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CAPTIONINGSEPTEMBER 8, 2014PLANNING COMMISSION

REGULAR MEETING

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>>DEREK DOUGHTY: GOOD AFTERNOON, AND WELCOME TO THE

SEPTEMBER 8, 2014, REGULAR MEETING OF THE HILLSBOROUGH

COUNTY CITY-COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION.

WE THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING THIS MEETING.

YOUR COMMENTS AND PARTICIPATION ARE ENCOURAGED.

WE ASK THAT YOU PLEASE SIGN THE REGISTER AT THE REAR OF THE

ROOM AND TURN OFF ANY DEVICES THAT MAY BE A DISTRACTION.

IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON AGENDA ITEMS, WE

ASK THAT YOU PLEASE COMPLETE THE APPROPRIATE PUBLIC COMMENT

SIGN-IN SHEET AT THE REAR OF THE ROOM NOW.

WHEN ADDRESSING THE COMMISSION, PLEASE BEGIN WITH YOUR NAME,

ADDRESS, AND SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO THE MICROPHONE.

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH OUR PROCESS, THE

MEETING WILL BE CONDUCTED AS FOLLOWS: AGENDA ITEM WILL BE

INTRODUCED, AND STAFF WILL GIVE A PRESENTATION WITH A 15-

MINUTE TIME LIMIT; THE APPLICANT WILL BE GIVEN AN

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OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A PRESENTATION, ALSO WITH A 15-MINUTE

TIME LIMIT; FOLLOWING PRESENTATIONS, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC

MAY ADDRESS THE COMMISSION WHEN RECOGNIZED BY THE CHAIR, AND

PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE HEARD FOR 3 MINUTES PER PERSON; THE

APPLICANT WILL THEN BE AFFORDED A 3-MINUTE PERIOD FOR

REBUTTAL OR RESPONSE; PLANNING COMMISSIONERS WILL ASK

QUESTIONS; PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE CLOSED; AND UPON A MOTION,

SECOND, AND DISCUSSION, A VOTE WILL BE TAKEN.

WITH THAT INTRODUCTION, I WILL ASK COMMISSIONER THROWER TO

LEAD US IN THE PRAYER AND PLEDGE.

PLEASE RISE.

>>MITCH THROWER: HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME BEFORE YOU TODAY

WITH PRAISE FOR YOUR MIGHTY POWER AND GUIDANCE.

WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY AND THANK YOU, TOO, FOR THE MANY

BLESSINGS IN OUR LIVES, FOR OUR GREAT COUNTRY AND FOR THE

OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE IN FREEDOM.

WE ASK YOUR BLESSINGS ON OUR LEADERS, AND WE ASK YOU GIVE

EACH ONE OF US HERE TODAY THE WISDOM TO MAKE THE RIGHT

CHOICES SO OUR DECISIONS WILL BE IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF

THE PEOPLE OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.

AMEN.

[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER THROWER.

WE HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

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[ROLL CALL TAKEN]

>> THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A QUORUM.

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: GREAT.

THAT BRINGS US TO APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR THE REGULAR

MEETING OF AUGUST 11, 2014.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION?

WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PIKE AND A SECOND BY

COMMISSIONER WILDS.

ANY DISCUSSION?

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY AYE.

[CHORUS OF AYES]

THOSE OPPOSED?

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER 2 ON OUR AGENDA, PUBLIC INPUT

FOR ANY ITEMS THAT ARE NOT SCHEDULED ON OUR AGENDA.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS

THE COMMISSION?

SEEING NONE, WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 3, CONSISTENCY

FINDING FOR TAMPA PORT AUTHORITY PERMIT No. 14-002 FOR PORT

SUTTON SHORELINE STABILIZATION.

MR. COLLEGE.

>>SHAWN COLLEGE: GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.

SHAWN COLLEGE, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.

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THIS TAMPA PORT AUTHORITY PROPOSED PERMIT 14-002, TITLED

PORT SUTTON SHORELINE STABILIZATION.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS ITEM IS THE PORT HAS FORWARDED THIS

PROPOSED PERMIT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO DO A

DETERMINATION OF CONSISTENCY WITH THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT

COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

IN THIS CASE, IT'S THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY UNINCORPORATED

COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH IS APPLICABLE.

AND THIS IS PURSUANT TO CHAPTERS 95-488 AND 97-351, LAWS OF

FLORIDA.

EXISTING CONDITIONS.

THIS IS THE PORT SUTTON AREA OF TAMPA BAY.

IT'S AN ACTIVE SHIPPING AREA.

THERE IS AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL SHIPPING FACILITY THERE, AS

WELL AS AN EXISTING PIPELINE.

THERE'S ONGOING EROSION DUE TO THE BOAT TRAFFIC AND THE TUG

BOAT TRAFFIC THERE, AND THE SHORELINE WHERE THE PIPELINE IS

LOCATED IS BEING ERODED, AND THAT THREATENS THE STABILITY

AND INTEGRITY OF THIS PIPELINE.

THIS SLIDE YOU ARE SEEING NOW IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT

AREA.

AGAIN, THIS IS PORT SUTTON, WHICH IS JUST SOUTHEAST OF

DOWNTOWN TAMPA.

THIS SCREEN GIVES YOU A MORE PRECISE LOCATION OF THE

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SHORELINE IN QUESTION.

THE RED BOX IS INDICATING WHERE THE ACTUAL SHORELINE

STABILIZATION WILL TAKE PLACE.

THE PROPOSED PROJECT WOULD INSTALL 525 LINEAR FEET OF STEEL

SHEET PILE TILL WALL, 45 FEET OF RETURN WALL, WHICH IS

RETURNING THAT STRAIGHT WALL BACK TO THE EXISTING SHORELINE,

AND BACKFILL APPROXIMATELY .4 ACRES BEHIND THAT NEW TOE

WALL.

THEN A CONCRETE SCOUR MAT WILL BE PLACED OVER THE SLOPE TO

PREVENT ONGOING EROSION.

CONSIDERATIONS FOR CONSISTENCY OF A PROJECT SUCH AS THIS, IT

IS AN EXISTING FACILITY.

IT'S NOT A NEW FACILITY.

THIS IS AN EXISTING FILL AREA.

IT'S NOT NATURAL SHORELINE.

IT WAS CREATED FROM FILL AND DREDGING YEARS AGO.

THERE'S ONGOING EROSION WHICH THREATENS AN EXISTING FACILITY

AND EXISTING COMMERCE.

FOR SOME MINOR WETLAND IMPACTS IN THE AREA, THERE WILL BE

FULL MITIGATION TAKING PLACE TO ADDRESS THAT CONCERN.

AND WITH THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND A

FINDING OF CONSISTENCY WITH THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY

COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU ISSUE THE

RESOLUTION IN YOUR PACKET TO THAT EFFECT.

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THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: THANK YOU, MR. COLLEGE.

I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE -- THERE IS A MEMBER FROM THE PORT

THAT WANTS TO SAY ANYTHING?

>>SHAWN COLLEGE: WE DO HAVE A GENTLEMAN WHO REPRESENTS THE

PORT WHO IS HERE AVAILABLE TO SPEAK SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY

QUESTIONS.

I THINK HE IS JUST AVAILABLE SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: OKAY.

BEFORE WE GET TO ANY QUESTIONS, HOWEVER, I WILL ASK IF

THERE'S ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC AT THIS TIME WHO WISHES TO

SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THIS.

SEEING NONE, THEN ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM

COMMISSIONERS?

IF NOT, WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND I WILL ENTERTAIN A

MOTION.

>>BRIAN HOLLANDS: GO AHEAD AND MOVE FOR FINDING OF

CONSISTENCY FOR TAMPA PORT AUTHORITY PERMIT No. 14-002.

>>MITCH THROWER: SECOND.

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HOLLANDS

AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER THROWER FOR CONSISTENT FINDING.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION?

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY AYE.

[CHORUS OF AYES]

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THOSE OPPOSED?

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU, MR. COLLEGE.

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 4, CONSISTENCY FINDING FOR FISCAL

YEARS 15-19, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM AND CAPITAL

IMPROVEMENTS ELEMENT SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS UPDATE FOR THE

CITY OF TAMPA.

MR. AUGUSTINE.

>>WILL AUGUSTINE: COMMISSIONERS, GOOD AFTERNOON.

WILL AUGUSTINE, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.

THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM BEFORE YOU IS THE CITY OF TAMPA'S

FISCAL YEAR 2015 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, AND THE CIE

SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS UPDATE.

THE CITY IS REQUIRED BY CHAPTER 97-351 LAWS OF FLORIDA TO

SUBMIT THEIR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM TO THE PLANNING

COMMISSION BY JULY 1 OF EACH YEAR.

THIS ANNUAL CIE SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS UPDATE ARE NO LONGER

REQUIRED TO BE PROCESSED AS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS

BUT MAY NOW BE ADOPTED BY LOCAL ORDINANCE THAT AMENDS THE

PLAN.

THIS ANNUAL REVIEW BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS TO ENSURE

THAT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA

INCLUDES A SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS THAT ARE DESIGNED AND

CONSTRUCTED BASED ON A PREDETERMINED PRIORITIES OF NEED AND

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THE ABILITY TO FUND; THAT THE SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS REFLECT

CONSISTENCY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN; AND THAT THE

SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS INVOLVE COORDINATION WITH ADJACENT

JURISDICTIONS.

THE CITY'S CAPITALISM PLAN.

PRIORITIES INCLUDE THE REPLACEMENT OR REPAIR OF FACILITIES

WHICH CONTRIBUTE TO ACHIEVING OR MAINTAINING THE ADOPTED

LEVEL OF SERVICE STANDARDS; THE CONSTRUCTION OF NEW FACILITY

THAT REDUCE OR ELIMINATE DEFICIENCIES FOR EXISTING DEMAND;

AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF NEW FACILITIES THAT MAINTAIN

STANDARDS FOR NEW GROWTH.

ALL THE CIE-RELATED PROJECTS RELATED TO THE LAND USE PLAN

DENSITIES AND INTENSITIES AND CIE PROJECTS WERE CONSISTENT

WITH THE WATER AND SEWER SERVICE AREAS.

THESE SERVICE AREAS ALSO INCLUDE THE CITY OF TEMPLE TERRACE,

WHICH HAS HAD AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA

SINCE 1962 TO TREAT THEIR WASTEWATER.

THE CITY'S LAND USE PLAN DEPICTS USES 20 YEARS INTO THE

FUTURE AND THE URBAN USES THAT ARE REQUIRED BY CONCURRENCY

TO HAVE PUBLIC FACILITY CAPABILITY AVAILABLE.

STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE CIE-RELATED PROJECTS AND HAS

DETERMINED THAT THEY ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE DENSITIES

PROJECTED IN THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.

WITHIN THE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, SIX FUNCTIONAL AREAS ARE

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REQUIRED TO MEET CONCURRENCY TESTS.

THESE ARE WATER, TRANSPORTATION, WASTEWATER, PARKS,

STORMWATER, AND SOLID WASTE.

THE FISCAL YEAR 2015 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM INCLUDES

156 PROJECTS THAT TOTAL OVER $435 MILLION.

THE LARGEST FUNCTIONAL AREAS OF EXPENDITURE IS FUNDED IN

WASTEWATER, WATER, STORMWATER, AND TRANSPORTATION CAPITAL

PROGRAMS.

THESE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS ACCOUNT FOR 143 OF THE

156 PROJECTS, TOTALING OVER $314 MILLION OR 76% OF THE TOTAL

CIP.

THE LARGEST FUNCTIONAL AREA OF CAPITAL PROJECTS IS FOUND IN

THE WASTEWATER AND TRANSPORTATION PROGRAMS.

THESE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS ACCOUNT FOR 104 OF THE

156 PROJECTS, TOTALING OVER $199 MILLION OR 45% OF THE TOTAL

CIP.

STAFF FINDS THAT THE RECOMMENDED CITY OF TAMPA FISCAL YEAR

2015 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM IS CONSISTENT WITH THE

ADOPTED CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AS WELL AS THE

PLANS OF THE CITY OF TEMPLE TERRACE AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY;

AND STAFF HAS DETERMINED THAT THE PROPOSED CAPITAL

IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM DOES ADHERE TO THE OUTLINED FUNDING

PRIORITIES AND COMPLIES WITH THE CITY'S CAP TAIL IMPROVEMENT

ELEMENT.

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THE CITY OF TAMPA DOES REPORT DEFICIENT TRANSPORTATION LEVEL

OF SERVICE ROADWAYS WHICH ARE CURRENTLY BEING ADDRESSED BY

THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF

TRANSPORTATION, AS WELL AS THE CITY OF TAMPA.

FINALLY, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION FIND

THE CITY'S FISCAL YEAR 2015 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND

THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ELEMENT SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS UPDATE

CONSISTENT WITH ITS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND FORWARD THE STAFF

REPORT AND THE RESOLUTION TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: THANK YOU, MR. AUGUSTINE.

IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE CITY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS?

I SEE NONE.

BEFORE WE GET TO ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION, IS THERE

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR

AGAINST?

SEEING NONE, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS?

OKAY.

WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO FIND CITY OF TAMPA'S CIP AND CIE

SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS UPDATE CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF

TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

>> SECOND.

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER AGLIANO AND

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SECOND BY COMMISSIONER YOUNG FOR CONSISTENCY FINDING.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION?

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY AYE.

[CHORUS OF AYES]

THOSE OPPOSED?

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU, MR. AUGUSTINE.

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER 5, CONSISTENCY FINDING FOR

ROUND 2 OF THE 2014 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENTS.

MS. STENMARK.

>>MARCIE STENMARK: GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.

MARCIE STENMARK, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.

YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY FOUR PUBLICLY INITIATED LAND

DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENTS TO THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY LAND

DEVELOPMENT CODE.

I CAN TELL YOU IN ADVANCE THAT PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF IS

RECOMMENDING THAT YOU FIND THEM CONSISTENT WITH THE BACKUP

IN YOUR PACKET.

MOST OF THEM ARE PROCEDURAL, AND ONE OF THEM ALLOWS SOME

FLEXIBILITY WITH REGARD TO PAVING MATERIALS AND PARKING LOTS

FOR MODEL HOMES.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME AFTER DEVELOPMENT

SERVICES' PRESENTATION, I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

MATT LEWIS IS HERE TODAY TO DELIVER THE PRESENTATION.

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THANK YOU.

>>MATT LEWIS: GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.

MATT LEWIS, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

I'M GOING TO DELIVER THE PRESENTATION FOR THE FIRST

AMENDMENT, THEN I'LL HAND IT OVER TO ROY MAZUR TO DELIVER

THE PRESENTATION FOR THE SECOND THREE.

THAT'S THE SCHEDULE.

THE FIRST ONE, IF YOU REMEMBER FROM YOUR WORKSHOPS, IS

REALLY A SEMANTIC ONE, DEALING WITH TERMINOLOGY.

CURRENTLY IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WE USE THE TERMS

HELISTOP AND HELIPORT TO DEAL WITH HELICOPTER LANDING AREAS.

A WHILE BACK WE ADOPTED AN AMENDMENT THAT USED THE WORD

HELIPAD.

WE ARE CHANGING THAT TO HELIPORT.

IN DOING SO, WE ARE CHANGING THE WORD IN 6.11.26 AND THEN

CLARIFYING THAT HELISTOP AND HELIPORT ARE ALLOWED IN CERTAIN

AREAS IN THE DEFINITION.

WHAT THIS ACTUALLY DOES IS IT OBVIOUSLY CLARIFIES WHICH

DISTRICTS PROHIBIT HELICOPTER USES IN FREESTANDING EMERGENCY

ROOMS, AND A COROLLARY, IT SAYS WHICH ONES ALLOW IT.

JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, THE ONES THAT PROHIBIT IT ARE THE

LOW-INTENSITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS; THE ONES THAT ALLOW IT

ARE THE HIGHER-INTENSITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS.

THESE ALREADY ALLOW HELISTOPS ANYWAY.

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THERE'S NO CHANGE TO PROHIBITING HELICOPTER USE IN THE

DISTRICTS THAT DO NOT PROHIBIT HELICOPTER USE.

AS I SAID, IT'S AN AMENDMENT THAT CHANGES A WORD; IT DOESN'T

CHANGE AN OUTCOME.

SO WITH THAT, IF THERE AREN'T ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL HAND IT

OVER TO ROY MAZUR.

>>ROY MAZUR: GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.

ROY MAZUR, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

NICE TO BE HERE AGAIN AND DELIVER MY PRESENTATION ON THREE

TEXT AMENDMENTS FOR THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, THE FIRST

BEING TO PROVIDE A PARALLEL REVIEW FOR THE PROCESS OF SITE

AND BUILDING CONSTRUCTION PLANS.

THE IDEA WOULD BE TO PROVIDE THE BUILDING COMMUNITY A CHANCE

TO SUBMIT THEIR VERTICAL BUILDING PLANS EARLIER IN THE PLAN

REVIEW PROCESS.

THE BUILDING PLANS WOULD BE ACCEPTED AFTER THE DEVELOPMENT

REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING DATE.

THAT DATE WAS PICKED OUT BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY MEMORIALIZED

IN OUR PROCEDURES.

THAT'S APPROXIMATELY A MONTH AFTER CONSTRUCTION PLANS ARE

SUBMITTED THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETS WITH THE

DEVELOPER TO IRON OUT COMMENTS AND GET QUESTIONS ANSWERED.

THIS WOULD GIVE THE DEVELOPER OR ENGINEER ONE ROUND OF

COMMENTS TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE FLOODPLAIN IS, WHERE PONDS

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WOULD BE BUILT SO THEY COULD ESTABLISH THE FOOTPRINT OF

THEIR BUILDING.

AT THAT TIME AND WITH THAT KNOWLEDGE, THEY WOULD BE FREE TO

SUBMIT THEIR VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION PLANS.

OF COURSE, THE BUILDING PLANS WOULD NOT BE ISSUED UNTIL THE

CONSTRUCTION SITE PLAN WOULD BE APPROVED AND RELEASED.

THE INTENDED CONSEQUENCES OR INTENDED OUTCOMES HERE.

EXPEDITES THE SUBMITTAL OF VERTICAL BUILDING PLANS, CLEARLY.

WE WOULD NOT COMPROMISE ANY BUILDING REVIEW STANDARDS.

CERTAINLY, THE COUNTY OR STATE BUILDING CODE WOULD NOT BE

COMPROMISED IN ANY FORM.

AND THIS WOULD SAVE THE DEVELOPER ABOUT TWO TO FOUR WEEKS OF

THEIR OVERALL PLAN PROCESS -- PLAN SUBMITTAL PROCESS.

WHEN YOU COMBINE THIS WITH SOME OTHER MEASURES WE'VE TAKEN,

PREDOMINANTLY THE OPTION TO SKIP PRELIMINARY REVIEW FOR

COMMERCIAL PROJECTS, THIS PROBABLY SAVES COMMERCIAL PROJECTS

EIGHT TO TEN WEEKS OF REVIEW TIME.

THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS TO PROVIDE LATITUDE FOR HOME

BUILDERS WHEN CONSTRUCTING PARKING AREAS FOR MODEL DWELLING

UNITS.

