Paltalk: This is a G rated text only room intended for a General Audience including minors. Offensive language is not permitted.Paltalk: LOOKeuro_pean: Hi kiwi, thanks for posting/editing yesterdays chat scripts kiwichamp: Hi kiwichamp: all -- just woke up kiwichamp: you are welcomeeuro_pean: lol, it's slow on here anywaykiwichamp: I see thatkiwichamp: did not miss muchPaltalk: ===================================Please support our sponsors by clicking on banners.==========================================mjdwyer: Kiwi - thanks for your post on Zones.kiwichamp: welcome sovo1: gm kiwikiwichamp: gm euro_pean: no, not sure if it's usefull but i save chat by Ctrl + A (select all), than Copy and Paste into a new Word.doc - this way all formatting and colors are therekiwichamp: might work kiwichamp: better -- we have had trouble saving especially once the chats get bigger

euro_pean: doesn't crash my paltalk kiwichamp: paltalk crashes kiwichamp: ok thanks kiwichamp: will try that euro_pean: i will save it as wellkiwichamp: thanks kiwichamp: appreciate that kiwichamp: how many calculated the zones and arrived at the same results as Kaveh posted today ?euro_pean: there are still different versions of doing itkiwichamp: mmmd_thorpey: i got the same buy zonekiwichamp: goodd_thorpey: sell zone is around yesterday's highkiwichamp: okd_thorpey: do we have to work it out again before the us open using the uk low/high?kiwichamp: yes I think so -- d_thorpey: it would make sensekaveh_48: no u cantkaveh_48: cz UK markets very slowkiwichamp: Hi Kaveh kaveh_48: i told u when u can use this when when uk fastkiwichamp: ok -- that makes sense kaveh_48: hi kiwikiwichamp: right ok -- kaveh_48: how are u ?kiwichamp: just waking up kiwichamp: but doing fine -- thanks kaveh_48: okkiwichamp: this whole week has been slow hasnt it

kaveh_48: yeskaveh_48: happen this when 400pips move lastweekkiwichamp: yes -- working at night gets a bit hard sometimes -- but worth it -- I dont like missing being here kiwichamp: right -- consolidation week kaveh_48: this week is gold week not eur weekkiwichamp: mmm should have been looking at gold kiwichamp: can you use the same strategies on gold ?kiwichamp: as on euro ?Paltalk: ===================================Are banners a bummer and popups a pain?Cure your banner blues NOW!Get Paltalk Plus pr Paltalk X-treme!==========================================kaveh_48: i will post last system to tsdkiwichamp: ok thanks

fxbamdad: Gartley on GBP m30 kaveh_48: not samekiwichamp: ok kiwichamp: thanks sovo1: everyone is tired waiting for the market.sovo1: thanks kaveh.kiwichamp: yes I am sure sovo1: looking forward to read new trading on goldkiwichamp: especially those of us who are trying to be here at difficult hours for us kiwichamp: yes -- my new broker has gold so I look forward to that too sovo1: yes, i am sleepy at the momentkiwichamp: I am suresovo1: need my doze of coffee. lolkiwichamp: I decided to rest for 1 hour -- and mmm 6 hours later -- here I am kiwichamp: I just made some -- sovo1: well, you did not miss anything today.kiwichamp: no I see that sovo1: I think i am going to rest for a while,kiwichamp: ok sovo1: hopefully not 6 hrs like yousovo1: lolkiwichamp: hahaagent orange_3: you mentioned reading the new trading on gold. Is that on the thread or will it be a new thread, or did you mean in here?kiwichamp: Kaveh is going to post it on the thread kiwichamp: tsdagent orange_3: thanks youkiwichamp: welcome thanks to Kavehagent orange_3: thanks kavehPaltalk: ===================================You should SEE what you've been missing!!!Get a Paltalk subscription NOW and you can get fast motion video in ANY group! And as an added bonus you get NO banners and NO popups!==========================================samsamsam_30: I need a dose of pips

LLBHONS: i need an overdose of pips samsamsam_30: hehesamsamsam_30: anyine here heard of level 2 data

kiwichamp: no samsamsam_30: kaveh is this the theory of that expensive datad_thorpey: yes i've heard of level 2 dataArdi1899: What is that?kiwichamp: unless it means the data that comes out in news posted on the calendars as secondary samsamsam_30: nokiwichamp: if you look at the calendars -- some news is posted in bold kiwichamp: no ? -- ok samsamsam_30: bids and offers by big instkiwichamp: ok d_thorpey: i used to use level 2 data when i traded NASDAQ sharessamsamsam_30: how did it go for youkiwichamp: what is it d_thorpey ?agent orange_3: level 2 shows bids and sells etckiwichamp: okd_thorpey: it was good. you can see orders in the market but it was provided by the NASDAQ exchange. i always wondered if they did it for forexagent orange_3: this will give you an idea http://daytrading.about.com/cs/nasdaqlevelii/a/level_ii.htmkiwichamp: thanksd_thorpey: i expect the banks can use it for forexkiwichamp: I am sure agent orange_3: I have used it for trading shares, but got rid as too much information. I prefer to keep things simplekiwichamp: yep you can get overloaded for sure d_thorpey: you know anything about it sam?kiwichamp: and end up with what is known as "analize paralize" agent orange_3: too right kiwi samsamsam_30: no not mcuhPaltalk: ===================================Click banners to visit our sponsors.==========================================d_thorpey: does any body know anything about non dealing desk brokerssamsamsam_30: ive looked at coeskiwichamp: coes is one kiwichamp: no "middle man" -- you trade direct with the banksd_thorpey: do you have several quotes to choose from?kiwichamp: not sure about that kiwichamp: http://www.coesfx.com/Topcat275: mbtradingfx.comkiwichamp: good idea to go to these companies and ask them some direct questionskiwichamp: and hopefully you will get direct answers Topcat275: 5 $ to buy one contractd_thorpey: ok thanks guys im doing some research now and i'll let you know if i find anything interestingkiwichamp: thanks appreciate that d_thorpeymoneyline_X: Hi Everyone, Not much action tonight...huh?Ardi1899: not yetsamsamsam_30: tonightsamsamsam_30: where r ukiwichamp: Hi moneyline moneyline_X: Maybe when NY is on we'll get some pips.kiwichamp: yes kiwichamp: you get some good rest ?

kiwichamp: I have only been here 1 hr moneyline_X: I'm in Ensenada, Mexico and California.kiwichamp: yes and it is a bit tough following the european sessions -- moneyline_X: Yes, Kiwichamp, I got some rest. How 'bout you?kiwichamp: yes thanks moneyline -- went to rest for 1 hr and woke up 6 hrs

later

Ardi1899: moneyline_X: Yeah, the European session is nothing like NY.moneyline_X: The news was hardly worth it...kiwichamp: when things are moving european session can be easier than NY kiwichamp: NY can get wild moneyline_X: But when they don't....it's boring!kiwichamp: news most of this week has not been worth it kiwichamp: yes you are right moneyline_X: yesterday wasn't too bad!kiwichamp: Kaveh pointed out -- last week move was 400 pips - so this week it has been consolidating kiwichamp: no truemoneyline_X: No true? Please explain...

kiwichamp: sorry -- two comments in one -- I was responding to your comment "yesterday wasnt too bad" --- No (it wasnt) -- true (it wasnt too

bad) kiwichamp: English shortcuts -- kiwichamp: at least kiwis tend to do that -- think we get it from our English heritage -- moneyline_X: OK, I seemoneyline_X: So, did anybody get some pips from the news? I got a fewArdi1899: .when? how?moneyline_X: I got some from the "Nervous Nellies" during Euro and GBP news...right at the startPaltalk: ===================================Please support our sponsors by clicking on banners.==========================================moneyline_X: Hey Kiwichamp, you check your mail?kiwichamp: yes kiwichamp: thanks moneyline -- in the process of reading -- kiwichamp: great stuffradicalmoses: hello roomkiwichamp: Hi Radical moses kiwichamp: how are you today ?Pip Hunter: how are we doing today?radicalmoses: wassup broradicalmoses: not fine..lolradicalmoses: got whupped todayPip Hunter: whacked?radicalmoses: sideways movementmoneyline_X: Guys, we had a big spike at 13 CET, what was that?moneyline_X: What's upmoneyline_X: whupped?d_thorpey: kiwi u there?kiwichamp: yesd_thorpey: on the coes homepage it shows what i am familiar with by a level2 screen

