ecnkt,' wl fck't kllf 'Jubnkt,' wl fck't kllf 'Elklnkt,' wl fck't kllf 'Bgsnkt,' wl kllf tc elt tjlrl,`ccplrgtl, `chhgocrgtl, wl kllf tc ec." Pc N tjnki tjgt wl kllf tc tjnki gocut tjgt, ol`gusl ycu `gkkct pjckl tjns stuaa nk arcb Ugsjnketck, F.@.

    Cur lxplrnlk`ls cvlrslgs gkf cur `ck`lrks grl frnvlk oy stgaanke Gsngk vlkturl `gpntgh. Na N ec tjlrl gs g\.P. ecvlrkblkt rlprlslktgtnvl gkf N'b nk Gsngk nkstntutncks, N sll scbl prltty eccf stuaa. N sll kctghgrbnke stuaa. N ec tc vlkturl nk Pnkegpcrl cr Vgnpln, gkf N sll rlghhy gbgznke stuaa. Pc N'b ecnke tc sjcw

    tjgt tc ycu ol`gusl nt wnhh, N tjnki, ukflrs`crl tjl nbpcrtgk`l ca plkltrgtnke ghh tjl fnaalrlkt stgiljchflrstjgt grl gssnstnke egnk ca auk`tnck g`tnvntnls. Gkf tjl hgst pcnkt ns kct must tjl nktlktnckgh up tcp -- N tjnkitjgt's ollk fns`usslf -- out tjl uknktlktnckgh.

    Ul kllf tc ukflrstgkf tjgt oy kct cregknznke cur nktlrvlktncks nk g wgy tjgt's blgknkeauh, `uhturghhyg``lptgohl, gkf bllts jcst `cuktry `ck`urrlk`l acr scvlrlnek jlghtj sl`urnty ca acrlnek kgtncks, wl bnejtjgvl uknktlkflf lvlkts tjgt hlgf tc prcohlbs. Gkf N'hh sjgrl g `cuphl ca tjcsl prcohlbs wntj ycu. Ckl catjl one ckls, oy tjl wgy, ns tjgt cur vg``nkls grl olnke `ckstru`tlf nk g wgy tjgt eugrgktlls nbbuklls`gpl, nbbukl lvgsnck, gkf fltl`tcr flalgt, gkf tjlrl grl lxgbphls ca tjns tjgt grl hgrelhy rlstrn`tlf tctjl pcuhtry sl`tcr ca Gsngk vg``nkls.

    Ghh rnejt, sc N gb kct qughnanlf tc tghi gocut tjl rgkel ca \.P. pchn`y acr tjl KPGOO stufy, out N wcuhf

     must gsi tjgt wl rlahl`t ck tjl lx`lhhlkt `cbblkts ylstlrfgy acr tjl kck-ghneklf kgtncks. Vjly grl cur`ustcblrs acr prcfu`ts gs wlhh, acr puohn` jlghtj sl`urnty. Gkf N tjnki wl kllf tc tjnki gocut tjcsl 77?`cuktrnls. Gkf N'b tjgkiauh acr tjl `cbblkts tjgt wlrl orcuejt up ol`gusl tjly'rl tjl euys tjgt tchf tjlFlpgrtblkt ca Flalksl Gfvgk`lf _lslgr`j Trcml`t Gelk`y tjgt tjly wnhh klvlr ornke g vg``nkl nktcNkfcklsng ukhlss nt's jghgh. Pc wl bgil jghgh vg``nkls. FG_TG bgils jghgh vg``nkls.

    Pc, na ycu fck't ukflrstgkf tjns gt tjl elt-ec, ycu grl ecnke tc prcbctl nk`lktnvls acr fcblstn` vg``nklbgkuag`turl wntj uknktlkflf `ckslqulk`ls su`j gs tjl usl ca hcw-`cst, wjchl vnrus, nkg`tnvgtlf vg``nkls.Vjgt ns wjlrl ycu ercw up tjl tjrlgt gelkt, tjl sgbl ckl wl'rl splkfnke onhhncks ca fchhgrs ukflr

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    Egnk ca Auk`tnck _lslgr`j= Vjl Pl`ckf Pybpcsnub, Fgy ?

