Hidden Valley Commutator

Newsletter of the Hidden Valley Model T Club, November 2014

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The Hidden Valley

Commutator is the

newsletter of the

Hidden Valley Model

T Club.

The newsletter is

published monthly

and distributed on-

line to all connected

members.

The 2012 thru 2014

members of the

HVMTC Board of Directors are:

President

Doug Lested

Tours

Stephanie Terrell

Treasurer

Diane McPherson

Secretary

Tony Bowker

Web Editor

Tony Bowker

Hidden Valley Model

T Club

PO Box 462314

Escondido, CA

92046-2314

Upcoming Events

Wednesday 5 November - Dinner at Charlie's starting at 6 pm

Saturday 15 November - HVMTC Tour to Cabrillo National Monument ,

Old Point Loma lighthouse and Spanish Landing. Meet at 9am at the parking

lot North of the Visitor Center in Mission Bay Park, leave at 9:30am.

Wednesday 3 December - Dinner at Charlie's starting at 6 pm

Saturday 6 December - HVMTC Tour to Taylor Guitars in El Cajon.

Saturday 20 December - HVMTC Xmas Lights tour in Escondido. Meet

at Marie Callenders in Escondido at 5pm for dinner, tour starts about 6:30pm.

Saturday & Sunday February 7-8, 2015 Overnight tour to Joshua Tree - see

notes in this newsletter.

Hidden Valley Commutator

Newsletter of the Hidden Valley Model T Club, November 2014

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Minutes for HVMTC General Meeting October 1, 2014 Meeting opened at 6:40 pm by President Doug Lested

Members attending included John & Karen Pepe, Tony & Heather Bowker, Vic & Stephanie Terrell,

Lou Schweiger, Bob Anderson, John Chapman, Warren Raps, Henry Keener, Virgil & Sharon

White, Doug Lested John & Jane Alling, Dale & Eleanor Stanfield, Rich Seamour, Ann Tunnell, Bob

Millen and Craig & Barbara French.

Warren lead the pledge.

Doug welcomed everyone. Without Diane, Doug reported on club funds, we have sufficient to

continue operations..

Warren spoke about the Encinitas tour.

Stephanie lead a discussion of upcoming tours:

Saturday 18 October - Tour to the Alta Vista Gardens, meet at 9am at the Escondido Performing

Arts Center, leave at 9:30am.

Saturday 15 November - Tour to Point Loma Open House and the San Salvador, meet in Mission

Bay Park North of the Visitor Center at 9am, leave at 9:30am. Doug will ascertain when the

San Salvador can be visited by the Model Ts.

Saturday 6 December - Tour to Taylor Guitar Works in El Cajon, joint tour with Palomar Model

A's. Doug will contact the Ray Galdi to get the correct date.

Saturday 20 December - Xmas Lights Tour with prior dinner in Escondido. Meet at Marie

Callenders at 5 pm and leave about 6:30. Don't forget to light up the T.

Tony spoke about the proposed overnight tour to Joshua Tree with more ideas generated for the drive

there and back.

Tony asked if there were any comments on the July minutes. There was one omission, Jim Ottavian

family name was omitted. Approval of the minutes was unanimously approved.

Tony & Virgil spoke about their trips back East.

There was no Opportunity drawing.

Being no further business, Doug closed the meeting at 7:30 pm.

Respectfully submitted

Tony Bowker, Secretary

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Tour to Alta Vista Gardens. 18 October

This tour conflicted with the funeral Of Jack Davis, Cathy Risings

father, so I could not attend. No one else sent pictures or a report.

Proposed Driving Tour to Joshua Tree N.P.

Mac and I are planning a trip to Joshua Tree N.P. for the weekend of February 7/8, 2015.

Mac is involved with the Saturday and Sunday tours in and around the park I am working on

a route to enable our Model T's to be driven from home to the weekend tour.

Rather than driving there and back in a single day, we propose to take a more leasurly

approach with two days to get there, two days in the park and two days to return.

The route out would allow everyone to leave from their individual homes on Thursday 5

February and all meet for a lunch at the cafe near Lake Henshaw. In the afternoon we will drive

to Borrego Springs and stay in a motel, such as the Borrego Springs motel ($75). Next day we

would traverse the Badlands, them on to Mecca (Plaza Garibaldi Restaurant for lunch?) and enter the

Joshua Tree Park at the southern entrance and arrive at the Holiday Inn ($100) at Twentynine

Palms.

