if dle is the answer what is the question
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If DLE is the Answer, What is the Question?
John MayerExecutive DirectorCenter for Computer-Assisted Legal [email protected]
What is Distance Legal Education?• Obvious
– Videoconference Courses– Web courses– Media by Mail
• Less Obvious– Co-teaching– Guest lecturers– Partial DLE– DLE “pieces”
• “Outside the Box”– LE for non-lawyers (for profit?)– LE for the public (public service)– Expanding Int’l opportunities
What is Distance Legal Education?• Synchronous
– Videoconferencing– Webcast– Chat– Conference call
• Asynchronous– Web-based materials– Lessons– Discussion (threaded, email, etc.)
– Offline Access
Course Design
Technology
Staffing
Costs
Scalability
Re-use
Why is DLE Interesting?
• Learning anytime, anywhere• Student-centered learning
model• Attuned to Net-Gen students• Attract or serve previously
un-servable students• Co-optition (cooperate & compete)
• New Markets/Revenue• …most important
Why is DLE Interesting?
REQUIRES FACULTY AND INSTITUTIONS TO EXAMINE THE LEARNING PROCESS
TO
…but, does Legal Education need to improve?
• Too expensive• Grads not ready for
practice• Faculty emphasize
scholarship - teaching excellence is not rewarded
want
Exercise:What is Broken in Legal Education?
Law is more important than ever
• Law is more ubiquitous than ever• Law is non-violent war• Law is friction to business• Law is codified morality• Law is advocacy’s sharpest tool• Law practice is legal education for
clients• …in short…
EVERYONE should be a lawyer!
Law is more important than ever
• We didn’t use to question our doctors…
• We didn’t use to know so much about computers
“Legal Literacy” is the next big global/societal
literacy wave
Why is DLE Interesting?
Defensive Distance Learning
• Online law schools succeeding
• There are new for-profit law schools in the US that challenge the traditional model of LE
• Huge unmet demand for legal assistance
• Huge increases in SRLs and greater demand for A2J
DLE Compellers
• Make money• Not lose money• Not lose academic control• Altruism
Exercise:What is compelling DLE at your school?
Exercise:What about DLE is compelling to you?
Barriers to DLE
• Institutional Interest• Aversion to Pioneering • Technical challenges• Finding the markets• Administrivia• Quality• What is everyone else
doing?
• Address N x M Problem• Web services, tools,
databases, surveys, etc.• Training – maybe
• Bring to surface scattered interest
• Don’t have to start from scratch
• Applied Research
Goals of CODEC:Lowering the Barriers
• Observe• Report• Disseminate• Facilitate• Innovate
Progress Report
• 48 members• http://codec.cali.org• Presentations at 6 schools• Japan and Europe• Peter Martin’s DE on DLE• Videoconferencing Survey• Classifieds • Grades and Calendars• ClassCaster
Videoconferencing Survey
• 77 Responders / October 2004• 22% do not use VC• 17% use university computing
or media services for VC• 25% have NO VC facilities at
law school• 39% have roll-around units• 25% have perm-installed
seminar room for VC
Videoconferencing Survey
• 49% used VC for guest lecturers
• 40% have used VC for a semester-length course
• 41% conducted NO course related VC in FY03-04
• 11% conducted several/week course-related VC sessions
• 34% used VC for student interviews
Progress Report
• 48 members• http://codec.cali.org• Presentations at 6 schools• Japan and Europe• Peter Martin’s DE on DLE• Videoconferencing Survey• Classifieds • Grades and Calendars• ClassCaster
Grades and Calendars
• Calendars are a slog and we are slogging
• Grades need a deft touch and we are looking for consulting help
ClassCaster
• New Service from • www.classcaster.org• Classroom + Podcasting
(but this goes way beyond the classroom)
• Even Luddite Faculty Can Use It
experimental
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1. Register at CALI website
2. When class starts, Make a phone call
3. Teach the class
4. Students download to theiriPod or listen to the lecture via the web.
5. Faculty downloads and editsFor future classes, distance learning, etc.
2. In class, play back the interview
1. Outside of class, call your interviewee and conference in ClassCaster
ClassCaster
3. After class, students can listen to the interview via the web or download to their MP3player
Audio Legal Education Ideas
• Pre-recorded interviews with attorneys in current events cases
• “Phone in” lectures instead of canceling class
• Audio exam reviews• “Director Commentary” on
Law Review Articles• Mystery Science Theatre
CALI lessons
This is where I ended the presentation due to time constraints. The rest is about Classcaster. There is a complete presentation on this in my other conference session.
1. Faculty goes to CALI website and runs CALI lesson in “Classcaster” mode
2. Faculty records commentaryby phone or directly into PC withUSB microphone
3. Faculty gets unique URL andsends it to students or posts to class website
4. Student runs CALI lessons from that URL and can seeTheir own professor’s commentary
---------------------------------Professor Smith’s Commentary
---------------------------------Professor Jones’s (Louisville) Commentary
---------------------------------Professor Quentel’s (Chicago-Kent) Commentary
---------------------------------Professor McFarland’s Commentary (authorof this CALI lesson)
Lowering the Barriers to
Inter-institutional Distance Legal
Education CLOSING REMARKS