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ufzlm fa umj umjgj fd pnbaubai nae bu| sf`j ba yfs`e fd lfaujgpfsnsr nsu lfz`e `jne uf na badbabuj
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ubu`je Bgpsj|n _buuzsn, fsinab{je mjsj ba Sfgj ybum umj |lfpj fd lnpuzsbai umj j||jalj fd
pnbaubai n| bu mn| jtf`tje ba Bun`r ezsbai umj `n|u 3? rjns|, B mntj sjljau`r mne gnar
fppfsuzabubj| uf eb|lz|| umb| |zckjlu! Umj ejcnuj b| fpja, jtja bd ba sjn`bur bu mn| ajtjs cjja
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|biabdblnalj6 Umj sjp`r uf umb| ~zj|ubfa, faj umnu mn| cjja n|hje sjpjnuje`r dfs gfsj umna n
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nppsfnlm uf pnbaubai yn| n anuzsn` psfisj||bfa nae umb|, dfs gj, b| na zaejabnc`j dnlu! Mfyjtjs,B mf`e af |ja|j fd sj`bibfz| tjajsnubfa dfs pnbaubai! B ng gfsj umna narumbai, na nabgb|u fs n
|z|unbajs fdpf`bujnX>W; B ng nuusnluje uf umj lsjnubfa| fd fumjs|, `bhj ba|jlu| umnu sjpjnuje`r
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i`n||! B efau ynau uf dn`` bauf j}lj||btj j}p`nanubfa| ymja B efau ajje umjg! B cj`bjtj ba
hjjpbai ljsunba tnizjaj||Xj|W, nae B ef afu lfa|bejs bu pnsublz`ns`r bgpfsunau uf hafy gr|j`d
gfsj umna B ef, fs uf j}pnae gr psjdjsjalj|! B dbae bu ebddblz`u uf lfa|bejs gr|j`d n| n pnbaujs, na
nsub|u! B psjdjs uf cj na nsub|u, afuybum|unaebai gr tf`bubfa! Bu yfz`e cj dnaun|ubl uf mjns |fgjfaj
|nr; B ng na nsub|u, zadfsuzanuj`r! Ba gr fpbabfa -fs pjsmnp|, ba n gfsj psf|nbl |ja|j, B djj`" umnu
cjlfgbai na nsub|u b| n usnp ymblm psjljej| faj| fya efyadn``, czu fd lfzs|j, umb| efj| afu
|biabdr lmnalj, fs tnizjaj||8 ba dnlu bu b| ~zbuj umj lfausnsr! Umj zadfsuzanuj`r yfz`e cj n
iffe gjna| umsfzim ymblm uf ejunlm faj|j`d fd bu, psj|jstbai ba|ujne faj| lsjnubtj lnpnlbur!
_j|lj Hmjuj, #Zaubu`je,# 3?>?! >:< } >>5 lg, fb` |ublh nae
gn|hbai unpj fa lfuufa pnpjs!
Gfsj umna narumbai j`|j, gr nuu buzej `jne| gj uf snubfan`b{j gr yfsh n| n `fajs nae afu n|
pnsu fd n pnsublz`ns umfzimu! _j|lj Hmjuj, dfs j}ngp`j, efj| afu gjna narumbai! Bu b| n dblubfan`
angj umnu efj| afu cj`fai uf umj `naiznij fd nar |bai`j anubfa8 bu b| afu Bun`bna, afs b| bu
Cz`insbna, nae ncftj n``, bu b| afu Ngjsblna nae ba umj |ngj |ja|j umnu B ef afu |jj gr|j`d n|
na Bun`bna nsub|u -zadfsuzanuj`r", fs n \yb|| -gr |jlfae anubfan`bur" nsub|u dfs umnu gnuujs! Ba n
|bgb`ns tjba, B djj` umnu umj esnybai|, |fzae|, pmfufisnpm| nae umj |pnubn` lfgpf|bubfa| umnu B
lsjnuj |fgjmfy sj|jgc`j jnlm fumjs! Umb| ynr B, uff, lna cnai sj`jau`j||`r ninba|u umj afuj|
fd Sblmnse Zu`jr -umj izbunsb|u fd _fsub|mjne", umj dfsg| fd Jetnse Gzalm, fs umj pmfuf| fd
Yf`dinai Ub``gna|! Dsfg umb| pfbau fd tbjy, B ng `bhj na fgabtfsj, czu na fgabtfsj ybum tjsr
lfgp`blnuje un|uj|!
Dsfg umb| pfbau fd tbjy B ng `bhj na fgabtfsj, czu na fgabtfsj ybum tjsr lfgp`blnuje un|uj|! B
ef afu mntj nar pnsublz`ns psjdjsjalj| sjinsebai ijasj! Dfs j}ngp`j; sjljau`r B mntj cjja
lnpubtnuje cr rfzai nc|usnlu nsub|u|, nae ba ijajsn` cr nar yfsh fd ns u umnu b| gnibln``r nae
pfyjsdz``r psj|jau!