Saturday morning is undecided but we will visit Keys Ranch in the afternoon.

Sunday is still being planned.

On Monday, February 9, the intrepid drivers would leave Twentynine Palms for lunch in

Palm Springs and spend the night in Palm Desert, maybe at International Lodge. ($75). On

Tuesday we would climb HWY74, lunch at Lake Henshaw and return home.

Thursday Feb 5 Home to Borrego Springs 64 miles

Friday Feb 6 Borrego Springs to Twentynine Palms 121 miles

Saturday Feb 7 Visit Keys Ranch starting at 1:30 pm.

Sunday Feb 8

Monday Feb 9 Twentynine Palms to Palm Desert 60 miles

Tuesday 10 Feb Palm Desert to Home approx 109 miles

These plans are very provisional and Mac and I welcome all comments

TonyB

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Services Offers Doug Anderson had a great repair job done on his radiator. They even completely polished it

before they were done. They had just finished repairs on two T radiators. Advanced Radiator in

Temecula. Phone 800-792-1242, (760) 738-1058

For Sale

1924 T roadster pickup, 12v system with alternator and distributor. Ruckstell, 26/27 wire wheels

with spare, very good top and leather seat. Very good touring car. Wood bed w/cover. Adjustable

lifters, High compression head, external oiler, fuse panel, Rocky Mountain brakes, turn signals,

running board tool box and fuel cans. Side curtains.

Spare running engine w/same updates as the engine in the car. The spare engine numbers match the

registration.

The car with excellent motor and spare motor - asking $11,000

Very large collection of parts including 26/27 engine (taken apart), alternators, starters, generators,

bearings, etc. Value of this is over $9,500. A list of the parts is available. $4,000.

Dell Pound dellpound@gmail.com 760-685-3461

For Sale Craig French is trying to make room in the garage and get rid of some excess shop equipment he

no longer need or has duplicates.

10" Radial Arm Saw, Montgomery Ward. It has an extra large table with wheels. $50

8" Compound Saw, Delta $50

6" Metal Band Saw, Older China Brand, $25

2HP Dust Collector, Harbor Freight Brand, 70 Gallon, two bag unit. $100

All items in good working condition,

Craig French 760-727-5046 or candbfrench@gmail.com.

For Sale Auto Trunk, probably late 20's or early 30's. Measures about 33" wide by 11" deep and 16" tall.

It has some rust but two good latches and it was manufactured by the York Carburetor Company

in York PA.

Open to offers, call Mrs Christman at 760-727-5487.

(I would guess $25-$50 might be enough Tony)

For Sale

My father, George Romain passed away 1 ½ years ago & I am trying to sell his 1921 Model T

Touring that I helped him restore in the late 1960’s. It is still in excellent condition & was driven

regularly up until his death. He was a founding member of the San Fernando Valley Chapter of the

MTFC and he & my mother were very active members of the club. If you know anyone that might

be interested in buying the T please contact Jim Romain jimsautogv@comcast.net

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For Sale

100 YEAR OLD MODEL T

1914 Model T Ford Roaster-pickup. Brass radiator, green exterior, black interior, wooden spokes.

Engine and transmission believed to be original. Converted to 12 volt system, alternator

and distributor. New carburetor, starter motor, keyed ignition, muffler, exhaust manifold, stop light

switch, directional signals, steering shaft kit, front spindles, vinyl top, tires, tubes, rim flaps. New

Rocky Mtn. brakes and halogen lights installed four yrs. ago. Engine head magnifluxed and

surfaced, valves adjusted and Bendix rebuilt during past year. No body rust. Licensed/ registered in

California.

Located in Vista, CA. Call Bob Millen - 760-809-3036. Available to be inspected most weekdays

and weekend. $16,500 OBO

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Not having much in the way of tours, I thought I would add the write-up from the October Speedster Run

from Escondido

TonyB

2014 Speedster Run - Temecula

This was the 27th Annual Speedster Run organized by the MTFCSD. This year it was run out of the

Riverside town of Temecula, however most of the route was in northern San Diego county.

