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Page 1: MYTHBUSTERS: VET SCHOOL EDITION · MYTHBUSTERS: VET SCHOOL EDITION Author: Erin Brannick Created Date: 4/14/2015 4:15:31 PM

By Erin

Brannick,

DVM, MS,

DACVPVET SCHOOL EDITION

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Pre-conceived notions, rumors and speculations abound about

veterinary admissions and vet school

Friendly “advice” from family members, friends, mentors, and

complete strangers can increase anxiety over pre -vet track

and veterinary admissions

DE-MYTH-IFYING VET SCHOOL

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Inform future colleagues

Level or raise the playing field.

Students who seek out early

advisement are MORE likely to

be successful in applications!

Lessen anxiety

Have some fun at my own, and

my profession’s, expense

PURPOSE OF THIS PRESENTATION

Presenting some of the most common vet school myths…

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TRUE NATIONALLY, FALSE LOCALLY

National acceptance rate ~ 42% applicants

UD ANFS major acceptance rate ranges between 77 -91%!

MOST PEOPLE WHO APPLY TO VET

SCHOOL DO NOT GET IN

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Many students who apply again

and improve deficits between

applications get accepted

Have PLAN B, even if an

excellent student

Plan A is still an option, may

just not happen immediately

Decide how long you want to

hold onto Plan A and stick with

your plan

IF I DON’T GET IN ON THE FIRST TRY,

I WILL NEVER BECOME A VET

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Concerns by year-

Yr 1: Adjusting to rigorous pace, new study habits, exams

Yr 2: Doldrums of didactic study, exams

Yr 3: Clinics/boards looming on horizon, first surgery

Yr 4: Clinics (sleep schedule, constant change, boards, interpersonal conflicts), 1 st job

THE HARDEST PART ABOUT

VET SCHOOL IS GETTING IN

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Not more dif ficult, just more information more quickly

Since it is for your career, EVERYTHING seems to matter

Much more interesting, since it is what you WANT to study

Vet schools want you to succeed! Very few students fail or

leave once in vet school.

VET SCHOOL IS WAY MORE DIFFICULT

THAN UNDERGRAD

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Academic trends and overall workload matter more

Other attributes and experiences also vitally important

Prefer >3.5, but >3.0 still competitive at most schools.

Students with >2.5 eligible at some schools.

I MUST HAVE A PERFECT 4.0 GPA TO

HAVE A CHANCE AT VET SCHOOL

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Must also complete pre-reqs and

show evidence of:

-leadership

-high communication skil ls

-community engagement

-good ethical judgment

-coping skil ls

-work/life balance

-vet/animal experience

Not all GPAs created equal - community college vs. 4 yr, school rankings, curriculum selected (l ight courseload , W’s on transcript), etc.

I HAVE A PERFECT 4.0 GPA, SO I AM A

SHOE-IN FOR VET SCHOOL!

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Application is NOT a score card/checklist

Breadth (more than 1 species or more than 1 type of practice)

and Depth (duration and level of interaction) matter

Try what interests you and Do what you LOVE!

I MUST WORK WITH X SPECIES BEFORE

APPLYING TO VET SCHOOL

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Keep an open mind. Many students change trajectory during

vet school and many vets change career paths.

Knowledge and skills can apply across species.

Breadth of knowledge makes you more versatile as your

interests or vet med trends change over time.

I WANT TO BE A VET, SO I DON’T

NEED TO KNOW ABOUT X SPECIES.

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As long as pre-reqs are met, students can have any major/minor they want

When selecting a minor or electives, consider:

-skil l building (language, business/econ/finance, communication, etc.)

-complementing (med technology, public health, psychology, etc.)

-diversifying (fashion design, history, English, etc.)

-enjoying (music, dance, art, etc.)

Develop a unique perspective through these courses to bring to vet med!

I NEED A SCIENCE-BASED MAJOR/

MINOR FOR VET SCHOOL

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My classmates are my future COLLEAGUES

Work together and celebrate each others’ successes

Build a network that will span countries and decades!

