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TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS

Conducted by: CHRIS CASSON and DAN MENDEL

Date: Wednesday, January 18, 2017

Time: Commencing at 10:04 AM

Place: Ohio Department of Transportation 505 South State Route 741 Lebanon, Ohio 45036

Before: Tracy L. Allen, RPR, RMR



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1 P R O C E E D I N G S

2 MR. MENDEL: All right. Can I have

3 everybody's attention, please. Good

4 morning, everybody. My name is Dan Mendel

5 and -- excuse me. My name is Dan Mendel

6 and I'm the district construction

7 administrator. I'm here with ODOT.

8 Today we're going to go over the

9 pre-bid meeting for Project 4417, PID

10 number 82288. It's the I-75 project at GE,

11 parts 1 and 2.

12 So I'm glad to see a really good

13 turnout today. Shows a lot of people are

14 interested in this project.

15 With that, has everyone signed in? We

16 have a sign-in sheet up front. And

17 definitely we need to make sure that

18 everybody's contact information gets put on

19 that.

20 What I'm going to do is I'm going to

21 make some introductions with some people

22 with ODOT, and then Chris Casson is going

23 to make some introductions on the design

24 side of things.

25 So if everybody would remember, we're



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1 having this recorded today with a court

2 reporter. So whenever you speak, please

3 loudly speak your name, what organization

4 you're with, and then you can ask your

5 question or whatnot.

6 So, like I said, my name is Dan

7 Mendel. And to my left is Chris Casson.

8 He is the project manager for this project.

9 On the construction side I want to make

10 some mention. Cory Carfora, up front, he's

11 going to be our project engineer on the

12 site. We have Kelly Wessels. He's our

13 Hamilton County resident engineer.

14 So these are people that, whoever is

15 building this project, is going to probably

16 have a day-in and day-out association with.

17 We have Scott Kraus. He's our traffic

18 specialist here for District 8. Obviously,

19 this project has a lot of phases so I'm

20 sure everyone will get to know Scott very

21 well.

22 Also, in the room today we have Juleda

23 Stoltz. Juleda is our Southwest Regional

24 Outreach Manager. And we also have Anthony

25 Cunningham. He's our contract compliance



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1 officer. There's Anthony.

2 So with that, I'm going to let Chris

3 real quick introduce some of the design

4 people involved with this project.

5 MR. CASSON: First, I think you ought

6 to introduce our district deputy director,

7 Tammy K. Campbell.

8 MR. MENDEL: I'm sorry. Tammy. Tammy

9 Campbell is our District 8 deputy director.

10 MR. CASSON: Also, we have Joe

11 Smithson up front, our geotechnical

12 engineer for District 8.

13 From the design side I'd like to

14 introduce Jeff Hackenbracht. He's the

15 project manager from IBI. We have Steve

16 Butler on the bridge side for IBI. We have

17 Scott Connor for the MOT for IBI. And from

18 the Village of Evendale we have James

19 Jeffers, who is a great integral part of

20 the aesthetics. And I don't think

21 anybody's here from GE, which I wish they

22 were.

23 That's all I have for introduction.

24 MR. MENDEL: Okay. The way today's

25 events are going to go is Chris is going to



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1 go over, in a little nutshell, the project,

2 what it entails. And then Scott Kraus is

3 going to go over some of the MOT phasing.

4 And then we're also going to have Juleda go

5 over some stuff involving this outreach

6 program. Then also everyone, after the

7 pre-bid meeting, they're invited down below

8 in our conference rooms E, F and G for a

9 matchmaker event.

10 So before I turn things over to Chris,

11 I just want to mention a couple things.

12 With this project, it has a DBE goal of 13

13 percent. All right? For everybody the bid

14 date on this is going to be February 16th

15 of 2017, and the completion date is June

16 1st of 2020. So with that, then I'll let

17 Chris go through the presentation.

18 MR. CASSON: As everyone knows, it's

19 the improvement of I-75 from basically

20 south of Shepherd to north of Glendale

21 Milford.

22 I'm going to start with a little

23 flyover video that we had made just for

24 a --

25 (Playing video.)



