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24 I . PE Ratios ¨ To understand the fundamentals, start with a basic equity discounted cash flow model. ¤ With the dividend discount model, ¤ Dividing both sides by the current earnings per share, ¤ If this had been a FCFE Model, P 0 = DPS 1 r g n P 0 EPS 0 = PE= Payout Ratio*(1 + g n ) r-g n P 0 = FCFE 1 r g n P 0 EPS 0 = PE= (FCFE/Earnings)*(1 + g n ) r-g n Aswath Damodaran 24

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I.PERatios

¨ Tounderstandthefundamentals,startwithabasicequitydiscountedcashflowmodel.¤ Withthedividenddiscountmodel,

¤ Dividingbothsidesbythecurrentearningspershare,

¤ IfthishadbeenaFCFEModel,

P0 =DPS1r −gn

P0

EPS0

= PE= Payout Ratio*(1+gn )

r-gn

P0 =FCFE1r −gn

P0

EPS0

= PE= (FCFE/Earnings)*(1+gn )

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UsingtheFundamentalModeltoEstimatePEForaHighGrowthFirm

¨ Theprice-earningsratioforahighgrowthfirmcanalsoberelatedtofundamentals.Inthespecialcaseofthetwo-stagedividenddiscountmodel,thisrelationshipcanbemadeexplicitfairlysimply:

¤ Forafirmthatdoesnotpaywhatitcanaffordtoindividends,substituteFCFE/Earningsforthepayoutratio.

¨ Dividingbothsidesbytheearningspershare:

P0 =EPS0*Payout Ratio*(1+g)* 1− (1+g)n

(1+r)n

"

#$

%

&'

r-g+ EPS0*Payout Ration*(1+g)n*(1+gn )

(r-gn )(1+r)n

P0EPS0

=Payout Ratio * (1 + g) * 1 − (1 + g)n

(1+ r)n"

# $ %

& '

r - g+

Payout Ratio n *(1+ g)n * (1 + gn )(r - gn )(1+ r)n

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ASimpleExample

¨ AssumethatyouhavebeenaskedtoestimatethePEratioforafirmwhichhasthefollowingcharacteristics:

Variable HighGrowthPhase StableGrowthPhaseExpectedGrowthRate 25% 8%PayoutRatio 20% 50%Beta 1.00 1.00Numberofyears 5years Foreverafteryear5

Riskfree rate=T.Bond Rate=6%Requiredrateofreturn=6%+1(5.5%)=11.5%

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P0

EPS0

=.20*(1.25)* 1− (1.25)5

(1.115)5

"

#$

%

&'

.115-.25+ .50*(1.25)5*(1.08)

(.115-.08)(1.115)5 = 28.75

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a.PEandGrowth:Firmgrowsatx%for5years,8%thereafter

PE Ratios and Expected Growth: Interest Rate Scenarios

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b.PEandRisk:AFollowupExample

PE Ratios and Beta: Growth Scenarios

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Example1:ComparingPEratiosacrossEmergingMarkets- March2014(pre- Ukraine)

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Russia looks really cheap, right?

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Example2:AnOldExamplewithEmergingMarkets:June2000

Country PE Ratio Interest Rates

GDP Real Growth

Country Risk

Argentina 14 18.00% 2.50% 45Brazil 21 14.00% 4.80% 35Chile 25 9.50% 5.50% 15Hong Kong 20 8.00% 6.00% 15India 17 11.48% 4.20% 25Indonesia 15 21.00% 4.00% 50Malaysia 14 5.67% 3.00% 40Mexico 19 11.50% 5.50% 30Pakistan 14 19.00% 3.00% 45Peru 15 18.00% 4.90% 50Phillipines 15 17.00% 3.80% 45Singapore 24 6.50% 5.20% 5South Korea 21 10.00% 4.80% 25Thailand 21 12.75% 5.50% 25Turkey 12 25.00% 2.00% 35Venezuela 20 15.00% 3.50% 45

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RegressionResults

¨ TheregressionofPEratiosonthesevariablesprovidesthefollowing–PE=16.16 - 7.94InterestRates

+154.40GrowthinGDP- 0.1116CountryRisk

RSquared=73%

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PredictedPERatios

Country PE Ratio Interest Rates

GDP Real Growth

Country Risk

Predicted PE

Argentina 14 18.00% 2.50% 45 13.57Brazil 21 14.00% 4.80% 35 18.55Chile 25 9.50% 5.50% 15 22.22Hong Kong 20 8.00% 6.00% 15 23.11India 17 11.48% 4.20% 25 18.94Indonesia 15 21.00% 4.00% 50 15.09Malaysia 14 5.67% 3.00% 40 15.87Mexico 19 11.50% 5.50% 30 20.39Pakistan 14 19.00% 3.00% 45 14.26Peru 15 18.00% 4.90% 50 16.71Phillipines 15 17.00% 3.80% 45 15.65Singapore 24 6.50% 5.20% 5 23.11South Korea 21 10.00% 4.80% 25 19.98Thailand 21 12.75% 5.50% 25 20.85Turkey 12 25.00% 2.00% 35 13.35Venezuela 20 15.00% 3.50% 45 15.35

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Example3:PEratiosfortheS&P500overtime

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PE NormalizedPE CAPE

PE NormalizedPE CAPE1969-2015 16.06 20.70 17.081986-2015 18.52 24.00 20.341996-2015 19.61 25.61 22.292006-2015 16.90 20.88 18.45

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Islow(high)PEcheap(expensive)?

