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1- On 12 July 1947, n c�11 war: Y-1: do &#39;=t tlzr, newsnener Office of{he "Idr ho Lsilv SIT�!-<=="-&#39;1n" �oi�, li�ho �"h~" of

pnper , r.-as lnterviewccl in regard to how well heknew _ of Ioise, Tdnluo, and as to the credibility ofany ."bF�li�_&#39;!"» �l&#39;1t movie �1_"� The Ourpose 0!" this interview I55 anattev--at to verify Str92t1&#39;r:0ntS node l>y�0n 26 June 1947,to vrricms notional news services to the ef&#39;|"ect. that he,�had s"et1 9 objects f"l}rin_g in the nir above the "ascede Hountain Rangeof We -.11in;&#39;_ton. 1&#39;hc so objects were subsequently referred to as flying 4saucers or flying disks and will here-in�af5er be referred to as such

in this report. �$+.sted th�t he had I-:no1-in rm-quite n period of ti--we, hm/in{&#39; had r &#39;1ntin&#39;n&#39;: with on variousoccnsinrs, due to the fact that both he and

were or�vste Fliers and frequently got together to talk shop-stetnd that as fer rr. he was r�-on:-horned anyt�1inr_ said could be - .tr&#39;.1"&#39;*n &#39;¢."~ry seriously nnd that 11&#39;! scizuall believed that Hr.Arnold hvd seem the rforerertloned llring dlsks. stated that

after _.-@;~.=r+.¢d Eevini seen the flying: dfsks, that the editorof� �-".3" pr�-_*92<2r Md Hs5&#39;="r.ed P-in, the assignment of taking thenirjslr-w �oelon,",ir1{; tr� the nz-::s;-:1; ;r aw: 93-h:=u$tinf_ P11 efforts to prove "or disjrove th� probrbilitf of flying disks hevinr been seen in the!:o1�t92�w.--:»r1I". area. The results of� 1.11s rssi,"_n"�.e:&#39;:t to _and whathe sn�»s¢quen&#39;1&#39;.l}.&#39; sm" �s put forth "1 a sworn statement signed �tnttr 0.�.-�r! to this report as &#39;lxhibit 5.

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-�mf: logged P300 hours of 1"1§.&#39;inI"_ tinr in various types of airplanesuv to P" I including; �-u1ti�e vii!--2 rYrcr"Ft. &#39;mrir1;i hart of the war years, & rheoning assigned to 6the z&#39;E*1&#39;;i0th USA!�-.}:" and st"-tinned on rinian Isl�-.nc1, in the Pacific. It � &#39;" �

t�1== = =rs-an-"ll 0-i aetuslly� seww!;r+. he stntes that he sn? in t&#39;r1~:> nttnr-hed 1¬�nc~rt- It is also the Opinion

of� tiw interviewer ill�!-"t �Would hove *1-.v:h were to lose than gainem� 92.&#39;-"�u&#39;l &#39;.&#39;- hm-".� to be very str0T�."_1j convirlce-&#39;92 thnt he actually saw somethinghr2f&#39;or" 1" &#39;-ould r".:92r&#39;921&#39;i. s&#39;H".l| rm invidezwt mm! open himself for the ridiculetimt &#39;0uId ncr*.or|p�nj.&#39; such P report.

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1-Io . . _eee and photograph a flying disc. Conduct this petrol for so long a tii é"-if-i.&#39;.�.:&#39;;&#39;

T _ In eeoordenoe to these instructions, I toot the Statesnen&#39;s airplane, i,~7_.;-_&#39;;-,�-_ .&#39; and withqes passenger, flee a seven and one-half hour nission -1-1�.".&#39;a}.,;io on tho seventh dev o July, l9i&#39;l. This saission was without result. It -&#39;:=-L&#39;:-"&#39;.f"&#39;�&#39; -

end territory betwcon and around Ett. Rainier and Sit. Adams, uher , &#39;-__;, 1first reported seeing objects henceforth described as saucers or discs. &#39; -: _;

