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Parallel Session 4
Keys for advancing patient
empowerment in future
Simon Barnes, Boehringer Ingelheim
and
Ketki Gupte, Verilogue Inc
EphMRA 2013 Pharmaceutical Market Research Conference
Relatively Speaking - Keys for
Advancing Patient
Empowerment in the Future
Background: Boehringer Ingelheim
Pradaxa
•Launched in the UK Q3 2011
•Direct competitor to warfarin
•First of Novel Anticoagulants to be
launched – high media interest
•Strong Payor reaction to Pradaxa
•Patient requests denied by physician
Three primary tenets of Patient
Empowerment
Knowledge
Understanding
Action
Real World Physician-Patient Dialogue
Analysis
•Linguistic and traditional market
research methods used for analysis
• Results based on the physician-
patient dynamic
• Identifying best practices and
obstacles to patient empowerment
•Analysis draws on Atrial Fibrillation
dialogues from UK, France, Japan,
US and Canada
Current Situation
IN: …what role do your patients have in the
treatment decision making process…?
RE: The vast, the vast majority of
patients will concur with our decision
that they should be anticoagulated with
Warfarin. (MD TDI 83240 - CARD)
A clear acknowledgement of the patients’ limited role and lack of
empowerment
PT Audio
MD Audio
Rare medication-requests by patients
CG: There's no alternative with
warfarin?
DR: There are alternatives… if I see he
don't tolerate the warfarin, if your INR is
going up and down… and you're not
reaching the therapeutic target, then…
that could be a consideration only if you
don't tolerate warfarin (80483 – CARD)
Physician response: a denial to respond to the question
Qualitative research shows even irritation, at times, on the
physicians’ part when confronted with such requests
Audio
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The Exam Room: Who Does The
Talking?
Average Length
of Interaction
36% Patient
1% Caregiver
62% Physician
75
Interactions Hours Total
Duration
The Issue: In-office Physician-Patient Dynamic
9.23
mins.
11.16
•Physicians are authority in this
speech situation
•Operate by the goals and
purpose of objectivity,
information-exchange and
problem-solving
•High control over topics
•Communication dynamic
skewed
Sample bullet Bullet 2
Bullet 3
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A visual representation of the skewed
power dynamic and topic control
DR: you come to our warfarin clinic
here?
PT: That's right.
DR: is that suiting you okay? PT: It is. DR: That is better than going up to the
hospital?
PT: Much better
DR: And you find the levels have been
quite stable with that, haven’t you?
PT: That’s right, yeah
What do the Patients Remember?
When asked, patients do not remember all the
details of the stroke risk discussion from
diagnosis, what is recalled is the link between
the risk of stroke and the need for treatment (TDI
PTs have had AF from 4 mos. - 20 yrs.)
Physicians confirmed that they review the risk of
stroke heavily at diagnosis but little afterwards
In describing the risk, physicians state that
they will not cite specific statistics, realizing
that this is highly individualized (per
CHADS2 scoring)
Physicians are receptive when patients
express effects on quality of life
DR: Do you find the Warfarin is
quite restricted for you or do you
feel quite confident with it?
PT: Oh! I find it restrictive. Yes.
It worries me a lot. Yes I do. If I
have to take some antibiotics and
then after three days it will shoot
up and then I'll have to keep
coming in to have it readjusted.
So obviously I just try my
hardest not to have more
antibiotics. (80146 - GP)
DR: But it nearly interacts with
everything.
PT: Well yeah. I mean every time
you buy at a [INAUDIBLE] or a
normal ailment you know, it always
says not if you're on warfarin.
And I think, I mean I can't take
the anti-inflammatory tablets.
And that was all my aches and
pains, that annoys me. I can't
take ibuprofen because of the
same reason.
(79378 - GP)
Audio
What does the physician see?
During these assessments, physicians use closed-
ended questions which often limit patients’ ability to
openly discuss their treatment experiences
On the whole, PT do not want to ‘disappoint’ their MD
, as a result, potential issues are often minimized or
forgotten
The limited input from patients about their actual
experience with warfarin leads to a disconnect with
physicians who then see no reason to switch the
patient to other available treatments
Conclusion: Better communication key
to Patient Empowerment
•Action: Demonstrate Quality of Life
as an impetus for patients to act
•Knowledge: Arm patients with
more/better information
•Understanding: Highlight to MDs that
increased communication leads to
greater adherence and improved
outcomes
Take-away: Quality of Life discussion
is important
•Dialogue research shows when
Quality of Life is evoked,
physicians are more receptive to
patient requirements and needs
•Highlight to patients, convenience
of Pradaxa—no daily monitoring,
no restrictions on food and
medications and thus no lifestyle
changes
DR: Sure. You mentioned
golf, how many holes do
you normally play?
PT: Eighteen.
DR: And are you still able to
do it?
PT: Yes, yeah, yeah.
DR: Okay.
PT: But, uh, the, I, I'm finding
for the last, uh, few months
I'm finding I'm, I'm getting
tired after, uh, maybe 13, 14
holes. (79346 - GP)
Takeaways: various stakeholders to be
involved in treatment management
•Highlight role played by
Caregivers in overall treatment
management and increase
involvement therein
•For Physicians: encourage
improved communication,
highlight gold-standard
examples
What did we do next?
•Using more emotive communication techniques
with the customers
•Campaign Materials
•Language
•Implement Patient Support Programmes
•Use Patient Friendly Language