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Ocean Medicine: The Miracle of Brown Seaweed Extract
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Mike: Many o you reading this may have heard about some o the benets o plants rom the ocean
and, in particular, brown seaweed. You may have seen some o the recent news stories about the specic
constituents o brown seaweed helping get rid o excess body at, or you may have read about them
helping to eliminate radiation poisoning rom the body, or perhaps even about some o the anti-cancer
eects o various seaweeds. Many o you are probably also amiliar with the greatly enhanced longevity
o the Japanese people, who probably eat more seaweed than any other culture in the world.
oday were going to be talking about one specic type o seaweed, brown seaweed, and the extract
orm available in a product called Modilan, and were going to be talking to Sergei Zimin, owner o
Pacic Standard Distributors Inc., which currently produces and sells Modilan. So thanks or joining
me today, Sergei.
Sergei: Tank you or making this happen.
Mike: How long has your company been producing this product, and where does your brown seaweed
actually come rom? Is it ocean grown or arm grown?
Sergei: Te raw material we make our extract rom comes rom Russian waters; its actually a ar
eastern part o Russia, o the Asiatic part o the Siberian continent, near the Kuril Islands between
Japan and Kamchatka. People may also know these islands by their controversial political geography,
which makes Japan claim this territory as their own northern territories while Russiawhich actually
took those islands ater the Second World Warclaims them as well.
Our kombuthe common name o this variety o brown seaweedis not armed, and its not the typeo sea plant that is planted or gathered. Its in the middle o the ocean, about 600 miles away rom the
closest commercial port. Te island around which we get this particular raw material is called Urup.
Mike: How do you harvest this? Is this o o a boat, or do you have divers?
Sergei: A boat is involved, but its a little tugboat rom which we gather bunches o leaves hand-cut by
divers and tow them to shore. Te kombu leaves are huge. Its the largest possible type o Laminaria
ound in a natural habitat.
In order to make our product extract, you have to have a very large, elephant-type o lea so you havelots o the gooey inside parts to squeeze out. Its like aloe vera. When you cut it in hal, you can even
see some o the polysaccharidethat gooey substance inside the lea.
So the divers cut them in shallow waters, probably not more than 15 meters deepwhich is what, like
45 eet deepusually no deeper. Tey put several leaves in a bunch, tie them with a rope, and the little
boat brings them onshore. We gather raw material or our product twice a year.
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Te good thing about collecting this waywhen we do it by handis that when you cut it with a
knie, you come to the same spot next year and the plant will have mushroomed. Youll see our leaves
growing rom exactly the spot where you got only one beore. But i you do it by dragginglike they
do it in the northeast states, Ireland or Japanyou have to look or these plants somewhere else. Its
not going to be sitting in the same spot. Its not going to be in the same bay.
So in our case, when we harvested our rst batch back in 1997, we didnt have enough unds, orce,
and money to hire any dragger or troller to get it. So we had to use divers. It turned out to be the best
investment in our business, because later, we were told that the way we do it helps our business actually
stay in business. Were not araid o losing the raw material because the more product we cut, the more
raw material we can expect to see next year i we come to the same spot.
But this particular kelp, Laminaria, is something only we can harvest in this particular quarter. And
the way we do it is very sensible in all aspects, including the business aspect where simply, the moreproduct you harvest, the more raw material you can expect to see next season. It comes rom territories
close to the islands, but its quite remote rom the continent.
Mike: Sounds like a very ecologically sustainable system o harvesting.
Sergei: Yes, its a clean place. Tat is actually one o the questions retail customers ask when they nd
out about our product: How ar is the source o your seaweed rom Chernobyl? Because its one o
the very ew places that people generally know about in the ex-Soviet Union, you know? But its on
the totally opposite side o the planeta good ten thousand miles away rom that place, and its 600
milesat leastaway rom the rst public sewer system.
Mike: YeahChernobyl is in Western Russia.
