Joint M.Sc. studies in Skopje (history and

future)

Katerina Zdravkovaketi@ii.edu.mk

History of Joint M.Sc. in Skopje 2006: Preparation of joint curricula February 2006: Accepted at Institute of

Informatics May 2006: Accepted at Faculty of Natural

Sciences and Mathematic 29 November 2006: Accepted at the

University Ss Cyril and Methodius March 2007: Enrolment starts April 2007: Mobility starts

Enrolled students 2006/07: 32 students

29 new students 3 students from 2005/06 moved

2007/08: 9 students (MABECS attracted 11 students)

2008/09: 13 students 2009/10: 2 students only

Academic fee 2006/07: 200 EUR per semester + 550

EUR for the thesis 2007/08: 490 EUR per semester + 550

EUR for the thesis 2008/09: 750 EUR per semester + 550

EUR for the thesis 2009/10: 750 EUR per semester + 550

EUR for the thesis 2010/11 (not SE): 700 EUR per semester +

??? EUR for the thesis

Active students 2006/07: 19 out of 32

1 moved to MABECS 1 moved to Leiden in NL, already an M.Sc. 1 moved to Institute of Economics 1 moved to SAP in Heidelberg 9 busy or not interested to continue M.Sc.

studies 2007/08: 6 out of 9 2008/09: 10 out of 12 2009/10: 1 out of 2

Activated core modules SE-C-01: Research methods SE-C-02: Requirements engineering SE-C-03: Architecture, design and patterns SE-C-04: Software testing SE-C-05: System integration SE-C-06: Information system development

process

Activated optional modules SE-O-03: Formal methods engineering SE-O-04: Software engineering for critical

systems SE-O-05: Privacy, ethics and social

responsibilities SE-O-11: Software engineering for

database systems SE-O-12: Advanced topics in software

engineering

SE-C-01: Research methods April 2006

teacher: Hussein Zedan examiner: Zoran Budimac

2007 – teacher and examiner: Zoran Budimac

Attended by all the students Successfully finished by 37 students Average grade: 8,89

SE-C-02: Requirements engineering April 2006

teacher and examiner : Mira Ivanovic Attended by all the students Successfully finished by 24 students Average grade: 9,63

SE-C-03: Architecture, design and patterns August 2006

teacher: Ioan Jurca examiner: Zoran Budimac

2007 – 2009 examiner: Zoran Budimac

Attended by 25 students Successfully finished by 15 students Average grade: 9,27 May 2010

teacher and examiner: Nevena Ackovska 11 (out of 12) are expected to finish it by the end of

September

SE-C-04: Software testing September 2009

teachers: Katerina Zdravkova, Anastas Misev practical lectures: Sasko Ristov examiners: Katerina Zdravkova, Anastas Misev,

Sasko Ristov Attended by 21 student Assignments done by 4 – 17 students Final results will be known in September

SE-C-05: System integration April 2006

teacher: Rebeca Cortazar examiner: Milena Stankovic

2008 – teacher and examiner: Dragoslav Pesovic

Attended by 30 students Successfully finished by 18 students Average grade: 9,78

SE-C-06: Information system development process April 2006

teachers: Mira Ivanovic, Margita Kon-Popovska practical lectures: Vangel Ajanovski examiner: Margita Kon-Popovska

2008 - Mira Ivanovic withdraw Margita Kon-Popovska and Vangel Ajanovski

Attended by more than 20 students Successfully finished by 4 students Average grade: 10,00

SE-O-03: Formal methods engineering May 2006

teacher: Hussein Zedan practical lectures: Boro Jakimovski examiners: Biljana Janeva, Boro Jakimovski

2007 teacher: Biljana Janeva examiners: Biljana Janeva, Boro Jakimovski

2008, 2009 teacher: Dragan Masulovic practical lectures: Boro Jakimovski examiners: Dragan Masulovic, Boro Jakimovski

Attended by more than 25 students Successfully finished by 13 students Average grade: 8,85

SE-O-04: Software engineering for critical systems 2006 -

teacher: Dragan Masulovic Practical lectures: Boro Jakimovski, Anastas

Misev examiners: Dragan Masulovic, Boro Jakimovski,

Anastas Misev Attended by more than 15 students Successfully finished by 6 students Average grade: 10,00

SE-O-05: Privacy, ethics and social responsibilities 2006 -

teacher and examiner: Katerina Zdravkova Attended by more than 40 students Successfully finished by 29 students Average grade: 9,38

SE-O-11: Software engineering for database systems 2007 -

teachers: Margita Kon-Popovska, Goran Velinov individual projects assigned by Goran Velinov practical lectures: Goran Velinov, Vangel

Ajanovski Attended by no more than 10 students Final results will be known in September?

