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November
Joint publication of the New England Fiero Association and Mid Atlantic Fiero Owners Association
A PONTIAC CELEBRATION 2018NEW RECORDS SET FOR ATTENDANCE, CARS SHOWING, MONEY RAISED!
Submitted by: Gwen Randolph
This show gets bigger and better. Held every two years since 2010 this show, with the generous help ofPontiac enthusiasts, has raised lots of money for the two children's cancer charities – The Tomorrow Fund and Alex's Lemonade Stand. Checking out license plates of attendees from New England and beyond, you see how avid Pontiac enthusiasts are regarding these two charities. Check out Page 5 in this issue for the news release from organizers for the show, links to stories on the Pontiac Registry website and pictures from the show.
According to an email I received from Rick, the local show organizer, this year’s celebration was a tremen-dous success with 255 Pontiacs on the show field on Saturday, which is the most to date. The Fiero class had a good turnout with 14 Fieros of all years and models displayed along the driveway up to the hotel.
The Pontiac Performance Engine Build this year, built and donated by Nitemare Performance raised an add-itional $10,000. There were a limited number of tic-kets sold over the spring and summer and the lucky winner was announced at the banquet. Rick tells me that approximately $15,000 will be donated to the two charities this year.
A weekend show, a lot of the NEFA members stay at the hotel. Phil & I probably live 20 minutes from the hotel, but always choose to stay at the hotel so we don't miss out having fun with friends.
I understand plans are already in the works for the 2020 Celebration show. Hopefully you'll join in the Pontiac/Fiero fun in 2020.
L to R – Alan Ferris 1st, Lisa Virzi 2nd & Ron Yeager 3rd
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used on the 350 engine in a Camaro, a Nova, a Monte Carlo and a Chevelle. The same holds true for casting numbers. On a 1968-79 Nova, Camaro, Chevelle & Monte Carlo the casting number on thatsame 350 engine is 3932388. So the numbers are “CORRECT” for the car, which means it could have the original engine. Or Not !
Submitted by: Jerry Antunes
For those of us who are interested in collecting cars, we frequently hear three terms that are used in des-cribing, “VALUABLE COLLECTOR CARS”
I’ve been to many car shows and cruise nights where there is the talk of NUMBERS MATCHING or NUMBERS CORRECT or DOCUMENTED. I have and I’m sure many of you have been asked, what do these terms mean? In fact, some people think they all mean the same thing. Some will ask which is cor-rect, or which should they look for. In fact, each term has a different meaning while at the same time, each can change the value of the vehicle in question. Num-ber matching cars typically will have a much greater value than non-number matching cars.
So, which one is the best to look for when you want to buy or sell your car? In my opinion, to have the perfect and most valuable vehicle all three are your best bet. However, Numbers Matching & Numbers Correct are a safe investment. Documented is icing on the cake! You be the judge.
I will give some brief information based on my 48 years of repairing, rebuilding, researching, buying, selling, showing and judging show cars.
What do we mean when we say a car is a Numbers Matching car?
That means that when you check the numbers that are stamped on the engine, transmission and the differential, they all match the sequential, i.e. the last 6, numbers in the VIN or Vehicle Identification Num-ber. As we know, these stamped numbers can be changed. However, there are ways to “raise” the orig-inal numbers.
Numbers Correct on the other hand, means somethingvery different. For example, on a Chevy Nova with a 350 engine and manual transmission, when you checkthe engine numbers, you should see the letters CKA stamped on the pad. Problem is that CKA was also
THE NUMBERS MUST ADD UP
The last part is the Documentation. That is the paper-work that came with the vehicle, such as the Build Sheet, the Window Sticker, the Dealer Order Form, or the original Vehicle Registration papers. These docu-ments will show what equipment was ordered and what was actually installed on the vehicle at the fac-tory and who the vehicle was sold to.
Don’t get me wrong. If you are looking for that cer-tain, perfect car, there are other things, besides stamped numbers, that need to be considered. Thereare also “Clock Positions” cast into the parts that will tell what shift the part was made on. And there are cast in “date codes”. And each of these codes should relate to the date and time the rest of the car was built.
I could go on and on but, the bottom line is to doyour homework. There are many sources that youcan use to help you to figure out if what you’relooking at is really what it’s advertised to be.
