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Page 1: Is there time in the Quantum World? there time in the QW.pdf · Story of the „before-before“ Experiment (2001) Wolfgang Tittel, Hugo Zbinden, Nicolas Gisin, Valerio Scarani, Antoine

Is there time Is there time in the Quantum World?in the Quantum World?

Presentation: Lorenzo De Presentation: Lorenzo De VittoriVittoriDirection: Antoine SuarezDirection: Antoine Suarez

Center for Quantum PhilosophyCenter for Quantum Philosophywww.quantumphil.orgwww.quantumphil.org

Copyright © Center for Quantum Philosophy

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Story of the „before-before“Experiment (2001)

Story of the „before-before“Experiment (2001)

Wolfgang Tittel, Hugo Zbinden, Nicolas Gisin, Valerio Scarani, Antoine Suarez, André StefanovWolfgang Tittel, Hugo Zbinden, Nicolas Gisin,

Valerio Scarani, Antoine Suarez, André Stefanov

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(a)

(d)

I. Newton (1643-1727): Light is made of particles

50%

BS D(+)

D(−)

50%

T

R

L50%

?%

?%

BS1

BS2D(+)

D(−)

50%

RT

L

100%L

D

L BS

D(+)

D(−)

RT

(b)

(c) 50%

50%

L: Light source; BS: Beam-splitter; D(+) und D(−): Detektoren

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Newton’s particle model cannot explain the interference phenomena

50%LBS1

BS2D(+)

D(−)

50%

RT

50 %

50 %

Prediction accordingto Newton‘s model

BS1

BS2D(+)

D(−)

50%

RT

L

100 %

0 %

Experiment

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Ch. Huygens (1629-1695), T. Young (1773 – 1829)und A. Fresnel (1788-1827) develop the wave model, which explains very well interference

L

50%

50%

BS D(+)

D(−)

T

RThe light wave shifts ¼ wavelength (90°or π/2 ) by reflection in the beam-splitter

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InterferenceWith two paths of equal length

The wave through the transmitted path T and the wave through the reflected path R reach D(+) with the same phase and produce a counting rate of 100% (constructive Interference).

The wave through T and the wave through R reach D(−) with phase shift of 1/2 wavelength (180°) and produce a counting rate of 0% (destructive Interference).

BS1

BS2D(+)

D(−)

L

0%

100%

T

R

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Interference The counting rate depends on the path-length-difference

Mobile mirrorBS1

BS2 D(+)

D(−)

Screw

L

20%

80%

T

R

0%

100%

Φ

0%

100%

Φ

Phase shift in D(−): θ = ω lc− π

2− s

c− π

2= Φ− π

Counting rate in D(−): ( )Φ=)( cos121Pr −−

Phase shift in D(+):

Counting rate D(+):

( )Φ+=(+) cos121Pr

Φ=csωππ+

clω=θ −−

22

l : Length of the long path s : Length of the short pathν : Frequency of the laserω : Angular frequency = 2πνc : Velocity of light

Φ= ω l− sc

Φ: Phase shift because of the length difference

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Ether?

In which Medium propagate light waves? Ether-Hypotheses.

Michelson-Morley Experiment disposes of the ether hypotheses

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Photoelectric effectLight behaves according to the particle model

T

R

Prediction according to the wave model:

when the intensity of the light grows down, D(+) and D(-) should click weaker but together.

eitherD(+)clicks

D(+)

D(−)

BS2 T

R

D(+)BS2 T

R

D(−)

Experiment

orD(-)

clicks

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Platform 9 ¾ to the Quantum WorldPhotoelectric Experiments:The detections show that light is made of particles (photons).

Interference Experiments:Distribution of light intensity between D(+) and D(-) according to the wave mathematics.

BS1

BS2 D(+)

D(−)

L

20%

80%

T

R

0%

100%

Φ

0%

100%

Φ

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Copenhagen (Bohr, Heisenberg, Born, Jordan):

„Agreement“ between Detectors+

Statistical distributionaccording to quantum mathematics

(i.e. mathematics of waves)

D(+)

T

R

D(−)?