CURRENTLY, IN THE CODE OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CALLS FOR

PAVING A PARKING AREA FOR MODEL DWELLING UNITS.

THE EMPHASIS ON CREATING A DURABLE AND DUSTLESS SURFACE IS

OUR EMPHASIS HERE.

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AND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS GIVE SMALLER HOME BUILDERS

THE CHANCE TO PROVIDE, PERHAPS, A GRAVEL SEALED WITH ASPHALT

AS OPPOSED TO MAKING IT A CONCRETE OR ASPHALT PARKING LOT,

THE DIFFERENCE THERE BEING IF YOU ARE DOING 20 LOTS, THE

COST PER LOT IS MUCH GREATER TO CREATE THIS PARKING LOT THAN

IF YOU ARE DOING 200 LOTS.

SO WE ARE GIVING A SMALLER HOME BUILDERS A LITTLE MORE

OPTION -- WE GIVE EVERYBODY A LITTLE MORE OPTION HERE, BUT

IT'S TARGETING SMALLER HOME BUILDERS.

AGAIN, THE SECOND BULLET IS VERY SIGNIFICANT HERE, THAT THE

REVIEW STANDARDS FOR ADA REQUIREMENTS, HANDICAPPED PARKING,

WOULD NOT BE COMPROMISED.

THAT WOULD REMAIN A REQUIREMENT.

THE THIRD AMENDMENT IS PROVIDE GUIDELINES FOR LICENSED

CONTRACTORS AND LICENSED ENGINEERS TO CERTIFY CONFORMANCE TO

AN APPROVED LOT PLAN.

THIS WOULD GIVE THE CONTRACTOR WHO BUILT THE HOME OR A

PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER THE ABILITY TO SELF-CERTIFY THE FINAL

SITE INSPECTION OF THAT PARCEL.

THERE'S A SITE INSPECTION AND A FINAL VERTICAL BUILDING

INSPECTION.

THE SITE INSPECTION, WHICH IS THINGS LIKE THE PRESENCE OF

THE SIDEWALK, THE PRESENCE AND QUALITY OF LOT TREES, THE

POSITIONING OF THE SANITARY CLEAN-OUT, THE REMOVAL OF ANY

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EXOTIC SPECIES OF TREES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

THE CONTRACTOR THAT BUILT THE HOME OR A PROFESSIONAL

ENGINEER COULD PROVIDE THE COUNTY WITH A CERTIFICATION THAT

THESE CHECKLIST OF ITEMS HAVE, INDEED, BEEN CONSTRUCTED PER

THE DESIGN PLANS.

CURRENTLY THEY CALL THE COUNTY, THE COUNTY SENDS OUT AN

INSPECTOR, THE INSPECTOR CERTIFIES THESE THINGS, PROVIDES

THAT CERTIFICATION TO THE CONTRACTOR, THEY PROVIDE THAT TO

THE COUNTY AND CAN PROCEED FORWARD TO OBTAIN THEIR

CERTIFICATION OF OCCUPANCY.

PRIMARILY WHAT THIS PROVIDES IS IT SAVES ON STAFF RESOURCES.

RATHER THAN HAVING TO SEND AN INSPECTOR OUT TO DO THAT TASK,

WHICH IS ABOUT 40% CURRENTLY OF OUR SITE INSPECTIONS TEAM

WORKLOAD IS DOING THESE INDIVIDUAL LOTS CERTIFICATIONS, IT

SAVES US SOME MAN POWER.

IT ALSO GIVES THE DEVELOPER A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY AND

CONTROL OVER THEIR INSPECTION SCHEDULING.

AN ITEM THAT'S SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, THE ONE I PRESENTED IN

THE WORKSHOP, IS WE ACTUALLY PUT IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT

CODE THE AUDIT PROCESS, THAT WE WOULD GO BEHIND THE

DEVELOPER OR ENGINEER WHO CERTIFIED IT, WE WOULD GO BEHIND

THEM PERIODICALLY TO MAKE SURE, INDEED, WHAT THEY CERTIFIED

WAS CORRECTLY INSPECTED.

THAT WAS NOT IN OUR CODE LANGUAGE, AND IT IS NOW.

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SO WE HAVE MEMORIALIZED IN THE CODE OUR INTENT TO DO AN

AUDIT PROCESS.

SO WITH THAT, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: THANK YOU, MR. MAZUR, MR. LEWIS.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THE

COMMISSION EITHER FOR OR AGAINST?

SEEING NONE, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS?

SEEING NONE AGAIN, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND

ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>>BRIAN HOLLANDS: I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE FOR A FINDING OF

CONSISTENCY WITH THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN

OF LDC TEXT AMENDMENTS 14-856, 14-862, 14-863 AND 14-864.

>>RAY YOUNG: SECOND.

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HOLLANDS

AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER YOUNG.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION?

SEEING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY AYE.

OPPOSED?

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY BY MEMBERS PRESENT.

THANK YOU, MS. STENMARK.

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 6, DISTRICTWIDE EDUCATIONAL

FACILITIES PLAN, 2014-15 TO 2018-19.

MS. KELLY.

>>KRISTA KELLY: GOOD AFTERNOON.

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KRISTA KELLY, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.

BASED ON AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE SCHOOL BOARD

AND EACH OF THE JURISDICTIONS IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, THE

PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ASKED TO REVIEW THE DISTRICT'S FIVE-

YEAR FACILITIES PLAN ANNUALLY FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THE

COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S FIVE-YEAR FACILITIES PLAN IS THE WORK

PROGRAM ADOPTED BY THE SCHOOL BOARD TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE

FACILITY CAPACITY FOR PROJECTED STUDENT ENROLLMENT.

MS. VALDES, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT CHIEF FACILITIES OFFICER,

AND MS. DUFFY SUAREZ, GENERAL MANAGER FOR GROWTH MANAGEMENT

AND PLANNING, ARE HERE TO PRESENT THE PROPOSED FIVE-YEAR

PLAN AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

FOLLOWING THEIR PRESENTATION, STAFF WILL PRESENT A

CONSISTENCY FINDING AND ASK THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO TAKE

ACTION.

OH, I AM SORRY.

I APOLOGIZE.

>> CHRIS FARKAS.

I AM THE NEW CHIEF FACILITIES OFFICER NOW THAT MS. VALDES IS

DEPUTY SUPERINTENDENT.

I WILL SHARE WITH YOU SOME OF THE DISTRICT EDUCATIONAL

FACILITIES PLAN, OUR FIVE-YEAR PLAN WE COMMONLY REFER TO,

AND GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION AS TO WHAT'S HAPPENING AROUND

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THE COUNTY.

ALL RIGHT.

HERE WE GO.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE FIRST PAGE IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT WE ARE ACTUALLY DOING.

THOMPSON ELEMENTARY OPENED THIS AUGUST, DOWN RIGHT ADJACENT

TO LENNARD HIGH SCHOOL IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY,

AND FANTASTIC LEED SCHOOL THAT IS AN ENERGY-EFFICIENT SCHOOL

THAT JUST OPENED UP TO RAVE REVIEWS.

WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT BUILDING.

NEXT YEAR IN THE 15-16 SCHOOL YEAR IN AUGUST, WE WILL OPEN

LAMB ELEMENTARY, WHICH IS JUST SOUTH OF PROGRESS VILLAGE

MIDDLE SCHOOL, RIGHT OFF 78th STREET.

ALSO, WE ARE ADDING AN ADDITION TO LENNARD HIGH SCHOOL,

WHICH WOULD BE READY FOR AUGUST.

THE REASON IS FOR THE OBVIOUS GROWTH HAPPENING IN THE

SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY.

IT WILL BE 500 STUDENT STATIONS THERE, WHICH WILL GIVE THE

CAPACITY TO LENNARD HIGH SCHOOL RIGHT AT 700 STUDENTS.

MIDDLE SCHOOL TT AT BALM ROAD WILL ELIMINATE OF THE

OVERCROWDING IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY.

AND IN 18-19, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE NEW WATERSET COMMUNITY

OPENING A K-8 SCHOOL TO SERVICE THE OVERCROWDING THAT IS

CAUSED BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF

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THE COUNTY AS WELL.

AS WE LOOK OUT THROUGH YEARS SIX THROUGH TEN, WE STILL HAVE

THE MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT'S GOING TO BE AT ENCORE.

IT'S GOING TO BE MEACHAM MIDDLE SCHOOL.

WE ALSO ANTICIPATE ANOTHER MIDDLE SCHOOL IN THE SOUTHERN

PART OF THE COUNTY.

AS WE DID AT LENNARD, WE ANTICIPATE REMODELING, HELPING WITH

HIGH SCHOOL SEATS AS WE GO FORWARD THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY IN

THE AREAS THAT ARE THE MOST CROWDED.

THE FACILITIES PLAN CALLS FOR $250 MILLION, AND WHERE DOES

THAT GO IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS?

MAJOR MAINTENANCE IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE WE HAVE, AND AS WITH

MANY ENTITIES NATIONALLY, THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE PROGRAM

AND THE FUNDING IS ALSO A BIG ISSUE FOR US, AS IT IS FOR

MANY ENTITIES.

AS YOU CAN SEE, OF $250 MILLION, 72 OF IT IS FOR NEW

CONSTRUCTION, AND THAT IS FOR THE SCHOOLS WE JUST NAMED,

THOMPSON WE JUST OPENED, LAMB NEXT YEAR, THEN MIDDLE SCHOOL

TT THE FOLLOWING YEAR.

AN IMPORTANT PART OF THAT IS THE RENOVATIONS, WHICH IS AT

ZERO, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY A CHALLENGE AND A CONCERN FOR US AS

WE GO FORWARD.

NEW SCHOOLS AND CAPACITY AS WE GO THROUGH.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER MIDDLE SCHOOLS BESIDES THE TWO JUST

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NAMED IN A ARE FUNDED.

MIDDLE SCHOOL TT AND THE ENCORE MIDDLE SCHOOL ARE PARTIALLY

FUNDED.

A COMBINATION SCHOOL, WHICH WE OPENED AT TURNER/BARTELS,

WE'RE ALSO OPENING IN THE SOUTH PART OF THE COUNTY.

AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT THE ADDITION OF LENNARD HIGH SCHOOL

FOR THE 500 EXTRA SEATS THERE.

SO LOCATION.

AS YOU CAN TELL, LAMB IS THE FURTHEST NORTH, JUST IN THE

SOUTHERN PART OF PROGRESS VILLAGE.

THE REST IS WHERE WE HAVE THE LARGEST GROWTH FOR US AS WELL.

SO ADDITIONS TO THE EXISTING SCHOOLS.

ONE, THE ONE WE TALKED ABOUT AT LENNARD HIGH SCHOOL, AND

MAJOR RENOVATIONS AT THIS TIME BECAUSE OF FUNDING IS AT

ZERO.

OTHER EXPENDITURES.

BUS PURCHASES.

OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, WE WILL BE SPENDING

$18 MILLION ON BUS PURCHASES.

THERE'S A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WE DEVELOPED TO MAKE SURE WE

BUY APPROXIMATELY 100 BUSES A YEAR, WHICH IS ABOUT $11

MILLION A YEAR, SO WE CAN GET THE AGE OF OUR FLEET DOWN AND

HAVE A MORE DEPENDABLE FLEET.

WE'VE ALSO PUT TOGETHER -- OR PUT ASIDE DURING THE COURSE OF

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THE NEXT FIVE YEARS $15 MILLION BECAUSE OF IT TIES RIGHT

INTO OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, WE ARE IN NEED OF A NEW

FACILITY FOR PARKING BUSES AND FOR REPAIRING BUSES IN EITHER

THE WESTERN OR SOUTHERN PART OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, SO WE

WILL LOOK AT THAT AS WE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

SO ANTICIPATED REVENUE.

YOU CAN SEE AT 72 MILLION, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY IS THE

RIGHT-HAND SIDE, WHICH IS THE CONSTRUCTION NEED, WHICH IS

$399 MILLION.

THAT DEFICIT IS ALARMING TO US AS WELL.

SO MAJOR MAINTENANCE, AND IN FLORIDA, THAT CONSISTS OF ROOFS

AND AIR CONDITIONING TO BE A LARGE PORTION OF IT, AND THAT'S

WHAT WE ARE FOCUSED ON IN MANY OF THOSE SITES, BUT THAT WILL

HAPPEN, AND THAT'S SPREAD EVENLY AMONGST THE 263 EDUCATIONAL

FACILITIES WE HAVE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.

THE DEBT.

WE ARE GETTING READY TO GO UNDERNEATH A BILLION DOLLARS FOR

THE FIRST TIME HOPEFULLY AFTER THIS YEAR, SO THAT'S A

POSITIVE THING FOR US IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS.

I SAY WITH A SMILE, BUT REALITY IS WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO

PAYING THAT DEBT DOWN, AND WE ARE AT $1.039 BILLION.

I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ABOUT THE

WORK PLAN, OR MS. VALDES IS WELCOME.

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: THANK YOU.

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IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THE

COMMISSION ON THIS ITEM?

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS?

I SEE COMMISSIONER GREEN.

>>THEODORE TRENT GREEN: I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION.

YOU MENTIONED A COMBINATION SCHOOL.

I THINK I ALREADY KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT, BUT WOULD IT

BE AN ELEMENTARY --

>> SURE.

IT'S A K-8.

TRANSITIONS ARE HARDEST FROM FIFTH TO SIXTH GRADE AND EIGHTH

TO NINTH GRADE.

THAT FIFTH TO SIXTH IS WHERE WE ARE LOSING A LOT OF

STUDENTS.

WE FOUND SUCCESS IN A K-8 SCHOOL.

SO THE COMBINATION SCHOOL WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AT WATERSET

AND POSSIBLY AT ENCORE IS K-8 SCHOOL.

>>THEODORE TRENT GREEN: THESE WESTBOUND THE FIRST IN THE

COUNTY? -- WOULD BE THE FIRST IN THE COUNTY?

>> ACTUALLY, THE THIRD.

THIS WILL BE OUR FOURTH ONE WE OPEN UP.

>>THEODORE TRENT GREEN: THANK YOU.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GREEN.

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ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS?

>> [SPEAKER OFF MIC]

[LAUGHTER]

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

ARE THERE ANY -- IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I WILL

ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>>KRISTA KELLY: STAFF NEEDS TO PROVIDE A CONSISTENCY

FINDING.

STAFF FINDS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES PLAN

FOR 2014-15 TO 2018-19 CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE

PLANS OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND THE CITIES OF TAMPA, TEMPLE

TERRACE, AND PLANT CITY.

STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE A

RESOLUTION FINDING THE PROPOSED SCHOOL DISTRICT FIVE-YEAR

FACILITIES PLAN CONSISTENT AND TO FORWARD THAT

RECOMMENDATION TO THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD.

THANK YOU.

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: THANK YOU, MS. KELLY.

NOW THAT WE HAVE OUR STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, I WILL

ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>>MITCH THROWER: I MOVE THAT WE FIND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT

FIVE-YEAR WORK PLAN AND FACILITIES PLAN CONSISTENT WITH THE

HILLSBOROUGH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, PLANT CITY COMPREHENSIVE

PLAN, CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THE CITY OF

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TEMPLE TERRACE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER THROWER

AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WILDS FOR CONSISTENCY.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION?

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY AYE.

[CHORUS OF AYES]

THOSE OPPOSED?

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU.

DON'T GO ANYWHERE.

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER 7, A BRIEFING ON CHANGES TO

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT PROCEDURES MANUAL FOR OUR

AREA.

MS. KELLY.

>>KRISTA KELLY: THANK YOU.

KRISTA KELLY, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.

THIS IS A BRIEFING ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT

PROCEDURES MANUAL UPDATE BEING PROPOSED BY STAFF.

PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF WORKED TOGETHER WITH ALL THE

JURISDICTION STAFF TO ADDRESS ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN

IDENTIFIED OVER TIME, INCLUDING STANDARDIZING THE FORMAT AND

REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THE PROCEDURE MANUAL PROCESS OR THE PLAN

AMENDMENT PROCESS ACROSS JURISDICTIONS AND TO JUST IN

GENERAL IMPROVE THE PLAN AMENDMENT REVIEW PROCESS.

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THE REVISIONS INCLUDE STANDARDIZING THE REFERENCES RELATED

TO THE NUMBER OF DAYS TO A DEADLINE.

CURRENTLY, THROUGHOUT THE MANUAL, THERE ARE REFERENCES TO

CALENDAR DAYS, WORKING DAYS, BUSINESS DAYS, WHICH ARE

IMPACTED BY HOLIDAYS, WEEKENDS, AND IT MAKES IT CONFUSING

FOR THE APPLICANT AND MAINTAINING A SCHEDULE.

SO WE JUST SIMPLY REVISED THE MANUAL TO REFER TO DAYS.

WE ALSO CHANGED THE DUE DATE FOR THE PRO RATA ADVERTISING

FEE FROM 30 DAYS PRIOR TO 14 DAYS PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC

HEARING, AND AGAIN, THIS WAS MADE JUST TO SIMPLIFY THE

BILLING PROCESS.

ANOTHER REVISION INCLUDED DELETING THE SPECIFIC LEGAL

CITATIONS AND JUST INDICATE AS REQUIRED BY FLORIDA STATUTE.

THIS ELIMINATES THE NEED TO CONSTANTLY CHANGE THE CITATIONS

AS THE LEGISLATION CHANGES.

WE'VE ADDED TWO PROVISIONS.

THE FIRST PROVISION IS TO EXEMPT PUBLICLY INITIATED PLAN

AMENDMENTS THAT ARE INTENDED TO RECOGNIZE EXISTING USES ON

PUBLIC LANDS FROM LOCAL NOTICING REQUIREMENTS.

THIS DOES NOT EXEMPT THEM FROM STATE-REQUIRED ADVERTISING

REQUIREMENTS.

THE SECOND PROVISION IS TO REQUIRE A ONE-YEAR WAITING PERIOD

FOR AMENDMENTS WITHDRAWN FOLLOWING THE FIRST GOVERNING BODY

PUBLIC HEARING, IN SOME CASES.

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AND THIS IS INTENDED TO AVOID A PLAN AMENDMENT COMING BACK

WITH NO CHANGE IN CIRCUMSTANCE OR PROPOSAL UNTIL THERE'S

ADEQUATE TIME THAT MAYBE THE CIRCUMSTANCES DO CHANGE.

THE MANUAL HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION

ATTORNEY, TRACY ROBIN, AND THE ATTORNEYS FROM EACH OF THE

JURISDICTIONS AND THE JURISDICTIONAL STAFF.

MINOR RECOMMENDATIONS WERE RECOMMENDED AND MADE.

BECAUSE THIS IS A BRIEFING, THERE IS NO ACTION REQUIRED, AND

WE WILL BRING THIS BACK FOR FORMAL ACTION AT YOUR OCTOBER

MEETING.

AND I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: THANK YOU, MS. KELLY.

ARE THERE QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS PERTAINING TO THIS

ITEM?

COMMISSIONER HOLLANDS?

>>BRIAN HOLLANDS: TWO QUESTIONS.