Ardi1899: test..kiwichamp: ok great kiwichamp: thanks d_thorpey

rsl_a06: d_thorpey: if you run your mouse over the order tickets you can see the price tiers and order quantity etcradicalmoses: anyone managed to get AdvncedGet software running??kiwichamp: ok radicalmoses: thorpey, u did download it right?d_thorpey: whats that?radicalmoses: advancedGet software?radicalmoses: elliot wave softwared_thorpey: no i didnt download it sorryradicalmoses: oh okradicalmoses: anyone that did?radicalmoses: and got it to run?kiwichamp: noone seems to have the answer moneyline -- to your question about the spike moneyline_X: OK, no problom. Here's the upcoming news..it's gonna be a big day!moneyline_X: Guys, what does this mean? Your last text messsage was not sent because it contained line feed characters or excess spaces.moneyline_X: Can you see my news schedules?kiwichamp: maybe sent something that had some == or characters that this software does not read kiwichamp: no moneyline_X: Maybe, what a waste of time !!!kiwichamp: sorry about that moneyline_X: I was just posting the schedule from the Forex Factory...thanks Kiwichamp.kiwichamp: no problem - perhaps just the link http://www.forexfactory.comkiwichamp: most have it Ardi1899: maybe this will help http://www.forexfactory.com/?page=calendarmoneyline_X: So, any personal views on long range prospects for the USD?kiwichamp: kkaveh_48: see eur manytimes test near pivotkaveh_48: this is kind of palying test in forexmoneyline_X: Yeah, I noticed that earlier Kavehkaveh_48: markets test some level befor usa markets openArdi1899: so what will it be?Fet0r: deep flat today in european session, looks we gonna break range at us Fet0r: everyone is waiting for newsmoneyline_X: I've read about that at the Forex FactoryPaltalk: ===================================To visit our sponsors, click on banners!==========================================kaveh_48: at this time big trader and big back setup his positionskaveh_48: meanskaveh_48: bankFet0r: orders ? kaveh_48: yesFet0r: alrightkiwichamp: so some action will happen soon

kiwichamp: ?moneyline_X: Kaveh, how the the big boys test for S/R ?Fet0r: i have read many times that when there is total flat during european session, market is waiting for us session newsqtrader-re: good morning kaveh and allmoneyline_X: You betcha!Fet0r: himoneyline_X: good morning!kiwichamp: good morningkaveh_48: this week markets was confued Fet0r: most of the time it happens before payrolls numbermoneyline_X: Terribly!kaveh_48: but i think we have better move todayFet0r: NFP i meantmoneyline_X: I hope so!kaveh_48: most of time happen CPI AND PPIkaveh_48: dataFet0r: you mean bouncing like yesterday?kaveh_48: az u see this week eur move only 180pipsmoneyline_X: Not this time. The reports for GBP were also confusingkaveh_48: maybeFet0r: you mean like yesterday when price bounced ?kaveh_48: must seekaveh_48: yesFet0r: hmm chat is stuck for me, i cant see what i type lolmoneyline_X: I mean when the report came in this AM, just a few hours agoFet0r: ermFet0r: my chat got stuckFet0r: had to rejoinFet0r: kaveh you said "happenes most with ppi and cpi"Fet0r: what did you mean?moneyline_X: Thos eare to measuers of inflation in the USA Fet0r: yes, but what "happens" most with those news ?Fet0r: the bounce we saw yesterday, he meant ?Fet0r: or flat before news ?moneyline_X: We get some good action, lots of travelFet0r: i think we can set breakout orders at 2650 and 2560 , what do you think ?moneyline_X: Are those the numbers from using Kaveh's method for zones? kiwichamp: yesmoneyline_X: I tried doing them myself but had a 9 pip differnce...anybody else had a huge difference?kiwichamp: take a look at last post on TSD -- kiwichamp: thanks to Fet0r moneyline_X: I see, noticed those yesterdaykiwichamp: good - just posted the last one -- from Fet0r moneyline_X: Fet0r, as to breakout at any specific price...I don't know. Seems like the news is a little too "iffy" for any particular strategy.kaveh_48: thx fet0r to your postkiwichamp: yes very clear explanationkaveh_48: and kiwi tookiwichamp: Fet0r -- having trouble with paltalk ?moneyline_X: Excellent post Fet0r, thanks!

alexw8: hi roommoneyline_X: Hi!kaveh_48: az you see again eur goes up to test a high but failedkaveh_48: hialexw8: hi kavehalexw8: hi moneylineFet0r: backFet0r: sorry my internet diedalexw8: any trade today?kaveh_48: thx fet0r for postFet0r: Np anytime!Fet0r: Guys before my internet died, I asked your opinion on placing breakout orders at 2560 and 2650 ?Fet0r: what do you think about it, kaveh ?kaveh_48: i dont think somoneyline_X: As in straddling a hedge Fet0r?kaveh_48: cz markets from this week very confusedFet0r: tho orders are really far , i think if we gonna get to them ,we will breakkaveh_48: today only wait when strong break this zone Fet0r: ye I mean strong breakoutkaveh_48: or bouncekaveh_48: yesmoneyline_X: Momentumkaveh_48: today eur only move 40pipsFet0r: Anything can happen today, alot of newskaveh_48: very slow marketsFet0r: kaveh its cause everyone waits for us news, i assume kaveh_48: juice meanskaveh_48: yeskaveh_48: today FCB tookaveh_48: and TICS Fet0r: there are Empire State Building index out in 20 mins, then TICs in 50 mins, then industrial production in 2 hours kaveh_48: only today wait to find trend marketsFet0r: alot of important news i must sayPaltalk: ===================================Please visit our advertisers by clicking on banners.==========================================kaveh_48: TICS and FCB very importantFet0r: what is FCB ?bill3002: federal central bank = fcbnaturalnetbg: bernankekaveh_48: Fed Bernanke kaveh_48: speekFet0r: ahh FCB meeting at 18:15cet ?kaveh_48: yesFet0r: alright , im aware of that Fet0r: i dont think there will be breakout before TICSFet0r: whats up with GBP, its stuck at maximumkaveh_48: 14:00 est FCBkaveh_48: EUR goes test again low in uk markets

Fet0r: ohh yes right, it gonna take place at 20cet , mess it with Fed's Kroszner speech in NY at 18:15cetkaveh_48: az u see all of trade in London dont know the direction of marketskaveh_48: big buy near lowkaveh_48: and big sell near highkaveh_48: only thay are waiting for us open marketskaveh_48: az u see 8pips fall near highx_trader: how are you guys positioned towards the news ?Paltalk: ===================================GO GREEN or BLUE to stop ads and support Paltalk! Subscribe today!==========================================x_trader: Kaveh are u long or short USD into the news ?kaveh_48: no short and no buykaveh_48: i want to see reaction of marketsx_trader: okkaveh_48: when us openkaveh_48: az u see agine big sell near highkiwichamp: yes cable touched weekly pivot - -and bounced back immediatelykaveh_48: all of trader in London dont know the trend of markets like me like you and......kaveh_48: the startegy of this trader is buy near low and sell near highFet0r: waiting for TICS data, it should move market Fet0r: do you think we could use this strategy for TICS data ?Fet0r: buy near 2560 and sell at 2650 ?kaveh_48: maybe yesArdi1899: juice is rising but near pivotagent orange_3: traders in London are more interested in the England game todaykaveh_48: waiting for break buy zone in this confued marketsFet0r: you wont buy in buy zone ?kaveh_48: if break i will sell and bounce i will longFet0r: it bounced around 80

Fet0r: still not buy zone Paltalk: ====SECURITY BULLETIN!=======Your password is your responsibility. Entering your password anywhere but on a paltalk.com web site means you are likely giving your account to a hacker. Paltalk cannot be responsible for your security since it is beyond our control if you give your account away at a 'hacker' site. Paltalk cannot be responsible for 3rd party payments and any dispute must be between you and the person who paid for the account.kaveh_48: this not buy zone trader cash his postions at80kaveh_48: nothing moreFet0r: what do you mean cash his position ?Fet0r: closed ?kaveh_48: yesFet0r: must be big trader kaveh_48: confoued markets like yesterdaykaveh_48: big spike and big back

