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APPENDIX C
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MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS ASSESSMENT
EVENT 1, 10 October 2014 – WORLD MENTAL HEALTH DAY
EVENT REPORT
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ATTENDANCE
53 registered (14 of these did not attend)
54 attended on the day (15 of whom had not registered)
12 service users attended
5 carers attended
21 evaluation sheets completed
EVALUATION SUMMARY
How many agreed?
My time at this event has
been well spent
21/21
I would recommend a
similar event to my
colleagues
21/21
I felt I was able to
contribute my views and
experience today
20/21*
How would you rate the
various activities you have
participated in?
Good x 16
Excellent x 5
How would you rate the
facilitation of this afternoon’s
event?
Fair x 1
Good x 12
Excellent x 8
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Programme
Timing Description
1.30-1.35 Official welcome: - Cllr Fergus, Mental Health
Champion
1.35-1.40 Official welcome: - Peter Hewitt, Service User and
Involvement Representative, NELFT
1.40-1.50 The aims of the needs assessment and what the data
seem to be telling us
1.50-2.30 Small table discussions and feedback
2.30-3.20 Stories’ session and feedback
3.20-3.45 Afternoon tea and viewing of the stories work
3.45-4.15 Assets and mapping session
4.15-4.25 Our quick reflections on what we’re hearing
4.25-4.45 Plenary feedback from you
4.45-4.55 Next steps
4.55-5.00 Formal thank you and close
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EXERCISE 1
Question 1: To what extent did the presentation match your experience ‘on the ground’? Question 2: To what extent does the service response right across the system meet the needs described? Table 1: (Facilitator: Eugenia Cronin)
For CMI – mild end, education, training, financial support, prevent social isolation
SMI – good models of care - but getting psychology really hard
Connection between physical and mental
CYP – probably higher
Surprised CMI so high - Is it connected with current economic climate - Housing - Lack of work - Pressure of jobs
Things can be done earlier with CYP
Parenting skills needed
Prejudice against people with MI getting jobs
Stiff upper lip
Got better at transition - started running clinics with paediatrician - at 17.5 yrs we start taking over
Strategy needs to include PREVENTION - Include “children with statement” - Learning disability /autism (e.g.)
1. Wholistic approach around CMI patient needed 2. We need peer support workers 3. Prevention
CCG spend 10.8% of budget on MH – National Average is 13% SMICMI patients can access Recovery College
Table 2: (Facilitator: Gemma Hughes)
Alcohol and Drugs: - underlying problem – Mental Health - very difficult to assess - different providers and commissioners for MH and substance misuse → Need more dual diagnosis!!!
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Employment: - lack of trained professionals who can sup[port clients with mental health into work → R
Richmond Fellowship - used to get more support through JobCentre. Now DWP don’t manage it → very unclear/disjointed
*** Lack of clarity/information regarding services and where to go (eg, The Hub – Lambeth …!)
Making sure those affected by the commissioning decisions are involved in the process. Table 3: (Facilitator: Lisa Marin) Question 1:
*** No mention of substance misuse
No mention of sexual health, FGM, rape, prostitution, DV
Depression mentioned
Bullying – awareness, practical help, mental health awareness
More training for professionals, ie, teachers
Changes in life
B&D has special problems (2nd poorest) – specific to areas
*** BPD – challenging Question 2:
Cutbacks – MH Day Centres
Benefits cuts – promoting MH problems no helping
Partnership working
Hard to access services
On line (excluding some people) Table 4: (Facilitator: ?)
Thought there were more people with SMI/CMI
Lower class hit on only
Focus more on people with lower education than those with Degrees, etc
The statistics show a wrong opinion (where do they come from)
What do they mean by the lower classes?
We feel that other classes are not being looked at
If you suffer from a mental illness why is there always a connection that your mental illness has caused your physical illness?
We feel that these statistics should be made more simple as they seem to be very overblown
The statistics do not show how many formal carers there are, how much help goes into helping other people
The statistics do not show what impact mental illness has on an individual person
The mental health system does not work for service users as there is a one size fits all approach
Difficulty of access to services
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Table 5: (Facilitator: Vince Thomas)
Supply not sufficient → Demand
Groups need support/training/finance from the professionals
More funding and support in the community – consequence is less drain on NHS
Mental is physical illness and needs to be treated equally
Long-term health conditions – direct links with mental health
NO LINK was highlighted with substance misuse ……
Individuals with CMI are disadvantaged in society (reduced/limited choices)
Uprise of local community groups – also volunteers. Pros and Cons: Concern – over reliance in long term.
Still a stigma surrounded around CMI – social exclusion
High expectations from volunteers. Without long term required skills/training or support and supervision.
