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National Fire Protection Association 1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169-7471 Phone: 617-770-3000 • Fax: 617-770-0700 • www.nfpa.org
MEMORANDUM
TO: NEC®
Correlating Committee FROM: Colleen Kelly, Administrator – Technical Projects DATE: April 7, 2015 SUBJ: REVISED NFPA 111 Proposed TIA No. 1175 PRELIMINARY FINAL CC BALLOT
RESULTS __________________________________________________________________________________ According to 5.4 in the NFPA Regs, the final results show this TIA HAS NOT achieved the ¾ majority vote needed on both Question 1 (Correlation Issues) and Question 2 (Emergency Nature). 12 Eligible to Vote 0 Not Returned Correlation Issues: Emergency Nature: 0 Abstentions 0 Abstentions 12 Agree (with comments; Holub, Johnston) 2 Agree 0 Disagree 10 Disagree (Brunssen, Bunker, Jr.,
Hickman, Hittinger, Holub, Johnston, Kovacik, LaBrake, Jr., Manche, Owen)
There are two criteria necessary to pass ballot [(1) affirmative 3/4 vote and (2) simple majority] with both questions needing to pass ballot in order to recommend that the Standards Council issues this TIA.
(1) The number of affirmative votes needed is 9.
(12 eligible to vote - 0 not returned - 0 abstentions = 12 × 0.75 = 9)
(2) In all cases, an affirmative vote of at least a simple majority of the total membership eligible to vote is required. This is the calculation for simple majority:
[12 eligible ÷ 2 = 6 + 1 = 7]
Preliminary final ballot comments are attached for your review. Ballots received from alternate members are not included, unless the ballot from the principal member was not received. Attachments: All Comments
CORRELATING COMMITTEE LETTER BALLOT
PROPOSED TENTATIVE INTERIM AMENDMENT LOG NO. 1175 To Revise Table 4.2.2 of the Proposed 2016 Edition of NFPA 111,
Standard on Stored Electrical Energy Emergency and Standby Power Systems
Question 1: I agree that there are no correlation issues in accordance with 3.4.2 and 3.4.3 (copy enclosed) of the NFPA Regs. _______X_____ AGREE ____________ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN* EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments: *An explanation must accompany a disagreement or abstaining position. If disagreeing, cite relevant section(s)/paragraph(s) of the correlation issue and describe. _ ____________________________________________________________________ There does not appear to be a correlation issue because it seems beyond scope to have to correlate with IEC standards. Section 5.2(b) provides that “The document contains a conflict within the document or with another NFPA document.” IEC 62040-3 is not an NFPA standard. While it is good to harmonize where possible with international standards it is not a requirement and appears to be beyond the scope of the TC and the CC. _____________________________________________________________________
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Question 2: I agree that the subject of this TIA is of an EMERGENCY NATURE. ____________ AGREE _______X_____ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN* EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments: *An explanation must accompany a negative/disagreement or abstaining position. _____________________________________________________________________ Section 5.2(b) provides that “The document contains a conflict within the document or with another NFPA document.” IEC 62040-3 is not an NFPA standard. Therefore it should not qualify as emergency in nature. This appears to be more appropriately handled as a proposed change (public input) to NFPA 111. _____________________________________________________________________
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Signature Michael J. Johnston Name (Please Print) Date: March 24, 2015
CORRELATING COMMITTEE LETTER BALLOT
PROPOSED TENTATIVE INTERIM AMENDMENT LOG NO. 1175
To Revise Table 4.2.2 of the Proposed 2016 Edition of NFPA 111,
Standard on Stored Electrical Energy Emergency and Standby Power Systems
Question 1: I agree that there are no correlation issues in accordance with 3.4.2 and 3.4.3 (copy
enclosed) of the NFPA Regs.
____X_______ AGREE ____________ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN*
EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments:
*An explanation must accompany a disagreement or abstaining position. If disagreeing, cite relevant
section(s)/paragraph(s) of the correlation issue and describe.
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Question 2: I agree that the subject of this TIA is of an EMERGENCY NATURE.
____________ AGREE ____X_______ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN*
EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments:
*An explanation must accompany a negative/disagreement or abstaining position.
