Ver.11.1. /3.10.2016 ©Copyright G. Dunkel

Grouping of Baltic N-Z16981+ SNPs

When evaluating the results of Yfulls analysis’s of various BigY tests conducted at FTDNA and by

reviewing these tests it was found that it might be possible to identify and significantly increase our

knowledge of the SNP structure of the Balts (Baltic peoples).

The genetic Z16981 Balts separated from other Balts at their common marker SNP N-M2783 and to

date can be characterized by the recently discovered mutations, which share Z16981 Balts into

different subclades: Z16981/Y4756 (C to G) pos.23815649

Z17082 (G to C) pos.2245989

Z16980/Y4755 (T to C) pos.23386291

CTS8173 (C to T) pos.17860190

Y11882 (C to T) pos.2960040

Y24601 (A to C) pos.16087568

Y15922 (T to C) pos.17019899

no named (T to C) pos.13665010

Z35237 (C to A) pos.16839242

Y16847 (C to T) pos.16451433

A7071 (A to G) pos.15139280

Y22098 (G to A) pos.17512705

Y6075/Z17078 (T to C) pos.7411987

Y6077/Z17079 (T to C) pos.17299529

Y6076/Z17081 (T to C) pos.21312826

Y20340 (A to T) pos.15053914

Y17696 (G to A) pos.7178362

Y17420 (A to G) pos.8832507

Y17418 (C to G) pos.6681008

A11470 (A to G) pos.21989513

A11308 (A to G) pos.23258147

A2358 (C to T) pos18943509

L709 (G to A) pos.17470271

Stable SNPs which are equal to the above listed, are presented in the chart on the next

page.

The various sources (dated 2.10.2016) that help to identify Baltic are:

YFull

N-Tree ver.4.09. Baltic branch SNP N-Z16981 is shown 6 lines:

Z16981 > A2358+

Z16981 > CTS8173 > A11470+

Z16981 > CTS8173 > Y11882+

Z16981 > CTS8173 > Y11882+ > Y24601+

Z16981 > CTS8173 > Y15922> Y16847> Y22098+

Z16981 > CTS8173 > Y6075 > Y6077 > Y6076 > Y20340+

Z16981 > CTS8173 > Y6075 > Y6077 > Y6076 > Y17696 > Y17420 > Y17418+

ISOGG-2016

In 2016 N-Y-Tree has added two Western Balts branches:

N1c1a1a1a1a4=Y4756/Z16981

N1c1a1a1a1a4a=CTS8173

The

Reference material of FTDNA 2.10.2016

By analyzing the results from various projects at FTDNA we have found 76 results that contain

one or more of the newly discovered mutations Z16981+, Z16980+, CTS8173+.

29 of these results were identified by the BigY tests of which 19 were later confirmed by

undergoing YFull analyzes, a further 36 results were found after undergoing FTDNA’s Advanced

Testing or with N-SNP-Pack.

Nine results are tested by YSEQ DNA Origins Project.

Three samples are from Estonian Biocentre.

Comparison of the new SNPs

It seems that YFull’s BAM-analyze gives better results than FTDNA’s BigY Browser.

BigY Browser finds well Z16981, but Z16980 and CTS8173 are not often found, when same time

YFull analyze find them with high quality.

Group-1: SNP N-Z16981+

Z16981+ is the ground SNP for this Baltic branch.

#B67305, #247648, #440636 can also be next younger experimental SNP Z17082+,

but STR markers are closer to Z16981+

YFull’s STR Variants: DYS522=14, DYS389i=13, DYS389ii=29 works perfect.

1. SNP N-Z16981+ (3200-2300 years before present)

B67305 Ryan Day LTU Z16981*,Z16980-,Y6075-,FGC13512-

247648 Eugene Lipovtsen RUS Z16981*,CTS8173-

440636 Toimi Hörkkö FIN Z16981+, Z16980-

Group-1.1.: N-Z16981>A2358+

Old subclade downstream from Z16981+ is found by two BigY results:

1.1. N-Z16981>A2358+ (3200-2300 years before present)

272525 Arnold Stanton LVA BigY YF03557 Z16981+,A2358+,Z17082-,CTS8173-,Y6075-,FGC13512-,Y15922-

425149 Troy Beyer GBR BigY YF05224 Z16981+,A2358+,Z17082-,CTS8173-,Y6075-,FGC13512-,Y15922-

Group-1.2.1.: N-Z16981>Z17082>pos.26138886+

So far 2 samples are found with Z16982+/16980- and they stared 11 Novel SNPs.

