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08-26-2002, 09:30 AM

Jun Fan Gung-Fu (techniques and drills)

Hello, Does anyone have a good example of abasic Jun Fan Gung Fu curriculum? (Pleasebe specific) My Jun Fan is a little rusty, andI am trying to get my technique back. Iknow the basic progression, but I amlooking for a more specific curriculum tosupplement my personal training. Thanks inadvance. Seeker of Truth

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08-27-2002, 09:17 AM

Does this help?

Seattle Curriculum

Gin-Lai or Salutation

Bi-jong or ready stance (Incorporating the Centerline Theory)

Immovable Elbow Theory

Four Corner Theory

Footwork:a. Forwardb. Backwardc. Shifting rightd. Shifting left

Sil Lim Tao (basic form taught in Seattle)

Straight punches and elbow punches and various body punches

Bil-jee (finger jab)

Kicks:a. Forward straight heel kickb. Forward shovel kickc. Side kick1- Low side kickd. Low toe kick

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e. Groin toe kickf. Hook kick (medium & high) g. Spinning back hook kicks

Chi Sao (sticking hands)

Blocks:a. Tan saob. Bong saoc. Gong saod. Vertical fist punche. Fook sao or elbow contained bent wrist blockf. Palm strikes - vertical - side - and palm up

Techniques:a. Pak saob. Lop saoc. Chop chuie - Gwa chuie d. Pak sao lop sao gwa chuiee. Lop sao chung chuie lop sao chung chuief. Chop chuie gwa chuie lop sao chung chuie

Oakland Curriculum

1. Salutation

2. Kicking Drills:a. Five corner kicking: alternating kicks between left and right foot.b. Five corner kicking: from low to high.c. Clockwork kicking: real-time kicking with the closest weapon.d. Combination clockwork kicking & hitting: advanced.Key: real-time, no hesitation, closest weapon to closest target.

3. Stance: Bi jonga. Lead stance: shuffle, front, rear, side.b. Form is the essence, balanced, smooth, feet stay on the ground, (skating)c. Strictly lower body movements: each movement is independent.d. Comfortable and alive, natural bounce, not rigid or stiff with hops or jumps.e. Shuffle to various strikes and kicks.Key: be alive and comfortable.

4. Evasive Maneuversa. Evade various strikes (some exaggerated to make easier)b. Evade various kicks.c. Evade various combinations of strikes and kicks.d. Minimal movement to make opponent miss.- Know what position and distance is safe for you.- Individualize and adapt to the size and reach of the opponent.f. Evade and counter: after learning the above.



Keys: Better to miss by an inch then to block by a mile.- To block is to get hit.- Don't engage the opponent, disengage him.(e.g. don't tangle yourself in blocking and trapping movements)- The whole idea is to intercept his physical and emotional intent to hurt you.

5. Classical versus the New (modern)a. Sil lim tao: performed the classical way.b. Regarding trapping: cut the movement in half for realism. - Concentrate on speed and economy. Key: economy of motion, efficiency.

c. Hook punch: closer to the body then a boxer.- Elbow next to the rib, much tighter and compact.Key: centerline theory (from the center, not outside or wide).- Take the skin (or paint) off of your ribs.d. Rear heel kick: tighter, more centered.Key: Take the skin (or paint) off the inside of your legs.

6. Separate punching drills:a. Centerline punching (rapid): straight-line blast with closing footwork.b. Separate kicking drills- Two Aspects for improved kicking:1. Power: Water in the hose analogy for transfer of force through target.2. Speed: Whip analogy for speed of recovery:(e.g. shoe laces pop, kicking a gnat out of the air)c. Combine, blend power with speed drills, make adjustments.Keys: Delivery system - instant, fast relaxed.- Hand before foot- Non-telegraphic (no pre-steps or stutter steps)(for punching: no flinching)- Complete emphasis on speed and economy of motion.- The less you move the better.- Clean and sharp as a two edged sword, pure Chinese Kung-Fu.- Power comes with time, sometimes years; on the spot power.- Speed comes with accuracy.- Proper form and body alignment with balance.- Footwork is supposed to be light and easy, not jumping around stiff, but relaxed andsmooth without deliberation, angular and instant.

