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IBD CAN SLIM® Investing
in a S
evereBear Market Rally:
Is It Possible to Win?
IBD
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p
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IBD
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p
Bosto
n, M
A
Febru
ary
25, 2009
Mik
e K
inkead
617.901.1784
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or Lookin
g for
Love (20%
+ W
inners
)
in A
ll the W
rong P
laces…
IBD
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p
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IBD
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p
Bosto
n, M
A
Febru
ary
25, 2009
Mik
e K
inkead
617.901.1784
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This presentation is for educational
purposes only and is not intended to be a
recommendation to buy or sell specific
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITY recommendation to buy or sell specific
securities.
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITYC
opyri
ght &
anoth
er
dis
cla
imer
�© 2009 Raw data used in this analysis is the sole
property of William J. O’Neil + Co., Inc, Investor’s
Business Daily and investors.com.
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ats used in this
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�© 2009 Analysis and presentation form
ats used in this
presentation are copyrighted by Mike Kinkead.
�The conclusions expressed in this presentation are
reached solely by M
ike Kinkead and in no way
represent an endorsement by IBD.
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITYSome of IBD’s 20 Rules
for Investm
ent Success…
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITY…are flipped upside down during rallies
in a s
evere
bearmarket!
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITYQ
uestions to a
nsw
er
�What is the norm
al process to identify and buy CAN
SLIM
stocks? Brief review with highlights only.
�What are the characteristics of stocks that gained 20%
or more during the latest rally?
�Are they traditional CAN SLIM
® stocks?
�Would we have found these stocks on our Watch List
at the beginning of the rally on 12.2.08?
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at the beginning of the rally on 12.2.08?
�How do IBD’s 20 Rules for Investm
ent Success change
during rallies in a severe bear market? Finding stocks is
the focus.
�What types of chart patterns work for buying now?
�What stocks in what O’Neil Industry Groups have very
strong fundamentals now?
�What’s on our current Watch List? Is there a stock pick?
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITY What is the norm
al process to identify
and buy IBD’s CAN SLIM® stocks?
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITYIBD’s CAN SLIM® process to find
stocks to buy in a n
orm
almarket
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITYFundamental factors* that create winners
and where to find this data in IBD
�Earnings growth: IBD’s EPS rating (70 and up)
�Positive sales and earnings m
omentum (acceleration):
�DGO weekly chart (use your eyeball)
�DGO Custom Screen W
izard
�Increasing sales growth: IBD’s SMR Rating
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�Increasing sales growth: IBD’s SMR Rating
�Expanding operating m
argins: IBD’s SMR Rating
�High return on equity: IBD’s SMR Rating
�Positive earnings surprises: Bolded IBD EARNUPs
�Strong cash flow: DGO weekly chart (120% or more x eps)
�Positive earnings revisions by analysts: DGO weekly chart
* From The Little Book that Makes You Richby Louis Navellier (except sales acceleration).
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IBD’s SMR Rating means that
earnings growth is more easily s
usta
inable
IBD’s SMR Rating components and an important nuance:
�Continued sales growth
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�High (and increasing) profit margins
�ROE of 17% or more but must adjust for debt as %
equity
�A high percentage of debt lowers ROE as reported on
the DGO weekly charts
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Rallies in a bear market
versus a severe bear market
In a norm
al bear � ���3.19.08 to 5.19.08
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al bear � ���3.19.08 to 5.19.08
In a severe bear � ���
12.2.08 to 1.12.09
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITYPrior IBD Meetup Talk
March, 2008 rally: NASDAQ up 13% to peak
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITYStocks still go up during rallies
in a severe bear market but…
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITYRally December, 2008 to early 2009:
NASDAQ up 6% to correction (14% to peak) 16
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITYWhat did the main market indices do
during this severe bear market rally?
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITY What are the characteristics of stocks
that gained 20% or more
during the latest rally?
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during the latest rally?
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITYWhat was the approach to analyze
CAN SLIM® stocks during this rally?
�Start with IBD CAN SLIM
stocks that have strong
fundamentals:
�EPS Rating of at least 70 (catches turnarounds)
�SMR Rating of A or B
�In a severe bear market, a lot of growth stocks are
beaten down and way below their 52-week highs:
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beaten down and way below their 52-week highs:
�Elephants are dumping these stocks
�90% of bases form
during m
arket corrections
�Bases are deep in severe bear markets
�Therefore, make no assumptions about CAN SLIM
®
technicals and m
omentum m
easures used by IBD.
�Use process of “discovery in data” to reveal the truth
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITYWhat universe of stocks
was analyzed during the rally?
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITYHow did all growth stocks
perform
during the rally?
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITYHow did CAN SLIM® stocks
perform
during the rally?
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITYCAN SLIM® stocks under $10
had much better returns!
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITYHow did non-CAN SLIM® stocks
perform
during the rally?
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITY1 in 5 chance of finding 20%+ winners…
CAN SLIM® or otherwise…in this rally
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITYOdds of finding winning CAN SLIM® stocks
are only 1 in 14 across all prices
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITYWhat about IBD’s® momentum
and institutional demand measures?