92 - On the eighth day or July, ion, 1 tool: an at-s of the noun Fighter f_&#39;§2f�i~5:-&#39;-&#39;;&#39;; * squadron, Idaho lletioncl Guard, oi� ihich 1 an a member, and flew to nortiiern

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to Boise �by trey of Falls Falls, Tashington, and Pendleton, 0|-egon_._ Unissearch also no negative. &#39; a_ ~n A .~ &#39;-"�".&#39;_;_"j&#39;;&#39;j-,..�.f-=f&#39;.&#39;;*_*

On the ninth day of July, 1947, I continued the search, ags-in using a 1;; £{_-;"_ 1�-_--".national guard Al�-6, this time centering =g&#39; efforts ovei-&#39;the 0:-yhee mountains

� �rest and southwest of Boise, a portion of the llountain Bone desert on a track _,,f&#39;southeast of the �ountain lions army sir �base, thence into the Saartooth noun- ,;,.,teins, and heck in the general direction of Ioiec on a line carrying; no well 17."-_�to the north of the 5hafer hutte forest service lookout station, into the �.0 _� -Tsorseshos Bend area, and thence heck in s southwesterly direction to I. point "_&#39;,_""&#39;.:&#39; &#39;between Boise and the village of iieridisn, rest of Boise a fer Iilese ,o,.»-a--.�.~:&#39;.._<;.-.1.

"&#39; During this march, which lasted approximately two and one-half ;..;_-_,..;...-.&#39;.&#39;_&#39;--.e.£&#39;-�hours, I lee under and around rapidly forming cumulus clouds over that &#39;0-_" _�;_&#39;-area known as the Canes Prairie, east of Boise. fhe clouds were near the :5 -&#39;»-�&#39;1;�"�

. yillage of ?airfield in that valley, and F-�airfield is 76 exiles airline �;,;f._,_&#39;; ___~._ _- distanoe east of Boise. it that time I saw nothing in the vicinity of .--,--_" V __

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&#39; �by the tee:-aersturs at that altitude. Y"-o Q 3&#39;,� "&#39;0�? I turned the aircraft on an easterly heading, pointing toward Goeen �.r��.�,&#39;:� &#39;jg. Field, and had flown on that course for perhaps a ninute when there suddenly _

�_&#39;j,&#39;__&#39; appeared in the left hand portion of my field of vision an object nh_i_ch_§s _"f-A "j�f"-""- hlect and round. &#39; " - &#39; � . *&#39; - &#39; .. &#39;1&#39; T _f&#39;I»;;":_?&#39;?l�.-1&#39;-;&#39;..�__ _�-_T_}_

- I immediately centerod vq gaze on the ohjeot-. At that tine, due to itserre ic uoveocnt, I thought &#39;I was seeing; a weather hclloon. I oolledCM" eoizunicetion station at Boise, and asked if the weather station l|al_1!&#39;.�f."_�Ii.&#39;T"_, .. receltly released e balloon. The reply from comunioator llherteon one that�

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soeo Jo� duration of eight millimeter motion picture film. Duringéiiethe imc the camera was at eye level, I could not sec the object be-r§-cause of ninuteneas of scope introduced by the optical vice findcrggiewith which the camera, an f.l.9 Eastman, was eouipped.&#39;*~;ié5£~2�Z??1§*

Taking the camera eeay and once again centering up gaze on th_object, I observed it to roll so that its edgeet thie tine it fleshed eeee ie the senlightsthin black line. It then performed u maneuverhad begun e sloh roll, or s barrel roll, chichpleted, was broken off at about the 160-degree

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over the beans Prairie. The dejoctiappeored -size of n twenty-five cert piece._-i do not.1 do not tne:, nor can I trvthfullg estizgte

its speed. I can only so: it ea: not an airplane, and if it nos st.avery great distance from me, its speed use great, taking into consider-ation that apparent speed is reduced to thc&#39;viencr if an object is 1 _.very great distance sway. &#39; &#39; ~ &#39; ~ "~ � >*";&#39; r I forget to lock ctthe object. The CA5�: lo;

