kick-off european ebxml interoperability pilot project brussels, 2002-09-25 pim van der eijk
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Kick-off European ebXML Interoperability Pilot Project
Brussels, 2002-09-25
Pim van der Eijk
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Overview
CEN ISSS eBES Vendor Forum Background and status
Report on Questionnaire Objectives, scope, capabilities, interests
Moving forward Determine structure and timeline Make working arrangements
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CEN ISSS eBES Vendor Forum
CEN ISSS eBES workshop initiative: Incompatibility of B2Bi systems Market needs for combined XML and EDI solutions Vendors need to give clarity on strategy to users SME involvement Lack of participation of European vendors in ebXML Defend European point of view in the global ebXML
arena Promote participation in UN/CEFACT and OASIS work
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Mission and process
Vendor Forum Mission statement:“Mobilizing Vendor involvement in the
standardization process, the awareness and the implementation of ebXML in Europe.”
CEN workshop process Similar to OASIS Technical Committee (TC) Delivers “CEN Workshop Agreements” (CWA)
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Tasks and projects
Tasks: Education, awareness, standardization,
technical assessment and migration Projects:
ebXML interoperability project
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Status First meeting (March):
Brainstorm session Initial idea for ebXML interoperability project
Second meeting (June): Decision to focus on pilot Request to OASIS to endorse and support
OASIS supports: Internationalization of member base Facilitate access to technical work
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Status (cont’d)
Invitation letter to participate (August) States some participation requirements Some twenty respondents
Questionnaire (September) Ten respondents Input for scoping discussion, reported on
today
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Today
Kick-off meeting: Decide on objectives and scope Understand each other’s interests and capabilities Form project teams Make working arrangements, including decision
on commitment Requirements:
Vendors to commit to contribute resources Users to help provide business cases
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Today (cont’d)
Format:1. Plenary presentation of results
Interactivity, please !
2. Make working arrangements: Perhaps split up in groups for discussion
3. Wrap up
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Report on Questionnaire
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Objectives of the questionnaire
Understand the requirements of all participants before defining and starting the project
Determine which ebXML modules vendors: already implement in their products. want to get from other participants, or develop in this
project. want to verify interoperability for.
Get input on business scenario for demonstrator From (customers of) vendors From users and industry groups
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Respondents
CIDX / Solvay (BE) Cronos / XT-I (BE) Dan Net (DA) EAN (BE) Excelon (US/NL)
Seeburger (GE) Software AG (GE/NL) Sun Microsystems (US/CH) TIE (NL) XML Global (CA)
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Sections in the questionnaire
Objectives and scope Level of support for ebXML modules in your
products Priority for ebXML modules Other relevant software Case studies Payload (content) formats Liaisons Process and IPR
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Objectives and goals: score
1. Strongly disagree
2. Disagree
3. Agree conditionally
4. Agree
5. Strongly agree
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Objectives and goals: averagedScore
0
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2 Complem
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Difference from average
-3.5
-3
-2.5
-2
-1.5
-1
-0.5
0
0.5
1
1.5
CIDX Cronos Dannet EAN Excelon Seeburger SoftwareAG
Sun TIE XML Global
1 Leading in Europe
2 Complementary Service Offering
3. Focus on mature parts
4 Verify interoperability
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Disagreements
“Leading in Europe” and “Complementary products/services” EAN: ? has global (not European) focus, user
organization CIDX: ? not applicable, user organization
“Focus on mature parts, esp. ebMS” Sun: CPPA and BPSS as important as ebMS Cronos: don’t just work on ebMS, rest is important too XML Global: start with the registry
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-2.5
-2
-1.5
-1
-0.5
0
0.5
1
1.5
2
CIDX Cronos Dannet EAN Excelon Seeburger Software AG Sun TIE XML Global
5 Limited resources
6 Limited duration
7 Deliver demonstrator
8 Migration scenarios
9 Find funding
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Disagreements (cont’d) “Limited resources, use (pre)sales budget”
(3.6): Seeburger (2): interoperability is first of all about
implementation, sales/marketing comes next TIE (2): some participants will need to do a lot
of technical work, implementations are far from plug-and-play yet
“Deliver demonstrator” (4.3): XML Global (3): focus is to show that ebXML
methodology is useful and relevant
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Disagreements (cont’d)
Migration scenarios (avg. 3.4) XML Global (2): work from registry, via CPP,
to integration with back-end systems of real users
Sun (2): focus on SME user not EDI user Find funding (4.1)
TIE (2): first do the technical interoperability work, otherwise project will fail
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Objectives and goals: summary (tentative, my interpretation) Start with limited scope and duration
mainly marketing exercise for some but serious investment, technical effort for others
Aim for a demonstrator that is a real-life case study is delivered and marketable in summer 2003 demonstrates what ebXML is designed for might help a consortium apply for FP-6 funding
Get a basic infrastructure operational quickly but understand that some of us are at an early stage still leveraging components from other participants
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Support for ebXML scores
1. No implementation, or alpha version for internal use only; 2. Partial implementation, not generally available, does not
yet have the maturity of a product, usable under strict conditions;
3. Implementation available, but not yet tested for interoperability, usable for initial pilot projects but not for production use;
4. Reasonably complete, usable in end-user projects, but interoperability not yet verified;
5. Complete, commercially available implementation that has passed interoperability / conformance testing and is being used in production settings.
