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Serving our membership since 1975 Vol. 18, Issue 9http://eastern-michigan.aspe.org

*American Society of Plumbing Engineers

American Society of Sanitary Engineering

MAY 2015

From Bill Grayzar, CPDPresident of ASPE EMCPlumbing Design Classes

REGISTRATION REQUIRED

Respond to EventBrite Invite at

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or Contact Brianne Hall, VP Technical: (248) 324-4780 - [email protected]

SEE INSIDE COVER FOR TABLE OF CONTENTS

DATETuesday, May 19, 2015WHEREPlumbing Industry Training CenterSEE map on back page

MEETING BEGINS 4:30 PM - 5:30 PMPlumbing Venting Class Class #8

[Networking / Table Top Viewing]

DINNER 5:30 - 6:00 PMCost: ASPE, ASSE, MBPA Mbrs: NCNon-members: $18.00 FOR DINNER

MAY TECHNICAL SESSION 6:00 - 8:00 PMTopic: High Rise Draining & Venting, Design & Engineering

Speaker: Julius Ballanco P.E., CPD, FASPE, President of JB Engineering and Code Consulting, P.C.

Chapters are not authorized to speak for the Society.

I want to start my article this month by giving you an update on our long time ASPE EMC board member Mr. John Nussbaum, IPP, FASSE, FASPE. John has had to undergo surgery since his accident with his leg and is looking at a long road to recovery. Please keep him in your thoughts and prayers.

As we come to the end of the 2014-2015 year of ASPE technical programs. I would personally like to thank the 2014-2015 ASPE EMC Board members who supported

me throughout the year and who helped ASPE EMC to provide a great year of programs and events for the chapter and its members. I have truly enjoyed working with each and every one of the board members this year and I am inspired by the support and dedication they have provided. I would also like to thank the staff at MCA Detroit for their support and dedication to ASPE EMC, as well as other organizations. On behalf of the ASPE EMC Board, I would also like to thank all of the table top sponsors and technical speakers who supported us throughout the year. It is because of your continued support and

that our technical programs are supported. A thank you also goes out to all the speakers who were able to share their time and expertise. Finally I would like to thank Messrs. Mike Melaragni, CPD and Paul Baker who prepared and presented a fantastic series of courses on venting methodology throughout the year.

The new ASPE EMC Board will begin planning for the 2015-2016 technical programs and speakers on Saturday, June 13th, 2015. If there is a technical session you would like to see presented in next year’s program, now is the time contact one of the board members and give them your thoughts and ideas,

June 13th, 2015 and present your ideas in person. As always we welcome and encourage any of our chapter members to attend the open door summer planning session. The meeting location has been changed and will be announced at the Chapter meeting on May 19th, 2015. I am looking forward to another great year of programs.

which is scheduled for May 19th, 2015. The meeting will be held at the Plumbing Industry Training Center in Troy, MI.

2 May 2015

NOT ICES NOT ICES

PLANNING MEETING, FOR SCHEDULING OF

THE 2015-2016 TECHNICAL

PROGRAMS AND SPEAKERS, TO BE

HELD JUNE 13, 2015, LOCATION TBD,

8AM SHARP. WE WOULD LOVE YOUR

FEEDBACK! CONTACT BILL GRAYZAR

AT [email protected] FOR MORE INFO.

ASPE TECHNICAL SYMPOSIUM,

OCT. 1-4, 2015 IN ST. LOUIS, MISSOURI

(SEE PG. 11)

ASPE IS ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS FOR THE ALFRED STEELE SCHOLARSHIPThe Alfred Steele Scholarship has $3,000 in available monies

their immediate families who have a GPA of 3.0 or higher, who are enrolled in or plan to enroll in an engineering program at a college, university, or technical school on a full-time basis. Contact Stacey Kidd for more information at (847) 296-0002, or email [email protected]

PLUMBING TRAINING CENTER ASSE BACKFLOW RE-CERTIFICATION

any member who is eligible. If you’re interested, please call the Training Center and get your name on the sign-up list for the next class training.

