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KUDU 2 SSAGO Reunion 2017


The Adventure Continues...

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If you have left SSAGO, but you want to keep

meeting up with your other ex-SSAGO mates, why not

join SAGGA? SAGGA gives you a framework in which

to continue your Scouting and Guiding, but what

you do within that framework is up to you.

If you want to go abroad to an international

Jamboree, then that is fine, if you just want to

meet up with your mates around a campfire, then

that is fine too.

If you can’t give the time to be a leader, then

it is a way of giving back to the Scout and Guide

community without the commitment. But it is not

all about service. SAGGA gives plenty of social

opportunities.

Although SAGGA has a few traditions and regular

activities, we are continually developing and

changing. You are not tied to the existing events,

you can make up your own. They can be service and/

or social events.

Groups within SAGGA are loosely geographically

based, but they don’t have to be. The newest

group, the Nomads, covers the country. You can

join any group you like, or join a number of

groups if you wish. Remember that you are free to

create your own group.

As you get older, you might find that you have

time to be a leader. SAGGA runs leader support

weekends which give you the opportunity to discuss

your problems and share ideas with other Scout and

Guide leaders from across the country. You will be

amazed at the ideas you can pick up.

SAGGA is a national SASU, although you don’t

have to become a SASU member. We are working on a

Guiding equivalent.

To join simply visit https://sagga.org.uk/Home/

Join, fill in the form and the Registrar will be

in touch.

https://sagga.org.uk/Home/Join

https://sagga.org.uk/Home/Join


1967 and All That

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(or the bits we can remember of the combined

History of SAGGA and SSAGO)

SAGGA - The Scout and Guide Graduate Association

was founded in 1957, which seems a bit chicken and

egg, since surely the Student should come before

the Graduate?

However, there were forerunners to SSAGO (yes,

more than one) representing students in the UK.

If you get a chance this weekend, have a good

look through some of the archive material provided

by SAGGA member Ann Day. They tell a tale of two

organisations - Inter Varsity and Inter-Collegiate

scout and guide clubs - and a history of ne’er the

twain shall meet…

In the late 1950s there were two types of Higher

Education establishments: - the Universities

(represented by Oxbridge and the Redbricks) and

Training Colleges. One issued Degrees, the other

Diplomas. SAGGA had never made the distinction,

but I-V looked down on I-C and resisted a merger.

In what Ann has described as a “rather snooty

letter” from 1958, the Inter-Varsity Rally Chair

rebuffs suggestions of amalgamation

The I-C students were told they couldn’t attend

the I-V rally (which were week long then, but a

group of I-C students, supported by SAGGA,

insisted that natural justice should mean they be

allowed to attend the conference when I-V debated

the matter. Apparently it involved enough canny I-

C students “rigging” the discussion groups (by

thorough preparation!) and the I-C chair taking

the resistant I-V chair for a romantic tryst

during a key vote.

The rest they say is History…

(This article has been thoroughly researched and

all sources can be verified. I think.)


Alternative Rally 2017

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After many years in the wilderness, the Alter-

native Rally is returning. This year Alternative

Rally will be 13-15th October at Alfrey Activity

Centre Broadwater (Warwickshire CV7 7HR) and it

will cost £30. For those who aren’t driving we

can do station pick ups from Birmingham Interna-

tional on request.

The event won’t follow the exact format of a

Rally and as such we aren’t asking you to book

onto an activity on Saturday afternoon, however

we will have lots of ideas for things to do in

the area with signup sheets available so that

people can see who wants to go do the same thing.

There will be some entertainment on the Satur-

day evening but until we have a better idea of

numbers we’ll be keeping that a secret.

In terms of food, just like rally, all of your

food for the weekend is provided. However, we

hope to provide a higher quality of food now that

we’re no longer students and can afford the

slightly finer things in life! This means there

will be food from Friday evening to Sunday

lunchtime.

Unlike Rally we will have no staff so everyone

will be expected to pitch in and help, again

there will be signup sheets available. Many hands

make light work so you won’t find yourself bogged

down with lots of jobs - don’t let it put you

off!

Hopefully this sounds like your sort of event

and you’ll continue to the booking page at

rally.sagga.org.uk.

Any Questions please do email -

[email protected].

http://rally.sagga.org.uk/

http://rally.sagga.org.uk/

mailto:[email protected]


Rallies

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There have been 150 SSAGO rallies over the years.

How many of these did you attend?