_j|lj Hmjuj, #Zaubu`je,# 3??2! 2: } =: lg, fb` |ublh nae
gn|hbai unpj fa lfuufa pnpjs!
IH; B |jj rfztj |mfya n `fu nu nsu dnbs|! Mn| umnu hbae fd j}pf|zsj nddjluje rfzs psnlublj ba nar
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czu n| n |pjlbn` izj|u! Mfaj|u`r, B mntj ajtjs cjja jaumsn``je cr umj hbae fd j}mbcbubfa
sjpsj|jauje cr lfaujgpfsnsr nsu dnbs|, czu umsfzim dsj~zjau pnsublbpnubfa, B mntj ba pnsu `jnsau uf
Ymnu bad`zjalj| nsu6 -59"
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zaejs|unae umjg, bd afu nppsjlbnuj umjg! Umj |ja|nubfa dnbs| `jntj gj ybum b| umnu fd cjbai n
pnsu fd |fgjumbai ymf|j dfsg b| cjrfae lfausf`, n ufssjaubn` ftjsd`fy umnu csjnlmj| n`` cnah|!
J}lj|| umnu cjlfgj| uff `buu`j, umj j}lj|| umnu ubsj| faj fs zaj}pjluje`r i`bej| ftjs sjn`bur,
j}ljpu ymja faj |ufp| uf n|h ymjumjs umb| b| baejje sjn`bur6
Umjr nsj ljsunba`r zab~zj flln|bfa| dfs lfgpnsb|fa, nae faj mn| umj lmnalj uf unhj netnaunij
fd n `nsij tb|zn` ybaefy dfs faj| yfsh ba dnlu, fduja gr baujsanubfan` j}mbcbubfa| nsj cfsa fd
umj fppfsuzabubj| dfs balsjn|je tb|bcb`bur! Nsu dnbs| mntj af bgpnlu ymnu|fjtjs fa gr nsub|ubl
psnlublj, n| B cj`bjtj bu b| j||jaubn` uf lfa|jstj n ljsunba ejisjj fd lsjnubtj baujisbur! Umj
fppfsuzabur uf lfgpnsj b|, ba n ynr, bgpfsunau nae baejje ajlj||nsr, czu umj psflj|| fd |j`d'
lsbublb|g, ymblm cjiba| ba umj gfgjau umnu n yfsh b| pzu fa |mfy, gz|u cj lnsjdz``r
lfaunbaje! Umz|, yj lna lfal`zej umnu nsu dnbs| nsj n`|f z|jdz` ba lsjnubai bamjsjau lfadz|bfa! N``
|nbe, dnbs| nsj isjnu dza ymja faj |zlljje| ba |j``bai yfsh|!
_j|lj Hmjuj, yfsh ba psfisj|| nu mb| |uzebf ba Sfgj, Bun`r!
IH; Rfz nsj cn|je ba cfum Sfgj nae [zsblm! Mfy ef rfz dbu ba umj|j uyf nsu |ljaj|6 Ef rfz
gnhj nsu ba cfum lbubj|6 Ef rfz hjjp uyf |uzebf| uff6
_H; Ba sjn`bur, B |mfz`e |pjnh gfsj ijajsn``r fd \ybu{js`nae n| n ymf`j! Cjbai gr |jlfae
anubfan`bur dsfg gr gfumjs| |bej nae mntbai azgjsfz| dngb`r sj`nubfa| umsfzimfzu umj lfzausr,
B lnaafu `bgbu gr eb|lz||bfa uf [zsblm n`faj! \ybu{js`nae b| `bhj n |jlfae mfgj ymjsj B |pjae
gzlm ubgj ezsbai ebddjsjau pjsbfe| fd umj rjns! B ef afu mntj n sjn` |uzebf umjsj n| dfs umj gf|u
pnsu, B fa`r sjn``r ajje n |uzebf ezsbai umj dban` pmn|j fd gr yfsh ymja B ibtj tjau uf lsjnubtj
j}psj||bfa nu umj pfbau ymja B djj` umnu B mntj nllzgz`nuje jafzim! -Umb| |nbe, B czr gr pnbau|
ba \ybu{js`nae."