I agree with Mr Manche (among others) that this does not qualify as an emergency since it
Does not appear to meet any of the criteria in Section 5.4
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Signature
Richard P. Owen_________________
Name (Please Print)
_March 22, 2015_________________
Date
Please return the ballot on or before Thursday, March 26, 2015
PLEASE RETURN TO:
Colleen Kelly, Project Administrator
NFPA
1 Batterymarch Park
Quincy, MA 02169 FAX: (617) 770-0700 E-mail: [email protected]
CORRELATING COMMITTEE LETTER BALLOT
PROPOSED TENTATIVE INTERIM AMENDMENT LOG NO. 1175 To Revise Table 4.2.2 of the Proposed 2016 Edition of NFPA 111,
Standard on Stored Electrical Energy Emergency and Standby Power Systems
Question 1: I agree that there are no correlation issues in accordance with 3.4.2 and 3.4.3 (copy enclosed) of the NFPA Regs. _____XX_____ AGREE ____________ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN* EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments: *An explanation must accompany a disagreement or abstaining position. If disagreeing, cite relevant section(s)/paragraph(s) of the correlation issue and describe. _____________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________________
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Question 2: I agree that the subject of this TIA is of an EMERGENCY NATURE. ____________ AGREE ____XX_______ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN* EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments: *An explanation must accompany a negative/disagreement or abstaining position. The TIA does not constitute an emergency nature. The Technical Committee considered all material provided which was based on a harmonization effort. There has been no supporting discussion that this TIA will “lessen a recognized hazard” created by this harmonization effort.
________________________________ Signature _Alan Manche______________________ Name (Please Print) ___March 26, 2015__________________ Date Please return the ballot on or before Thursday, March 26, 2015 PLEASE RETURN TO: Colleen Kelly, Project Administrator NFPA 1 Batterymarch Park Quincy, MA 02169 FAX: (617) 770-0700 E-mail: [email protected]
CORRELATING COMMITTEE LETTER BALLOT
PROPOSED TENTATIVE INTERIM AMENDMENT LOG NO. 1175 To Revise Table 4.2.2 of the Proposed 2016 Edition of NFPA 111,
Standard on Stored Electrical Energy Emergency and Standby Power Systems
Question 1: I agree that there are no correlation issues in accordance with 3.4.2 and 3.4.3 (copy enclosed) of the NFPA Regs. _____X_______ AGREE ____________ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN* EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments: *An explanation must accompany a disagreement or abstaining position. If disagreeing, cite relevant section(s)/paragraph(s) of the correlation issue and describe. _____________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________________
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Question 2: I agree that the subject of this TIA is of an EMERGENCY NATURE. ____________ AGREE _____X_______ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN* EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments: *An explanation must accompany a negative/disagreement or abstaining position. I agree with the TC members’ comments who disagree that this TIA is of an emergency nature. ____________________________________________________________________
Signature Neil F. LaBrake, Jr. - CC Principal, EEI rep. Name (Please Print) 25 March 2015 Date Please return the ballot on or before Thursday, March 26, 2015 PLEASE RETURN TO: Colleen Kelly, Project Administrator NFPA 1 Batterymarch Park Quincy, MA 02169 FAX: (617) 770-0700 E-mail: [email protected]
CORRELATING COMMITTEE LETTER BALLOT
PROPOSED TENTATIVE INTERIM AMENDMENT LOG NO. 1175 To Revise Table 4.2.2 of the Proposed 2016 Edition of NFPA 111,
Standard on Stored Electrical Energy Emergency and Standby Power Systems
Question 1: I agree that there are no correlation issues in accordance with 3.4.2 and 3.4.3 (copy enclosed) of the NFPA Regs. ______X______ AGREE ____________ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN* EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments: *An explanation must accompany a disagreement or abstaining position. If disagreeing, cite relevant section(s)/paragraph(s) of the correlation issue and describe. _____________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________________
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Question 2: I agree that the subject of this TIA is of an EMERGENCY NATURE. ____________ AGREE ______X______ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN* EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments: *An explanation must accompany a negative/disagreement or abstaining position. _____________________________________________________________________ I agree with the substantiation provided by Alan Manche in his negative ballot on
emergency nature.
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Signature John R. Kovacik__________________ Name (Please Print) March 25, 2015___________________ Date Please return the ballot on or before Thursday, March 26, 2015 PLEASE RETURN TO: Colleen Kelly, Project Administrator NFPA 1 Batterymarch Park Quincy, MA 02169 FAX: (617) 770-0700 E-mail: [email protected]
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Kelly, Colleen
From: David HittingerSent: Monday, March 23, 2015 10:49 AMTo: Larry AyerCc: Kelly, Colleen; Subject: Re: NFPA 111 TIA Log No. 1175 CC Ballot
Colleen Please use the voting ballot that Larry sent you to be used on behalf of IEC as our official ballot. Thank you, David Hittinger On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Larry Ayer wrote:
Please see attached.
From: Kelly, Colleen [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 9:50 AM To: Kelly, Colleen Subject: NFPA 111 TIA Log No. 1175 CC Ballot
Good morning, just a reminder that ballots on proposed TIA Log No. 1175 are due Thursday, March 26, 2015 before 11:59 PM Eastern. If you have already voted, please disregard this reminder, and thank you!