Sergei: Tats exactly the point. Chernobyl is in the Ukraine, which is in the western part; its actually
in Europe. So we are talking about islands that are in the ar eastern part o Russia. You cant get any
urther. Its still called Siberia, but Russians call it the Far East. Tis is where Im rom. I was born
and brought up on Sakhalin Island, which is the regional capital. My partner and I are both rom this
region. Tats how business started: I have known o this product or about 20 years.
Mike: So ater you harvest these leaves, you squeeze them to get the juice, dehydrate the juice, and
thats the extract?
Sergei: Its a little bit more complicated than that. We dont just squeeze it, but its not a chemical
process. Ater we pull them to shore, we have to instantly dry them so they dont rot, so we put them on
a wooden ence to dry outits a very ast process, especially i you do it in the sun and the wind, which
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is a constant actor on those shores. And then we put the dried seaweed in little rolls and transport
them to the mainland, where the initial processing takes place.
We put a very small amount o water in to bring them back to lie, which is a very ast process. Tey
absorb an enormous amount o water, but at the same time, we have to use just enough to make the
leaves juicy again. So we skin them, and the outer part o the Laminaria leaves goes into something
that looks like a big meat grinder.
We dont throw away the skin part o kombu leaves, we grind it into something that looks like a paste.
What is let behind o those leaves ater we skin them is very thin, but you can touch it. Its a small
layer, a very thin layer o gel, the inside part o the kombu leaves. We dont put that layer through the
grinder; we cut it into chunks. Tat paste we get ater we put the outer parts through the grinder; the
paste gets mixed with those chunks o the inner part o the kombu leaves, and its squeezed through
cheesecloth-like.
We throw away what stays in the net, because this is actually the harsh part o the seaweed that
humans cannot digest. Te only creatures that actually can eat seaweed and ully digest it, process
it, and turn it into something are the sea urchins and abalone. Tese are the only creatures that can
munch on seaweed and work it through completely, ber-wise. Anyway, that disposal part goes away,
and the batch o gooey substance that was squeezed rom the cloth goes into a cold vacuum blower
its actually called a drying chamberwhere its a low temperature, and we can turn this big chunk o
glue into something that dehydrates and starts to look like a big boulder. Its like a big rock. So we have
to physically crack it into smaller chips and put it in a big, commercial coee grinder. Tis is the nal
step. We turn these chunks o rock into a powder, and this is what Modilan is.
Basically, we cant say that this is a juice o seaweed, because rst o all its dried; its in a powder orm.
By its nature, we can call it an extract, but at the same time its more mechanical extraction, a cold-
water-processing product made by natural means. We dont break anything; we dont take anything
out or add anything in terms o mineral content or composition. We simply make seaweed mineral
qualities available.
Mike: What about the heat? Is there ever any heat processing?
Sergei: No. Tere is no boiling or heating. Its a little bit above room temperature when the leaves
gets squeezed, just because o the mechanics o the process, but the drying process is in a true cold-
dehydration chamber.
Mike: So this probably explains, why your product has such a potent taste and smell. I have some o
your product, and Ive been using it or a while.
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Sergei: It makes a big dierence, yes? We do not kill enzymes.
Mike: Tat was one o my questions.
Sergei: We do not kill the living part, which is actually responsible or mineral transer right ater
you put it in your mouth. Sometimes you denitely taste the dierence, and natural eaters will love
the avor and smell o Modilan powder. But or some people how it tastes comes as a surprise. I you
open up the capsules and put them under your tongue, they bite you!
Tat action actually shows that its a very alive ood. Another thing is i you mix it with water, and just
put it at room temperature or a day or so, it will get rotten very ast. It eats itsel up like crazy. Te
so-called quantum properties o our productwhich is the speed o polysaccharides, you knowis
very high.
Tere are dead oods. Tere are live oods, and then there are super-live oods. And I truly suspect that
we belong to the third category. I you put a good, resh cut o meat out and see what happens to it the
next day, its the same thing with Modilan. You can actually turn this into paste.
I you mix it with water and keep it in the rerigerator, its ne. But i you leave it at room temperature or
at a warm temperature, it really gets rotten very ast, which, again, proves that its a very alive substance.
