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T he hero of the animat- ed “Kung Fu Panda 2,” opening Thurs- day, is a panda named Po — but he may as well be called “Jack Black and White” since there is no mistaking the distinctive sensibility of the comic actor whose rapid-fire yet casually offhand riffs have added hey-dude humor to such films as “High Fidelity” and “Trop- ic Thunder,” and carried such starring vehicles as “Shallow Hal” and “The School of Rock.” Black, 41, born in Santa Monica, Calif., and raised in Hermosa Beach, began his career at 13, in TV commer- cials for such products as the Atari video game Pitfall. Roles in the TV-movie “Our Shining Moment” (1991) and Tim Robbins’ political satire “Bob Roberts” (1992) led to steady bit-part and character work until his breakthrough as John Cusack’s wild record- store employee in “High Fidel- ity” (2000). He’s also found success with his and Kyle Glass’ rock duo Tenacious D. Black spoke with Newsday contributor Frank Lovece by phone from the Cannes Film Festival. Animation directors do record- ing sessions in different ways. Usually actors all record sepa- rately, but not always. How did it work for you here? The only thing I did with another actor was the scene when I first meet [the antag- onist] Shen, the albino pea- cock. Me and Gary Oldman did bust that out together because they were unable to get the magic with us sepa- rately. Why, do you think? I don’t know. There was just something about the intensity of the scene where we meet and we’re kind of laughing at each other and slowly ramp- ing it up. It needed to happen live. Did the director, Jennifer Yuh Nelson, ever say, as they sometimes do with animation, “OK, we got the script version, you want to improv anything?” No, she never gave me the go-ahead like that, but some- times I would just take it. Sometimes I would just say, “Hey, wait, let me do one more,” and then I would sur- prise them with a riff. Any particular one you’d like to share? I can’t remember off the top of my head, and I’m not even sure if they used them. All I know is that I always throw in my own take on certain scenes. In the first “Kung Fu Panda,” Po dreams of joining the movie’s team of heroes. Now, here, he’s a member, he can hold his own, but he’s also the one who clowns around and makes the others laugh. Anything you can personally relate to there? All through my 20s I was very much like Po, just sort of struggling to get by and not really being one of the comedic actors who were established. I didn’t really have a consistent money- making career, like I can get my own apartment, until I was, like, 30 years old. Before that, I would get parts here and there and I would go get an apartment and live there for a while, and then I would run out of money and go back and live with my mom. So, yeah, when I’m trying to get in the Po mode, I think back on those times, to my humble days when I was in awe of the comedy gods. And those would be . . . ? Obviously John Belushi, he was a big influence on me, but also later on, Chris Far- ley. Those are obvious ones, just because we portly come- dians got to stick together. But I’m also a huge fan of Jim Carrey and his style. It’s not really about the subtlety so much as it is about going to the absolute limit. “Tropic Thunder” — is the sequel going to happen? Don’t think so. I have not heard anything about [the proposed] “Arctic Light- ning.” Your hard-core fans are clamoring to see your and Owen Wilson’s 1999 sci-fi/ comedy TV pilot, “Heat Vision and Jack,” released legitimately, instead of just being on bootleg video and unauthorized websites. Ever going to happen? I don’t think so. That’s a You- Tuber. That’s the way it has to be, unfortunately. What are you doing next? I’ve got a bird-watching movie coming out with Steve Martin and Owen Wilson in October, and then I did “Bernie” with [director] Rick Linklater that comes out I don’t know when. Wait, Owen Wilson, who did the voice of the talking motorcycle in “Heat Vision”? That’s right! We meet again. “Heat Vision and Birds.” That’s right! [Laughs] /movies See a trailer for “Kung Fu Panda 2” A s Season 10 of “Ameri- can Idol” draws to a close, the insults continue, although this time they’re aimed at viewers. Recently, “Idol” executive producer Nigel Lythgoe took to his Twitter account to strike back at, well, who? Lythgoe tweeted, “Thanks for all the personal abuse from the usual morons out there in Twitter- land.” On Tuesday, when MTV asked Lythgoe whom the comment was aimed at, he said, “The ones that believe we manipulate everything. . . . I always end up having to go, ‘You morons out there’ . . . and realize that I’m arguing with 7- or 8-year- olds from Wisconsin.” Apparently, it’s also not a good idea to question Lyth- goe about the show’s perfor- mance order. After uncharac- teristically being assigned the opening spot — general- ly considered the death slot — two weeks in a row, rock- er James Durbin, who many thought might win, was eliminated May 12. Lythgoe’s response: “James opened the week before. He opened it again [last] week . . . then we changed him to the last [for the second song], so it was fairer. So when Standards and Practices said to us, ‘Why is he opening twice?,’ well, he’s opening twice because . . . he’s the up-tempo one. You don’t want to open the show with a ballad.. . . That was all it was. God forbid logic comes into a megalomaniac fan that just wants their No. 1 to win and everything else is: The world’s against them!” — RONNIE GILL Nigel Lythgoe is Twittering away too much of his time. fast chat Nigel’s bitter tweet taste GETTY IMAGES PHOTO GETTY IMAGES PHOTO Jack Black ‘idol’ buzz C3 FanFare www.newsday.com NEWSDAY, SUNDAY, MAY 22, 2011