MAY PROGRAMHIGH RISE DRAINAGE & VENTING Design & Engineering [Single Stack 2012 MI Code]

Speaker: Julius Ballanco, P.E., CPD, FASPE President of JB Engineering and Code Consulting, P.C.

The ICC International Plumbing Code allows the design of various single stack drainage and venting systems. Once a building has multiple stories, a single

plumbing system. This program will review the design requirements for the three different types of single stack system. Included will be single stack design, also known as the Philadelphia single stack, sovent, and waste stack venting. The sizing, layout, and design options will be addressed. [**keeping in mind the 2012 Michigan Plumbing Code**] Handling Representatives Association. Norm is a graduate of the Wayne State University Engineering School.

Julius Ballanco, P.E., CPD, FASPE is President of JB Engi-

and standard consulting in the areas of plumbing, mechani-

currently the President of the American Society of Plumbing Engineers Research Foundation. He is Past President of the American Society of Plumbing Engineers. Mr. Ballanco pre-viously was head of Plumbing and Mechanical Engineering

-ternational, Inc. He is a monthly columnist in both Plumbing & Mechanical and PM Engineer magazines. He has authored Illustrated Plumbing Codes Design Handbook, Ballanco on

and the Plumbing of Residential Fire Sprinklers and has also co-authored the Illustrated National Plumbing Code Design Manual. Mr. Ballanco serves on many national standard com-mittees, including ANSI/ASME, IAPMO, ASTM, NSF, ICC, and ASSE. A graduate of Stevens Institute of Technology, he is both a Registered Professional Engineer and Licensed Master Plumber.

Contents

Programs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .2 -3

Venting Sessions . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3

VP Technical Report . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4

VP Education Report . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6

ASPE Technical Symposium . . . . . . . . . 8

April Program Attendees & Sponsors . . 9

ASSE Awards Banquet Photos . . 12 - 13

Line Card Sponsors . . . . . . . . . . . 14 - 15

ASPE News - Eastern Michigan Chapter 3

President's Report (cont. from page 1) Bill Grayzar, CPD

SESSIONS ON VENTING EACH MONTH Speaker(s) Mike Melaragni and/or Paul Baker of the Plumbing Industry Training Center The Eastern Michigan Chapter of ASPE hosts a series of Plumbing Venting Design classes from 4:30 PM to 5:30 PM in addition to our technical program. These detailed step-by-step reviews of the updated Chapter 9 Vents section of the 2012 Michigan Plumbing Code, are sure to provide details of interest to many plumbing professionals. Required text: 2012 Michigan Plumbing Code and ASPE Data Book Volume 2 – current edition.

*** TAKE NOTICE***All Professional Engineers

The above venting class held

monthly from 4:30 - 5:30 PM, with

instructor(s) Mike Melaragni and/or

Paul Baker can be counted towards

your professionally required REUs,

CEHs, and CEUs.

These one-hour venting classes

will run from October - May.

DESIGN CLASS INSTRUCTORMICHAEL MELARAGNI , CPDDirector, Metropolitan Plumbing Industry Training Center

DESIGN CLASS INSTRUCTORPAUL BAKERInstructor, Metropolitan Plumbing Industry Training Center

Please send your caring thoughts and prayers to

Mr. John Nussbaum for a quick and

complete recovery.

Dinner and vendor table top displays and discussions will begin at 5:00 PM followed at 6:00 PM by our technical program on High Rise Drainage & Venting - Design & Engineering (Single Stack 2012 MI State Code) featuring Mr. Julius Ballanco P.E, CPD, FASPE President of JB Engineering and Code Consulting, P.C.

I look forward to seeing you at the Plumbing Industry Training Center on May 19th, 2015.

Bill

VP TechnicalBrianne Hall, P.E., LEED AP BD+C, CPD

4 May 2015

Eastern Michigan Chapter of ASPE is quickly coming to an end and I’ve found

past year.

Last May, during the car ride to the Region 2 meeting, discussion about having to search thru emails for meeting RSVPs to provide a catering count led to the idea of

using Eventbrite. The board completed a couple beta tests using Eventbrite for the summer planning session and summer board meetings, and decided to start utilizing it for our programs in September. I’ve received positive feedback throughout the year, and we will continue to use Eventbrite next year.