Mike: And or those consumers, tooespecially in Americawho may not be consumers o a lot o
seaood or sea vegetables, they may nd the taste a little surprising at rst, as I did. But intellectually I
know that thats what I want, because it tells me the potency o this is very real, and that it doesnt havea lot o ller just to make it taste better. Besides, its not like youre chewing on it, youre just swallowing
some capsules.
Sergei: Yes, youre right, there is no ller. We are a small company, administration-wise, and our
product has been made or 10 years now. We dont use any llers, no rice powder. Many manuacturers
o ood supplements do it by deault, because they dont want to clean their machinery oten, and they
want their powders to go into capsules easily. With our product, you really have to stand next to the
encapsulator and do a cleanup regularly. We dont use any llers or preservatives. All you see in the
capsule is just the extract itsel, straight.
And again, the powder itsel has a very interesting and unique taste. For a natural eater, its very
pleasant. Beore I started to make this product, the way I used it was a tablespoon o powder mixed into
a glass o lemon-honey water. Just squeeze hal o a lemon in a glass o water, put a teaspoon o honey
in there, and put a tablespoon o Modilan, and you shake it together because thats the best way to
mix powder in, and you drink it.
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Very ew people can do that because o its very strong taste, so the capsules are the best way to get it,
especially or somebody who is looking to get extra benet rom our product and needing to take more
o it. Eating six or eight capsules a day is very healthyit equals a good level tablespoon o powder. Te
vast majority o people will have a very difcult time consuming that much powder daily, so capsules
are a good way to get it.
Mike: Yes, absolutely. How many pounds o brown seaweed does it take to make one pound o
your product?
Sergei: It depends on the size. Te larger the size o the kombu, the less per kilo. But or about 40
pounds o raw seaweed, only one pound o our powder comes out. So its a 40 to 1 extraction ratio.
With U-FN its about a 150 to 1, because we have to use a lot o seaweed to come up with a single kilo
o U-FN. Its an expensive product, too.
Mike: Do you sell these products in powder orm or only capsules?
Sergei: Only capsules. Te powder orm is available to those who buy it as ingredients or their products,
because most o our business is in manuacturing the substance itsel. Most o our product is sold in
private label situations where people call it dierent names and sell it in dierent situations, marketing
through dierent channels. So they just sell it as-is, or sometimes they mix it with good ingredients
like probiotics or good enzymes. But yes, the product is available in powder, but its not oered or
retail. Our distributors, the ones who sell Modilan in retail, they dont have powder.
Uses or brown seaweed extract
Mike: Now lets talk about some o the uses o your productIve researched rom many reliable
sources that the levels o iodine needed in the human body are much higher than what Western
medicine currently recommends.
Sergei: en times higher.
Mike: In act, iodine is used in breast tissue; its used in prostate gland tissue. I think this is
important to note that the rates o breast cancer in Japan, or example, are signicantly lower than
they are in the United States. Tis is mostly thought to be due to the consumption o two things:
seaweed and green tea.
Sergei: Yes, iodine and antioxidants. Te rst thing that happens to a woman when she develops an
iodine deciency is a problem with her reproductive organs: breast deormation, calcication. Te
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tissue that is supposed to be penetrated by iodine turns into a calcied, sandy looking thing. Tis is
what shows up on the mammogram, and thats the whole story. So again, iodine deciency is not about
lack o iodine in the thyroid only, but its about the results o that.
Mike: Absolutely. I think thats very important to note, because people will tend to think that iodine
is only or the thyroid, but its actually useul. Te next thing that I wanted to mention is that most
peoplenot only in Western society but also around the worldlive in a state o chronic mineral
deciency. Tis is not only the macro-minerals like selenium, which is related to neurological unction;
zinc, which is related to immune unction and healing; and calcium, which controls heart unction,
neurological unction and brain chemistry; but also the trace minerals.
Brown seaweed has all o the 72 dierent trace minerals typically lacking in the bodies o Western
consumers. I cannot overemphasize the importance o getting trace minerals into your body, and this
looks like a great way to do it. Its certainly not the only way, but this is an excellent way.
