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INFORMATION CONCERNING

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~ c a l l y contacted this office on con· · l lnr-information he furnished to the FBI and Secret ( .. f

Service regarding the assassi ation of President JOHN r. · · ·

KENNEDY. He said the materi he furnished to these · · .government agencies in conf ence now appears in the cap-tioned book written by E. 1 : ·

He characterize himself as a gambler and asports promoter widely acquainted with individuals in

these f ields. There is attached a document which furnishesmore detai ls concerning his arrests and his background,but he 1 CQQ Riderf a confidence man by personnel whohave interviewed h • ' ' ' .. -· • • • ·• . .

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was interviewed while he was an inmate atthe Federa rectional Insti tut ion, Terminal Island,California, by SA WILLIAM JOHN NOLAN of this office andSAC GUY H. SPAMAN of S e c ~ e t S ~ v i c e . This interview wasconducted on 11/30/63 a t J H A L L ' ~ r e q u e s t , and he adviseda t that time that his reason· for contacting law enforcement

~ s that he desired t ~ ~ ~ e t c ~ ~ ~ , . ~ : ' R t ~ 3 1 n s l J ~ t u T i ~ n ~ n d . a f a3 1 ~ Bureau Encla. 5) :.. ; : . , rt $ ~ ~ / J t / L _. _ . · ~ ~ ._ .~ l f 1 Los Angeles ll t:6 · = ? ~

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wanted some assurance of this fact before he gave intor- • .mation. No assurance was given him and he furnishedinformation concerning his association with JACK RUBY nand around Dallas, Texas, in t h ~ a r l y ~ S O s . Attachedis one copy of the FD-302 d a t e d L ~ l / 3 0 / 6 ; u s e t t i n g forththe results of this information. A summary of thismaterial was furnished to the Bureau immediately b te le-

type dated 12/1/63 directed to Bureau f i le 44-240lo, capt ioned, JACK L. RUBY, aka; LEE H RVEY OSWALD - Victim,Deceased, CR." A copy of this teletype is also attached.

. . / ~ L J a d v i s e d that although he furnished thei n f o r m a t ~ n t the FBI and .Secret Service confidentially,·pertinent details of this gambling scheme Oflerated in Dallas

now appears in the book, "Rush to Judgment.

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As will be .noted f r o ~ t ~ a t t a c h e d material, the information was furnished byL»ALb n hopes of being released from the Correc-

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t ional Inst i ion and he made no request that this materialnot be disseminated. SA NOLAN also advised that no requestwas made that dissemination not be made of this material.

· There . is attached one copy of p ges 2 3 7 ~ n d ~ 8r the captioned book which sets forth briefly howJHALLl

ran a b e t - ~ d - n swindle in Dallas, using the n a m ~ R R ~SINCLAIR, JR. &imil,Ar_ 'q the information he furnished FBIand Secret e r v i c e . ~ H A ~ d i d not advise of the scheme thatwhen he los t he wrote a worthless check and l e f t town. As

will be noted, the information in the book indicates thisinformation was furnished to Secret Service Agents and notthe FBI.

/ ~ \ ~ c o n t e n d s that . this disclosure of his schemenow jeopardizes his l i fe as the gamblers in Dallas, whomhe bilked, know his true identi ty and may take re ta l ia-

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. { . ~ L ~ s t a t e d that although the book does n o ~ _ m e ~t i o ~ ~ ~ F I as having received this i n f o r m a t i o n ~ o ~ H A L Lh e ~ ~ contacted the Secret Service but refused to i entifythe person contacted and Secret S e r v ~ denied making thismaterial available to M RK L A N E . ~ A says he therefore

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FBI did not make this information a v a i l l b l ~ t o M RKL NE and that the f i les of the FBI are confidential,

~ s e d upon the ruling of the U. S. Attorney General.

an a t t o ~ ~ · : ~ ~ ~ s ~ ~ r h : J ~ g e ~ ~ 1 = ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ a ~ ~ ~ gdisclosing this information to M RK LANE.

· As was previously indicated, fii ALT1is well knownas a confidence man and is considered ~ ~ o s e who havecontacted him as an opportunist and will seize upon anyopportunity to benefit financially or any other way. For

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l)JAL (<:=onceming this matter would p l a y ~ .into his hand andmay give- him an indication that he has some credence in hiscomplaint. Since the book attr ibutes this information asbeing told to Secret Service and in no way involves the •FBI, t is recommended that no further action be taken.No dissemination of this material was made by the LoaAngeles Division outside of the FBI Offices. Those officesreceiving copies of this were enumerated to the Bureau bya i r te l dated 1 2 5 6 ~ ~ o p y attached).