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1 (Stopped video.)

2 This project is first of the overall

3 phases of Thru the Valley. And,

4 unfortunately, I wasn't involved in the

5 beginning of it. There's been many project

6 managers involved.

7 I came in late. IBI's been around

8 through the whole scenario. So I came in

9 after Stage 3.

10 So this project from -- in the

11 planning development phase has evolved,

12 since Stage 3, dramatically, but I think

13 we've come up with a pretty good plan.

14 GE is a vital part. So what I'm going

15 to do is just basically give an overview

16 of, not the great detail of the plan, but

17 some highlights, some changes, and

18 revisions through the PowerPoint. And then

19 I know you're all probably wondering where

20 the first addendum is, which will be sent

21 up today to be issued.

22 So I'm just going to go through this

23 PowerPoint real quick, and then we can go

24 into questions.

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1 Again, we have the Shepherd today as it

2 looks. Shepherd in the desired final

3 configuration.

4 Vision Way as it looks today in the

5 southbound flyover. So it will end up

6 being Neumann Way and Vision Way

7 connecting.

8 So then we have Glendale Milford today

9 as it stands. And in the final

10 configuration. This just shows the

11 additional roundabout on the GE property.

12 This project will have partnering, a

13 formal partnering meeting. We all know how

14 that is; one-day session.

15 The project has the aesthetics.

16 Village of Evendale came in in April

17 and we've added towers, decorative railing,

18 lighting. We've got grading for landscape.

19 Community logos were already in there.

20 This is the aesthetics conceptual from

21 the beginning. The walls have changed

22 through the design process which are now

23 parallel to 75.

24 Night conceptual. Looking down

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1 The logos. There's a pre-bid on the

2 logos. Size will be changed. This is the

3 Village of Evendale logo as it is in the

4 plan. Here's the new logo. This will be

5 in the addendum. We're going to put

6 federal color numbers with it.

7 Within this project there was a

8 previous demo project in advance to this,

9 but there are still some parcels, three

10 parcels with five structures that need to

11 be demoed.

12 The TOPO in the plan and the plan set

13 was not updated, so all the buildings that

14 were previously demoed are still shown in

15 the plan views and the Xs on them.

16 So I wanted to highlight that there's

17 three parcels requiring demo. There's

18 parcels 345, 334 and 18.

19 And, again, I said five structures on

20 three parcels. And it's the building demo

21 has been inserted on the sheet 1459.

22 These are the three parcels that are

23 needing demo; 1400 Shepherd, 1410 Shepherd,

24 Cook's Garage, 105 Shepherd, and the house

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1 The fuel canopy is gone now. And then we

2 have 800 Shepherd, and the aerial view of

3 right at the off-ramp northbound to

4 Shepherd.

5 The mainline pavement, cement

6 stabilization. This is a change in our

7 ODOT policy. Cement stabilization shall be

8 performed on the mainline pavement. No

9 exceptions. No non-performances. Why? It

10 is part of the structural number now.

11 The 302 base course is reduced. So

12 just because you have a small area, we

13 still need to find a way to have it done or

14 do something different.

15 As I mentioned, GE. GE is a vital

16 partner in this. And we're actually,

17 basically, encroaching, building a new

18 public roadway within, basically, a secure

19 facility.

20 As you can see, from Shepherd at the

21 bottom to Glendale Milford at the top, GE

22 is an integral part of the entire project

23 limits.

24 So coordination with GE is critical.

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1 critical, but GE, in this case, is very

2 critical because they have 10,000 employees

3 per day. That's 20,000 trips.

4 It looks like this (indicating). They

5 have secure areas. We need coordination.

6 They're going to have to move fences.

7 They're going to have temporary fences.

8 And they have a contractor on board that

9 actually works for them. Some of it's in

10 the right-of-way settlement. The temporary

11 fence, because they have their access in

12 controlled areas, they have gate concerns.