7. Basic Trapping.a. Pak saob. Lop saoc. Gong saod. Jut saoe. Tan saof. Bong saog. Economy of motion: cut these movements in half.h. One hand trapi. Two hand trapKey: Trapping is only a by-product.- Hit, hit and more hit: not trap, trap and then hit.



- While engaging an opponent, if there's emptinessHit.- Skim and glide with friction but let the Chi flow.

8. Line drills (Quiet awareness)- Sensitivity: Touch vs. Non-Touch.

9. Distance: Measure your distancea. Safeb. No man's landc. Gates, body positions, and zonesKey: Put yourself where you're safe and the opponent is not.- Circle to the outside of the strong side, away from rear hand.- Immobilize the lead leg or hand, after you hit, not before.

10. Practice Drillsa. Attack and defense.Key: Stun him first, before obstruction, to break his rhythm or forward momentum.

11. Apparatus traininga. Finger jabb. Straight blastc. Side kick: shin, knee targetd. Side kick: power through targete. Strikes to trapsf. Kicks to trapsg. Bridging the gaph. Basic wing chun trapsi. Strike to hand immobilization to takedownj. Kick to leg immobilization to takedownk. Backfist (high to low, low to high)Keys: All trapping concludes in hitting- Don't punch and kick at an opponent, kick and punch through him- Broken rhythm (Don't be predictable)- Using the stop-kick as a jab as you incorporate it in footwork(e.g. be loose, fluid, Ali-like)

12. Burning Step: hand to foot impetus.

13. The pendulum: avoidance then following back swiftly and instantaneously.

14. Basic and primary goal: Each student must find his own- Identifying the tools- Using the tools- Sharpening the tools- Dissolving the toolsIn adapting to the opponent:- The Three Phrases:a. Ice: solid, unchanging, rigid.b. Water: liquid, flowing.c. Steam: gaseous, focused pressure.

Los Angeles Curriculum



Fitness Programa. Alternate splitsb. Waist twisting (three times to each side)c. Run in placed. Shoulder circlinge. High kicksf. Side kick raiseg. Sit-upsh. Waist twistingi. Leg raisesj. Forward bends

Punching:(Hanging paper, glove, glove pad, wall pad, heavy bag)a. Warm-up - the letting out of water [the idea of dropping the hammer loosely]b. The straight punch (left/right)- with pursuingc. The entering straight right- high - lowd. The back fist

Kicking:a. Warm-up - (left/right)- letting out of water- the whipb. Side kick - (left/right)[note: choice of group training method]- Facing two lines- In group- One student comes outc. Straight kick - (left/right)d. Rear kicke. The shin/knee/groin kicksf. Hook kicks [low first] and toe kickg. Combination kicking - eventually with hand

Basic Defense:a. The stop hit- The shin/knee kick- The finger jab (close range)- Any type of kick to fit inb. The four corner counter

Power training:a. Isometric training:- The upward outward force- The basic power training- The punch- The kick

Classical techniques



a. Pak saob. Lop saoc. Gwa chuied. Chop chuie/gwa chuiee. Pak sao/gwa chuief. Double lop sao (a & b)g. Chop chuie/gwa chuie, lop sao/gwa chuieh. Jut saoi. Pak sao/jut saoj. Chop chuie/gwa chuie/jut tekk. Inside gate tan dal. Tan da low/gwa chuiem. Chop chuie/gwa chuie/lop sao

Combination:a. Right hand feint with groin kickb. Right kick feint with bil-jeec. Right feint to stomach with right straight to headd. Right feint to head shift to right to stomach.

The Three Facets to Jeet Kune Do

1. Non-Classical:That is, there were and are no classical postures, no unrealistic footwork, no mechanicalbody movements, no dissection of movement (i.e. "first you do this, then you do this,and then you do this," etc.) as if it were a corpse. Further, there are no two-mancooperation drills and no rhythmic forms. Instead, the art is "alive" and infused withbroken rhythm.

2. Directness:There is no passive defense, blocking is considered the least efficient manner of defense.Everything in the art is stripped to its essential components with absolutely no fancydecoration or ornate movements (i.e., if somebody grabs you, punch him!). Students aretaught to see reality in its such-ness and not deliberate about it. Simply experience it asit is, when it is. As if, when someone throws something to you, you catch it - you don'tfirst grunt and go into a horse stance. And similarly, when someone grabs you, you hithim - you don't get involved in elaborate joint manipulations and complex maneuvering.