BS2

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Consequences ofCopenhagen‘s explanation

1. Which detector clicks, is decided by a free choice when the wave reaches the detectors.

Dirac: “the choice on the part of nature”Bohr, Heisenberg: “the choice on the part of the observer”Zeilinger:”the two freedoms” (“die zwei Freiheiten”)

1. Exchange of information faster than light between D(+) and D(−).

2. Uncertainty principle (Heisenberg).

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“The two freedoms” (“Die zwei Freiheiten”)Anton ZeilingerDie Weltwoche, 48/2005

BS1

BS2 D(+)

D(−)

L

20%

80%

T

R

0%

100%

Φ

0%

100%

Φ

The freedom on the partof the pysicist

The freedom on the partof nature

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QuanteninformationCopenhagen expressions like:“Collapse of the wavefunction”

actually mean:Agreement

orExchange of Information

or free choice

between the detectors

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Avoiding expressions like “collapse”and using expressions

like “agreement”, “exchange of information”,“choice”, “freedom”

may help you to understand quantum mechanics with wondering and delight, and you don’t need to be “profoundly shocked”.

"If quantum mechanics hasn't profoundly shocked you, you haven't understood it yet." (Bohr)

By the way:

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Consequences ofCopenhagen‘s explanation

1. Which detector clicks, is decided by a free choice when the wave reaches the detectors.

Dirac: “the choice on the part of nature”Bohr, Heisenberg: “the choice on the part of the observer”Zeilinger:”the two freedoms” (“die zwei Freiheiten”)

1. Exchange of information faster than light between D(+) and D(−).

2. Uncertainty principle (Heisenberg).

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The Solvay Congress: Brussels 23-27.10.1927

[first row] (1) I. Langmuir, (2) M. Planck, (3) M. Curie, (4) H.A. Lorentz, (5) A. Einstein, (6) P. Langevin, (7) C.E. Guye, (8) C.T.R. Wilson, (9) O.W. Richardson

[second row] (1) P. Debye, (2) M. Knudsen, (3) W.L. Bragg, (4) H.A. Kramers, (5) P.A.M. Dirac, (6) A.H. Compton, (7) L.V. de Broglie, (8) M. Born, (9) N. Bohr

[third row] (1) A. Piccard, (2) E. Henriot, (3) P. Ehrenfest, (4) E. Herzen, (5) Th. de Donder, (6) E. Schroedinger, (7) E. Verschaffelt, (8) W. Pauli, (9) W. Heisenberg, (10) R.H. Fowler, (11) L. Brillouin.

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“God does not play dice!”(Einstein)

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The Michelson-Morley Experiment is an interference experiment and, therefore, actually a quantum experiment

By the way:

There cannot be a contradiction between the consequences of this experiment and Quantum Mechanics.

If Einstein felt a contradiction, it is because he did extend the validity of relativity beyond the limit the experimental data permitted to.

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De Broglie tries to explain things without communication faster than light,

and calms the spirits… though not Einstein

D(+)T

R

D(−)

?

D(+)T

R

D(−)

?(a) Copenhagen:

„Collapse of the wavefunction“(Exchange of information)

(b) de Broglie:„Empty wave“ or „pilot wave“

BS2 BS2

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Trajectory?Copenhagen vs De Broglie-Bohm

BS D(+)

D(−)

TR

LBS

D(−)

T

R

L D(+)

(a) Copenhagen:The concept of trajectory doesn‘t make sense.The “particle” does not follow any path. Nature takes account of both

paths to calculate the counting rates

(b) de Broglie-Bohm:The particle always follows

a well defined trajectory.

?

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Confusing Expressions “Delayed choice”:“If one watches the particle, it takes only one path. If one doesn’t watch it, it take two paths” (Wheeler)

“If one looks at the holes, […] then one can say that it [the electron] goes through hole 1 or 2. But, when one does not try to tell which way the electron goes, […] then one may not say that an electron goes either through hole 1 or hole 2”(Feymann)

Such expressions help Feymann‘s claim to prevail:„I think I can safely say that nobody understands quantum mechanics.“

Richard P. FeynmanThe character of physical law;

MIT Press : Massachusetts, 1967

By the way:

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),Pr(),Pr(),Pr(),Pr(

+−=−+−−=++

:counts ecoincidenc

possiblefourtheof iesProbabilit

%50)Pr(

)Pr(

=−−−

=+++

:clicks )](D[bzw )(D thaty Probabilit

50% :clicks )](D[bzw )(D thaty Probabilit

21

21

10 km

The EPR(1935)-Bohm(1952) Argument

0%

100%

),Pr(),Pr( +−+−+

Φ0%

100%

),Pr(),Pr( −−+++

Φ

)cos1(21

),Pr(),Pr()eConcordancPr(

Φ+=

−−+++=

)cos1(21

),Pr(),Pr()eDiscordancPr(

Φ−=

+−+−+=

D1 (−)

D1(+)

BS11 BS20BS10 BS21

D2(+)

D2(−)

12 km Glassfiber

Sourcel1

s1

l2

s2

Interferometer 2Interferometer 1Mobile mirror

Mobile mirror

Φ: Total phase-shift because path-length-difference

cslω

cslω 22

211

1−

+−

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In 2-particle experimentsde Broglie-Bohm‘s model implies that

one choice (say at BS11)influences the other (at BS21)

faster than light.

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According to Bohm‘s model there is a time ordering behind the quantum correlations

Since the glass-fibers from the source to each interferometer cannot be cut exactly equal long (1mm error), one of the particles, say photon 1, hits its beam-splitter BS11 before photon 2 hits BS21. One assumes that photon 1 makes its choice between output + and out put – at will (before photon 2 chooses), and photon 2 chooses after that, taking account of photon 1‘s choice.

By contrast standard quantum formalism is silent about time!

D1 (−)

D1(+)

BS11BS10

Sourcel1

s1

Mobile mirror

Screw

BS20 BS21

D2(+)

D2(−)

l2

s2

Mobile mirror

Screw

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Einstein: Quantum mechanics is not complete

D1 (−)

D1(+)

BS11 BS20BS10 BS21

D2(+)

D2(−)

Sourcel1

s1

l2

s2

Mobile mirror

ScrewMobile mirror

Screw

Einstein concluded: “Telepathy”. Quantum mechanics “cannot be considered complete”. The particles carry hidden programs, which produce the correlations.

The quantum choice implies exchange of information faster than light, no matter of one uses Copenhagen‘s or De Broglie‘s model.

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Is Einstein right, then in a 2-particles experiment with lengths a1, b1 and c2, d2, the particle pairs the source emits are distributedamong 16 different classes, according to thedetector clicking in a run with the indicated pathlength.

Each class contributes with a number ni of pairsto the total number of pairs N.

a1 b1

+ +

+ +

+ +

+ +

+ −

+ −

− +

− +

− +

− +

− −

− −

− −

− −

+ −

+ −

c2 d2

+ +

+ −

− +

− −

+ +

− −

+ +

+ −

− +

− −

+ +

+ −

− +

− −

+ −

− +

N

n1

n2

n3

n4

n5

n6

n7

n8

n9

n10

n11

n12

n13

n14

n15

n16

John Bell‘s inequality (1964)

D1(+)

BS11 BS20BS10 BS21

D2(+)

D2(−)

Sourcel1

s1

l2

s2

Mobile mirror

Screw

d2 , c2 = l2l1 = a1, b1

D1 (−)

Mobile mirror

Screw

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John Bell‘s inequality

a1 b1

+ +

+ +

+ +

+ +

+ −

+ −

− +

− +

− +

− +

− −

− −

− −

− −

+ −

+ −

c2 d2

+ +

+ −

− +

− −

+ +

− −

+ +

+ −

− +

− −

+ +

+ −

− +

− −

+ −

− +

N

n1

n2

n3

n4

n5

n6

n7

n8

n9

n10

n11

n12

n13

n14

n15

n16

Suppose an experiment with lengths a1 and c2 would produce perfect correlations. This would mean that:

n3 = n4= n7 = n8 = n9 = n10 = n13 = n14=0

D1(+)

BS11 BS20BS10 BS21

D2(+)

D2(−)

Sourcel1

s1

l2

s2

Mobile mirror

Screw

d2 , c2 = l2l1 = a1, b1

D1 (−)

Mobile mirror

Screw

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We measure:

• N Pairs with a1 and c2

• N Pairs with a1 and d2

• N Pairs with b1 and c2

• N Pairs with b1 and d2

Notice: On a single pair of particles it is possible to perform only one of these 4 measures.

