interactive gambling regulations presentation to the portfolio committee of trade and industry...
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Interactive Gambling Regulations
Presentation to the Portfolio Committee of Trade and Industry (Committee) on the Regulations for
Interactive Gambling (IG Regulations)
12 August 2009
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Delegation
• Zodwa Ntuli: Deputy Director General Consumer and Corporate Regulatory Division (CCRD)Telephone: (012) 394 1537
• Mpho Mosing: Director Regulated Industries, CCRDTelephone: 012 394 1504
• Themba Marasha: Chief Operations Officer, National Gambling Board (NGB)Telephone: 012 394 3800
• Tlotliso Polaki: Secretary of the Board, NGB Telephone: 012 393 34800
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Purpose
• The purpose of the presentation is to:
Address questions raised by Committee on the IG Regulations
Outline substantial inputs received from stakeholders on the IG Regulations
Present possible amendments to the regulations pursuant to Committee briefing and stakeholder consultations
To afford the Committee an opportunity to provideinputs on the proposed amendments to the IG Regulations
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Responses
QuestionHow are minors protected in the regulations from access to interactive gambling activity?
Answer protection of minors are amplified in the registration and banking requirements, and the
issuing of username and password for registration, a player will have to fill in an NGB Form 10 the bank has to stamp the form confirming banking details and the identity of the bank
account holder the form with banking details and stamp will be submitted to operator by prospective
player, including certified copy of the identity document and any form of proof of residential
operator upon receipt will verify with the banks the account number and identity once verified the operator will issue username and password for access to games. should it happen that a minor does access interactive games, money won will not be
accessible as the funds should be paid to a nominated account held by an adult Operator found transgressing face suspension or revocation of a license, and also face
criminal sanctions
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ResponsesQuestion
Concurrency with provinces and NGB, where are these 10 licenses going to be located?
Answer
Due to the borderless nature of IG, licenses will be issued nationally by the National Gambling Board. The location of the operators will be spread across the Republic. This will be done through a licensing process to ensure an equitable spread.
The spread of the licenses will take into account the number and geographic spread of the existing license casinos the period of validity of the interactive gambling licenses and collection of tax BBBEE empowerment Job creation and opportunity for new entrants in the industry Competition and efficiency of operation within the gambling industry
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Responses
Questions
Regulations must Exclude cell phones from interactive gambling
Answer
We recognize the concern about allowing cell phones however: It will be impractical for the operator or NGB to trace the communication tool used IG requires a player to have internet in order to interact communication tools that can access the net are different and include mobile phone
To exclude mobile phones regulations would have to define mobile phone, and given the technological developments this will certainly prove to be difficult especially considering different mobile phones such as blackberry & cell phones with 3G cards
Restricting the use of mobile phones will be an artificial restriction that will not achieve the intended purpose
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Question
How do we ensure that this legislation acts as a catalyst in the poor communities?
Answer
The licensing process will determine location of operator to ensure equitable spread of benefits to provinces
The Act empowers the Board to impose license conditions that will ensure commitment of the IG Operator to contribute to: community development initiatives based on revenue generated and programmes for treatment of problem gambling and addiction
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ResponsesQuestion
How is NGB dealing with illegal operators advertising in South Africa when the activity is still illegal
Answer
Court challenge Action was taken against Piggs Pigg for offering interactive gambling in the Republic (Gauteng case) The court of first instance held that the activity is illegal is the Republic and should not be offered to
South Africans Piggs Pigg is appealing the decision arguing that because the server in based in Swaziland the
gambling activity is therefore offered in Swaziland This continues to be a challenge but NGB will continue to act against these illegal operators
Coordination with other government departments/agencies Interventions with Department of Communication to prohibit broadcasting interactive gambling
related activities Explore Electronic Communication Act provisions for cyber inspectors - together with Gambling
inspectors NGB may enhance monitoring and enforcement Constant monitoring of the web is required and capacity and skill is currently being acquired so as to
fully attend to this challenge. Cost of violating the regulations must be high to deter non compliance – severe sanctions such as
revocation
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Comments
Organisation/s Regulations Comment the dti’s Response
Response by thePortfolioCommittee
Action
Tsogo Sun, Mpumalanga Gambling Board, Playtech, Whitesmans, Bwin and Lurie Inc
Tsogo Sun, Mpumalanga Gambling Board, Whitesmans, Bwin and Lurie Inc
Regulation2 (2) Specified games, systems and methods (Regulation disallows games by two or more people facilitated by a third party)
Regulation 3 (1) (2): forms of electronic communication(Regulation prescribes that the interactive games may only be accessed via the internet of the operator.)
Effect of regulation is to exclude Poker and Bingo which are very popular games in IG
There is no reason why other modes of communication are excluded.
The regulation is intended to exclude any games that are not played against the house but against each other, such as poker tournaments
The intention of the regulations is to exclude modes that do not connect to the internet. We concede that it may be impractical to detect what mode is used to connect to the net and thus restriction of any mode will just be an artificial restriction that is not enforceable. Technological developments will make it even more difficult.
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Comments
Organisation/s Regulations Comment the dti’s Response
Response by thePortfolioCommittee
Action
Tsogo Sun, Mpumalanga Gambling Board, Wagerworks, Whitesman,Bwin and Lurie Inc and Sun International
Regulation 5: dispute resolution and
complaints procedure
(Must refer the matter to the board for resolution; the board may refer the matter for mediation)
5 (6) Board is better placed to deal with the complaints, complaints should start with CEO then be appealed to the board instead of referring for mediation. It is the boards responsibility to adjudicate, and make decisions.