3. Simplicity:a. A daily minimize instead of a daily increase (being wise doesn't mean to "add" more,being wise means to be able to get off sophistication and be simply simple)b. The three stages in Jeet Kune Do1- Sticking to the Nucleus2- Liberation from the Nucleus3- Returning to the original freedom

Or:"Before I studied the art, a punch was just like a punch, a kick was just like a kick. AfterI studied the art, a punch is no longer a punch, a kick is no longer a kick. Now that Iunderstood the art, a punch is just like a punch, a kick is just like a kick."



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08-27-2002, 11:20 AM

Some More for you (and all)

BASIC TRAPPING PROGRESSIONJUN FAN METHOD

1966 PROGRESSION

1) Pak Sao Da

a) By reference point attachmentb) Bridging the gap to attachmentc) By feinting then bridging the gap to pak sao da by capturingd) Pak sao da by capturingi) In flight during attackii) In chambering position before attackiii) In chambering position after attack

2) Types of Pak sao da

a) Gnoy da or Oouy dab) Loy da (two types)i) Inside of wu saoii) Outside of wu saoc) Jung dad) Ha da

3) Pak sao da to Jik chung chuie

4) Pak sao da Bong sao Lop sao da with qua chuie or Sut sao (Fak sao) Gum sao da

5) Pak sao da Loy Pak sao da

6) Pak sao da Chung chuie Loy Pak sao da

7) Pak sao da Biu sao as wedge Pak sao da Lop sao da - Pak sao da

8) Pak sao da Biu sao as wedge Lop sao with chung chuie - Pak sao da

9) Pak sao da Biu sao as wedge Lop sao da right Sut sao (Fak sao) Gum sao da

10) Pak sao da Biu sao as wedge Pak sao da left Sut sao (Fak sao)

11) Pak sao da Biu sao as wedge Lop sao da Pak sao da left Sut sao da (Fak sao)

12) Pak sao da Biu sao as wedge Lop sao da right Sut sao (Fak sao) Cup sao da

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(Kao sao da)

13) Pak sao da Jao sao double Jut Sao gum sao da Jang (elbow)

14) Pak sao da Jao sao double Jut Sao Dum tek Gum sao da - Jang (elbow)

15) Pak sao da Jao sao double Jut Sao rear hand Biu gee or rear chung chuie Gum sao da to any type of follow up

16) Pak sao da Jao sao double Jut Sao Jong tao (Headbutt) Sut (knee) Jang(Elbow) or Gum sao da (Vice versa)

17) Pak sao da Jao sao double Jut Sao Sut (Knee) Gum sao da Jang (Elbow)

18) Pak sao da Jao sao double Jut Sao Dum loy tek to knee Gum sao da Jang(Elbow)

19) Pak sao da Jao sao double Jut Sao with any combination of headbutt (Jongtao), punch (Chung chuie), knee (Sut), foot stomp (Dum tek), elbow (Jang), Finger jab(Biu gee), any palm strike (Jern), inside stomp kick (Loy dum tek), backhand knifehand(wisk hand), Sut sao / Fak sao etc.

20) Pak sao da Go Jao sao da Ha Jao sao da Go Jao sao da double Jut sao rearhand Biu gee Gum sao da Jang (Elbow)

21) Pak sao da Go Jao sao da Ha Jao sao da Go Jao sao da double Jut sao - Gumsao da Jang (Elbow) to other combination routes

22) Pak sao da Go Jao sao da Ha Jao sao da pak sao with qua chuie - to othercombination routes by energy

23) Half Pak sao da Lop sao da Kao sao da inside of lead arm

24) Half Pak sao da Lop sao da Pak sao when parry hand passes Pak Lop sao da

25) Half Pak sao da Lop sao da Chung chuie after parry hand passes Jut Pak sao da Gum sao da

26) Half Pak sao da Lop sao da Huen sao to rear hand Sut sao gum sao da

27) Fake Pak sao da with delay Chung chuie after parry hand passes Jut Pak sao da Gum sao da