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    `ccplrgtnvl tjrlgt rlfu`tnck g`tnvntnls tc illp hc`ilf gwgy. Vjly grl olnke prcpgegtlf quntl geerlssnvlhygkf tjlk inhhlf gt tjl lkf gkf olnke turklf nktc wgys tc prctl`t l`ckcbn` nkvlstblkts nk hnvlstc`i.

    Ul'rl ecnke tc splkf g `cuphl bnkutls ck tjns shnfl ol`gusl nt `gpturls g kubolr ca puohn`ghhy fns`hcslflvlkts, wjn`j ycu `gk rlgf aurtjlr gocut, out wl ghsc jgvl tjl rlalrlk`ls twc shnfls arcb kcw. Vjl anrsttwc `gsls grl nk tjl upplr hlat, ns tjl Og`nhhus `lrlus >?67 gkf -6? slrnls, gkf, ca `cursl, Lochg Bgickg.

    Gkf tjlsl twc `gsls grl lxgbphls ca tjl fnstrnoutnck ca wnhf typl gelkts tjgt jgvl ollk prcbctlf oy ghg`i ca `celkt gkf tjcuejtauh pchn`nls oy rlscur`l-rn`j onctl`jkchcey ercups.

    Nk tjl `gsl ca Og`nhhus `lrlus, bcst ca tjl puhbckgry gktjrgx `gsls tjgt N'vl sllk -- kct `utgklcus -- puhbckgry gktjrgx `gsls N'vl bgkgelf, wjn`j ns 0?, jgvl olhckelf tc Og`nhhus `lrlus, gk gelkt kct ck tjl@gtlecry G hnst. Gkf, nbpcrtgkthy, 6?% ca tjcsl pgtnlkts fnlf, gkf tjly fnlf ca gktjrgx, ol`gusl tjly fnlfca gktjrgx tcxlbng gkf Og`nhhus `lrlus.

    Pc na ycu wlrl ckl ca tjl scutjlrk `cuktrnls tjgt jgs flknlf g``lss tc tjl prnblrs tc nflktnay Og`nhhus`lrlus, E slrnls, gktjrgx Og`nhhus, na ycu wnhh, ycu'hh ukflrstgkf wjy tjly bnejt prcpgegtl tjl strgnkstjrcuejcut tjl `hnkn`gh bn`rconchcey hgocrgtcrnls sc tjgt tjly `gk hcci gt tjl oltgjlbchytn` pgttlrk uknqultc tjns gktjrgx-hnil Og`nhhus `lrlus gkf ns kct acukf nk gktjrgx. Nt ghhcws tjlb tc bllt tjlnr rlqunrlblkts

    acr jcst `cuktry rlpcrtnke tc tjl Bnknstry ca Jlghtj ca snx @lktrgh Gblrn`gk kgtncks. Pc tjns ns g prcohlbnkahn`tlf oy kct sjgrnke rlgelkts tc jlhp ku`hln` g`nf fngekcstn` `gpgonhnty nk vlry bnffhl nk`cbl,gaahulkt, gkf blfn`ghhy-scpjnstǹ gtlf ̀ cuktrnls.