IN SIMPLIFYING THIS DOWN TO TALKING ABOUT DAYS AS OPPOSED TO

CALENDAR DAYS OR BUSINESS DAYS OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE,

IN GOING THROUGH, IT LOOKED LIKE THAT REALLY WOULDN'T CAUSE

ANY ADDITIONAL CONFUSION OR PEOPLE TO MISS ANY DEADLINES, AS

IT LOOKED LIKE REALLY MOST OF THE DAYS REFERENCES IN HERE

ARE CALENDAR DAYS; IS THAT CORRECT?

>>KRISTA KELLY: THAT IS CORRECT.

>>BRIAN HOLLANDS: OKAY.

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THEN THE SECOND QUESTION IS ON THE FINAL ITEM, CAN YOU

ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE A

PRIVATELY INITIATED AMENDMENT WOULD HAVE THE ONE-YEAR

MORATORIUM ON ITS RESUBMITTAL?

>>KRISTA KELLY: AN EXAMPLE OF THAT IS IF AN APPLICANT COMES

IN WITH A REQUEST, HYPOTHETICALLY, THERE WAS A

RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL, IT GOES TO THE GOVERNING BOARD.

THE RECOMMENDATION IS DENIAL AGAIN.

THE APPLICANT RESUBMITS, BUT THERE'S NO CHANGE IN THE SIZE

OR THE NATURE OF THE PROPOSAL.

THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THE SAME.

IN SOME CASES, THIS IS DONE STRATEGICALLY TO GET A DIFFERENT

BOARD INPUT, AND IT JUST -- IT CAUSES A LOT OF EXTRA

ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIVITY.

AND WE HAVE UNDERSTOOD THAT IN A YEAR'S PERIOD,

CIRCUMSTANCES CAN CHANGE, BUT NOT NECESSARILY WITHIN SIX

MONTHS.

>>BRIAN HOLLANDS: I AM TRYING TO THINK OF THE RIGHT WAY TO

PHRASE THIS.

ARE THERE INSTANCES WHERE SOMEBODY COULD BE SUBJECTED TO

THIS ONE-YEAR DELAY -- THAT'S CALL IT THAT -- HAVING

RECEIVED AN INITIAL APPROVAL?

SO THERE'S SOMETHING THAT -- SOME OTHER CIRCUMSTANCE THAT'S

CAUSING THEM TO WITHDRAW THIS ITEM, AND NOT HAVING RECEIVED

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ANY KIND OF DENIAL OR RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL, THEN HAVING

TO WAIT A FULL YEAR TO RESUBMIT?

THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I AM TRYING TO AVOID OCCURRING.

>>KRISTA KELLY: ABSOLUTELY.

IN MANY CIRCUMSTANCES, INSTEAD OF WITHDRAWING, THEY CONTINUE

BECAUSE SOMETHING HAS OCCURRED ON THEIR SIDE THAT WOULD

PROHIBIT THEM FROM GOING FORWARD.

BUT THEY COULD JUST CONTINUE TO THE NEXT CYCLE.

IT'S ONLY WHEN IT'S WITHDRAWN BECAUSE --

>>BRIAN HOLLANDS: SO I WOULD ASSUME, THEN, OUR STAFF WOULD

BE COUNSELING SOMEBODY IN THAT SITUATION NOT TO WITHDRAW

BUT, RATHER, TO CONTINUE?

>>KRISTA KELLY: TO CONTINUE.

>>BRIAN HOLLANDS: OKAY.

THAT I AM OKAY WITH.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

>>KRISTA KELLY: THANK YOU.

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS?

COMMISSIONER YOUNG.

>>RAY YOUNG: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

KRISTA, ON PAGE 10, WITH REGARD TO THE NOTICING

REQUIREMENTS, I UNDERSTAND MAYBE THE DIRECT MAIL PIECES, BUT

AS FAR AS POSTERS AND SIGNAGE, IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THAT WOULD

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BE JUST OUT OF TRANSPARENCY SOMETHING THAT WE OUGHT TO

CONSIDER.

WHAT'S THE RATIONALE FOR US TO ELIMINATE THAT, IF I AM

READING THAT CORRECTLY?

>>KRISTA KELLY: YOU ARE READING THAT CORRECTLY.

THE INTENTION WAS TO ADDRESS A CIRCUMSTANCE, LIKE EVERY

COUPLE YEARS THE ELAPP PROGRAM COMES WITH MULTIPLE

PROPERTIES THAT ARE EXTREMELY LARGE AND COUNTYWIDE, AND IT'S

ONLY TO RECOGNIZE WHAT'S ON THE GROUND.

SO WE RARELY GET ANY OPPOSITION OR EVEN ANY INPUT OR

CONCERN.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT.

THIS ISN'T FINALIZED.

IF THE BOARD PERCEIVES THAT MAYBE SIGNAGE SHOULD STILL BE

REQUIRED.

>>RAY YOUNG: I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO REDUCE COST,

BUT I THINK SINCE THAT IS LANDS THAT THE PUBLIC HAS

PURCHASED, I THINK IT MIGHT BE WISE JUST TO PUT SOMETHING UP

SOMEWHERE SO THAT THE COMMUNITY OR THE PUBLIC MIGHT BE AWARE

THAT SOMETHING IS ABOUT TO TAKE PLACE.

>>KRISTA KELLY: YEAH, THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT.

WE'VE HAD A CIRCUMSTANCE WHEN WE AMENDED THE PLAN TO

RECOGNIZE ALL THE SCHOOLS, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS

THAT CAME UP, THERE WAS SO MUCH SIGNAGE.

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IT'S STILL REQUIRED TO BE ADVERTISED IN THE NEWSPAPER, BUT

WE DEFINITELY WOULD CONSIDER THAT.

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER YOUNG.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS?

THANK YOU, MS. KELLY.

>>KRISTA KELLY: THANK YOU.

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER 8 ON OUR

AGENDA, A PRESENTATION ON THE TRANSPORTATION VULNERABILITY

STUDY.

ALLISON YEH.

>>ALLISON YEH: GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.

ALLISON YEH WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE MPO, ALONG WITH OUR PARTNERS AT

UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA, THE TAMPA BAY REGIONAL PLANNING

COUNCIL, AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS, HAS BEEN

INVOLVED IN A FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION-FUNDED

TRANSPORTATION VULNERABILITY STUDY, LOOKING AT THE

TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS VULNERABILITY EXTREME WEATHER

CONDITIONS.

WE ARE ENDING NEAR THE END OF OUR RESEARCH PROJECT, AND WE

HAVE OUR CONSULTANT HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU THE FINDINGS OF

THAT REPORT.

I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP JOSH WITH CAMBRIDGE SYSTEMATICS,

WHO LED THE STUDY.

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THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, ALLISON.

THANKS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR HAVING ME THIS

AFTERNOON.

SO AS ALLISON MENTIONED, THIS IS -- SORRY.

I HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE ORIENTATION OF THIS MICROPHONE

HERE.

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: WE NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE

RECORD, TOO.

>> MY NAME AND ADDRESS?

JOSH DEFLORIO, 148 WILLOW STREET, BROOKLYN, NEW YORK.

SO I AM HERE TO PRESENT THE RESULTS OF A FEDERAL HIGHWAY

ADMINISTRATION VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT PILOT.

AS THE TEXT SAYS, THIS WAS A FEDERALLY FUNDED PROJECT TO

ASSESS THE CLIMATE CHANGE VULNERABILITY OF THE

TRANSPORTATION SECTOR IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.

IT WAS ONE OF 19 PILOTS CONDUCTED NATIONWIDE, ACTUALLY, ALL

OF WHICH ARE WRAPPING UP AT ABOUT THIS POINT IN TIME.

IT WAS PAIRED WITH A COMPLEMENTARY EFFORT THAT USED VERY

SIMILAR METHODOLOGIES, REALLY LEVERAGED THE PILOT EFFORT,

WHICH WAS AN LRTP UPDATE ON THE REDUCE CRASHES AND

VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT PROGRAM IN THE LRTP, SO I WILL BE

TALKING ABOUT BOTH OF THOSE.

LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE VERY SIMILAR CONCEPTS USING SIMILAR

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METHODOLOGIES.

I WILL TRY NOT TO MIX THEM UP TOO MUCH.

THE REAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO PROGRAMS IS THAT THE

FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION PILOT FOCUSES ON ASSET-

SPECIFIC VULNERABILITIES TO SPECIFIC TRANSPORTATION

FACILITIES THAT ARE CRITICAL TO REGIONAL MOBILITY; WHEREAS,

THE LRTP UPDATE FOCUSES MORE BROADLY ON REGIONAL

TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE.

BOTH OF THESE STUDIES/PROJECTS WERE LED BY THE MPO AND THE

PLANNING COMMISSION WITH PARTNERS.

ALLISON MENTIONED MOST OF THEM EARLIER.

WE STARTED JUST ABOUT A YEAR AGO, AND WE ARE WRAPPING UP

THIS MONTH.

ACTUALLY, I INTEND TO TURN IN THE FINAL REPORT TOMORROW, SO

VERY TIMELY.

SO LET ME TELL YOU A BIT ABOUT THE PILOT SCOPE PROCESS, THE

ASSESSMENT PROCESS.

IT FOLLOWS A FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION VULNERABILITY

ASSESSMENT FRAMEWORK ROUGHLY, BUT EACH VULNERABILITY

ASSESSMENT, INCLUDING THIS ONE, HAS CUSTOMIZED AND ADAPTED

IT FOR THE SPECIFIC PROJECT AND REGIONAL NEEDS.

THE FIRST PHASE OF THE PROJECT WHICH TOOK PLACE LAST FALL

WAS TO COLLECT DATA ON REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION

INFRASTRUCTURE, ALSO TO IDENTIFY POTENTIAL EXTREME WEATHER

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VULNERABILITIES.

WE FOCUSED ON SEA LEVEL RISE, ON STORM SURGE, AND ON INLAND

FLOODING AS WELL FOR THIS PROJECT.

OUR NEXT PHASE WAS TO IDENTIFY CRITICAL AND VULNERABLE

INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE WERE LOOKING FOR FIVE TO TEN HIGH-RISK ASSETS FOR AN

ADAPTATION ASSESSMENT PROCESS.

WE LEVERAGED THE LOCAL MITIGATION STRATEGY WORKING GROUP TO

SELECT, IN THE END, SIX HIGH-RISK ASSETS FOR ASSESSMENT.

WE DEVELOPED ADAPTATION STRATEGIES FOR THESE RISK MANAGEMENT

OR MITIGATION STRATEGIES, MOSTLY PHYSICAL STRATEGIES,

ENGINEERING-BASED STRATEGIES FOR SELECTION OF THESE ASSETS.

AND PHASE FOUR, WHICH IS UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW, IS TO DOCUMENT

THE FINDINGS IN A FINAL REPORT, WHICH WILL BE APPLICABLE

BOTH FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND MPO'S ACTIVITIES, BUT

ALSO SERVE AS DOCUMENTATION OF THIS EFFORT FOR FEDERAL

HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION.

NOW FOR THE LRTP SCOPE AND ASSESSMENT PROCESS.

SO THAT SCOPE WAS A VERY SIMILAR SCOPE, LIKE I SAID, BUT WE

STARTED BY DEVELOPING A RISK SCENARIO, WHICH WAS A SIMULATED

STORM SURGE.

I WILL BE WALKING THROUGH THIS PROCESS IN A MOMENT.

HE ASSESSED THE POTENTIAL DISRUPTION IMPACTS OF THAT

SIMULATED EVENT, AND WE DEVELOPED SORT OF A PACKAGE OF RISK

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MITIGATION STRATEGIES APPLIED AT A REGIONAL LEVEL RATHER

THAN AT AN ASSET-SPECIFIC LEVEL.

AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS WAS UNDER THE REDUCED CRASHES

AND VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT PROGRAM FOR THE LRTP.

SO ONCE AGAIN, PROCEEDING WITH THE LRTP, OUR FIRST STEP WAS

TO DEVELOP THE RISK SCENARIO, SO OUR FIRST STEP HERE WAS TO

SIMULATE A CATEGORY 3 STORM SURGE.

WE ACTUALLY WORKED WITH OUR FRIENDS OVER AT TBRPC IN ORDER

TO DO THIS.

WE USED THE SAME CATEGORY STORM SURGE AND TRAJECTORY AS THE

1921 TARPON SPRINGS EVENT, WHICH WAS THE LAST MAJOR STORM TO

HIT THE REGION, SORT OF AMAZINGLY.

WE SIMULATED IT MAKING LANDFALL AT HIGH TIDE, AND WE ADDED

SEA LEVEL RISE COMMENSURATE WITH EXPECTATIONS TO 2040,

APPROXIMATELY.

STEP 2 WAS TO ASSESS THE POTENTIAL DISRUPTION IMPACTS OF AN

EVENT.

AGAIN, SIMULATED EVENT, AND APPROPRIATELY, WE SIMULATED A

PHASED RECOVERY, LOOKING PRIMARILY AT PHASING RECOVERY BY

FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATION OF THE ASSETS RATHER THAN BY THE

SPECIFIC CHARACTERISTICS OF EACH ASSET.

SO VERY CONSISTENT WITH POST DISASTER RECOVERY PLANS FOR THE

REGION.

WE HAVE INTERSTATES PHASED IN FIRST, THEN MAJOR ARTERIALS,

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THEN FINALLY COLLECTORS AND LOCAL STREETS AS WELL.

WE SIMULATED TRAVEL DISRUPTION USING THE TRAVEL DEMAND MODEL

FOR THE REGION, TBRPM.

WE USED THE 2035 MODEL, WHICH WAS THE LATEST AVAILABLE AT

THE TIME OF THE ASSESSMENT, AND WE DID THAT FOR ALL THREE

PHASES OF RECOVERY.

WE DID THAT SO WE COULD DERIVE THE DAILY CHANGE IN A NUMBER

OF VERY IMPORTANT REGIONAL MOBILITY METRICS, ONE BEING THE

EXPECTED HOURS OF DELAY OVER THE BASELINE CONGESTED

CONDITIONS.

ANOTHER BEING THE ADDITIONAL VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED; IN

OTHER WORDS, WHEN TRIPS ARE DISRUPTED AND NEED TO BE

REROUTED, HOW MANY MORE MILES DO FOLKS NEED TO TRAVEL IN

ORDER TO GO ET TO THEIR DESTINATIONS.

THEN THE POTENTIAL TRIPS LOST BECAUSE THOSE TRIPS CANNOT BE

CONNECTED TO THE NETWORK, THERE'S NO WAY TO ACCESS THE

REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION NETWORK.

THAT WOULD BE PRIMARILY FOR AREAS COMPLETELY INUNDATED OR

WHICH EXPERIENCED SORT OF A CATASTROPHIC INFRASTRUCTURE

FAILURE IN A SPECIFIC LOCALE.

THEN WE ESTIMATED THE RANGE OF POTENTIAL DISRUPTION FOR EACH

OF THESE SCENARIOS, AND IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO PREDICT WHAT

TIMELINE OF DISRUPTION EXACTLY WOULD ATTEND SUCH AN EVENT.

SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE CREATED DISRUPTION AND RECOVERY

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NARRATIVES, SORT OF A RANGE OF FEASIBLE OUTCOMES FROM THE

STORM SURGE, TRYING TO APROXIMATE, LIKE I SAID, A REGIONAL

AND FEASIBLE RANGE FOR HOW QUICKLY THE TRANSPORTATION

NETWORK WOULD BE PHASED BACK ONLINE.

AND FINALLY ACHIEVE FULL FUNCTIONALITY.

WE DID THIS SO WE COULD ONCE AGAIN WORK WITH TBRPC TO MODEL

THE ECONOMIC COSTS FOR THIS DISRUPTION.

WE USED THE ECONOMIC MODEL PACKAGE THEY HAVE CALIBRATED FOR

THIS REGION.

WE MEASURED IMPACTS IN TERMS OF WEEKLY WORK HOURS, OF

INCOME, AND OF GROSS REGIONAL PRODUCT.

AND THE RESULTS -- AND THIS IS, ONCE AGAIN, JUST BASED ON

THESE MOBILITY METRICS, NOT NECESSARILY THE RIPPLE EFFECTS

OF THESE IMPACTS OR BROADER ECONOMIC TRENDS.

THE RESULTS DERIVED FROM THE MOBILITY WERE APPROXIMATE LOSS

OF $109 MILLION OF GROSS REGIONAL PRODUCT FOR EACH WEEK OF

DISRUPTION, ABOUT $66 MILLION IN LOST INCOME FOR EACH WEEK

OF FULL DISRUPTION, AND OVER 2 MILLION LOST WORK HOURS.

WE THEN DEVELOPED A PACKAGE OF RISK MITIGATION SCENARIOS OR

MEASURES ADDRESSING SORT OF EACH FUNDAMENTAL ASPECT OF

VULNERABILITY, WITH THE OBJECTIVE OF LIMITING THE EXPOSURE

OF ASSETS TO STORM SURGE, MITIGATING THE SENSITIVITY OF

THOSE ASSETS ONCE THEY ARE INUNDATED, AND ENHANCING THE

ADAPTIVE CAPACITY OF THOSE ASSETS, WHICH REALLY MEANS

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HASTENING THE RECOVERY THAT THOSE FACILITIES WOULD ALLOW.

THE ILLUSTRATIVE PACKAGE OF RISK MITIGATION STRATEGIES THAT

WE DEVELOPED WAS RAISING THE ROADWAY PROFILE, WHICH IS

ELEVATING THE PROFILE AND ENHANCING THE CROWN.

THAT WAS PAIRED WITH ENHANCING THE ROADWAY BASE IN ORDER TO

WITHSTAND LONGER PERIODS OF SATURATION.

WE LOOKED AT SHORELINE PROTECTION STRATEGIES, INCLUDING WAVE

ATTENUATING DEVICES, AND I WILL SHOW YOU A PICTURE OF THOSE

IN A SECOND, AS WELL AS THE DEPLOYMENT OF RIPRAP ALONG

COASTAL ROADWAYS.

AND WE ALSO LOOKED AT INCREASING DRAINAGE CAPACITY,

UPGRADING TO FLANKING INLETS AND INCREASING CONVEYANCE

CAPACITY OF THOSE PIPES.

IT SHOULD BE SAID THAT WE ASSUMED THAT THESE WOULD BE

INTEGRATED INTO THE NORMAL ASSET RENEWAL CYCLE RATHER THAN,

FOR EXAMPLE, TEARING UP PAVEMENT AND REBUILDING A BASE, WE

ASSUMED THAT ONCE A ROADWAY CAME TO ITS NATURAL

RECONSTRUCTION CYCLE, THESE STRATEGIES WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED

ALMOST AS SUPPLEMENTARY MEASURES.

SO WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT TEARING DOWN BRIDGES AND

BUILDING NEW ONES.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO BUILD MORE

ROBUST STRUCTURES INTEGRATED INTO THE NORMAL ASSET RENEWAL

CYCLE.

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HERE IS A WAVE ATTENUATING DEVICE OR SEVERAL OF THEM.

AND WHAT THEY DO, REALLY, IS REDUCE SORT OF THE HYDROSTATIC

LOADS OF WAVE ACTION ON SHORELINES AND OF SHORELINE

INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL BY DISSIPATING WAVE FORCES.

SO THE ESTIMATED RISK MITIGATION BENEFITS.

