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PERI-OPERATIVE MANAGEMENT OF FLUID, ELECTROLYTES AND KIDNEY FUNCTION Surgical Student Talk Brad Bidwell

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Page 1: PERI-OPERATIVE MANAGEMENT OF FLUID, ELECTROLYTES AND KIDNEY FUNCTION Surgical Student Talk Brad Bidwell

PERI-OPERATIVE MANAGEMENT OF FLUID, ELECTROLYTES AND KIDNEY FUNCTION

Surgical Student Talk

Brad Bidwell

Page 2: PERI-OPERATIVE MANAGEMENT OF FLUID, ELECTROLYTES AND KIDNEY FUNCTION Surgical Student Talk Brad Bidwell

If you take away one point from today it should be this:

There is no magic formula for fluid management, it depends on the patient and the situation, if in doubt then asks

someone more senior

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Where is it all going?

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Assessing Fluid Balance

Urine output Peripheral circulation JVP Postural blood pressure Lung sounds Oedema Thirst Heart rate, blood pressure, mucous membranes, tissue turgor, weight

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Assessing Kidney function

Urine output UECs

Especially creatinine and urea

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Categories of Fluids

Maintenance fluids Daily requirements Ongoing losses

“Surgical” losses: bleeding, serous ooze, drain tube losses – these tend to be sodium rich

Gastrointestinal losses: vomiting, diarrhoea, nasogastric losses – these tend to be potassium rich

Resuscitation fluids (replacement of losses)

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What is needed each day?

Water 4:2:1 rule: (4ml/kg/hr for the first 10kg body weight

PLUS 2ml/kg/hr for 11-20kg of body weight PLUS 1ml/kg/hr for every kg of body weight after that)

For a 70kg pt: (40 + 20 + 50 = 110mL/hr = 2640 mL/day)

Monitor by maintaining urine output in the range of 0.5 - 1.0mL/kg/hr (i.e. 35 – 70 mL/hr)

Sodium 1 – 2 mmol/kg/day (i.e. 70 – 140 mmol/day)

Potassium 0.5 – 1 mmol/kg/day (i.e. 35 – 70 mmol/day)

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Types of Fluids

Crystalloid Electrolytes dissolved in water E.g. normal saline, CSL/Hartmann’s, 5%

dextrose, 4% dextrose + 1/5th normal saline (“4 and 1/5th)

Colloid Large molecules dissolved in water E.g. gelofusine, albumin

Blood products E.g. PRBCs, FFP, platelets

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Crystalloids

You can add other electrolytes to these bags!

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Rate of fluids

Fluids come in 1 L bags You write it up as how fast you want to give that bag Write up 24 hours worth of fluids, and make sure they’re not

finishing overnight

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The Real World

Check the history: CCF? Renal failure? Haemorrhage? What restriction are they on? How much fluid have they had already?

Fluid assess the patient: Does the patient look well? Are they thirsty? Check the obs, especially BP and urine output. Listen to the lungs, check for sacral oedema.

Check the tests: Are their electrolytes in normal range and is their kidney

function good CXR?

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The Autopilot Method

What people usually do: N.saline 8/24 N.saline 8/24 N.saline 8/24

The electrolyte load from this is: 3L of water per day 450 mmol Na+ per day 0 mmol K+ per day

The 70kg patient needs: 2.6L of water per day 70 - 140mmol Na+ per day 35 - 70mmol Na+ per day

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The Autopilot Method

Try this: 4% + 1/5th, with 30mmol K+ added 8/24 4% + 1/5th, with 30mmol K+ added 8/24 4% + 1/5th 8/24

This gives: 3L water per day 90mmol Na+ per day 60mmol K+ per day

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Case study 1

HOPC: 28 F presents to ED with 3/7 of poorly localised central abdominal pain, increasing in intensity and shifting to the RIF over the last 12/24. Nil fevers, nil changes to bowels/urine, nausea but no vomiting. Virgin abdomen. No significant PMHx.