13 Some will be closed. Some will be moved.

14 Some will stay open all the time.

15 GE receives material deliveries. GE

16 ships finished products. Some big

17 products.

18 GE also has an expansion going on,

19 which means they're going to have

20 contractors, they're going to be building

21 buildings, have deliveries. 60 to 70

22 million per year for four years. So it's

23 going to be congested.

24 That's why in sheet 62 we have this

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1 construction in which Scott Kraus came up

2 with as far as GE being a partner. So I

3 know it's always the contractor's right to

4 revise, but GE shall have a say in it.

5 They are our partner. That's why GE

6 coordination is critical, future work and

7 the MOT.

8 I'm just going to briefly go over

9 through the MOT, if Scott wants to jump in

10 here.

11 We had an exhibit, and it mainly

12 concentrates on the Neumann Way part. 75's

13 pretty straightforward to Shepherd. On the

14 west side it's pretty straightforward.

15 There's eight phases plus the Pre-

16 Phase 1. Neumann Way and GE is basically

17 in all phases. The mainline 75 majority

18 really is in northbound Phase 4 and 5, the

19 southbound is in 7 and 8.

20 The Pre-Phase 1, Phase 1 and 2 and

21 Shepherd cut-out here from that exhibit,

22 actually as gate six closes for GE, gate

23 four will be open all the time, and

24 building gate five, the Shepherd

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1 temporary pavement on the southbound 75.

2 And that's one large parking lot in Phase 1

3 of the highlighted area of GE.

4 For the Glendale Milford Bridge Phase

5 1 and 2 they'll have part width in the

6 north end on the GE roundabouts. The

7 entrance will be built there with a ped

8 structure.

9 In 3, 4 and 5, if you build a

10 temporary road, after Phase 3 where the 75

11 northbound, the collector will go away, so

12 then the highlighted area on the south and

13 the orange part will be a two-way internal

14 movement for GE.

15 In Phase 4 and 5 on the upper part

16 there in the corner where the flyover and

17 the ramp ends.

18 Then we have 5, 6 and 7 at Shepherd.

19 At the end of Phase 5 Shepherd is closed.

20 Phase 7 in this one for building -- yeah --

21 for building the 4 and 5 below, and then

22 Phase 7 for the Neumann approach.

23 Phase 8 is the tie-in on Neumann where

24 that's in a parking area to the roundabout,

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1 The detours when Shepherd's closed.

2 So if you're southbound, you'll go down to

3 Galbraith. And then the Shepherd Avenue

4 bridge over 75 mainline for southbound

5 vehicles and trucks that currently use

6 Lincoln, Shepherd Lane access via the

7 southbound frontage road will now continue

8 to Galbraith in detour two.

9 In detour three, southbound vehicle

10 trucks that currently use the Lockland Road

11 entrance ramp to 75 southbound will be in

12 the southbound frontage road. Will use the

13 temporary Shepherd Lane entrance ramp to 75

14 northbound, take 75 to Glendale Milford and

15 loop around.

16 The revisions are ongoing. There will

17 be an addendum issued that will be sent out

18 today to answer all the pre-bids and the

19 revised sheets. There's 55 revised sheets.

20 The revisions that I have here will

21 probably not be in the first addendum.

22 We're going to revise the field office. It

23 will mimmick what's used on the Jeremiah

24 Morrow. So it will be a Type C, App per

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1 tweaking based on Internet and some other

2 little items.

3 There will be a revision to change the

4 surface of 75 to Supplemental Spec 806 of

5 the Asphalt Concrete with Joint Density is

6 incorporated.

7 And the signal poles there's a couple

8 items. All signal poles will be black

9 except for Shepherd and Mangham. That will

10 be in the first addendum. The signals in

11 the proprietary part withing the current

12 plan has Vision Way and Ramp Z as the

13 proprietary. That will be revised to ODOT

14 standard.

15 There is a change. There's a quantity

16 bust in the barrier, end anchors, and

17 treatments, which will be corrected.