ONCE AGAIN, I THINK THIS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AN

ILLUSTRATIVE RESULT, BUT WHAT WE LOOKED AT SHOWED US THAT WE

HAD AN APPROXIMATE RESULT OF -- APPROXIMATE NET BENEFIT --

AND THIS IS NOT A NET PRESENT VALUE; THIS IS JUST A SIMPLE

ARITHMETIC BENEFIT WHERE WE TAKE THE POTENTIAL COSTS OF

DISRUPTION OR THE POTENTIAL ECONOMIC IMPACTS OF DISRUPTION,

WE SUBTRACT THE MARGINAL COSTS OF OUR PACKAGE OF ADAPTATION

STRATEGIES, AND WE LOOK AT WHAT THE NET RESULT WOULD BE.

AND WE SEE APPROXIMATELY A $35 MILLION TO $82 MILLION NET

BENEFIT SHOULD THESE PROACTIVE MEASURES, THESE MEASURES THAT

REALLY ENHANCE THE PREPAREDNESS OF THE REGION AND OF THE

SYSTEM, BE IMPLEMENTED, AND SHOULD THIS CATEGORY 3 STORM

SURGE OCCUR.

THIS IS A GOOD STOPPING POINT IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS,

OR SHOULD WE JUST PROCEED THROUGH?

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: PROCEED THROUGH.

>> OKAY.

SO NOW TO TURN ATTENTION BACK TO THE PILOT STUDY.

AS I MENTIONED, WE CONDUCTED A PILOT STUDY FOR FEDERAL

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HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION -- OR NOT FOR, BUT ON BEHALF OF THE

FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION USING SOME FEDERAL FUNDS, AND

WE STUDIED SIX DIFFERENT ASSETS, A SEGMENT OF MEMORIAL

HIGHWAY, A SEGMENT OF SOUTH 20th AND 22nd STREET -- REALLY A

FUNDAMENTAL FREIGHT CORRIDOR -- ENTRANCE RAMPS FOR THE

SELMON EXPRESSWAY OFF THE GANDY AS WELL AS DALE MABRY, A

SMALL SEGMENT OF GANDY BOULEVARD, A SEGMENT OF COURTNEY

CAMPBELL CAUSEWAY REALLY CONNECTED TO THE MEMORIAL HIGHWAY

SEGMENT THAT WE LOOKED AT, AND A SEGMENT OF I-75 OVER THE

ALAFIA RIVER.

I SHOULD SAY THAT FURTHER EXAMINATION, THAT PARTICULAR ASSET

WASN'T AFFECTED BY ANY OF THE FLOODING SCENARIOS OR THE

INUNDATION SCENARIOS THAT WE STUDIED.

SO TO SHOW YOU AN ILLUSTRATIVE RESULT HERE, LIKE I SAID, WE

HAVE FIVE OF THESE ASSESSMENTS, BUT THE MEMORIAL HIGHWAY

ASSESSMENT GIVES US A GOOD REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE OF THE

TIMELINE -- THE ASSESSMENT ACTIONS AS WELL AS THE RESULTS OF

THE ASSESSMENT.

SO THIS IS A VERY CRITICAL FACILITY TO REGIONAL MOBILITY.

IT CARRIES ABOUT AN AVERAGE OF 158,000 VEHICLES PER DAY.

IT WAS RECENTLY REHABILITATED AS WELL IN 2010 AS PART OF A

LARGER PROJECT.

WHAT WE DID WAS WE LOOKED AT THE POTENTIAL PROFILE OF

INUNDATION.

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SO WE TOOK A CATEGORY 1 STORM SURGE WITH SEA LEVEL RISING,

CATEGORY 3 STORM SURGE WITH SEA LEVEL RISE COMMENSURATE WITH

PROJECTIONS FOR 2040.

AND WE LOOKED AT THE PROFILE OF THE ROADWAY.

AND THE BEST WAY TO LOOK AT THIS EXAMPLE IS THE GREEN LINE

REPRESENTS THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE.

SORT OF THE LIGHT ORANGE LINE REPRESENTS A CATEGORY, THE

MAXIMUM HEIGHT OR DEPTH OF INUNDATION FOR A CATEGORY 1 STORM

SURGE.

AND THE LARGER, THE DARKER -- SORRY.

THE DARKER ORANGE LINE REPRESENTS THE MAXIMUM DEPTH OF

INUNDATION FOR A CATEGORY 3 STORM SURGE.

SO WE LOOK AT POTENTIAL AREAS OF THE MEMORIAL HIGHWAY

SEGMENT THAT MAY BE INUNDATED IN SUCH AN EVENT.

IT'S EASIER TO WRAP YOUR MIND AROUND FROM A PLAN VIEW.

SO YOU CAN SEE HERE IN BLUE WE SEE THE AREAS OF PROJECTED

INUNDATION.

AREAS ALONG THE ROADWAY THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED WOULD BE

INUNDATED BASED ON THE CURRENT ELEVATION OF THE ROADWAY.

SO THIS IS A CATEGORY 1 STORM SURGE, ONCE AGAIN, WITH SEA

LEVEL RISE SCENARIO FOR 2040.

ALSO, ASSUMING THAT THE STORM SURGE HITS AT HIGH TIDE.

AND THIS IS INUNDATION WITH A CATEGORY 3 STORM SURGE AS

WELL.

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SO CATEGORY 3 STORM SURGE, YOU WOULD HAVE NEARLY 1.1 MILES

OF THE 1.7-MILE SEGMENT OF MEMORIAL HIGHWAY THAT WE ASSESSED

INUNDATED.

AND HERE'S OUR FEMA 1% CHANCE FLOOD.

THIS IS THE PREVAILING FEMA FLOODPLAIN.

THE COUNTY I BELIEVE IS NEARLY FINISHED WITH AN UPDATED

FLOODPLAIN, WHICH IS NOT REFLECTED HERE.

SO THESE ARE THE ESTIMATED IMPACTS OF DISRUPTION IN TERMS OF

MOBILITY LOSSES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.

YOU CAN SEE WE BROKE THEM UP INTO TRIP TYPES, SO WE HAVE

LEISURE TRAVEL DATA, WE HAVE COMMUTE TRIPS, WE HAVE BUSINESS

AND ON-THE-CLOCK TRIPS, AND WE HAVE TRUCK TRIPS AS WELL.

AND JUST AS WITH THE LRTP UPDATE, WE LOOKED AT THE CHANGE IN

VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED.

WE LOOKED AT THE CHANGE IN VEHICLE HOURS OF DELAY.

AND WE LOOKED AT THE POTENTIAL LOST TRIPS ASSOCIATED WITH AN

INUNDATION SCENARIO.

WE USED THESE MOBILITY METRICS ONCE AGAIN, USING THE REMI

ECONOMETRIC MODEL TO PROJECT POTENTIAL WEEKLY LOSSES IN

GROSS REGIONAL PRODUCT, WHICH WE SEE IS ABOUT $16 MILLION IN

INCOME, WHICH IS ABOUT $8 MILLION, AND WORK HOURS, WHICH IS

ABOUT $223 MILLION.

IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT I THINK THESE PROJECTIONS

UNDERREPRESENT THE IMPACT OF INUNDATION OF THESE FACILITIES

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BECAUSE WE ISOLATE THEM IN THE TRAVEL DEMAND MODEL.

SO EFFECTIVELY, WE DISABLE THESE LINKS, TURN THEM OFF, BUT

ADJACENT TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE AND CONNECTING

TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE REMAINS CAPABLE OF CARRYING

TRAFFIC.

IN A MORE REALISTIC STORM SURGE SCENARIO, WE WOULD SEE A

MUCH BROADER EXTENT OF INUNDATION AND LOSS OF FUNCTIONAL

CAPACITY FOR THESE FACILITIES.

BUT I STILL THINK THIS IS A VALUABLE SORT OF ILLUSTRATIVE

VIEW AND A COMPARATIVE VIEW ACROSS PROJECTS OF HOW THEY MAY

BE AFFECTED AND HOW THEY MIGHT BE AFFECTING REGIONAL

MOBILITY AND THE ECONOMY AS A RESULT.

ONCE AGAIN, WE USED A PACKAGE OF POTENTIAL MITIGATION

STRATEGIES COMMENSURATE WITH THESE IMPACTS, AND THEY ARE OF

THE SAME FLAVOR AS WE USED FOR THE LRTP UPDATE, SO WE HAVE

DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, WE HAVE AN ENHANCEMENT OF THE ROADWAY

PROFILE, WE HAVE FORCE ATTENUATION STRATEGIES.

SO THIS IS WAVE ATTENUATING DEVICES, THIS IS RIPRAP AND

OTHER SHORELINE STABILIZATION.

AND THE ILLUSTRATIVE MARGINAL COSTS OF THESE STRATEGIES,

ONCE AGAIN, MARGINAL COST, WOULD BE ABOUT $4.2 MILLION.

AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THE POTENTIAL AVOIDED LOSSES BASED ON

THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THESE STRATEGIES, FOR A CATEGORY 1

STORM SURGE, OUR PROJECTIONS -- AND THESE, I SHOULD SAY,

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DON'T BOUND THE RANGE OF PROJECTIONS.

THEY ARE JUST A FEASIBLE LOW AND A FEASIBLE HIGH.

BUT, IN FACT, PARTICULARLY IF WE LOOK AT THE TAILS OF THAT

DISTRIBUTION, EFFECTS COULD BE SIGNIFICANTLY WORSE OR THEY

COULD BE FAIRLY NEGLIGIBLE.

BUT FOR A CATEGORY 1 STORM SURGE, OUR ILLUSTRATIVE AVOIDED

LOSSES ARE ABOUT $2 MILLION TO $8 MILLION, DEPENDING ON THE

SEVERITY OF THE EVENT.

FOR A CATEGORY 3 STORM SURGE, IT'S ABOUT $11 MILLION TO $21

MILLION.

AND THIS IS ON A WEEK -- THIS IS ESTIMATED ON A WEEKLY

BASIS, SO FOR EVERY WEEK THAT THAT SEGMENT OF MEMORIAL

HIGHWAY IS NOT CARRYING TRAFFIC, THESE WOULD BE THE

POTENTIAL AVOIDED LOSSES.

ANOTHER FIGURE THAT WE LOOK AT, WHICH I THINK IS A REALLY

INTERESTING AND ILLUSTRATIVE METRIC, IS THE TIPPING POINT.

REALLY, A VERY SIMPLE SORT OF METRIC OF THE POINT AFTER

WHICH THE STRATEGY PAYS FOR ITSELF IN SIMPLE SORT OF

ECONOMIC TERMS.

IF WE AVOID 1.3 DAYS OF DISRUPTION ON MEMORIAL HIGHWAY FOR A

PACKAGE OF MITIGATION STRATEGIES THAT COST ABOUT $4.2

MILLION, THAT STRATEGY HAS EFFECTIVELY PAID FOR ITSELF.

AND THAT'S IT.

I WELCOME YOUR QUESTIONS.

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>>DEREK DOUGHTY: THANK YOU, MR. DEFLORIO.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION?

I THOUGHT I SAW ONE COMING.

NO?

[LAUGHTER]

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 9 ON OUR AGENDA, MIXED USE AND STRIP

COMMERCIAL POLICIES DRAFT FOR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.

MS. STENMARK.

>>MARCIE STENMARK: GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.

MARCIE STENMARK, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.

IT IS MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE TO YOU TODAY AMY GROVES WITH

DOVER AND ASSOCIATES, AND BILL SPIKOWSKI WITH SPIKOWSKI

PLANNING ASSOCIATES.

AS YOU RECALL, WE HAD A WORKSHOP WITH YOU ALL IN MAY TO TALK

ABOUT SOME PRELIMINARY SUGGESTIONS AND FINDINGS, AND AT THIS

STAGE, WE HAVE A VERY STRONG FINAL -- ALMOST FINAL --

DOCUMENT IN HAND THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO YOU IN YOUR

BACKUP.

SO THE CONSULTANT TEAM IS HERE TODAY TO PRESENT THEIR

FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU ON THIS PROJECT AND IT

GET ANY FEEDBACK, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

WITH THAT, I WILL GIVE PRESENTATION OVER TO BILL AND AMY.

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THANK YOU.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON.

I AM AMY GROVES WITH DOVER KOHL & PARTNERS.

OUR CHALLENGE FOR THIS PROJECT WAS PROVIDING A COMPREHENSIVE

PLAN TO DISCOURAGE STRIP COMMERCIAL AND ENCOURAGE QUALITY

MIXED USE.

WE ARE LOOKING TO PROVIDE COMMON TERMINOLOGY AND FRAMEWORK

FOR ALL FOUR JURISDICTIONS, COUNTY, PLANT CITY, TEMPLE

TERRACE, AND TAMPA.

AND ALSO RECOGNIZING NEW REALITIES OF CURRENT MARKET

CONDITIONS AS WELL AS THE VISIONS OF THE 2040 PLAN.

SO WE STARTED OUR PROCESS IN MARCH.

WE MET WITH STAFF AND HAD A KICKOFF AND STATE TOUR AND

TOURED REPRESENTATIVE CORRIDORS IN ALL FOUR AREAS.

WE ALSO, IN APRIL, DID SOME CASE STUDY EXAMPLES OF HOW THIS

ISSUE IS -- BOTH THE STRIP COMMERCIAL AND MIXED USE IS DONE

IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS, LOOKING AT SIX FLORIDA COUNTIES, ONE

CITY, AND ALSO NATIONAL EXAMPLES.

THOSE I SHOULD MENTION ARE ALL PART OF THE APPENDICES OF THE

REPORT THAT YOU ALL SHOULD HAVE.

ALSO IN APRIL WE HAD FOCUS GROUP SESSIONS, SO WE MET WITH

CITY AND COUNTY STAFF, DEVELOPMENT AND COMMUNITY LEADERS,

AND WE HAD THIS SESSION ORGANIZED BY LOCATION, SO WE HAD

SEPARATE TABLES FOR THE COUNTY AND EACH OF THE CITIES SO WE

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COULD GET INTO DETAILS OF WHAT THEIR SPECIFIC CHALLENGES

WERE, AND ALSO LOOKING AT THE CASE STUDIES AND TALKING ABOUT

WHAT APPROACHES COULD BE APPLICABLE.

IN MAY THROUGH JUNE, WE PRODUCED A POLICY FRAMEWORK, SO THAT

DESCRIBED OUR GENERAL APPROACH, AND THEN WE WORKED THROUGH

JULY THROUGH AUGUST TO CREATE THE FINAL POLICY DOCUMENT YOU

ALL HAVE.

SO THAT HAS THE REFINED NARRATIVE AS WELL AS PROPOSED

DEFINITIONS, POLICIES, AND STRATEGIES WHICH COULD BE USED IN

ALL FOUR JURISDICTIONS.

I SHOULD NOTE THAT THE FRAMEWORK FOR THIS IS SET UP IN THE

SAME WAY THAT THE COUNTY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN THAT

POLICIES ARE A STATEMENT OF INTENT AND GENERAL DIRECTIONS;

WHEREAS, STRATEGIES ARE SPECIFIC ACTIONS OR TECHNIQUES THAT

COULD BE USED.

THAT'S THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE TWO.

JUST LOOKING FIRST AT THE CONCEPTUAL FRAMEWORK, HOW COULD WE

ORGANIZE THIS, WE LOOKED AT THE AREA, IT WAS SO HUGE AND SO

MANY DIFFERENT AREAS, THAT IT BECAME OBVIOUS ONE SET OF

POLICIES WAS NOT GOING TO APPLY.

WE STARTED TO LOOK AT HOW WE COULD MAKE THAT CONTEXT

SPECIFIC.

SO FIRST WE LOOKED AT ALL OF THE DIFFERENT COMMERCIAL AREAS

AND TRIED TO COME UP WITH COMMON TERMINOLOGY.

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FOR EXAMPLE, THESE ARE THE SUBURBAN AREAS, SO THERE'S

SUBURBAN STRIP AND THERE'S ALSO A SHOPPING CENTER, SHOPPING

MALLS, AND THOSE CONTRAST WITH THE DOWNTOWN MAIN STREETS AND

WHAT WE CALL SHOPPING DISTRICTS, WHICH ARE AREAS THAT ARE

MORE URBAN IN CHARACTER HAVING STREET-ORIENTED BUILDINGS.

AND YOU'LL FIND IN THE REPORT THERE'S ALSO A WRITTEN VERBAL

DESCRIPTION OF EACH OF THESE AREAS, KIND OF CREATING THAT

COMMON TERMINOLOGY THAT CAN THEN BE USED IN THE POLICIES.

WE ALSO LOOKED AT FOUR DISTINCT URBAN PATTERNS THAT COULD BE

USED AND SPECIFIC POLICIES CRAFTED FOR EACH OF THEM.

SO COMPACT URBAN AS WELL AS CONNECTED SUBURBAN, MODERN

SUBURBAN, AND RURAL AREAS.

I AM GOING TO SPEND A MINUTE JUST GOING THROUGH WHAT EACH OF

THOSE MEANS.

SO COMPACT URBAN, AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE DOWNTOWN TAMPA.

YOU SEE THE STREETS FORM AN INTERCONNECTED NETWORK OF

TRADITIONAL CITY BLOCKS, TRADITIONALLY LOTS OF MIX OF USES

HAPPEN IN THESE AREAS.

CONNECTED SUBURBAN, THE MIX OF USES IS A LITTLE BIT LESS

INTENSITY, USUALLY THE BLOCKS ARE A LITTLE LARGER.

THE IMPORTANT THING IS THAT THERE IS CONNECTION AT LEAST

EVERY QUARTER-MILE INTERVAL TO MOVE THROUGH THE AREA.

THIS EXAMPLE I PICKED HAD A VERY STRUCTURED BLOCK PATTERN,

BUT AS YOU SEE FROM THIS SLIDE, IT COULD ALSO HAVE MORE

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SUBURBAN AREAS BETWEEN, A LESS REGULAR STREET GRID, BUT THE

BLOCK PATTERN MAY BE MORE IRREGULAR, BUT JUST MAINTAINING

THAT MINIMUM LEVEL OF CONNECTIVITY AS THE DEFINING FEATURE

OF THIS PATTERN.

THE MODERN SUBURBAN AREAS ARE MORE WHERE THERE'S LESS

CONNECTION, SO THERE'S LARGE SUPERBLOCKS AND SINGLE-PURPOSE

PODS, AND THE COMMERCIAL, WHERE IT IS PRESENT, IS ON WIDE

COMMERCIAL ARTERIAL ROADS, SEPARATED FROM THE OTHER USES.

BILL IS GOING TO SPEAK FOR A FEW MINUTES ABOUT THE SPECIFIC

POLICIES.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON.

BILL SPIKOWSKI, SPIKOWSKI PLANNING ASSOCIATES FROM FORT

MYERS.

IT WAS REALLY A PLEASURE ON THIS PROJECT TO DEAL WITH A

COMMUNITY WHERE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS ALREADY USE COMMON

TERMINOLOGY AND ARE RELATED TO EACH OTHER YET DIFFERENTIATE

IMPORTANT CHANGES BECAUSE THAT'S A RARE EXCEPTION AROUND THE

STATE.

I AM REALLY GLAD YOU ARE PLANNING TO CONTINUE THAT WITH THE

SAME VIGOR.

THE STRIP COMMERCIAL POLICIES IN THE DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES

ARE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, BUT THEY ALSO FOLLOW COMMON

TERMINOLOGIES.