The event started at the Motel 6 in Temecula on Saturday 25th October, some 22 speedsters and a couple of

regular Model T's, called "other", had signed

up. However as is often the case, a couple

dropped out due to family problems. The

Saturday warm-up run took the cars a quick

20 mile run into the hills to the west of town,

ending at the home of John & Karen Pepe for

a BBQ. We lost a couple of cars on this run,

but most made to the Pepe's home. Their

home is car enthusiasts dream, with more

square feet of classic cars than house, and the

garage is full of beauties. John's son was in

charge of the BBQ grill and the goodies

provided by Karen, Heather Bowker and

Cathy Rising were enjoyed by all.

Sunday was a usual Southern California autumn morning and eighteen speedster and two "others" itching to

tackle the 120 mile route, which included a 6000 foot hill..... Promptly at 8:30, following a drivers

meeting, when they were advised to top up with gas in Fallbrook, Greg Rising flagged them off at one

minute intervals, the mighty speedsters roared off towards De Luz and then Fallbrook. This year Greg had

come up with a Traffic Signal which switched from Red to Green to indicate time to leave. At Fallbrook

Judy & John Burrell and Jerry & Ana Yeadon provided coffee and donuts. Naturally, Howard did not

listen and ran out of gas at Palomar... After Fallbrook, the route took them down Hwy 395 and then up to

Valley Center, Pauma Valley and then up South Grade of Mt Palomar to the Observatory parking lot where

Jim & Gene Train and Mark & Kim Ferguson provided soft drinks and Heather's cookies. The route took

them down East Grade, then back West along to Pala, where most cars lost a lot of time following a very

slow Motor Home. In Pala, Janna Laughon and John & Jonnie Szakas ran a Stop and Go checkpoint, then

the cars ran back north into Temecula to the Denny's for a late lunch.

Along the way we lost four more cars, two with rod knocks, one to a gas

line problem and one undisclosed.

Following lunch, Tony thanked all the volunteers for their efforts. Then

he thanked Gene Carrothers who had provided every entrant and every

volunteer with a bag of "Mothers" car cleaning products. Eventually all

the results came in, the last checkpoint held open until the very last car

came through. The cars were all a little slower than the bogy time this

year, averaging less than 30 mph. It must be due to that 6000 foot hill. In

third place were Nancy & Eric Nelson from Kanab, second was Craig &

Lois Leech and the winners this year were Billy & Cheryl Shumate. This

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is a repeat of last years result and they dedicated the win to their son who passed earlier this year, such a

great loss.

Everyone appeared to have a great time, though those who broke down were a little subdued, anticipating a

good deal of work before the next event. Finally I would like to thank Chuck West for attending to many

administrative details and Greg Rising, without his tremendous help, the event could not take place.

TonyB Acknowledgements:

BBQ John & Karen Pepe, Heather Bowker, Cathy Rising, John Pepe (Jr)

Marshals Greg Rising, Judy & John Burrell and Jerry & Ana Yeadon, Jim & Gene Train and Mark &

Kim Ferguson, Janna Laughon and John & Jonnie Szakas

Trouble trucks Eric Sayer, Kirt Simpsom

Everything else Chuck West, Greg Rising, Tony & Heather Bowker

Craig Leech was very pleased with his second place The third place Nelsons from Kanab, UT

2014 Speedster Run Results ----- Minutes early (-) or late ------

Pos Name Car

# #1 #2 #3 #4 Points

Bogy Timing 45 94 58 26

1 B Shumate 87 7 7 17 2 33

2 C Leech 5 12 4 16 2 34

3 N Nelson 809 8 7 16 3 34

4 T Loftus 54 7 5 15 9 36

5 G Carrothers 1 12 7 15 3 37

6 D Francis 46 12 10 15 3 40

7 J King 1A 16 6 18 1 41

8 R Cressey 2 14 5 19 4 42

9 C King 3 10 16 18 1 45

10 L Harness 15 9 9 24 3 45

11 J Pappakostas 626 9 12 24 4 49

12 J Chapman 4 8 16 21 4 49

13 H Genrich 7 17 7 49 3 76

14 A Goddard 121X 16 18 42 -2 80

15 L Trujillo 25 9 28 DNF

16 B Downs 11 12 DNF

17 D Howie 57 16 DNF

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18 R Hayne 8 12 DNF

19 R Bauman 13 DNS

20 C Calvert 111 DNS

21 B Davisson 20 DNS

22 D Parker 22 DNS The timing for the event is fairly simple, a bogy time is generated for each of the four sections and each entrant is

awarded one point for each minute late and two points for each minute early in each section. Lowest score

wins....