    Vc tjl `lktlr ca tjl shnfl ns Bgickg, Lochg Bgickg acr ?476. Ul rlahl`t og`i tjgt na ycu `chhl`tlf ghh catjl Lochg -- \.P. Lochg `hnkn`ngks tjgt jgvl jgf lxplrnlk`l wntj Lochggkf Bgroure pgtnlkts, tjlykubolrlf 740 nk ?470. Kcw tjlrl grl tjcusgkfs ca tjlb jgppnhy ol`gusl tjly rlspckflf tc tjl cutorlgi.Pc, tcc, fnf tjl `jgcs ca tjgt trlgtblkt lkvnrckblkt gkf cur nkgonhnty tc fc prcbpt rlalrrgh hlgf tc `hnkn`ghfngekcsns gkf tjl fnstrnoutnck ca `hnkn`gh bgtlrnghs tc lnejt `cuktrnls, nk`hufnke @jgf, Knelr, Bghn, gkfIgfukg Ptgtl -- wjn`j ns tjl blfn`gh `lktlr ca tjl Nshgbn` Kcrtj nk Knelrng, nt ns tjlnr Jgrvgrf, Jcpinks,gkf Ptgkacrf. Pc tjl fnstrnoutnck ca tjcsl onchcen` sgbphls wjn`j jgvl ollk ilpt `chf jgs mustukflrbnklf $7.0 onhhnck ca ̀ ccplrgtnvl tjrlgt rlfu`tnck g`tnvntnls.

    By pcnkt ca tjlsl anrst twc lxgbphls tghis gocut tjl kllf tc uknay \.P. pchn`y oltwllk tjl lvlkts tjgt grljgpplknke nk tjns rccb wntj ghh tjl ctjlr nkvlstblkts ca tjl \.P. gkf Lurcpl tc ukflrstgkf tjgt wl kllftc bgil tjlsl systlbs wcri tceltjlr, tc prcvnfl vngohl schutncks, tc rlfu`l tjl wnhf-typl fnstrnoutnck, gkftjgt's olacrl wl elt tc oncnkkcvgtnck.

    Ujlk wl tjnki ca egnk ca auk`tnck, gkf na ycu ec og`i tc wjlrl nt wgs anrst wrnttlk, nt wgs tghilf gocut nkGpplkfnx tjrll ca tjl Onchcen`gh Ulgpcks @ckvlktnck. Plvlrgh ca ycu wlrl wntj us nk tjcsl rccbs nk tjllgrhy ?444s, gkf N tjnki ycu'hh gerll tjgt kcocfy ikcws egnk ca auk`tnck olttlr tjgk g acrblr Pcvnlt onchcen`gh wlgpcks s̀ nlktnst. Vjly wcrilf ck nt acr caalksnvl usls. Kcw cur `ccplrgtnvl tjrlgt rlfu`tnckg`tnvntnls grl wcrinke tc frnvl tjlb tc turk tjlnr swcrfs nktc phcwsjgrls, gkf tjlnr gfvgktgel nk lktlrnketjl Ulstlrk bgrilts gkf tjl bgrilts ca tjl AP\ grl tc ol olttlr tjgk wl grl, gkf tc tlst tjcsl blfn`gh

    `cuktlrblgsurls gegnkst tjl bcst rcoust gkf jgrflklf tjrlgt gelkts, pgrtn`uhgrhy tjl anhcvnrus `gsls.

    Pc gk lxgbphl acr us, nk ?44?, og`i tjlk wl `cuhf ruk grcukf vnrgh jlbcrrjgen` wlgpcks hgos gt vl`tcr.Pc wl `cuhf fc tjgt tjlk. Ul `cuhf wcri quntl `hcslhy wntj cur pgrtklrs tjlk. Gkf rnejt kcw, ful tc pchn`y nssuls gkf pchntn`s, wl'rl ukgohl tc lkegel tjlb nk rlghhy blgknkeauh fns`ussncks hnil tjns ckl jlrl.Vjl olst `gsl N jgvl acr ycu `cbls arcb Oncvlkturl, gkf nt ns hc`gtlf gt tjl tjrll c'`hc`i pcsntnck jlrl.N'b scrry tjl hgslr pcnktlr ns g hntthl ont blli. Gkf tjgt's g prcfu`t tjgt wl acukf cut gocut tjrcuej oncnkfustry gkf vlkturl `gpntgh nk gk ukkgblf `nty nk Pcutjlgst Gsng. Nt ns kct @jnkg. Nt ns kct Vgnwgk. Nt

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    Egnk ca Auk`tnck _lslgr`j= Vjl Pl`ckf Pybpcsnub, Fgy ?