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the conversation. I have not checked to uctcresne.

of my relating over the air that I so: was to Enableof the report to the neeepapcr, for ot_thet time Ind 4: energies thcnceforth were devoted to ll trans-

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113 maneuvers in the vicinity 0f_uupa, but that nus behind uc.- 4.6-32yaased over Loiae, but I sue that aircraft 50 beneath ue kg some 2,000feet. The P-bl in the vicinity of tuna proceeded ta the srea&#39;dhere&#39;1�saw the abject, at_n5 request, and conducted e search.Puring the afternoon, flights of P-Els core sent out toand �£2919: then flee high altitude aiesioni 01 ezggen."

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crease my powers oi� ohcervation except as to those 1�-rocticed daily hyf._ f an airman. It does not make my eyesight any sharper except ag,ain_as ,;-~-

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_ _ teen and one-half hours on an lssignment to rind a disc and if-possible, to photograph it. In all frankness, I was tired. I may have been - .-1." sufrering, although slightly, from cant of oxygen. - �_ _.�_&#39;11,�;T&#39;;,;j_�_fj1;§,]r&#39; _&#39; Prior to sighting the object, I had concluded there was no point92 in pressing, the search that I probably would never see the disc-like -

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: � &#39; proceeding day-s [particularly when _I ca: with ibad lrterallyé¢* - - talked to myself to keep �boating into my head hat I would not fall,"-;_; &#39;- &#39; victim to the pacer oi� suggestion or self-hypnosis arising from a "&#39; naturally very intent desire to find a disc and bring success -to the .-

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_ or hypnosis. 1 an familiar ti th the optical illusion of a fixed object.- - �beginning to more after it is watched a suilficicnt length oi� tine. I

. knee s.-hat tricks the was will play as to moving-bodies, and hat�: le arnei. o.f- this particularly during night formation flying. -~,-_-._¢_-;_

.- &#39; - I saw the object appear suddenly. if it had novod in a Jerky 1 .� fashion as it did at first} for the full length oi� time I observed -1t,

_ �I would not he, so strong in saying; that I sao something not an aircraft,_ _ not a balloon, and not a corpuscle moving acres: the retina oi� either-1 eye. &#39;i&#39;h_e maneuver described ty the object than its edge was presented

t to nae convinces me that I can an object actually performing in an; &#39;" " &#39;ti tli .ht th - ~_ é�crra c 5 pa . _ _ - _ _ _ - p

_ _ The question remains, oi� -course, &#39;a at r I w it. &#39;The motion -; "&#39;-r picture Iilzp, develencd �and processed E]-F in the Eastman= = laboratories it 241 hatter} Street, San rancisco, showed no trace oi� .

any object. says that it it ass more than a mile distant tron use"I at the bite �described, the object would not have registered suffic-92 - iently on the tila to he shown. lie said it probably Ias too tar away�, _j_ to �be apparent even through great enlargement or the"negstiVe, and ,*f-~- - -enlargement in that case is limited because or the size of the fill! 7

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1. On 12 July 1941, -01� the United Airlines, wasi11§�.¬PI�Vi.892&#39;-&#39;0d at the Boise I-Iunicipol Airport, Boise, Idaho. � EDries passing through B �so on a schedule flight at the time and hada EU minute sto -over. breitcr-=.t st . -p .. ed the atements originallymade bv him to the press to umt he had 5-2011 in the late eveni_1&#39;1#&#39; oi� -JulvJ L�! I

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1- far 10 Jul; 1947, a clzoch was rn-Io at the fO].10&#39;.&#39;Jin[_; locationsin Palv Sprin;":92, Califonmia for the ;>1u&#39;puse oi� trying to locate.

