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Loreto College, Swords. CAO Information Evening Catriona Foley Guidance Counsellor. Agenda. Applicants Responsibilities General points regarding the CAO. Entry Requirements and the Points System. Making an application. How places are allocated by CAO After submitting the application. - PowerPoint PPT PresentationTRANSCRIPT
Applicants Responsibilities General points regarding the CAO.
Entry Requirements and the Points System.
Making an application. How places are allocated by CAO After submitting the application. Other Options Questions
Research thoroughly all the courses for which she is making an application.
Be au fait with all aspects of the application system used (CAO) for these courses, i.e., procedures, dates, fees, rules, etc.
Publications College Prospectuses – 2009 Entry Student Yearbook and Career Directory 2, 2009
ed. Career Choice 2009 ed., Level Three
Publications Applying to College 2009 ed., by R. Dunne. CAO Handbook 2009 Newspapers The Irish Times
Tuesdays Education Section Early January Special College
Supplement Series of articles - Brian Mooney
The Independent Careers Articles - Mary O Donnell
Internet Qualifax – www.qualifax.ie Irish courses database CAO – www.cao.ie Contains links to course
websites Career Directions – www.careerdirections.ie Careers Portal – www.careersportal.ie College websites (Addresses in CAO Handbook)
People Relatives Past pupils Admissions/Academic staff of colleges
Guidance Counsellor Interest Inventories / Guidance interviews Access to sources of information Appointments for parents
Centralised application system for 43 Irish 3rd level institutions, including 5 fee-paying colleges.
Every 6th year will have a CAO Application Pack which includes:› 2009 CAO Handbook – application and course
information› Paper application form› Application fee bank giro form
Application Dates and FeesPaper Application
Fee Payment Method
Normal €45 Bank Giro Form (BGF)
Late €90 Bank Giro Form (BGF)
Online Application
Fee Payment Method
Normal €35 BGF or Credit/Laser Card
Late €70 BGF or Credit/Laser Card
Change of Mind No Fee
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There are 3 types of courses students can apply for under the Nat. Qualifications Framework.
These are applied for on 2 separate lists on a single form:
Level 6 & 7 Courses Level 8 Courses
Ordinary Degrees (7) Higher Certificates (6)
Honours Degrees (8)
Up to 10 Course Choices
Up to 10 Course Choices
The courses are clearly labelled in the CAO Handbook
N.B. – Care must be taken with courses marked ‘Restricted’.
These courses cannot be applied for after February 1st due to extra assessments required.
Some courses have interviews/ Aptitude tests/ Portfolio/ Auditions
Medicine –HPAT test February 14th These courses are called restricted
entry Application must be made by the
1st February. Details of all restricted entry courses
are in CAO Handbook
2 HC3 and 4 Passes Different colleges have different entry
requirements Colleges of NUI (UCD, UCC, NUI, M & NUI,
G) Have a Second language requirement There are some exceptions now for
Science, Engineering and Agriculture Science Courses
Pharmacy UCC & TCD
Physiotherapy (TCD)
Human Nutrition
HC3 in Chemistry & A second Science Subject
HC3 in two science subjects
HC3 in Chemistry
Minimum Entry Requirements
E.g. UCD Pass 6 subjects At least 2 HC3 Pass in:
Irish English Another Language Mathematics* Science Subject*
Specific Subject Requirements
E.g.sEngineering(UCD)
HC3 MathsVeterinary
Medicine(UCD) HC3 Chemistry
French Law(UCD) HB3 French
If all Entry Requirements are met applicant is deemed ‘Qualified’ to apply.
5 passes for most level 6 & level 7 courses although some colleges e.g. DKIT require Minimum 200 points
College Prospectuses need to be consulted
Generally in the CAO systemNo. of qualified applicants > No. of course places
--> selection system is needed.Selection system used in Irish 3rd Level
Colleges is POINTS SYSTEM
Points are calculated from ONE sitting of the Leaving Certificate only.
Points total is calculated from SIX best subjects Bonus points are awarded for Honours Mathematics by
› University of Limerick - all courses› DIT - Course DT021, Electronic Eng.
Entry Requirements can be satisfied over more than one sitting of the Leaving Certificate
Grade Honours OrdinaryA1 100 60A2 90 50
B1 85 45B2 80 40B3 75 35
C1 70 30C2 65 25C3 60 20
D1 55 15D2 50 10D3 45 5
Applications can be made online or by paper form – use one method only. (€10 charge if 2 applications sent)
Always keep proof of sending application: online – print screen receipt, paper – obtain certificate of post.
Form is very straight forward to fill out. www.cao.ie
**VERY IMPORTANT** Students must fill out both course lists in:
Genuine Order of Preference They should not put down courses on the basis of
their predictions of next years cut off points or their own points scores.
Why? – Look at how places are allocated.