28) Pak sao da Gnoy Lop sao da Pak sao da

29) Pak sao da - Gnoy Lop sao da Loy Kao sao da

30) Gnoy woang pak sao da Gnoy Lop sao da Gnoy Lop sao da on the rear arm

31) Half Pak sao da Lop sao da Chung chuie behind rear parry Jut sao da Gumsao da

32) Half Pak sao da Lop sao da - Chung chuie behind rear parry - Pak sao da Lop sao



da Pak sao da

33) Half Pak sao da Lop sao da - Chung chuie behind rear parry - Chung chuie behindreturning parry Gum sao da Fak sao da Gum sao da

34) Choap chuie Qua chuie Lop sao with Qua chuie (Rear hand block)

35) Choap chuie Qua chuie Pak sao da bong sao with Lop sao with Qua chuie or Faksao (Sut sao) (for lead hand block)

36) Choap chuie Qua chuie Jao sao to all the basics in the Jao sao series

37) Choap chuie Qua chuie Gnoy Lop sao da Pak sao da

38) Fake Choap chuie Fake Qua chuie to :-

1. Juk tek (Ha, Jung, Go)2. Oou tek (Ha, Jung, Go)3. Jik tek (Ha, Jung, Go)4. Ha hou Oou tek5. Hou sut6. Jung dum tek7. Jun juk tek8. Jun qua tek9. Jun so tek10. Jun oou tek11. Jun jung dum tek12. Jun jik tek

Numbers 1 to 12 are in the Jun Fan Gung Fu Chum Kiu series. The Jun fan Chum Kiutechniques are not to be mistaken for the Wing Chun Chum Kiu techniques. Jun FanChum Kiu techniques are seeking the bridge or attachment entering techniques orbridging the gap techniques.

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08-27-2002, 11:54 AM

Wow!Sean Madigan is the man! Thank you so much! No one has broken it down that precisefor me yet. I have plenty to play with now!

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08-28-2002, 12:36 AM

wow.. I hope you had that in text form already because if not that was a hell of alot oftyping. Nice post.

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08-28-2002, 06:42 AM

Jun Fan Terminology

Jun Fan Terminology

Kwoon -- school, gym, instituteSi-jo -- Founder of the systemSifu -- Instructor/teacherSi-hing -- your seniorSi-bak -- Instructor's seniorSi-Sook -- Instructor's juniorSi-gung -- Your Instructor's InstructorSi-dai -- your juniorToe-dai -- studentToe-suen -- student's studentJoap-Hop -- group togetherYu Bay! -- ready!Gin Lai -- saluteHay, Hey -- beginBi-jong -- ready stanceHa Da -- low hitJung Da -- middle hitGo Da -- high hitBil-gee -- finger jabJik Chung -- Straight (vertical) punchGua chuie -- back fistPing chuie -- horizontal fistChoap chuie -- knuckle fistO'ou chuie -- hooking punchJik chung chuie -- Straight BlastPak sao -- slapping handLop sao -- grabbing handJut sao -- jerking handJao sao -- running handHuen sao -- circleing handTan sao -- palm up blockMon sao -- inquistive hand

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Wu sao -- protecting handFook sao -- bent arm elbow in blockBong sao -- raised elbow deflectionDoan chi -- single sticking handChi sao -- sticking handsPhon sao -- trapping handsSut -- kneeJang -- elbowJeet tek -- stop kick, intercepting kickJik tek -- front or straight kickJuk tek -- side kickO'ou tek -- hook kick, roundhouse kickHou tek -- back kickJuen tek -- spin kickSo tek -- sweeping kickDum tek -- stomp kickHa so tek -- inverted sweep kickGua tek -- inverted hook kickGoang sao -- low outer wrist blockHa pak -- low slap coverWong pak -- cross hand slap coverGum sao -- pinning handSut sao -- chopping hand

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08-28-2002, 06:47 AM

The Five Ways of Attack

Here is some basic information on the Five Ways of Attack as it generally taught.

SDA - Single Direct Attack - In SDA you simply strike the opponent, Classic examples arethe jab and the lead kick. The SDA is the most simple yet the most advanced of the'ways of attack'

ABC - Attack By Combination - ABC is a logical extension of SDA in which you throwseveral attacks in a row, one or more of which may land. Examples are jab-cross-hookand front kick-round kick.

HIA - Hand Immobilization Attack - In HIA you trap one or more of the opponents limbsas you attack, thus overcoming possible defenses at preventing counterattacks.Examples include pak sao-lop sao or a simple foot trap.