The above i s furnished for the Bureau s informat ion in the event some contact is made at the Seat t .Government. The Bureau will be kept advised of any t u ~ h e rdevelopments at this point.

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On November 11, 1963 HARRY HALL, an inmate a t theFederal Correctional Inst i tut ion (FCI), Terminal Is land ,California, was contacted in view of his request to the

Secret Service a t Los Angeles, California on November 29, 1963tha t he be contacted inasmuch as he f e l t he had informationof value concerning JACK RUBY of Dallas, Texas . Present a tthe interview was Special Agent in Charge GUY H. SPAMAN ofthe Secret Service, Los fu1geles, California .

HALL advised tha t his reason for contacting lawenforcement was that he desired to get out of FCI and beforehe gave any information, he wanted some assurance of th isfact . ·

HALL was advised tha t no such assurances couldbe given to him and i f he had information t should be gi vento the FBI inunediately in view of the f a ct that to concealvaluable information would in effect be obstructing thecurrent investigation with regard to JACK RUBY. HALL was

- advised that tne fact that he did furnish information wouldbe · made kriovm to the U.S . Attorney a t Lo s Angeles for\'lhatever consideration he might wish to grant to such anact on the part of HALL. He was defin i t e ly advised tha t nopromises of any kind could -be made to him in _this regard.

HALL advised that in about the l a t ter part of1952 or the eaJ. ly part of 1953 he f i r s t met JACK RUBY a tDallas, Texa.s. HALL was introduced to RUBY by· his, F..ALL s ,

uncle t-1ARTY /FIELD, whose rea l name is f·1ARTY ,SCH\ lARTZ andwho is ·currently a dealer a t the Sands Hotel, Las Vegas,Nevada. HALL advised that a t tha t time JACK RUBY wasoperating a club, the name of which HALL could not reca l l ,but he advised that i t lool,ed sort of l ike a shed of somekind and was located in a ra ther run down neighborhood andRUBY charged admission to get into th i s part icular club.

HALL advised that following h i s introduction toRUBY, he became fr iendly with him inasmuch as he HALL, wasbusy acting as a promoter a t tha t time and JACK RUBY hada Negro entertainer in connection with whom he asked HALL

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to see i he could get him a spot on the Ed Sul l ivan TVSh0\·1 HALL advised tha t he never followed through on hispromise to RUBY in this regard.

HALL noted tha t in connection l'lith his associat ion

'\'lith RUBY RUBY apparent ly had two places of res idence, oneof which \'las quite pretent ious and \'Ihere TIUBY l ived alone.The e:ther residence '\•rhich HALL also vis i ted , '\'lhich would beabou·:; 1953, was no ·; neal lY as elaborate a ~ ; ; the f i r s t one,but '.la.s a place \ l h ~ ~ e RUBY apparent ly lcept his f i l e s andrecords . HALL advi8ed tha t a t one time he went with RUBYt o th i s par t icu la r domicile and RUBY piclced up a manila

envelope and took it \·r i th him to his c lub. HAU- notedtha t during th:i.s period, RUBY had a gtm l>Tith him a t a l l t imes.HALL advised tha t he has no par t icu la r k nov:ledge of weaponsand could only ident i fy the weapon tha t he saw n RUBY 1 s

g o s s e s s i o n ~ t ~ h time as a long-barreled gun.

HALL advised tha t a t th is time in the Dallas areahe, HALL had a good thing going. He ha d gone to Dallasand was ut i l iz ing th,e name I A . . B f t X - ~ J ~ Q . 1 . ~ J ~ and uponhis a r r iva l in Dalla?., he h a ~ contacted a .t>1eallhy individualby the name of D I C K 1 ~ 1 I D R A D E , whose baclcground HALL lcnewfrom contacts tha t TIALL had in Los Angelen HALL posing ·as a member of a \'lealthy oi l family, l'ras able to str•ike ·up an associat ion with ANDRADE and tlu ough him \ as able togo to the Petroleum Club in the Balcer Hotel , Dallas , Texas.HALL advised tha t he developed th is associa t ion because ofthe fac t tha t ANDRADE had a reputa t ion as a heavy be t to rand through his associa t ion with N D P ~ D E he was able to beintroduced and vouched for to ~ I D R D E • s bookmaking source a tMontreal, Canada. This then enabled HALL to place extremelylarge bets without ut i l i z ing any money.