18 So in the revisions part we've got the

19 field office, the 806 for the Asphalt Joint

20 Density, some proprietary equipment

21 changes. We have the signal pole colors,

22 and the barrier end anchors and treatments

23 will be updated with revised sheets.

24 Additions. We've got Proposal Note

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1 and will be added. Supplemental Spec 902,

2 Conduit Inspection. We will add monitoring

3 wells adjusted to grade. On Cook's parcel,

4 or Cook's Garage, there's going to be some

5 part where there's monitoring wells it's

6 ongoing. We have to figure out which ones

7 have to stay yet. So some of them will

8 have to be adjusted to grade.

9 We're going to add thermo markings for

10 winter to be as directed by the engineer so

11 the contractor's not maintaining pavement

12 markings during the winter. It should be a

13 low rate application spray.

14 We're going to add a quantity for mill

15 and fill on Vision Way south down on to

16 Shepherd, Mangham. The quantity -- we'll

17 be using that in the detour; so we want to

18 restore it at the end for the locals.

19 There are three locations where GE has

20 some future expansion so we're going to add

21 three locations for a utility duct bank.

22 It's six six-inch PVC conduits crossing the

23 road. Pretty minor. But it will be part

24 of the first phases in Phase 1 with

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1 building 800 in the roundabout.

2 So those will be additions; the three

3 utility ducts, mill and fill quantity for

4 Mangham from Vision Way south, thermo

5 markings. It will be as directed by the

6 engineer. It will be their choice, make

7 the decision based on when the phasing

8 flops. Monitoring wells adjusted to grade.

9 Also, GE in the right-of-way

10 settlement they had monitoring wells

11 throughout their campus that they are,

12 basically, abandoning and restoring as part

13 of the right-of-way settlement. And that's

14 ongoing now. Supplemental Spec 902,

15 Proposal Note 128. Like I said, I wasn't

16 going into great detail other than

17 revisions and additions.

18 There is one -- I'd like to add one

19 thing, because Mr. Bassil brought it up.

20 As you know today, these plans and the

21 pavement marking plans are shown that, even

22 though we're adding a fourth lane, it shows

23 only three mainline.

24 The department is doing a practical

25 base design and seeking funds to do the add



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1 lane from north of Glendale Milford to 275

2 and not do the Sharon Road improvement so

3 we can -- on opening day when this happens

4 we hope to actually be able to open the

5 fourth lane.

6 MR. MENDEL: Got to be a question.

7 Who's going to break the ice?

8 MR. CASSON: Juleda, do you want to

9 give a little --

10 MS. STOLTZ: It doesn't matter. If

11 you want me to talk just quickly.

12 MR. CASSON: You got a quick question?

13 MS. STOLTZ: You guys can think of

14 your questions while you listen to me talk.

15 I'm only going to take about two minutes.

16 Okay?

17 So I'm Juleda Stoltz. I'm with the

18 Office of Outreach. I cover District 7, 8

19 and 9.

20 If you're not familiar, the Office of

21 Outreach was created a little over a year

22 ago and we're here to assist contractors

23 who want to get involved with ODOT in any

24 way, shape or form, whether that be

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1 or finding opportunities.

2 And I put my contact information on

3 the first page. Feel free to call me. I

4 also have cards downstairs.

5 I just want to reiterate that there is

6 a 13 percent disadvantage business

7 enterprise goal on this project. And based

8 off the preliminary estimate, that could be

9 up to a million dollars in opportunities

10 for DBE firms.

11 All bidders have to submit their

12 utilization plan at the time of the bid.

13 That's in your Proposal Note 13. If you

14 have questions, that would be Anthony

15 Cunningham. And to find firms you visit

16 www.ohio.sdbe.org and there's a directory.

17 And if you need any assistance, feel free

18 to reach out to me.

19 Although, we do have such a large

20 goal, every ODOT work type is included in

21 this project. So there are a lot of

22 opportunities. And we do have some DBEs

23 here that are going to be participating in

24 our matchmaker later.