FOR INSTANCE, IN TAMPA, THE GENERAL AND NEIGHBORHOOD

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COMMERCIAL, WHICH APPLIES TO THE RESIDENTIAL AND SUBURBAN

CATEGORIES, AND THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT IN TAMPA BECAUSE OF

ITS DEVELOPED STATE THAN IT IS IN SOME OF THE OTHER

COMMUNITIES.

TEMPLE TERRACE, FOR INSTANCE, ONLY ON ITS COMMERCIAL

POLICIES ONLY APPLIES TO RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

PLANT CITY IS SIMILAR BUT GETS A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC IN

TERMS OF HOW FAR OUT FROM AN INTERSECTION IS SUITABLE FOR

COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

THE MOST COMPLICATED IS UNINCORPORATED HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY

BECAUSE THE COUNTY IS THE MOST COMPLICATED PART, AND THERE'S

SO MUCH UNDEVELOPED LAND AND SO MUCH DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY,

AND THE SYSTEM THE COUNTY USES IS OBVIOUSLY MORE COMPLEX AND

HAS A GREATER NUMBER OF VARIABLES ABOUT HOW FAR FROM AN

INTERSECTION MIGHT BE SUITABLE FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

WHAT WE ARE SUGGESTING IS YOU BUILD ON THE BEST OF WHAT YOU

ALREADY HAVE DONE BUT WITH SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT TERMINOLOGY

THAT WILL BE A LITTLE BETTER SUITED TO SORT OF TAKING ALL

THIS TO THE NEXT LEVEL.

FIRST WE ARE SUGGESTING YOU ACTUALLY USE THE TERM

"COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS," WHICH DOESN'T MEAN THEY ARE GOING TO

BE ALL COMMERCIAL, BUT THESE ARE AREAS WHERE THERE'S

POTENTIAL FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

NOW, HOW WILL YOU DEFINE WHAT COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS ARE CAN

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EVOLVE OVER TIME AND DOESN'T NEED TO BE THE SAME FOR EACH

JURISDICTION.

FOR THE COUNTY, BECAUSE IT'S SO COMPLICATED, YOU HAVE BEEN

USING THE HIGHWAY COST AFFORDABLE MAP FROM THE MPO BECAUSE

IT HAS A BASE MAP THAT SHOWS BASICALLY THE ARTERIAL AND

COLLECTOR ROADS THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE COUNTY.

SO YOU CAN CONTINUE USING THAT.

WE ARE SUGGESTING YOU DO THAT FOR NOW, BUT THAT YOU ACTUALLY

LOOK AT SOME ALTERNATIVES IN THE FUTURE TO THAT.

THIS IS A CLOSE-UP OF THAT PARTICULAR MAP OUT NEAR THE

AIRPORT, THE LOWER RIGHT PORTION HERE IS IN THE CITY OF

TAMPA, AND THE UPPER LEFT IS IN THE UNINCORPORATED COUNTY.

THERE'S A LOT OF VERY MINOR ROADS ON THIS MAP THAT END UP

BEING POTENTIALLY SUITABLE FOR COMMERCIAL THAT REALLY

SHOULDN'T.

THEY ARE IN COMPLETELY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

AS FAR AS WHAT KIND OF ALTERNATIVES MIGHT YOU HAVE, THERE'S

ACTUALLY ONE THAT'S IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALREADY.

IT ALSO COMES FROM THE MPO, BUT IT'S CALLED THE LOCAL

FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATION MAP AND HAS A LOT OF THE SAME

ROADS, BUT IT BREAKS THEM DOWN BY CHARACTER SO THAT THE

BLACK DOTTED LINES ARE ALL THE COLLECTOR STREETS.

MOST OF THOSE REALLY DON'T BELONG AS COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS.

SOME OF THEM DEFINITELY DO.

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AND OF COURSE, THE LIMITED ACCESS HIGHWAYS DON'T AND WOULD

NEED TO COME OFF.

BUT THIS ACTUALLY WOULD BE A GOOD BASE MAP FOR TAKING THIS

TO THE NEXT LEVEL IN THE COUNTY.

AT LEAST UNTIL THE POINT WHERE YOU ACTUALLY ARE ABLE TO MAP

THESE INTERSECTIONS MORE SPECIFICALLY AND SORT OF BEING

BASED ON AN MPO MAP.

BUT A LOT OF THOSE BLACK DOTTED LINES YOU CAN SEE GO THROUGH

STRICTLY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND REALLY DON'T BELONG

HERE.

SO ALONG THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS WHERE TWO OF THOSE

INTERSECT OR WHETHER THERE'S CERTAIN MAJOR LOCAL ROADWAYS

THAT SHOULD MAKE IT QUALIFY, THOSE WOULD BE COMMERCIAL

CORRIDOR INTERSECTIONS.

THAT'S THE TERMINOLOGY WE ARE SUGGESTING YOU USE IN ALL THE

PLANS.

AND IN THOSE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR INTERSECTION, THERE ARE

CERTAIN -- IN THE REPORT -- CERTAIN SPECIFIC POLICIES THAT

WOULD APPLY TO THE CITIES AND THE COUNTY ABOUT THE -- TAKING

THE CONTEXT EXAMPLES THAT AMY JUST TALKED ABOUT AND HOW

COMMERCIAL AREAS SHOULD BE DIFFERENT AND COMPACT URBAN

AREAS, HOW THEY SHOULD BE DIFFERENT THAN IN CONNECTED

SUBURBAN AREAS AND HOW THEY SHOULD BE DIFFERENT IN MODERN

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SUBURBAN AREAS.

THESE ARE THE GENERAL POLICIES.

BUT THEN WE ALSO INCLUDE IN THE REPORT SPECIFIC POLICIES FOR

EACH CITY THAT WOULD SUPPLEMENT THIS GENERAL SYSTEM.

WE WISH THERE WERE A SIMPLER WAY.

WE DON'T THINK THERE IS.

WE THINK THIS IS AS SIMPLE AS YOU CAN GET AND STILL RESPECT

THE DIFFERENCES.

BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR INTERSECTIONS, WE FEEL THAT

MORE ATTENTION ACTUALLY NEEDS TO BE PAID TO THOSE.

SO IF THEY'RE NOT SUITABLE FOR COMMERCIAL, WHAT ARE THEY

SUITABLE FOR?

THAT'S NOT A SUBJECT THAT YOUR PLAN SHOULD BE SILENT ABOUT.

AND IT'S NOT AN EASY QUESTION, BUT FOR INSTANCE, IN THE

ABSENCE OF ANYTHING ELSE, THEY MIGHT HAVE A PATTERN LIKE

THIS THAT HAS SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS FACING RIGHT ON THE

ARTERIAL, AND IN THE DAYS WHEN THERE WASN'T SO MUCH TRAFFIC,

THAT WAS FINE, BUT NOWADAYS PEOPLE TURN THEIR BACKS AND PUT

A WALL ALONG THE ARTERIAL.

THAT'S AN ALTERNATIVE, AN INCREASINGLY COMMON ONE.

THERE ARE OTHER ALTERNATIVES BESIDES THOSE, AND MIXED-USE

ALTERNATIVES CAN PROVIDE A VALUABLE SEPARATION BETWEEN THE

NOISY ARTERIAL AND THE QUIET NEIGHBORHOODS BEHIND AND A LOT

OF REAL ESTATE VALUE TOO FOR LAND THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE

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ABSOLUTELY ALL RESIDENTIAL OR ABSOLUTELY ALL COMMERCIAL.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE POLICIES AGAIN FOR EACH OF THOSE BY CONTEXT

TIMELINE, CONTEXT URBAN AND CONNECTED SUBURBAN AND MODERN

SUBURBAN.

SO THAT'S THE BROAD FRAMEWORK FOR COMMERCIAL.

NOW, ON MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS OUR OTHER LARGE

ASSIGNMENT AGAIN, IT'S STRIKING AND PLEASANT TO SEE HOW

EXTENSIVE THE MIXED-USE CATEGORIES ARE IN ALL OF YOUR

COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THERE ARE MANY COMMUNITIES, CITIES ESPECIALLY, AND ALSO

QUITE A FEW COUNTIES WHO DON'T MAKE A LOT OF USE OF MIXED

USE CATEGORIES, AND SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENDS UP

BECOMING LIKE A BIG ZONING MAP, THAT THIS IS RESIDENTIAL,

THIS GIANT AREA IS RESIDENTIAL, AND IF YOU WANT ANYTHING

OTHER THAN RESIDENTIAL, YOU NEED TO COME IN AND CHANGE THE

COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH IS REALLY AN AWKWARD WAY TO DO

THINGS.

SO YOU HAVE THAT THROUGHOUT ALL YOUR JURISDICTIONS.

AGAIN, THE TERMINOLOGY IS SIMILAR, BUT THE DENSITY AND

INTENSITY LEVELS ARE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, OBVIOUSLY HIGHER IN

TAMPA AND LOWER IN PLANT CITY.

BUT SORT OF STRIKING ON THIS MAP, YOU SEE ALL THE CITIES AND

THE COUNTY, MOST OF THE COUNTY, AND YOU SEE HOW LARGE THE

MIXED-USE AREAS ARE ALONG INTERSTATE 75.

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VAST AREAS THAT ARE INCREDIBLY DIFFERENT IN CHARACTER,

EXISTING AND PROPOSED, THAN A MIXED-USE CATEGORY IN TAMPA,

AND THAT REALLY EXPLAINS, I THINK, A LOT OF THE TROUBLE

YOU'VE HAD IN TRYING TO USE A SINGLE SET OF POLICIES THAT

APPLY IN SITUATIONS THAT ARE THAT DIFFERENT.

SO ONE OF THE DIFFERENCES IS THE SCALE OF THE LAND AND THE

EXISTING DEVELOPMENT CHARACTER.

ANOTHER ISSUE IS THE TOOLS THAT YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLANS

USE, WHICH ARE PRIMARILY DENSITY AND FLOOR AREA RATIO, AND

IN THE COUNTY, TWO USES IN EACH DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.

THOSE ARE CRUDE TOOLS FOR TRYING TO ACHIEVE MIXED-USE

DEVELOPMENT.

THEY DON'T ENSURE CONNECTIVITY OR WALKABILITY OR FLEXIBILITY

IN URBAN FORMS, AND IN FACT, SOMETIMES THEY WORK AGAINST

THEM.

AND IN GENERAL, WE SUPPORT THE COUNTY AND THE PLANNING

COMMISSION'S DIRECTION TO TAKE A LOT OF THE NUMERICAL ISSUES

OUT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND PUT THEM IN THE

DEVELOPMENT CODE WHERE THEY BELONG, AND WE UNDERSTAND THE

LONG HISTORY OF HOW FLORIDA COMPREHENSIVE PLANS HAVE EMERGED

AND THE ROLE OF THE STATE IN WANTING ALL THIS NUMERICAL

STUFF IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THEY

CONTROLLED.

THEY WANT THEM OUT OF THEIR CONTROL.

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THOSE DAYS HAVE COME AND GONE, AND I THINK YOU HAVE MORE

ABILITY NOW TO DO WHAT'S GOOD FOR YOU AND LESS WHAT'S GOOD

FOR THEM.

SO WE SUGGESTED A NUMBER OF NEW DEFINITIONS ABOUT WHAT MIXED

USE IS AND WHAT IT MEANS.

MAINLY, THE ISSUE ABOUT THE VARIETY OF USES, IF THEY'RE NOT

REALLY WITHIN SORT OF WALKING DISTANCE, IF THEY'RE NOT, THEN

IT REALLY BECOMES A VERY DIFFERENT CHARACTER, AND THAT

CONNECTIVITY ISSUE IS NOT REALLY IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN

POLICIES ON MIXED USE TO THE EXTENT THAT IT NEEDS TO BE.

THAT'S A MAJOR SUGGESTION WE ARE MAKING, THAT THE

DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS NEED TO ADDRESS STREET CONNECTIONS AND

CONNECTIVITY OUTSIDE THEIR DEVELOPMENT RATHER THAN PLANNING

EACH PROJECT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING BY ITSELF RATHER THAN PART

OF A LARGER NEIGHBORHOOD OVER TIME.

AGAIN, WE PROVIDE A SERIES OF POLICIES THAT WILL WORK FOR

THE CITIES AND THE COUNTY TOGETHER, AND THEN MORE SPECIFIC

POLICIES FOR HOW THIS WOULD WORK, AND PARTICULARLY FOR ALL

THE CITIES, BUT WE SPENT MORE EFFORT ON THIS ON THE COUNTY

BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH OF THE UNDEVELOPED MIXED-USE LAND IS

IN THE UNINCORPORATED COUNTY, AND I THINK THE OPPORTUNITIES

ARE THE GREATEST TO DO A BETTER JOB THERE.

SO FOR COUNTY, WE SUGGEST LOWERING THE ACREAGE THRESHOLDS

FOR THE REQUIREMENT THAT THERE BE A SECOND USE BECAUSE IT'S

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BEEN 20 AND 40 ACRES, AND THAT'S A REALLY LARGE TRACT TO

HAVE JUST A SINGLE USE.

BUT YOUR CURRENT POLICIES FOR THE COUNTY NOW SAY THAT THERE

IS NO THRESHOLD AT ALL, AND EVEN A ONE-ACRE PARCEL, IF IT'S

A NEW PLANNED AMENDMENT, HAS TO HAVE MORE THAN ONE USE, AND

THAT'S SORT OF GOING TOO STRICT THE OTHER DIRECTION.

THAT'S REALLY NOT ESSENTIAL IF THERE'S COMPLEMENTARY USES

PRACTICALLY NEXT DOOR.

SO I'LL CALL IT A LOOPHOLE, I GUESS, WHERE YOU NEED TO HAVE

A SECOND USE, BUT IT CAN BE A TOKEN RATHER THAN SOMETHING

REAL, AND WE PUT ACTUALLY -- HERE'S A CASE WHERE WE DO THINK

A NUMERICAL CRITERIA WOULD BE USEFUL TO YOU IN YOUR REVIEW

OF ZONING CASES.

WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED, IN ADDITION TO THE COMMERCIAL AND

MIXED-USE POLICIES, A NUMBER OF DESIGN POLICIES AND

STRATEGIES BROKEN, REALLY, INTO TWO PARTS.

ONE HAS TO DO WITH STREETS, AND THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT

PART OF URBAN DESIGN.

IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT BUILDINGS.

AND THE STREETS ARE BROKEN INTO TWO PIECES.

ONE IS THE STREET NETWORK, POLICIES FOR CREATING THE STREET

NETWORK, PARTICULARLY THE CONNECTIVITY ISSUES I'VE ALREADY

TALKED ABOUT AND THE OTHER HALF OF THAT, WHICH IS WHEN YOU

GET DOWN TO THE DESIGN OF THE STREET ITSELF, HOW THE DESIGN

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OF THE STREET ITSELF ALSO SHOULD VARY BASED ON WHETHER THE

CONTEXT IS URBAN OR SUBURBAN OR RURAL.

WE ALSO INCLUDE SPECIFIC POLICY -- DESIGN POLICIES ABOUT

BUILDINGS AND DEVELOPMENTS AS WELL AS THE STREET DESIGN

POLICIES.

NOW, A LOT OF THESE KINDS OF DETAIL REALLY BELONG IN THE

LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, BUT THERE'S REALLY NOTHING

WRONG WITH PUTTING THE GENERAL LANGUAGE IN YOUR

COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THEY WILL GUIDE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS LATER AND ALSO

GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO GO BY WHEN YOU ARE REVIEWING REZONING

CASES.

WE HAVE INCLUDED TOWARD THE BACK OF YOUR REPORT A NUMBER OF

ILLUSTRATED EXAMPLES THAT WE THINK WOULD BE OF INTEREST, AND

ONE HAS TO DO WITH THIS ISSUE THAT I ALLUDED TO EARLIER

ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL INTERSECTIONS AND COMMERCIAL SEGMENTS

IN BETWEEN THE STRIP COMMERCIAL PATTERN WHERE THE INDIVIDUAL

LOTS ARE MAYBE AN ACRE AND THEY ALL FACE OUT ON THE ARTERIAL

AND HAVE THEIR OWN DRIVEWAY AND OWN PARKING LOTS.

THE PATTERN THAT TENDS TO HAPPEN NATURALLY, I GUESS YOU

MIGHT SAY, IN ABSENCE OF PUBLIC POLICY SAYING THAT THERE'S A

LOT OF REASONS NOT TO DO THAT.

THERE'S THE TWO I SHOWED YOU EARLIER, NO COMMERCIAL AT ALL,

STRICTLY RESIDENTIAL, EITHER FACING TOWARD THE ROAD OR

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FACING IN.

BUT THERE'S OTHER ALTERNATIVES.

SOME COMMUNITIES IN FLORIDA WHO HAVE A TREND OF STRIP

COMMERCIAL HAVE FOUND A BETTER WAY TO DEAL WITH STRIP

COMMERCIAL, WHICH INVOLVES A SECONDARY -- A REVERSE ACCESS

ROAD, A REVERSE DRIVEWAY, OR A ROAD ON THE BACK THAT

PROVIDES A LOT OF THE INTERNAL ACCESS BETWEEN COMMERCIAL

PARCELS SO PEOPLE GOING FROM PARCEL TO PARCEL DON'T HAVE TO

GO OUT ONTO THE ARTERIAL.

AND OF COURSE, THE MORE EVOLVED MIXED-USE SCENARIO THAT,

LIKE I SAY, ADDS A LOT OF REAL ESTATE VALUE AND SEPARATES

THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS BETTER FROM THE NOISE AND ACTIVITY OF

THE COMMERCIAL.

AND WE TALK ABOUT TECHNIQUES THAT YOU CAN USE TO IMPLEMENT

IDEAS LIKE THAT, GENERALLY UNDER THE TERMINOLOGY OF

REGULATING PLANS THAT CAN BECOME PART OF REZONING

APPLICATIONS OR CAN BECOME PART OF YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT

CODE THAT PROVIDE THE KEY MOST IMPORTANT INFORMATION ON

CONNECTIVITY AND LEVELS OF INTENSITY BUT DON'T GET INTO

ZONING LEVEL DETAIL ABOUT SPECIFIC USES.

WE ALSO, AT THE END, TALK ABOUT WHAT WE DEFINE AS A COUPLE

MISSING SCALES OF PLANNING, AND THIS IDEA OF URBAN AND

SUBURBAN CONTEXT, WE -- OUR DIRECT RECOMMENDATIONS FOR YOUR

PLANS NEXT YEAR IS ACTUALLY TO MAKE SOME CASE-BY-CASE

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DECISIONS ON THAT AT THE REZONING STAGE.

THAT'S A STOPGAP, SOMETHING YOU CAN DO RIGHT NOW.

BUT IN THE LONG RUN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT REALLY SHOULD BE

DONE MORE BROADLY ACROSS THE JURISDICTIONS IN ADVANCE AND

NOT JUST IN THE HEAT OF INDIVIDUAL REZONING BATTLES.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE ARE SOME PLACES WHERE THE

EXISTING CONTEXT MIGHT REALLY BE DUE FOR CHANGE.

IT MIGHT BE AN OLD, DYING COMMERCIAL STRIP.

