7/17/2019 Platon Charmides 158b

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Platon, Charmides 158B

[158b] as regards your visible form, dear son of Glaucon, I consider that no here haveyou fallen behind any of your ancestors! But if your nature is really rich in tem"eranceand those other things, as our friend here says, blessed is the son, dear Charmides, I

e#claimed, that your mother has borne in you$ %o ever, the case stands thus& if youalready "ossess tem"erance, as Critias here declares, and you are sufficiently tem"erate,then you never had any need of the charms of 'almo#is or of (baris the %y"erborean, 1

1 ( fabulous hero of the far north, to hom oracles and charms ere ascribed by theGree)s* cf! Hdt. 4.36 !

Plato! Plato in + elve olumes, ol! 8 translated by -!.!/! 0amb! Cambridge, /(,%arvard niversity Press* 0ondon, -illiam %einemann 0td! 1255!