SE-O-12: Advanced topics in software engineering 2007

teacher: individual projects assigned by Zoran Budimac

examiners: Zoran Budimac and Gordana Rakic Attended by approximately 15 students Successfully finished by 13 students Average grade: 9,46

How much have students advanced? April 7th 2010: Magdalena Kostoska defended her

M.Sc thesis Software architectures

June 7th 2010: Daniela Bosnakoska Software testing

September 2010: Nenad Bojkovski will probably defend his M.Sc thesis Software process management

5 more students are preparing their thesis They will probably defend their thesis by the end

of 2010

Statistics of student success 52 students have finished at least one

module 156 exams successfully passed In average, each student passed 3 exams Average grade of all the students who

finished at least one module: 9,33 Best average grade: 10,00 (Magdalena ) Poorest average: 7,67 (from 2 exams)

Successfully finished exams 8 exams: 8 students (average: 9,56) 7 exams: 4 students (average: 9,12) 6 exams: 1 student (average: 9,10) 5 exams: 2 students (average: 9,68) 4 exams: none 3 exams: 1 student (average: 8,67) 2 exams: 12 students (average: 9,10) 1 exam: 10 students (average: 9,81)

Current status of the studies 4 generations enrolled accreditation expires it is not clear whether new students could enroll

in 2010/11 (probably not) interest of students with 3 year studies is very

high New curricula for students who graduated from:

4 year studies according to ECTS 30 + 30 ECST 3 year studies according to ECST 90 + 30 ECST 4 year studies before 2008 60 ? + 30 ECST

will be prepared by the end of June

4 year studies according to ECTS Software engineering division already

covers: Professional ethics (5th semester) Analysis of software requirements (5th

semester) Software architecture and design (6th

semester) Software construction (7th semester) Software process management (8th semester) Software quality and testing (8th semester)

Directly towards optional modules

Optional modules in the 9th semester Research methods System integration Information system development process Software evolution* Component-based development* Software engineering for critical systems Software engineering for database systems Advanced topics in software engineering

* These modules exist in the list of master modules in Novi Sad.

3 year studies according to ECST Both divisions already cover:

Professional ethics (5th semester, 4 ECTS) Students sometimes elect:

Software process management (6th semester) Software quality and testing (6th semester)

They need at least 90 credits 60 credits will be offered from 4-year

studies (predominantly theoretical) 30 credits will be offered from Joint M.Sc.

modules

Recommended SE modules according to our B.Sc. studies Software engineering Calculus 3 Probability and statistics Analysis of software requirements Compilers Internet technologies Software design and architecture Information systems Software construction Software project management Human-computer interaction Software quality and testing

Core modulesInstead of: Analysis of software requirements Software design and architecture Software quality and testing

students should enroll: Requirements engineering Architecture, design and patterns Software testing

Again, optional modules in the 9th semester Research methods System integration Information system development process Software evolution* Component-based development* Software engineering for critical systems Software engineering for database systems Advanced topics in software engineering

* These modules exist in the list of master modules in Novi Sad.

4 year studies before 2008 The most suitable model: 3 semester

model But, the Faculty of Electrical Engineering

and Information Technology offers 1 year master studies in software engineering

Compromise?: 5 modules with 6 credits each

Optional modules in the 9th semester Research methods Requirements engineering Architecture, design and patterns Software testing System integration Information system development process Software evolution* Component-based development* Software engineering for critical systems Software engineering for database systems Advanced topics in software engineering

How to cope with different background All the optional modules from previous slide will

be offered to all the students. The list is big enough to be appropriate for all the

students with 4 year undergraduate studies All the recommended modules from slide 26,

together with all the optional modules from previous slide will be offered to those students who have 3 year professional studies

This approach is comparable with Novi Sad (?)

+ electronic enrolment system or M.Sc studies council We already have an electronic enrolment system

for undergraduates It will be extended for postgraduates Students will express interest for several modules Whenever selection is not appropriate it will not

be accepted For example, student from 3 year studies has already

passed Software quality and testing during 6th semester, and expresses interest to enroll Software testing.

The EE system or the council will not accept this selection.

Joint degree in software engineering The Vice Rector considers joint M.Sc

curricula a great success Earlier, she encouraged me to apply for a

joint degree Nowadays, she insists on double degree We (Skopje and Novi Sad), also consider

only double degree

Double degree in informatics We have additional M.Sc studies in (Enterprise)

information technologies according to Tempus JEP 18046-2003

This direction is similar to information systems in Novi Sad

We suggest to think of potential double degree not only for these two branches, but also to ALL M.Sc. Degrees at the Institute of Informatics (they have an accreditation from 2010)

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