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Page 1: IEEE 802 Wireless Coexistence Study Group

May 2002

Jim Lansford, Mobilian CorporationSlide 1

doc.: IEEE COEX 02/020r0

Submission

IEEE 802 Wireless Coexistence Study Group

Jim [email protected]

Tim [email protected]

Sydney Closing Summary

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May 2002

Jim Lansford, Mobilian CorporationSlide 2

doc.: IEEE COEX 02/020r0

Submission

Goals for Sydney meeting

• Review SEC conference calls– Broader feedback– Further refinement of mission statement

and goals– Finalize mission statement– Proposed definition of coexistence– Prep for Vancouver plenary

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Proposed Mission Statement

• The IEEE 802 Coexistence Technical Advisory Group (TAG) has the following missions:– The COEX TAG develops and maintains the IEEE

802 policy for establishing coexistence between Standards.

– The COEX TAG evaluates the coexistence issues between IEEE 802 PARs and Draft Standards, and makes recommendations to the IEEE 802 Executive Committee.

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Coexistence Definition

• Coexistence: The ability of one system to perform a task in a given shared environment where other systems have an ability to perform their tasks and may or may not be using the same set of rules. – Coexistence is quantified by degradation

(simulated or measured) under a set of usage model assumptions, which must be defined for coexisting systems

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Q&A #1• Will this group try to “quantify” coexistence?

– Not likely – coexistence depends on so many variables (geometry, power, etc.) that defining a number that says whether you have achieved it or not isn’t practical. Suggestion for WLAN/WPAN was made that no more than 10% degradation at 0.5 meters is a possible goal.

• What will this group do then?– We (IEEE 802) currently don’t have a policy for

addressing coexistence; that’s first. This policy will address the ground rules for analyzing the degradation two systems cause to each other (or pairs of systems for multiple standards).

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Q&A #2• How would this work?

– The TAG first defines policy. For example, the policy might be to say a WG needs to pick some usage models and determine the degradation due to a set of other approved standards, pair wise. We want to examine most likely scenarios, not corner cases, which may give pathological results.

• So how would you know if two systems “coexist”?– The TAG is an advisory group to SEC; analysis using the usage

models would be used by WGs and SEC to make informed decisions. This is a similar concept to the FCC’s OET. So the answer is that the TAG procedures will either convince voters that a Recommended Practice is needed, or that a draft has no coexistence issues and can proceed to further balloting. SEC needs to make sure coexistence is taken seriously or inter-WG squabbling may increase.

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Q&A #3• Does the TAG play a role other than formulating

policy?– Possibly. The current thinking is that the COEX TAG

develops a definition of coexistence and a policy to guide WG’s analysis of coexistence. Beyond that, the TAG may be called upon to help resolve coexistence conflicts by writing an independent report when a draft is submitted to SEC, but this has not been agreed upon. The TAG should be comprised of representatives from all the wireless WGs for balance.

• What about participation and voting?– A TAG is governed by the same attendance and voting rules

as WG’s, but the specifics are not finalized.

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Q&A #4• Doesn’t this need to have involvement with R-

REG?– R-Reg deals with governmental bodies; Coex works

inside IEEE 802. Several standards in the unlicensed bands are perfectly legal, but do not coexist well.

• What about drafts in process today?– There are three cases: Approved standards, TG

drafts at various points in the approval process, and future PARs. This TAG can address future PARs, but we need a short term solution for drafts in process. Approved standards are another issue.

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Notes from Monday

• Minutes: “COEX-02017r0_Coexistence-Meeting-Minutes-Sydney” on Mars

• Key points:– Desirable to coordinate with ETSI/BRAN– Discussion of “acceptable” degradation– Several ingredients needed in policy:

• PHY model (easiest)• MAC model (harder)• Upper layers (hardest)• Usage models are critical, and must be agreed upon

between affected WG’s

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Notes from Wednesday• Several observations that COEX TAG needs strong SEC

support to be effective• Need to address WG’s already underway: “horses have

left the barn”• Goals should be to:

– Address coexistence sooner rather than later in the process– Help drafts become standards faster by providing a framework to

resolve coexistence disputes– Make specific recommendations to WGs on how to improve

coexistence of drafts before Sponsor Ballot, including possible Maintenance PARs.

• Presentation by Art Astrin of Apple on coexistence measurements

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Summary

• Great participation – feedback greatly appreciated

• Growing realization that coexistence must be addressed sooner or later in the standards process.

• Coexistence policy/framework will help defuse disputes

• Balance and buy-in are important• Moving forward to create TAG in Vancouver