Sergei: Its an interesting thing that in our productalthough its made o seaweed, which sometimes
just resembles a shade o mineralsyou can nd some o those trace minerals that you nd in seaweed
under the detection limit. In our product, you can actually detect those.
Speaking o selenium, manganese, and the vitamin B group, in Modilan they are presented over
the detection limit. Yes, you call them trace minerals, but in Modilan they test in higher volume.
Tey are still all together. Tey come to you not in a multivitamin pill, where you put dierent
crystallized minerals and vitamins in one batch, but in a natural shape and orm in higher volume
than in regular seaweed.
Mike: Yes, thats a great point. Tis is really a whole plant solution. Tese are not isolated components
that are being combined in an articial way. Tis is right out o the ocean. Its also important to note
that our blood mimics the mineral composition o ocean water.
Sergei: Yes, actually our lymph does. Human lymph and ocean water have the same chemical mineral
composition. Not many people know that, actually. Te juice o seaweed and human lymph are the
samei you cut your nger, and the blood dries out, there is a little yellowish crystal let behind: a
scab. I you cut seaweed, it will yield exactly the same substance on the top when it dries on the lea.
In Japan, wounded soldiers were given juice o seaweed when they didnt have enough blood i just to
keep them alive or several hours beore blood would arrive. Beore they were ermenting seaweed
there, they put it in clay or stone jars with ocean salt to break down the bers, then they ate it. Or they
just chewed on that and spit it out or sucked on the seaweed lea. In Korea, theyre doing a better job
still because they put seaweed in kimchi, where by means o ermentation they kill that ber that we
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remove. But or everybody else, seaweed became a commodity, and it started to sell on the market a
good ty years ago. Everybody makes sure that they eat the whole thing when they buy it.
Mike: Tat seems like a really good way to release the nutrients, through ermentation.
Sergei: Yeah, and it becomes more active, but at the same time it becomes sot, like gum, so you can
work through that broken cellulose. Te ermented oods are great, and i somebody has the luxury o
having time and the place to erment their oods, the Kombu seaweed is one o the best substances you
can erment and eat.
Eating Modilan is probably the same as chewing on seaweed and spitting out the bers. It doesnt
look very good, but its how people in, say, the Mediterranean were eating grapes up until recently.
Tey just chewed on the grape. Tey suck on the juice and then spit the thing out. In Morocco, where
they have oranges growing in the streets, they just bite the ruit, chew it, and spit it out. Te whole
thing about eating ruits, vegetables and especially roots, which are ull o indigestible bers, in the
cultures o people who grow them or were exposed to them by natural deault is they didnt necessarily
eat the whole thing. Tey just chewed on those things. Te same thing is true in Japan: they ermented
it or they sucked on it.
Mike: Yeah. Well, that makes sense. All they really need are the nutrients, not all the cellulose.
Can you talk about the reasons people buy your product? What are they saying is their reason? Because
your product has so many dierent uses.
Sergei: Lets talk about results which is what they get out o this product. Reasons are a dierent
thing. Its all dierent what they see in it, but people usually get the same thing out o it. You get
more energy in your day, regularity in your bathroom trips, and improvement in your skin, hair and
nail conditions. Tese are the basic, little things that people see when they use this product or at
least three to ve weeks. I somebody is interested in having results beyond these obvious, simple
things, i somebody is looking or our product with certain ideas in mind, usually it applies to their
understanding o mineral potency. In our product at the best possible level and availability are mineral
orms o seaweed. Its thyroid support, endocrine system rehabilitation, and everything that applies to
that. Tere are numerous health conditions thatsimply based on endocrine inefciency and thyroid
inactivityinhibit regular body unctions.
So to answer your question directly, people who look or this product, people who want to buy this
product with certain health issues in mind, are the ones who know about mineral iodine as the only
ood or thyroid, everything else comes secondary. When you make your thyroid wake up again and
regulate all the little glands around your body, including the pancreas, gall bladder, kidneys, adrenals,
even the liver, everything will come to you naturally i you simply eed your thyroid with this.
