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Page 1: Modeling the Mighty PRR In S Scale Today Phila Chapter PRR T&HS Modelers Meeting June 7, 2008

Modeling the Mighty PRR In S Scale Today

Phila Chapter PRR T&HS

Modelers Meeting

June 7, 2008

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There is “nothing” made in S Scale!

I don’t “play” with American Flyer!

• If this were true, how do I own a VERY extensive collection of there is “nothing” made in S Scale?

• None of the following models have anything to do with American Flyer !

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Why Choose S Scale?

• When I switched to S Scale from HO in 1987, the scale was at the beginning of a rebirth, with some nicely detailed generic plastic models available. Since that time, the growth and availability of new products and rolling stock has been nothing short of amazing. My interest in the PRR has evolved and grown along with the growth of S Scale. The Mighty Pennsy accounts for a large portion of the S Scale market. I will show you that you can plan and build a viable PRR layout with the products that are currently available. While there is not the total diversity of rolling stock that HO has, most major class pieces have been made, with more on the way. S Scale is approximately 33% larger then HO, (1:64th or 3/16” = 1”) for those “aging HO eyes.” Unlike O Scale “standard gauge”, which actually scales out to be 5 feet wide, S Scale has the correct standard gauge track width. Furthermore, BTS (formally Bills Train shop) http://www.btsrr.com is producing the East Broad Top in Sn3 in its entirety if you want to add a prototypical narrow gauge line.

• The following is a current listing of accurately detailed models that have been or are being produced for PRR Prototypes, or can be easily made into reasonably accurate PRR models with some minor details added. While the detail level of the stock S Scale models is good to outstanding, my modeling for the past 10 years has been changing something to make it unique or superdetailing to make the model mine. Most of the models shown are mine. With that said most of the models shown here are not stock out of the box, but that is what Model Railroading is all about anyway. I have at least one of most of the models listed here, but they may not be painted yet.

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Brass ModelsMy “small” obsession!

• The PRR has been pretty well represented for a minority scale in most categories of brass rolling stock

• Most new S Brass is underpriced when compared to HO and O Scale models.

• Most new S brass was and still is bought directly from the importer. (Overland in the late 80s and early 1990s was the exception)

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Brass Steam LocomotivesMost of the S Scale PRR steam engines were imported by the S

Scale only company Omnicon and were built by Samhongsa

• Omnicon• K4 As Built• L1 As Built• M1 As Built• M1a As Built• I1 Modernized• River Raisin Models• J1 Cast Frame Version

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Omnicon K4Modernized by Jack Bounds

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K4 5495

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My K4 5495 in progress

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My K4 5495 in progress

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Omnicon L1Modernized by me

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Omnicon M1

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Omnicon M1a Modernized by me

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My Omnicon M1bIn Progress

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My Omnicon M1bIn Progress

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Omnicon Models I1

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River Raisin J1With cast frame

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Brass Diesels• Many PRR brass diesels have been

produced in S Scale, mostly from Overland Models. River Raisin Models has made diesels as well.

• The larger size makes sound unit installation much easier!

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Alco Models RS SeriesThe First Brass Loco In S Scale

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Overland Models E7 A & B

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Overland Models E8aE8a were rerun by River Raisin in 1991

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Overland Models Alco FA FB

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Overland Models Alco S Series SwitchersS4 Shown

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River Raisin Models 44 TonnerIn Progress

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Sunset Models GP7Passenger Version

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Greenbrier Models GP30Managed by BTS

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River Raisin Models SD9I own 2 of 16 S Scale models built

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River Raisin Models BF16

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Brass Freight CarsSouthwind Models F30

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Southwind Models F34

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Southwind GLcaGLcb not shown

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River Raisin GLd

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Pennsy S Models G26

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Pennsy S Models G26a

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Southwind Models H21a

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Southwind Models H22

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Southwind Models H25

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Southwind Models H31b

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Southwind Models H31c

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River Raisin Models H30

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River Raisin Models H30a

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River Raisin Models H32

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River Raisin Models X31a

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River Raisin Models X33a

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X33a converted to X32aMy First Brass Bash c1992

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Pennsy S Models X29 REA Version

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Pennsy S Models X29 Freight Versions

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Overland Models N5My first Cabin Car paint job

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Overland Models N5b

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Overland Models N5c

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Southwind Models N6

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Southwind Models N8

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Southwind Models Y4 Scale Test Car

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Brass Passenger Cars Southwind Models B60 & B60b

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Southwind Models R50b

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Southwind Models P70rFactory Painted