HALL advised tha t he took JACK RUBY as his guestto the Petroleum Club on one occasion and explained h is se tup to RUBY which impressed RUBY very much. RUBY when he

leal ned of the scheme tha t HALL was employing, asked to becut in on it t e l l ing HALL tha t as a 11 Jew 11 he would haveno chance a t a l l in Dallas i he were arres ted. RUBY

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however, according to HALL claimed tha t he , RUBY a t thattime had plenty of juice going with the Dallas PoliceDepartment and could take care of any squav:lcs that mightcome up from HALL s operation. HALL advised that he cutRUBY in on a 60-40 spl i t \ lith RUBY providing a bank ro l lof s0me several thousand dollars that could be ut i l izedto f lash around n the presence of DICK ANDRADE .

HALL advised further tha t in connection with DICKANDRADE R L ~ Y advised h ~ n tha t he could Get a ~ o u p l e ofguys from Chicugo and they could set AliDRADE up whichwould mean a good score for a l l of them. HALL claims tha t

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s offer in th i s regard .

HALL advised tha t a t a la te r ne he again was nthe Dallas area and stopped in to see RUBY and he.wasadvised by a ·gir l in RUBY 1 s club that RUBY was in Chicago.The gir l gave HALL a telephone nu.rnber where RUBY could bereached, but HAIJ. does not have th is number now.

HALL advised tha t he called RUBY a t th is number,l·lhich was a store sellin[; off-brand merchandise and l ocatedon the west side of North State Street about a half blocksouth of Grand in Chicago. HALL advised that the individualwho ran this store, whose name he did not reca l l had in

addition to the material tha t \ laS on the shel Jes in front ,guns for sale to those individuals desiring them. Thisindividual also had a bl oth er who was an ex- con and who,according to HALL as running a similar shop some time l a s tyear, also n C h i c a ~ o In talking with RUBY a t th is store ,HALL advised tha t RUBY told -him he v:as buying some 11 schloclc

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t-lhich term HALL defined as a bunch of off-brand junk. Headvised further that a t th is time RUBY \ laS also .engaged inthe Dallas area n handling gambling action.

I t was a t th is point n the interview that HALLadvised that during his association with RUBY over a period

of some three years off and on, he became well acquaintedwith the fact that RUBY \ las greatly addicted to fr ied chicken •

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He advised fill"ther tha t the original spot tha t he reca l ledbeing operated by RUBY sold f r ied chicken in a box. Hes ta ted tha t th is point ca:r.1e to mind when he saw nel;scoverage re f lec t ing tha t the spot allegedly ut i l ized bylliE F A R ~ Y QSWA L Q for his assassinat ion of the President

·---6r "'tne· tL s. had had chicken remains l e f t behind.

HALL advised tha t followin g his o r iGina l in t roduct ion,, he \'l8.S \'lith JACK RUBY for a period of four months s t ra ight

and RUBY was a hJays ra i s ing some issue about what kind of a.., .. , score they could mal\:e.

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HALL advised tha t some timein the period between 1953 and Apri l , 1955, he recal ledthat while he was a t the Petroleum l u b ~ JACK RliDYproposi t ioned HALL l l i th a deal concernin?. H. L. HUNT.According to -RUBY.; H1fl .JT had a son named HASSIE 11

, which \ lasnot generally lcnovm and \ tho a t tha t time lias located inConcord, J'.1assachuset'cs. RUBY wanted to lay a t rap fo r_H•..L.

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HUNT through HASSlE t : t il zing a scheme where HALL wouldpose as a doctor . HALL advised tha t thi::; deal fe l l throughfor some reason -v:hich he could not reca l l .

HALL also ad\rised t hat he and Jf· CK RUBY teamedup a t tha t period when HALL was posing as HAR.."qY SINCLAIR_,

JR. and beat some gamblers in Dalla::;, Texas for some$70,000 to 80,000, \ Jhich they sp l i t 60-ltO to HALL and RUBYrespect ively .