John Bell‘s inequality

a1 b1

+ +

+ +

+ +

+ +

+ −

+ −

− +

− +

− +

− +

− −

− −

− −

− −

+ −

+ −

c2 d2

+ +

+ −

− +

− −

+ +

− −

+ +

+ −

− +

− −

+ +

+ −

− +

− −

+ −

− +

N

n1

n2

n3

n4

n5

n6

n7

n8

n9

n10

n11

n12

n13

n14

n15

n16

D1(+)

BS11 BS20BS10 BS21

D2(+)

D2(−)

Sourcel1

s1

l2

s2

Mobile mirror

Screw

d2 , c2 = l2l1 = a1, b1

D1 (−)

Mobile mirror

Screw

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John Bell‘s inequality

a1 b1

+ +

+ +

+ +

+ +

+ −

+ −

− +

− +

− +

− +

− −

− −

− −

− −

+ −

+ −

c2 d2

+ +

+ −

− +

− −

+ +

− −

+ +

+ −

− +

− −

+ +

+ −

− +

− −

+ −

− +

N

n1

n2

n3

n4

n5

n6

n7

n8

n9

n10

n11

n12

n13

n14

n15

n16

−=−=−=−=+=+=+=+=−=−=−=−=

+=+=+=+=

22

22

11

11

d resp. c if resp. ,d resp. c if resp. ,b resp. ,a if resp. ,b resp. ,a if resp. ,

:define We

,,11,,11

,11,11

22

22

11

11

dcdcbaba

21212121 dbcbdac aSi ⋅−⋅+⋅+⋅=

Where the 4 terms of Si result from measurements on 4 different particle pairs, since on a single particle pair one can perform only one of the 4 corresponding measurements.

or either :that holds It 2,2 −=+= ii SS

For each of the 16 clases of pairs we define the value:

D1(+)

BS11 BS20BS10 BS21

D2(+)

D2(−)

Sourcel1

s1

l2

s2

Mobile mirror

Screw

d2 , c2 = l2l1 = a1, b1

D1 (−)

Mobile mirror

Screw

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John Bell‘sCHSH

inequalityN

n1

n2

n3

n4

n5

n6

n7

n8

n9

n10

n11

n12

n13

n14

n15

n16

∑=

==

16

1

1 i

iiiSn

NS

We consider the average:

22 +≤≤− S

Suppose all particle pairs would belong to the same class. Then:

or either 2,2 −=+= ii SS

Therefore, for the 16 different classes one is led to theBell‘s inequality:

2

16

112

16

112

16

112

16

11

1111 dbnN

cbnN

danN

canN

Si

ii

i

ii

i

ii

i

ii ⋅⋅−⋅⋅+⋅⋅+⋅⋅= ∑∑∑∑

=

=

=

=

=

=

=

=

a1 b1

+ +

+ +

+ +

+ +

+ −

+ −

− +

− +

− +

− +

− −

− −

− −

− −

+ −

+ −

c2 d2

+ +

+ −

− +

− −

+ +

− −

+ +

+ −

− +

− −

+ +

+ −

− +

− −

+ −

− +

Also called CHSH (Clauser, Horne, Shimony, Holt) inequality:

D1(+)

BS11 BS20BS10 BS21

D2(+)

D2(−)

Sourcel1

s1

l2

s2

Mobile mirror

Screw

d2 , c2 = l2l1 = a1, b1

D1 (−)

Mobile mirror

Screw

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The prediction of quantum mechanics for the value S

Gemäss Quantentheorie:

2

16

112

16

112

16

112

16

11

1111 dbnN

cbnN

danN

canN

Si

ii

i

ii

i

ii

i

ii ⋅⋅−⋅⋅+⋅⋅+⋅⋅= ∑∑∑∑

=

=

=

=

=

=

=

=

21 c und a mit Messungen den bei z) (DiskordanPrz)(KonkordanPr −=

21 d und a mit Messungen den bei z) (DiskordanPrz)(KonkordanPr −+

21 c und b mit Messungen den bei z) (DiskordanPrz)(KonkordanPr −+

21 d und b mit Messungen den bei z)(Diskordanz)(Konkordan PrPr −−

)d(b c(b daca )( )( 21212121 cos)coscoscos ,,,,S ΦΦΦΦ= −++

cω 2211

21scsa)c,(a −

+−

=Φ 21

cω 2211

21sdsa)d,(a −

+−

=Φ 21

cω 2211

21scsb)c,(b −

+−

=Φ 21

cω 2211

21sdsb)d,(b −

+−

=Φ 21

D1(+)