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  • The hero of the animat-ed Kung Fu Panda2, opening Thurs-day, is a pandanamed Po but he

    may as well be called JackBlack and White since thereis no mistaking the distinctivesensibility of the comic actorwhose rapid-fire yet casuallyoffhand riffs have addedhey-dude humor to such filmsas High Fidelity and Trop-ic Thunder, and carried suchstarring vehicles as ShallowHal and The School ofRock.Black, 41, born in Santa

    Monica, Calif., and raised inHermosa Beach, began hiscareer at 13, in TV commer-cials for such products as theAtari video game Pitfall.Roles in the TV-movie OurShining Moment (1991) andTim Robbins political satireBob Roberts (1992) led tosteady bit-part and characterwork until his breakthroughas John Cusacks wild record-store employee in High Fidel-ity (2000). Hes also foundsuccess with his and KyleGlass rock duo Tenacious D.Black spoke with Newsday

    contributor Frank Lovece byphone from the Cannes FilmFestival.

    Animation directors do record-ing sessions in different ways.Usually actors all record sepa-rately, but not always. Howdid it work for you here?The only thing I did withanother actor was the scenewhen I first meet [the antag-onist] Shen, the albino pea-cock. Me and Gary Oldmandid bust that out togetherbecause they were unable toget the magic with us sepa-rately.

    Why, do you think?I dont know. There was justsomething about the intensityof the scene where we meetand were kind of laughing ateach other and slowly ramp-ing it up. It needed to happenlive.

    Did the director, JenniferYuh Nelson, ever say, asthey sometimes do withanimation, OK, we got thescript version, you want toimprov anything?No, she never gave me thego-ahead like that, but some-times I would just take it.Sometimes I would just say,Hey, wait, let me do onemore, and then I would sur-prise them with a riff.

    Any particular one youd liketo share?I cant remember off the topof my head, and Im noteven sure if they used them.All I know is that I alwaysthrow in my own take oncertain scenes.

    In the first Kung Fu Panda,Po dreams of joining themovies team of heroes.Now, here, hes a member,he can hold his own, but hesalso the one who clownsaround and makes the otherslaugh. Anything you canpersonally relate to there?All through my 20s I wasvery much like Po, just sortof struggling to get by andnot really being one of thecomedic actors who wereestablished. I didnt reallyhave a consistent money-making career, like I can getmy own apartment, until I

    was, like, 30 years old.Before that, I

    would get parts here andthere and I would go get anapartment and live there fora while, and then I wouldrun out of money and goback and live with my mom.So, yeah, when Im trying toget in the Po mode, I thinkback on those times, to myhumble days when I was inawe of the comedy gods.

    And those would be . . . ?Obviously John Belushi, hewas a big influence on me,but also later on, Chris Far-ley. Those are obvious ones,just because we portly come-dians got to stick together.But Im also a huge fan ofJim Carrey and his style. Itsnot really about the subtletyso much as it is about goingto the absolute limit.

    Tropic Thunder is thesequel going to happen?Dont think so. I have notheard anything about [theproposed] Arctic Light-ning.

    Your hard-core fans areclamoring to see your andOwen Wilsons 1999 sci-fi/comedy TV pilot, HeatVision and Jack, releasedlegitimately, instead of justbeing on bootleg video andunauthorized websites. Evergoing to happen?I dont think so. Thats a You-Tuber. Thats the way it has tobe, unfortunately.

    What are you doing next?Ive got a bird-watchingmovie coming out withSteve Martin and OwenWilson in October, and thenI did Bernie with [director]Rick Linklater that comesout I dont know when.

    Wait, Owen Wilson, whodid the voice of the talkingmotorcycle in Heat Vision?Thats right! We meet again.

    Heat Vision and Birds.Thats right! [Laughs]

    /movies

    See a trailer forKung Fu Panda 2

    As Season 10 of Ameri-can Idol draws to aclose, the insultscontinue, although this timetheyre aimed at viewers.Recently, Idol executive

    producerNigel Lythgoe tookto his Twitter account tostrike back at, well, who?Lythgoe tweeted, Thanksfor all the personal abusefrom the usual morons outthere inTwitter-land.On

    Tuesday,whenMTVasked Lythgoe whom thecomment was aimed at, hesaid, The ones that believewemanipulate everything.. . . I always end up havingto go, Youmorons outthere . . . and realize thatIm arguing with 7- or 8-year-olds fromWisconsin.Apparently, its also not a

    good idea to question Lyth-goe about the shows perfor-mance order. After uncharac-teristically being assignedthe opening spot general-ly considered the death slot twoweeks in a row, rock-er JamesDurbin, whomanythought might win, waseliminatedMay 12.Lythgoes response: James

    opened theweek before. Heopened it again [last] week. . . thenwe changed him tothe last [for the second song],so it was fairer. SowhenStandards and Practices saidto us, Why is he openingtwice?, well, hes openingtwice because . . . hes theup-tempo one. You dontwant to open the showwith aballad. . . . Thatwas all itwas. God forbid logic comesinto amegalomaniac fan thatjustwants theirNo. 1 towinand everything else is: Theworlds against them!

    RONNIE GILL

    Nigel Lythgoe is Twitteringaway too much of his time.

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