Pa1m Springs Police iwaportment, Palm Springs Newspaper,�ho Desorl: Sm", Palm Sf.~rin_rjs &#39;-Tater &#39;3ompav;,&#39;, Southern California Gas &Cc-mpa1~.v Pair Sprin-f�_S Telephmm Compaq�, Palm Springs Ilnploymont 0i&#39;1&#39;ice,�bPall" """&#39;ir&#39;:|_"� �Ho:estate o1&#39;i�.3.cos, nml the City .&#39;!.&#39;£�ioes of Pals-1 Springs including wastedisposal, �l�.&#39;Z92!T.G1- 1�?-fits, toz rm-oreis .- -d otc. No record of�existed in .&#39;92 .1� oi� the o�.&#39;o1&#39;e 192r:.�tio|1r:&#39;.� offices. i.

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2. Cm 11 .m1;- 1941, r Palm Springs,Co1ii�ornir1 for the past 14 3&#39;enr&#39;:= rm-.s i1.£;orv1o-.1-od. �stated thatho had lived in Palm S;~ri1-.g_s for the past 2-1 years and that he was unaware Lif a porson 11zn.ior1~hac1 ever lived in Palm Springs. �astntod timt -he to the iaot tint Paltj Springs is a resort ares anddwc to the foot; that in the s1:_|un.er no the only 3 to 5 thousand people residedin Palm L>p1"io;&#39;r�-, who:-cos in tho 92-:5;-.t-or months 10 to 12 thousand resided inIzxlm S;&#39;1&#39;ir..g&#39;s, 5: *.&#39;:r.s very possible ti:--_t_oou1d have lived inI�::.L-r. 3_I>1�i1&#39;S nrr-o or loss on 21 nozx-;~~:~r~:mr_o1~t status and he,� notbeing a&#39;.&#39;.&#39;e.r"92 of it. f

A choolc of Caro-rc.l Deli"-rory records revealed a letter addressed to� Po1.1 5pri::_;o, -miled from Cicero, Indiana, postmarked11&#39;; Cicero, l*:c�92.i&#39;>_:~o, July 1967, at I47". The l&#39;C&#39;i;&#39;II�r ad:-ress on the

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1� " &#39; tr -A __ _ o months, twenty six non as&#39;dut- in -the 1.-ro, and has been 1:&#39; the Air Corps for about ten months. tated{I that on B July- 1. -_ -1947, he was going to Base Cleaners from h s o co and was passing #1.:_ A _ alongthe sidewalk near the barracks oi� the ORD h_ v: en he saw five or sis

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cry. , -flight off!�-80s and he estimated the altitude between B-l0,000~teet&#39;.LLf-. v and approximately 7-10 miles away. qtated that the tile ---Ii&#39; objects in. the lead appeared to be round an o a very light gray color while the object in the rear seemed t b &#39;~~&#39; &#39; _ o e either rotating or rolling1, behind the other two. �ststed that tron a distance he could

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LEFT TACOMA; WASHINGTON IN A B TNENTY FIVE TO RETURN TO HAMILTON FIELD,. -_ » _ . _- 92 . I

CALIFORNIA ABOUT&#39;TNO7THIRTY A. MI AUCUST_ONE,-LASTi AND WERE KILLED

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"It is felt that the situation regarding these flying saucers andflying discs is very similar to the situation which was previously encounteredIcy the Bureau during the past war in handling complaints arising out of thesighting of Japanese baloons. You will recall that at the inception of thesecomplaints the Blreau conducted considerable investigation and located numerousbaloons as a cooperative measure for the Arnur and that after considerable� workhad been done, the Army then informed that these were military weapons and thatthey would take over the handling of these completely. This they did and in an �extremely short time issued s big press release as to the splendid work of-theArmy i.n locating these Japanese baloons. From the information available thusfar, it does not appear that these discs should be treated other than as a ; _military weapon. Certainly the Bureau has no way to determine what experiments� &#39;the Amy and Navy are conducting and whether such might be arising out of Kexperiments being conducted by them nor do we have any way of determining how i