25 So I just added the work types so that



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1 when we send this PowerPoint out, any of

2 the firms that want to see that, they'll

3 have it right there and they can review it.

4 We'd like to say much thanks to Great

5 Lakes Construction, Kokosing, and John R.

6 Jurgensen. They will be our prime

7 contractors. The matchmaking event will

8 directly follow the close of this meeting

9 downstairs. Please sign in and pick up the

10 schedule. I scheduled out timeframes.

11 Each contractor will have ten minutes

12 face-to-face.

13 I put the Project 170042 on the wrong

14 bullet point, but there's another project

15 relating the same day as the project we

16 were just speaking about on February 16th.

17 I have an information sheet for you

18 downstairs. That is also a pretty large

19 contract. It was estimated around 23

20 million with a ten percent goal. So that's

21 another opportunity.

22 And several of our contractors that

23 are participating in the matchmaker are

24 also in the plan holder list for that

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1 When you are not connected directly

2 with one of our primes, please network with

3 each other. You never know what

4 opportunity is standing right next to you.

5 We'll also have Mr. Anthony Cunningham

6 downstairs as well, if you have any

7 questions about compliance and that sort of

8 thing. I think our deputy director is

9 going to join us as well, so that's your

10 opportunity to meet her, and Dan, who is

11 our construction administrator.

12 So this is a great opportunity. If

13 you want to participate but did not sign

14 up, you're still more than welcome to come

15 on downstairs and I can give you a schedule

16 if you're interested in meeting with those

17 primes or just network with our firms that

18 we have.

19 And that's all I really have to say.

20 Any questions for me about the office of

21 Outreach or what I do? Well, you can call

22 me any time.

23 MR. MENDEL: Thank you. Just let

24 everybody know, the PowerPoint for today,

25 both of those, will be put on the contract



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1 server. So, you know, if you want to go

2 through what Chris and Juleda went over

3 today, you can always find that on the

4 contract server. We'll probably put that

5 on sometime today. So with that, the floor

6 is open for any questions.

7 SPEAKER: Where can we find that

8 PowerPoint presentation?

9 MR. CASSON: It will be on the ODOT

10 contract server in the actual -- for where

11 the pre-bid is and where they find the

12 design files for reference.

13 MR. CRAWFORD: I'll go first. Jim

14 Crawford with John R. Jurgensen. Chris,

15 page 61, if you want to look at it for

16 reference. Two different Class A, Class B

17 Temporary Pavement specs. And they both

18 say as per plan. Specification lets you

19 substitute additional 302 and move 304. Is

20 that permitted under this as per plan note?

21 MR. CASSON: I was looking at this the

22 other day. We'll have to look into it

23 based on -- it actually changed based on

24 the 2016 specs. I think this was done for

25 the 2013 specs.



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1 MR. CRAWFORD: So you'll give us an

2 answer?

3 MR. CASSON: Yes.

4 MR. CRAWFORD: Thank you.

5 MR. CARTER: Josh Carter, John R.

6 Jurgensen. On page 61B there's a sheeting

7 and shoring note. It's listed under 690.

8 So it's not clear if design is required.

9 If it was a normal cofferdam bridge and

10 sheeting there's a spec for that, but since

11 it's 690 it's not clear.

12 MR. CASSON: Scott Connor can correct

13 me if I'm wrong, but I believe that was in

14 one of the phases for the Glendale Milford

15 and the ramps or it was minor fills,

16 partition. So it wasn't over the drop-off,

17 but it was -- it was borderline whether

18 it's needed or not.

19 MR. CARTER: The spec says if it's

20 holding up traffic. It is.

21 MR. CASSON: True.

22 MR. CARTER: This is holding up

23 traffic.

24 MR. CASSON: What I'd like to do is

25 actually go back in to sections and



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1 actually refer to a page to specifically

2 answer your question by addendum.

3 MR. CARTER: I'll just keep going.

4 Can I just go ahead? I got another one.

5 Sorry. On page 61G there's a MOT

6 conceptual drainage plan referenced.