�Start with IBD CAN SLIM
stocks that have strong
fundamentals:
�EPS Rating of at least 70 (catches turnarounds)
�SMR Rating of A or B
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�During this rally in a severe bear market, test:
�Relative Strength
�O’Neil Industry Groups Relative Strength
�IBD’s Accumulation/Distribution m
easure
�Use process of “discovery in data” to reveal the truth
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITYLowRS, < $10 CAN SLIM® stocks
beat the market by 5X!
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITYUsing Acc/Dis of A or B will eliminate
73% of $10 up high gainers
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITYUsing Acc/Dis of A or B will eliminate
70% of < $10 high gainers
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITYCAN SLIM® stocks < $10 with Acc/Dis
Ratings of D
and E
are the BIG winners!
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITYO’Neil Industry Group Ranks 44 to 96
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So…how do IBD’s
20 Rules of Investm
ent Success
change* during rallies
in a severe bear market?
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Focus is on rules to find winner stocks
* Based on analyzing 1 rally…
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITYNew rules for finding winner stocks
in a severe bear market rally
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Let’s add one more important
fundamental measure available in the
IBD newspaper
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IBD newspaper
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITYEarnings News in IBD � ���
EARNUPs:
earnings beat expectations
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITYEarnings News in IBD 2.17.09:
Panera Bread (PNRA) in bold
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITYHow did the EARNUPs* perform
during the rally?
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*EARNUPs are bolded line stocks in IBD’s Earnings News between 10.1.08 and 1.12.09.
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITYWhat are the characteristics
of the 34 20+% EARNUP winners?
Very strong fundamentals as always:
�IBD EPS Rating of 70 or higher
�IBD SMR Rating of A or B
�Plus the added dimension of a positive earnings
surprise
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surprise
Momentum and the elephants:
�50% (17 of 34) has an IBD RS of 40 or less
�50% (17 of 34) were in the bottom half of O’Neil Industry
Group Ranks on 11.28.09 andon 1.12.09
�38% (13 of 34) has an IBD Acc/Dis of D or E
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITYOdds are low but the strong
but downtrodden triumph…
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A note about the
norm
ally powerful investors.com
combo Screens of the Day
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combo Screens of the Day
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What types of chart patterns
work now?
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITYWhat chart rules and patterns work?
�Focus on CAN SLIM
quality stocks at or within 15% of new
52-week high???
�Where? Not many available.
�Only 16 out of all 6,028 stocks hit new highs yesterday
�Identify stocks with a 30% prior uptrend and an acceptable
consolidation pattern (eg: double bottom)???
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�Few Black Border stocks in acceptable patterns
�Find stocks at the bottom of a consolidation pattern �
use
rules to identify a change in trend from down to up.
�See The M
arket Guys by AJ Monte and Rick Swope
�And the tools of the collective Boston IBD M
eetup group
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What stocks
in what O’Neil Industry Groups
have very strong fundamentals now?
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITYO’Neil Industry Groups with at
least 4 3D earnings growth stocks
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITYWhat is the approach to identify
stocks for our current Watch List?
�What is growing?
�Start with IBD CAN SLIM
stocks that have strong
fundamentals:
�EPS Rating of at least 70 (catches turnarounds)
�SMR Rating of A or B
Triple digit (3D) earnings growth with upside
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�Triple digit (3D) earnings growth with upside
surprises (EARNUPs) since 1.2.09
�Look in O’Neil Industry Groups with high 3D earners
�In the next rally during this severe bear market:
�Contest: stocks with an IBD RS of 1 to 40 versus 80+
�Include stocks in all O’Neil Industry Groups
�Include stocks with an IBD Acc/Dis Rating of D and E
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One special stock pick � ���
ATHN
* Warning: pending Earnings Release this Friday
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* Warning: pending Earnings Release this Friday
before market opens.
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITYFinal thoughts-Part 1 of 2
�Using IBD’s fundamental measures of financial strength,
there are still some excellent CAN SLIM
stocks.
�However, in today’s severe bear market, there are very
few IBD CAN SLIM
stocks that are in proper chart
patterns and at or within 15% of a new 52-week high.
�Even as IBD’s The Big Picture calls a new rally in this
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITY �Even as IBD’s The Big Picture calls a new rally in this
severe bear market, traditional CAN SLIM
stocks are not
delivering the gains that are the hallm
ark of IBD’s
investing approach.
�Per IBD’s continuing advice in The Big Picture, the
safest alternative is to stay in cash.
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MANAGING IN ADVERSITYFinal thoughts-Part 2 of 2
�There is another, m
ore risky investing alternative based
on the analysis presented tonight.
�The CAN SLIM
stocks with strong fundamentals have
been beaten down in this market and have low prices,
low IBD RS and Accumulation/Distribution Ratings and
often reside in the bottom half of O’Neil’s 197 Industry
Groups. Some of these stocks, especially those under
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Groups. Some of these stocks, especially those under
$10, saw strong gains during rallies in this bear market.
�The screening rules to find these stocks break the
IBD Rules for Investm
ent Success.
�For the adventurous investor, the screens shown
tonight, coupled with a change of trend pattern on daily
and weekly charts, offer buying opportunities.
�This alternative approach has m
uch lower odds of
successand is not for the faint of heart or wallet.
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Thank Y
ou!
�Mike Kinkead
�617.901.1784
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