Other than a couple East coast schools, most UD ANFS

students do not overlap for vet school applications or

UD ANFS students are equally successful at getting in to same

school during the same application cycle

MY CLASSMATES ARE MY COMPETITION

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Select programs based on:

-strengths of

program

-personal interest

-geographic/social

needs

-family needs

Home school advantage

-broader GPA/GRE

range

-more students

from smaller pool

-cheaper tuition

IF I HAVE A “HOME” VET SCHOOL,

I MUST APPLY THERE

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Auburn University

Colorado State University

Cornell University

Iowa State University

Kansas State University

Lincoln Memorial University**

Louisiana State University

Michigan State University

Midwestern University**

Mississippi State University

North Carolina State University

Ohio State University

Oklahoma State University

Oregon State University

Purdue University

Texas A&M University

RED = Admitted and attended

** Not fully accredited

Tufts University

Tuskegee University

University of California, Davis

University of Florida

University of Georgia

University of Illinois

University of Minnesota

University of Missouri

University of Pennsylvania

University of Tennessee

University of Wisconsin

Virginia-Maryland College of

Veterinary Medicine

Washington State University

Western University of Health

Sciences

PURPLE = Admitted, elected

not to attend

30 Vet Schools in 50 states

Most UD ANFS students get into more than 1 school (up to 7 schools!)

Currently have students at or about to attend half the US schools!

UD ANFS students have been accepted to al l but 6 of the US accredited schools in just the past 4 years!

But before applying:

Check for “contract seats”

Check # out of state seats

IF I AM APPLYING “OUT OF STATE”, I

HAVE NO CHANCE AT THAT VET SCHOOL

Also: Ross, St. George’s, Royal Vet

College (London), Edinburgh, Dublin

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True for some vet schools, but not all

Ohio State, Missouri, UC Davis, Washington State, NC State allow students to apply for in -state residency after 1 year

MUST prove and document NO major cash flow from out of state sources (i.e. parents, work in other states, etc.) during the year

MUST change address, driver’s license, voter reg., etc. to new state

MAY have to work in state during the year.

ONCE “OUT OF STATE”,

ALWAYS “OUT OF STATE”

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FROM AAVMC FAQ:

Is a veterinary school’s

ranking important?

“No. Each of the veterinary schools has

unique aspects about their educational

programs, specialty areas, faculty,

geographic location, etc. It’s really like

comparing apples to oranges. All

accredited veterinary schools deliver a

standard quality of education meeting

the requirements of the AVMA/COE .”

VET SCHOOLS ARE INFERIOR

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Educational debt = DEBT.

My loans were >$130,000, or ~$500/month

Total educational loans in my family of >$250K, or ~$1,000/month

As professionals, our earnings bumped us into higher tax bracket:

-Keep less due to higher tax %

-Fewer tax credits

-No credits for student loan repayment!

VET DEBT IS “GOOD” DEBT

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Partially true… recent JAVMA study shows that some vet

career paths may never break even before retirement,

especially for women entering profession

Academia and industry were exceptions

Need to plan ahead to reduce or offset loans, negotiate for

higher earnings, and plan for concurrent life/retirement

savings!

WITH VET LOANS, YOU MAY NEVER

“BREAK EVEN” DURING YOUR CAREER

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Not necessarily…

Scholarships available, but different than undergrad

Combined grad/vet school option > tuition free or reduced, less time overall to both degrees

Military option

But

Loan repayment programs:

-USDA or NIH VMLRP (Vet Med Loan Repayment programs)

-Public service (10 yrs = discharge remainder of debt)

-State programs (NJ, etc.)

https://www.avma.org/About/SAVMA/StudentFinancialResources/Pages/Scholarship-Loan-Repayment-and-Forgiveness-Programs.aspx

ALL MY VET EDUCATION MUST BE PAID

THROUGH LOANS

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Due to earnings potential, typically good credit scores, and high likelihood of full repayment, most banks LOVE loaning money to vets!

Many banks even offer special financing lines just for professionals (i .e. “Professional Loans”)

Some lending groups target vets!

Amount depends on debt : earnings

But, you are financially responsible for each and every loan you take out!!!

WITH VET DEBT, YOU CANNOT GET OTHER

LOANS (MORTGAGE, ETC.)

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Life happens before, during,

and after vet school

You can “have it all” just not

always when you want it

Be flexible with your

timeline

BECOMING A VET PUTS

LIFE PLANS ON HOLD

Make career decisions WITH

others

Prioritize your LIFE into your

work goals (1, 5, 10yr

plans)

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Don’t let others talk you OUT of vet med, especially mid -

career veterinarians

High degree of job satisfaction (above average), especially

compared to other professionals

Most common reason for leaving

profession is retirement !

BECOMING A VETERINARIAN ISN’T

WORTH IT ANYMORE

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OTHER MYTHS THAT NEED

TO BE DEBUNKED?

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VMSAR by Purdue Univ. Press

American Association of Veterinary Medical

Colleges http://aavmc.org/

(VMCAS- Vet Med College

Application Service)

American Veterinary Medical Association

https://www.avma.org/Pages/home.aspx

FOR MORE INFORMATION