Question 2:
NO Table 6: (Facilitator: Jan Davis) Question 1: Presentation:
Demographics in B&D
Significant increase in referrals of people with mental health needs
Increase due to external factors, ie, employment, family pressures
Higher unemployment in B&D
Constant support and empowerment through their experience Question 2:
NO increase in services (drop in services)
To identify triggers to minimise risks
Identifying priorities, investment
Important family wellbeing, community
Education: - feeling “us and them”
Encourage: - lack of information re what is available - what resources are available
Reactionary: - to establish that the needs are met accordingly
Housing needs not dealing with presenting mental health needs of their tenants
Poor uptake of training from the police
Recovery College at NELFT
Raise awareness of community group-s
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Mental health champions Three Main points:
MH is everyone’s business, better education and training
Rising prevalence and decreasing resources for MH services
Better integration and partnership with housing, police, schools, community groups’ engagement and other external agencies
Table 7: (Facilitator: Sophia Quzi) Question 1:
Match very well, however it only covers those users who have come forward. Also it was not specific enough, ie, those who can’t find work due to illness psychosis or those who lost job due to psychosis.
Extend the voice to include/capture views of young people, age 14 – 25, including their carers.
The time of the survey – was it done before or after the recession? Question 2:
Feel that the services across the Board DO NOT meet the needs of everyone such as Service men and women.
Professionals need more specialist training. Vocational training must mean Vocational training – should be free and not affect benefits
Tables 8 and 9: (Facilitator: Lorna McCarthy and Cynthia Folarin) Question 1:
A) Surprised about the figure, believes it is due to the fact the amount of people moving into the borough and social issues that exist.
B) Not surprised the figure is not higher, due to 2001 report about mental illnesses in the country. Saying 1 in 6 suffer with MH.
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Additional comments:
Starlight: - felt safe - bingo - quiz’s - trips
They need to bring back Starlight
On Wednesday Gary and Jenny do Centre at St Margaret’s Church
Need professional support
Professionals need to appreciate community setting
About Police – living rough
Mental Health is an investment
Funds invested in prevention and promoting positive MH understanding could avoid the impact when a problem develops later; financially and on the person
Need a social firm to fund MH services
Road Map for (Gemma contact) patients/providers for all needs (like Tube Map)
Care Pathways
Need Clubhouse model for day services for Mental Health
Clubhouse is where Service Users volunteer in Day Centre run by professionals
Dementia: - needs to be included - not covered today
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EXERCISE 2 – STORIES SESSION
John: Table 7 (Facilitator: Vince Thomas) Three key points:
1. Early intervention - primary care - ISPT – therapy / self-help - support for employer
2. Knowing where to access help or support 3. Social inclusion opportunities – third sector
Denial
Neighbour support
Duty of employer to refer
Neighbour support to GP
Self-awareness
Mental health education and training for professionals at every level
GP involvement: - Ax / Medication / IAPT referral
Monitoring: - mental state / medication effects / physical health / Consideration of referral to secondary care if appropriate by GP or IAPT
Put on GP “Register”
Screening through physical health appointments
IAPT – therapy – CBT / self help - BWW, books on Px
Referral to support services / social inclusion Reality:
- Long time for recognition / stigma - Lack of awareness of where to access help / support - Does GP recognise symptoms - GP gave leaflet and expected self-referral - Language / jargon used is off-putting - Could of ended up in A&E – “chest pain” - John may have resisted intervention - John deteriorates further - No motivation
Continue with primary care ↓ - GP prescription - IAPT – counselling/therapy - self help - GP/IAPT monitoring - Voluntary sector engagement - Improvement – Discharge - Deteriorate – Refer to:
Referred to secondary care services ↓ - Formal Mental Health Act assessment - Screening Ax by access and assessment - Seen by Psychiatrist - Prescriptions - Referral to Psychology - Admission to inpatients - Home Treatment Team - Community Recovery Team - Outpatients / Community Clinic - Voluntary Sector
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Yasmin: Table 2 (Facilitator: Gemma Hughes)
Understanding boss: - reasonable adjustments - legal rights - no legal aids - employment advice to protect: access rights / levels of expertise varies / referral to 2nd tier
Advice: - housing and employment
Support: - link with family
Mental Health First Aid in the workplace
Support of relative: - data sharing
Early access to MH support: - GP - voluntary - sectioned - home treatment
Access to advice: - Quick access to services that can respond quickly and effectively
Appropriate meds: - wrong medication ** the right medication quickly
Trust / Connecting with others: - important to have positive relationships with those involved in their care ** a relationship with professional (CPN) based on trust
Flexibility
Inner resources
External resources Yasmin: Table 4 (Facilitator: Cynthia Folarin)
Occupational health Line management
GP – poor sleep – not necessarily MH – Experience clarity
Referral to psychiatrist due to hallucinations, etc
No medical organic causes / therapy
Medication
CPN
Self-help, yoga
Paranoia and isolation – doesn’t access service
Medication before you need it
Primary source → gaps in knowledge of GP – training ** Slip through net
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Secondary care → hospital – section
O.T.