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By its nature, the thyroid is ed by iodine. And were talking about iodine in ionic orm, not liquid rom
a brown bottle. One that comes out o the soil with your water or in the plants you eat in your diet; in
the sea waterwhich we cant gulp much o anywayand in the seaood, in sh, and in shellsh. But
the largest, molecule-wise, ionic orm o iodine you can nd is in seaweed. Again, to eat seaweed itsel
is not the way to get the iodine delivered; you cant get that much seaweed into your system because
its ull o cellulose.
So, the main result people are looking or is relie rom thyroid-related issues, and also the detox
quality o alginates, which people have known o or a long time.
Origins o Modiflan
Sergei: Modilan was created in the late 60s in the Soviet Union at a time when alginates were already
researched and studied. Sodium alginateschemical extracts rom seaweedwere widely known andused or detox purposes, but it was all IV application, where the sodium alginates were mixed with this
liquid and put directly into the vein. It was very complicated, there were side eects, it had to be done
in a true hospital setting, and it was expensive.
Te whole idea with Modilan was to deliver all the mineral qualitiesincluding alginates, which
was the mineral they were aterin a concentrated juice o seaweed. Tey simply made alginates
available by eliminating an obstacle in the bodythe cellulose. So that was actually the whole idea o
Modilan. It was made in the Soviet Union or many years, but in very small quantities. It was not very
well known or available to most o the publicmostly just people involved in situations where they had
a certain degree o environmental exposure to toxicity, ionic radiation, and contamination.
Ater Chernobyl in 1986, it was rst made in a larger quantity. About three tons o Modilan was
produced, all at once, ater Chernobyl blew up. Tat was the rst timeand the last time, actuallythat
Modilan was produced in the Soviet Union in that quantity. Ten the Soviet Union went apart, and
even Chernobyl became a good case study or Modilan in terms o its applications beyond alginates
only. Unortunately, the Soviet Union disbanded, and all o this inormation became unwanted and too
complicated, and the product was too expensive to make at the very beginning in Russia.
Mike: As I understand, there were some very positive results in helping people eliminate radiation,and even the chemical detoxication o this plant is documented in other contexts as well.
Sergei: Actually, more than 2,000 people were taking Modilan on a daily basis or about two months
under the supervision o doctors. Tese were the guys who were re-excavating the whole area around
Chernobyl and changing the sewage system out. wo thousand people in a very geographically enclosed
situation were eating about two tablespoons per day, so it was actually a good case study or the product.
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Tere was something in this product that medical doctors didnt know about, because again, the only
use that Modilan was known or was the detox qualities o alginates. But the people who started
to take this product in a very unhealthy situation developed an interesting reaction to this products
use, even when they had pre-existing health conditions. Most o those people working around the
Chernobyl area were reserve-drated people, ex-military men age 25 to 45. Most o those guys
especially i youre talking about those older than 40had quite a ew unhealthy things in their lives.
Using Modilan by deault on that many people at the same time, people who were sleeping together,
eating the same ood and all, that was a good thing or the research.
Mike: One o the things that really attracted me to this product is the act that so many Westerners
have literally hundreds o toxic synthetic chemicals in their bodies. You can not live in society today
at least not in the United Stateswithout being exposed to all o these dierent chemicals that become
embedded in your heart, your kidneys, liver, brain and many other organs. One o the things that was
really exciting to me about your product was that Ive read a lot o very reliable research talking aboutthe ability o sea vegetables to not only protect us rom these toxic chemicals, but in some sense to help
us detoxiy those chemicals as well. Can you speak to that in any way?
Sergei: Yes, I can. Many o our proessional customers are licensed medical proessionals, true MDs
or NMDs, who use this product or detoxication qualities. Being an absolutely natural product,
Modilan is a very good alternative to biochemical chelation protocols. Sometimes you have to spend
a lot o money to be very strict about your diet and supplement yoursel with many minerals, because
to chelate using chemically ormulated protocols means you deplete your own mineral spectrum.