¨ AmarketstrategistarguesthatstocksareexpensivebecausethePEratiotodayishighrelativetotheaveragePEratioacrosstime.Doyouagree?a. Yesb. No

¨ Ifyoudonotagree,whatfactorsmightexplainthehigherPEratiotoday?

¨ WouldyouresponddifferentlyifthemarketstrategisthasaNobelPrizeinEconomics?

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E/PRatios,T.BondRatesandTermStructure

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EarningstoPriceversusInterestRates:S&P500

EarningsYield T.BondRate Bond-Bill

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RegressionResults

¨ ThereisastrongpositiverelationshipbetweenE/PratiosandT.Bond rates,asevidencedbythecorrelationof0.66betweenthetwovariables.,

¨ Inaddition,thereisevidencethatthetermstructurealsoaffectsthePEratio.¨ Inthefollowingregression,using1960-2014data,weregressE/Pratiosagainst

thelevelofT.Bond ratesandatermstructurevariable(T.Bond - T.Bill rate)E/P=3.51%+0.5598T.Bond Rate– 0.1374(T.Bond Rate-T.Bill Rate)

(4.93) (6.23) (-0.65)Rsquared=41.28%

¨ Goingbackto2008,thisiswhattheregressionlookedlike:E/P=2.56%+0.7044T.Bond Rate– 0.3289(T.Bond Rate-T.Bill Rate)

(4.71) (7.10) (1.46)Rsquared=50.71%TheR-squaredhasdroppedandtheT.Bond rateandthedifferentialwiththeT.Billratehavenoth lostsignificance.Howwouldyoureadthisresult?

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II.PEGRatio

¨ PEGRatio=PEratio/ExpectedGrowthRateinEPS¤ Forconsistency,youshouldmakesurethatyourearningsgrowth

reflectstheEPSthatyouuseinyourPEratiocomputation.¤ Thegrowthratesshouldpreferablybeoverthesametimeperiod.

¨ TounderstandthefundamentalsthatdeterminePEGratios,letusreturnagaintoa2-stageequitydiscountedcashflowmodel:

¨ DividingbothsidesoftheequationbytheearningsgivesustheequationforthePEratio.Dividingitagainbytheexpectedgrowth‘g:

P0 =EPS0*Payout Ratio*(1+g)* 1− (1+g)n

(1+r)n

"

#$

%

&'

r-g+ EPS0*Payout Ration*(1+g)n*(1+gn )

(r-gn )(1+r)n

PEG=Payout Ratio*(1+g)* 1− (1+g)n

(1+r)n

"

#$

%

&'

g(r-g)+ Payout Ration*(1+g)n*(1+gn )

g(r-gn )(1+r)n

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PEGRatiosandFundamentals

¨ Riskandpayout,whichaffectPEratios,continuetoaffectPEGratiosaswell.¤ Implication:WhencomparingPEGratiosacrosscompanies,wearemakingimplicitorexplicitassumptionsaboutthesevariables.

¨ DividingPEbyexpectedgrowthdoesnotneutralizetheeffectsofexpectedgrowth,sincetherelationshipbetweengrowthandvalueisnotlinearandfairlycomplex(evenina2-stagemodel)

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ASimpleExample

¨ AssumethatyouhavebeenaskedtoestimatethePEGratioforafirmwhichhasthefollowingcharacteristics:

Variable HighGrowthPhase StableGrowthPhaseExpectedGrowthRate 25% 8%PayoutRatio 20% 50%Beta 1.00 1.00¨ Riskfree rate=T.Bond Rate=6%

¨ Requiredrateofreturn=6%+1(5.5%)=11.5%¨ ThePEGratioforthisfirmcanbeestimatedasfollows:

PEG =0.2 * (1.25) * 1− (1.25)5

(1.115)5

"

#$

%

&'

.25(.115 - .25)+ 0.5 * (1.25)5*(1.08)

.25(.115-.08) (1.115)5 = 115 or 1.15

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PEGRatiosandRisk

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PEGRatiosandQualityofGrowth

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PERatiosandExpectedGrowth

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PEGRatiosandFundamentals:Propositions

¨ Proposition1:HighriskcompanieswilltradeatmuchlowerPEGratiosthanlowriskcompanieswiththesameexpectedgrowthrate.¤ Corollary1:ThecompanythatlooksmostundervaluedonaPEGratio

basisinasectormaybetheriskiestfirminthesector¨ Proposition2:Companiesthatcanattaingrowthmoreefficiently

byinvestinglessinbetterreturnprojectswillhavehigherPEGratiosthancompaniesthatgrowatthesameratelessefficiently.¤ Corollary2:CompaniesthatlookcheaponaPEGratiobasismaybe

companieswithhighreinvestmentratesandpoorprojectreturns.¨ Proposition3:Companieswithveryloworveryhighgrowthrates

willtendtohavehigherPEGratiosthanfirmswithaveragegrowthrates.Thisbiasisworseforlowgrowthstocks.¤ Corollary3:PEGratiosdonotneutralizethegrowtheffect.

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