BS11 BS20BS10 BS21

D2(+)

D2(−)

Sourcel1

s1

l2

s2

Mobile mirror

Screw

d2 , c2 = l2l1 = a1, b1

D1 (−)

Mobile mirror

Screw

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Quantum mechanicscontradictsEinstein

For this path lengths quantum mechanicspredicts:

2222

22

22

22

cos)coscoscos

2121

2121

=+++=

ΦΦΦΦ=

−+

+

)d(b c(b daca )( )(

,,,,S

40

421ππ

−=+−=−

+−

=Φc

ωc

ω 221121

scsa)c,(a

42421πππ

=+−=−

+−

=Φc

ωc

ω 221121

sdsa)d,(a

40

421ππ

=+=−

+−

=Φc

ωc

ω 221121

scsb)c,(b

43

2421πππ

=+=−

+−

=Φc

ωc

ω 221121

sdsb)d,(b

We choose path lengths so that it holds:

Since the experimental correlation degree deviates from the maximal theoretical value, we introduce a Visibility-coefficient Vis :

22cos)coscoscos 21212121 ⋅=ΦΦΦΦ= −++ isisisisis V,V,V,V,VS )d(b c(b daca )( )(

71.02

1≈>isV For One is led to a violation of the Bell‘s inequality,

i.e. a contradiction between Einstein‘s explanation and Quantum Theory.

D1(+)

BS11 BS20BS10 BS21

D2(+)

D2(−)

Sourcel1

s1

l2

s2

Mobile mirror

Screw

d2 , c2 = l2l1 = a1, b1

D1 (−)

Mobile mirror

Screw

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Measuring Visibility Vis one cantest the Bell‘s inequality

Φ

1.5μm

Rmax

( )

( )is

is

V

V

−=++

+=++

141),(Pr

141),(Pr

min

max

),(Pr),(Pr),(Pr),(Pr

minmax

minmax

+++++++−++

=isV

⇒> 71.0isV Violation of Bell‘s inequality

Step of0.15μm

D1(+)

BS11 BS20BS10 BS21

D2(+)

D2(−)

Sourcel1

s1

l2

s2

Mobile mirror

Screw

d2 , c2 = l2l1 = a1, b1

D1 (−)

Mobile mirror

Screw

R: Number of coincident counts in the two detectors per 10 seconds

Rmin

minmax

minmax

RRRRVis +

−=

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10.6 km

One of the Bell‘s Experimentsvon H. Zbinden, J. Brendel, W.Tittel, und N. Gisin (2000)

D1(+)

BS11Beam-splitter BS11 plays also the role of BS10

BS21D2(+)

Mobile Mirror

MirrorlCirculator Circulator

Photon 1 gets detected after 2nd transmission at BS11

Source

l1

l2

s1 s2

Photon 1 goes lost after transmision at BS11 and reflection at BS11

12 km Glass fiber

T1 T2

Photon 2 gets detected after 2nd transmission at BS21

Photon 2 goes lost after transmision at BS21 and reflection at BS21

Beam-splitter BS21 plays also the role of BS20

c>Velocity 610

MirrorMirrorR1 R2

R: Number of coincident counts in the two detectors per 10 seconds

30

320

1.5μmRmin

Rmax

Steps of0.15μm

⇒ Violation of the Bell inequality!!

%%

RRRRVis

71833032030320

minmax

minmax

>≈+−

=

+−

=

ΦOne choice “influences”the other at:

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Einstein is wrong!

The particles do not carry hidden programs.

In Nature there are influences going faster than light, though we cannot use this feature for phoning or teleporting faster than light.

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According to Bohm‘s model there is a time ordering behind the quantum correlations

Since the glass-fibers from the source to each interferometer cannot be cut exactly equal long (1mm error), one of the particles, say photon 1, hits its beam-splitter BS11 before photon 2 hits BS21. One assumes that photon 1 makes its choice between output + and out put – at will (before photon 2 chooses), and photon 2 chooses after that, taking account of photon 1‘s choice.

By contrast standard quantum formalism is silent about time!