    ??

    ns kct Mgpgk. Out nt's ckl ca tjl bcst gaahulkt. Gkf tjly wlrl anlhfnke bgrilt lktry, rgfn`ghhy flstgonhnznketl`jkchcey gfvgk`lblkts tjgt wcuhf tgil cvlr hgrel bgrilts.

    Gkf tjl lxgbphl tjgt tjly uslf, frnvlk oy B`Inksly @cksuhtgtnck Plrvn`l gkf g ouk`j ca UjgrtckP`jcch ergfugtls, BOGs, wgs nk crflr tc ec gatlr tjl vlry hu`rgtnvl `csbltn` nkfustry, tjl Octcxnkfustry, ycu kllflf tc ec gatlr tjl kubolr ckl tjnke tjgt tjl pgtnlkts jgtlf, wjn`j wgs rlpltntnvl sjcts.

    Gkf ycu fc tjns oy ghtlrnke tjl octuhnkub tcxnk tc bgil nt hgst hckelr. Pc wjgt fnf kct sjcw up nk tjlTcwlrTcnkt shnfl ns tjl PKGT-?< `hlgvgel sntl ca tjl ghpjg suouknt ca tjl octuhnsb tcxnk, wjn`j ns hc`gtlfgocut jghawgy fcwk tjl stlb. Gkf oy jnfnke nt arcb slrnkl prctlgsls nk ycur ocfy, nt ogsn`ghhy prcfu`ls g0Z nk`rlgsl nk tjl pjysnchcen` jgha-hnal gkf onkfnke.

    Cigy, sc nt wgs kct klagrncus. Nt wgs l`ckcbn`ghhy-frnvlk, prg`tn`ghhy, oy ousnklss rlgscks, gkf pcsls gkcovncushy juel egnk ca auk`tnck lxgbphls tc us. Vjly fnf kct -- tjly gpprl`ngtlf tjns ercup ca ycukes`nlktnsts, gpprl`ngtlf tjly fnf kct kllf tc bgil nt bcrl vnruhlkt. Pc tjly wnslhy `gbl tc tjl `uhturghukflrstgkfnke tjgt g`tughhy _utjgkkl orcuejt up arcb B`Enhh lgrhnlr tcfgy tjgt tjns `uhturgh nssul `gkrlghhy jlhp ycu jlrl, out tjly bnsslf ck tjl ctjlr pgrt, wjn`j ns hckelvnty.

    Vwc agst ckls must tc lkf ns tjgt wl ghsc kllf tc ukflrstgkf tjl slha-nkahn`tnck ca kct prcvnfnke vngohl

    ghtlrkgtnvls nk tjl vlry rcwfy gvngk pcuhtry vg``nkl bgrilts ca Pcutjlgst Gsng, wjlrl tjl vg``nkls grl`rlgtlf hc`ghhy. Gkf gs klw `hgfls ca hcw pgtj gkf jnej pgtj J< `cbl tjrcuej, gkf Klw`gsthl„s gkfgvngk octuhnsb gkf gvngk `jchlrg, wjn`j fl`nbgtl tjl og`iygrf tlrrlstrngh prctlnk jlrfs, gkf tjgt tjlsl grl`rntn`ghhy nbpcrtgkt tc tjl bgnktlkgk`l ca prctlnk sl`urnty nk tjl Nshgbn` _lpuohn` ca Nkfcklsng gkfBghgysng, wl `gkkct flky tjlb tjl cppcrtuknty tc `cbl up wntj rlgsckgohl hcw-`cst vg``nkls tjgt grlelklrgtlf gt plkknls plr fcsl rgtjlr tjgk tjl nktlrkgtnckgh cptnck, wjn`j `csts slvlk fchhgrs g fcsl plr onrf. Vjgt `jn`ilk nk Nkfcklsng jgs g jgha-hnal ca gocut snx bcktjs, gkf kc ckl's ecnke tc nkvlst nk tjgtacrlnek nbpcrt, sc tjly'hh `rlgtl tjl vg``nkls hc`ghhy.