7 MR. CASSON: Yes, sir.

8 MR. CARTER: Is this for reference

9 only or is it contractural?

10 MR. CASSON: It's for reference only.

11 MR. CARTER: If it's for reference

12 only, why do we have to have written

13 permission to vary from it?

14 MR. CASSON: Does it say that in the

15 note?

16 MR. CRAWFORD: No. He made it up.

17 MR. CASSON: Actually, I didn't want

18 the note in there at all, because it was

19 showing my hand beforehand. So the note

20 will be revised.

21 MR. CARTER: Okay.

22 MR. MENDEL: One of the things I want

23 to just throw out there, and maybe I should

24 have done this earlier on with this

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1 today and it's not contractual. It's just

2 to help all the contractors in the room,

3 you know, understand the project and

4 provide a more accurate bid.

5 MR. GRDINA: Mark Grdina with the

6 Great Lakes Construction Company. Staying

7 on that topic with the temporary pavement

8 as per plan, is there any explanation that

9 you can give us why the concrete option is

10 not allowed?

11 MR. CASSON: In the past where we've

12 used the concrete option it's been -- the

13 removal of and restorations become an issue

14 sometimes to contractors want to leave it

15 in certain times, and that was one of the

16 driving reasons, but coming in late I would

17 have to look for additional reasons why

18 not.

19 MR. GRDINA: I mean, if you can't find

20 any reason and the contractor so chooses to

21 use concrete, could you investigate that?

22 MR. CASSON: I will follow up with --

23 if you want to ask at pre-bid or I will

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1 MR. GRDINA: I'll ask it.

2 MR. CASSON: Okay.

3 MR. GRDINA: My second question was,

4 you explained why the mainline, with

5 regards to stabilization, because it was

6 part of the pavement design, it appears

7 that all the subgrade under the -- off the

8 mainline is also getting stabilized?

9 MR. CASSON: Yes.

10 MR. GRDINA: Even in fills?

11 MR. CASSON: Yes.

12 MR. GRDINA: So was the design for the

13 pavement also using stabilized subgrade

14 there, also?

15 MR. CASSON: It is not in the

16 structural number on the side roads.

17 MR. GRDINA: So if we're putting an

18 embankment in per spec, do we really need

19 to stabilize that material?

20 MR. CASSON: We want it stabilized.

21 MR. GRDINA: Thank you.

22 MR. CRAWFORD: Jim Crawford. Chris,

23 page 61F, Overnight Ramp Closures.

24 Discussion in there that -- you have LEOs

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1 note says, that LEO's associated with these

2 overnight closures is considered incidental

3 to the closure. That seems to be

4 contradictory having what would seem to me

5 that they ought to be covered. You want

6 them out there. We want them out there.

7 Traveling public does.

8 MR. KRAUS: The intent behind the LEO

9 being incidental is to minimize the number

10 of durations -- or the number of closures

11 to minimize the impact of traffic.

12 MR. CRAWFORD: So that's the incentive

13 for minimizing them is not you guys not

14 paying for the LEOs?

15 MR. KRAUS: That's the intent behind

16 the note. I'll confirm with central office

17 and revise if necessary.

18 MR. CRAWFORD: It seems to me that any

19 time you're going to have something closed,

20 you ought to have them there. I agree.

21 Thank you.

22 MR. CARTER: Josh Carter, John R.

23 Jurgensen. Page 61 there's an earthwork

24 for MOT. It's listed under Specification

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1 615? 614 doesn't have a spec to place

2 dirt.

3 MR. CASSON: It should be 615.

4 MR. CARTER: Okay.

5 MR. CASSON: There is an update coming

6 for that. Thanks for pointing that out.

7 Also, the information for the embankment

8 probably needs to be added.

9 MR. CARTER: So I guess to follow up

10 on that, 615 says that undercut will be

11 paid for.

12 MR. CASSON: Uh-huh.

13 MR. CARTER: And this note says it's

14 incidental. Is the intent for the undercut

15 to be incidental to the contractor under

16 the road for MOT contrary to the spec?