HALL advised tha t in order t6 build up his f ron t· he \•tent in to Nieman-rl arcus a t Dallas \ 'lith RUBY and bought

a thousand dol lars worth of clothes , \ ~ i c h he paid for bycheck issued n the name of HARRY SINCLAIR, JR. v ith hisnew wardrobe, HALL \ Tas able to contact those \ lho had beentalcen by him and RUBY and secured e n o u ~ h cash to go backto the ·department s tore the same date and re t r ieve the checkbefore t was deposi ted.

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H.Al.L also reca l l ed tha t he v ent to J1idland,Texas and stayed a t a hote l \'Those name he reca l l ed as theSharborough (phonetic ) ~ l i t h JACK RUBY_, at; ~ ~ h i h t i li1e henoticed tha t JACK RUBY had four guns with him. HALL a tt ha t time was s t i l l ut i l i z ing the name SINCLAIR.

He advised tha t the t r i p to I1idland, Texas wasin co "'J..nection with the scheme to get the 7 0 0 0 0 or$8o,CJCC) mentioned above •

Going baclc to DICK ANDRADE, Hi\.LL a dv ised tha tover a period of some months he and RUBY, ut i l i z ing

ANDRADE s bet t ing contact a t Mont:i.."'eal, \'Jere able to bui ldup a $5,000 cred i t I t \•las agreed tha t he anG RUBY wouldgo to Montreal to col lec t and he recal led tha t he HALL,proceeded to l\1ont:::-eal and J A C I ~ RUBY stopped off a t · Chicago.HALL recal led tha t he v1as paid off by an ind iv i dual namedGORDON ·a t Montreal and a l so tre t he, H.t\LL, on severaloccasions while staying in Montreal contacted RUBY a t thes to re previously mentioned, located on State Street inChicago. HALL advised tha t he was a ble throu$h good be t t inga t l1ontreal to bui ld up the $5,000 to almost ~ 2 0 0 0 0 andhe proceeded from Ivlontreal and met J ACK RUBY a t the DevonshireHotel located on Ohio Stree t in Chicacso. He advised t ha t acouple named OLLIE and PETE (LNU) were operating the hotel

a t tha t t ime.

In connection \<Vith th i s par t icu la r t ime he advisedtha t he sp l i t the \'linnings with JACK Rffi}Y and ori one occasionh e went \'lith RUBY to v i s i t a jo in t run by BUZZY./ RIVKIN . Hea lso reca l l s a t tha t time tha t JACK RU BY me f WJ.th one DAVE11 DIN GY

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HALPER, also of Chicago, and thinks th it th i smeeting took place a t the club run by BUZZY R I - ~ C I N .

HALL a t t h i s t ime corl"'ectcd hiraself by adv is ingt ha t he believed tha t RUBY met him a t the Devonshire Hotel ,but was actual ly staying a t the Croydon. HALL advised tha t

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HAI.JJ advised tha t follo\ 'ling t l1i s v i s i t to Chicago,he end RUBY flew to Oklahoma City where they l .. egis te reda t the Biltmore Hotel under the name HARI\Y SIHCLAIR, JR.They stayed thei 'e a couple of days and rented a car andvis i ted the bi r th place of WILL ROGERS. He rememberedt ha t ~ h e r e \>:as a crap game running in tha t tO\ m tha t RUBYlcrlew nbout and bet·Neen them, they took abou t $2,000 fromthe s ~ n b l e r s there . HALL recal led tha t they won th i s

m o n e ~ chrough some sor t of a scheme. He clso reca l l ed

there v ~ r e otner games a t Shreveport , Louis iana followingth i s v i s i t to Oklahoma where JACK RUBY played gin rumrnyand l os t quite a b i t of money and gaye the guy a check.

HALL reca l l s tha t op another occasion he \ ' laS

staying a t the Dallas Athlet:J.b Club ut i l iz ing the name ofSINCLAIR,as a guest of i3UDDY1FOGELSON and DICK AN.DRADE.He advised tha t . a l l the e x p ~ h s e s for both he and RUBY ont .his o'ccasion were paid for /by e i the r FOGELSON or ANDRADE.He advised tha t they \•;ere there for a period of some t\ JOor three days and \>Jere entertained by two gi r l s \ lho vreremodels from Nieman-Harcus \ lho had been introduced to themby ANDRADE. He recal led tha t he, HALL, gave them $300 apiece ·and that JACK RuDY in a f i t of temper had h i t oneo f the gi r l s .