1.2.1. N-Z16981>Z17082>pos.26138886+

161554 Stanislaw Dumin BLR BigY YF03832 Z16981+,Z17082+,pos.26138886+,Z16980-,Y6075-,FGC13512-,Y15922-

N33252 Egons Baumanis LVA BigY Z16981+,Z17082+,pos.26138886+,Z16980-,Y6075-,FGC13512-,Y15922-

Group-2: N-Z16981>Z17082>Z16980+ (CTS8173+)

In this group has 18 results. For #167322, #N139742, #381748 and #GS35027 this location looks so

far the terminal SNP. #403211, #221297 and #E13999 have possibility to Y15922+ and A11470+.

Other 11 samples of group may have possibility to group younger branches like Y6075+, Y11882+,

Y15922+, A11470+, L709+, but more detailed study is needed.

All samples have STR DYS385b=14/15.

#N139742,#239065 DYS391=10.

#N23774 and #314529 DYS413=21-21 might indicate to move Y11882+

#403211 and #E13999 share DYS385b=15 and DYS413=22-22.

Any other STR connections are difficult to find.

YFull’s STR variants: DYS532=11,DYS576=17,(DYS710=38 (unclear)

2. N-Z16981>Z17082>Z16980+ (3000-1550 ybp)

167322 Igor Sheleshpansky RUS

BigY YF06761 Z16981+,Z17082+,CTS8173+,Z16980-,Y11882-,Y15922-,FGC13512-,Y6075-,L709-

454159 Martins Sirmais ? Z16981+,Z16980+,Y6075-,Y11882-

N139742 Monkevich LTU BigY YF04370 Z16981+,Z17082+,Z16980+,CTS8173+,Y11882-,Y15922-,A11308-,Y6075-

GS35027-ASM

Lat2/Cesis LVA EBC Z17082+,Z16980+,CTS8173+,Y11882-,Y15922-,FGC13512-,Y6075-

381748 Jaak Saame EST YSEQ CTS8173+,Z6075-,Z17079-, Y15922-,FGC13512ins-,L709-,L710-,L711-

239065 Tadeusz Pilat POL (Z16981+),CTS8173+

373965 Stanley Szanty HUN Z16981+,CTS8173+

N23774 T. Bagdon LTU (Z16981+),CTS8173+

314529 Andrey Apalkov RUS (Z16981+),CTS8173+

358030 Vit Veverka CZE (Z16981+),CTS8173+

319541 Tom Chernowetz RUS Z16981+

221297 Raimundas Janusis LTU Z16981+,Z16980+,Y6075-,Y11882-

296745 Juozas Janusis LTU (close relative with #221297)

278883 anonymous POL Z16981+

403211 Nikolay Ilyin ? Z16981+,Z16980+,Y6075-,Y11882-

N81387 Matthew Pryber POL (Z16981+),Z16980+

E13999 Victor LVA Z16981+,Z16980+,Y6075-,Y11882-

? Alex Korndorf ? Z16980+ (STR67 unknown)

441255 Matti Nerg FIN Z16981+

Group-2.1.: N-Z16981>Z17082>Z16980>L709+

#253281 and #183394 share experimental SNPs L709+,(L710+,L711+). Sample #381748 shares

rare marker combinations DYS520=22 with DYS391=10 and assumed to this group.

2.1. N-Z16981>Z17082> Z16980>L709+

183394 Eugene Matyushonok BLR (Z16981+),CTS8173+,L709+,L710+,Y6075-

253281 Matyushonok BLR (Z16981+,CTS8173+),L709+

Group-2.2.: N-Z16981>Z17082>Z16980>A11470+

This experimental Novel SNP position 21989513 (A to G) is shared with 3 BigY samples.

2.2. N-Z16981>Z17082>Z16980>A11470+

415130 Hannu Katajamäki FIN BigY Z16981+,Z17082+,Z16980+,Y15922-,A11308-,L709-,Y6075-,Y11882-

Group-2.2.1.: N-Z16981>Z17082>Z16980>A11470>A11308+

Two results #N81921+, #145475+ shared Novel Variants and so represent a new sub branch characterized

by the mutations: A11308 pos.23258147 (A to G) and FGC17504 pos.13909514 (C to T).

Unusual STR Y-GATA-H4=10 might correlate this SNP as well DYS568=12.