SO IT HAS ONE CLASSIFICATION BASED ON ITS CURRENT CONTEXT,

BUT IN FACT, THAT AREA IS RIPE FOR REDEVELOPMENT IN A MUCH

MORE INTENSE WAY.

SO YOUR CONTEXT MAPPING HAS TWO LAYERS; IT HAS THE EXISTING

CONTEXT AND BETTER ALTERNATIVES FOR AREAS THAT ARE IN

TRANSITION OR COULD BE OR MIGHT BE IN THE PLANNING

TIMEFRAME.

AND THIS IS REALLY NOT JUST ABOUT HELPING YOU PLAN NEW

DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT REALLY IS AN IMPORTANT INFRASTRUCTURE

ISSUE BECAUSE ONCE THESE CONTEXT AREAS ARE IDENTIFIED,

FLORIDA DOT AND YOUR COUNTY AND CITY DOTs HAVE THE ABILITY

TO UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT THAT'S GOING TO BE -- THE

DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO USE AND MAKE SURE WHEN THEY REBUILD

THE STREETS THEY ACTUALLY PROVIDE THAT SAME STREET DESIGN

CONTEXT AND DON'T PUT A SUBURBAN HIGHWAY IN AN URBAN AREA OR

VICE VERSA.

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JUST A QUICK EXAMPLE OF HOW THAT WORKS, A TEXAS EXAMPLE IN A

COUNTY ABOUT THE SIZE OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, USED A SYSTEM

LIKE THIS WITH SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT TERMINOLOGY.

BUT THE COMPACT URBAN AREAS ARE THE DOWNTOWN AND THE OLDER,

THE PRE-WORLD WAR II AREAS WITH A STREET CONNECTED NETWORK,

AND THEN ALL THE NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT'S BEING BUILT IN THAT

COMPACT URBAN PATTERN, WHICH OUT THERE IS QUITE A LOT.

THE CONNECTED SUBURBAN IS THE DEVELOPMENT BUILT, LARGELY

PLATTED IN THE 50s, 60s, AND 70s, HAS THE ROUGHLY QUARTER-

MILE CONNECTIVITY, BUT WITHIN THE QUARTER MILE, THE STREETS

MAY TURN TO DISCOURAGE THROUGH TRAFFIC.

THAT'S THE CONNECTED SUBURBAN PATTERN.

THE LIGHT PINK DOESN'T SHOW TOO WELL HERE.

THE MODERN SUBURBAN, INCLUDING WHAT'S BEEN BUILT AND VESTED

UNDER TEXAS LAW TO CONTINUE BEING BUILT THAT WAY.

AND THEN IT'S AN INDUSTRIAL CITY RIGHT ON THE BORDER, SO

THERE IS A LOT OF INDUSTRIAL LAND, AND THERE'S RURAL LAND,

AND THERE'S NATURAL.

SO BASICALLY, IN THIS CASE, THEY END UP WITH SIX CONTEXTS,

AND THEY DID THIS AS PART OF A NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, SO

THEIR FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORIES ACTUALLY NEST FLEW THESE

SIX GROUPS, WHICH IS THE EASIEST WAY TO DO IT.

IT'S HARDER WHEN YOU ARE TAKING A CONCEPT LIKE THIS AND

OVERLAYING IT ON AN EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

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THE OTHER MISSING SCALE WE TALK ABOUT IS BEYOND THIS URBAN

CONTEXT ISSUE, HOW YOU ACTUALLY GO ABOUT PLANNING NEW

DEVELOPMENT ON INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES.

DOES THE GOVERNMENT JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, COME ON, BRING US

SOMETHING, AND WE WILL TELL YOU IF WE DON'T LIKE IT, AND

THAT'S THE EASY WAY FOR GOVERNMENT.

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE BEST WAY.

AND PARTICULARLY ON MIXED-USE AREAS, LIKE OUT BY THE

INTERSTATE THAT HAVE MULTIPLE OWNERS, YOU HAVE A LOT OF

OPPORTUNITIES, I THINK, FOR PUBLIC-PRIVATE EFFORTS TO

IDENTIFY WHERE THE CHANGES SHOULD BE.

THOSE ARE SO LARGE.

THEY ARE NOT ONE THING OF A CERTAIN DENSITY THAT SHOULD BE

ACROSS THOSE VAST AREAS.

THEY SHOULD HAVE EMPLOYMENT, SHOPPING, INTENSE AREAS, AND

QUIET AREAS.

JUST AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THAT KIND OF PLANNING WORKS.

DOWN INTERSTATE 75 IN NORTHERN SARASOTA COUNTY, THERE'S SOME

UNDEVELOPED LAND ALONG THE INTERSTATE THERE.

WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS ABOUT SIX DIFFERENT TRACTS OWNED BY

DIFFERENT PEOPLE, BUT MOSTLY ADJOINING TRACTS.

AND IN THIS EFFORT THAT -- IN THIS CASE, THE COUNTY

GOVERNMENT WAS THE OWNER OF ONE OF THOSE SIX, SO THEY

ACTUALLY WERE PARTICIPATING WITH THE OTHER FIVE LAND OWNERS

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AS LANDOWNER MORE THAN AS REGULATOR TO TALK ABOUT HOW THESE

PROPERTIES WOULD BE DEVELOPED AT REALLY VALUABLE LOCATIONS

AT AN INTERSTATE INTERCHANGE.

SO THAT PLANNING IDENTIFIED WHERE THE MORE INTENSE AREAS

WOULD BE ON ALL THOSE TRACTS AND IDENTIFIED A STREET

PATTERN.

IN THIS CASE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 300 OR 400 ACRES THAT

ACTUALLY GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE LOCAL STREETS,

ALTHOUGH FOR LARGER AREAS IT DOESN'T NEED TO.

AND IDENTIFIED SPECIFICALLY WHERE, IF THESE PARCELS ARE

DEVELOPED ONE AT A TIME, WHICH THEY PROBABLY WILL BE, HOW

THE INTERCONNECTIONS WILL BE SET UP SO WHEN THE NEXT ONE

COMES IN FIVE OR TEN YEARS LATER, THE CONNECTIONS HAVE BEEN

THOUGHT OUT IN ADVANCE IN A WAY THAT IS MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL

TO ALL THE PROPERTIES.

SO THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN OUR REPORT ARE IN TWO SETS.

THE FIRST SET HAS TO DO WITH STRIP COMMERCIAL POLICIES.

THESE ARE THINGS YOU WILL BE CONSIDERING IN THE COMING YEAR

AS PART OF THE NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLANS.

AND THEN WE ALSO INCLUDED, TOWARD THE BACK HALF OF THE

REPORT, MORE LONG-TERM SUGGESTIONS THAT WE THINK YOU SHOULD

GIVE SERIOUS THOUGHT TO OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

SOME OF THEM ARE QUITE COMPLEX, AND YOU NEED TO MAKE A

DECISION WHETHER THAT'S THE DIRECTION YOU WANT TO MOVE.

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IF YOU DO, WE HAVE THE FRAMEWORK FOR HOW THAT WOULD HAPPEN.

SO WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND DOVER

KOHL & PARTNERS FOR THE CHANCE TO DO THIS.

IT'S EXCITING TO SEE THE CITIES AND COUNTIES WORKING

TOGETHER AGAIN, NOT COMMON, AND WILLING TO LOOK HARD AT ALL

THE GOOD STUFF THAT'S BEEN DONE AND SAY HOW CAN WE DO THIS

BETTER.

IT'S BEEN A GREAT PLEASURE.

THANK YOU.

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: THANK YOU, MR. SPIKOWSKI.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION AS YOU NOTED, IT'S A PRETTY BIG

REPORT WITH A LOT OF INFORMATION, IDEAS, AND BACKGROUND

RESEARCH.

IT'S A LOT TO ABSORB, AND WE DETERMINED, AS STAFF, THAT WE

ARE GOING TO DO A PHASED APPROACH TO IMPLEMENTATION.

WITH REGARD TO THE OCTOBER SUBMITTAL WITH THE UPDATE FOR THE

COUNTY, FOR INSTANCE, WE WOULD LIKE TO ADOPT SOME BASIC

DEFINITIONS AND ALSO TAKE THEIR SUGGESTIONS TO IMPROVE THE

STRIP COMMERCIAL, TAKE OUT SOME OF THE DETAIL, SO THAT'S NOT

NECESSARY, AND ALSO IMPROVE THE SECOND USE REQUIREMENT FOR

THE MIXED-USE CLASSIFICATIONS.

WE'RE ALSO GOING TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF LAND THAT IS WITHIN

THE MIXED-USE CLASSIFICATIONS BECAUSE IT'S A PRETTY BIG

AREA.

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THE AREAS THAT ALREADY DEVELOPED AS SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED

RESIDENTIAL, FOR INSTANCE, DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO STAY IN

MIXED USE.

SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

BUT MOST OF THE SUGGESTIONS IN THE REPORT WILL BE A LONGER-

TERM PHASE TWO IMPLEMENTATION.

WE WISH TO HAVE THE JURISDICTIONS MEET, GET TOGETHER, AND

TALK ABOUT WHAT BELONGS IN THE CODE, WHAT BELONGS IN THE

COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND HOW WE ALL CAN WORK TOGETHER.

THERE ARE REALLY GOOD IDEAS, VERY CREATIVE IDEAS.

WE ARE VERY PLEASED WITH THE REPORT.

THERE WILL DEFINITELY BE A PHASED APPROACH SO WE CAN DO IT

IN AN EFFECTIVE MANNER.

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: THANK YOU, MS. STENMARK.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS?

COMMISSIONER BENSON.

>>STEPHEN BENSON: I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY A QUESTION FOR

MR. SPIKOWSKI.

IN THE UNINCORPORATED COUNTY, THE MIXED USE LAND USE

CATEGORIES OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, HOW IS WALKING DISTANCE

GOING TO BE DEFINED?

>> IN OUR MEETINGS WITH THE STAFF, WE DISCUSSED THAT

EXTENSIVELY BECAUSE, ON THE ONE HAND, THAT'S A VAGUE TERM,

SO YOU KNOW, IT'S EASY TO DEFINE IT.

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WE CAN SAY IT'S A FIVE-MINUTE WALK.

WE CAN SAY IT'S A QUARTER MILE.

WE'D RATHER NOT BECAUSE, IN FACT, PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO WALK

DIFFERENT DISTANCES DEPENDING ON THE SEASON AND DEPENDING

WHAT'S AT THE OTHER END.

ARE THEY WALKING RECREATIONALLY?

ARE THEY WALKING TO A TRANSIT STOP THAT WILL TAKE THEM TO

DOWNTOWN TAMPA?

PEOPLE WALK A LOT LONGER.

SO WE'D ACTUALLY RATHER NOT PROVIDE A SINGLE DEFINITION THAT

SHOULD APPLY TO EVERYBODY.

THE DOWNSIDE OF THAT IS THE UNCERTAINTY.

SO IF SOMEBODY COMES IN AND THEY WANT TO BUILD A BLOCK OF

APARTMENTS AND THERE'S SHOPPING, YOU KNOW, THREE-EIGHTHS OF

A MILE AWAY, IS THAT WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OR NOT?

PICK A NUMBER AND A DISTANCE AND SAY THAT'S IT, OR YOU CAN

SAY LET'S LOOK AT THE CONDITIONS, LET'S LOOK AT WHAT THE

USES ARE, LET'S LOOK AT ARE THERE SIDEWALKS TO GET FROM HERE

TO THERE, AND USE SOME JUDGMENT.

THOSE ARE THE TWO CHOICES YOU HAVE, REALLY.

>>STEPHEN BENSON: BECAUSE TO ME IT SEEMS ALMOST AS THOUGH

PERCEIVED DISTANCE IS JUST AS IMPORTANT AS ACTUAL DISTANCE.

WHILE SOMETHING MAY BE A QUARTER OF A MILE AWAY AS THE CROW

FLIES, AGAIN YOU ACTUALLY GET DOWN TO TRYING TO GET THERE,

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IT'S A LOT LONGER.

>> WE WOULD SUGGEST THAT IF YOU END UP WITH A DISTANCE, IT

BE A DISTANCE THAT YOU ARE COMFORTABLE THE DISTANCE TO WALK.

SO IF THERE'S A WALL AND YOU CAN'T GET THROUGH, DON'T USE

COUNTING IT BEING CLOSE.

IT DOESN'T REALLY HELP YOU.

I SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE EXPLICIT ABOUT THAT.

>>STEPHEN BENSON: THAT'S OKAY.

AND THEN ALSO, I GUESS THIS IS THE FOURTH -- GETTING KIND OF

SPECIFIC -- THE FOURTH BULLET DOWN.

IF A DIFFERENT USE ALREADY EXISTS OUTSIDE THE PROJECT BUT

WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE AND CONNECTED BY SIDEWALKS, A SECOND

USE IS NOT REQUIRED WITHIN THE PROJECT.

>> YES.

>>STEPHEN BENSON: CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT?

>> THE POINT WOULD BE THE EXAMPLE I JUST GAVE YOU, SOMEBODY

WANTS TO BUILD 25 APARTMENTS, AND THEY'RE A QUARTER MILE

FROM EXISTING SHOPPING CENTER.

SO IS IT ESSENTIAL THAT THAT BLOCK OF APARTMENTS HAVE A

SECOND USE WITHIN IT?

I THINK NOT.

WHEREAS YOUR CURRENT PLAN SAYS IT IS.

IF IT'S A NEW PLAN AMENDMENT, EVERY PROJECT, NO MATTER HOW

SMALL, HAS TO HAVE THE TWO USES.

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AND THE DOWNSIDE OF THAT -- THAT SOUNDS GOOD, BUT THE

DOWNSIDE IS IT'S A DISINCENTIVE FOR PEOPLE TO MOVE INTO

THESE MIXED-USE CATEGORIES.

SO THE UPSIDE OF LOOSENING UP THAT RULE IS SOMEBODY IS GOING

TO COME IN AND LIVE WITH OR THRIVE ON ALL THE CONNECTIVITY

REQUIREMENTS.

THAT'S ACTUALLY MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE SECOND USE ON THAT

SMALL PARCEL.

>>STEPHEN BENSON: OKAY.

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BENSON.

COMMERCIAL PIKE?

>>GARY PIKE: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.

THIS IS A QUESTION FOR MR. CHIARAMONTE.

ACTUALLY, WHEN I LOOK AT THE SUMMARY, IT SAYS THAT

ORIGINALLY IT WAS A RECOMMENDATION ON THE POLICIES FOR

AVOIDANCE OF STRIP COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, ENCOURAGEMENT OF

MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT ALONG MAJOR CORRIDORS, AND THERE'S A

LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION THERE, BUT HOW WOULD THAT TIE IN AS

FAR AS WITH WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS DOING AND THE

RECOMMENDATIONS?

STARTED OUT REALLY GOOD, I GOT KIND OF CONFUSED A LITTLE BIT

AS WE MOVED DOWN.

THE PRESENTATION WAS A LITTLE INVOLVED.

>>RAY CHIARAMONTE: YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW WE WOULD USE

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THIS STUDY?

>>GARY PIKE: YES.

>>RAY CHIARAMONTE: I THINK IT WAS ALLUDED TO, HOW COULD IT

BE MORE EFFECTIVE IN DEALING WITH AND ENCOURAGING MIXED-USE

DEVELOPMENT AND LOOKING AT STRIP COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AS

SINGLE USE AND TRYING TO AVOID THAT, YOU KNOW, WHERE

POSSIBLE.

>>GARY PIKE: SO WOULD YOU TAKE THIS -- THIS STUDY,

BASICALLY, AND TRY AND BUILD A CORRIDOR STUDY, FOR EXAMPLE,

AND SAY THIS IS GOING TO BE -- THIS IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE

SUBURBAN CORRIDOR?

IS THAT WHAT YOU --

>>RAY CHIARAMONTE: NO.

I THINK WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO DO IS WE'D WANT TO LOOK -- AND

AS I HEARD THE PRESENTATION ALSO, I IMMEDIATELY THOUGHT OF

THE DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COUNTY THAT WOULD FIT INTO THAT

CATEGORY OF MODERN SUBURBAN VERSUS -- AND TO GIVE YOU AN

EXAMPLE, LIKE I WOULD CALL TOWN 'N COUNTRY KIND OF THE

CONNECTED SUBURBAN.

IT HAS A MODIFIED GRID PATTERN STILL INTACT, WHICH IS

SOMEWHAT OF A CARRYOVER OF THE CITY OF TAMPA WHEN YOU LOOK

AT IT.

AND WHERE I SEE THIS, IF YOU HAVE A NAVIGATION SYSTEM ON

YOUR CAR, IS THERE'S VAST DIFFERENCES AS YOU GO THROUGH THE

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COUNTY AS TO THE PATTERN OF STREETS.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU ARE IN THE CITY, IT'S ALL SQUARES, AND

THEN YOU GET OUT TO TOWN 'N COUNTRY, SQUARES, BUT SOME ARE

BROKEN.

THEN YOU GO INTO AREAS LIKE CARROLLWOOD, AND IT'S ALMOST

HARDLY ANY STRAIGHT STREETS.

IT'S ALL CURVILINEAR STREETS, WHICH I WOULD CALL THE MODERN

SUBURBAN.

AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE HAVING THE SAME STANDARDS FOR ALL

THREE OF THOSE REALLY PROBABLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE.

WE KIND OF HAD ONE COMMERCIAL CRITERIA FOR ALL PARTS OF

UNINCORPORATED COUNTY, AND IT BROUGHT BACK MEMORIES SEEING

THE FOOTAGES BECAUSE I WAS HERE WHEN WE DEVELOPED THAT

CRITERIA BECAUSE BEFORE THERE WAS NO CRITERIA, AND I

REMEMBER THE BOARD AT THE TIME, DAVID POE WAS CHAIRMAN OF

THE BOARD, THERE WAS NO CRITERIA TO CONTROL COMMERCIAL IN

BETWEEN MAJOR INTERSECTIONS.

SO THERE WAS A LOT OF ENCROACHMENT INTO RESIDENTIAL AREAS,

PEOPLE WERE COMPLAINING, AND THEY TASKED US TO COME UP WITH

SOME KIND OF CRITERIA, SO WE CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA BASED ON

THE WIDTH OF THE STREETS, YOU COULD GO A CERTAIN DISTANCE

FROM THE INTERSECTION.

IT'S LASTED ALL THIS TIME, BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY TIME TO,

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YOU KNOW, TIME TO BUILD UPON THAT AND MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT

MORE LOGICAL.

AND I THINK LOOKING AT THE CONTEXT OF THE DIFFERENT

NEIGHBORHOODS IS IMPORTANT IN DEVELOPING DIFFERENT CRITERIA.

ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IS WHEN YOU TRY TO DO ONE SIZE FITS ALL,

YOU KEEP COMING UP WITH AREAS THAT ARE EXCEPTIONS TO THAT.

I THINK IF YOU TIE IT MORE TO THE ACTUAL COMMUNITIES AND THE

CHARACTERS OF THOSE COMMUNITIES, YOU CAN MUCH MORE CLEARLY

ARTICULATE TO A DEVELOPER WHAT THE GOAL IS, AND HE CAN

UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS, AND IT MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE.

THAT'S HOW I WOULD SEE WE WOULD USE THIS STUDY, TO PUT SOME

OF THIS STUFF INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

ANOTHER THING THAT JUMPED OUT OF ME WAS THE WHOLE ISSUE OF

WHAT ACREAGE IS MIXED USE AT.