1967 Spring Leeds

1967 Summer Birmingham

1967 Autumn Loughborough

1968 Spring Cambridge

1968 Summer Bangor

1968 Autumn Nottingham

1969 Spring Leicester

1969 Summer Cardiff

1969 Autumn Oxford Halloween

1970 Spring London

1970 Summer Leeds



1971 Summer Bangor


1972 Spring Birmingham


1972 Summer Manchester

1972 Autumn Leeds

1973 Summer Leicster or Loughborough

1973 Autumn Imperial College

1974 Autumn Hull

1975 Autumn Oxford

1976 Spring Birmingham

1976 Summer Sheffield

1976 Autumn Durham North

1976 Autumn Oxford South

1977 Spring Manchester

1977 Summer Exeter

1977 Autumn Bangor

1978 Summer Nottingham

1978 Autumn Sheffield Notarally

1979 Spring Oxford

1979 Summer Winchester / Southampton Wessex 79

1979 Autumn

1980 Spring Cambridge Camrally

1980 Summer Bangor

1980 Autumn Manchester

1981 Spring Bristol

1981 Summer Birmingham

1981 Autumn Liverpool

1982 Spring Salford

1982 Summer Loughborough Lufbra Rally

1983 Spring Sheffield Peak Meet 83

1983 Summer Glasgow Auchenrallie

1983 Autumn Liverpool Liverrally

1984 Spring Bath

1984 Summer Birmingham WOW


1985 Summer Liverpool Scouse 85

1985 Autumn Birmingham Panic

1986 Spring Edinburgh Auld Leekie

1986 Autumn Salford Beaver

1987 Spring Cambridge Cycle Rally

1987 Summer Birmingham UB 40

1987 Autumn St Andrews Tartan Rally

1988 Spring Bangor Dragons


1988 Summer Salford Teddy Bears Picnic

1988 Autumn Newcastle Stars & Stripes

1989 Spring Bath Roman

1989 Summer Cambridge Duck

1989 Autumn Salford Superheroes

1990 Spring Birmingham Wombles

1990 Summer Lancaster

1990 Autumn Cheltenham (WITAN) Not the Edinburgh

Rally

1991 Spring Oxford King Arthur

1991 Summer Coventry Monster

1991 Autumn Newcastle Vikings

1992 Spring Bath Circus

1992 Summer Portsmouth Pirates

1992 Autumn Leeds Hawaiian

1993 Spring Birmingham Late Late Christmas

1993 Summer Cambridge Back to School

1993 Autumn Nottingham Rocky Hood

1994 Spring Bristol Cartoon

1994 Summer Lancaster Cowboys and Indians

1994 Autumn Welsh clubs Farmyard

1995 Spring Bath Carry on Roman. Toga to be True

1995 Summer Portsmouth Medieval

1995 Autumn Exeter Beach bums

1996 Spring Leeds The 60s

1996 Summer Surrey Christmas

1996 Autumn Coventry Back to School

1997 Spring Birmingham Panto

1997 Summer Bristol Desert Island

1997 Autumn Bath Bathtime

1998 Spring Hull Fish and Ships

1998 Summer Nottingham Hospital

1998 Autumn Manchester Manchester ‘Nuff Said

1999 Spring Sheffield Toys

1999 Summer Aber & friends The best of the 70s

1999 Autumn Loughborough Noah’s Ark

2000 Spring Bristol All Around the World

2000 Summer Cambridge The C-Rally

2000 Autumn Durham & TyneLink Childrens TV

2001 Spring Cardiff Carry On


2001 Summer ’The Old Gits’ The Sweetie Rally

2001 Autumn Bath A BUGS Life

2002 Spring Birmingham The Gangster Rally

2002 Summer Nottingham Gold

2002 Autumn Leeds & Leicester ULALA “Le” Rally

2003 Spring Loughborough Bear Friends

2003 Summer Oxford Monopoly

2003 Autumn Warwick Shakespeare

2004 Spring Lancaster A Musical Wonderland

2004 Spring Manchester Easter Ball

2004 Summer Great Welsh Rally Monty Python

2004 Autumn Southampton James Bond

2005 Spring Coventry

2005 Spring Dundee The Scottish Rally

2005 Summer Manchester The Great Detective

2005 Autumn Leeds 80s

2006 Spring Birmingham Chocolate

2006 Spring Cardiff April Fools Ball

2006 Summer Nottingham Robin Hood Men in Tights

2006 Autumn Bangor Blackadder

2007 Spring Liverpool

2007 Spring Loughborough Down Under


2007 Summer 2007 Steering Group 2007 Anniversary

Reunion Event

2007 Autumn Leicester Safari

2008 Spring Liverpool Crystal Maze

2008 Spring Sheffield Oscars

2008 Summer Swansea Under the Sea

2008 Autumn Aberdeen Disney

2009 Spring Birmingham and Wolverhampton Black

Country “Yam Yam”

2009 Spring Loughborough

2009 Summer Bristol Musical

2009 Autumn Leeds Emergency

2010 Spring Southampton and Portsmouth Sci-fi

2010 Summer Cambridge Medieval

2010 Autumn London Silly Hat

2011 Spring Cardiff Legendary

2011 Summer Loughborough Inflatable

2011 Autumn Aberdeen Scottish Extreme

2012 Spring Southampton Magic

2012 Summer Warwick Ancient Greek Games

2012 Autumn Leeds Pantomine

2013 Spring Manchester Cartoon

2013 Summer Plymouth Pirates

2013 Autumn Sheffield Birthday Party

2014 Spring Bath Bath Time

2014 Summer The Exec (London) Nerd

2014 Autumn Loughborough Puzzles

2015 Spring Lancaster Superheroes

2015 Summer Bangor Disco

2015 Autumn Cardiff Carnival

2016 Spring SAGUWE Great Invention

2016 Summer Southampton Dinorally

2016 Autumn Associates Space Rally

2017 Spring Sheffield Hallam Best of British

2017 Summer Leeds Around the World

2017 Autumn Plymouth 90s Rally


SSAGO RALLY SILLY GAMES (we can remember)