ABD - Attack By Drawing - In ABD you intentionally leave an opening in your defenses,hoping to draw the opponent into a predictable attack which you may then counter.

PIA - Progressive Indirect Attack - PIA is often considered the most sophisticated of the

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five. In it, feint at one or more targets and then attack your real objective withoutwithdrawing the attacking weapon.

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Originally posted by BIG Sean Madigan

Jun Fan TerminologyKwoon -- school, gym, instituteSi-jo -- Founder of the systemSifu -- Instructor/teacherSi-hing -- your seniorSi-bak -- Instructor's seniorSi-Sook -- Instructor's juniorSi-gung -- Your Instructor's InstructorSi-dai -- your juniorToe-dai -- studentToe-suen -- student's studentJoap-Hop -- group togetherYu Bay! -- ready!Gin Lai -- saluteHay, Hey -- beginBi-jong -- ready stanceHa Da -- low hitJung Da -- middle hitGo Da -- high hitBil-gee -- finger jabJik Chung -- Straight (vertical) punchGua chuie -- back fistPing chuie -- horizontal fistChoap chuie -- knuckle fistO'ou chuie -- hooking punchJik chung chuie -- Straight BlastPak sao -- slapping handLop sao -- grabbing handJut sao -- jerking handJao sao -- running handHuen sao -- circleing handTan sao -- palm up blockMon sao -- inquistive handWu sao -- protecting handFook sao -- bent arm elbow in block



Just direct Cantonese translation. Cantonese is one of a bizillion Chinese dialect. HongKong residents use Cantonese as their version of Chinese. The official Chinese languageis Mandarin Chinese. I would say hardly exclusively JKD. Those terms are generic.

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Bong sao -- raised elbow deflectionDoan chi -- single sticking handChi sao -- sticking handsPhon sao -- trapping handsSut -- kneeJang -- elbowJeet tek -- stop kick, intercepting kickJik tek -- front or straight kickJuk tek -- side kickO'ou tek -- hook kick, roundhouse kickHou tek -- back kickJuen tek -- spin kickSo tek -- sweeping kickDum tek -- stomp kickHa so tek -- inverted sweep kickGua tek -- inverted hook kickGoang sao -- low outer wrist blockHa pak -- low slap coverWong pak -- cross hand slap coverGum sao -- pinning handSut sao -- chopping hand

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08-28-2002, 10:54 AM

Hi Kenneth,

I didn't say these terms were exclusive to JKD. These are the terms that are used in "JunFan Gung Fu".

As far as them from Cantonese, well, that makes sense as Bruce Lee was from HongKong.

Have a good day.

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Yes Sir. You are right. I did not mean to imply that such claim of exclusiness was made .

While I am showing off my knowledge in Cantonese, "Jun Fan Gung Fu" meansChinese American Martial Art. "Jun" refers to China. The Chinese used to think they werethe center of the world (which they were at one point, since every empire has its days.) ,hence they referred to China as the Middle Kingdom, which the word "JUN" meansMiddle. "FAN" refers to all the non-Chinese barbarians outside the Middle Kingdom. lol ."Jun Fan Gung Fu" is not traditional Chinese martial art.

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08-28-2002, 01:05 PM

Want some drills as well?

Original Jun Fan Interactive Focus Mitt Drills"1 - 2 Series"

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Feeder throws Jab/Cross combination. Student catches jab. Then student Bob/weavesthe cross and follows up with hook/cross/hook and any two kicks of their choice.

Feeder throws Jab/Cross combination. Student catches jab and throws a rollback/JeetTek to deal with cross. Student then follows up with cross/hook/cross and any two kicksof their choice.

Feeder throws Jab/Cross combination. Student catches jab and then throws straightlead(cut punch) to deal with cross. Then student follows up with cross/hook/cross and anytwo kicks of their choice

Feeder throws Jab/Cross combination. Student catches jab and then uses a shouldershop to deal with cross. Then student follows up with cross/hook/cross and any two kicksof their choice

Feeder throws Jab/Cross combination. Student catches jab. Then student slips the crosswhile throwing a cross/with lead hand parry (Split Entry). Student follows up withhook/cross/hook and any two kicks of their choice.