I THINK WHEN WE STARTED OUT, WE WERE JUST LEARNING AND

PROBABLY OUR REQUIREMENT FOR THE SECOND USE WAS TOO HIGH,

AND AS YOU NOTICE, THEY RECOMMEND KIND OF TAKING THAT DOWN A

LITTLE BIT, AND I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE ALSO.

AND ALWAYS REQUIRING MIXED USE.

IT PROBABLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE ON AN ACRE PROPERTY.

SAY YOU'VE GOT A MIXED USE ON THAT ONE ACRE.

ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE IN A MORE SUBURBAN AREA.

OR YOU HAVE SOME OTHER USE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO IT.

WE HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN DOING THAT TOO MUCH.

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SO I THINK THIS GIVES US, AGAIN, A BASIS.

SO WHAT I SEE HAPPENING WITH THIS STUDY IS -- AND MARCIE

SAID THE MORE GENERAL THINGS WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TRY TO START

PUTTING IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

WE MIGHT HAVE TO STUDY SOME OF THE OTHER ONES IN A LITTLE

BIT MORE DETAIL, AND THEN EVENTUALLY HOPEFULLY THEY WILL GO

IN THE PLAN OR IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IF THAT'S THE

APPROPRIATE PLACE.

I HOPE I KIND OF ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER GREEN.

>>THEODORE TRENT GREEN: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

IS IT AMY AND BILL?

AND MARCIE, THANK YOU.

I THINK THIS IS A GOOD START.

I THINK IT DOES PROVIDE A GOOD FOUNDATION FOR HELPING US

UNDERSTAND WHAT ELSE IS POSSIBLE ALONG WITH MANY OF OUR

CORRIDORS THAT ARE ESSENTIALLY COMMERCIAL IN NATURE FROM ONE

END TO THE OTHER.

BUT THERE'S ONE QUESTION I WANTED TO ASK THAT -- AND I AM

STILL SORT OF SIFTING THROUGH THIS, AND I KNOW THERE'S YET

ANOTHER ITERATION OF THIS.

THIS IS FINAL?

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>>MARCIE STENMARK: WE HAVE A LITTLE BUDGET YET SHOULD YOU

ASK A QUESTION OR PROVIDE A COMMENT TODAY WHERE WE WOULD

WISH TO CLARIFY IT.

SO IT'S -- AFTER TODAY, THEY WILL MAYBE MAKE SOME TWEAKS,

THEN WE'LL FINALIZE.

>>THEODORE TRENT GREEN: OKAY.

THIS ONE HAS TO DO WITH EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS, AS I

WAS JUST ALLUDING TO, THIS CONTIGUOUS OR CONTIGUOUS

COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS ON MANY OF OUR ROADWAYS.

BUT MY QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH POLICIES THAT WILL HELP US

TRANSITION TO DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS THAT CAN SUPPORT TRANSIT,

THAT IS EITHER BETTER USE OF OUR EXISTING BUS SYSTEM OR

POLICIES THAT ANTICIPATE OTHER FUTURE TRANSIT OPTIONS, LET'S

SAY.

AND --

>> THAT'S ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING WE HOPE WILL HAPPEN.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BUS ROUTES IN THIS COUNTY AND MOST

PLACES OF COMPARABLE CHARACTER, A LOT OF THE BUS ROUTES ARE

IN SUBURBAN AREAS, A LOT OF THE HEAVILY USED BUS ROUTES.

WHEN PEOPLE GET OFF THE BUS, THEY ARE ON THIS WIDE HIGHWAY,

THERE ARE BUSINESSES ALL AROUND, BUT IT'S VERY HARD TO CROSS

THE STREET.

WE ACTUALLY WORKED WITH YOUR MPO STAFF ON THIS PARTICULAR

ISSUE SO THE DESIGN STANDARDS I TALKED ABOUT ACTUALLY

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DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN, FOR INSTANCE, ON AN EXISTING MOSTLY

SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL ARTERIAL.

WHAT WE CAN DO WHEN THOSE STREETS ARE BEING REBUILT TO

PROVIDE, MAKE IT EASIER FOR BUS PASSENGERS TO CROSS.

BECAUSE IF IT'S EASIER FOR THEM TO CROSS, THEY ARE GOING TO

BE MORE LIKELY TO USE THE BUS.

IF THEY HAVE TO WALK UP THREE-EIGHTHS OF A MILE TO THE NEXT

LIGHT TO CROSS TO COME BACK TO THE NEXT BUS STOP, WHAT A

BURDEN ON THE ABILITY OF PEOPLE TO USE TRANSIT.

ALSO, AT THE SAME TIME, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE ONE STANDARD

LIKE THAT THAT'S ALSO GOING TO APPLY ON SUBURBAN ARTERIALS

WHERE THERE'S NO TRANSIT AND SORT OF NOTHING TO DO WHEN YOU

GET OFF.

WE DON'T WANT TO SPEND MONEY ON CROSSWALKS THAT PEOPLE WON'T

USE.

SO THEY ARE ACTUALLY GRADUATED HERE BY AREAS OF CHARACTER.

YOU HAVE THE ABILITY IN AN EXISTING SUBURBAN-STYLE STRIP

COMMERCIAL AREA THAT HAS GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO URBANIZE TO

ACTUALLY KICK THINGS UP TO THE NEXT HIGHER STANDARD AS A

PLANNING DECISION THAT'S MADE IN A WAY THAT WILL AFFECT THE

STREET DESIGN AND ALSO AFFECT THE WAY THAT DEVELOPMENT

REGULATIONS ARE WRITTEN AND THE WAY YOU MAKE REZONING

CONDITIONS.

ALL THOSE HAVE TO HAPPEN TOGETHER.

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IF YOU FIX THE ROAD AND DON'T DO ANYTHING WITH THE LAND USE

OR THE OTHER WAY AROUND, YOU ARE SPINNING YOUR WHEELS.

WE SEE THAT OPPORTUNITY DEFINITELY.

>> GOOD.

ONE LAST POINT.

I AM NOT SURE, MAYBE YOU REFERENCED IT IN HERE SOMEWHERE,

BUT IN YOUR FINAL ITERATION OF THIS, I AM ASSUMING YOU WILL

REFERENCE THE ITE DOCUMENT, WALKABLE URBAN THOROUGH FARES.

>> WE HAVE, AND LET ME JUST SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT BECAUSE

I'VE WORKED WITH A NUMBER OF COMMUNITIES WHO HAVE VERY

ENTHUSIASTICALLY IMPLEMENTED THAT GUIDELINE.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, IT ASSUMES --

>>THEODORE TRENT GREEN: WE HAVE IT.

>> IT ASSUMES SOMEBODY ELSE HAS DECIDED ON WHAT THE CONTEXTS

ARE, AND IT'S BASICALLY HOW TO DESIGN ROADS IN THE WALKABLE

URBAN AREAS.

BUT WHO MAKES THE DECISION OF THE CONTEXT, AND WHAT HAPPENS

IN THE SUBURBAN AREAS, THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO FILL IN

HERE, SO THE ITE MANUAL IS GREAT FOR WALKABLE URBAN AREAS.

WE ARE TRYING TO PUT IT INTO THE BIGGER PICTURE THAT FALLS

INTO.

WE HAVE MENTIONED THAT WE CAN GIVE IT MORE EMPHASIS, FOR

SURE.

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: ALL RIGHT.

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OKAY.

I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU OR A COMMENT MAYBE YOU

CAN EXPOUND ON A LITTLE BIT.

YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CONNECTIVITY AND GAVE AN EXAMPLE

OF SIX LAND OWNERS IN AN AREA BY AN INTERSECTION, AND I SEE

THAT, AND YOU KNOW, THE LOWER THE NUMBER OF OWNERS, THE

EASIER IT IS TO MAKE THAT WORK OUT.

I WAS WONDERING WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT

OF AREAS WHERE THERE'S -- I CAN SEE THAT BEING A VERY

PROBLEMATIC ISSUE IN SOME AREAS WHERE YOU HAVE A DOZEN, 20

DIFFERENT LAND OWNERS, AND YOU'VE GOT TO GET THEM ALL TO

AGREE ON, YEAH, I AM GOING TO BUILD ROADS HERE AND HERE

WHENEVER I GET AROUND TO IT.

CAN YOU --

>> IT WAS DIFFICULT WITH SIX, NO QUESTION CAN ABOUT IT,

BECAUSE THE SIX PAID FOR THE PLATTING WORK.

SO -- AND THE COUNTY PAID FOR ITS SHARE AS ONE OF THE SIX

OWNERS.

SO THEY NOT ONLY HAD TO AGREE TO THIS, THEY HAD TO AGREE SO

MUCH THAT THEY PUT THE MONEY -- ACTUALLY, THE ECONOMIC

DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION IN SARASOTA COUNTY COLLECTED THE

MONEY AND ACTUALLY HIRED THE CONSULTANTS TO DO THE WORK.

SO THAT IS SORT OF A RARE OPPORTUNITY, AND I THINK THE

WAY -- IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN FORCE ON PEOPLE WHO ARE

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UNWILLING.

BUT IT'S ALSO VERY COMPLICATED, AND IT'S NOT LIKE YOU CAN DO

FOUR, FIVE, OR SIX OF THESE EVERY YEAR.

IF YOU FIND A GROUP OF LAND OWNERS WHO SEE MUTUALLY

BENEFICIAL, YOU GO WITH THEM.

THE NEXT YEAR IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER GROUP, YOU DO ANOTHER ONE

NEXT YEAR.

I'M NOT IMPLYING IT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN GO OUT AND DO ACROSS

THE COUNTY OR WOULD WANT TO.

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: I CAN SEE IT BEING A VERY GOOD THING.

I GUESS THE MORE THAT IT HAPPENS AND THE MORE PEOPLE SEE

THAT IT WORKS, THE MORE IT WOULD HAPPEN, ET CETERA, ET

CETERA.

>> IN THE SARASOTA EXAMPLE, I THINK THE FACT THAT THE COUNTY

WAS ONE OF THE LAND OWNERS WAS A VERY IMPORTANT POINT.

IF YOU ARE GOING TO END UP GOING BEFORE THE COUNTY

COMMISSION FOR A REZONING, IT'S SORT OF NICE TO HAVE THE

COUNTY LANDS PEOPLE STANDING NEXT TO YOU.

EVERY NOW AND THEN YOU HAVE A CIRCUMSTANCE LIKE THAT THAT

WILL MAKE THINGS WORK.

BUT I THINK IF YOU PROVIDE SOME INCENTIVES FOR PEOPLE WHO

ARE WILLING TO DO THAT AND SEE IT'S IN THEIR OWN INTEREST,

YOU MIGHT FIND MAYBE ONE A YEAR, ONE EVERY TWO YEARS, WHERE

YOU CAN DO SOMETHING REALLY IMPORTANT IN A SITUATION WHERE

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IF YOU DO NOTHING AND LET EACH PERSON COME IN ON THEIR OWN,

THE RESULTS AREN'T GOING TO MAKE ANYBODY HAPPY.

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: OKAY.

ARE THERE OTHER -- COMMISSIONER PIKE.

>>GARY PIKE: I WANT TO GO BACK TO WHAT I WAS FIRST TALKING

ABOUT, MR. CHAIRMAN.

I DO LIKE THE PLAIN ENGLISH TEXT, GETTING AWAY FROM ANYTHING

PLANNING LANGUAGE.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT STEP, AND I THINK WE'VE DONE A GOOD

JOB IN THE PAST, IN MY OBSERVATION, GET AWAY FROM LEGALESE.

THAT CERTAINLY MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER.

BUT I DO FIND IT INTERESTING, THE THING THAT WE REALLY ARE

AFFECTED A LOT OF TIMES WITH IS THE SURPRISE WHERE SOMEBODY

WANTS TO PUT A NEW PROJECT IN, AND IT'S SO DIFFICULT TO

RESTRICT LET'S JUST SAY A CORRIDOR.

SO WHEN WE FIRST SAW THIS PRESENTATION, THAT'S WHAT I

THOUGHT, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE FRAMED IT, HOW TO STOP THE

AVOIDANCE OF STRIP PLAZAS ALONG TRAFFIC CORRIDORS.

BUT NOW THAT I'VE SEEN THE PRESENTATION, I REALIZE IT'S MORE

TO HELP MAKE IT A LITTLE EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND.

YOU ARE STILL NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO RESTRICT THAT.

IF YOU ARE GET SOME DEVELOPMENT PEOPLE WHO WANT TO ABIDE BY

A PLAN, THAT'S FINE, BUT IT'S STILL NOT GOING TO ELIMINATE

SOME OF THAT OR A MAJORITY OF IT.

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>> NOT A MAGIC BULLET.

WE UNDERSTAND, OF COURSE, IT'S NOT.

BUT THE UNCERTAINTY OF THE CURRENT SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, COULD

WE GET COMMERCIAL THERE, BUT YOU DON'T GET THE ANSWER TO

THAT UNTIL YOU PUT DOWN MONEY ON THE PROPERTY, YOU'VE SPENT

TIME, YOU'VE DONE TRAFFIC STUDIES, DONE SITE PLANS, GONE

THROUGH ALL THE HEARINGS, THEN YOU FIND OUT NO WAY, AND ALL

THAT MAKES YOU -- SOMEBODY THINK I DON'T WANT TO WORK IN

THIS PLACE ANYMORE.

THAT'S THE ADVANTAGE TO A NUMBER OF THE NUMERICAL CRITERIA

WITHIN THE DISTANCE, IT HELPS.

AND IT'S ALSO AN ADVANTAGE THAT YOU ARE FLEXIBLE FOR STRONG

MITIGATING CIRCUMSTANCES.

BUT WHEN THERE'S A LACK OF GUIDANCE, PEOPLE CHARGE FORWARD,

THEY'RE MAD, THEY'VE WASTED MONEY, THEY ARE MAD AT YOU, YOU

ARE MAD AT THEM, THE COMMUNITY IS MAD AT EVERYBODY, AND WE

WOULD LIKE TO REDUCE HOW OFTEN THAT HAPPENS, ALTHOUGH

OBVIOUSLY IT'S STILL GOING TO HAPPEN OFTEN ENOUGH.

>>RAY CHIARAMONTE: I JUST WANT TO BUILD UPON THAT A LITTLE.

I THINK IN THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, THE THING THAT SOME

DEVELOPERS HATE MOST, I CAN UNDERSTAND, IS UNCERTAINTY.

THEY'RE WILLING TO DO NICER THINGS, BUT IT'S THE UNCERTAINTY

OF WHAT TO DO.

I THINK THIS GIVES A LITTLE BIT MORE CERTAINTY THAT IF YOU

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DO IT IN THIS WAY, YOU HAVE A BETTER CHANCE.

RIGHT NOW IT'S KIND OF UP IN THE AIR.

IT'S TOO -- IT'S TOO LOOSE.

IT'S NOT ENOUGH GUIDANCE TO SEE A WHAT WE WANT TO SEE

HAPPEN.

AND I THINK IN THE LONG RUN, IF YOU ARE REASONABLE AND PUT

THE RIGHT RULES IN PLACE, IT BENEFITS THE DEVELOPMENT

COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT ELIMINATES THE UNCERTAINTY, AND THEY

KNOW IF THEY DO IT IN A CERTAIN WAY THEY HAVE A GOOD CHANCE

OF BEING APPROVED.

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS?

GARY.

>>THEODORE TRENT GREEN: JUST ONE LAST POINT.

ACCESS MANAGEMENT, MAYBE THIS MORE OF AN ISSUE FOR THE MPO

AND THE LONG-RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN UPDATE, BUT I THINK

THAT SHOULD BE REFERENCED ALSO IN THIS -- LOOKING AT THESE

TYPES OF ISSUES AS WELL.

THANK YOU. _

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: SEEING NONE FROM OTHER COMMISSIONERS, WE

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

THAT WILL BRING US TO ITEM NUMBER 10, OUR EXECUTIVE

DIRECTOR'S REPORT FROM MR. CHIARAMONTE.

>>RAY CHIARAMONTE: WE HAVE BEEN SPENDING A LOT OF TIME.

AS YOU ARE AWARE, WE ARE IN OUR FINAL STAGES OF PUBLIC INPUT

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ON IMAGINE 2040, KIND OF BUILDING TO A CRESCENDO OVER THE

LABOR DAY WEEKEND, WHEN MANY OF THE STAFF VOLUNTEERED TO

WORK THE HOME SHOW, AND WE GOT A LOT OF INPUT.

I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE AT THE 2400 NUMBER FOR OUR SECOND

PHASE, WHICH YOU COMBINE THAT WITH THE 3700 FROM THE FIRST,

WE REALLY DID WELL, AND WE HAD A SHORTER TIME PERIOD, SO WE

WERE VERY PLEASED WITH THE TURNOUT ON THAT.

SO WE HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION NOW, AND WE'RE KIND OF

ANALYZING IT AND SHOULD HAVE SOME GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS COME

OUT OF THAT, ESPECIALLY FIRST FOR THE MPO PLAN, NEXT FOR THE

COMP PLANS.

BEEN MEETING A LOT WITH THE COUNTY AND THE POLICY LEADERSHIP

GROUP MANAGERS COMMITTEE, TRYING TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO

MOVE FORWARD.

WE ARE WORKING ON THAT NOW.

ONE OF THE HARDEST THINGS HAS BEEN TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP THE

PLANS COORDINATED AND TOGETHER AND THE PROJECTS BE AS

SIMILAR AS POSSIBLE, ALTHOUGH EACH PLAN HAS CERTAIN NUANCES

THAT WILL BE DIFFERENT, BUT THEY BASICALLY WILL MATCH IN

STRUCTURE.

FOR EXAMPLE, THINGS THAT THE POLICY LEADERSHIP GROUP

RECOMMENDS, YOU KNOW, THE IDEAL SITUATION IS THEY ARE GOING

TO BE IN THE MPO PLAN AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE IN OUR COMP

PLAN TOO.

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SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COUNTY STAFF MOSTLY AND THE

CITIES TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S CORRECT AND THAT THEY DO

MATCH, AND AS WE GO ALONG AND MOVE UP.

I WON'T GO THROUGH THE DIFFERENT DETAILED MEETINGS I HAD.

I WANTED TO JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PLANNING

ASSOCIATION CONFERENCE IN JACKSONVILLE.

STAFF HAD A COUPLE OF PRESENTATIONS.

I WAS INVOLVED IN TWO OF THEM THAT I THINK WENT WELL.

ONE WAS OUR STRATEGIC PLAN TO SHOW HOW OTHER AGENCIES COULD

KIND OF CHANGE THEIR DNA AND MOVE IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION

AND BRING THAT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE STAFF LEVEL.

THAT WAS A FOUR-HOUR SESSION THAT WE DID WITH MEL AND ROD

GERARDO HELPED WITH THAT.

THAT WENT FINE.

THEN WE HAD ANOTHER PRESENTATION THAT MELISSA AND I WERE

INVOLVED WITH ON THE METROQUEST WAY OF PUBLIC PARTICIPATION,

AND THAT ONE WAS VERY WELL ATTENDED AND WENT OVER WELL.