D1 (−)

D1(+)

BS11BS10

Sourcel1

s1

Mobile mirror

Screw

BS20 BS21

D2(+)

D2(−)

l2

s2

Mobile mirror

Screw

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Is there time in the quantum world?

Does the choice happening before in time influence the choice happening later in time?

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Which clock matters for measuring the time of the photon’s arrival at the

beam-splitter?

We assume the clock associated to the inertial frame of the corresponding beam-splitter

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The principle of multisimultaneityBS11

BS21

Relativiy of time

V

R1

Before-beforesituation

BS11

Photon 1 afterreflection in T1

T1Photon 1 afterreflection in R1

Photon 1 Photon 2

BS21

Photon 2 afterreflection in T2

T2

R2

Photon 1 afterreflection in R2

V

Time of arrival of Photon 1 at BS11 (after reflection at T1 or R1) measured with the clock of BS21

Time of arrival of Photon 2 at BS21 (after Reflection at T2 or R2 ) measured with the clock of BS21

Time of arrival of Photon 1 at BS11 (afterreflection at T1 or R1) measured with theLabor clock, the clock of BS11

Time of arrival of Photon 2 at BS21 (after reflection at T2 or R2) measuredwith the Labor clock, the clock of BS11

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The condition forthe before-before experiment

V

LcVtt 2<+=Δ δτ

L

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In the before-before situation the correlations should disappear

R1

Before-beforesituation

BS11

Photon 1 afterreflection in T1

T1Photon 1 afterreflection in R1

Photon 1 Photon 2

BS21

Photon 2 afterreflection in T2

T2

R2

Photon 1 afterreflection in R2

V

Time of arrival of Photon 1 at BS11 (after reflection at T1 or R1) measured with the clock of BS21

Time of arrival of Photon 2 at BS21 (after Reflection at T2 or R2 ) measured with the clock of BS21

Time of arrival of Photon 1 at BS11 (afterreflection at T1 or R1) measured with theLabor clock, the clock of BS11

Time of arrival of Photon 2 at BS21 (after reflection at T2 or R2) measuredwith the Labor clock, the clock of BS11

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Before-before SituationWith two beam-splitters in movement it is possible to balance

the Doppler shift Ω of the light frequency

Time of arrival of photon 2 at BS21 (after reflection at T2 orR2) measured with the clockof BS11

BS21

Photon 1 or„empty wave“ 1after the firsttrasmision throughBS11: No Doppler shift

Time of arrival of Photon 1 at BS11 (after reflection at T1 orR1) measured with the clockof BS11

R1

Doppler shift of Photon 1‘s or of the„empty wave“ 1‘s frequency after thefirst refelction at BS11= +Ω T2R2

Photon 1 Photon 2

Time of arrival of Photon 2 at BS21 (after Reflection at T2 or R2 ) measured with the clock of BS21

Time of arrival of Photon 1 at BS11 (after reflection at T1 or R1) measured with the clock of BS21

BS11Detektor

Doppler shift of Photon 1‘s or„empty wave“ 1‘safter the second reflection at BS11 = +2 Ω

Doppler shift of Photon 2‘s or„empty wave“ 2‘s frequency after thefirst reflecetion at BS21 = −Ω

Doppler shift of Photon 2‘s or„empty wave“ 2after the second reflection at BS21 = −2 Ω

Source

circulatorV V

T1

circulator

Photon 2 or„empty wave“ 2after the firsttrasmision throughBS21: No Doppler shift

Time of arrival of Photon 2 at BS21 (after reflectionat T2 or R2) measuredwith the Labor clock

Time of arrival of Photon 1 at BS11 (after reflection at T1 orR1) measured with the Laborclock

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Sound wave acting as beam-splitterAcusto-optic Modulator (AOM)

Velocity of sound=2500 m/s

The reflected photons exhibit a Doppler frecuency shift equalto the frequency Ω of thesound wave:

ωr= ωi +Ω

Frequency of thetransmitted photons

ωt= ωi

ωi: Frequency of the ingoing Photons

Ω: Frequency of the sound wave(100 MHz)