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beiieved that the Bureau should be expending its precious manpower on these com-plaints which thus far have no connection with our Russian espionage program.The gn&#39;l1&#39;H&#39;.n1&#39;u&#39; nu+.hr921~&#39;H-.5 no f&#39;!a1~92&#39;.n&#39;92Y92&#39;921!&#39; }&#39;92caf+, � &#39;awn or annu van:-A -in lrvarur 1-+92n+ ~l-,1-92Q92r -1-us.� ""__-""&#39;�J&#39; """���""�""&#39;92"" "92""&#39; &#39;924&#39;4"""H&#39; 55"�-&#39; "92-"&#39;92"&#39;l 92-�92-192�"&#39;]-&#39;,{&#39;923&#39;~** "V I-"l92-&#39;" I"lCl�-&#39; V415!� �nl-I:

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, Portland, reportedwithout cons mg any records that on une 21+, 19b7, While prospecting at apoint in the Cascade Mountains approximately five thousand feet from sea level,during the afternoon he noticed a reflection, looked up, and saw a disc pro-ceeding in :1 southeasterly direction. Inmediately upon sighting this objecthe placed his telescope to his eye and observed the disc for approximatelyforty-five tb sixty seconds. He remarked that it is possible for him to piclcéup an object at a distance of ten miles with his telescope. At the time the-disc was sighted by Kr. �it was banking in the sun, and he observedfive or six similar objects but only concentrated on one. He related thatthey did not fly in any particular formation and that he would estimate theirheight to be about one thousand feet from where he was standing. He said theobject was about thirty feet in die.meter.and appeared to have a tail. It madeno noise.

According to _ he remained in the vicinity of the Cascades Ifor several days and then returned to Portland and noted an article in thelocal paper which stated in effect that a man in Boise, Idaho, had sighted aSimilar object but that authorities had disclaimed any knowledge of such anobject. He said he conmunicated with the M-nu; for the sole purpose of attempt-ing to add credence to the story furnished by the man in Boise.

. _als0 related that on the occasion of his sighting the objectson June 21+, 19L�? he had in his possession a combination compass and watch. Henoted particularly that immediately before he sighted the disc the compassacted very peculiar, the hand waving from one side to the dither, but that thiscondition corrected itself immediately after the discs had passed out of sight.

Informant appeared to be a very reliable individual who advised thathe had been a prospector in the states of Montana, Washington, and Oregon forthe past forty years.

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A storm had occurred in Phoenix on the afternoon of July 7, 1947,and the clouds were at approximately 5000 feet, the color of which was greyand they resembled dense cumulus. A fifteen mile per hour wind was blowing.At approximately 5 p.m. on that date, It:-..was walking from his hometo the �and he heard a noise resembling a P-B0 aircraft, apparentlycoming in a westerly direction. Upon searching the skies he observed to thenortheast what appeared to be an odd shaped ship. He described this ship asbeing possibly 20 to 30 feet in diameter, traveling at an estimated speed of

100 miles_per hour. It appeared to be making a spiral in a small radius of 5possibly one-half to three quarters of a mile. _Stated the sound whichhe first heard was no longer audible; that he hurriedly procured a 120 BrownieBox Camerafrom his shop, and as the aircraft completed the first circle heobtained a photograph. As the ship started on the second turn, it was in a

northwesterly direction from his place and he again snapped a photograph, which� more closely resembled the shape of the ship than photograph #1, this being

designated as Exhibit II, as submitted to the Bureau with letter dated August1,, 1947, by the Office of Assistant Chief of Staff A-2 Intelligence, HamiltonField, California. - further described the di-rection of the ship by�,stating that instead of completing the lefthand downward spiral the ship bankedto the right and disappeared into the clouds. He stated that just as it banked,he had snapped the second photograph, Exhibit II.