Fet0r: internet died again Paltalk: ===================================Please support our sponsors by clicking on banners.==========================================kaveh_48: only trade eur middel of zonekaveh_48: eur only traded middel of zone meanskaveh_48: and COG under 0.1818kaveh_48: didnt find directionFet0r: second try now on TICS release kaveh_48: 3min?d_thorpey: 7 minkaveh_48: yesFet0r: gonna test high soon LLBHONS: US TIC data for April. Inflows of $60.0bn are forecast. $69.8bn was the March inflow figure.kaveh_48: waing to break sell zonekaveh_48: watingbill3002: 46b instead of 60bpayale: very bad numberbholiday: tkaveh_48: bull and bear near sell zoneFet0r: very bad TICS data, we gonna break sell zone soon i thinkPaltalk: ===================================Are banners a bummer and popups a pain?Cure your banner blues NOW!Get Paltalk Plus pr Paltalk X-treme!==========================================kaveh_48: but waiting for this crazy marketsLLBHONS: 1.8500 (yesterday"s high) now represents a pullback support point.Pardeus: we have two more reports at 9:15 ESTradicalmoses: managed 33pipsradicalmoses: markets are too wildkaveh_48: not to break sell zone for next trypayale: looks like some option related barriers, i gueskaveh_48: $1.7 bil at 10estbill3002: production fellkaveh_48: yeskaveh_48: big vtop at 60Fet0r: how do you know, cause price bounced ?kaveh_48: yepFet0r: i hope we wont stay in range today, lolPaltalk: ===================================You should SEE what you've been missing!!!Get a Paltalk subscription NOW and you can get fast motion video in ANY group! And as an added bonus you get NO banners and NO popups!==========================================kaveh_48: die near 30kaveh_48: 30 is %38.2 last moveArdi1899: maybe we should wait until the macth is overeuro_pean: ?Ardi1899: world cupagent orange_3: England v trinidad

Fet0r: when it begin ?agent orange_3: 17:00 GMTArdi1899: 1 hour and 20 minutes and countdownFet0r: in 1houe and 20 mins ?Ardi1899: sorryArdi1899: 2 hourArdi1899: (s)euro_pean: markets don't stop for football !!!moneyline_X: LOL !!!kiwichamp: this week it has seemed that some traders have been sidetracked

Ardi1899: It seems so svirgo: gm alllArdi1899: gmalexw8: gmkiwichamp: gnsvirgo: kiwi thanks for the infor recap on the zonesmoneyline_X: Well, bed time for me..see all of you tonight. God bless !!kiwichamp: you too moneyline Ardi1899: See you moneylinekiwichamp: welcome svirgo -- thanks to Fet0ralexw8: cu moneylinesvirgo: btw, when does asia session begins and end - cet time?sovo1: good night money..sweet pips in your dreamsovo1: lolkiwichamp: see the may on tsd kiwichamp: it is very good to show session open and closes kiwichamp: map kiwichamp: posted by Naturalnetbgsvirgo: i seekiwichamp: Asia begins at 6pm EST and closes 4am EST (Japan)svirgo: i guess the time in bold would be the cet time?kiwichamp: the map shows EST and GMT kiwichamp: bold is GMTkiwichamp: sorry ESTsvirgo: cet is gmt+1?Paltalk: ===================================Click banners to visit our sponsors.==========================================kiwichamp: yes and +2 daylight saving timechildtrader: Now is +2childtrader: remmember DST timekiwichamp: http://www.worldtimeserver.com/current_time_in_CO.aspxsvirgo: Excellent! - little nuances but its all goodArdi1899: Maybe this is a silly question, but I'm curious. Why some country use DST?and some aren't?kiwichamp: that is a very good question -- Ardi1899: for what purpose?kiwichamp: Mexico does now -- but they did not for a long time Rupp6: yeah its screwyRupp6: Japan does NOTkiwichamp: to give an hour extra to enjoy the evening while it is still lightRupp6: and that messes up our synchronization with tokyo marketkiwichamp: yep

Ardi1899:

Ardi1899: that's it?kiwichamp: In Invercargill New Zealand we can still play outside at 10pm !! still light enough kiwichamp: most southern city of NZ

Rupp6: kiwichamp: yes -- thats the reason -- to give more time to enjoy the evenings outside in the summertime

sovo1: Ardi1899: mmmeuro_pean: I like North of NZ - it's warmer

kiwichamp: kiwichamp: sub-tropical Ardi1899: Thanks Kiwikiwichamp: welcome Ardisvirgo: testBarry411: price in the sell zone now, what do we do now?euro_pean: I missed some of todays' chat, will it appear on TSD?kaveh_48: with this juice only waitBarry411: okkiwichamp: yes it chat will be posted on tsdkaveh_48: for friday low for eur in US marketskaveh_48: 1.2580euro_pean: thxeuro_pean: going downkaveh_48: ice breaksvirgo: Kaveh, how long have you been using this buy - sell zone formula?Paltalk: ===================================Please support our sponsors by clicking on banners.==========================================

ASER_AL3UN: kaveh_48: i have order 1.2650 and first target 1.2670kaveh_48: buystopArdi1899: without juice?kaveh_48: you are right cz juice on 15mins die tooeuro_pean: methink it will go down not upArdi1899: 4H trend is upkaveh_48: one of my reason of this order near 50 is see 1min chartskaveh_48: big move when eur touch 20kaveh_48: mens vbotkaveh_48: meanseuro_pean: what is 'vbot'?kiwichamp: VBottomeuro_pean: thxkaveh_48: only R1 hold eur this leve;kaveh_48: levelPaltalk: ===================================To visit our sponsors, click on banners!==========================================Fet0r: what VBottom means , mates ? im not familiar with this termFet0r: R1 is 1,2659 , right ?

kaveh_48: fibo R1kaveh_48: 1.2620Fet0r: i seealexw8: camarilladt7 fibo R1=1.2620Fet0r: yeFet0r: we bounced from R1 (1,2659)Fet0r: maybe we gonna break it soonkaveh_48: all data was bad for $ but not break sellzoneFet0r: empire manufacturing and jobless claims where better then expected kaveh_48: TICS very important data Fet0r: yekaveh_48: jobless no importantkaveh_48: noteuro_pean: so we expecting it to bounce up from 2620?Paltalk: ===================================Please visit our advertisers by clicking on banners.==========================================kaveh_48: maybekaveh_48: maybe break 20kaveh_48: but very confused mrakteskaveh_48: maybe break this ice when FCBd_thorpey: kaveh you said you were going to post a new strategy earlier, was it for gold?kaveh_48: one of thing is very important here that eur is below the high of ukFet0r: why its so important, kaveh ?kaveh_48: cz big order near sellzone bullback eur to his levelkaveh_48: means markets dont want break this level 1.2660kaveh_48: atleast todaykaveh_48: yes d_thorpeyFet0r: kaveh_48: have u positon?Fet0r: i have on demo account, like i said earlier today i do bounce at european session off buy/sell zones and breakout at us sessionFet0r: looks like we aren't going to have breakout Fet0r: but who knows what gonna happen at FCB meeting charlie20066: good morningkiwichamp: gmkaveh_48: gmcharlie20066: any trades today?akhtarali786: gmeuro_pean: going downkaveh_48: not yetPardeus: kiwi you r saving text file for website right?euro_pean: at least some movementx_trader: I bought 23x_trader: for a scalppayale: looks like philly fed is going to be strongkiwichamp: yes text file is being savedcharlie20066: I see the 38.2 fib level on the hourly chart is around 1.2602Pardeus: can you timestamp it

kaveh_48: you work riksy near news x-traderPardeus: it would help for reviewkiwichamp: time stamp does no seem to work kaveh_48: riskykiwichamp: I set it -- but nothing happensx_trader: Kaveh, near news when i play i play small size (10:02 AM) Pardeus: k thanks (10:02 AM) x_trader: thats how i compensate (10:03 AM) kaveh_48: but i think u must close (10:03 AM) Ardi1899: pls don't confuse us by using another system x_trader (10:04 AM) x_trader: 200 EMA is here on 30 min chart (10:04 AM) euro_pean: Do u save it txt or .doc/rtf format @kiwi?kiwichamp: txt (10:04 AM) x_trader: ok ardi (10:04 AM) charlie20066: what time is the news coming out at?kiwichamp: rft gives problems