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The Before-Before ExperimentA. Stefanov, H. Zbinden, N.Gisin and A. Suarez (2001)

s Sound wavein AOM1

Photon goes to detector after 2nd crossing of AOM1

BS11

s1

l1

d =55 m Interferometer 2

Mobile Mirror

Sound wavein AOM2

s2

l2

BS21

Mirror

Zirkulator

DetectorDetector

Zirkulator

Interferometer 1

Mirror

Mirror

s

0 0.5 1 1.5 2 2.5 3100150200250300350400450

100 m Glass fiber

Photon goes lost after 2nd crossingof AOM1

Laser 657 nm

Source

A laser-photon of 657 nm produces two photons of 1314 nm

Filter

Photon goes to detector after 2nd ceossing of AOM2

Photon goes lost after 2nd crossingof AOM1

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The Before-BeforeExperiment

s Sound wavein AOM1

Photon goes to detector after 2nd crossing of AOM1

BS11

s1

l1

Interferometer 2

Mobile Mirror

Sound wavein AOM2

s2

l2

BS21

Mirror

Zirkulator

DetectorDetector

Zirkulator

Interferometer 1

Mirror

Mirror

s

0 0.5 1 1.5 2 2.5 3100150200250300350400450

100 m Glass fiber

Photon goes lost after 2nd crossingof AOM1

Photon goes to detector after 2nd ceossing of AOM2

Photon goes lost after 2nd crossingof AOM1

( )c

slc

slt

R

222

111

)cos1(21

−+

−+Ω−Ω=Φ

Φ+=

ωω21

R

Φ

Ω1Ω2

Source

GHzΔν

MHzΔν

ph3102

10

⋅≈

ps53.1max =Δt

We have to equalize the optical pathlenght from the source to the pointsthe photons leave the AOM with an error smaller than 0.46mm.

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Results

0 0.5 1 1.5 2 2.5 3

100

150

200

250

300

350

400

450

Noise level

V=97%+-5%

Coi

ncid

ence

s [/1

0 s]

Phase [μm]

Prediction of thequantum theory

Prediction of themultisimultaneity

The quantum correlations show that there is a dependence between events happening in two separated regions, but this dependence does not correspond to any real time ordering.

With before-before timing the correlations don‘t disappear !

experimental value

Φ

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There is no real time ordering behind the quantum correlations,one event cannot be considered

the cause of the other.

Notice however that nothing speaks against maintaining the concept of trajectory.

There is no real time in the quantum world

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Either free-will is an illusion, or

the quantum phenomena involve information processing outside of space-time and

without material support

Correlated events in spacelike separated regions+ Assumption of the physicist's free will+ Violation of Bell inequalities+ No signaling⇒ The events have a common cause

outside the spacetime

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Quantum memory without material carrierMobile mirror

BS1

D(+)

D(−)

Screw

L

20%

80%

T

R

0%

100%

Φ

0%

100%

Φ

Counting rate in D(−):

Counting rate D(+):

( )Φ+=(+) cos121Pr

l : Length of the long path s : Length of the short pathν : Frequency of the laserω : Angular frequency = 2πνc : Velocity of light

Φ= ω l− sc

Φ: Phase shift because of the length difference

BS2

( )Φ=(+) cos121Pr −

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„Das alles ist ziemlich verrückt. Die spukhafte Fernwirkung – das ist ein Vorgang jenseits von Raum und Zeit, das kann auch ich mir nicht richtig vorstellen.“Anton Zeilinger, Die Weltwoche Nr. 48/2005

„Each single event is an individual act of creation“Anton Zeilinger

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“Correlations cry out for explanation”(John Bell)

If quantum physics is true, we have to accept that there is no observable temporal cause of the correlations.

So what?

• There is no agency at all behind the quantum single events: „I am no-thing“.

• Many-worlds interpretation: There is no real choice and no freedom. „All is in advance decided, I don‘t decide anything“, „I am no-body“.

• „I am someone“, but then there is also “someone”behind the quantum phenomena

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The free will theorem in Quantum Physics

If human beings make free choices, then freechoices happen in the Quantum World too.

In quantum physics, laws of freedom may be introduced into the causality of the course of nature

“if indeed there exist any experimenters with a modicum of free will, then elementary particles must have their own share of this valuable commodity.”

John Conway and Simon Kochenquant-ph/0604079

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In quantum phenomena randomness appears inseparably united to creation of information,

randomness and guidance have the same origin, the same cause.

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God plays dice!

Is randomness one of the important things

God created in the beginning?

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