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Module support: averageAverage score
0
0.5
1
1.5
2
2.5
3
3.5
ebXML Messaging ebXML Registry ebXML CPPA BPSS Core Components
Module
Sco
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Average score
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Module support: difference from average
Difference from average score per module
-4
-3
-2
-1
0
1
2
3
4
CIDX Cronos Dannet EAN Excelon Seeburger Software AG Sun TIE XML Global
Participants
Sco
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ebXML Registry
ebXML CPPA
BPSS
Core Components
?
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Module support summary
Participants in all three categories Advanced, intermediate, just starting
Emphasis clearly on messaging and collaboration protocols
Other modules supported by “specialists”
Participants collectively implement significant parts of ebXML already !!
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Module priority scores
1. Unimportant, the project should not waste its time looking into this;
2. Not important, but nice to have; 3. Moderately important, if possible the project
should have a look at this;4. Very important, the project should make an
strong effort to be able to provide this; 5. Essential, the project is not a success unless
this module is implemented;
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Module priority results: average Average score
0
1
2
3
4
5
6
ebXML Messaging ebXML Registry ebXML CPPA BPSS Core Components
ebXML modules
Average score
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Module priority results per vendorebXML module priority
-3
-2
-1
0
1
2
3
CIDX Cronos Dannet EAN Excelon Seeburger Software AG Sun TIE XML Global
Sco
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end
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ebXML Messaging
ebXML Registry
ebXML CPPA
BPSS
Core Components
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Module priority summary
Broad agreement that focus should be on ebXML messaging Configured by Collaboration Protocol
Agreements Much less agreement on registry, core
components, BPSS Vendors that are “further ahead” tend to be
more cautious CC and BPSS
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Other software
CIDX: CIDX tools Cronos: transformation Dan Net: transformation Excelon: BPM, modelling Seeburger: EAI, transformation, workflow Sun: UBL concepts Software AG: XML server, EAI, transformation TIE: integration, transformation, forms XML Global: Security, transformation, message store,
payload generation
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Case studies
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“We wish that this project is very closely aligned to real world issues, and so test scenarios and payloads and such should come directly from end customers and vertical organizations” (Sun)
“It is important that this is a real world demonstrator and as such the ebXML aspects must be interfaced to demonstrate a real end-end, possibly multi-party, system” (TIE)
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User participation today
CIDX: Chemical Industry XML B2B standard Raymond Betz (Solvay, Brussels) has offered to
discuss a potential case study EAN:
Involved in OASIS interoperability work EAN UK (e-Centre) has an ebXML project
under way Bolivar Pereira (EAN International, Brussels)
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Other suggestions
From participants: Seeburger: Papinet Software AG: Accord, Opentrans Sun: have a high-level scenario; Sabre?