This year we have incorporated design classes into our monthly programs, holding them prior to the technical presentation. We have also started providing proof of continuing education credits

All of the monthly meetings and implemented changes have

I wanted to address.

trend throughout the year of members who RSVP for dinner, however do not come to the meeting without providing

charge for all members of ASPE, ASSE and MBPA, which we would like to maintain.

our technical meeting. If notice is not provided, we will request that you pay for dinner. I will provide reminders about providing cancellation in the summer newsletter, and will be stated on the future Eventbrite invitations. It is our hope that this will encourage everyone to provide cancellation notices which will increase our caterer headcount accuracy, reducing the amount of leftover food, and will positively impact the chapter expenditures for each meeting.

The second improvement for next year is to aim to provide a handout of the presentation at the meeting. We were able to provide that for a handful of meetings this year and when it was not available the presentation was later emailed to those who requested a copy. Based on the feedback stated on the evaluation forms, we understand the strong desire to have a handout of the presentation available at the time of the meeting and will aim to provide that each month.

If you have any feedback about this year’s technical programs, the changes that have been implemented, or would like to suggest any changes or improvements for next year’s program, please contact any of the board members.

vent design class series covering Single Stack Vent Systems.

We have received positive feedback on the design classes and will be continue to provide design classes next year prior to the technical presentation.

Our technical presentation discussed High Rise Water Distribution – Design and Engineering. Thank you to Norm Hall, P.E., President of the R.L. Deppmann Company for providing this presentation!

are 75 ft in height or taller. Detroit is ranked 16th in the nation with 166 high rise buildings.

Designing a high rise water distribution system requires an understanding of all pressure conditions and requirements. This requires determining the available water pressure, understanding the state and local code requirements with regards to pressure requirements, reviewing the expectations of the client to determine the required water pressure at each

minimum required pressure.

The required pressure is calculated by adding the minimum

to account for friction losses within the system and the building elevation.

The available pressure to the building is determined by subtracting the pressure losses acquired thru the water meter,

measured pressure available at the exterior building water main connection.

When the required pressure is determined to be higher than the available pressure, a pressure booster pump must be installed.

Various methods of high rise plumbing distribution systems were discussed as was the importance of identifying pressure zones and sensor locations. Improper sensor location of the

usage throughout the year. Hot water and cold water system designs were discussed, as well as recirculation systems.

In May, the High Rise Plumbing discussion will continue with High Rise Drainage and Venting – Design and Engineering.

Register at this link: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/aspe-emc -may-2015-technical-program-registration-16529591453

until September.

Our planning meeting for next year’s programs will be held on Saturday, June 13th. If you have suggestions for design classes or technical presentations for next year, please attend the meeting or contact me with your suggestions prior to June 13th.

Please contact me at [email protected] or 248-324-4780 with any questions, suggestions or comments.

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In March, I was fortunate enough to take part in a tradition that is almost fading away in my family, making maple syrup. I wanted to share some of the statistics behind it that parallel what we do every day. In the process, I also wanted to honor my grandfather, Arnold Lamberson, who passed away last month; the same month that he would have taken to the woods with a brace and

bit to tap a couple of dozen sugar maples every year.

In 2003, my grandfather asked me to bring my video camera

sap into our favorite confection in his household. I helped him tap over two dozen trees, but it was a slow weekend, so I was unable to help cook the sap down to syrup. That would come to be the last year that he made it.

In March, this came full circle when a friend of mine had some extra sap that he was not going to use. I have no maples available to tap, so I gladly accepted. The following data is derived from my two day production of a half gallon of syrup from twenty gallons of sap. Yes, you read it correctly; it takes twenty gallons of sap to make a half gallon of syrup.

My setup was very rudimentary because I did not have a large volume to cook down, and I had to act quickly because the sap could spoil with the rising temperatures outside. I set up a two burner propane stove outside and heated a rectangular pan for nearly two working days to get the water out of the sap and

concentration and 219.5 degree temperature. I blocked three sides of the stove with sheet metal to cut down on the effects of the wind. I also fed the sap at a rate equivalent to the amount of water that was being boiled off. This was approximately a gallon per hour, which is very slow compared to a larger and more established process. I kept the sap between a half inch and one inch deep in the pan during the boiling process. Here are the results.