They will be stripped and repainted at some point

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Brass Models Not Shown• Alco Models RS2 & RS3• River Raisin Models SD7, E8, Airslide Hopper

1965 version, GLf (Unpainted)• Overland Models F3, F7, F9, S1, S2, RS11• Oriental SW1, SW7, SW9, SW1200 & NW2• Sunset Models GP9• Southwind Models12-1 & 13 DB Pullmans, GLca

hopper, N6 Center & Lines West Cupola

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Plastic & Other Models

• BTS• American Models• S Helper Service• Putt Trains (Formally Rex Trains)• Des Plaines Hobbies• Pacific Rail Shops (Now Des Plaines Hobbies)• S Scale America (Now Des Plaines Hobbies)• Funaro & Camerlengo

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Putt Trains (Formerly Rex) B6

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American Models Baldwin S12

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American Models PA-1 & PB-1My A B A Set in progress

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American Models GG1

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American Models K4 Streamlined

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American Models GP9Heavily reworked in 1990

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American Models FP7

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American Models E8

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American Models TrainMaster

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American Models RS3

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American Models FA-2 & FB-2

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American Models GP35

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Omnicon BF16 Urethane

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S Helper Service SW1

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S Helper Service SW9

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S Helper Service F7a & F7b

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Funaro & Camerlengo FM Sold as Central Hobby Supply c1990s

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S Helper Service F41

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BTS (Formally Bills Train Shop)F39 (Pewter)

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Funaro & Camerlengo GRaSold as Central Hobby Supply c1990s

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S Scale America G24(Des Plaines Hobbies)

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S Helper Service GLd

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S Helper Service GLf

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S Helper Service H34c

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S Scale America H39Hand Built Prototype (On Left) and a

Production Model (Assembly required)

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S Helper Service X26 & X26c

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Pacific Rail Shops X37bSpecial Run For The South Jersey S Scalers 1995

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Pacific Rail Shops X41bSpecial Run for 1993 NASG/NMRA Convention

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Kaslo Shops N5c

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S Helper Service 12-1 Pullman

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S Helper Service 10-1-2 PullmanCafé Car Not Shown

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Known Future Plastic Models

• S Helper Service NW2, E7 A & B due 2008-2009

• Des Plaines Hobbies X29

Plastic & Urethane Models Not Shown

•BTS - H21 and P54 flat panel kits

•American Models U25b (Undecorated)

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Track• Shinohara• Code 100 flextrack• Code 100 #6 & 8 turnouts• S Helper Service• Code 125 flextrack built to PRR Mainline standards• Code 125 turnouts with wood ties are in development• Tomalco• Code 70/83/100 flextrack, turnouts, crossings and track

accessories• Fast Tracks • Turnout and frog building fixtures and jigs for code 83 to 125.

Laser cut turnout tie kits.

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Links Of Interest

• National Association of S Gaugers www.nasg.org

• NASG Convention Lowell Mass August 5-10, 2008http://www.nasg2008.com

• Lanes Trains www.lanestrains.com

• Pennsy S Models www.pennsysmodels.com

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ALL of this S Scale looks good Bill!

• But I already have SO much rolling stock in ______ Scale. How can I switch scales now?

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Sell it all NOW!Bidders are standing by!

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S Scale today is not your old American Flyer. It is also not the Scratchbuilders scale that it was years ago. • This is where I could have continued the listing by including the many

other plastic R-T-R and kit form cars that are available. However, the focus for this article is accurate PRR prototypes. Even the most discriminating modeler in any scale has to fill in the rolling stock collection with more generic models

• Considering that 80% of the above models were not available when I switched to S Scale in 1987, I truly believe that S Scale will only continue to grow at a faster rate then it has previously. What attracted me is that it was a minority scale. I can be a little obsessive. There was not the pressure of wanting everything that I might have had in HO. You can get everything if you want. However, even if you did that, you would still have a sizable collection and investment as you have seen.

• You can also call up the owner of a company at home to make modeling or project suggestions. It very well could get made. I know that to be true, because I have done it. Try that with any of the major manufacturers in other scales! S Scale is a close knit community of people and friends that enjoy the common bond of modeling in the scale between HO and O Scale.

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End MarkersQuestions?

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All text and photography © Bill Lane2008

• Some photos were “borrowed” from the manufacturer's website in the name of the promotion of modeling the PRR in S Scale

• No websites or photos were harmed in the production of this presentation

• See www.lanetrains.com for more of what has been made in S Scale in roads other then PRR.