**Waiting times, delays in accessing appropriate staff due to shortage of staff
Relationship of client/professional needs to be therapeutic
Balance between talking treatment/medication
Person-centred, individual
***One size fits all
** Care coordinators (not everyone has one) Colin: Table 5 (Facilitator: Sue Seeley)
Referral to substance misuse services (YP services) o To address cannabis and alcohol use o Mother referred to carers groups o Police are aware of Colin’s situation and therefore doesn’t arrest him when he is in trouble,
but takes him home o GP o ADHD specialists/clinics to support him into CTE o Integrated service to link education/MH/employment o Be realistic about employment ambitions
Family support with uncle finding him employment
Colin was listened to regarding his career choice
Education in the hone – parental and carers involvement down to the food that is offered, etc
Therapist involved Colin’s mother as part of therapy
Early intervention may have prevented the substance misuse
Support groups in substance misuse for family members
Transition age within MH services – go from lots of support to very little
ADHD – is there a clear pathway for transition age?
There are transition clinics from 17.5 years
Youth group – activities to make friends / peer mentor / Buddy
** Excellent communication links between MH and drug treatment services is essential
Colin was thoroughly assessed for his needs and ** got support from a peer mentor *** little or none in mental health in ADHD
Colin trusted the person he worked with because he didn’t see lots of different professionals GAP: Joint working / communication in all sectors
Do teachers know where to refer to? How is ADHD flagged up?
Sharing information amongst professionals
** Need a transitional pathway for all mental health issues
Dyslexia/Dyspraxia diagnosis and support
** Pathways from schools – teachers need advice and consultation
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ASSETS SESSION
Groups asked to identify assets that are important for people’s mental health, that exist in the borough. These might be community or geographical – participants identified a list of assets and identified those which had a ‘geographical presence’ and assigned a flag which was placed on a map. Table 4: Yellow (Facilitator: Gemma Hughes)
Weather
Pets
Radio
Sister
Free newspapers
Baking
Exercise
Gardening
Walking
Fellowship meetings
Daughter
Fishing
Neighbours
Freedom Pass
Knitting
Gym
Music
Friends
Crosswords
Mum
Therapists
NELFT Sports Day Geographical:
Becontree Leisure Centre
Learning Centre
Raphael Park
Barking College
Public Benches, Barking Station
Town Square
Eastbury Manor
Eco-Therapy Walks – The Chase
Library
Recovery Café
St Margaret’s Church Café
Support Group (Tues, Weds, Thurs 11-2pm) – St Margaret’s
Barking Bathhouse
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Dagenham and Redbridge Football Club
Barking Park Table 5: Blue (Facilitator: Sue Seeley/Vince Thomas/Sue Butcher)
Internet cafes / Library – to keep in touch with family/relatives
Children’s Centres
Choirs (there is one in Dagenham – can’t remember the name)
Amateur dramatics/orchestras – in surrounding areas
Coping through football
Valence House
Eastbury Manor House
Dagenham Open Mike – Talent (last Thursday of the month) - yoga - tai chi
Cuckoos Nest Support group MH
Bath House (part of BLC)
Volunteer Service (CVS)
NELFT Services
Benefits
Job Centre
Gardens (own and others) – make a window box/indoor plants
Drug and Alcohol Services + AA/NA etc
Abbey Sports Centre
Leisure Centres
Fit for Life
Barking Library / Learning Centre
Dagenham Library
Heath Library
Thames View Library
Valence Library
Broadway Theatre
Relish Café
Valence Park
Ranger Walks – Mayesbrook Park
Barking Park
Barking Adult College
Barking and Dagenham College
Recovery College (NELFT)
Richmond Fellowship
CAB
DABD
Festival Leisure Centre
Pubs (health warning)
Transport to and from Barking and surrounding areas (Freedom Pass)
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Table 6: Green (Facilitator: Jan Davis) Geographical
Green open spaces - all parks - activities in them
Becontree Leisure Centre – exercise on prescription
Abbey Leisure Centre
Barking Abbey ruins – off North St
Eastbury Manor
Valence House
Barking Learning Centre
Dagenham Library
Dagenham and Redbridge Football Club
Allotments – Becontree Heath
Broadway Theatre Table 7: Red (Facilitator: Sophia/Olu)
Library – Dagenham Heathway
Parks – East Brook
Cafes – Shepards
Pubs – Royal Oak, Becontree
Leisure Centres – Dagenham
Churches – religious centres (St Margaret)
Barking Market and Dagenham Heathway
Shopping Mall - Vicarage Field
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FINAL SESSION
What we missed today?