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Eating baked beans off a string

Making pizzas with various coloured and flavoured

porridge as toppings

Transporting water/lard/jelly/beans in cups/on

team members/between legs/in cleavage around an

obstacle course/through scramble net/through

spiders web

Shaving a balloon covered in shaving foam

Relay races wearing oversized wellies filled with

baked beans / custard etc - cornflakes and jelly!

Slurping jelly through a straw

Milking rubber glove cow udders


Rally memoirs (but what happens at Rally. stays

at Rally…)

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Here is a collection of memoirs from numerous

contributors covering SSAGO rallies over the

years.

Mascot stealing - Leeds had a potato and it was

eaten at the Oxford Rally in Spring 1991! By

that time it had a little outfit, studs and was

approximately 7 months old!

On the same topic, someone (no names) recalls

taking a Land Rover apart to get Webster the BUGS

mascot off the steering wheel.

Autumn 2003: Much ado about bugger all was

Andrew Bolton's only rally. He toured Coventry in

a minibus buying up every donut in the city

Cambridge pub bicycle tour Summer 1989 - bit

wobbly by the end.

Sleeping on tables in huts was quite common! -

Trev Ward spending 5 minutes talking to Rachel’s

feet after she rolled off the tables being used

as bunk beds.

The famous Minibus rolling of Spring 1992:

unfortunately this was not at all like

Gloucestershire cheese rolling, and the insurance

arguments discussions rolled on for years

afterwards.

Kath went to this Rally (in Bath) with right

leg in ankle to hip cast and the pub crawl was a

pub stay due to lack of mobility (and her leg

didn’t fit into the loos…)

Not having the foggiest where you were: In the

days before email and internet mapping, probably

only those in the front of the minibus had the

directions and it was probably dark when you

arrived, so had no idea of where you were! This

is why our rally memories are so hazy! Some of

us had long drives to Rallies before the M40 was

opened...


Tom Martin managed 19 rallies between 2000 and

2007 (others managed many, many more), but his

favourite memories are:

• Autumn 2000 - First rally, country in chaos

(post fuel strike, no trains and widespread

flooding) but 100ish people got to Durham.

Rally had been given some handheld flares (not

distress ones) which were being marched around

the campfire (what would go wrong).

• Autumn 2001 - Rally in a school (I think the

last indoor one), with a bonfire in the

playground! The late returners from the

campfire made a big hole in the Sunday morning

breakfast. 100% increase on attendance from

previous year.

• Autumn 2002 - Recognising the achievement of

Ranygazoo (they were going to retire) and

having the pleasure of presenting them with the

first lifetime membership of SSAGO.

• Summer 2003 - The best silly games ever with a

monopoly game around Oxford with official

looking cards and proper challenges.

• Autumn 2004 - Then a student in Carlisle drove

to Southampton in a 900cc car and arrived on

site after driving 300+ miles without a hitch

to reverse straight into a hedge and small

ditch. Won the James Bond themed fancy dress

competition as a dead body in a sheet sleeping

bag.

• Spring 2005 - (Had moved since the previous

rally and had a 900 mile round trip) First

rally in Scotland since 1987. Snowed for a

couple of days before the rally. Silly games on

Saturday morning desended into a mass snowball

fight and then building things out of snow such

as a TV (including separate remote control),

sofa and dog. Local band hadn’t been warned

about SSAGO barn dances! Organisers had

organised kilt hire!


• Summer 2007 - Last rally and in my adopted

hometown. Showed SSAGO in the best possible

light. Silly games nearly involved the air

ambulance coming out (a queue was forming to

accompany the casualty).

Finally, someone proposed marriage during any

other business at the AGM Oxford 1991, which was

seconded by the then Secretary’s sister. The

minutes of the meeting got a bit sketchy after

that point as the Secretary realised she would be

getting Jonathan Payne as a brother-in-law. The

happy couple have recently celebrated their 25th

wedding anniversary and have two children in

SSAGO.

Meet SAG and GA!

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Carrying on the tradition of SSAGO mascots and

in light of our new positive relationship with

them, SAGGA now has its very own pair of mascots.

So meet SAG and GA. On our travels in Belgium over

the summer, the local supermarket were running a

sticker scheme. We spent enough money to redeem

two of the stuffed vegetable toys. There was much

discussion on who we should get. We went with

SAGGA colours: green -SAG the broccoli, and yellow

- GA the banana). Since their return to England

they have supported us at Wellies and Wristbands

and Gilwell Reunion. They even have their own

neckers. Look out for them at future events!

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