(10:04 AM) Ardi1899: (10:05 AM) euro_pean: wot sort of problems?kiwichamp: crashed paltalk and corrupts file kiwichamp: so I lose eveything (10:05 AM) Ardi1899: that's bad newskiwichamp: yep (10:06 AM) Pardeus: 2:00pm USA Fed Chairman Bernanke Speaks (10:06 AM) childtrader: I have this sessionkiwichamp: so now saving in text - -putting into doc and making font alittle larger for clarity (10:06 AM) Pardeus: all EST (10:06 AM) Ardi1899: okay (10:07 AM) euro_pean: ok, txt files are so difficult to read, they are poorly formatted as well (10:07 AM) euro_pean: rtf doesnt corrupt if u copy and pastekiwichamp: but you have to scroll thru the whole chat (10:08 AM) kaveh_48: tea timekiwichamp: there is no select all function (10:08 AM) euro_pean: no (10:08 AM) kaveh_48: i will back soonkiwichamp: yes -- good idea (10:08 AM) Ardi1899: there's no choice, but we can ask childtrader for this session (10:08 AM) Paltalk: ===================================GO GREEN or BLUE to stop ads and support Paltalk! Subscribe today!==========================================kiwichamp: the doc file is ok no ? (10:09 AM) childtrader: right click on chat words (10:09 AM) Barry411: I have a program that makes tex back to readble (10:09 AM) childtrader: and select frezz dispaly for copykiwichamp: doc does that kiwichamp: ok (10:09 AM) childtrader: then you can easly copy this words (10:09 AM) euro_pean: just click inside this big chat window, than key combination Ctrl + A, than Ctrl + C and than open a new Word Doc and Paste it there (10:10 AM) euro_pean: works for me perfectkiwichamp: ok

(10:10 AM) euro_pean: pity i missed some of the chatkiwichamp: ok got it kiwichamp: thankskiwichamp: I arrived late today too (10:11 AM) Ardi1899: I miss a lot, my net connection is very unstable todaykiwichamp: mmm sorry about that kiwichamp: not much happened first few hrs kiwichamp: who was here then ? (10:11 AM) akhtarali786: anybody trading (10:11 AM) Ardi1899: childtrader? (10:11 AM) euro_pean: no problem - will save u formatting text kiwichamp: no (10:11 AM) childtrader: yeskiwichamp: yes thanks euro (10:12 AM) childtrader: I'll be post this file to forum (10:12 AM) childtrader: after colse this session (10:12 AM) Ardi1899: that's great (10:12 AM) euro_pean: thx childtrader (10:13 AM) childtrader: I'm in here form 8 cet (10:13 AM) childtrader: wc kiwichamp: okkiwichamp: anything discussed in first 4 hrs ? (10:14 AM) childtrader: Not matter (10:15 AM) euro_pean: no, just Fet gave his calculation of zoneskiwichamp: I mean here (10:15 AM) childtrader: Market so slowkiwichamp: aaa ok kiwichamp: we have that posted already kiwichamp: right -- so what I have is enough (10:16 AM) charlie20066: price seems to be stalling here around the fib 23.6 level on the 1hr chart (10:23 AM) Ardi1899: I've got to go guys (10:23 AM) Ardi1899: c u tomorrow (10:23 AM) sovo1: bye ardi (10:24 AM) childtrader: have nice time ardi (10:24 AM) charlie20066: until tomorrow (10:24 AM) alexw8: cu Ardikiwichamp: bye (10:25 AM) euro_pean: very flat, smth gonna happen soon (10:28 AM) Paltalk: ===================================Please support our sponsors by clicking on banners.========================================== (10:29 AM) euro_pean: +20 pip (10:30 AM) charlie20066: price is going down maybe going to fib 38.2 on 1hr chart (10:35 AM) kaveh_48: x_trader hope u closed your positions (10:35 AM) kaveh_48: are u here now? (10:35 AM) Barry411: no juice (10:36 AM) Topcat275: think ower ? (10:37 AM) sovo1: wow, almost a week and still no juice. (10:37 AM) kaveh_48: i took few pips for cable but not importanat (10:37 AM) sovo1: tomorow does not look good. (10:38 AM) charlie20066: kaveh are you ready to load the boat? (10:38 AM) kaveh_48: i wait for pivot (10:38 AM) kaveh_48: 1.2595 (10:39 AM) kaveh_48: i stay here till UAS closed

(10:40 AM) kaveh_48: maybe we Hunt more pips today (10:40 AM) kaveh_48: in this confused markets (10:41 AM) charlie20066: juice is over 600 right now (10:41 AM) sovo1: kaveh, the lion is sleeping today, again lol (10:41 AM) charlie20066: actually I'm quite awake (10:41 AM) charlie20066: & hungry (10:41 AM) kaveh_48: this week juice was good but markets confused us form 2days ago (10:43 AM) kaveh_48: sovo1 LION sleep like bear this week in Sibry (10:43 AM) sovo1: lol (10:44 AM) kaveh_48: sovo1 where are u from? (10:44 AM) sovo1: california (10:44 AM) sovo1: born in vietnam (10:44 AM) payale: now hiding in alaska.... lol (10:44 AM) kaveh_48: how long u live in Cal? (10:45 AM) sovo1: 20 years (10:45 AM) payale: wow (10:45 AM) sovo1: un familiar with forex (10:45 AM) kaveh_48: and your first job ? (10:45 AM) sovo1: lab tech, (10:46 AM) kaveh_48: I am civil engineer (10:46 AM) euro_pean: where r u based, kaveh? (10:46 AM) payale: i think u r in the right forum,where kaveh is teaching us very well patiently (10:46 AM) sovo1: good job, right now in cal. civil engineer (10:47 AM) kaveh_48: near 10 year was my first job (10:47 AM) sovo1: right on payale. (10:48 AM) kaveh_48: only i study forex in net (10:48 AM) Paltalk: ===================================Are banners a bummer and popups a pain?Cure your banner blues NOW!Get Paltalk Plus pr Paltalk X-treme!==========================================kiwichamp: the net is a university for sure (10:48 AM) sovo1: how long have you been trading kaveh. (10:49 AM) kaveh_48: 5years (10:49 AM) kaveh_48: and 2 years i am in profitkiwichamp: excellent kiwichamp: so it took you 3 years to really learn

(10:50 AM) euro_pean: (10:50 AM) sovo1: great, with same system. (10:50 AM) kaveh_48: 3years only losskiwichamp: that seems to be the average time (10:50 AM) Topcat275: how much you start with, kaveh ?kiwichamp: but the losses taught you (10:51 AM) kaveh_48: i started with $50,000 (10:51 AM) Topcat275: 2 years ago 50 k (10:51 AM) euro_pean: good capital, hope u didnt lost it all in first 3 years? (10:51 AM) kaveh_48: yes 2 years ago (10:52 AM) alexw8: 50k us?kiwichamp: and you lost the 50k ? (10:52 AM) kaveh_48: for first time i loss $100,000

kiwichamp: ouch

(10:52 AM) euro_pean:

(10:52 AM) sovo1: (10:53 AM) kaveh_48: no i trun $50k to $.....k (10:53 AM) Rupp6: wowkiwichamp: ok good (10:54 AM) Rupp6: i think the big loss is the best teacher though (10:54 AM) kaveh_48: exactlly (10:54 AM) kaveh_48: i dont want this happen for guys (10:55 AM) kaveh_48: and Iran too (10:55 AM) sovo1: thanks kaveh. (10:55 AM) kaveh_48: many Guys in Iran loss money (10:55 AM) charlie20066: yes, thank you kaveh (10:56 AM) euro_pean: euro up? (10:56 AM) kaveh_48: cz they learn only good news buy and bad news sell (10:57 AM) euro_pean: I met a few guys from Iran on TSD, forex seems popular there (10:58 AM) kaveh_48: In Iran we dont have any strategy for forex (10:58 AM) charlie20066: most people don't (10:58 AM) charlie20066: around the world (10:58 AM) kaveh_48: i ceart here to learn at least Iran guys (10:58 AM) kaveh_48: creat (10:59 AM) euro_pean: me think - money management and strategy are most important, more than some news (10:59 AM) Rupp6: i think a lot of russian guys are doing forex too (10:59 AM) charlie20066: good point euro (10:59 AM) Rupp6: i see a lot of russian sites, and programmers of indicators from russia (10:59 AM) kaveh_48: will bounce near 20 (11:00 AM) euro_pean: yes, a few programmers from Russia, some good forums there (11:00 AM) kaveh_48: dont worriy (11:00 AM) euro_pean: going mad - euro (11:00 AM) kaveh_48: the most important form here CAT systemkiwichamp: yes it is good (11:00 AM) kaveh_48: az u see all of time have bad signalkiwichamp: on 30 min yes very often (11:01 AM) euro_pean: cat is good, but trades are rarekiwichamp: but if you ad the COG it helpskiwichamp: and Juice (11:02 AM) charlie20066: if you add a good breakfast it helpskiwichamp: hahaha (11:02 AM) euro_pean: i like this COG, tho noticed it quick to start, but legging behind when exit (11:02 AM) kaveh_48: i think only JUICE in this markets tell me markets move or notkiwichamp: yes Juice is a key kiwichamp: i am seeing that

(11:04 AM) sovo1: Everyone needs juice, even in forex..just a note.

kiwichamp: kiwichamp: yes -- I am understanding that more every day (11:04 AM) euro_pean: yes, i have got 2 arrows on cable but juice is low? (11:04 AM) kaveh_48: one of the GREAT trader from USA told me buy GOLD at 583 this is key level but see happen lastday (11:06 AM) kaveh_48: and he work for great company tookiwichamp: he is in trouble (11:06 AM) kaveh_48: lastday he loss 2.8million (11:06 AM) Rupp6: wowkiwichamp: ouch !!

(11:07 AM) alexw8: (11:07 AM) Rupp6: his own money or clients? (11:07 AM) kaveh_48: company money (11:07 AM) Rupp6: okkiwichamp: wow !! (11:07 AM) Rupp6: hehekiwichamp: he IS in trouble (11:08 AM) charlie20066: probably not a 1one man decision though (11:08 AM) kaveh_48: hit his stoploss at 550kiwichamp: mmmmm (11:08 AM) Paltalk: ===================================You should SEE what you've been missing!!!Get a Paltalk subscription NOW and you can get fast motion video in ANY group! And as an added bonus you get NO banners and NO popups!========================================== (11:09 AM) kaveh_48: he is one of my best from that move to USA 11years ago (11:09 AM) kaveh_48: friendkiwichamp: I guess he can recover that -- (11:09 AM) kaveh_48: and he works for big company (11:10 AM) charlie20066: Hopefully they had insurance (11:10 AM) kaveh_48: i told him this HORNY trend will hit your stoplosskiwichamp: mmmm (11:11 AM) kaveh_48: but he didnt accpet this (11:11 AM) kaveh_48: see eur play near 20 (11:12 AM) kaveh_48: play under high uk markets very important (11:12 AM) charlie20066: how much longer for news? (11:15 AM) Barry411: It didn (11:15 AM) Barry411: like 20 (11:16 AM) kaveh_48: if bounce at 20 u can take few pips (11:17 AM) charlie20066: no juice (11:17 AM) kaveh_48: must what happen when touch 20 (11:17 AM) kaveh_48: see (11:17 AM) Barry411: would that be hunting (11:18 AM) kaveh_48: maybe cable (11:20 AM) euro_pean: so juice shows if there is certain price movement level ? (11:21 AM) kaveh_48: juice means SD (11:21 AM) ibda_: Philadelphia Fed 13.1 (11:22 AM) euro_pean: what is 'SD' ? (11:22 AM) Barry411: what is SD

(11:22 AM) ibda_: hi eveybody (11:22 AM) kaveh_48: please wait i will explain it (11:22 AM) euro_pean: tnx (11:23 AM) Barry411: COF is stil Green (11:23 AM) kaveh_48: i think only markets wait for 2hours (11:23 AM) kaveh_48: FCB (11:23 AM) Barry411: Juice near 0 (11:23 AM) kaveh_48: must wait for reaction of markets (11:24 AM) kaveh_48: creat 5min of charts for eur now (11:24 AM) kaveh_48: and add juice to 5mins chart (11:24 AM) kaveh_48: drag and drop SD to your juice (11:25 AM) kaveh_48: see what happen (11:25 AM) charlie20066: sd? (11:26 AM) kaveh_48: standard deviation for indicator folder (11:27 AM) euro_pean: ok, done (11:27 AM) kaveh_48: standard deviaion is basic for mat (11:27 AM) kaveh_48: the foundation of this number in MAT is SD (11:28 AM) euro_pean: MAT = maths? (11:28 AM) Paltalk: ===================================Click banners to visit our sponsors.========================================== (11:28 AM) kaveh_48: yep (11:29 AM) kaveh_48: this item in MATS tell me how this markets move (11:30 AM) kaveh_48: got it guys?kiwichamp: yep (11:30 AM) payale: ok (11:30 AM) kaveh_48: juice is histogram for SD (11:31 AM) Rupp6: yep (11:32 AM) euro_pean: now i got it (11:32 AM) Paltalk: ====SECURITY BULLETIN!=======Clicking on a link to any site that offers-To give you a blue nickname for free,-To give you the ability to be invisible or,-To help you manipulate the Paltalk software,violates Paltalk’s Terms of Service AND/OR is a hacking site whose intention is to steal your nickname, password and/or credit card information.Remember, if you want Paltalk software or you want to LOG-IN to Paltalk, be safe and go to www.paltalk.com (11:33 AM) kaveh_48: now see 1mins charts on eur (11:33 AM) kaveh_48: when candel move 5mins ago SD gone up (11:33 AM) kaveh_48: means green (11:36 AM) charlie20066: Do you think it will bounce again at 1.2620? (11:37 AM) kaveh_48: GUYS SEE THIS LINK www.watchmytrade.com see this trader how manytime loss this week (11:37 AM) kaveh_48: maybekiwichamp: does not show june (11:39 AM) kaveh_48: 9timeskiwichamp: lost a lot in april kiwichamp: mmmm (11:39 AM) kaveh_48: 9time he loss this weekkiwichamp: wow kiwichamp: does not show here kiwichamp: jsut til april he lose then too kiwichamp: lots of pips lost in april

(11:40 AM) kaveh_48: i see 13jun (11:40 AM) kaveh_48: herekiwichamp: I cant see it kiwichamp: it is not there (11:41 AM) Rupp6: automated system (11:41 AM) kaveh_48: u cant see his charts?kiwichamp: charts yes kiwichamp: but the spreadsheet showing profit loss only goes to april (11:41 AM) Rupp6: yes look at the arrows on the chart (11:41 AM) Rupp6: blue is long orange is shortkiwichamp: aa ok (11:41 AM) kaveh_48: yes (11:42 AM) Rupp6: he uses OANDA platform (11:42 AM) kaveh_48: yeskiwichamp: those are just fractals no ?kiwichamp: you cant trade on those (11:42 AM) Rupp6: no those are orders (11:42 AM) Rupp6: orders he tookkiwichamp: oh really kiwichamp: ouch (11:42 AM) Rupp6: hehe (11:42 AM) kaveh_48: this arrow is postions (11:42 AM) charlie20066: why would he want to advertise that?kiwichamp: yeahkiwichamp: ok I see that now kiwichamp: phewl -- kiwichamp: glad I dont follow him (11:44 AM) kaveh_48: no problem for this positions but i want to tell you this week was bad week for all of traderkiwichamp: I am sure (11:45 AM) kaveh_48: and all of trader loss this week (11:45 AM) charlie20066: yes it was (11:45 AM) kaveh_48: eur afraid to break 1.2700 and 1.2500 (11:46 AM) kaveh_48: i dont know exactly why? (11:46 AM) charlie20066: probably politics (11:48 AM) Paltalk: ===================================Please support our sponsors by clicking on banners.========================================== (11:51 AM) kaveh_48: i will back soonkiwichamp: ok (12:00 PM) euro_pean: kiwi - wot time is it in NZ now?kiwichamp: 1 am kiwichamp: I am not there -- but it is 1am