O/E: Obs stable, afebrile abdomen soft with focal tenderness in RIF and voluntary guarding. Pain worse when the right hip is flexed.

Ix: FBE – mildly elevated WCC, UECs – NAD, LFTs/lipase NAD, CRP 50, B-HCG negative

Dx: clinically acute appendicitis Mx: Fasting, for theatre – lap. Appendicectomy The registrar tells you to write up some fluids.

What do you give?

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Case study 2

Hx: 78 M 3/7 cramping abdominal pain with nausea and vomiting. Hasn’t opened bowels in 2/7. No fevers, no urinary changes. PMHx – some operation on abdomen 40 years ago, mild “heart troubles”, AF – on warfarin, high cholesterol.

O/E: Obs: HR 105, BP 110/70, abdomen soft, generalised tenderness, midline laparotomy scar visible superior to umbilicus

Ix: FBE – NAD, UECs – Na 138 K 3.5 Dx: likely SBO Mx: CT A/P, trial conservative management – nasogastric and

IV fluids The registrar tells you to write up some fluids. What do you

give?

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Case study 3

Hx: 52 M presents to ED with a poor thrill in his AV fistula. PMHx – ESRF due to poorly controlled T2DM, currently on haemodialysis 3x weekly, 1L fluid restriction per day, 2 prior AMI’s – stents, on warfarin, PVD – right BKA, HTN …

O/E: Obs – stable (BP 165/130), afebrile. No thrill over AVF site, no bruit heard.

Ix: FBE – NAD, UECs – Cr 450, Ur 20.3, K+ 6.2 Dx: blocked fistula Mx: unblock fistula The registrar tells you to write up some fluids. What

do you give?

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Calcium, Magnesium, Phosphate Usually we don’t worry about these too

much, especially in patients fasting for a short amount of time

Treat to target – usually we don’t prescribe regular CMP supplements, we replace in response to the test

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Supplementation

Electrolyte

Medication

Dose Route

Frequency Speed

K+ 3.0-3.5

Chlorvescent

2-4 tabs oral STAT rapid

Slow K 1-2 tabs oral Daily/bd slow

KCl 30mmol IV In 1L N.saline over x/24

rapid

K+ < 3.0 KCl 10mmol IV In 100mL N.saline over 1/24

rapid

Mg < 0.75

Magmin 2 tabs oral STAT slow

Mg < 0.65

MgSO4 10mmol IV In 100mL N.saline over 1/24

rapid

PO4 < 0.8 Phos. Sandoz

2-3 tabs oral STAT slow

PO4 < 0.6 PO4 13.4mmol

IV In 100mL N.saline over 4/24

rapid

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Resuscitation

Ascertain where the losses are from: Blood? Dehydration? Vomiting or diarrhoea?

Replace like with like (i.e. if they’ve lost blood, give them blood).

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Haemorrhagic Shock

Class Blood loss HR BP Urine Out. RR

I <15 % (750 mL) < 100 Normal > 30mL/hr 14 - 20

II 15-30 % (750 mL -1500 mL)

> 100

Decreased

15 - 30 mL/hr

21 - 30

III 30-40 % (1500 mL – 200mL)

> 120

Decreased

5-15 mL/hr 31-40

IV >40 %(> 2000 mL) > 140

Decreased

None > 40

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Replacing Massive Blood Loss Control the bleeding 1L of normal saline STAT, followed by a

second bag if necessary. If patient is still unstable, blood products

are necessary at this point Group and screen, crossmatch RMH has a “massive exsanguination pack”

– O negative blood products ready to go in a cooler.

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Traps

Beware third spacing conditions – ascites, pleural effusion, pancreatitis, burns

Pay close attention to old, frail patients Monitor patients closely when giving

large amounts of N.saline Ignoring CMP’s in patients who are

fasting for a longer period – treat to target