• Twenty gallons of sap yielded about a half gallon of syrup, which is a very common ratio.

• content, so the sap was roughly 1.6% sugar. This is on the low end, but maple trees can give off sap with lower sugar content later in the season.

• To cook 20 gallons of sap, I had to raise the temperature from approximately 45 degrees Fahrenheit to exactly 219.5 degrees Fahrenheit, or a delta-t of 174 degrees.

• The weight of the sap was 166.6 pounds, so we can calculate the BTU's required to accomplish this at 29,058 BTU's.

• I used approximately two 20 pound "barbecue bottles" that contained approximately 344,750 BTU's each, and

to 4.2%.

Most of the people I know that make their own syrup

Borer has wiped out a majority of the Ash trees locally,

be Ash. Based on 7.2 million BTU's per face cord, and a cost of $60.00, we can surmise that someone cooking with Ash could do it for about $5.75.

The bottom line is that it took me about twenty hours and $28.00 (not counting the cost of my wife's ruined pan) to make a half gallon of syrup. Most people I told this to wouldn't want to make that kind of effort for such a small reward, and admittedly, it looks hilarious on paper. I had the luxury of free syrup for thirty years, so if I want my kids to experience what my grandfather gave to me, I am more than happy to oblige. Thanks, Grandpa.

On another note, ASPE national has decommissioned

in the system and I will be testing it out in the next

differently, so please let me know if you have any issues.

I also started distributing the ASPE spreadsheets to the new members and current members that attended technical sessions for this past season. If you did not get an invite to download the spreadsheets and feel you should have, please contact me at [email protected].

Finally, our planning meeting will occur in June. Any input on technical session topics is greatly appreciated. You may also feel free to attend in person. Contact one of the board members for more information.


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2014-2015 ASPE-EMC Board and Committee ChairpersonsPresidentWilliam Grayzar, CPD

(248)569-1430 [email protected]

Vice President TechnicalBrianne Hall, P.E., LEED AP BD+C, CPDFTC&H39500 Mac Kenzie Dr. Suite 100

Novi MI 48377(248) [email protected]

Vice President Legislative (Imm. Past President)Joseph V. Hernandez, CPD 7360 Katrin Drive

(248) [email protected]

Vice President Membership Amanda Belcher, LEED-GA Strategic Energy Solutions 4000 W. Eleven Mile Rd. Berkley, MI 48072 (248) 399-1900 Fax 399-1901 [email protected]

Treasurer Pamela Hartsell, CPD Strategic Energy Solutions 4000 W. Eleven Mile Rd. Berkley, MI 48072 (248) 399-1900 x 222 Fax: 399-1901 [email protected]

Administrative Secretary John Nussbaum, IPP, FASSE, FASPE MCA Detroit 14801 W. Eight Mile Road Detroit, MI 48235 (313) 341-7661 Fax: 341-1007 [email protected]

Corresponding Secretary George D. Johnston Balfrey & Johnston, Inc. P.O. Box 37317 Oak Park, MI 48237 (313) 864-2800 Fax: 864-7219 [email protected]

Dann Holmes NSF International 789 N. Dixboro Rd Ann Arbor, MI 48105 (248) 921-0582 [email protected]

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VP Education Mark Lamberson, CPD 81190 Church Street, Memphis MI 48041-5401 (810) 392-5010 [email protected]

Board Member Cindy Zatto, FASSE V. E. Sales Company, Inc. 25200 Jefferson Ave. St. Clair Shores, MI 48081 (586) 774-7760 Fax: 774-1490 [email protected]

Board Member Michael Melaragni M.D.P.I.T.C. 1911 Ring Drive Troy, MI (313) 565-5580 Fax 565-9818

Board Member Esteban Cabello, PE, FASPE JRED Engineering, Inc. 5608 Charlesworth St. Dearborn Heights, Mi 48127 (313) 565-5580 Fax 565-9818

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