Colleen
From: Kelly, Colleen Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 1:39 PM To: Kelly, Colleen Cc: Mark Earley ([email protected]); Kimberly Shea ([email protected]); Foran, Rosanne; Foley, Patrick; Baio, Debbie; Fuller, Linda; Cronin, Carolyn Subject: FW: NFPA 111 TIA Log No. 1175 CC Ballot
NEC® Correlating Committee,
CORRELATING COMMITTEE LETTER BALLOT
PROPOSED TENTATIVE INTERIM AMENDMENT LOG NO. 1175 To Revise Table 4.2.2 of the Proposed 2016 Edition of NFPA 111,
Standard on Stored Electrical Energy Emergency and Standby Power Systems
Question 1: I agree that there are no correlation issues in accordance with 3.4.2 and 3.4.3 (copy enclosed) of the NFPA Regs. _________x___ AGREE ____________ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN* EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments: *An explanation must accompany a disagreement or abstaining position. If disagreeing, cite relevant section(s)/paragraph(s) of the correlation issue and describe. _____________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________________
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Question 2: I agree that the subject of this TIA is of an EMERGENCY NATURE. ____________ AGREE ___x_________ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN* EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments: *An explanation must accompany a negative/disagreement or abstaining position. I would have to agree with the comments made in Mr. Manche’s ballot as well as others. The criteria for an emergency in the regulations governing committee projects have not been met.
________________________________ Signature ________________________________ Name (Please Print) ________________________________ Date Please return the ballot on or before Thursday, March 26, 2015 PLEASE RETURN TO: Colleen Kelly, Project Administrator NFPA 1 Batterymarch Park Quincy, MA 02169 FAX: (617) 770-0700 E-mail: [email protected]
Larry Ayer
3-26-15
3.4.2 Authority. A CC shall direct the activities of the TCs that have primary responsibility for the development and revision of Documents assigned to them. The CC shall be responsible for resolving conflicts, achieving correlation among the recommendations of the TCs, correcting errors and omissions, and ensuring that the Committee activities have been conducted in accordance with these Regulations and any approved Supplemental Operating Procedures (see 3.3.8). The CC shall have the authority to choose between alternatives presented by the TCs and to write text, but only as necessary for correlation, consistency, and the correction of errors and omissions. 3.4.3 Responsibilities. The responsibilities of a CC are: (a) Resolving conflicts within or between Documents (b) Recommending the resolution of conflicts between, and overlapping functions in TC Scopes (c) Recommending the establishment of new or the discharging of existing TCs and proposing new Scopes or changes to existing Scopes of TCs (d) Recommending changes in membership to obtain or improve representation on a TC (e) Correlating the scheduling of the Reports from the TCs operating under its responsibility (f) Notifying a TC of its failure to comply with these Regulations or the Manual of Style (g) Determining whether or not the TC has given due consideration to all evidence presented to it in connection with the preparation of its Report including all comments relating to negative votes (h) Establishing Supplemental Operating Procedures, if desired (see 3.3.8) (i) Performing such other or different duties as the Council may from time to time assign
CORRELATING COMMITTEE LETTER BALLOT
PROPOSED TENTATIVE INTERIM AMENDMENT LOG NO. 1175
To Revise Table 4.2.2 of the Proposed 2016 Edition of NFPA 111,
Standard on Stored Electrical Energy Emergency and Standby Power Systems
Question 1: I agree that there are no correlation issues in accordance with 3.4.2 and 3.4.3 (copy
enclosed) of the NFPA Regs.
_____X_______ AGREE ____________ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN*
EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments:
*An explanation must accompany a disagreement or abstaining position. If disagreeing, cite relevant
section(s)/paragraph(s) of the correlation issue and describe.
_____________________________________________________________________
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Question 2: I agree that the subject of this TIA is of an EMERGENCY NATURE.
____________ AGREE _____X_______ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN*
EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments:
*An explanation must accompany a negative/disagreement or abstaining position.
The proposed TIA does not meet any of the criteria of Section 5.4 of the Regulations
Governing the Development of NFPA Standards to be considered of an emergency
nature._____________________________________________________________________
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Signature
_James E. Brunssen_______________
Name (Please Print)
_March 20, 2015__________________
Date
Please return the ballot on or before Thursday, March 26, 2015
PLEASE RETURN TO:
Colleen Kelly, Project Administrator
NFPA
1 Batterymarch Park
Quincy, MA 02169 FAX: (617) 770-0700 E-mail: [email protected]