Speaking o the side eects o biochemical chelation protocols, Modilan is a winner when detoxing,because the detox or healing crisis eect is very mild. So yes, i you use our product in a situation where
one is contaminated, like o-chart PPM levels o mercury, lead, uranium or strontiumespecially
those metals that do not belong to the nutritional table o metalsusing this product or about three
to our months, in a quantity o six capsules a day or an average-size body, will make people clean.
A good proo o this would be to do the same thing or three or our months ater you start using our
product. Usually it takes about six to eight bottles o product used over a period o three to our months
to start to see a dierence. A hair or urine test will give a great truth in terms o numbers, but the
main dierence people will see is in how they eel. When they start to take this product, in about threeto ve weekswhich seems to be an average introduction period or people with health conditions,
especially i there is toxicity involvedthey will go through a detox stage that never lasts longer than
a week, and its very mild. It doesnt happen to everybody, every time that they take this product, but
people will be aware o some o that eect. I its heavy metal contamination, you can count on this
product to do a very good job with a very modest level o detox symptoms.
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Te anti-cancer connection
Mike: Is there anything you can talk about, or are there any supporting studies about this seaweed
stopping tumor growth, or anything you can share?
Sergei: Tere are many studies on mineral qualities o seaweed as the source o anticancerous agents,
especially an element called ucoidan.
Since our product oers everything seaweed has in the most potent and bioavailable digestible orm,
whatever your readers can nd on the quite extensive range o health benets o seaweed, will be in
Modilan. I cannot go into the subject deeper than that, but I can say one thing: Whatever you see or
read about brown seaweed, expect our product to deliver this at the best level in terms o its potency,
volume, and bioavailablity.
I youre talking about ucoidan itsel, its evaporated oligomineral that has been very well known ora long time. Its been researched, studied, and described widely, and there are even some ucoidan
products available now in ood supplement orm. Mostly these are multi-level marketing eorts.
In our product, we have this elementthis mineralby deault and by natural occurrence; its not an
extract that we have to put in. Its in absolute, synergetic, natural combination with other elements like
iodine, protein, selenium, manganese, magnesium, and all the things that make a ood a ood. Its very
modest in terms o its volume i you do a simple chemical test or how much o that is in Modilan,
but the way it comes in Modilan is absolutely natural.
So yes, our product can be successully used to prevent, control, and ght problems involving health
conditions. We are denitely not turning this product into a medicine. Many o our clients are
licensed medical proessionals who nd this product useul in their practice as a tool, or they send
their patients to buy this product in certain situations. Tat makes us very rm believers in what we
do and make here.
Modilan is our basic product, but we also make a product called U-FN. Its another product made
rom exactly the same type o extraction process as Modilan, with some additional potassium and
calcium to stabilize and enhance one particular mineral element in the kombuits the ucoidan in
a bioavailable orm, a type you can eat which still delivers. I we go back to your question about thepossible help people with cancer can get rom our product, they may expect Modilan to help them in
this situation, but it is not a product that simply delivers more o ucoidan mineral qualities.
With everything else, Modilan is a better product. For detox, or thyroid support in terms o mineral
iodine content, Modilan is a better product to use, but U-FN is a product that needs to be looked at
by those who are looking or ucoidan.
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Mike: Fucoidan is not technically a mineralisnt it man-made?
Sergei: No. Its actually a created substance, yes.
Mike: We would call it a phytonutrient.
Sergei: Evaporated oligomineral is what they actually call it. I you do a detection o ucoidan in our
product, there is some in it.
Burning body at with ucoxanthin
Mike: People are excited about the research showing that brown seaweed contains a certain nutrient
named ucoxanthin which burns at. Now, you talk about something thats interesting to Western
consumers, burning at is a big concern.
Sergei: Tats the big hype in your world.
Mike: Yes, theres a lot o interest in it. Ive covered a lot o dietary products, and the impression that
most people get is not truethat they can just continue eating all their unhealthy oods, ollowing an
unhealthy liestyle, and thinking that one certain supplement is going to magically make them look
thin or athletic. Tats simply not the case.