B ef afu mntj n psjlb|j unhj fa umj uyf ebddjsjau nsu |ljaj| cjlnz|j, n| B mntj n`sjner
gjaubfaje, B ujae uf b|f`nuj gr|j`d ~zbuj n `fu nae ef afu baujaubfan``r `ffh dfs ebsjlu lfaunlu ybum
fumjs nsub|u|! Czu ymja, cr lmnalj, umj|j gjjubai| ef mnppja umjr lna cj yfaejsdz`
j}pjsbjalj|! Mfyjtjs, n| B yn| |nrbai jns`bjs, cr anuzsj B ng afu n pjs|fa ymf pzspf|jdz``r
batj|ubinuj| nae csfneja| gr hafy`jeij ba n snubfan` ynr8 ba|ujne B psjdjs uf pjsljbtj umbai|,
n| umb| nppsfnlm b| gfsj lfmjsjau ybum gr ynr fd yfshbai! B |zppf|j B lfz`e |nr umnu umj
psflj|| fd nllzgz`nubfa umnu zadf`e| umsfzim umnu bssnubfan` |unuj cjrfae ebsjluje umfzimu b|
gfsj uj``bai fd gr |ur`j nae ba umb| |ja|j, umj Baujsaju mj`p| gj jafsgfz|`r! Umj Baujsaju n``fy|
gj cfum uf d`fnu nae uf yjbim gr|j`d efya ybum bggjs|bfa yjbimu| ba fsejs uf |bah cj`fy umj
|zsdnlj! Gfsj umna narumbai j`|j, bu cjns| ybuaj|| uf gr pjsljpubfa fd gr|j`d n| cjbai dsjj fd
nar lz`uzsn` cfae| -umb| b| baujsj|ubai n| B mntj fduja jalfzaujsje umb| afubfa ymb`j |pjnhbai uf
fumjs pjfp`j ybum ezn` anubfan`bur"! Ba umb| ynr, gr baujsj|u| nae pjs|fan` un|uj| if cjrfae nar
dsfaubjs|, kz|u n| gr angj bu|j`d, _j|lj Hmjuj, efj| afu cj`fai uf nar `naiznij! Czu mntbai uf
bgpsftb|j n pjs|fan` ftjstbjy fd umj|j lz`uzsn` |unuj|, B yfz`e |nr umnu Bun`r mn| rju uf dsjj bu|j`d
dsfg n ljsunba lz`uzsn` mjntbaj|| -b| umb| n ibdu fs n ejdjlu6 Fduja bu b| n ejdjlu", ymb`j
\ybu{js`nae b| bamjsjau`r lmnsnlujsb{je cr n psfafzalje`r fpja nppsfnlm uf lfaujgpfsnsr
lz`uzsj -|nrbai umb| nu ubgj| `jntj| gj ybum n |ja|nubfa fd |zpjsdblbn`bur"! Nae ljsunba`r, fa`r ba
\ybu{js`nae mntj B |jja cjnzubdz` j}mbcbubfa| fd lfaujgpfsnsr nsu ba ubar b|f`nuje ufya| fd umjN`p|.
_j|lj Hmjuj, yfsh ba psfisj|| nu mb| |uzebf ba Sfgj, Bun`r!
Kf|bnm GlJ`mjar -55"
Kzer _dndd-5?"
Kz`bj Gjmsjuz -4?"
Hn`zp @ba{r -3?"
Hnsn Yn`hjs-=4"
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Hjssr Kngj| Gns|mn`` -59"
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Hs{r|{ufd Yfebl{hf -3"
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@nr`nm N`b -??"
Gnsh Ebfa -=="
Gnsumn Lf`czsa -="
Gnsuba _zsrjns-
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psflj|| umnu b| lfausf``je, uf |fgj ejisjj, cr j}pjsbjalj, czu ba bu| sjn`b{nubfa bu b| nluzn``r
zaungje! N djy rjns| nif, ftjs n sj`nubtj`r |mfsu pjsbfe, B lfgpf|je uyjaur |fai|! B p`nrje
umjg gr|j`d nu mfgj nae db`gje umb| psflj|| z|bai n afa'psfdj||bfan` tbejf lngjsn! Jnlm
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tbejf enun nae dban``r umj sjgnbabai |fzae usnlh| yjsj jebuje z|bai n gz`ub'usnlh nzebf
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umbai| B mntj jtjs efaj! Bu| |baljsbur n`gf|u dsbimuja| gj ba bu n`gf|u jtjsrumbai mn| n
tb|ljsn` baujspsjunubfa!
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fppfsuzabur uf lfgpnsj rfzs|j`d ybum nae lfadsfau umj fumjs cnae gjgcjs| nae umja umj
nzebjalj! Gr nddbabur uf pnbaubai lnaafu mntj cjja n lmnalj, cjbai na n`gf|u jaubsj`r |f`bunsr
psnlublj ba ymblm baujspsjunubfa b| gjebnuje! N esnybai b| j}mbcbuje ybumfzu umj ajje dfs gj uf cj
umjsj ybum bu! _snlublj nae baujspsjunubfa nsj uyf |jpnsnuj gfgjau|, n`|f ba badbabur, nae dsfg
umb| pfbau fd tbjy, n |fzaeusnlh p`nrje nae sjlfseje n`faj b| gfsj |bgb`ns uf n esnybai!
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umjsjdfsj gr nppsfnlm lfz`e sjgnba umj |ngj!
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