2.2.1. N-Z16981>Z17082>Z16980>A11470>A11308+

N81921

Aart Berkhout NLD BigY YF01937 Z16981+,Z17082+,Z16980+,CTS8173+,2189513+,A11308+,Y6075-

273754 Klaas Berkhout NLD YSEQ A11308+

145475 Sergiy Melnyk UKR BigY Z16981+Z17082+,2189513+,A11308+,Y6075-,Y6077-

129991 Janusz Michiejew RUS (grouped by STR structure)

Group-2.3.: N-Z16981> Z17082>Z16980>Y11882+

This subclade branch is shows by YFull and N-SNP-Pack compares it.

FTDNA’s browser doesn’t show this mutation Y11882+ (C to T) pos.2960040 for any BigY tested.

All four results have STR DYS413=21-21 might correlate this SNP.

2.3. N-Z16981>Z17082>Z16980>Y11882+ (2200-1100 ybp)

189221 Ovetchkine Andrei UKR BigY YF02592 Z16981+,Z17082+,Z16980+Y11882+,(CTS8173-),FGC13512-,Z17078-

N106336 J L Meshkin LTU Z16981+,Z16980+,Y11882+,Y6075-

146476 Sabis LTU Z16981+,Z16980+,Y11882+,Y6075-

311099 Florin Burca MDA Z16981+,Z16980+,Y11882+,Y6075-

Group-2.3.1.: N-Z16981> Z17082>Z16980>Y11882>Y24601+

SNP Y24601 (A to C) pos.16087568 is only shaded for these two members

2.3.1. N-Z16981>Z17082>Z16980>Y11882>Y24601+ (1950-700 ybp)

150343 Ivars Steinblums LVA BigY YF02765 Z16981+,Z17082+,Z16980+,CTS8173+,Y11882+,FGC13512-,Z17078-

B2516 John Bauers LVA BigY YF07003 Z16981+,Z17082+,Z16980+,Y11882+,Y15922-,FGC13512-,Y6075-,L709-

Group-2.4.1. : N-Z16981>Z17082>Z16980>Y15922 > pos.13665010+

SNP Y15922 is not the terminal SNP of anyone.

4 BigY results (+ 2 the same level results) share Novel SNP Y15922 (T to C). Pos.17019899, and

sample #374070 has stable Novel SNP pos.13665010 (T to C) as terminal.

YFull’s STR variants: DYS522=13.

2.4.1. N-Z16981>Z17082>Z16980>Y15922>pos.13665010+ (2700-1400 ybp)

374070 Jouko Ritsilä FIN BigY YF03591 Z16981+,Z17082+,CTS8173+,15922+,13665010+,Z35237-,Y6075-

Group-2.4.1.1. : N-Z16981>Z17082>Z16980>Y15922 >pos.13665010>Z35237+

Group-2.4.2: N-Z16981>Z17082>Z16980>Y15922>Y16847+

Y16847 seems to correlate unusual STR DYS385=11-11-14, but also usual 11-14 is possible.

YFull’s STR variants: DYS635=24,DYS710=38.2

2.4.2. N-Z16981>Z17082>Z16980>Y15922>Y16847+ (2300-950 ybp)

N74880 Darius Savolskis LTU YSEQ Z16981+,Z16980+,Y15922+,Y17242+,Y6075-,Y11882-

Group-2.4.2.1: N-Z16981>Z17082>Z16980>Y15922>Y16847>Y22098+

Two BigY tested samples #175141 and #349819 are close relatives (TMRCA 50 years), and

share 7 Novels SNPs, Y22098 po.17512705 (G to A) is one of them.

Sample #356820 is just Z16981+ tested, but still placed to this group by similar STR/37

structure as well #220739, Z16980+ tested.

2.4.2.1. N-Z16981>Z17082>CZ16980>Y15922>Y16847>Y22098+ (200-50 ybp)

175141 Georg Dunkel POL BigY YF01792 Z16981+,Z17082+,Z16980+,CTS8173+,Y15922+,Y16847+,Y22098+,A7071-

349819 Tuukka Dunkel POL BigY YF05808 Z16981+,Z17082+,Z16980+,CTS8173+,Y15922+,Y16847+Y22098+,A7071-

175032 Leo Dunkel POL (grouped by identic STR/67)

309472 Eugen Dunkel POL (grouped by identic STR/67)

356820 Douglas Kirks LVA YSEQ Z16981+,Y16847+,(Y22098+ assumed by DYS385)

220739 Ramiel Gilmanov RUS Y16980+ (Y22098+ assumed by DYS385)

2.4.1.1. N-Z16981>Z17082>Z16980>Y15922>pos.13665010>Z35237+

176395 Jonas Evaltas LTU BigY Z16981+,Z17082+,15922+,13665010+,Z35237+,Y16847-,Y6075-

GS17210-ASM Est2/Gouge EST EBC Z16981+,Z17082+,Z16980+,15922+,13665010+,Z35237+,Y16847-