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From Jerry Antunes collection of Fiero advertising
D9B Gear, speedometer drive (B) 35 teeth 14047637 (natural)
D9C Gear, speedometer drive (C) 35 teeth 94408341
D9D Gear, speedometer drive (D) 35 teeth 483082
D90 Stripe, front end, body side
D96 Stripe, body side upper
E5Z Speedo gears less adaptor
E9 Vehicle speed sensor
E9Z Speedo gears less keys
FW2 Transaxle, final drive, 3.06 ratio (85-86 V6 Auto)
FW5 Transaxle, final drive, 4.10 ratio (84 L4 option)
FX4 Transaxle, final drive, 3.35 ratio (85-88 L4 5 sp)
FX8 Transaxle, final drive, 3.61 ratio (86-88 5 sp)
F17 Transaxle, final drive, 2.84 ratio (87-88 L4 Auto)
F41 Suspension, heavy duty, front and rear (special)
F75 Transaxle, final drive, 3.18 ratio (84-86 L4)
GX3 Transaxle, final drive, 3.33 ratio (87-88 V6 85-86 SE option)
GY5 Transaxle, final drive, 3.65 ratio (85-86 V6 4 sp)
KO5 Heater, engine block
K22 Generator, 94 ampere
K34 Cruise control, electric
K60 Alternator, 100 ampere
RPO Codes
Submitted by: Bruce Homeyard
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A PontiacCelebration
2018Warwick, Rhode Island – September 21 – 23
The 2018 “Pontiac Celebration” Eastern Regional Meet was a huge success, setting all new records. Once again,our event has grown in the number of great Pontiacs showing and the number of Pontiac hobbyists enjoying this special weekend gathering.
Not forgetting the purpose of this event - “Pontiacs with aPurpose” - many gave their time, energy, and contribu-tions to our children's cancer charities. Alex's Lemon-ade Stand Foundation for Childhood Cancer and The Tomorrow Fund helping children and families affected by cancer. To date nearly $50,000 has been donated by “A Pontiac Celebration” from 2010 through 2018. All because of our generous Pontiac enthusiasts. Proving how great Pontiac people are!
While a few Pontiac lovers arrived as early as Thursday tohelp with the event, many more rolled in Friday to parti-cipate in our area-wide “Teddy Bear Cruise” that evening.Live music, food, and drink attracted many great cars of all types, makes and models cruising in for the fun.
The big even was the All Pontiac Car Show on Saturday. Sunny fall weather made for a great day. We were happyto see 255 beautiful Pontiacs on the show field. Once again many local and surrounding area Pontiac clubs came in force to make our event a huge success. We thank everyone for their support. As our event has grown in cars showing, so has the Saturday banquet a-wards dinner. The evening's sprawling BBQ dinner spread was enjoyed by a hungry crowd after a full day of fun and activities.
But the high point of the banquet was when the many awards were given out to all who worked so hard pre-paring their their cars. Top award of the evening - “Peo-ple's Choice” - went to Keith Bailey with his beautiful 1910 Oakland.
In addition, the vacation raffle saw a lucky winner head-ing off to a luxury condo vacation in the mountains of New Hampshire.
For more information about A Pontiac Celebration – 2018,visit https://www.pontiacregistry.com/celebration-2018/.
News release from the Celebration Committee
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What's Happening
November 17, 2018 - NEFA Annual Meeting. President Ray Paulk's home, 19 Bens Way, Hopedale, MA. Starts at Noon. Members are invited. We'll go to a local restaurant for something to eat after the meeting.
June 20-22, 2019 - Save the Date for 25 Years of Fieros at Carlisle.
Contact Kathy Jack (MAFOA) @ [email protected] or Gwen (NEFA) @[email protected] with any items to be included in the What's Happening section.
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1A Auto Show
Submitted by: Andrew Virzi
From the Pepperell, MA, 1A sponsored auto show on September 9, 2018.