In reca l l ing some { his contacts l-Yith RUBY,HALL advised tha t some t ime in about 1954 or jus t p r io r tohis going to j a i l in Cali forn ia in Ap:::>il, 1955, JACK RUBYhad gone to San Frru1cisco and was going to see him on hisway back to Dallas. He reca l l s tha t RUBY in going to SanFrancisco, \ las going to see one : t STONEY 11 a good fl iend of

MARTY FIELD, HALL s uncle. He advised tha t STONEY was abookmaker, well knm-m in the San Francisco area and wasalso engaged in meetinG boats a t the docl:s to buy varioussmuggled goods from the s .eamen. Also he reca l l ed tha t JACKRUBY in the San Francisco area was in conta c·t with e i the rl}E Q .Q:$ or SALLJJ;: fscHUMA N _ bout some\ deal \'lhich HALL did notlcnow about. He t1dvised tha t HECKIE/\SCHUNAN is a well-known

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Another- incident concerning RUBY concerned

one BILL1BYERS a friend of ANDRADE 1s BYERS usually

played gin rummy a t the Petroleum Club in Dallas and thinkingHALL w a ~ a \·mal thy oilman himself, gave HALL a piece of hisaction in playing gin rurmny to the amount of 25 percent ofthe ".;innings •

HALL r ecalled that when RUBY v i ~ i t e d him inLos A ~ g e l e s he made a proposition to HALL that BYERSusually carr ie d from $40,000 to $50,000 around with him a ta l l times and i f HALL could come up with info: 'mation shov1inghe was making a t r ip any\-Jhere alone, i f HALL would pass the

information along to RUBY RUBY had a couple of guys Vihowould hi t BYERS and spl i t the proceeds 50-50. HALL said heagreed to th is deal, but his prison term in 1955 .in terfered.However, he heard l a te r tha t BYERS h ~ d been he ld up or .

--burglarized ·a · few yem"'s l a te r while staying at the DelCharro a t Del J.iar, Califol nia •

He also r ecal led a deal which concerned aNev1 Years Day when he, HALL went to Fort vJorth, Texasand posing a s . . m ; ? . _ l : . . l j . ~ X JR., had contacted H. L HUNT andbet him $1,000 on f i ve different bo·wl games. He adv ised·that RUBY was in this scam with him and tha t he, HALL\ Ton a l l five games. He advised that he does not reca l l

the exact year, but two of the games tha t he does reca l lare Texas-Tennessee in the Cotton Bat·ll and rlichiganCalifornia in the Rose Boul. He advi sed tha t they col lected$5,000 from HUNT which they spl i t 60-40.

HALL advised tha t ·he has not ha.d any directcontact with JACK RUBY since about 1955 , although he vis i tedthe Carousel Club l a s t year while n Dallas and was surprisedto see the prosperity tha t was surrounding RUBY since hehad previously seen him. RUBY a t that t L ~ e however, wasnot in town and HALL did not see him • .

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contacts and knouledge of RUBY th t RUBY had some strongmotivation for his shooting of LEE HARVEY OS\ lALD and tha tthe only motivation that he HALL could at t r ibute to RU Y

t·;as money or the fear tha t OSWALD possibly might involveRUBY in the assassination of the President of the u. S.He admitted th is was p t ~ speculation on his par t and madethe offer that he would be willing to go to Dallas Texasand meet RUBY and \lias sui e tha t from such a meeting thath could learn from RUBY \ lhat motivated him to shoot andki l l OSWALD.

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ISLAND CALIFORNIMARTY;riELD LAS V E G A ~ ,

..I N T E R V I E W E D T O D A Y BY SAS . OHN R . KINSINGER AND JOSEPH A. MURRAY• •

M A R T Y FIELD /TRUE NAME/ ADVISED RAISED SAME NEIGHBORHOOD AS JACK RUBY... -,....

· IN CHICAGO. KNEW RUBY AS YOUNG BOY AND THEN MOVED FROM......._: . .