(12:02 PM) euro_pean: oh, i see - thought it mite be v.late or early

kiwichamp: well a bit late it is 1am kiwichamp: there but I am in Texas -- midday (12:02 PM) euro_pean: rite (12:02 PM) charlie20066: lolkiwichamp: I am sorry -- kiwichamp: it is 5am kiwichamp: in NZ kiwichamp: looked at wrong clock

(12:03 PM) euro_pean: i thought u cant sleep for some reason, lol

kiwichamp: (12:03 PM) euro_pean: where is Kaveh based?kiwichamp: iran (12:06 PM) euro_pean: cool, like his levels - pretty accurate (12:06 PM) sovo1: Isn't he in US now.?kiwichamp: dont think so (12:08 PM) Paltalk: ===================================To visit our sponsors, click on banners!========================================== (12:10 PM) euro_pean: anybody follows CAT50? anything about exit strategy on there, new good indicators?kiwichamp: no exit strategy with them (12:11 PM) euro_pean: NINA's levels only?kiwichamp: basically kiwichamp: yes kiwichamp: Nina does give Sup/Res levels kiwichamp: they do use Fib pivotskiwichamp: it has its merits -- (12:12 PM) euro_pean: ok, coolkiwichamp: one of my main systems now is a combination of several systems (12:13 PM) euro_pean: do u remembe which indicator for pivots?kiwichamp: Fib 2 or something like that -- it is on their site (12:14 PM) euro_pean: yes, sounds good, i also back up Reversal system with ASCTrend and some filtered indicatorskiwichamp: good (12:15 PM) euro_pean: gives fewer but reliable signalskiwichamp: good kiwichamp: same here (12:15 PM) euro_pean: thing about CAT50 - it enteres trades sometimes too latekiwichamp: yep kiwichamp: I prefer 5 min and 15 min charts (12:16 PM) euro_pean: 5 min work?kiwichamp: yes with MTF filters set to 15 -- like the COGkiwichamp: Kaveh uses that on 1 min -- but it is filtered to 15 minkiwichamp: but you can see entries quicker (12:17 PM) euro_pean: cool, i'll try thatkiwichamp: ok (12:17 PM) euro_pean: yes, that's what neededkiwichamp: yep (12:18 PM) euro_pean: i'll post one of my indicators, based on Stoch and IND InverseEMA sometimekiwichamp: okkiwichamp: mine also are StepStoch, COG, Juice (12:19 PM) euro_pean: a bit in a mess today - added another monitor to my pc, running out of desktop space with all these charts aroundkiwichamp: mm (12:20 PM) euro_pean: euro up?kiwichamp: yes a little kiwichamp: but no juice (12:22 PM) euro_pean: no juice (12:23 PM) euro_pean: think it showes if there's any strength behind price change (12:23 PM) euro_pean: cant spell (12:23 PM) euro_pean: shows

kiwichamp: it is as Kaveh says -- a confused market today (12:25 PM) euro_pean: too quiet for thursdaykiwichamp: for real

(12:26 PM) euro_pean: it will make up for it tomorrow kiwichamp: hope so (12:27 PM) euro_pean: kiwi, can iask about 'safe' trading zone? (12:28 PM) sovo1: last week, 100+ pips on thrusday (12:28 PM) Paltalk: ===================================Please visit our advertisers by clicking on banners.==========================================kiwichamp: great (12:28 PM) sovo1: not me,, kaveh.kiwichamp: sure -- did you check the site euro ?kiwichamp: there is a good explanation of the safe trading zone there kiwichamp: thanks to Fet0rkiwichamp: ok (12:29 PM) sovo1: kiwi, you trade cat in tf 5, and tf 15? (12:30 PM) euro_pean: thing is i struggled to find it as my English isn't that goodkiwichamp: but not cat as it is on their site kiwichamp: so not really cat no kiwichamp: ok ask euro (12:31 PM) euro_pean: so 'safe' zones happen immediately after market break/bounce from 'sell/buy' zones?kiwichamp: no kiwichamp: the explanation on the site shows how to calculate the zone -- kiwichamp: when you have that calculated -- you watch the price action (price movement) (12:33 PM) euro_pean: ok, so say i know 'sell/buy' zoneskiwichamp: now the price goes close to the zone -- breaks into the zone then reverses -- kiwichamp: there you know you can buy or sell depending on whether it is a buy or sell zone (12:34 PM) euro_pean: rite ,s oafter that?kiwichamp: usually look to take 10-20 pips kiwichamp: then wait for it to do it again (12:35 PM) charlie20066: In this constantly changing market it appears that it is important to have multiple strategies (12:36 PM) charlie20066: for multiple scenarios (12:36 PM) euro_pean: yes, it can happen several times (12:37 PM) charlie20066: 1) A breakout strategy 2) Mid strategy for 10 pips 3) scalping strategy for 3-5 pips (12:37 PM) euro_pean: thx, kiwikiwichamp: welcome kiwichamp: there you go -- thanks charlie kiwichamp: thing is this strategy allows you to "collect" pips safely kiwichamp: and they all add up (12:39 PM) charlie20066: playing it safe = trade with juice , but in Forex no such thing as truly safe that is realitykiwichamp: right -- but losses are minimal in this strategy kiwichamp: Kaven only lost once this week and that was just 20 pips (12:40 PM) charlie20066: that is very goodkiwichamp: other strategies have lost who knows how much this week (12:41 PM) sovo1: kaveh, lost 20 pips bc he feels the market and not panic.kiwichamp: yep kiwichamp: just took it -- and went on

kiwichamp: that same day he closed in profit ! (12:41 PM) charlie20066: nicekiwichamp: yes (12:41 PM) charlie20066: adjusting & making changes is importantkiwichamp: yes kiwichamp: it is (12:41 PM) euro_pean: yes, i think he feels market wellkiwichamp: the crazy thing I see on the forums is "medio mundo" trying to create EAs (automatic experts) that will trade for them kiwichamp: no robot is ever ever going to be able to think like a human and trade with minimal loss (12:43 PM) euro_pean: but robots dont have emotions, thats an advantage (12:43 PM) euro_pean: in tradingkiwichamp: its a crazy waste of time -- and in my eyes (in my opinion) they are programers and not traderskiwichamp: no it is not an advantage -- kiwichamp: cause they dont think either and dont understand the market (12:44 PM) euro_pean: people get emotionally envolved with their moneykiwichamp: that is what Kaveh is teaching us to do kiwichamp: yes -- but if they are going to learn to be a trader they have to learn to overcome that the same way as an olympic champion has to train his body kiwichamp: a robot wont help you therekiwichamp: anyone who is not willing to train their emotions will never succeed in trading and would be better delivering pizzas for a living (12:46 PM) euro_pean: computer logic can be very saffisticated, pity MQL4 isn't that well fit to do it, but one can build in AI, pattern recognition etc which will make good EAs (12:46 PM) charlie20066: everyone is different kiwikiwichamp: sure -- that is why statistics show us not everyone succeeds in trading kiwichamp: cause not everyone is suited to do it (12:47 PM) euro_pean: i agree that they are more programmers than traders tho (12:47 PM) charlie20066: kiwi even the pros have been losing in this crazy marketkiwichamp: I like to program too kiwichamp: yes I know -- cause in my experience in life -- even if you are a "pro' in something you need to stay humble and flexible to learn every day kiwichamp: or you get "headstrong" and insist that what worked yesterday will work today kiwichamp: life is not like that (12:48 PM) Paltalk: ===================================GO GREEN or BLUE to stop ads and support Paltalk! Subscribe today!==========================================kiwichamp: look at what Kaveh was telling us about his friend kiwichamp: probably his friend decided he had more experience than Kaven -- was not humble enough to listen and lost 2.8 million of the companies moneykiwichamp: that tells me -- I can NEVER get too good to listen to someone who may have less experience than I think I have kiwichamp: and the moment I do -- I am setting myself up to lose - - (12:50 PM) charlie20066: England just scored their 2nd Gol against Tobagokiwichamp: Pride comes before a fall -- (12:51 PM) euro_pean: not with mekiwichamp: good -- kiwichamp: stay teachable and you will always win or find the winning way (12:52 PM) charlie20066: true thatkiwichamp: I heard Kaveh say the other day "I am learning much here"