17 MR. CASSON: We'll have to follow up

18 and clarify that.

19 MR. CARTER: And it does say that if

20 it's within close proximity, there's

21 just -- your definition or our definition

22 of close proximity isn't clear.

23 MR. CASSON: Okay.

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1 that just follow the spec or give us some

2 more information as to whether we can

3 determine if undercut's going to be

4 required or not.

5 I guess I'll keep going.

6 MR. CASSON: Keep going.

7 MR. CARTER: The pre-phase there's no

8 MOT plan for it. There's multiple areas

9 where you're exposing a truss to traffic.

10 I assume you want a barrier wall in these

11 areas. Is that the intent?

12 MR. CASSON: Yeah. In the first

13 addendum, in that Pre-Phase 1, we're adding

14 a barrier wall to that.


16 MR. CASSON: We'll have updated

17 sheets.


19 MR. CASSON: And quantities.

20 MR. CARTER: And in the south and

21 crossover where you're taking down the wall

22 through the valley, there's going to be a

23 blunt end on that wall once you take that

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1 that wall which could require that wall to

2 be taken out further, so could you address

3 whether something will be required there?

4 MR. CASSON: Yes. We'll actually look

5 at the offsets and actually go through

6 there. Thank you.

7 MR. CARTER: Yeah. There's also no

8 barrier wall in that location when you're

9 demoing it.

10 MR. CASSON: And the update sheets for

11 the grading that was faint will be in the

12 first addendum.

13 MR. CRAWFORD: Okay. I'm trying to

14 find a page. Give me a minute. I've got

15 one more question.

16 MR. CASSON: There is a website to

17 submit those.

18 MR. CRAWFORD: Yeah, but that's why

19 you had this meeting, so you can write them

20 down.

21 MR. CASSON: You've been saving them.

22 MR. CRAWFORD: Okay. Jim Crawford

23 with Jergensen. Page 103 and it's also

24 106. A lot of thought has been put into

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1 to the center of the intersection. And

2 then it says: Okay, contractor, you figure

3 it out. Well, my idea is to close it. Is

4 that okay?

5 MR. CASSON: Yeah. There will be a

6 clarification issued on this. It was on my

7 agenda to do based on the -- we were

8 thinking of a weekend closure. And that

9 will be updated in the addendum.


11 MR. CASSON: I'm disappointed.

12 MR. CRAWFORD: I'm done.

13 MR. CASSON: Is there any questions

14 about the additive alternates for the

15 towers being built partly up so far in this

16 project, and then actually they'll be a

17 contract later to finish them by Evendale.

18 MR. CARTER: I guess I'll ask on that.

19 So it will not show up in your bid, is that

20 correct, it's going to show up as a penny?

21 MR. CASSON: Correct.

22 MR. CARTER: And the low bid will be

23 determined by whether or not, if you select

24 that, what the low bid is.

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1 but I will issue a clarification and

2 addendum from central office. As I know,

3 we did not collect any money for it as it's

4 an additive alt. And it's their option to

5 build it or not build it.

6 MR. JEFFERS: I will say our intention

7 is to build it.

8 MR. CASSON: Thank you.

9 MR. CARTER: If that's the case, can

10 you just make it not an alternate?

11 MR. CASSON: We're afraid you would

12 bid it too high and we didn't want to tax

13 the locals.

14 MR. CARTER: It makes us all sit in

15 anticipation for a while to know who the

16 low contractor is.

17 MR. CASSON: I didn't want it to be

18 part of the project to determine the low

19 bid, either.

20 MR. CARTER: But it will be.

21 MR. CRAWFORD: But it will determine

22 the low bid because it's -- if you accept

23 the alternate.

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2 MR. CASSON: That will be followed up

3 in the clarification.


5 MR. MENDEL: Any further questions?

6 Once again, a reminder, if you haven't

7 signed the sign-in sheet, please do so.

8 And then this meeting is adjourned and

9 there's another one downstairs for the meet

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