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�estimted it to be between 1,000 and 2,000 feet high. He further des- eé 7�cribed the appearance of this ship as closely resembling a picture which appearon the front cover of the May, 1947, issue of the Mechanics Illustrated Magazine,�ne only difference noted by Mr.-being that the ship appeared to be fly-ing ba-Ck&#39;Ia.1&#39;d.o

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; In explaining the results of photographing the ship,stat-edtl-at he was surprised that the object appeared dark on a light back-ground; that he ��ly expected that the object would be light on a dark back-ground. He described the light spot which appears in the center of the object Ezdiibit II! as being a green house. �insisted that the ship made no Anoise that was audible to his ear and he was unable to detect the presence of 75any propeller. He also related that after the newspaper release over Radio &#39;Station RTAR, wherein statements were made that he,� had stated A1-myofficials were studying the photographs, and that it was a top secret, heattempted to determine the source of this release and the Radio station finallytold him that it was a United Press release from Washington, D. C.

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At 5:40 P.M. to-day I observed a so-called flying

saucer. Tnis occurred wnile 1 was nalf way up Rix Ledges

north of Lebanon, N. H. As I was intently watcning tne

noney bees circling in a patcn of sky after leaving my

bee box my attention was called to a floating object that

appeared to be as large as a tennis ball and as wnite as

cotton batting. This object apnroacneo rapidly and noisoleasly

from the East an� was followed closely by another object

that appeared in size and snape like a

a constant angle of inclination to tne

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my eye of approximately five aegrees. Tney were in my vision

for more than a minute wnen I lost them in tne glare of the

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telescope I would nave tnougnt tnat tne planets Venus and

Saturn nae suddenly gotten togetner ana were traveling,/. -><~--&#39;~./1-�!?

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The Director advised on August 14, 1947, that -the Los Jngeles papers were carrying headlines indicatingthat Soviet espionage agents had bg�n instructed todetermine the facts relative to th flying discs. Thearticle carried a Fashington date line and indicatedthat Red espionage agents had been ordered to solve the ""�

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Information was received from the Dow Gherrdcel Company, MidlandMichigan, that on -July 10, 1947, one _ an employoc ofIbw Chendcel Company since about 1922, bI�O921§�,l&#39;1t| some material to theirPh;,&#39;ai.cs laboratory. Ho stated that about 5:15 p.m., Jul; &#39;9, ho. and his twife, L.-mra, were 1-m_&#39;Li.i.n;_-_ Ln a �eld when thcjr hoard :1 pu�&#39; noise aboutone hundred feet amgr. They turned and saw :1 ball oi� -.-:?|ite at-on�. the sizeof a bushel basket burning� a:y=�n&#39;o:-imatcly a foot off 01&#39; the ;;ro;;n:�-. The �redied out tmrr-edict ~11: and later Lane scooped up a three inch are-o of fusediend into a can for oiarrtmotion at thoir laborotori.

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Ins llamas Project, stated the fused sand has some characteristics of Loo ElamosBan} tut. he does not believe it is the same.

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that a man on the porch across the streetit out to the women. -said that A 7 C1did nothing about it.

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I-iiss -_ l _ upon interview j -_,_ 9by Special Agent stated that the event in question occurredat about 7:30 on the evening of Sunda &#39;, August 3. she said that she

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immediately, and they pointed out the object in question. She sawit just before it disappeared over the horizon, but she declared thatit was in view from that time for approximately one minute. She saidit was round and silver-blue in color and appeared to be revolving.She said that she did not recall making any comment that it might havebeen a oird and herself had no idea of what it could he. In view of

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larger 1.1 she had been near to it. �said that sne hadnever seen a.nytning like it before.

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�aid they observed tne object for fifteen or twenty seconds. Hecould not give a description oi� tne oh_ject&#39;s color or tne material it é Cwas composed 01� but said it looked more like a large, flat child&#39;s cup 7than anything else he could think oi�, as the ooject was oval on thetop and came to a point on the bottom side. Paid than - estated "Maybe it&#39;s a flying saucer". He sai he had never seen any-thing move through the air quite like this object, and he had no ideawhere it came from.

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the writer that his Department had taxen no further action nor had &#39;7 Othey received reports of the object in question from any other source.It may be noted that no other Police Department in tne vicinity has

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b! lack of topside inquiries, when compared to the prompt anddemanding inquiries that have originated topside upon former events,give more than ordinary weight to the possibility that this is a donesticproject, about which the President, etc. know.

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