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    Biogeosciences Discuss., 8, C1279–C1284, 2011www.biogeosciences-discuss.net/8/C1279/2011/© Author(s) 2011. This work is distributed underthe Creative Commons Attribute 3.0 License.

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    Interactive comment on “Microbial food webdynamics along a soil chronosequence of aglacier forefield” by J. Esperschütz et al.

    J. Esperschütz et al.

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    Received and published: 27 May 2011

    Dear Editor and Reviewer #2,

    The authors like to express their thanks to the anonymous referee#2 for her/his valu-able comments in response to the manuscript. We hope that you will find our responsesatisfactory as we feel that this study provides novel and unique insights into micro-bial foodwebs under field conditions and thus will be of great interest to the journalaudience. We are open to any further suggestions that you may consider necessary.

    With regard to the major remark related to the grouping of the different phospholipidsinto microbial categories (bacteria, protozoa, fungi, etc) rather than in their originalchemical groups (PUFA, PLEL, etc.), we would like to point out that we are aware of

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    other studies where the approach suggested by the reviewer has been followed. How-ever, in our opinion this approach (microbial groupings) can be sometimes misleadingas often one group of lipids is present in different microorganisms. For example, PLFA18:1w9 may indicate fungal abundance, but also appears in bacteria (Bååth et al.,1992; Bååth, 2003); 16:1w5 can be used as indicator for arbuscular mycorrhiza, butmay also be synthesized by Gram-negative bacteria (Butler et al., 2003; Olsson, 1999);PLFA 18:2w6,9 was detected in Gram-negative bacteria, fungi but also cyanobacteria,as stated in the manuscript (Nichols and McMeekin, 2002; Zaady et al., 2010; Zelleset al., 1999). A statistical comparison based on microbial groups would therefore beinadequate due to the overlapping indicator values of certain fatty acids. Instead ofusing the microbial grouping, we decided to use “a group of fatty acids with a similarchemical structure as a bio-indicator for certain micro-organisms” (Zelles et al., 1995),which has been suggested by Zelles and co-workers as an alternative method for inter-pretation of PLFA profiles. We apologize for this confusion and suggest including thisexplanation in the PLFA description of the Materials and Methods section. However,to prove that the grouping does not mask the behaviour of individual PLFAs we addedan additional figure 1a and 2a to our response, based on means of individual PLFAsof each treatment. In the PLFA description of the Materials & Methods section, wesuggest stating that there are “no differences in the PCA analyses between individualPL and grouped PL”; however, "for purposes of illustration chemical grouped PL (basedon Zelles et al., 1995) were used in the following study.” We think that this is the bestway to present the data, but if the reviewer and editor still think otherwise, we are opento accomplish those changes that they may think necessary.

    Concerning the general comments, we will provide the requested raw data (PLFA pro-portions of groups (1a) and individual (1b) as well as δ13C raw data of (1a) groups and(2b) individual PLFA) in the supplemental; furthermore, we will revise the captures ofall tables and figures by specifying the investigated samples. In order to comply withthe provided technical comments we suggest including the following revisions in thefinal version:

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    P1282/20-24 The plant litter material was applied under the vegetation cover. This wasdone by physically lifting up the soil layer with vegetation cover (specified accordingto referee #1 (“For this purpose the vegetation cover was physically removed and im-mediately replaced after litter application to ensure undisturbed conditions during theexperimental period.”). At harvest, the soil layer with vegetation cover was removedagain. In this manner, we took away most roots from vegetation in the samples. Nev-ertheless, samples were thoroughly screened to remove any root material prior to ex-traction. The applied plant litter at the two harvesting time points was black and thuseasily distinguishable from the soil substrate. Because the litter was placed below theroot system, no influence from external litter is to be expected. PLFA analyses of theinitial plant litter indicate high contents of PLFA 18:3, which is common in higher plantsand roots. In our soil samples, no PLFA 18:3 was detected indicating that roots andlitter residues were separated successfully.

    P1284/16 We suggest including the following short description into the lipid section andreferencing the method with respect to measure isotopes: “According to Wuchter et al.(2003), 13C enriched PLEL isoprenoids indicate archaeal activity. An aliquot of thephospholipids equivalent to 25 g (dry weight) was therefore used for PLEL extractionas described by Gattinger et al. (2003). In brief, after an acidic hydrolysis, ether corelipids were treated with hydriodic acid (57%) for 18 hours at 100◦C to cleave the etherbonds. The resulting alkyl iodides were reduced to the corresponding hydrocarbonsusing 100 mg zinc powder in glacial acetic acid at 100◦C for 18 h.”

    We hope to have addressed all questions and remarks satisfactorily and will includethe proposed revision in the final version to be submitted to Biogeosciences.

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    References not included in the original manuscript:

    Bååth, E., Frostegard, A., and Fritze, H.: Soil bacterial biomass, activity, phospholipidfatty acid pattern, and pH tolerance in an area polluted with alkaline dust deposition,

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    Applied and Environmental Microbiology, 58, 4026-4031, 1992.

    Bååth, E.: The Use of Neutral Lipid Fatty Acids to Indicate the Physiological Conditionsof Soil Fungi, Microb. Ecol., 45, 373-383, 2003.

    Butler, J. L., Williams, M. A., Bottomley, P. J., and Myrold, D. D.: Microbial CommunityDynamics Associated with Rhizosphere Carbon Flow, Appl. Env. Microbiol., 69, 6793-6800, 2003.

    Olssen, P. A.: Signature fatty acids provide tools for determination of the distributionand interactions of mycorrhizal fungi in soil, FEMS Microbiol. Ecol., 29, 303-310, 1999.

    Wuchter C., Schouten, S., Boschker, H.T.S. and Damsté, J.S.S.: Biocarbonate uptakeby marine Crenarchaeota, FEMS Microbiol. Let. 219, 203-207, 2003

    Zelles, L., Bai, Q. Y., Rackwitz, R., Chadwick, D., and Beese, F.: Determination ofphospholipid- and lipopolysaccharide-derived fatty acids as an estimate of microbialbiomass and community structure in soils, Biol. Fert. Soils, 19, 115-123, 1995.

    Please also note the supplement to this comment:http://www.biogeosciences-discuss.net/8/C1279/2011/bgd-8-C1279-2011-supplement.pdf

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    control treatment 8 weeks litter incubation

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    iso:i14:0, i15:0, i16:0, i17:0

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    PUFA:18:2ω6,9, 18:2ω8,12, 20:4, 22:4

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