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US Consumer Product Safety Commission LOG OF MEETING

SUBJECT Meeting with ROHVA

DATE OF MEETING November 142011

LOG ENTRY SOURCE Matt HowsareDottie Lee

DATE OF LOG ENTRY November 10 2011

LOCATION Hearing room CPSC Headquarters

CPSC ATTENDEE(S) Chairman Inez Tenenbaum Commissioner Robert Adler Matt Howsare Jason Levine Jana Fong-Swamidoss Dottie Lee Robert howell Mark Kumagai Caroleene Paul

NON-CPSC ATTENDEE(S) Paul Vitrano - EVP ROHVA Kathy Van Kleeck - SVP Government Relations ROHVA Duane Taylor - Director Federal Affairs ROHVA Stacy Bogard - General Counsel Polaris Industries Jan Rintamaki - Director Government Relations Polaris Industries Jeff Eyres - Assistant General Counsel Polaris Industries Brett Gass - Senior Staff Engineer Polaris Industries Aaron Deckard - Senior Project Engineer Polaris Industries Erika Jones - Mayer Brown outside counsel to Polaris Industries Brad Franklin - Manager Government Relations Yamaha Motor Corp USA Brian Gabel- Counsel Yamaha Motor Corp USA David Murray - Wilkie Farr amp Gallagher outside counsel to Yamaha Motor Corp USA Tyler Furman - RampD Engineer Kawasaki Motors Mfg Corp USA

Mike Wiegard - Eckert Seamans outside counsel to Kawasaki Motors Corp USA Doug Wilson - Managing Counsel Kawasaki Motors Corp USA Ted Bettin - VP New Product Development Arctic Cat Annamarie Daley - Barnes amp Thornburg outside counsel to Arctic Cat Marie-Claud Simard - Product Safety Advisor BRP Yves St-Arnaud - Director Legal Services BRP Mike Giddings - Bracewell and Giuliani Honda Paul Nathanson - Bracewell and Giuliani James Walker - Carr Engineering Inc consultant to ROHVA Dan Toomey - Design Research Engineering consultant to ROHVA Chris Van Ee - Design Research Engineering consultant to ROHVA Paul Fraantz - Applied Safety amp Ergonomics consultant to ROHVA Charles Burhans - Applied Safety amp ErgonomiCS consultant to ROHVA

SUMMARY OF MEETING ROHVA members gave a presentation (attached) to Chairman Tenenbaum and Commissioner Adler in which they demonstrated the progress they have made to date in developing the ANSIIROHVA voluntary standard A brief discussion followed where the Chairman and Commissioner Adler raised the three general concerns of CPSCs technical experts about the new ROHVA standard the rigor of ROHVAs lateral stability test the lack of an understeering requirement and inadequate occupant protection system requirements The Chairman and Commissioner Adler briefly asked questions of ROHVA members concerning the presentation and the new standard Chairman Tenenbaum concluded the meeting by recognizing that certain companies in attendance at the meeting manufactured ROVs that far exceeded the requirements of the ROHVA standard and encouraged these companies to continue working through the voluntary standards process to significantly strengthen the ROHVA standard to meet the level of safety that their products already provide and that CPSC staff believe should be attained

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Vehicle Voluntary Standard Occupant Behavior

V1 Static and Dynamic I V 1 Required Helmet and Stability Performance Requirements Seatbelt Use

Standardized WarningV 2 Occupant Retention I V 2 LabelsPerformance Requirements

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V 4 Vehicle Class Expanded to Meet I V 4 Hands-On Training CPSC Area of Interest Q12012

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bull Handling (understeer gradient) on pavement - Inappropriate for use as astandard or metric

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2 Voluntary standard does not adeqUatelY The data show that vehicles meeting protect consumers from unreasonable ANSVROHVA 1middot2011 do not present an risk of death and injury unreasonable risk of death and injury

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Education And Training

ROV EmiddotCourse Over 2800 enrolled in 2011 Up 23 from 2010 Supported by members Publicity via enthusiast trade and government partners

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3 Promote education and training with 13 Request open communication with media events (Locations TBO) CPSC regarding its positions and the

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