kiwichamp: that is why he is sucessful -- he is not just a great teacher -- but a great student too (12:52 PM) euro_pean: i agree, we need to learn all the time to stay afloat - i used to work in IT forex is a new challengekiwichamp: yes (12:53 PM) euro_pean: oh, yes, i admire him for wot he does for free!kiwichamp: yep (12:54 PM) euro_pean: and prepared to learn, pity i am a bit slow as i dont always understand him, my english isn't that brilliant (12:54 PM) charlie20066: where you from euro? (12:54 PM) euro_pean: was born in Russia (12:55 PM) charlie20066: Maybe I should have asked, where are you from or at now? (12:55 PM) euro_pean: but i have got will power and believe in myself although was scammed by one forex dealer when started trading (12:56 PM) euro_pean: i live in UK nowkiwichamp: sorry you were scammed (12:56 PM) charlie20066: I've met some very pretty Russian girls here in the stateskiwichamp: there is a lot of that around I am afraid (12:57 PM) euro_pean: That was FXtrader.net and FXFD.net - they owe me over $30K (12:57 PM) charlie20066: wowkiwichamp: mmmmm (12:58 PM) euro_pean: FXTrader.net lost it's license from fin regulatorkiwichamp: mmmkiwichamp: I bet (12:59 PM) euro_pean: dont trade with them & FXCH (www.forex-swiss.com) fraud brokers and not regulated by anybodykiwichamp: mm thats where KAveh has his account kiwichamp: fxch (1:01 PM) euro_pean: bad news for him (funny enough controlled by Russian mafia)kiwichamp: mmmm kiwichamp: do you know anything about North Finance ? (1:02 PM) Ramin_Aust: news (1:02 PM) euro_pean: they seem to be better, although russian based i believe (1:02 PM) euro_pean: so much scam in financial markets in Russiakiwichamp: cypruskiwichamp: yes thereare a lot of scams (1:03 PM) euro_pean: off-shore registration of a Russian co - called 'Severnaya Kazna' (1:04 PM) euro_pean: translated - North Financekiwichamp: mmmmm (1:04 PM) Ramin_Aust: guys isnt it the news now???? (1:04 PM) payale: Ben Bernake is speakingkiwichamp: yes

(1:05 PM) euro_pean: news dont help today (1:05 PM) Ramin_Aust: no move at allkiwichamp: well I plan on trying NF with just $100 kiwichamp: so not much to lose (1:07 PM) euro_pean: a few people from TSD trade with them, including NINA, seems ok (1:07 PM) euro_pean: but dont invest much

kiwichamp: no -- just $100 and take profits every week once I build it up kiwichamp: is what I plan on doing (1:08 PM) payale: ben says high oil price can slow growth and spur inflation (1:08 PM) euro_pean: cool (1:08 PM) Paltalk: ===================================Please support our sponsors by clicking on banners.========================================== (1:08 PM) euro_pean: we know that without ben, lol (1:09 PM) payale: ya (1:15 PM) euro_pean: http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=64509&highlight=FXFD that is a link about FXCH on EliteTrader.com - Kaveh mite be interested (1:20 PM) euro_pean: still no movement on the marketkiwichamp: no (1:28 PM) kaveh_48: hi guyskiwichamp: hi Kaveh (1:28 PM) Topcat275: hi (1:28 PM) childtrader: Hi kavehkiwichamp: not much reaction to Benanke speech yet (1:28 PM) Paltalk: ===================================Are banners a bummer and popups a pain?Cure your banner blues NOW!Get Paltalk Plus pr Paltalk X-treme!========================================== (1:29 PM) kaveh_48: az u see very slow marketskiwichamp: yes !! kiwichamp: what is making it sooo slow ? (1:29 PM) kaveh_48: maybe this markets wait for Iran Packagekiwichamp: mm when will that happen ? (1:30 PM) ekim28: rate hike already priced into the marketkiwichamp: yes (1:31 PM) kaveh_48: friday Iran have big meeting in CHINAkiwichamp: aaa ok kiwichamp: maybe then kiwichamp: what time ? (1:31 PM) kaveh_48: no time for this herekiwichamp: ok (1:32 PM) kaveh_48: but i know big meeting fridaykiwichamp: just watch the charts - price action kiwichamp: ok (1:32 PM) kaveh_48: yes (1:32 PM) kaveh_48: if i have news i wil give youkiwichamp: you are a good teacher kiwichamp: cause thats what you are teaching us kiwichamp: ok thanks (1:33 PM) kaveh_48: WC kiwikiwichamp: (1:33 PM) kaveh_48: but i am here atleast know what happen for this markets (1:33 PM) kaveh_48: very slow (1:33 PM) euro_pean: I heard that Iran doesn't want to sell its oil for $ USD, is it true? (1:34 PM) kaveh_48: yes

kiwichamp: but US has Mexico so close (1:34 PM) kaveh_48: is not important for $kiwichamp: vg (1:34 PM) euro_pean: That would undermine USD even more (1:35 PM) kaveh_48: but i think this markets wait for big news (1:35 PM) kaveh_48: to find directionkiwichamp: looks like it (1:35 PM) kaveh_48: and trend (1:36 PM) payale: 2morrow michigan index. very imp (1:36 PM) payale: might move the mkt (1:36 PM) kaveh_48: az i told you befor if big bounce happen near 1.2550 and break 1.2710 this trend will run for 1.3000 (1:36 PM) payale: yeskiwichamp: yes will have that memorized kiwichamp: and maybe tomorrow run may start ? (1:37 PM) kaveh_48: i think manything will happen for this markets (1:37 PM) kaveh_48: gold fall oil fall and.......fallkiwichamp: ok (1:38 PM) payale: that's why buffet steppedkiwichamp: mmm interesting (1:38 PM) kaveh_48: but eur in ice landkiwichamp: ok (1:38 PM) kaveh_48: manytimes happen when big fall or big risekiwichamp: ok (1:39 PM) kaveh_48: but i think this slow move is not for this big fallkiwichamp: ok (1:40 PM) kaveh_48: speek finished? (1:41 PM) naturalnetbg: no (1:41 PM) Barry411: Questions and ansers (1:42 PM) payale: answering questions from (1:42 PM) payale: traders (1:42 PM) kaveh_48: it is very important to know this markets today at which level will close (1:42 PM) kaveh_48: and for ASIA too (1:43 PM) naturalnetbg: last question (1:44 PM) kaveh_48: if cloesd under 1.2600 means in ASIA price will goes near 30 and then fall near 90 (1:45 PM) kaveh_48: cz price manytimes play near 30 ant uk and us (1:45 PM) payale: Q& A with Ben over (1:45 PM) kaveh_48: maybe 2moro my sellzone near 30 (1:46 PM) kaveh_48: and buyzone near 1.2570 (1:46 PM) kaveh_48: but very important today which level close this marketskiwichamp: ok (1:47 PM) kaveh_48: by the way DJI break all of res today (1:48 PM) kaveh_48: very sharp movekiwichamp: pl kiwichamp: ok (1:48 PM) naturalnetbg: 147.52 up (1:48 PM) kaveh_48: yes