At a later stage: CEN EEG9 (healthcare informatics) Government and tax agencies, XBRL “Some other large multinational companies”
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Message payload scores
1. Irrelevant
2. Somewhat important
3. Important
4. Very important
5. Essential
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Payload preference averagePayload formats average score
0
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1
1.5
2
2.5
3
3.5
4
4.5
5
ACORD CIDX xCBL EAN-UCC XML UBL OAG RosettaNet UN/EDIFACT
Score
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Preference variation per vendorPayload preference per vendor
-4
-3
-2
-1
0
1
2
3
CIDX Cronos Dannet EAN Excelon Seeburger Software AG Sun TIE XML Global
ACORD
CIDX
xCBL
EAN-UCC XML
UBL
OAG
RosettaNet
UN/EDIFACT
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Payload format summary
Clear preference for UN/EDIFACT EAN-UCC XML as next best
No strong preference for other formats Plus, lack of agreement
Decision on payload format is dependent on business process and should be based on
the demonstrator scenario
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Liaisons
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OASIS IIC TC: interoperability guidelines Drummond Group for UC-Council:
(commercial) “reference implementation” Second series completes in November
Other ebXML pilots worldwide Relevant project teams in UN/CEFACT
and OASIS
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OASIS ebXML Implementation, Interoperability Conformance TC
Chaired by Jacques Durand (Fujitsu) Work on interoperability guidelines and
automated test facilities Now moving to industry deployment
(templates for EAN-XML, RosettaNet) Want to coordinate various initiatives
US (Drummond Group, OAG/NIST), Japan (ECOM), Europe
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OASIS IIC (cont’d)
Main input to our project Basic ebXML interoperability guidelines Working on
“core test suite” synthesized from various initiatives Definition of “interoperability profiles”
Template mechanism for project-specific extensions Generalized from EAN input
Deliverable from our project to IIC: A deployment template for EDIFACT?
Liaison via Steve Yung (Sun), Bolivar Pereira (EAN)
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Other liaisons
OASIS ebXML Messaging TC Ian Jones, chair (BT, UK) Expressed willingness and interest to support
ebXML joint coordination and marketing teams
Research projects Started talking to OpenXchange Other DG Information Society projects
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Participation in interoperability projects
0
0.5
1
1.5
2
2.5
3
3.5
4
4.5
CIDX Cronos Dannet EAN Excelon Seeburger Software AG Sun TIE XML Global
Others
e-centre
DGI 2
DGI 1
OASIS IIC
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Process issues
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Process
Vendor Forum is a project of eBES eBES is a CEN ISSS “workshop” By default, should adopt CEN process and
IPR policy OASIS endorsed and supported
Joint membership condition CEN, OASIS to work out formal relation
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Intellectual property
According to questionnaire, there are no objections to royalty-free license “This is ebXML”
Vendors will retain all rights over their products No automatic endorsement by others
Suggestion: transfer IP to OASIS IIC So there is one place maintaining this Discussion topic for CEN ISSS and OASIS
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Moving forward
Here the discussion should become very interactive …
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Proposal: Two main work areas 1: Messaging interoperability related:
Bottom up, technical focus Start with ebMS and ebCPPA Sort out infrastructure issues Leverage related projects and experience
2: Business-oriented, demonstrator related: Top down, business process-oriented Start with UML use case, activity etc. diagrams towards
BPSS collaborations, business transactions Adopt an existing payload, e.g. EDIFACT
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XML Global: registry-centric approach
Start with ebXML registry hosted by CEN Participants start adding CPPs of real
organizations Participants implement BSI for those CPPs Some CPA negotiation ? … ?
Offering XML Global Registry free of charge ebRR 2.0 compliant implementation
Can be viewed as 3rd work area, orthogonal to other two?
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Area 1: Interoperability testing
Leverage related projects: IIC, e-Centre, Drummond Group Participants involved in both: (EAN), Excelon, Sun, XML
Global Select or define test suite
IIC testing framework and suites Internal test suites of participants? Messaging profile
Infrastructure Computers, network, software, firewalls, ebXML MSH
send and receive, ping and pong CPPA configurable
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Interoperability testing (cont’d)
Here we need input from participants with experience …
Practical issues Do we need central infrastructure? (hardware,
OS, network etc.) or can this be done remotely?
What are the steps to take? Some simulated back-end, replaceable by
“real” integration tools
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Interoperability testing (cont’d)
Need for “two speed” project1. Participants with advanced, conformant
implementations
2. Participants that have initial / prototype implementations only
Need a way to support both
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Area 2: Demonstrator definition
Decide on final project deliverable Work back from there and determine steps to
take Which business case?
Process, information, parties involved … Payload format
Provided by which participants?
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Project teams
This would give (at least) three initial teams ebMS team, “advanced” ebMS team, “catching up” Business case team
Teams should have their own meetings / conference calls in addition to the plenary ones
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Break out in groups
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Tasks
Write charter, project plan Set up conference calls, mailing lists etc. ….