Sergei: Especially i they will talk about a particular pigment ound in brown seaweed, which I thinksoon theyre going to sell in an extracted orm. It looks like this particular pigmentwhich was
mentioned in these studiesis going to be sold in Costco in a bottle, an inexpensive one, and it will
say, Tis burns at. Read the papers.
My take is that I think they approached it rom the wrong angle. I think that brown seaweeds
eectiveness in a weight loss situation is all about making your metabolic speed higher through eeding
your thyroid with mineral iodine, which the endocrine system benets rom. You will seem to process
calories aster and take up energy in a better, aster, more benecial, and natural way.
Im in total disagreement with the piece that appeared in Timemagazine about it. Everybody called
here ater that went out. I love it, but at the same time I eel shame because soon people will go
overboard with this. It will take maybe a ew weeks, maybe a ew months, but then the magic thing,
ucoxanthin, maybe mixed with some drinks, mixed with some vitamins or oods will start appearing
in the ood supplements section. But it has nothing to do with the true benet o seaweed which I
think is making the endocrine system perorm better, and as a result, increasing metabolic speed.
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Mike: Well, I agree completely, Sergei, and I think that or anyone to talk about losing weight while
they are simultaneously suering rom malnutrition and mineral deciencies is ridiculous. What people
need to do rst to lose weight is start nourishing their bodies, not with more calories, but with more
real ood and high-density ood like the whole plant with all o the nutrients in synergy.
Tere is certainly a danger that what may happen with this news is exactly what happened with the
hoodia gordoniiits being hyped up as a major weight loss aid, but 80 percent o the raw material now
being purchased by supplement manuacturers is actually countereit. Te problem is theres so much
demand or it.
Sergei: Te rst time I heard the word hoodia, you know what happened? Its probably going to be a
new thing or you, because you dont know Russian, right?
Mike: Ah, no.
Sergei: Hoodoi means thin in Russian. Te rst time I heard the product called hoodia, it made
a certain click in my head. Hoodoi means thin; hoodet, the verb itsel, means to lose weight. So
when I heard the word and I started to sense all this very strong marketing eort behind it, it was
double trouble in my headthe name itsel, and the way they sold it.
Mike: Well, but you know, i this inormation does catch hold, you could nd yoursel swept up in a
whirlwind, actually, whether you want to be or not, where brown seaweed is actually being discredited
because people will try some other countereit version o it.
Sergei: No, they simply will just buy brown seaweed, and theyll go to the Whole Foodswhich I
love; its where I buy my oodthey will nd out that brown seaweed is a kelp and that kelp is a kombu.
Teyll go to the whole oods and buy kombu in a powder, a very thin, very ne looking powder that
looks okay to our eye.
But ask our colon how it looks and eels to this part o the body. Its like a piece o shrapnel going down,
scratching everything o on its way. So people will simply buy Kombu, theyll start to eat more o that
compared to what they did beore i they ate any, and they will develop diarrhea. Tey will develop
constipation. Tey will have an excessive amount o iodine in their gut, because the sludge in the lower
part o the GI tract will never get processed properly because its non-soluble ber.
Expect this to be one o the major problems or those who jump on the idea o eating kombu in
larger quantities. China put it in print today. Time magazine had it delivered into the mailboxes o
millions o people around the world. I see people this weekend reading this material on the Internet
or in newspapers or in magazines, then theyll go to Whole Foods stores and ask i they have brown
seaweed. Teyll say, Yes, o course. Tere it is. A ew bucks a kilo or whatever, and theyll start to
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eat it by the teaspoon or tablespoon, God orbid, and you see what will happen one week ater thata
very, very serious problem.
Mike: Just to clariy, too, the dierence between that raw product and your product is that the non-
extracted product has all o that undigestible cellulose, correct?
Sergei: Yes. Our product is a ully soluble substance. Its a soluble ber. It does not produce any sludge;
you cant nd any sand in there when you mix it with water.