(1:48 PM) Paltalk: ===================================You should SEE what you've been missing!!!Get a Paltalk subscription NOW and you can get fast motion video in ANY group! And as an added bonus you get NO banners and NO popups!========================================== (1:48 PM) payale: with michigan index, the last of the inflation check indx befor june 28 meeting (1:49 PM) kaveh_48: and this means good news for us fridaykiwichamp: good (1:49 PM) naturalnetbg: nikkei 161 (1:49 PM) payale: yes (1:49 PM) payale: hope the mkt does not behave confused like the last 2 days (1:50 PM) kaveh_48: it is very important in this confused markets save your money (1:50 PM) payale: ok (1:50 PM) kaveh_48: az u see i loss only 20pips this week (1:51 PM) payale: i c (1:52 PM) kaveh_48: but i hunt pips when markets was slow (1:52 PM) kaveh_48: i think 45mins to us closed (1:52 PM) kaveh_48: close (1:53 PM) payale: yes (1:53 PM) euro_pean: usually slow before close? (1:53 PM) payale: i dont think any major move will happen now (1:53 PM) kaveh_48: euro-pean what is this link? (1:53 PM) euro_pean: true, too late for a big one (1:53 PM) payale: mkt waiting for the last inflation indicator 2morrow (1:54 PM) euro_pean: http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60285&perpage=6&highlight=fxfd&pagenumber=5 try this one (1:54 PM) kaveh_48: mafia? (1:54 PM) kaveh_48: k (1:54 PM) euro_pean: are we talking about FXCH? (1:55 PM) kaveh_48: this is really ture? (1:56 PM) euro_pean: one can copy and paste this link into a broweser - doesn't work from Paltalk for me (1:57 PM) euro_pean: Yes, they are controlled by russian mafia (1:57 PM) kaveh_48: but office is in swiss (1:58 PM) payale: wow (1:58 PM) kaveh_48: what u means eur_pean? (1:59 PM) euro_pean: it's a 'Virtual office' - they are not regulated by any fin body - i inquired from Swiss Fin Board (1:59 PM) kaveh_48: really? (2:00 PM) euro_pean: yes, scam - they even have an office in USA but NFA haven't even heard about them (2:01 PM) kaveh_48: means no office in USA? (2:01 PM) euro_pean: no, they just put it on their web site to sound legitimate (2:02 PM) kaveh_48: many thx (2:02 PM) euro_pean: i would never trade with unregulated broker (2:02 PM) euro_pean: no problem (2:02 PM) kaveh_48: what is your offer for broker (2:03 PM) payale: fxdd (2:03 PM) kaveh_48: i have IFX too (2:03 PM) euro_pean: Oanda, IB, or InterbankGroup (2:03 PM) payale: they are on their way to get registered with NFA

(2:03 PM) payale: Oanda is good but 50:1 leverage (2:04 PM) kaveh_48: but i hadnt any problem with this 2 broker (2:05 PM) euro_pean: cool, NFA and CFTC are pretty strict and protect traders interests (2:05 PM) payale: refco was a big broker too. but their operations in US closed and lot of traders like us have their money locked and no access to it (2:06 PM) kaveh_48: what about Oanda? (2:06 PM) euro_pean: InterBankGroup - 2 pip spread on 6 majors (including Cable) + 400:1 leveragekiwichamp: true no broker is totally secure (2:06 PM) payale: Oanda is very good (2:06 PM) payale: 1 1/2 pip spread for eurkiwichamp: my thoughts are spread out your accounts over 2-3 brokers and dont leave with broker any extra money kiwichamp: check out tsd forum for comments on Interbank (2:07 PM) kaveh_48: how many guys here have live with oanda? (2:07 PM) euro_pean: yes, oanda - no minimum deposit (2:07 PM) euro_pean: i have (2:07 PM) kaveh_48: how long you work with oanda? (2:08 PM) euro_pean: they even pay good interest on deposit daily (2:08 PM) euro_pean: a year (2:08 PM) kaveh_48: wide spread on big news? (2:08 PM) payale: they calculate by the seconds (2:08 PM) Paltalk: ===================================Click banners to visit our sponsors.========================================== (2:09 PM) euro_pean: not that much - they allow scalping (2:09 PM) payale: so that way if u enter a trade just before rollover u r not penalized (2:09 PM) euro_pean: i never was (2:10 PM) kaveh_48: ok (2:10 PM) payale: not during news. only friday after europe closes, wwhen thinvolatility they have a 10 pip spread (2:10 PM) euro_pean: spred can go 3-4 pip but for a couple of minutes during whipsaws (2:10 PM) payale: and also on Sunday (2:11 PM) euro_pean: they have 10 pip spread all week end (2:11 PM) euro_pean: that is Sat/Sun (2:11 PM) kaveh_48: interbank have big problem with server isnt? (2:11 PM) payale: anyway, no onetrades on sat or beginning of sunday (2:12 PM) kaveh_48: here we have live account with interbank? (2:14 PM) euro_pean: MIG is ok but Swiss fin regulation is next to nothing (2:15 PM) kaveh_48: eur_pean Oanda open live account for Iranian guys? (2:16 PM) euro_pean: can't see why not, they have good 'live chat' - just ask them (2:17 PM) kaveh_48: please give me a link (2:17 PM) euro_pean: I know that some brokers do not accept US and UK residents (2:18 PM) euro_pean: like GCI - because they are not regulated (2:18 PM) kaveh_48: please give me alink for oanda (2:18 PM) euro_pean: one minute (2:19 PM) payale: http://fxtrade.oanda.com/fxgame/ (2:19 PM) kaveh_48: thx

(2:19 PM) payale: np (2:19 PM) euro_pean: http://fxtrade.oanda.com/feedback/ - in the right top corner (2:21 PM) kaveh_48: where is chat box? (2:22 PM) kaveh_48: ok i find it (2:22 PM) euro_pean: right top corner - there is a pic of keyboard (2:23 PM) Rupp6: im using OANDA too (2:23 PM) euro_pean: what are ur views? (2:23 PM) Rupp6: I like them, alot (2:23 PM) Rupp6: the charting is very basic, but I just use them for order execution (2:24 PM) Rupp6: use MT4 for charting (2:24 PM) euro_pean: cool, they have good customer support, knowlegable (2:24 PM) euro_pean: yes, charts are better here (2:25 PM) Rupp6: only bad thing, no trailing stop, if thats something you use (2:25 PM) euro_pean: think they got into 10 fastest growing US companies (2:25 PM) childtrader: I can't find iran in contry list located in registartion form (2:25 PM) childtrader: https://fx1.oanda.com/cgi-bin/v1.0/register/register.pl (2:26 PM) euro_pean: u r rite, only they got stop loss (2:26 PM) Rupp6: you also cannot hedge on the same pair (2:27 PM) kaveh_48: not open (2:27 PM) euro_pean: chat is closed? (2:28 PM) kaveh_48: not yet (2:28 PM) kaveh_48: OANDA is a US company and as such is required to adhere to all US laws. This includes respecting all economic sanctions put in place by the US Department of the Treasury. For example, there are currently US sanctions in place against Iran, which prevent OANDA from doing business with Iranian residents. (2:28 PM) Paltalk: ===================================Please support our sponsors by clicking on banners.========================================== (2:28 PM) Rupp6: ahhh (2:29 PM) childtrader: what you think about http://migfx.ch ? (2:30 PM) euro_pean: oh, politics again (2:30 PM) kaveh_48: means? (2:31 PM) euro_pean: i dont know much about sanctionskiwichamp: mmm means you cant deal with Oanda from Iran (2:32 PM) childtrader: I asked form them about regulatory oversight (2:33 PM) childtrader: and they answer to me We are regulated by Swiss Federal Ministry of Finance and we are members of ARIF (www.arif.ch). kiwichamp: mmm then if it is Swiss then why cant someone from Iran deal with them ? (2:33 PM) euro_pean: U r talking about MIG? (2:33 PM) Rupp6: sounds like it would be the same for all US brokers (2:33 PM) Rupp6: hes talking about MIGkiwichamp: aaa kiwichamp: that is not Oanda (2:34 PM) childtrader: we can do deal via swissian brokerskiwichamp: there are a few brokers in Switzerland (2:35 PM) kaveh_48: az u see very slow markets (2:35 PM) kaveh_48: save your money (2:35 PM) kaveh_48: Cu 2moro

(2:35 PM) euro_pean: Swiss financial institutions traditionally pretty secretive and not strictly regulated but they are honest and at least deal with traders problems (2:35 PM) Barry411: I have my deno with Alparikiwichamp: ok (2:36 PM) euro_pean: i m off as well, buykiwichamp: thanks Kaveh