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13'Jers had. Hall said he did not t through \'lith th i s deal but he heard

ttmt ~ e 1 s \h s r o56e"d u HS:l e a t - : t C r r c r r r : o f e l : : - : r a - s o cali l.'OriU.a.h · ac Iii Hareti - . . : . r · g«e ? ' W p E L · ISO u . · · · - . . - , . , ~ .... · - ~ . -. , ,

Hall fur ther s ta ted tha t some time d u r i ~ h i s period, H h i ~ e he •.•/sgoing .under the name of Harry Sincla ir , Jr . or Ed ~ u l e y , Jr . he t u ~ t H I a . ; ; ; ~ + anotherTexas millio:-:" ; tha t he and Rub:v bet Hunt on the Cot on Bo1·rl - and Hose Boul

games, \·rinnii .g a la rge s1n of money from Hunt, which they sp l i t .-Ha:tystated t h ~ ~ ~ ~ d u r i n g th i s

uby cqntinued to fan ~ d ~ c i s c o , \·There"Solly" or "Heck:..-" Schu.' Jan on sone

a c k e ~ e e r s g a ~ o l e r s in San Francisc •

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. Hall fur ther s tated that he Has acquainted >.fith one Eugenia Elson, who i s aa t the Beverly 1i l i lshire Hotel, Los Angeles. He said she has a son,

\•rho i s 8 or 9 years old. She was born in Hussia and formerly l ived in

allas, being mar-ried to a Heal hy Dallas man ofhom she has since divorced. Hall

s ta ted tha t th i s 1·10l il<J.n, he b-3lieved , had sor.te Hussian fr iends in Dallas. He saide kne1·1 of no connection bet\·Teen her and Huby.

Hall sta ted tha t he ~ m s sentenced to State :Reformatory, Chino, California ,in 1955 for checks, being re leased n 1956. He said a l l of the above in fomation

related to events be.fore tha t time; tha t he . had no dealings or no contact ' ·r i thRuby since 1955. However, he s ta ted tha t he lias close enough to Ruby so tha t i f

e •·rere permit ted to ta lk to Ruby he believed he could pe rsuade him to t e l l the

SA Knowland stirtcd tha t the information he secured a t th i s joint quest ioning

f Hall \ iOuld be t e le t yped to the i r Dallas Off ice .

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Los Anple• otttee, eoutende diii ICloaure ot bla lr&tabling cc:hoJieai l l th Mark Lane book aow jeopardis< • b1• l i te as g1111blcr• 1aDallas, whoa be bilked, aow kaow b.t• true ldenti tJ and aa7 take

re ta l ia tor , acttoa, to• Angele• and Dalla• 1-.odiatelJ advisea p ~ ~ p r 1 ~ • local pollee of11e1ala • • well as Secret 8orv1ceofL.Ball'•Jfear• that ·h1• l i t e ••7 uow be ia jcopardJ.

· }Jrnrry ·r r a n \·wself'.:.·s ty le ~ a m ,j has l l l e ~ c d ..fnforrrtation he f n r n : f . ~ J ~ F:_x ~ n ~ l - G ~ c l · ( ' t .· · · ; :crv1co in lf-63 nl,ot t h t s c o n t a c t ~ . \7:ttb JncJ: n.ur.y· J1an t t ~ '

~ P l e a : t · c d :f.n tho f ~ r ~ r , n n ~ hoo :, "Httt.ih to Jqd:;l.tent." 1 J . . ~ : - . W · ·· ~ o n t e m l s tl ,i .c : - ~ c l o s u 1 · ~ jcopnrdi7.c::; hin J.:tfc nr.: ~ " t t i > . 1 . - : : r : : : tu l

. \ L t 1 1 . : ~ ( 1 iu Dnllns now ·Jmow hi:; t r u ~ i<lcnti ty nnd- ' ' ' " ~ t , . . ~ ~ ' · · \ "Otnli :rtory ac t ion . tic f ' t : ' t c ~ he ir. c o n c ; : . L ( . t • n ~ i n ~ ~ t d n G the

~ o v c r r u n c n t fo r discloor.1ro of tho inforrrJnt;on to L ~ n e • .. :. ·

~ · . • • .it was c lea r ly p o ~ n t c d out t o / J t n ~ ; , y ~ ~ 1 ( ' j ~ ~ ./mcrc.l c sOffice t b Y . ~ the FDI did not mnJte t h io informntion avni lahlc toT j ~ n c . /_t nl s t ~ t e d he contac ted Cccrct :3crvicc, which nlno c l ~ n i c dlu rn i :-hina... the in::orr.mtion· to Lane nnd he thcre = orc ' ' , I ~ ~ r J . r : G " ' ":It; :.w e out the informntion. Informnt.:f.O t rccc ivcd f r o r ~ T f . . , . , , -:.rC'.C