Board is best suited to look at the technical issues that might arise as the regulator and therefore the decision of the board will be final, and can be appealed with the normal judicial processes.
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Comments
Organisation/s Regulations Comment the dti’s Response
Response by thePortfolioCommittee
Action
Peermont, Tsogo Sun, Whitesman, Wagerworks, Piggs Peak, Oxipite, Phumelela Gaming, Playtech, Banking Association of South Africa, Bwin, Lurie Inc, Smartec, Betfair, Banking Association of South Africa, Peermont, Whitesman, Wagerworks, Piggs Peak, Oxipite and Phumelela Gaming
Regulation 6 Nominated Account
(Only a cheque or credit account must be nominated)
Regulation 7: Limit on funds and time for participating (Notice to increase the limit in the nominated account is effective after 7 days)
Limiting required accounts to cheque and credit will exclude other accounts such as savings account, e-wallets, neteller and paypal. -Must allow player one account per operator-Must allow player an option to change account
Seven days to effect increase is too long. A period of 48 hours would be reasonable.
This is meant to exclude particularly savings account , further paypals, e-wallats facilitate payments and are not accounts.
7 days is normally regarded as reasonable cooling off days is meant to give a player the opportunity to assess the decision, perhaps 48 hrs would also suffice.
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Comments
Organisation/s Regulations Comment the dti’s Response
Response by thePortfolioCommittee
Action
All stakeholders
Regulation 8:Maximum credit in player account (maximum is R20 000)
Regulation 9 and 10: Player Identification and Registration (player must submit statement under oath, registration form with a bank stamp, ID copy
R20, 000 set is too low, and will result in a non competitive market with other off shore operators who do not have limits. Ultimately the intention of player protection will be lost as players will opt to play with off shore operators.
Requiring the lodging of oath or affirmation as well as certified ID, form stamped by bank will discourage consumers from using regulated SA operators. Player’s nominated account is already FICA compliant, that should be enough
Propose that instead of restricting player limit on player account, a loss limit be set. This will address constant transfer of funds from player account to nominated account and reduce banking fees.
Obligation should be on operator and player to ensure that player submits correct documentation and operator verifies with the bank the account, identity, name prior to registration. This will require stringent monitoring from the regulator and failure to comply by the operator will result to suspension or revocation of the license, and or criminal prosecution.
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Comments
Organisation/s Regulations Comment the dti’s Response
Response by thePortfolioCommittee
Action
Sun International, Whiteman
Sun International, Tsogo Sun, Whitesman, Wagerworks
Regulation 17 Advertising ( Interactive provider must be licensed to advertise and NGB must make determination upon a complaint on whether an advert contravenes the regulations)
Regulation 18: Standards for the design, use and maintenance of websites (Must avail automatic reality check at hourly intervals)
17 (6)(7)&(8) Should require adverts to be submitted to the board before as opposed to reacting afterwards. The issue will be best dealt with by ASA not NGB.
Reality checks have been regarded as a nuisance with little effect on the behaviour of the problem gambler.
Submitting adverts before may not make good business sense. However, there should be set standards that all adverts must adhere to.NGB is best placed to deal with the matter.
These encourage responsible gambling and give the player an opportunity to assess decision to continue play or not.
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Comments
Organisation/s Regulations Comment the dti’s Response
Response by thePortfolioCommittee
Action
Mpumalanga Gambling Board, Bwin, Lury Inc and Sun International
Regulation 22 Amendments to approved internal control procedures
Regulation 26:maximum number of licenses (maximum number is 10)
22(2): Must state a specified time frame as opposed to ‘a reasonable time’
26 (1) the 10 licenses are too small for healthy competition, and should permit land based casinos to provide with their current licenses as they contributed to the socio economic infrastructure and employment creation.
The regulation will be amended to qualify the clauses that refer to immediately. Specific timelines will be attached to provide certainty
Only 10 licenses to prevent the over stimulation, demand and proliferation. We believe 10 is a reasonable number, which can be assessed from time by Minister.
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Comments
Organisation/s Regulations Comment the dti’s Response
Response by thePortfolioCommittee
Action
All stakeholders and Parliament
Regulation 37:duration and renewal of a license
Period of the license is too short for the anticipated investment and does not make sound business for potential investors.
The period of license will apply to temporary licences as the Act provides that temporary licenses should be issued with the intention of issuing the licence permanently upon of fulfilment of certain conditions. However, a permanent license will have a duration as it is still not intended to be an indefinite.
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Comments
Organisation/s Regulations Comment the dti’s Response
Response by thePortfolioCommittee
Action
Sun International, Bwin, Tsogo Sun, Peermont
Regulation:53(1) (f): Employee registration (Provincial board empowered to determine a job position or individual to be a key employee position)
How could a provincial board determine that a position of a National Board licensee is a key position? The National Gambling Board should make such a determination as they are the ones who issue an operator’s license.
The regulation promotes co-operative governance to ensure effective monitoring and enforcement across the Republic.
Thus, section 39A (2) empowers the Provincial licensing authority to issue an interactive gambling employment licence to an employee or a member of management.
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Thank you