GS16907-ASM Est11/Voru EST EBC Z17082+,CTS8173+,Z16980+,15922+,13665010+,Z35237+,Y16847-

Group-2.4.2.2. : N-Z16981>Z17082>Z16980>Y15922>Y16847>A7071+

A7071+ and A7067+ are experimental Novel SNPs with two BigY results and YSEQ tested:

2.4.2.2. N-Z16981>Z17082>Z16980>Y15922>Y16847>A7071+

205859 Harold Lassman LAT YSEQ Z16981+,CTS8173+,Y15922+,YFS195242+,A7071+,A7067+,Y6075-,FGC13512-

355370 Sami Kiuru FIN BigY YF04028 Z16981+,Z17082+,Z16980+,CTS8173+,Y15922+,Y16847+,A7071+,Y6075-

? John Strauchs ? BigY Z16980+,Y16847+,A7071+,A7067+

352568 Kuortti FIN (grouped by close YDNA match)

Group-2.5.: N-Z16981>Z17082>Z16980>Y6075+

6 samples found so far, who have N-Y6075 as terminal SNP.

2.5. N-Z16981>Z17082>Z16980>Y6075+ (3000-1550 ybp)

265075 Zdenek Blahnik CZE BigY YF03194? Z16981+,Z17082+,Z16980+,Y6075+,Y6077-,Y6076-

170521 Karel Riha CZE YSEQ Z16981+, Z16980+,CTS8173+,Y6075+,Z17079-

217703 anc. A. Hart IRL Z16981+,Z16980+,Y6075*,Y6077-,Y11882-

323299 Jaromir Soltys CZE Z16981+,Z16980+,Y6075*,Y6077-,Y11882-

N10725 Brian Bonkowski POL Z16981+,Z16980+,Y6075*,Y6077-,Y11882-

B44714 Philip Bartok HUN YSEQ Y6075+,Y6077-,Y15922-

Group-2.5.1.: N-Z16981>Z17082>Z16980>Y6075>Z17079/Y6077+

2.5.1. N-Z16981>Z17082>Z16980>Y6075>Z17079/Y6077+ (3000-1550 ybp)

238251 Leonard Yencharis LTU Z16981+,Z16980+,Y6075+,Y6077+,Y6076-

265510 anonymous HUN Z16981+,16980+,Y6075+,Y6077+

Group-2.5.1.1.: N-Z16981>Z17082>Z16980>Y6075>Z17079/Y6077>pos.14657210+

these samples share 7 Novel SNPs to new genetic branch:

2.5.1.1. N-Z16981>Z17082>Z16980>Y6075>Z17079/Y6077>pos.14657210+

285785 John Hudock SVK BigY YF03030 Z16981+,Z17082+,Z16980+,CTS8173+,Y6075+,Y6077*,Y6067-

? John Madaras ? BigY Z16981+,Z17082+,Z16980+,CTS8173+,Y6075+,Y6077+

? Michael Madaras ? BigY Z16981+,Z17082+,Z16980+,CTS8173+,Y6075+,Y6077+

Group-2.5.2: N-Z16981>Z17082>Z16980>Y6075>Y6077>Y6076+

For 3 results, #113315, #B3032 and #162926 this SNP N-Y6076 is the terminal SNP.

2.5.2. N-Z16981>Z17082>Z16980>Y6075>Y6077>Y6076+ (3000-1550 ybp)

113315 anonymous SVK Z16981+,Z16980+Y6075+,Y6077+,Y6076+,Y11882-

B3032 Kolakowski POL Z16981+,Z16980+,CTS8173+,Y6075+,Y6077+,Y6076+,Y11882+

162926 Josef Macskay ROU Z16981+,Z16980+,Y6075+Y6077+,Y6076+

Group-2.5.2.1. : N-Z16981 >Z17082>Z16980>Y6075>Y6077>Y6076>Y20340+

2 results, share this novel variant SNP pos.15053914 (A to T):

2.5.2.1. N-Z16981>Z17082>Z16980>Y6075>Y6077>Y6076>Y20340+ (1400-400 ybp)

N6569 Scott Leonard POL BigY YF01751 Z16981+,Z17082+,Z16980+,CTS8173+,Z17077+,Y6076*,14827954-

N78722 Paszkot POL BigY Z16981+,Z17082+,Y6077+,Y6076*,14827954-

Group-2.5.2.2. : N-Z16981>Z17082>Z16980>Y6075>Y6077>Y6076>Y17696+

Close relatives #173936,#190630 have unusual DYS385b=13, looks as reverse mutation 14>13.