    _gtjlr bgeknan`lkthy, tjly grl prltty eccf gt rl`cbonkgkt tl`jkchcey tjrcuej sleblktgh rlgsscrtblkt. Pctjly tgil tjlnr J

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    Egnk ca Auk`tnck _lslgr`j= Vjl Pl`ckf Pybpcsnub, Fgy ?

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    kct typn`ghhy Bnknstry ca Jlghtj aukflf cr rlenckgh KEC aukflf. Nt ns aukflf oy vlkturl. Vjlrl ns g hgrelkubolr ca tjlsl. Vjly'vl ollk prcfu`lf gkf fnstrnoutlf tc `lrtgnk gelk`nls nk tjl \.P. ecvlrkblkt, outtjly kllf tc ol put olacrl tjl g`gflbn` lxplrts gkf nkfustry lxplrts. Vjly kllf tc rlgf tjlsl tjnkes tcukflrstgkf tjlnr nbphn`gtnck.

    Qg``nkls, wl kllf tc prcvnfl hn`lkslf, sgal gkf laal`tnvl, gkf nklxplksnvl vg``nkls tjgt fck't rlqunrl

    `chf `jgnk. Ghh vg``nkls bgfl nk Nkfcklsng gkf Bghgysng acr tjl gern`uhturgh bgrilt grl `chf-nktchlrgkt.Pc wjgt tjly kllf tc fc -- tjns ns ckl wgy nk -- ns tjrcuej tjlrbc-stgonhnzlf vg``nkl tl`jkchcenls tjgt wl`gk ornke tc tjlb. Ujy kct must envl tjlb lxpcrt vg``nkl flsnek3 Nk gk lxgbphl tjgt ns acur ylgrs chfkcw, tjl ecvlrkblkt ca Nkfcklsng ghhcwlf tjl slqulk`l -- kct tjl vnrus -- tc hlgvl Nkfcklsng, `cbl tc g\.P. alflrgh gelk`y. Must tjl slqulk`l acr jlbgeehutnknk wgs turklf nktc suouknt vg``nkl prcfu`t, wjn`jwgs EBT, wlkt og`i tc Nkfcklsng gkf wgs tlstlf ck onrfs tjgt wlrl `jghhlkelf oy wnhf lxpcsurl. Cigy3

    Pc wl hnvl nk gk gel wjlrl slqulk`l gkf phg`l ns ol`cbnke tjl kcrb, wjlrl pgtjcelk lxpcrtgtnck nsflankntlhy hccilf fcwk upck oy tjl 77? kck-ghneklf kgtncks. Gkf sc wl'rl ecnke tc sll alwlr ca tjlslvnruhlkt vnrusls olnke slkt tc cur bgmcr ag`nhntnls nk Lurcpl, tjl \kntlf Ptgtls, gkf @gkgfg. Gkf sc na wlukflrstgkf tjgt, wl `gk rchh wntj nt. Ul `gk gfgpt gkf prcvnfl oncnkacrbgtn`s, one fgtg gkghysns systlbs,gkf fnstrnoutlf bgkuag`turnke ogsls nk tjl syktjltn` gkf `hcuf spg`l.

    Vjl hgst twc pcnkts tc lkf wntj ns tjgt \.P. ecvlrkblkt plracrblrs gt \PGNF, FG_TG Trcpjl`y, gkf@lktlr acr Ehcogh Jlghtj prctl`tnke cur nktlrkgtnckgh ̀ chhgocrgtcrs arcb _47-aukflf nkvlstnegtcrs wjcslli tc fc kctjnke bcrl tjgk elt g vnrus, ec jcbl, gkf wrntl tjlnr one Kgturl pgplr. Gkf na wl fc kctstgrt puttnke nt tc tjl scur`l slhl`tnck `rntlrng ca gwgrfnke tjcsl `cktrg`ts gkf tc ounhfnke `gpg`nty gkfbgnktgnknke stgohl, kct ukstgohl, rlhgtncksjnps wntj cur nktlrkgtnckgh pgrtklrs, tjlk wl'rl ecnke tc plrpltugtl tjl prcohlbs tjgt wl'rl jgvnke rnejt kcw wntj Lochg, tjl prcohlbs tjgt wl'rl jgvnke rnejt kcwnk ]nig.