Brown seaweed or muscle building
Mike: Okay. Ive got one more question or you. Tis one concerns the people who are involved in
strength training or body building. Myostatins are substances that inhibit the signal that turns o
muscle growth. So the theory isand this is all just theory at this point, I dont know that theres anyresearch on iti you take myostatins and youre working out, then you will grow muscles larger than
normal because the signals are being controlled by the myostatins.
Tere are, in act, some nutritional supplements in the body building community that are ocused on
these myostatins to control or regulate muscle growth. Its my understanding that the polysaccharides
in brown seaweed also contain some amount o this. Are you amiliar with that or is that something
youve looked at?
Sergei: No, but I sometimes say Modilan is good or natural doping, because, again, its a means o
eeding your thyroid and controlling your adrenals. You simply have more energy, you are truly awake,and you have more power. Its as simple as that.
I somebody exercises regularly and they take our product, they sit-up, push-up, pull-up more than i
theyre not eating this product. But to answer your question, no. I didnt know about anything o that
particular nature in our product. So I cant say that we had any detection o this in Modilan, in our
works, or in the sales eorts o those who oer this product to the bodybuilding community. I suspect
that using our product will be a helpul thing to do, because those who nd the muscle growth in
active exercise balance will just be stronger. Tey will pump more iron.
Its simple. You will run longer distances, and you will catch your breath aster, but only ones who trulyexercise regularly can see this. A healthy eater, when they start to eat our product, they wont see any o
that detox eectits only energy, regularity, things like that. Sometimes its just a ew days ater you
start Modilan that you start to eel that.
Mike: Well, to summarize some o the benets were talking about: endocrine unction, immune
unction, the adrenals and thyroid, also part o the endocrine system. Any other benets?
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Sergei: Te simple things are hair, nails, skin, energy throughout the day, gastrointestinal problems
o a lighter type. When people have acid reux, eating our product helps a lot with digestion patterns.
It regulates appetite, too. People who eat our product, eat less. Eating our product makes you eel that
particular limit. Lets say youre eating your breakast, you eel that l ine where youre satised with your
ood, when you eel ull, aster and more clearly when you take Modilan. Its an interesting eect.
Mike: Yeah, I completely second that. I think that part o that may be the reduction o cravings, also,
through the mineralization.
Sergei: Probably so, but I was told some weird things like hormonal happiness, hormonal being ull,
which adults lack. With a kid, when the little guy doesnt want to eat any more porridge, hell twist his
head and spit it out where we adults will usually eat whatever is let on our plate.
Te same thing applies with the lion. It catches the cow, munches it, and eats like crazy, then at one
point, boom: He just ips on his side. Ten, i another cow comes over and licks his nose, he will not
even pay attention. Its the same thing with hormonal happiness. So doctors know that there is a strong
connection between how people eel themselves mentally and endocrines.
Tat is why sometimes taking our product brings, what people call, a sensation o wellness. Its one o
the things that we can proudly announce. I know that it will all into the category o medical claims but
knowing this product mysel very well and having it given away or a long time until we made it our
business, makes me very proud o saying it beyond the reason o now its being sold because we make it.
We are a very small companytwo men, two productsbut weve been doing this or ten years. We
are not new. You said it right, in certain alternative circles were known very well. Many natural doctors
know our product, and most o this is sold under the traditional, regional trade name. Dieticians,
holistic chiropractors, kinesiologists, and all these kinds o weird doctors sell it.
We passed a clinical study or type 2 diabetes with one o our private label customers. Its a medical
clinic in Seattle that sells under a dierent name, but or type 2 hemoglobin HbA1c, hemoglobin
serum test, 100 percent success. It lowers serum, and it makes people with type 2 diabetes go o their
medication in about three to ve weeks. ype 1 will take less insulin; lets say one shot instead o three
shots o insulin daily when they take Modilan. People who eat this product or about three to ve
weeks and have been on centroid or hormones or 20 years, they can get o those too.
Mike: I never would have thought o using this product or diabetes. Tats really interesting to know,
and perhaps we can explore that urther in another interview. Tanks or joining us today, Sergei.
Sergei: Its been a pleasure.
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