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    Pneumatic Squib For On-Actor Film Blood Effectsby Crosius on November 5, 2007

    Table of Contents

    Pneumatic Squib For On-Actor Film Blood Effects .....................................................................................

    Intro: Pneumatic Squib For On-Actor Film Blood Effects ..............................................................................

    Step 1: Building the Control Hose ..............................................................................................

    Step 2: Build the Hand Held Control ............................................................................................

    Step 3: Build the Effect Assembly ..............................................................................................

    Step 4: Using the Effect ......................................................................................................

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    Intro: Pneumatic Squib For On-Actor Film Blood EffectsThis Instructable is derived from available Internet resources on fabricating special-effect blood-shooter devices from hand-pumped garden sprayers. It seeks mainly tminaturise the design.

    This particular design grew out of a general dissatisfaction with the restrictions the garden-sprayer style of blood-shooter placed on the staging and choreography ofblood effect shots.

    The goal was to create a device that could replace the garden-sprayer design in all situations, and add flexibility in staging effect shots.

    Image Notes1. The Hand Control2. Air Reservoir

    Step 1:Building the Control HoseThe Control Hose carries air between the hand-held remote section of the device and the effect section of the device. It is the simplest element to construct, so we'll bit first.

    The control line consists of only two unique components: the hosing and identical fittings at either end. The hosing is 1/8" OD urethane line. The fittings are 90universal fittings with 10-32 threads

    Clippard Parts List:2x UT0-21x 1/16" internal diameter polyurethane hose.

    Substitution Option:2x Beswick Engineering MLS-1008-1-303 instead of the UT0-2Beswick makes the smaller, square swivels with countersunk screw-heads that work just as well as the hexagonal UT0-2 fitting from Clippard, but they don't sell themindividually.

    Image Notes1. Clippard UT0-2 (hexagonal body) or Beswick Engineering MLS-1008-1-303 (square body)2. Clippard UT0-2 (hexagonal body) or Beswick Engineering MLS-1008-1-303 (square body)

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    Step 2:Build the Hand Held ControlThe control unit allows the device to be charged with air, and holds pressure in the device until the actor t riggers the effect. It is a design that was originally developed a pilot trigger for an air cannon.

    Clippard Parts List:

    1x 3-way toggle valve (TV-3S)1x Check-Valve ( I used a MCV-1BB and a short coupling 11999 - you can save a part and use a MCV-1AB)Then, use one of the following air inlet designs

    Design 11x 1/8" barb with 10-32 threads (CT4) capped with a1/x short piece of 1/8" ID 1/4" OD urethane hose.

    Design 2A Quick Disconnect assembly made up of:1x MJQC-VMT 10-32 threaded valve body1x MJQC-CB4 1/8 barb quick disconnect cap

    1. The check valve will have an arrow on it. If you ordered the valve with the suffix AA, screw a short coupling into the end of the valve the arrow points at. If you orderthe valve with the suffix AB, this end of the valve will already have male threads.

    2. Screw the check valve into the bottom of the 3-way toggle so the arrow points towards the 3-way valve.

    3. Screw either of the inlet assemblies described above into the open end of the check valve.

    4. There is one remaining threaded port on the 3-way (the output)- attach your signal/control line to that port. The smaller, non-threaded opening on the 3-way is theexhaust and it should not be obstructed.

    That's it - you should have something resembling the pictures from the above tutorial.

    Image Notes1. TV-3S2. MCV-1BB & 119993. MJQC-VMT & MJQC-CB4

    Image Notes1. Attach the control hose here.2. Exhaust port - do not obstruct.

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    Image Notes1. This is actually a Beswick Engineering 10-32 thread - 1/8 OD hose barbelbow. It has the same features as a Clippard UT0-2, but it's got a square bodyinstead of a hexagonal one.

    Image Notes1. A Clippard UT0-2 Swivel Elbow. Slightly different that the square swivelelbows (from Beswick Engineering) in the other images.

    Step 3:Build the Effect AssemblyThe effect unit was designed as a miniature pneumatic cannon.

    Clippard Parts List:1x 2-cubic-inch volume chamber (MAT-2.0)1x 10-32 solid plug (11755)1x 10-32 miniature quick exhaust valve (MEV-2)2x 1/8" barbs with 10-32 threads (CT4)1x 10-32 bulkhead fitting (15027)1x short piece of 1/8" ID urethane hose.1x long piece of 3/8" ID hose. (A foot of 3/8" hose holds 20 mL of stage blood. The squib can eject all the stage blood from 3 feet of hose, so the length of this hose widetemine how "juicy" your squib is.)

    OPTION: Substitute 1 4CQ4 fitting (1/4" NPT to 1/8" Barb) for the 15027 (Bulkhead fitting) and one of the CT4 (10-32 to 1/8" barb) elements.

    1. Screw the solid plug into one of the ports on the Volume Chamber.

    2. Screw the quick exhaust valve into the other port on the volume chamber. There's only one male port on the QEV, so you can't get this wrong. (but for clarity, it'slabelled "C")

    3. One of the remaining ports on the QEV will be marked "E". This is the port you attach the effect tube to. Screw one of the 10-32 threaded 1/8" barbs into the port.

    4. Attach a short piece of 1/4" OD urethane line to the barb.

    5. Screw another 1/8" barb into the hexagon-shaped end of one of the 10-32 bulkhead fittings. