machiniplex premiere of "push": text chat

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Text Chat of Lainy Voom's PUSH

Premiere in Second Life

October 25, 2009

[9:25] Love Perfferle: I think the screen is the wrong aspect to thefilm

[9:25] Love Perfferle: I am going to adjust[9:25] Love Perfferle: the screen

[9:25] Sol Bartz: It's letterboxed into a 4:3 aspect ratio.[9:25] Sol Bartz: The actual aspect ratio was an irregular one.[9:26] Sol Bartz: 1440 x 900 or some such.

[9:26] Love Perfferle: yes, my old screen and render - I factoredthat down

[9:26] Sol Bartz: so I just encoded it thru Quicktime using 320x240,with letterboxing to pad it.

[9:26] Love Perfferle: better

[9:26] Love Perfferle: welcoem Scout!

[9:26] Scout Kukulcan: yo

[9:27] Sol Bartz: so a 4:3 screen should look okay... unless youwanted to try to crop the letterbox.

[10:00] Lainy Voom: I'm sorry about not being able to do a voicechat, I feel a bit of an idiot


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[10:00] Beans Canning: nonsense[10:00] Beans Canning: will be fine

[10:01] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: that silly dont feel like an idiot

[10:01] Sol Bartz: Yeah, it's no big deal at all.

[10:01] Scout Kukulcan: OMG, no voice!

[10:01] Pooky Amsterdam: wonderful to be here

[10:02] GToon Jun: Hi Everyone!

[10:02] Beans Canning: nice to see everyone

[10:02] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: hi everyone

[10:02] GToon Jun: We'll be conducting most of this session in chat

[10:02] Lainy Voom: Hello!

[10:02] Beans Canning: we R the machinima keenies :D

[10:02] Gala Charron: Hello

[10:02] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: huge group hugs

[10:02] GToon Jun: Will wait another five minutes for late comers

and then we'll start

[10:02] Pooky Amsterdam: Keenima

[10:02] Dektora Saenz is Online

[10:02] Lainy Voom: machinima obsessives :P

[10:02] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: lol

[10:02] Beans Canning: lolol

[10:02] Pooky Amsterdam: Sol Ahoy!

[10:02] Sol Bartz: Hi Pooky!

[10:03] Lainy Voom: Hi Tams

[10:03] Beans Canning: helloo!


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[10:03] Gala Charron: Hihi

[10:03] Pooky Amsterdam: wonderful theater too

[10:03] Lainy Voom: looking swish as always

[10:03] Rohan Fermi is Online

[10:03] Gala Charron: :D

[10:03] Lainy Voom: Hi Rohan

[10:03] Rohan Fermi: Hi There

[10:03] Beans Canning: hi CD

[10:03] Beans Canning: you are pinching my bottom

[10:03] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: u love it

[10:03] Scout Kukulcan: kinky

[10:04] Sol Bartz: lol

[10:04] Beans Canning: :P

[10:04] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: lol[10:04] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: :P

[10:04] Rosco Teardrop: crazy shoes, Beans :o and a little scary

[10:04] Rohan Fermi: the usual supects, hello all

[10:04] Pooky Amsterdam: love Beans outfit

[10:04] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: hello

[10:04] Beans Canning: in hnour of our maericans frineds upocomingholiday[10:04] Lainy Voom: Hello

[10:04] Scout Kukulcan: ??????????

[10:04] Rosco Teardrop: lol

[10:05] Beans Canning: Halloweeen

[10:05] Rohan Fermi: are we going to have voice?


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[10:05] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: samhain![10:05] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: oop[10:05] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: one of my faves

[10:05] Beans Canning: nope no need to worry about it this time!

[10:05] GToon Jun: No, this session will be primarily in text chat[10:05] GToon Jun: You can ask questions in voice if you like. Feelfree

[10:05] Beans Canning: we brits have a festival to celebrate someonetrying to blow up parliament instead


[10:05] Rosco Teardrop: and the occasioanl cough and splutter fromopen mics

[10:05] Rohan Fermi: Hi Phil, Ricky

[10:05] GToon Jun: Penny for the Guy?

[10:06] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: guy fox

[10:06] GToon Jun: Hi Rohan

[10:06] Beans Canning: take him, he's yours


[10:06] Pooky Amsterdam: Love that! Guy Fawkes - has anyone evermade a movie of his life?

[10:06] Sol Bartz: Hi Rohan

[10:06] Rohan Fermi: good


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[10:07] Pooky Amsterdam: he said I dont knwo what time it is foryou- but its in an hour be ready

[10:07] Rosco Teardrop: lol, I forgot this morning, all clocks weremixed up

[10:07] GToon Jun: Another couple minutes

[10:07] Rohan Fermi: we gained one hour

[10:07] Love Perfferle: is tha today?

[10:07] Beans Canning: yes

[10:07] Beans Canning: but next week for USA

[10:07] Love Perfferle: ah

[10:07] Love Perfferle: ty :)

[10:07] zsgamemaster Bing is Online

[10:07] Rohan Fermi: ah ok , wasn'T SURE ABOUT THAT[10:07] Rohan Fermi: argh typing

[10:09] GToon Jun: Ok. Everyone let's get seated and we'll start thePremiere[10:09] GToon Jun: Hello there

[10:09] Pooky Amsterdam: all right[10:09] Pooky Amsterdam: S;-D

[10:09] Beans Canning: aargh mike is making me do maths to sort outthis week's schedule for work lol

[10:10] Pooky Amsterdam: oh thsi is exciting thsi film is sobeuatiful

[10:10] Lainy Voom: Hi Dek!

[10:10] Rosco Teardrop: why does the seat have a constipated pose?

[10:10] Dektora Saenz: \ao off

[10:10] Gala Charron: yay! Hi Dek!

[10:10] Love Perfferle: sometimes you just have to fold it

[10:10] Pooky Amsterdam: lol "Don't ask"


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[10:10] Love Perfferle: hold[10:10] Love Perfferle: lol

[10:11] GToon Jun: This Premiere will mostly be conducted in textchat everyone although you can ask questions if you like[10:11] GToon Jun: I'll pass them on to Lainy.

[10:11] Seat: Touch the seat to change your pose - have a gooddiscussion!

[10:11] Dektora Saenz: Hi Gala! :D

[10:11] GToon Jun: Thank you all for coming. I really appreciateyour support for these Premieres[10:11] GToon Jun: And I'd very much like to thank Lainy for comingtoday

[10:11] Beans Canning: yeah!!!

[10:11] Love Perfferle: clap clap clap

[10:12] GToon Jun: Our goal with these Premieres[10:12] GToon Jun: is to bring you the best films we can find and toshare them with you

[10:12] Lainy Voom: Thanks

[10:12] GToon Jun: Also, we want to bring the director and/or crew

to discuss the film[10:12] GToon Jun: The idea being to promote a sense of communityand share ideas about filmmaking

[10:12] Conover's Flight-Helper 6.3.3 (WEAR ME!): Flight-helper isready and operational.

[10:12] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky is Online

[10:12] GToon Jun: Also, we want to have some fun!

[10:13] Beans Canning: it sounds like you guys found your missionstatement

[10:13] GToon Jun: Yep[10:13] GToon Jun: Before we begin[10:13] GToon Jun: I'd like to mention to everyone that Phil and Iare going[10:13] GToon Jun: to be using Second Life more this coming year


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[10:13] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: YAY

[10:13] Pooky Amsterdam: BRAVO

[10:13] GToon Jun: in fact we are considering renting a specificspace

[10:14] Beans Canning: yikes does that mean more frocks?

[10:14] GToon Jun: for Machiniplex/Expo where we can conducttutorials and get together sessions


[10:14] Gala Charron: lol

[10:14] GToon Jun: for interested parties

[10:14] Pooky Amsterdam: excellent!

[10:14] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: cool

[10:14] GToon Jun: You know, a specific place in SL for Machiniplex

[10:14] Rohan Fermi: great

[10:14] Beans Canning: I'm so glad you guys have time and energy forthis

[10:14] GToon Jun: We want to extend our educational aspect ofMachiniplex to help people

[10:14] Beans Canning: I don't know if you realise how important itis

[10:14] GToon Jun: learn to make better films[10:15] GToon Jun: Thanks, Beans[10:15] GToon Jun: Still in the planning stages[10:15] GToon Jun: but we'll keep you informed.

[10:15] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: sounds like a good evil plan

[10:15] GToon Jun: Any suggestions you have please contact me orphil.

[10:15] Rosco Teardrop: sounds good, especially the interestedparties, Free drinks?

[10:15] GToon Jun: I'll be posting on this at the mplex blog soon.


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[10:15] Beans Canning: and they will volunteer you :D

[10:15] GToon Jun: Free drinks, Rosco.[10:16] GToon Jun: Ok.[10:16] GToon Jun: Now, if you haven't been to a Premiere beforehere's how it works[10:16] GToon Jun: we will screen our film. Today it's Lainy Voom'sexcellent PUSH

[10:16] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: whoot

[10:16] GToon Jun: than we'll chat a bit with the director[10:17] GToon Jun: Let's start the screening. Just click the playbutton at the bottom right corner of the screen.

[10:17] Sol Bartz: ooo, I just noticed the slow blink on Lainy'savatar. Too cool.

[10:17] Love Perfferle: sol stares dreamily into Lainey's eyes.....

[10:17] Lainy Voom: Yeah it's animated!

PUSH is screened.

[10:19] Beans Canning: `*..* APPLAUSE `*..*APPLAUSE `*..*

[10:19] Sol Bartz: *claps*

[10:19] GToon Jun: Bravo!

[10:19] Pooky Amsterdam: APPLAUDS[10:19] Pooky Amsterdam: APPLAUDS[10:19] Pooky Amsterdam: Wonderful


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[10:19] Sol Bartz: So wonderful.

[10:19] Rohan Fermi: amazing

[10:19] Rosco Teardrop: always amazing

[10:19] Pooky Amsterdam: BRAVA[10:19] Pooky Amsterdam: BRAVA

[10:20] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: .....:::: HOOOOOO! ::::.....[10:20] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: whoo Hoooo!

[10:20] GToon Jun: Hard to know where to start with an amazing filmlike this

[10:20] Lainy Voom: I was waiting for it to play, didn't realise ithad finished lol

[10:20] Love Perfferle: bravo!

[10:20] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: i love it

[10:20] Peachy Ballyhoo is Offline

[10:20] Rohan Fermi: anytime I watch I find new things

[10:20] GToon Jun: We'll most likely watch it again before we finish

[10:20] Beans Canning: absolutely

[10:20] GToon Jun: so, let me introduce Lainy Voom to y'all

[10:20] Pooky Amsterdam: sure![10:20] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: its very dali

[10:20] Love Perfferle: fel free to watch it again anytime, i willeave it up

[10:20] GToon Jun: Thanks for coming today Lainy

[10:20] Peachy Ballyhoo is Online

[10:20] Love Perfferle: *leve it[10:20] Love Perfferle: argH!

[10:20] Lainy Voom: It reminds me of Dali also![10:21] Lainy Voom: Oh thanks very much


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[10:21] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: its greatly surrealist u did wickedjob

[10:21] Lainy Voom: thanks very much

[10:21] GToon Jun: couple questions to start us off[10:21] GToon Jun: Where did the idea for this film come from?

[10:22] Rysan Fall is Online[10:22] Peachy Ballyhoo is Offline

[10:22] Lainy Voom: had just finished making "The Stolen Child" andI felt as though I'd been stuck in a little box creatively, because Iwas trying to stay true to the poem, to try to interpret the poem ina particular way, without resorting to cliche. So when I had finishedI felt this sudden whoosh of freedom, and that gave me a push ofcreative energy.

Usually when I get these creative moments, I usually waste thembecause I'm trying to overthink something. This time for whateverreason I just said "Oh, stuff it, just do it" so even if an idea wassilly or cliche or didn't make any sense, I just created it, andfilmed it.So the film didn't come from any conscious thoughts, it was justpulled from some unconscious thoughts, it must have been from what Iwas feeling at the time. It doesn't use the left side of the brain,so in some ways it feels very dreamlike (to me).

"Stolen" was very structed, very strict, I spent a lot of timecreating the sets, paying attention to technical aspects, reading thetext, o

[10:23] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: thats awesome

[10:23] Lainy Voom: Stolen" was very structed, very strict, I spenta lot of time creating the sets, paying attention to technicalaspects, reading the text, over thinking things. "Push" is creativelyfree, I spent no time at all making sets, or thinking about what Iwas doing. The 2 tilms were created within a couple of weeks of each

other, and they are probably direct opposites of each other.

[10:23] Beans Canning: so it was a reaction against the imposedstructure of stolen child?

[10:23] Rosco Teardrop: both ways have their merits, and both workedfor you

[10:24] Lainy Voom: yeah it was a reaction, which is why I called it


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[10:27] Pooky Amsterdam: brilliant

[10:27] GToon Jun: Did one set up lead to the next?

[10:27] Lainy Voom: yes

[10:27] Sol Bartz: Whoa! Sequentially filmed, this? I'm stunned.

[10:27] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: that is wicked

[10:28] Lainy Voom: Not all of it, but just about all of the edit isexactly how it went into the editor

[10:28] Rohan Fermi: the story unfolds itself

[10:28] GToon Jun: Where did you find the music for the film?

[10:28] Sol Bartz: Wow.


[10:28] Lainy Voom: I never thought about that, that is differentthan how I sually work, its all over the place usually

[10:28] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: the subconcious is anamazing thing:)especially when u let it roam free like that imho

[10:28] Lainy Voom: its never chronological

[10:29] Lainy Voom: Yeah I think I just caught it at the right timeWytch[10:29] Lainy Voom: luck

[10:29] Pooky Amsterdam: you gave yourself the freedom to do this[10:29] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: u were in da zone

[10:29] Beans Canning: but this film is very chronological[10:29] Beans Canning: in theme as well as in method

[10:29] GToon Jun: I think it's a bit more than luck, Lainy.

[10:29] GToon Jun: Talent is the largest part, I think

[10:29] Sol Bartz: Oh I agree, Beans. Just amazed it was filmed so.

[10:29] Lainy Voom: its lucky I grabbed that elusive creative spurtof energy



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[10:29] GToon Jun: ah, yes

[10:29] Lainy Voom: they come and go really quickly

[10:30] Sol Bartz: Yes they do.

[10:30] Beans Canning: I noticed previous to film

[10:30] Lainy Voom: ?

[10:30] Beans Canning: some fo your sreenshots had similar themes

[10:30] Lainy Voom: Oh they did?

[10:30] Beans Canning: wondered if it was something building up

[10:30] Rohan Fermi: we are lucky as well you grabbed that enery andformed it into that film for us

[10:30] Beans Canning: there was a shot of a woman with clocks inher back

[10:31] Sol Bartz: A great shot.

[10:31] Pooky Amsterdam: beautiful and surreal-[10:31] Pooky Amsterdam: the music was fantastic[10:31] Pooky Amsterdam: teh bongos music was perfect

[10:31] Sol Bartz: At what point in the production timeline was the

music decision made, Lainy?

[10:31] GToon Jun: yes, tell us about the music, Lainy

[10:32] Lainy Voom: I found the music before I started editing[10:32] Lainy Voom: oo hang on I've got a prepped answer for this

[10:32] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: i loved the music

[10:32] GToon Jun: Me, too

[10:32] Lainy Voom: I'm always playing music from Magnatune, thereare some really amazing musicians on there. Music, the film, and theedit are always integral to each other. I couldn't take a film editand then place any music on top of it, the music dictates how thefilm will be and the film changes and adapts to what the music is, somusic is extremely important. So with "Push" the music dictated thespeed of the edit, and the shots that were chosen.[10:32] Lainy Voom: Yeah I'd been playing that music for a while[10:32] Lainy Voom: I'ts a great album


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[10:33] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: i have that chanel on too

[10:33] GToon Jun: It reminded me of a modern dance performance

[10:33] Gala Charron: worked perfectly

[10:33] Beans Canning: I know you usually spend a lot of timegetting your edits in exactly the right place, was this the case withPush?

[10:33] GToon Jun: And there are images of people moving, dancing?walking in teh film

[10:33] Beans Canning: it seemed absolutely right to me[10:34] Beans Canning: witht he music

[10:34] Sol Bartz: Indeed. Inseparable.

[10:34] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: i think the greatest thing about itis its like stepping into a mind

[10:34] Lainy Voom: I'm a little bit obsessive with my edits I guesslol

[10:34] Pooky Amsterdam: its so great

[10:34] GToon Jun: How often it is in machinima that the music seemspasted on to the film

[10:34] GToon Jun: instead of being an integral part

[10:34] Sol Bartz: Has the music artist seen your movie, Lainy?

[10:34] GToon Jun: like in PUSH[10:34] Lainy Voom: I dont thin so Sol?

[10:34] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: music is really important they shouldmesh an this does nicely

[10:34] Sol Bartz: I'll bet they'd be flabbergasted (in a good way).

Worth dropping them a line.

[10:34] Rosco Teardrop: or music makes a crap film have some merit[10:35] Rosco Teardrop: cherting

[10:35] Lainy Voom: Yeah I agree totally with all these comments

[10:35] GToon Jun: http://magnatune.com/artists/albums/solace-ahsas/
http://magnatune.com/artists/albums/solace-ahsas/http://magnatune.com/artists/albums/solace-ahsas/


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[10:36] Beans Canning: thanks Ricky

[10:36] GToon Jun: Here is the link to Ahsas album by Solace

[10:36] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: aww they rock

[10:36] Beans Canning: I'm sorry to go on about Lainy's film Kickwhen some of you might not have seen it

[10:36] GToon Jun: Magnatune is really a great place for music. Somerecent classical music added is wonderful. Chopin, Brahms

[10:37] Beans Canning: but the way the music works for that filmreminds me so much of how this one came together

[10:37] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: no its good beans it makes those whohavent wanna refrence it

[10:37] Beans Canning: the music is more thna just a tune, it ispart of the meaning of the piece

[10:38] GToon Jun: BTW Lainy's website is[10:38] GToon Jun: http://www.voom-machine.com/[10:39] GToon Jun: Lainy, I know most people here are aware of yourfilm career, but can you tell us a little about your background as afilmmaker?

[10:39] Sol Bartz: And I'll go ahead and mention that this film isup at Machiniplex too: http://www.machiniplex.net/?id=34 Streaming in

good quality there, and three HQ download types. The WMV is Lainy'soriginal encode and probably the best quality of the three.

[10:39] GToon Jun: Thanks, Sol

[10:39] Pooky Amsterdam: wonderful Sol thank you!

[10:40] Lainy Voom: As a Machinimist? I started in late 2004 when Isaw that the Sims2 came with a record function. Then when I bought acomputer good enough to run Second Life, I came in here and was inlove immediately, that was Feb 2007


[10:40] GToon Jun: What drew you into machinima filmmaking?

[10:40] Rosco Teardrop: did you make filmns before machinima?

[10:40] Pooky Amsterdam: remarkable platform yes


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[10:41] Lainy Voom: I used to make crappy flash films from about2000 onwards, but they were pretty crappy.[10:41] Lainy Voom: I don't know what made me stick with Machinima,I guess being able to tell visual stories in a 3d space[10:41] Lainy Voom: something about 3 dimensions I really love

[10:41] GToon Jun: Were you a fan of animation?

[10:41] Lainy Voom: being able to walk around a scene

[10:41] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: agreed

[10:42] Lainy Voom: Yeah Ive always loved animations

[10:42] GToon Jun: Who are some of the filmmakers that haveinfluenced you?

[10:42] Lainy Voom: Machinima?

[10:42] GToon Jun: any

[10:43] Lainy Voom: My favourite Machinimists are Tom Jantol (whouses Motion Builder I think?)http://www.vimeo.com/788006and Daniel Wasiluk (who uses World of Warcraft)http://www.vimeo.com/1311788My fave SL Machinimist would be Pierce.P with Game Over and 60seconds to Tank
http://www.vimeo.com/788006http://www.vimeo.com/1311788http://www.vimeo.com/788006http://www.vimeo.com/1311788


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http://www.youtube.com/user/piercep#p/u/12/MQPlZGR7hp0They take influences from traditional animation and not video cultureor cinema culture, which are the categories that most Machinima,generally as a whole, would fall into.I like these guys because they do their own thing, and they do itwith great technical skill and panache. They seem to have somethingto communicate, which goes outside of wanting to be popular orwhatever. When I watch their films I get the feeling that they arecraftsmen, tinkering away at their craft (if that makes any sense).

My favourite mach films would probably be "The Days After" fromApollo or "Anna", which I think are just perfect films.http://www.youtube.com/user/albi84#p/a/u/1/7SuYWoEm-Nw

[10:44] Lainy Voom: I love the Cohen brothers too!

[10:44] GToon Jun: Those are filmmakers I admire too and for most ofthe same reasons[10:44] GToon Jun: BTW, I received an email from Daniel recently

[10:45] Sol Bartz: If any of you haven't seen Pierce Portecarrero's"Game Over" from a few years ago, it's some really wonderful use ofSL. Totally unique.

[10:45] GToon Jun: he's been going through hard times and wanted meto know that he still plans

[10:45] GToon Jun: on putting together a new film in the future

[10:45] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: awww

[10:45] Lainy Voom: Yeah hel get there Im sure

[10:45] Pooky Amsterdam: great

[10:45] GToon Jun: he sent me some short bits which were marvelous

[10:46] Beans Canning: how much did the machinima community play a

part in you wanting to keep involved in film making?

[10:46] GToon Jun: About Second Life, Lainy; what was it that drewyou away from Sims 2 into SL?[10:46] GToon Jun: go ahead with Beans first if you like

[10:46] Lainy Voom: k[10:46] Lainy Voom: I guess it played a big part Beans, I remembergetting my first review on my first movie and being hooked ever since
http://www.youtube.com/user/piercep#p/u/12/MQPlZGR7hp0http://www.youtube.com/user/albi84#p/a/u/1/7SuYWoEm-Nwhttp://www.youtube.com/user/piercep#p/u/12/MQPlZGR7hp0http://www.youtube.com/user/albi84#p/a/u/1/7SuYWoEm-Nw


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[10:47] Lainy Voom: That was Gala/Tams btw[10:47] Lainy Voom: :D[10:47] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: whoot

[10:47] Gala Charron: :D

[10:47] GToon Jun: He he

[10:47] Beans Canning: I didn't know that!

[10:47] Lainy Voom: It was really the first time Id ever made aconnection on the internet, before I was using it to watch, ratherthan be a part of[10:47] Lainy Voom: Yeah I always remember my first review

[10:48] GToon Jun: By the way, everyone..feel free to ask questionsor comment as this session is more open ended than other premiere'swe've had.

[10:48] Lainy Voom: In answer to Gtoon, I'd really outgrown Sims2after about a year, it wouldnt do what I wanted it to do,

[10:49] GToon Jun: So what led you to SL?

[10:49] Sol Bartz: Yeah, I'm curious what first drew your attentionto its potential.

[10:49] Lainy Voom: I'd been curious since early 2006 but I couldntget it to work on my old system

[10:50] Lainy Voom: I walked about for a bout 2 weeks not reallygetting it, then I left it for about a month and when I went backdecided to film something, then I understood it's potential

[10:50] Pooky Amsterdam: the tech waited for you to be ready for it

[10:50] Lainy Voom: I jsut thought "crikey, I can do anything,anything, wow"

[10:50] Beans Canning: I remeber when you worked out you could makethe lighting do more than you thought

[10:50] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: wicked

[10:50] Psyche Foxclaw is Online

[10:50] Beans Canning: a LOT of observing[10:51] Beans Canning: and absorbing

[10:51] Lainy Voom: I tend to observe a lot in life, rather than


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taking part, more an observer I guess

[10:52] Sol Bartz: I remember when I first saw Midnight City, that'swhen *I* first started to realize SL's potential.

[10:52] GToon Jun: Which makes me very grateful that you came to thePremiere today! thank you, Lainy

[10:52] Lainy Voom: np!

[10:52] Beans Canning: amazing film

[10:52] Pooky Amsterdam: that SL ah ha moment is somethg none of usforgets


[10:52] Lainy Voom: agreed too

[10:52] GToon Jun: Hey, would everyone like to watch the film again?

[10:53] Pooky Amsterdam: APPLAUDS! wonderfula nd a real treat to beable to see it wiht you Lainy

[10:53] Lainy Voom: liek a ueurika moment

[10:53] Pooky Amsterdam: yesp

[10:53] Gala Charron: Yes

[10:53] Sol Bartz: Aside: Another link of note: Wagner James Au (NewWorld Notes blog) covered this film:http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2009/07/weekend-machinima.html

[10:53] Sol Bartz: (Push, I mean)

[10:53] Pooky Amsterdam: thank you!

[10:53] GToon Jun: Thanks, wanted to mention that, too. goodcomments there. Also available on Mplex

[10:53] Sol Bartz: He's called attention to a number of Lainy'sfilms, the first being Midnight I believe, and I know he loved DumbMan.

[10:54] Pooky Amsterdam: Hamlet has good taste - he loves Lainy'swork[10:54] Phaylen Fairchild is Online
http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2009/07/weekend-machinima.htmlhttp://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2009/07/weekend-machinima.html


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[10:54] GToon Jun: Ok why don't why have another look at this veryintersting film.

[10:54] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: i liked dumb man too

[10:54] GToon Jun: Just hit your old play key

[10:54] Rohan Fermi: and 'Fall'

[10:54] Peachy Ballyhoo: They are all among the best machinima hasto offer

[10:54] Beans Canning: the shadows make a difference

PUSH is screened a 2nd time

[10:54] Pooky Amsterdam: brilliant

[10:55] Sol Bartz: Absolutely. Fall is gorgeous.

[10:55] Lainy Voom: I don't personally like fall, its my leastfavourite film

[10:55] Sol Bartz: Hah, I just love that sheep shearing scene.

[10:55] Pooky Amsterdam: this is such a great film

[10:55] Gala Charron: that my favorite part as well

[10:55] Rosco Teardrop: when I first saw Push, I wasnt even thinkingabout SL, just amazed. Most machinima scream awful game engine

[10:55] Rohan Fermi: brilliant work with SL , that masters to workaround the 'weak' parts of it

[10:56] Lainy Voom: what would you say were the week parts Rohan?

[10:56] Rohan Fermi: amd shows it's potential

[10:56] Pooky Amsterdam: there are no weak parts in this film

[10:56] Lainy Voom: facial movements are a major projbem with sl

[10:56] Peachy Ballyhoo: SL weak parts

[10:56] Pooky Amsterdam: BRAVO!!!!!!!!!

[10:56] Beans Canning: weak parts of the engine


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[10:56] Rosco Teardrop: this could ber a long list

[10:56] Pooky Amsterdam: BRAVO!!!!!

[10:56] Gala Charron: bravo

[10:56] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: *****APPPPPPPLLLLAAAUUUSSSSEEEEEEE***********

[10:56] Sol Bartz: Rik Riel (another SL blogger) said he couldhardly believe Push was made in SL, because it was just so good.

[10:56] Rohan Fermi: the standard animations, walking

[10:57] GToon Jun: I agree. This is one of those films thattranscend the game engine it was made in

[10:57] Beans Canning: I'm always amazed at how Lainy makes any

engine look

[10:57] Lainy Voom: you can buy walk animations though[10:57] Lainy Voom: speach still looks a bit crappy

[10:57] Beans Canning: I think you pay so much attention to textures

[10:57] GToon Jun: Most personal vision films do that because thedirectors tend to see the engine as a means to an end creatively

[10:57] Rohan Fermi: yes you can do it but most filmmakers don't

[10:57] GToon Jun: I love how the film just starts

[10:57] Love Perfferle: variable fps in SL is the biggest challengereally - can ruin a shot

[10:58] Pooky Amsterdam: flying turning into a dragon breathing firecheck check- turnign a doorknob? Fugedabloutit

[10:58] GToon Jun: no credits no fancy crap

[10:58] Lainy Voom: true Rohan I agree

[10:58] Sol Bartz: http://www.rikomatic.com/blog/2009/10/premiere-of-push-trippy-visionary-machinima-film-by-lainy-voom-on-october-25.html

[10:58] GToon Jun: too many machinimas have Hollywood style creditsthat ruin the film before it begins
http://www.rikomatic.com/blog/2009/10/premiere-of-push-trippy-visionary-machinima-film-by-lainy-voom-on-october-25.htmlhttp://www.rikomatic.com/blog/2009/10/premiere-of-push-trippy-visionary-machinima-film-by-lainy-voom-on-october-25.htmlhttp://www.rikomatic.com/blog/2009/10/premiere-of-push-trippy-visionary-machinima-film-by-lainy-voom-on-october-25.htmlhttp://www.rikomatic.com/blog/2009/10/premiere-of-push-trippy-visionary-machinima-film-by-lainy-voom-on-october-25.htmlhttp://www.rikomatic.com/blog/2009/10/premiere-of-push-trippy-visionary-machinima-film-by-lainy-voom-on-october-25.htmlhttp://www.rikomatic.com/blog/2009/10/premiere-of-push-trippy-visionary-machinima-film-by-lainy-voom-on-october-25.html


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[10:58] Sol Bartz: lol, he said the same thing about Stolen Child.And I agree.[10:58] Lainy Voom: Im too lazy to do credits

[10:58] GToon Jun: PUSH just starts...well, pushing, right from theget go

[10:58] Beans Canning: aww i like hollywood credits[10:58] Beans Canning: specially when thy catch fire ?smiles ?

[10:58] GToon Jun: But... the credits at the end are wonderful

[10:59] Rohan Fermi: this film can easily go into any animationfestival, have you thought about an entry ?

[10:59] GToon Jun: clean clear and in the style of the rest of thefilm

[10:59] Lainy Voom: Push has problems with bad fps on the sky scenes

[10:59] Rohan Fermi: I guess Tom Jantol didi that with success

[10:59] Lainy Voom: variable fps is a problem

[10:59] Peachy Ballyhoo: Are all these shorts building to a biggerproject?

[11:00] Lainy Voom: I've kind of got in my head where I want to bein about 5 movies time, but no plans for a big project

[11:00] Lainy Voom: more development aims really[11:00] Lainy Voom: trying to get better

[11:00] GToon Jun: Lainy, all of your films seem to be "personalvisions" meaning they are efforts to express your feelings our ideas

[11:00] Pooky Amsterdam: wow great and we are really so lucky tomake this journey wiht you too to see it

[11:00] GToon Jun: why aren't more machinima directors working likethis?

[11:00] Pooky Amsterdam: well ther eis only one Lainy Voom

[11:01] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: aww

[11:01] GToon Jun: Of course[11:01] GToon Jun: but why aren't there more experimental films[11:01] GToon Jun: personal visions[11:01] GToon Jun: personal poetry


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[11:01] Beans Canning: I think there's a lot of cannibalism withworld of machinima

[11:01] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: too many work inside the box

[11:01] GToon Jun: poetic imagery in machinima

[11:01] Beans Canning: instead of inspired by, more attempts to copy

[11:01] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: do whats expected

[11:01] Lainy Voom: I have a deap rooted need to communicate Iguess?

[11:02] Beans Canning: sounds like an artist

[11:02] Rohan Fermi: most is still 'inside out' Machinima

[11:02] Lainy Voom: Which is one of the reasons I couldnt talk inchat today, because written word and visual imagery Im quite good atcommunicating but verbally I have a problem thinking and talking atthe same time

[11:02] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: awww

[11:02] Lainy Voom: So in groups of people I find it difficult toexpress myself successfully, but through film, and the internet Ifeel I can communicate

[11:02] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: right on

[11:03] Lainy Voom: That is what is ultimately driving me I guess

[11:03] GToon Jun: Ah...just what I was going to ask

[11:03] Sol Bartz: Just throwing this out there, but maybe noteveryone's personal visions take them out of "the box"? Maybe theyignore the box as well, but it's just where they land?

[11:03] Pooky Amsterdam: isn't where we ladn in the nature of thestory we wish to tell

[11:03] Beans Canning: some people are naturally more mainstream?

[11:04] Pooky Amsterdam: like" is it raining?" was certainly Jorge'stake on somehign important to him

[11:04] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: it depeds who u create 4


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[11:04] Pooky Amsterdam: and the great thign is we all create suchdifferent thngs

[11:04] Pooky Amsterdam: we shouldnt all create the same - we arentthe borg

[11:04] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: thats a good thing[11:04] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: agreed[11:05] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: lol

[11:05] Lainy Voom: yep

[11:05] Rohan Fermi: I guess more will jump out of the box in thefuture[11:05] Beans Canning: maybe, maybe not[11:05] Beans Canning: I ma so grateful wehn people do

[11:05] Love Perfferle: why is always 'a box'? Joke

[11:05] GToon Jun: There are some specific images in PUSH I'd liketo ask you about

[11:05] Sol Bartz: I can only speak with certainty about myself...but, yes I think i am. It's where I land. I could work for four yearsand NEVER create something that looked like this. It's just not whereI'm pulled.

[11:05] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: they may just pop out an suprise ya

[11:05] Rohan Fermi: with inspiring examples like 'Push' maybe morepeople get interested to finmd their own machinima style andexpression

[11:06] Lainy Voom: why would you want to try phil, you already haveyour own style

[11:06] Sol Bartz: And I think someone going outside the box for theSAKE of going outside the box is just as disingenuous as someonestaying in it for equally artificial reasons.

[11:06] GToon Jun: Styles of creating: working in a different waywill produce a different result[11:06] GToon Jun: Lainy decided to work with brain unplugged. Justcreate it without analyzing it

[11:06] Sol Bartz: Yeah, I don't want to, I'm cool with it. I'm justhappy I get to see someone else go there, because I wouldn't have aclue! :)


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[11:06] Beans Canning: I also appreciate those people who subsumetheir style and let the characters speak

[11:06] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: any artist should just enter theirzone an go with their flow imho

[11:07] GToon Jun: Another way is to control everything and fit ittogether

[11:07] Beans Canning: it is a different reaction

[11:07] GToon Jun: reaction is the right work, I think, Beans

[11:07] Lainy Voom: I did switch off my left side of brain, which iswhy it feels a little dreamlike I think

[11:07] GToon Jun: reacting to what?

[11:07] Pooky Amsterdam: its such a great film

[11:07] GToon Jun: to the material in your head? The images? Thefeeling you want to express?

[11:07] Lainy Voom: It was the same feeling of zoning when someonepaints or creates music

[11:07] GToon Jun: Images: so where did the monkeys come from, Lainy

[11:08] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: right on

[11:08] GToon Jun: Zone Machinima

[11:08] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: loves the zone

[11:08] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: hehe

[11:08] Love Perfferle: interesting Lainy, I try to use the samesensitibity I developed as a musician an dlook for that feeling whenI am making films

[11:08] Sol Bartz: I'm losing track of the conversation a bit....all I wanted to say was, I think that some films with land inside thesocially constructed "box" are wholly personal / unplugged visions aswell. I guess I think the box is B.S., but I don't know.

[11:08] Lainy Voom: It was exactly the same feeling as drawing apicture, of zoning out


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[11:10] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: evolution

[11:10] Beans Canning: all the lines that people have drawn

[11:10] Lainy Voom: yeah

[11:10] Beans Canning: animals are this, humans are that

[11:10] Lainy Voom: its the human ape

[11:10] Beans Canning: get wiped away one by one

[11:10] Lainy Voom: eating and crapping and reproducing

[11:10] GToon Jun: Leaving the end of the film as a man with a skullfading into the sky

[11:11] Sol Bartz: I found the use of human apes particularly

interesting juxtaposed against the human-machine creatures.[11:11] GToon Jun: how did you decide on the ending?[11:11] GToon Jun: Yes, true, Sol

[11:11] Beans Canning: yeah interesting thought sol

[11:11] Lainy Voom: can you elaborate sol?

[11:11] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: well some people in society currentlytake on those characteristics some act like cave men the othersrobots

[11:12] Lainy Voom: I guess it feels we are chained to time, and weare closer to our ancestors than we care to think we are?

[11:12] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: but not everyone

[11:12] Lainy Voom: and we are moving to a digical mechanical future[11:12] Lainy Voom: where we are, where we have come from, where weare going[11:12] Lainy Voom: I think

[11:12] Sol Bartz: I have no idea what it meant, just found it veryinteresting imagery. Animal and machinery (technology) seem likethey're on opposite vectors. Was interesting to see those images atplay on the screen.

[11:13] Pooky Amsterdam: and the clocks of time ticking

[11:13] Rohan Fermi: maybe we are more on teh road back to stome age;)


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[11:13] Rohan Fermi: stone age ;)

[11:13] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: i loved the use of time

[11:13] Lainy Voom: maybe we are

[11:13] Pooky Amsterdam: evo or devo? evolution or devolution

[11:13] Beans Canning: I loved the female character swimming throughtime on the clock[11:14] Beans Canning: and the attempt to hold back time, with make-up etc

[11:14] Pooky Amsterdam: lol


[11:14] Beans Canning: it was an asonishing image, the skull

/lipstick[11:14] Beans Canning: astonishing

[11:14] Sol Bartz: YEEEAAAAHH!!![11:14] Sol Bartz: Speaking of makeup, wasn't that image of theskull woman about .... that one!

[11:15] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: it just reaches your subconcious onso many levels

[11:15] Rohan Fermi: that amazing about teh fim that it leads to so

many trails for interpretation

[11:15] Poid Mahovlich is Online

[11:15] Pooky Amsterdam: its so great the kind of film you wan ttowatch 100 times

[11:15] GToon Jun: so true, Wytch

[11:15] Lainy Voom: jsut like a dream then?

[11:15] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: yeah i love it

[11:15] Beans Canning: more concetrated than a dream

[11:15] Rohan Fermi: so anyone can watch his/her won film in somesense[11:15] Beans Canning: a visual poem

[11:15] Pooky Amsterdam: better theme music too


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[11:17] GToon Jun: so if we stop time we stop death

[11:17] Beans Canning: & life

[11:18] Lainy Voom: interesting thoughts

[11:18] Pooky Amsterdam: yes we dont 'die" we just timeout........permanently

[11:18] GToon Jun: theres the rub

[11:18] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: but if u stop living u die

[11:18] Beans Canning: I loved the long armed thing

[11:18] Rohan Fermi: if time stops we live forever

[11:18] Beans Canning: seemed ot be drumming along with music

[11:18] Pooky Amsterdam: or die forever

[11:18] GToon Jun: Getting all of this down, Lainy[11:18] GToon Jun: ?

[11:18] Lainy Voom: do we live in stasis? if time stops

[11:18] Rohan Fermi: depends if you are optimist or pessimist ;)

[11:19] GToon Jun: Philip K. Dick is an author who deals with time

as a theme

[11:19] Beans Canning: any piece of art represents a monet intime[11:19] Beans Canning: moment

[11:19] Pooky Amsterdam: can you say look Im just going ot assumeits 12 noon now for the rest ofmy life I dont care what anyoen says

[11:19] Poid Mahovlich is Offline[11:19] Peachy Ballyhoo is Offline

[11:19] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: is living in stasis being anobserver?

[11:19] GToon Jun: You'd like his UBIK or Man in the High Castle

[11:19] Poid Mahovlich is Online

[11:19] Lainy Voom: Observing changes someone ?


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[11:19] GToon Jun: I think many artists/writers are observers andthey don't live in stasis

[11:20] Beans Canning: yes it is one of thsoe starnge physical laws

[11:20] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: observing can change personal reality

[11:20] Love Perfferle: Observing changes - it is a rule of quantumreality that we live in

[11:20] Lainy Voom: very true

[11:20] Beans Canning: observing can chang ehte thing observed

[11:20] GToon Jun: Mmmnnn...

[11:20] Love Perfferle: technicaly it is the collapse of the quantumwave

[11:20] Rohan Fermi: 'nothing is real' - the beatles

[11:20] Pooky Amsterdam: is it raining?

[11:21] GToon Jun: Lainy in the sky with diamonds

[11:21] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: loves rain

[11:21] Sol Bartz: lo

[11:21] Beans Canning: but having observed something we no longerknow what it is, because it has changed

[11:21] Lainy Voom: is culture real, or just culture?

[11:21] Rohan Fermi: :)

[11:21] GToon Jun: Culture is the Denial of Death

[11:21] Beans Canning: back to the rianing film, can we sharerealities

[11:21] Beans Canning: Jorge's film

[11:22] Pooky Amsterdam: *nods*

[11:22] Sol Bartz: Can I have some LSD too please? (lol)

[11:22] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: well our realities are all defined byour interpretation of observations


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[11:22] GToon Jun: heehe

[11:22] Sol Bartz: ;)


[11:22] Lainy Voom: you are inside the box sol, inside the box :Plol

[11:22] Rohan Fermi: take some Machinima, Sol

[11:22] Lainy Voom: Im joking btw

[11:22] Sol Bartz: I know.[11:22] Sol Bartz: But I am. LOL

[11:22] Pooky Amsterdam: the box is round

[11:22] Sol Bartz: I'm quite comfy too. ;)


[11:23] Lainy Voom: what is the view like though?

[11:23] Beans Canning: so some profund stuff

[11:23] Lainy Voom: :{P

[11:23] GToon Jun: Why don't we come back to PUSH for a minute

[11:23] Beans Canning: I flet a tremendous sense of freedom watchingthis film

[11:23] GToon Jun: I have to ask; what tools did you use to make thefilm and what did you spend the $50 on?

[11:23] Beans Canning: like my boundaries shifted

[11:23] Jondolarr Larsson is Online

[11:23] Lainy Voom: I was so scared of releasing it[11:23] Lainy Voom: stab in the dark

[11:23] GToon Jun: Scared?

[11:23] Beans Canning: beer?

[11:23] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: why lainy its wonderful


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[11:23] Lainy Voom: it defo went on beer

[11:24] Pooky Amsterdam: it relaly is


[11:24] Lainy Voom: It could have gone horribly wrong though, therewas no way of telling

[11:24] Beans Canning: you think there's a risk

[11:24] Rohan Fermi: glad you released it

[11:24] Beans Canning: doing something new

[11:24] Pooky Amsterdam: you hve to be brave to be an artist

[11:24] GToon Jun: Isn't that the risk you take as an artist? Goinghorribly wrong

[11:24] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: hmmm its always hardest to reale artthat speaks of u so much personally i find myself

[11:24] Pooky Amsterdam: or one is brave in being so as your workdoesnt exist in avacumn

[11:24] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: releses*

[11:24] Beans Canning: bits of you you don't necessarily know about

[11:25] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: 8is too tired to spell*

[11:25] Sol Bartz: @Beans exactly.

[11:25] Pooky Amsterdam: unless of course you are kafka and doenthtink your wife will publish after you die

[11:25] Sol Bartz: "Did I just make that?"

[11:25] Lainy Voom: yeah thats true beans

[11:25] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: lol pooky

[11:25] Lainy Voom: lol[11:26] Lainy Voom: Yeah i think that too sol,[11:26] Lainy Voom: Like, where the f did that come from

[11:26] Pooky Amsterdam: what have tyou hearned about the film Lainy


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through othe peoples comments?

[11:26] Pooky Amsterdam: if anything tha tis

[11:26] GToon Jun: Great question Pook

[11:26] Lainy Voom: Thats so difficult to answer!

[11:26] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: i agree

[11:27] Lainy Voom: I guess, I feel that the part of me that Iunconsciouly chose to show people, some people genrally understoodsomething[11:27] Lainy Voom: about me

[11:27] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: aww yay

[11:27] Lainy Voom: because this film feels like lifting the lid on

my head and peering inside, I see myself in this film, in a mirror[11:28] Rosco Teardrop: it does tell more about you, in so unique afilm

[11:28] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: is proud of u 4 sharing

[11:28] Lainy Voom: but there is some vulnerability in showingyourself

[11:28] Pooky Amsterdam: always

[11:28] Beans Canning: yes indeed

[11:28] Lainy Voom: like other art


[11:28] Beans Canning: risk being rejected[11:28] Beans Canning: a very vulnerable part

[11:28] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: an judjed

[11:28] Lainy Voom: yeah

[11:28] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: judged*


[11:29] Pooky Amsterdam: but we do it- we all do it and why I saythere is bravery in i too


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[11:29] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: sod that! if they do that they cansuck eggs imho

[11:29] Beans Canning: I ma always amazed how much film-makers caninvest into their work

[11:30] Rohan Fermi: gues one have to risk something to get thechance to 'win'

[11:30] Beans Canning: in this film it is obvious

[11:30] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: agreed rohan

[11:30] Lainy Voom: yeah i agree Rohan

[11:30] Beans Canning: what do you win?

[11:30] Sol Bartz: Cookies.

[11:30] Lainy Voom: understanding?

[11:30] Gala Charron: lol

[11:30] Love Perfferle: risk / reward is a better phrase perhaps

[11:30] Rosco Teardrop: good q beans, what do you want to win,Lainy?

[11:30] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: lol communication bridges many things

[11:30] GToon Jun: It probably needs to be said that Lainy's body ofwork in machinima is a great inspiration to be more creative asfilmmakers

[11:30] Rohan Fermi: right reward

[11:31] Lainy Voom: understanding and connection

[11:31] Beans Canning: good one

[11:31] Sol Bartz: @GToon absolutely.

[11:31] Rosco Teardrop: very important, is that what drives youthen?

[11:31] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: i agree lainy

[11:31] Lainy Voom: yes it drives me at a deap level


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[11:31] Lainy Voom: deep

[11:31] GToon Jun: I probably wouldn't be doing this if it weren'tfor filmmakers like Lainy

[11:31] Rohan Fermi: big 'applause' again

[11:31] Beans Canning: & many of us also i would think?

[11:31] Lainy Voom: its probalby why ive stuck at it for 4 years,most of my hobbies last 3 months

[11:32] Peachy Ballyhoo: I agree

[11:32] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: thats awesome

[11:32] Pooky Amsterdam: its more than a hobby isnt it? its apassion full on no stops

[11:32] Beans Canning: the boundaries of card-making were easier toreach :P

[11:32] Rosco Teardrop: do you know how much your work inspires somany of us?

[11:32] GToon Jun: Excactly Pooky

[11:32] Lainy Voom: I have a lot of card making equipment goingspare beans :D

[11:33] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: neg self talk lies to u

[11:33] GToon Jun: :d

[11:33] Beans Canning: fantastic, I'll send you an envelope

[11:33] Pooky Amsterdam: time might have a stop but passion doesnt-it inspires - For small constructions may be finished by their firstarchtects- grand ones - true ones ever leave the copestone toposterity- god help me from ever completing anything " Melville

[11:33] Rohan Fermi: it's good to know not to have to walk alone

[11:33] Lainy Voom: youl need a house moving van for it all kate

[11:33] Beans Canning: lol



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[11:33] GToon Jun: Ah, Melville.

[11:34] Pooky Amsterdam: my fave quote

[11:34] Lainy Voom: Cool words

[11:34] Sol Bartz: I'm picturing this old Gutenberg style cardpress.

[11:34] Lainy Voom: oi![11:34] Lainy Voom: :P[11:34] Lainy Voom: only joking

[11:34] Winter Thorn is Online

[11:34] Pooky Amsterdam: graphics cards?

[11:34] Lainy Voom: birthday cards

[11:34] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: this is getting graphic

[11:34] Sol Bartz: lol WW

[11:34] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: lol jk:P

[11:34] GToon Jun: Sorry to be a pest: but what are the tools youused to make PUSH, Lainy?

[11:35] Lainy Voom: fraps and vegas

[11:35] GToon Jun: no photoshop?

[11:35] Lainy Voom: no[11:35] Lainy Voom: ?


[11:35] Lainy Voom: oh hang on, deviant art for some textures

[11:35] GToon Jun: What is SL like to create machinima in?

[11:35] Beans Canning: almost no video filters either, which amazedme

[11:36] Lainy Voom: no post prodding

[11:36] GToon Jun: ah, fast and lean, eh?

[11:36] Aebleskiver Thibedeau is Offline


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[11:36] Lainy Voom: I guess?

[11:37] GToon Jun: Do you plan on using the no-thining method youused in PUSH for films in the future?[11:37] GToon Jun: no-thinking , that is[11:37] GToon Jun: or rather jazz method probably better term

[11:37] Lainy Voom: I dont think it will work, it only workedbecause of that creative spurt thing[11:37] Lainy Voom: you cant force that type of thing

[11:37] Sol Bartz: (She probably didn't "plan" to do it this timeeither)

[11:38] GToon Jun: Is every project different for you in terms ofhow it comes about?

[11:38] Beans Canning: yes[11:38] Beans Canning: we've done 1 1/2 hours

[11:38] Lainy Voom: the dumb man or stolen child, im following somerules of the narrative, but usually i work organically[11:38] Lainy Voom: just start with something and let it grow kindof intuitevely

[11:38] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: loves working organicly

[11:39] Lainy Voom: so most things dont work out

[11:39] GToon Jun: How did you begin work on PUSH? First image, etc

[11:39] Lainy Voom: I listened to rohan's interview today andnoticed you had said a similar thing rohan?[11:39] Lainy Voom: most films dont get finished?

[11:40] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: picasso used to go back an forthbetween his paintins so he iddnt overwork them

[11:40] Aebleskiver Thibedeau is Online

[11:40] Rohan Fermi: Some kind of evolutionary approach of ideas

[11:40] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: rather than focusing on just 1

[11:40] Lainy Voom: interesting

[11:40] GToon Jun: So, tell us about what's coming up next for you,Lainy.


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[11:40] Rohan Fermi: recognized you are using a similar approachthats interesting

[11:41] Lainy Voom: I'm working on another poem next[11:41] Sol Bartz: Cool

[11:41] Rosco Teardrop: looking forward to it

[11:42] Lainy Voom: Has some new challenges

[11:42] Beans Canning: yes indeed

[11:42] Rohan Fermi: and what you said about that creative spurtthat drives the final process is what I#m familiar with as well

[11:42] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: u can do anything u set your mind too

[11:42] GToon Jun: Oh, quick question, how do you recommend someonestart making machinima in SL.? How to start?

[11:42] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: that my encouragement 4 today[11:42] Jade Angkarn is Online

[11:43] GToon Jun: Thank you, Wytc

[11:43] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: uvw

[11:43] Rosco Teardrop passes wytch the pom poms


[11:43] GToon Jun: Anyone can answer

[11:43] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: go guys go!

[11:43] Lainy Voom: grab fraps then just find something you feelinspired to film?

[11:43] GToon Jun: Ok. Sounds good to me

[11:44] GToon Jun: BTW, we have a much larger amount of SL entriesfor the Expo this year[11:44] GToon Jun: Higher quality

[11:44] Beans Canning: lots of really good work comeing out of sl

[11:44] Rosco Teardrop: SL is maturing as an engine, and reachingoutside of the box...the SL box


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[11:44] GToon Jun: Part of the reason I'll be spending more timethere next year

[11:44] Rohan Fermi: watch Lainy's fils and others as an inspiration

[11:44] GToon Jun: good advice Rohan

[11:44] Rohan Fermi: and don't be scared at all

[11:44] Pooky Amsterdam: finally

[11:44] Beans Canning: feel the fear and do it anyway

[11:44] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: whoot[11:45] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: just jump!

[11:45] GToon Jun: Ok. That about wraps up (I was going to say Frapsup) the Premiere today

[11:45] Beans Canning: lol

[11:45] Lainy Voom: thank you so much for coming

[11:45] Rosco Teardrop: and really, it cant be that bad, have youseen how much crap ther is anyway :)

[11:45] GToon Jun: For those of you who want to hang around and chatsome more feel free

[11:45] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: ive frapped myself


[11:45] Pooky Amsterdam: oh I love that- great title for a weeklymachinima show

[11:45] GToon Jun: My thanks to Hathead for providing this lovelyspace/theatre

[11:45] Peachy Ballyhoo: thank you for the great talk

[11:45] Rosco Teardrop: lol, painful

[11:45] GToon Jun: You are the best, Hathead

[11:45] Pooky Amsterdam: "Fraps it Up" with your host Gtoon

[11:45] Lainy Voom: and thanks for having me Ricky


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[11:45] Beans Canning: you did a wonderful job lainy, thank you

[11:45] Gala Charron: Applause

[11:45] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: was great u guys ty

[11:45] Sol Bartz: Thank you for taking this time, Lainy.

[11:45] Pooky Amsterdam: APPLAUDS

[11:46] Beans Canning: `*..* APPLAUSE `*..*APPLAUSE `*..*

[11:46] GToon Jun: And to Phil for getting the encode up on Mplexand for help in preparation

[11:46] Pooky Amsterdam: APPLAUDS

[11:46] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: ....? Applauds! ? ....

[11:46] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: ???? ? Applauds! ? ????[11:46] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: ....? Applauds! ? ....

[11:46] Love Perfferle: my pleasure

[11:46] Rohan Fermi: tnx HH, and Ricky fo

[11:46] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: ty HH

[11:46] Rosco Teardrop: thanks to all

[11:46] Pooky Amsterdam: thank you Lainy for your inspiring work

[11:46] GToon Jun: Lainy, I can't tell you how grateful I am thatyou came today. Really, deeply appreciate it.

[11:46] Pooky Amsterdam: Thank you GTOON & SOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[11:46] Lainy Voom: thank you hathead!

[11:46] Love Perfferle: :)

[11:46] Lainy Voom: and sol!

[11:46] Pooky Amsterdam: ty Hathead!

[11:46] GToon Jun: Just a note: Expo is on Nov 22, Sunday from 9amto 2pm Pacific time

[11:47] Rosco Teardrop: cant wait


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[11:47] GToon Jun: For those of you coming to the open house today,I'll be there at 12PM noon

[11:47] GToon Jun: That's the UCS island which is open to the publictoday.


[11:47] Pooky Amsterdam: all right

[11:47] GToon Jun: Here's the slurl

[11:47] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: slurl?

[11:47] GToon Jun: give me a minute


[11:48] GToon Jun: http://slurl.com/secondlife/UCSville/60/173/25/[11:48] Rohan Fermi: wehn is 12 pm

[11:48] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: ty G

[11:48] Love Perfferle: 10 minutes

[11:48] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: no pressure

[11:48] GToon Jun: 12pm Pacific Time. You'll have to translate toyoru time

[11:48] Rohan Fermi: ah ok, tnx :)

[11:48] Peachy Ballyhoo is Offline

[11:48] GToon Jun: Again, sincere thanks to Lainy. And to all whocame today

[11:48] Pooky Amsterdam: THANK YOU!

[11:49] Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: ty lainy

[11:49] Rohan Fermi: Thank you and good luck with your next films

[11:49] Love Perfferle is Offline

[11:49] Lainy Voom: thank you everyone!!![11:49] Lainy Voom: lots to think on

[11:49] GToon Jun: Take care everyone. We'll be archiving this


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conversation and posting it on mplex blog next week.

[11:49] GToon Jun: See you soon!


[11:50] Beans Canning: bye!

[11:50] Rosco Teardrop: ta gain, see you all next time

[11:50] Pooky Amsterdam: thank you and see you all soon!

[11:50] Gala Charron: Bye!

[11:50] Lainy Voom: and you

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