2.5.2.2. N-Z16981>Z17082>Z16980>Y6075>Y6077>Y6076>Y17696+ (3000-1550 ybp)

173936 anc. B.Hilinski POL Z16981+,Z16980+Y6075+,Y6077+,Y6076+,Y11882-

190630 Slawomir Chylinski POL BigY Z16981+,Z17082+,Z16980+,Y6075+,Y6077+,Y6076+,Y17696+,Y17420-

165567 Mike Prohaska CZE BigY Z16981+,Z17082+,Y6075+,Y6077+,Y6076+,Y17696+,Y17420-

N117253 Tony Swiecicki POL Z16981+, Z16980+, (assumed Y17696+)

459839 George Dibel SVK YSEQ Z16981+,Z16980+,Y6075+Y6077+,Y6076+,Y17696+,Y17420-

Group-2.5.2.2.1.: N-Z16981 >Z17082>Z16980>Y6075>Y6077>Y6076>Y17696>Y17420+

2.5.2.2.1. N-Z16981>Z17082>Z16980>Y6075>Y60077>Y6076>Y17696>Y17420* (1750-600 ybp)

B2967 Peter Czora DEU BigY YF02014 Z16981+,Z17082+,Z16980+,CTS8173+,Y6077+,Y6076+,Y17696+,Y17420+

Group-2.5.2.2.1.1.: N-Z16981>Z17082>Z16980>Y6075>Y6077>Y6076>Y17696>Y17420>Y17418+

Two very close relatives share this novel variant:

2.5.2.2.1.1. N-Z16981>Z17082>Z16980>Y6075>Y60077>Y6076>Y17696>Y17420>Y17418+ (200-50 ybp)

222016 Wilbur Krenek CZE BigY YF04193 Z16981+,Z17082+,Z16980+,Y6077+,Y6076+,Y17696+,Y17420+,Y17418+

149750 Richard Krenek CZE BigY YF04192 Z16981+,Z17082+,Z16980+,Y6077+,Y6076+,Y17696+,Y17420+,Y17418+

STR Markers

29 of 111 markers correlate 100% for Baltic Z16981, so they are more than 2600 years old.

DYS426=11, DYS454=12, DYS437=14, DYS448=19, DYS438=10, DYS531=11, DYS578=8, DYS537=8,

YS641=10, DYS472=8, DYS425=12 ,DYS436=12, DYS450=7, DYS487=10, DYS492=12, DYS565=11,

DYS485=15, DYS717=19, DYS494=9, DYS636=12, , DYS445=12, DYS593=15, DYS561=14, DYS726=12,

DYS497=13, DYS434=8, DYS461=12, DYS435=11

These SNPs are shared also Lithuanians branches downstream from M2783 except branch BY158+

DYS445 variability.

Some STR markers looks very private like DYS393=12, DYS388=14, DYS459b=10, YCAII=18-

18, DYS590=6, DYS594=11, DYS490=13, DYS617=13, DYS640=12, DYS632=9, DYS716=28,

DYS549=10, DYS533=12, DYS495=15, DYS575=12, DYS638=11, DYS463=19, Y-GGAAT-

1B07=10, DYS525=11.

These markers are also assumed older than 2600 years, but listed alleles are young, just a few

hundred years.

Fluxus STR analyzes

Next diagram is made by STR67 markers and subclade SNPs of N-Z16981+.

Main weight is placed to SNPs and STR weight is calculated from Baltic Z16981 frequency of

changes.

The results looks a little bit complicated, because during 2600 years STR markers are changed

much and so count of vectors is huge. But still subclades (different colors) forms clear to

homogeneous areas. All yellow samples are not tested to the end, so maybe this gives an

indication.

The Grouping in graphical form:

The branch of Baltic Z16981 starts from N-M2783 and the basic SNP is Z16981+.

The 77 results clearly prove that the SNP N-Z16981 (C to G) pos.2385649 is the identification for

these Balts.

This grouping has the same structure as ISOGG and YFull’s N-Tree, adding with found new genetic

branches, (green colored points).

More details can find in my BigY Novel Variants comparison:

http://www.kolumbus.fi/geodun/YDNA/BIG-Y-novel-WB-FIN.xls

STR-499 Markers comparison of Baltic Z16981:

http://www.kolumbus.fi/geodun/YDNA/STR-499.xlsx

Georg Dunkel

Baltic N-Z16981+ Project