Iurnishod durinc an intcrvim't conducted n t h i s rcqur;:c.t on l l / ~ O / G 3 .· ·· lnnllA n i t i n l l y . contnctcd :Jecret Ccrvice , which in tu rnr e q u e s t e d ' " ' C u r e l ~ Acent be p r c ~ n ~ t a t intervie\1 ao FIJI had mostrecent contact ( in l JG3) ' JUh til. and he wns confined as r e s u l to f nn FDI invest icrnt ion. l ln l l ' s tn ted rcnzon for furnishincrinformatiOU 'W:lS tO Obtain hiG rc COCC j nO CUCh : l C . 5 1 ~ ~ n C C \ 7 ~ 0 cr iVCl l j

he did not r e q u ~ r : ; t inform:: tion not be d i m ~ c m i n n t c d ; intervic\7incr ; ~ n t hns n<lvi:;-::d no 1•cqucr.t '"'ns ra1:1dc thn t it not I.Jc clisr:-..cminntcd •

j ~ n e ' s hoo : rc:ZlcctslnniiL:;avc c e r t ; o ~ i t ~ i n . ~ m · • M ~ t i o ~ l to~ ~ ~ t Gcrvit:': nnu < ~ o ~ ~ not mcntj on FI:I. J j ~ m c c i t ~ : : ; ~ · ; : ; h i h l t 175:-:(n ~ c r ~ t ~ c r v j c c r ~ p o r t o:Z t h ~ t,;om'llic::;ion' f H ~ : - . r : i n c : ; ; n::: r c eof hi s in fon.mtio11. JU .I be n ~ .furnished hy i.J. in order t ha t

n l l c ~ r . t i o n nnd th rcn t to sue mny I.Jc <lisccntHl:d:c d to Ccci·ct :;cr..,icc:Jnd the Depnrtmcnt. LA Office nuvi.scslPnl,- ir; C O l t { i d ~ n c ~ Wln f'llld

o n • J o r t u n i ~ t nnd recommends no :r:ur-Litcr c o n t ~ c t ·;:i th hit•t. ; r ~ h ~ r .l.Jccn clc: : r ly to ld I did not d i v u l ~ c thr. : t n : l o t ' ~ n t i o n nn(i T,nn<.' • or.ourcc ·t s c lcor ly i n c l i ~ n t c d in Jdc boo;':.

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SUBJECT: JACK L ~ U B Y aka;LEE HARVEY OSWALD aka - VICTIMCR00: DL

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FBI #2956393, inmate a t FCI, T e r m i n a ~ I l i n r r 7 C a l i f .»ALL admittedly contacted law enforcement

in the -hope of self-benefi t . ·Re - i s a confidence man.

Review of the FD-302 submitted by LosAngeles Office ref lect ing re sul ts of interview bySA WILLIAM JOHN NOLAN and Special Agent in Charge

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J?...GK Atill..EADb who i s referred to by HALL,was a prominent Dallas oi l man prior to his death somemonths ago and was known to the Bureau. BILL BYERSmay be identical with a gentleman by the same name,

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In summary, the information, i f t rue, wouldestablish RUBY as a confidence man and with extensivegambling act iv i t ies . Such has not been establishedthrough hundreds of interviews with persons in a l lsections where RUBY has resided.

Two copies of the FD-302 and two copies of

an accompanying insert re la t ive to H LL are enclosedto Bureau, Las Vegas, El Paso, Chicago, and SanFrancisco, in view of alleged act iv i t ies . Two copiesof each are being retained in Dallas f i le but are notbeing -inc-luded in a Dallas report unless some informat ion i s developed to confirm allegations.

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Interview R ~ ~ Q F W A R T Z aka Marty Field,said by H LL to be hi§-:uncle ancrc-urr ently a dealer a t

Sands Hotel as to his knowledge of RUBY . Attemptthrough SCHW RTZ to confirm or negate the informationas to RUBY s ac t iv i t i es .

I f he confirms and such ac t iv i ti es are subject to ver i f icat ion set out appropriate leads.

Other off ices review material and, i f thereappears to be any basis of fact so far as such off icesare concerned, advise.

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