Check the link below and scroll down. NEFA got a plug and a link to the NEFAwebsite too. Nice! Dan's Picks
Mental Health and Driving a Fast Car
Submitted by: Joseph Burke
As Joseph says, “Something that we've known for years.” Mental health and fast cars
ClassifiedsFieros:
1988 GT - 2 owner car, bought by current owner (and only driver since) in 1988 w/11,000 miles on it. It runs great, rides smooth. Car garaged kept until now. Currently covered (car cover included). Car is being sold because my wife wanted to downsize to a condo so I have no place to store it. The AC compressor failed in October so I just REDUCED THE PRICE TO $7,888.00. This car is sold with no warrantees. Bright RED with Gray interior. VIN # 1G2PG1191JP218748. 116,500 MILES. (HAVE ORIGINAL RADIO, PLUS SPARE PARTS TO BE INCLUDED PLUS MANUALS) More photos are available here. Please contact, Ted at [email protected]. 7/1
1988 Fiero GT - offered for sale in Reading, PA. This beauty has 18K original miles and has the 2.8 liter V6 paired with a 5 speed. The car is red w/grey interior and is garaged in Reading PA. Current owner has owned this vehicle since the early 1990s. For further information, please contact Dick @ [email protected]. Asking $11,500. 12/17
1987 Pontiac Fiero GT. V-6 Automatic 17,900 original miles on car. Car is appraised at $15,200, Selling for 10k, Please call Perry at 717-802-1662 or email @ [email protected] for more info. 12/17
1984 Pontiac Fiero Indy Pace Car, 4 speed, VIN# 1G2AF37R0EP251550. This car was purchased new by mybrother in 1984. It has been in our family its entire life, other than 1 year when my mothers 60-something-year-old friend owned it. We bought it back from her because she didn’t like the clutch. The car lived in Arizona until 1997, when I brought it to NY. It has never been driven in the snow. I have 6 other cars and I rarely drive this - under 200 miles a year. I have virtually every piece of paper associated with this car including the original purchase order, about 75 receipts for work done including engine replacement under warranty, and parts installed up to 2016 when I replaced the fuel pump and radiator. More information about this Pace car @ MAFOA Classifieds. Please contact Marc McCrossen (Rochester NY, 14610) [email protected] or @ 585-729-392O . More pictures are available here.
More Fieros for sale, click on - (MAFOA Classifieds)
Parts:
Mirror Control Repair Plate - Reinforcement backing plate repairs broken-out remote control bezel on driver'sdoor mirror. Kit includes easy to follow instructions, plate, extra bezel nuts, & two extra door panel clips just in case you break one. $9.00 covers kit & shipping. Tom Derr @ (717) 763-5748 or [email protected].
Various Parts & Accessories (Click HERE ) Contact: [email protected]
Fiero Toys, Literature & Collectibles:
Fiero Toy Box - Are you interested in Fiero collectibles? Ray Paulk has over 500 unique Fiero toys in his per-sonal collection and tons of toys in inventory, but don't expect cut rate prices as most Fiero toys are rare and hard to find. If you are interested you can contact Ray at [email protected].
Over 2,000 items cataloged - Dealer Brochures, Owner's Manuals, Workshop Manuals, Magazines, Pamphlets, Models, Die Cast, Pull-back Fieros, Slot Cars, Matchbox, Hot Wheels, Body parts, wheels, sunroofs, ash tray covers, many steering wheels, consoles. Tom Derr @ (717) 763-5748 or [email protected].
NEFA Merchandise & Apparel
NEFA T's - Check out the NEFA website http://fieropride.com/ and click on the NEFA Merchandise button toview the NEFA T-shirts for size & colors available. NEFA window sticker - $1.00 each.
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Repair/Painting:
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Company owned& operated byNEFA member,Andrew Virzi
Do you have something Fiero related to sellor have a Fiero related service you want to
advertise? This is the place. Send yourcontact information to:
Gwen (NEFA) @ [email protected]
or
Kathy (MAFOA) @ [email protected]
The FieroPride goes out to a wide audience.
BirthdaysThis month we wish a Happy Birthday to our members born in
November
Ric Tereso – NEFA
Dennis Furbush – NEFA
Brian Smith - NEFA
Lucas Cowger – MAFOA
Lee Hirneisen – MAFOA
Eric Phillips – MAFOA
Wes Shiring – MAFOA
If you have used a product that has givenyou good results, let us know so we canspread the word. Contact Kathy Jack
(MAFOA) @ t [email protected] orGwen (NEFA) @ [email protected]
Here are two that you may find helpful
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Fieroisms
Submitted by: Bruce Homeyard
You will never have enough time, energy or money to complete a kit car.
No matter how well you speak Italian you will never pronounce Fiero correctly, even when speaking Italian on an unrelated subject.
If your Fiero runs good, you must be in heaven.
Your "parts car" is best used for storing all the things that came off your primary car because what you needed is also bad on it.
A true Fiero fan believes that there were only 5 years in history 84 thru 88 everything else is X years BF (Before Fiero) or X years AF (After Fiero) there is no other marker of time.
I have often thought that the Fiero Chilton’s manual should include WARNING!
The hour prior to changing the pulley belts on your Fiero should be dedicated to practicing yoga and body contortion exercises. The hour after should be dedicated to post traumatic stress and anger management.