AND THEN OTHER STAFF, INCLUDING MELISSA, HAD PRESENTATIONS

ON STREAMLINING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE EFFORT THAT'S

GONE INTO KIND OF MOVING FORWARD WITH OUR EFFORT TO UPDATE

OUR PLAN.

AND AS WE TALKED ABOUT, USING THE RIGHT LANGUAGE, MAKING IT

SIMPLE, AND PUTTING THINGS IN THE RIGHT PLACES.

SO IT WAS A GOOD CONFERENCE.

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IT WAS INTERESTING.

I HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN IN JACKSONVILLE IN A WHILE, AND I

FELT -- I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T SAY THIS, BUT I AM GOING TO

ANYWAY -- YOU KNOW, WE ARE SO FAR AHEAD.

IT REMINDED ME OF WHAT WE WERE THINKING ABOUT ONE OR TWO

DECADES AGO HERE.

THEY'RE JUST BEGINNING TO THINK ABOUT HOW DO THEY GET SOME

KIND OF HOUSING DOWNTOWN.

THEY ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT, I GUESS, A 400-UNIT KIND OF

TOWNHOUSE PROJECT OR SOMETHING, AND I AM THINKING, MY GOD,

WE'VE GOT THREE 20-STORY TOWERS THIS YEAR THAT ARE EITHER

UNDER CONSTRUCTION OR WILL BE, PLUS 7,000 PEOPLE LIVING IN

CHANNELSIDE.

BUT OF COURSE, 10 OR 20 YEARS AGO, NONE OF THIS WAS TRUE

HERE EITHER.

THEY HAD LOTS OF EMPTY LOTS, NOT JUST PARKING LOTS, JUST

EMPTY LOTS.

NOT A LOT OF RESTAURANTS DOWNTOWN.

NOT A LOT OF HOTELS.

THEIR CONVENTION CENTER, AGAIN, LEFT SOMETHING TO BE

DESIRED.

WE WEREN'T THERE.

ACTUALLY, AFTER I SAW IT, I WAS GLAD.

IT'S COMBINED WITH THEIR VERY NICE TRAIN STATION THAT THEY

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PRESERVED, BUT THE CONVENTION CENTER PART WAS ADDED ON.

I THINK IT'S MAIN EXHIBITION SPACE IS LIKE 78,000 SQUARE

FEET COMPARED TO OURS BEING ABOUT 200,000 SQUARE FEET, YOU

KNOW, WITH A TOTAL OF 600,000 IF YOU ADD ALL THE OTHER

ROOMS, PLUS WE HAVE HOTELS RIGHT NEXT TO IT.

THEY DON'T HAVE HOTELS ANYWHERE NEAR IT.

SO YOU KNOW, THEY DEFINITELY ARE BEHIND, AND I REALIZED HOW

FAR WE'VE COME IN THE LAST 20 YEARS AS FAR AS ACHIEVING THE

THINGS WE'VE WANTED TO DO.

WE HAVE HISTORIC DISTRICTS RIGHT ADJACENT TO OUR DOWNTOWN.

THEY ARE JUST KIND OF TALKING ABOUT THAT STILL.

AND WE REALLY HAVE COME A LONG WAY.

SO I FELT GOOD ABOUT BEING FROM TAMPA WHEN I LEFT, AND I

WISHED THEM A LOT OF LUCK AS THEY TRY TO MOVE FORWARD, TOO,

AND DO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY MOVED AHEAD ON.

SOMETHING INTERESTING CAME UP.

I AM GOING TO MENTION IT BECAUSE I FIND IT VERY EXCITING,

AND THIS WOULD GIVE ME SOMETHING TO DO AFTER I LEAVE.

AND THAT'S THAT MIAMI APPEARS TO HAVE DROPPED THE BALL FOR

THE 2018 NATIONAL PLANNERS CONFERENCE.

I WILL JUST TELL YOU LIKE 15 YEARS AGO, I HAVE HAMMERED APA

ALL I COULD TO SAY WHY CAN'T WE HAVE A CONFERENCE IN TAMPA,

AND IT'S ALWAYS, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH HOTELS OR THIS

OR THAT.

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WELL, I THINK WE DO NOW, AND I KNOW THAT OUR LOCAL CHAPTER,

HEADED BY MELISSA, THE STATE CHAPTER, IS GOING TO TRY TO

PURSUE THIS.

I WILL DO EVERYTHING I CAN IN PRESSURE, WHATEVER I HAVE TO

PUT TO GET THIS TO HAPPEN.

I TALKED TO SOME CITY STAFF TO GET THE EAR OF THE MAYOR ON

THIS BECAUSE IT'S LIKE 4,000 TO 6,000 PLANNERS, AND IT'S

REALLY A CHANCE TO SHOWCASE YOUR CITY TO DECISION-MAKERS ALL

OVER THE COUNTRY INVOLVED IN PLANNING.

SO SINCE MIAMI SEEMS TO BE OUT AND THEY ARE LOOKING FOR A

REPLACEMENT, I AM HOPING THAT WE CAN JUMP IN STRONGLY AND

SAY WE WANT TO BE THAT REPLACEMENT.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON.

AND I HAVE A COUPLE OTHER THINGS TO TALK ABOUT, BUT I WILL

WAIT UNTIL NEW BUSINESS.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD ON THINGS THAT ARE

COMING -- OKAY.

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: ALL RIGHT.

THANKS, RAY.

THAT BRINGS US TO OTHER BUSINESS.

CHAIR'S BUSINESS.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS JUST FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES.

AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE STILL PROCEEDING WITH OUR SEARCH TO

REPLACE RAY WHEN HE LEAVES.

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AND YOU PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW, BUT WE HAVE A MEETING THIS

THURSDAY ON THE 11th AT 1:00, THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AND

THE SELECTION COMMITTEE, PEOPLE FROM TAMPA, THE COUNTY,

TEMPLE TERRACE, AND PLANT CITY WILL BE MEETING, AND I

BELIEVE IT'S HERE, IS IT NOT, IN THIS ROOM, TO GO OVER THE

CANDIDATES THAT WE HAVE SO FAR AND TRY TO COME DOWN FROM THE

BIG LIST WE HAVE TO A LONG LIST TO DO SOME SKYPE INTERVIEWS

FOR A SHORT LIST FOR ULTIMATE IN-PERSON INTERVIEWS FOR A

FINAL SELECTION.

SO THAT SAGA CONTINUES, AND OUR NEXT PHASE IS THIS THURSDAY

AT 1:00.

IN ADDITION, THE MPO HAS JUST -- SOMETHING WE STARTED FOUR

OR FIVE YEARS AGO, OR AT LEAST PUT THE THOUGHT IN PEOPLE'S

MINDS FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO, BUT TO HAVE THE APPOINTED

REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTUALLY BE A

VOTING MEMBER OF THE MPO, AND THAT HAS COME TO FRUITION.

THE FIRST TIME THAT OUR APPOINTED MEMBER, MR. GREEN, WILL BE

VOTING WILL BE THIS MONTH'S MEETING, THE 17th?

>> NEXT MONTH'S.

>>RAY CHIARAMONTE: NO, NEXT MONTH'S.

IT'S ACTUALLY AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER.

IT GOT CHANGED -- I CAN'T REMEMBER WHY, BUT THERE WAS A

REASON -- TO I THINK IT'S SEPTEMBER 29, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

>> THIS MONTH'S MEETING, THEN?

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>>RAY CHIARAMONTE: WELL, IT'S REALLY OCTOBER'S, BUT WE HAD

TO MOVE IT BACK.

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: IT IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN A LONG TIME

COMING.

I AM GLAD THAT IT'S HAPPENED AND REITERATE THAT OUR MPO

APPOINTED MEMBER IS COMMISSIONER GREEN.

>>RAY CHIARAMONTE: AS LONG AS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, IT WAS

SUGGESTED -- AND YOU CAN CHIME IN ON THIS -- BY OUR ATTORNEY

AT THE MPO THAT MAYBE THIS BOARD REAFFIRM TRENT, NOW THAT HE

IS GOING TO BE A VOTING MEMBER.

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: WELL, WE HAD HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT

THIS BEFORE THE MEETING, AND I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S --

THE BOARD DOESN'T NEED TO REAFFIRM THAT COMMISSIONER GREEN

IS -- BECAUSE HE'S BASICALLY APPOINTED BY THE CHAIR, SO WE

WOULD BE -- WE WOULD KIND OF BE CHANGING OUR PROCESS IF WE

HAD THE WHOLE BOARD VOTE ON IT, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS

WHY I JUST BROUGHT IT UP AND SAID THAT COMMISSIONER GREEN IS

OUR MEMBER, AND HE WILL BE THE VOTING MEMBER, AT LEAST UNTIL

SUCH TIME AS ANOTHER COMMISSIONER IS APPOINTED TO THAT

LOCATION.

THAT'S BASICALLY ALL THE CHAIR'S BUSINESS I HAVE.

IS THERE OLD BUSINESS?

AND THEN IS THERE NEW BUSINESS?

>>RAY CHIARAMONTE: YES.

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OKAY.

JUST TO BRING YOU UP-TO-DATE, SO YOU UNDERSTAND THE

RELATIONSHIP WITH THE MPO AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION,

BASICALLY, THE EMPLOYEES OF THE MPO, INCLUDING THE EXECUTIVE

DIRECTOR, ARE PLANNING COMMISSION EMPLOYEES, KIND OF

ASSIGNED AT DIFFERENT LEVELS TO THE MPO.

SOME ARE 100% OF THE TIME, SOME, MAYBE HALF OF THE TIME OR

WHATEVER THEY TEND TO DO.

WE KEEP TRACK OF ALL THAT.

THE SITUATION WITH THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IS A LITTLE BIT

DIFFERENT THAN THE PLANNING COMMISSION EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.

WHEN I WENT BACK TO LOOK AT WHAT THE PROCEDURE WAS TO NAME A

NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, IT BASICALLY SAYS THE DIRECTOR OF

THE PLANNING COMMISSION, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE PLANNING

COMMISSION, NAMES A NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND TAKES THAT TO

THE MPO BOARD, AND THEY EITHER ACCEPT IT OR REJECT IT.

BUT IT DOESN'T GIVE ANY KIND OF PROCEDURE.

WELL, I TOLD THEM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE RULES WERE, AND THEY

STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE IDEA OF DOING SOMETHING MORE LIKE

THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID WITH A NATIONAL SEARCH AND ALL

THAT.

AND THE ATTORNEY, WELL, BASICALLY TOLD THEM YOU WOULD HAVE

TO CHANGE THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE PLANNING

COMMISSION.

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AS I LISTENED TO THE CONVERSATION, I THOUGHT, OKAY, WHERE'S

MY RESCUE HERE?

BECAUSE IT TURNED INTO A LONG, COMPLICATED DISCUSSION.

AND THIS IS WHAT I SAID.

SINCE I HAVE CONTROL OVER THE PROCESS AND SINCE THEY WANT TO

DO A NATIONAL SEARCH, I WILL FIND OUT HOW THAT CAN BE DONE

FOR THE MPO DIRECTOR, AND I WILL ABIDE BY WHATEVER -- IF

THEY HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE OR A WHOLE COMMITTEE OF THE MPO --

DECIDE WHO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IS.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO CHANGE THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, WHICH

COULD TAKE A LONG TIME, AS YOU KNOW HOW LONG IT TOOK TO GET

ALL THIS CHANGE ON THE VOTING MEMBER TOOK.

SO THAT IS WHERE I LEFT IT.

THEN THEY WERE OKAY, AND THEY MADE A MOTION TO DO THAT.

SO WHAT I AM TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IS TO GET THE MPO GRANT

FUNDS TO PAY FOR THAT SEARCH.

BUT I HAVE TO TELL YOU, THERE'S A SMALL, TINY CHANCE THAT I

CAN'T DO THAT.

IN THAT CASE, I THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE PLANNING

COMMISSION TO DO THAT SINCE THAT PERSON IS AN EMPLOYEE OF

THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

SO I FEEL SINCE WE'VE ALREADY DONE AN RFP AND ALREADY PICKED

A SEARCH FIRM, I AM GOING TO MOVE AHEAD AND TRY TO GET

MERCER TO DO THAT, TO DO A SEARCH -- YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE

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LANGUAGE WOULD HAVE TO BE CHANGED ON THE CRITERIA, SALARY,

AND ALL THAT, WHICH I WOULD HAVE THE POWER TO DO.

I WOULD MAKE A NOTE TO THE MPO BOARD -- I WAS PLANNING ON

DOING THAT.

I THINK THAT WOULD FULFILL WHAT THEY WISH ME TO DO BECAUSE

WE ARE OBVIOUSLY BEHIND THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN THAT.

BUT I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT I WAS PLANNING

ON DOING IN CASE THERE WAS ANY CONCERN OR COMMENTS OR ADVICE

THAT YOU WANTED TO GIVE ME.

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: YEAH, I DON'T SEE ANY PARTICULAR PROBLEMS

WITH THAT.

DO YOU?

>>TRACY ROBIN: NO, AND I WOULD EXPECT IT TO BE UNDER THE

$25,000 THRESHOLD, WHICH OUR CONTRACT WAS.

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: WHICH DOESN'T REQUIRE ANY VOTE FROM THE

BOARD.

OKAY.

IS THERE ANY OTHER NEW BUSINESS?

COMMISSIONER GREEN.

>>THEODORE TRENT GREEN: MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH

MY MPO BOARD REPORT ALSO.

I HAVE TO APOLOGIZE FOR LYNN FOR PREPARING THIS FOR ME.

RAY SORT OF STOLE MY THUNDER.

HE DID SUMMARIZE THE CONTEXT OF THE MEETING WITH REGARDS TO

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NEW MPO DIRECTOR, LET'S SAY.

RELATIVE TO NEW BUSINESS, I JUST HAVE ONE COMMENT THAT

MYSELF AND COMMISSIONER BENSON, WE WERE DISCUSSING PRIOR TO

THE START OF THE MEETING.

BUT I'D LIKE TO STAND UP AND MAKE THIS POINT.

I'D LIKE FOR THE BOARD TO RECOGNIZE OUR DIRECTOR'S RECEIPT

OF THE FLORIDA APA'S LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD AT THE --

OH, OKAY.

SHOULD I -- WELL, SECOND TIME AROUND, BUT -- [LAUGHTER]

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS.

AT THE FLORIDA APA MEETING THIS LAST WEEK, OUR DIRECTOR, RAY

CHIARAMONTE, WAS PRESENTED THE LIFETIME SERVICE AWARD FOR

HIS OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENTS IN THE FIELD OF PLANNING.

AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY GIVE THESE OUT ALL THAT OFTEN, BY

YOU THOUGHT IT WAS VERY SPECIAL, ESPECIALLY FOR ONE OF OUR

OWN.

RAY, CONGRATULATIONS.

[APPLAUSE]

>>RAY CHIARAMONTE: I DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN,

BUT I AM GOING TO SAY A COUPLE THINGS.

I JUST -- YOU KNOW, I WILL PROBABLY SAY THIS AGAIN AT SOME

POINT IN THE FUTURE.

I JUST WANT TO THANK THIS BOARD FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ME

TO BE IN THIS POSITION.

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I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF BECAUSE I WOULDN'T HAVE GOT

SOMETHING LIKE THIS WITHOUT THE STAFF I HAVE WORKED WITH.

35 YEARS OF MY WORKING CAREER WERE AT THE PLANNING

COMMISSION IN TWO DIFFERENT CHUNKS, AND I AM JUST REALLY

PROUD TO BE A PLANNER, AND I AM LUCKY TO PICK A PROFESSION

THAT WAS JUST ABSOLUTELY WHAT I WANTED TO BE.

I KNOW SOME PEOPLE WORK IN JOBS THAT THEY DON'T LIKE, BUT I

REALLY LIKE MY JOB, AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR

MAKING THAT POSSIBLE.

[APPLAUSE]

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: WELL DESERVED, RAY.

IS THERE OTHER NEW BUSINESS?

OKAY.

COMMITTEE REPORTS?

COMMISSIONER THROWER.

>>MITCH THROWER: JUST WANTED TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE ANNUAL

PLANNING AND DESIGN AWARDS PROGRAM THAT'S GOING TO BE

OCTOBER 30 AT A LA CARTE PAVILION.

I WANT TO FIRST LET YOU KNOW WHO OUR SPONSORS ARE SO FAR.

WE'VE RECEIVED A TITLE SPONSORSHIP FROM TAMPA ELECTRIC AND

PEOPLES GAS.

WE WANTED TO THANK THEM.

WE'VE ALSO RECEIVED COMMUNITY SPONSORSHIP -- A COMMUNITY

SPONSORSHIP FROM THE CITY OF TEMPLE TERRACE, AND WE'VE

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RECEIVED GOOD NEIGHBOR SPONSORSHIPS FROM CED, RAY BROWER

ELECTRIC, AND MR. AND MRS. GARY PIKE.

THANK YOU.

SO WE WANTED TO THANK THEM.

IF ANYONE WOULD STILL LIKE TO BE A SPONSOR, YOU ARE WELCOME

TO.

YOU CAN CONTACT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND LYNN -- I WON'T

GIVE HER NUMBER OUT HERE, BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, YOU CAN

CONTACT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO STILL

BE A SPONSOR.

WE HAVE A -- WE'VE RECEIVED A WIDE VARIETY OF ENTRIES.

I HAVEN'T SEEN THEM PERSONALLY.

WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A JURY OR JUDGES THAT ARE GOING TO BE

JUDGING THE ENTRIES LATER THIS WEEK.

ALL THE JUDGES ARE FROM OUT OF THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, SO

THEY ARE UNBIASED FROM OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY.

THEY COME IN AND THEY JUDGE THE PROJECTS.

WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW ELECTRONIC INVITATIONS WILL BE

GOING OUT AT THE END OF THE WEEK.

THE COST FOR A TICKET IS $50 PER PERSON.

YOU CAN BUY -- YOU CAN BE A TABLE SPONSOR OR BUY A ABLE

TABLE, FOR $500, WHICH INCLUDES BEING ACKNOWLEDGED AT THE

AWARDS PROGRAM AS A TABLE SPONSOR.

WE ALSO WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT ABC ACTION NEWS ANCHOR

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BRENDAN McLAUGHLIN IS GOING TO BE THE SPOKESPERSON, THE

HONORARY HOST, AGAIN.

HE HAS DONE A GREAT JOB HOSTING THE EVENT, AND HE IS GOING

TO BE DOING IT AGAIN THIS YEAR.

HE'S DONE A GREAT JOB FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

I AM NOT SURE HOW MANY YEARS HE HAS DONE IT SO FAR, BUT I

KNOW IT'S BEEN A NUMBER OF YEARS.

SO WANTED TO THANK HIM AGAIN, AND WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO

THE EVENT.

LIKE I SAID, REMEMBER, IT'S OCTOBER 30, A THURSDAY NIGHT.

IT'S AT A LA CARTE PAVILION, WHICH IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE

HAD IT THERE, SO WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO A GREAT EVENT AND

HOPE EVERYBODY CAN ATTEND.

>>DEREK DOUGHTY: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER THROWER.

OTHER COMMITTEE REPORTS?

SEEING NONE, WE DO HAVE A WORKSHOP COMING UP.

WE ARE GOING TO TAKE ABOUT A FIVE-MINUTE BREAK FOR THE

WORKSHOP, AND WITH THAT, WE WILL ADJOURN.