GAPS: → Slide
A&D → Sub-mis and individuals that are attending frequently but do not have a disease specific issue – classed as MH but are not → LABEL
Need to focus on the cultural needs of individuals 3% of individuals on CPA are in employment, however compared to general population in B&D this is good
Remploy has been lost from B&D
GAP: Lack of Peer support → also identified in CQC survey
How are we doing? Who is missing?
Police → Community Support Police
Decision makers
GPs (without a special interest in MH)
MP
A&D staff
Faith Leaders
Community Pharmacist
Schools
CPN
Housing
Employers
Job Centre →
Transport → Bus Drivers
Ambulance Event 2: 12.11.14
Look at good practice from elsewhere:- - Lambeth - Sandiwell
Priorities in a co-produced way: Priorities → short/long term goals → realistic!
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When will decision-makers be brought in? (EC replied: will be reporting to MH Sub Group on 3.12.14 with recommendations)
PTSD
More from Service users → sharing their experience (have service users speaking from the front rather than around the table).
‘Stigma’ – inflammatory use of language by professionals – can be found offensive! Unravel stigma.
EC advised that the information would be tabulated into the report and will be sent to everyone. Thanks to Facilitators
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Detailed evaluation
To what extent do you agree with the following statements (please tick one):
My time at this event has been well spent: Agree x 21 (100%)
I would recommend a similar event to my colleagues: Agree x 21 (100%)
I have felt able to contribute my views and experience today: Agree x 20 Neither Agree nor Disagree x 1
How would you rate the various activities you have participated in this afternoon?
Good x 16
Excellent x 5 How would you rate the facilitation for this afternoon’s event?
Fair x 1
Good x 12
Excellent x 8 Please give any further comments:
Good group exercises but some exercises were based on subjective opinion, rather than objective experience
Needed more time for the amount of activities scheduled
Well organised and thoughtfully planned
One of the facilitators wasn’t that good – the others were excellent, so the average is fair What are the two most useful things you have learned or will take away with you?
Networking and trouble shooting
Transition
Views of the users
Assets in B&D
Facilitation is out there (just needs better networking)
Assets was very useful exercise
Issues which affect service users / being listened to
Service users are more active than thought they would be
I learnt about the resources on offer in B&D
LBBD is serious in raising awareness of mental health and preventative care – and focussing on our young people
Being able to network with such a diverse group of people
Early intervention
Full service for service users
The amount of support available in the area
The input of services users was great – learnt their perspective
Engagement is difficult for some MH services
Time constraint affects the quality
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The knowledge connected to all aspects of the MH group
Enjoyed doing this work with people from a range of perspectives
Met some people who work in borough services
Seemed well organised
Need for appropriate early intervention
Need for appropriate education and awareness for GPs and general community
To take part in group conversation
Diversity of group CSUs and professionals
The range of activities available
How many allotments there are in B&D
More about how CPA works
Insight from different areas
What two changes, if any, would you make to future events?
For service users to be more involved, ie, to run half of the session
Apart from fruit, there was no vegetarian options
Engagement of more front line staff, as they seemed to be lacking – CPNs, social work, GPs etc, albeit great representation of service users
Provide with vegetarian food for the participants
Put more events on using the same approach as today
Focus on the mental health needs of our young people
Ensure there are young people represented at day (14 – 25 years) or on a different specific young people day. There is a young people’s group call ‘Listen!’ (part of TLZ, young people’s counselling service) – they could be consulted.
None
Not on a Friday afternoon
Make sure there is feedback on what is going to change as a result of this event
Smaller groups of people, who need more time
Mini events
Find some different and more inclusive ways to engage with people with mild/moderate mental health problems
Sound check as we needed a microphone
Ask people to turn off mobiles
Would like for dementia to be mentioned
To have more tea breaks as it is a long day
To have some air in the meeting room
Look at how a service user is supported after discharge from CRT
Explore the need for and shape of a day service
Service users taking a bigger role
Plenary speakers
Less moving around What is the single most important thing that you think the mental health needs assessment should cover?
Transition
Service specification to meet local needs
Interaction
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An increase in population in Barking & Dagenham and increase in referrals to secondary care MH services, who are constantly expected to deliver care with a reduction in budget. This needs to be acknowledged and addressed by commissioners, who just keep increasing targets. There is a disconnect.
Train up some of our young people to work with their peers – to raise awareness via the education system
I am very excited that we are actually having open and frank discussions including service users. Cllr Fergus
Wellbeing
Drugs and Alcohol Pathway and Dual Diagnosis provision
Moving people forward for better health and wellbeing
Easy access to what is on offer and individual case treatments
Service user (a range of services) perspective
Meaningful activities / work in the borough
Growing issue of dementia in members of the community - growing population of older people
To recognise the person first before the illness
Communication and services available
Appropriate housing
Practical education and training