    Fc ycu ikcw jcw bgky strgnks ca ]nig wl jgvl nk tjl \kntlf Ptgtls3 Knkl. Fc ycu ikcw jcw bgkyOrgznh jgs fllp slqulk`lf rnejt kcw3 Pnxty-ckl. Fc ycu ikcw jcw bgky Tgkgbg jgs rnejt kcw3 Vjnrty-slvlk. Ujy grl tjly gvlrsl tc sjgrnke tjlb wntj tjl \kntlf Ptgtls gs blbolrs ca tjl \kntlf Kgtncks3

    Vjl gkswlr ns tjly'vl ollk rnpplf caa, cigy3 Vjly'vl ollk rnpplf caa gkf tjly wnhh tlhh ycu tjlsl `gslsgkf tjly wnhh pcnkt cut wjc tjl caalkflrs grl. Pc wl kllf tc tjnki gocut tjgt gs pgrt ca tjl KPGOO pchn`yacr cur alflrghhy-aukflf rlslgr`jlrs.

    Gkf tjl hgst ns must nk`lktnvnznke cur jcst kgtnck `cbphngk`l wntj tjl pchn`nls tjgt grl jgpplknke nk tjnsrccb oy fcnke wjgt wl agnhlf tc fc acr ghh cur @V_ ylgrs nk _ussng gkf @jnkg gkf Orgznh gkf PcutjGarn`g gkf Knelrng, gkf tjgt's prcvnfl g bltrn` acr tjlsl g`tnvntnls tjgt tjly `gk blgsurl, tjgt jgs vghul gtjcbl. Nt sgvls `jn`ilks. Nt sgvls tjl `gtthl gkf hnvlstc`i. Nt rlfu`ls nkagkt bcrtghnty. Nt prctl`ts bctjlrstjgt grl prlekgkt. Cigy. Gkf sc N'hh must lkf wntj aurtjlr rlgfnke. Vjgt's ycur rlalrlk`l shnfl. Vjns ns ghh kchckelr acr caan`ngh usl ckhy. Vjlsl grl puohn`ghhy gvgnhgohl fc`ublkts, bcsthy ck tjl wlosntl. Gkf N'hh turkycur gttlktnck tc "Plqulk`l-Nk-Thg`l= Gk Lkegelblkt Ptrgtley acr Bgnktgnknke Pcvlrlnek JlghtjPl`urnty," wjn`j ns ckl ca tjl prlbnlr fc`ublkts tjgt ns bnssnke arcb cur fnghceul jlrl. N wlkt g bnkutl

    cvlr. N gpchcenzl. Gkf N'hh wgnt acr ycur qulstncks gt tjl lkf ca tjl slssnck. Vjgki ycu sc bu`j.

    Fcrbntzlr= Vjgkis, Bn`jglh. Gkf _colrt, ycu'rl up.

    Ansjlr= Pc, anrst, N'f hnil tc tjgki tjl nkvntgtnck acr AFG tc `cbl up gkf splgi wntj ycu gkf tc pgrtn`npgtlnk tjns pgklh. N hnil tc tjnki tjgt AFG ns scblwjgt uknqulhy pcsntncklf acr tjns fns`ussnck nk pgrt ol`guslwl fc rlslgr`j, wl fc aukf rlslgr`j. Olhnlvl nt cr kct, wl g`tughhy jgvl hgocrgtcrnls. Ul jgvl `gpgohlhgocrgtcrnls. Ul jgvl tghlktlf s`nlktnsts. Out tjl rlgh rlgsck N tjnki wl'rl jlrl ns ol`gusl ca cur bgnkbnssnck wjn`j ns tc rlghhy lksurl tjgt tjl blf