Feeder throws Jab/Cross combination. Student catches jab and then uses a Woang PakDa to deal with cross. Then student follows up with cross/hook/cross and any two kicksof their choice.

Feeder throws Jab/Cross combination. Student catches jab and deals with cross with acover/drop step. Student then follows up with cross/hook/cross and any two kicks oftheir choice.

Note: These drills are done several ways. First they should be done as is to learn thecorrect energy and motions of the drill. Then you must make them alive with bothfootwork and the proper intensity level.

You can then add to the drill by making them more interactive. Before each drill, usethese methods as well as come up with some of your own: Have a feeder/student jab exchange with the feeder acting as the initiator. Have the student initiate the drill by throwing a jeet tek (or any technique) and thefeeder counter the students attack with the start off the drill.

Original Jun Fan Interactive Focus Mitt Drills"1-3 Series"

Feeder Throws Jab/Hook combination. Student catches jab. Then student uses Biu SauDa to deal with hook. Student then follows up with Cross/Hook/Cross and any two kicksof their choice.

Feeder Throws Jab/Hook combination. Student catches jab. Then student uses a



Bob/weave against the hook and follows up with Cross/Hook/Cross and any two kicks oftheir choice.

Feeder Throws Jab/Hook combination. Student catches jab and uses shoulder stop todeal with hook. Student then follows up with Cross/Hook/Cross and any two kicks of theirchoice.

Feeder throws Jab/Hook combination. Student catches jab and throws a rollback/JeetTek to deal with Hook. Student then follows up with cross/hook/cross and any two kicksof their choice

Feeder throws Jab/Hook combination. Student catches jab and deals with hook with acover/drop step. Student then follows up with hook/cross/hook and any two kicks oftheir choice

Note: These drills are done several ways. First they should be done as is to learn thecorrect energy and motions of the drill. Then you must make them alive with bothfootwork and the proper intensity level.

You can then add to the drill by making them more interactive. Before each drill, usethese methods as well as come up with some of your own: Have a feeder/student jab exchange with the feeder acting as the initiator. Have the student initiate the drill by throwing a jeet tek (or any technique) and thefeeder counter the students attack with the start off the drill.

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Some basic Punching Combinations

Jab Cross Jab Cross - Straightlead Jab - Cross - Lead hook Jab - Cross - Lead uppercut Jab - Lead Hook to body - Lead hook to head Jab - Lead hook - Cross Double jab - lead hook Cross - Hook - Cross Hook - Cross - Hook Lead hook - Rear cross - Lead uppercut Lead uppercut - Rear uppercut - Lead hook Cross - Lead hook - Lead Backfist Overhand Uppercut - Overhand

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08-28-2002, 01:24 PM

Some Basic Footwook...

Here is some basic, "JKD" Footwork.

Step & Slide - From the Bi-jong, take a smal step with your lead foot, nomore then a few inches. Once that is completed, slide your rear foot thesame distance forward. This step is used as an adjustment, and not really foran attack.Slide Step - From the Bi-jong, slide your rear foot until it meets your leadfoot, as this happens, step forward with your lead foot so that you end upback in the bi-jong. For a Slide step backwards, slide your lead foot so that itmeets your rear, and then step with your rear foot to regain bi-jong.Push Shuffle - From the bi-jong, push forward off of your rear foot whileslightly lifting the lead foot. This is an attacking footwork.Side Step - Think push shuffle to either side. Some use the Step & Slide aswell. The important thing here is to make sure that you do not cross yourlegs at any time.Pendulum Step - The easiest way for me to explain this in writing is have youconnect to slide steps...one going forward, and then immediately followed upby a slide step back. So, from the bi-jong, slide your rear foot to kick outyour lead foot (into say a lead kick) and then quickly bring your lead footback to meet your rear foot, kicking it out and replacing it.Quick Advance - From the bi-jong, take a step with your lead foot (as youwould with a step & slide) and then, go right into a Slide Step.

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08-28-2002, 09:35 PM

one question I have, I have heard alot of people refer to jun fan gung fu as bruce lee'sstyle of fighting from a certain period of time, and others refer to it as a set of techniquesfor JFJKD (in other words it doesn't realy matter when they are from, they are thephysical extrapolation of JFJKD).

within the JFJKD community how is the term used?

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