Science – UCD100 places to be offered
Science – Maynooth100 places to be offered
Course Cut Off Points = 330 Course Cut Off Points = 335*
Random Selection to be used
Last
place to
be filled
ApplicantPosition
PointsScore
1 5602 5353 5254 5205 5106 5107 5058 5009 490-- ---- --15 45516 44517 44018 43519 42020 41021 405-- ---- --98 34599 340
100 335101 335102 335103 315104 310105 305-- ---- --
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ApplicantPosition
PointsScore
1 5602 5353 5254 5205 5106 5107 5058 5009 490-- ---- --15 45516 44517 44018 43519 42020 41021 405-- ---- --98 34099 335
100 330101 325102 315103 310104 305105 295-- ---- --
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Course MeritLists
Two or more candidates on the same points
Random number given to each application Highest random Number gets the place Shown by an * For example 370* means not every
candidate with 370 points got a place but everyone with 375 would have
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A Students Course Preferences - Example
Students
Points
Total
= 445
Cut Off Points for Course
All Lower
Preference
Courses
Disappear
From Students
Preferences
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Last place to
be filled - Round 1 Last place to
be filled – Round 1
Last place to
be filled - Round 2
Last place to
be filled - Round 2
ROUND 2
7 round one places not accepted
3 round one places not accepted
Round 2 cut off points - 455
Round 2 cut off points - 460
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4
5
6
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8
9
10
So – what is the best way to fill in the courses?
Dream Courses
Realistic Courses
Banker Courses
Note: The position of a course in a student’s
preference order does not in any way affect their chance of getting a place on that course.
The exact same procedure takes place for both lists on the form, hence students may get get 2 offers in August – one from each list, may accept only one.
Students should think carefully about not accepting one of these offers, as they may not receive any further offers.
Regardless of whether or not they accept a course in round 1, they will still be offered a higher preference course in subsequent rounds if they become entitled one.
Apply directly to CAO Level 8
Five Areas General Integrated (4.5 Years- General & Children) Midwifery Psychiatric Intellectual Disability Nursing
2HC3 and four passes Irish or English Mathematics A Laboratory Science Subject Three other subjects Minimum points 2008 300-365
Receive CAO number and Statement of Course Choices – check this carefully.
Some students may be called for extra assessments.
Receive Statement of Application Record – check details carefully.
Change of Mind facility becomes available – use sparingly and carefully.
Leaving Cert. Results are sent to CAO. Places are allocated and offered by post and online. Students accept, reject or defer offered places. Further rounds of offers are made until all course
places are filled.
1st February, 2009› Closing date for receipt of normal applications
Before/By 21st February, 2009› Receive Statement of Course Choices
1st May, 2009› Closing date for receipt of late applications
Before/By 31st May, 2009› Receive Statement of Application Record
From late May, 2009› Change of mind forms may be sent.
1st July, 2009› Latest date for receipt of change of mind form in
CAO. Late August, 2009
› First round of offers will commence.
This is arranged This is arranged AFTERAFTER an offer is an offer is made. (Read the CAO Handbook made. (Read the CAO Handbook about this.)about this.)
You are recommended to check with the You are recommended to check with the college in advance about their deferral college in advance about their deferral conditions and arrangements.conditions and arrangements.
The CAO Handbook mentions some The CAO Handbook mentions some courses where deferral will be difficult courses where deferral will be difficult or impossible.or impossible.
Non- CAO Options
Apprenticeships Defence Forces Gardaí Fáilte Ireland Direct to Employment Post Leaving Certificate Courses
› FETAC links scheme
Apprenticeships
Find a suitable employer Must be approved by Fás Employer must register apprentice
within two weeks of starting Meet the minimum educational
requirements ie 5 Passes in Junior Cert.
Further Education Training Awards Council
FETAC Links to Higher Education Institutes
Especially Important for Students who may not make the CAO Points
Can begin with a PLC and end up with a Doctorate
Mature Entry to College (age 23 or over)
Other Alternatives UCAS Applying to colleges in UK and
Northern Ireland Closing Date 15th January except for
Medicine, Dentistry, Vet, Oxford & Cambridge closing date 15th October
Fees are applicable. Must apply online using UCAS Apply Personal statement is very important
National Framework of Qualifications
10 Levels Level 4
Leaving Cert
Level 5/6(former Cert./Diploma)
PLC, FETAC, VEC
Level 7Ordinary Degree
I.T.s,NUI
Level 8Honours Degree
I.T.s, NUI
Destination Survey 2008
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Grants Higher Education Grants Applies to Level 8 Courses
Vocational Education Committees Level 6 & Level 7 courses
Post Leaving Certificate All PLC courses
Means Tested HEA - Local County Council VEC – County Dublin Apply to VEC
office in Tallaght PLC- to college attending Applications by 15th July. Late
applications are accepted Log on to www.studentfinance.ie for
further information
Paving the Way
Goal Setting Attendance, Study & Homework Examination Techniques Part-time jobs must go!! Keep up Sporting Activities Relax!
DATES OF INTEREST
Monday 17th November – 6th Year PTM Monday 24th November at 7.30pm - Study
Skills Talk for parents Monday December 15th- Study Skills Seminar February 1st - CAO Deadline January 20th -CAO online‘Early Bird’ – €35 February – Mocks March – Mock Interviews June – Leaving Cert. begins August 12th - Results August 17th - First Round offers
Homework and Study
The recommended amount of time spent by a 6th Year student doing homework and study should be:
3 ½ hours per night six times per week, i.e. 21 hours per week.
The World is Your Oyster
Aim high Match the Goal with
the necessary work Never too late
LIFELONG LEARNING
The journey is only beginning……..