j. dave myers, pe, ls 2017 ispls convention...brief resume 1975 bs civil engineering – rose-hulman...
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J. Dave Myers, PE, LS 2017 ISPLS Convention
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Class Summary Thursday January 19, 2017
Design/Construction Professional Surveyors Role in Design and Construction
TIME ROOM PDH 9:00-9:50 AM IN Ballroom D-E 1
Review Indiana Administrative Code 865 and other
pertinent rules as it pertains to the role of the Professional Surveyor in Design and Construction tasks.
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Brief Resume 1975 BS Civil Engineering – Rose-Hulman
1975-1990 INDOT: AE Crawfordsville Const. Dept.
1990-2017 President, Myers Engineering, Inc.
PE and LS in Indiana and Illinois
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Course Focus
Surveyor’s Role in:
Design
Construction
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Design Focus Route Survey IAC 865: 865 IAC 1-12-20 Route survey preliminary research Sec. 20. (a) When conducting a route survey, a registered land surveyor shall do the following: (1) Obtain or prepare the documents establishing the intended position of the lines to be created by the survey, for example, the following: (A) The client's approved sketch. (B) Instructions defining the lines. (2) Obtain the following: (A) Copies of the laws that affect route surveys in the area in which the property is located. (B) From: (i) the client, or other sources, the record description of the affected parcel or parcels; (ii) the county recorder's office, copies of any recorded subdivision plats and surveys affected by or relating to the survey; and (iii) other public offices, copies of any maps, documents, and field notes that relate to the survey. (b) Client specifications may set forth technical minimums for route surveys more stringent than those stated in this section.
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Land Ownership in Antiquity Corner marking is several thousand years old:
Do not move an ancient boundary stone set up by your
ancestors – Proverbs 22-28 (NIV)
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1774 – Philadelphia
The First Continental Congress in Philadelphia States agreed that citizens are Entitled to:
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Right to Property
The right is foundational to economic security for _______________________
_______________________
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Contrast – Present Day Chad AFR
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The Public Works Creed:
Repeat after me:
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The Public Works Creed:
Do not harm the Public
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The Public Works Creed:
Do not harm the Public
Stupid Rubs Off
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My Early INDOT Field Experiences
R/W Plans vs Landowners’ Testimony
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INDOT History snippets
Prior to 1970 – Mostly purchased as R/W only
Many Purchases in the 1920’s – 1930’s weren’t recorded until the 1950’s
Why is this a Problem?
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Importance of Proper Research
Case Study #1:
The “Johnsons”
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“Johnsons” – 1960’s
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“Johnsons” – 1960’s
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“Johnsons” – 2003 Survey
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“Johnsons” – 2003 Survey
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“Johnsons” - Encroachment
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“Johnsons” - Encroachment
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Importance of Proper Research
Case Study #2:
Roadway Widening - Illinois
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Prior to Project
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During Project
There were double section corners on the range line
Later tie sheets were reversed by scrivener’s error
$100,000’s of R/W purchased to the wrong line….
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After the Project
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After the Project Hubris - excessive pride or self-confidence.
Synonyms: arrogance, conceit, haughtiness, pride, self-importance, egotism, pomposity,
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After the Project Hubris - excessive pride or self-confidence.
Synonyms: arrogance, conceit, haughtiness, pride, self-importance, egotism, pomposity,
These surveyors bragged how “they were the only ones to get it right”
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Construction Phase
Screeds
Datums
R/W Snafu
Multiple Centerlines
Examples:
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EBL I-70 Bridge, Vigo County Screed Elevations Plot Showing Dips @ Supports
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CONSTRUCTION Datums
Friend had a project where:
HARN Datum did not Match Original Project
Vertical bust of 3 feet +/-
Project was built off by 3 feet
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R/W Snafu
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I-70 – Illinois West of Indiana Built in 1960’s
2002 Rebuilt from subgrade up, in one year!
Designers located R/W markers and C/L Monuments
Found 11 foot bust in C/L Monuments!
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I-70 – Illinois West of Indiana
Decision was made to “Fix” the C/L and R/W
Anyone see a Problem?
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I-70 – Illinois West of Indiana
Decision was made to “Fix” the CL and R/W
Anyone see a Problem?
Chief Justice Thomas Cooley, Michigan, 1864: … the original monuments control… (paraphrase)
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Multiple Centerlines – Bridges
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C/L Abutment vs C/L Bearing
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General Layout
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Cap Plan
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Another Cap Plan
See anything wrong?
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US 36 at Whitelick Creek
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Good Old Days
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Conclusion
Thanks!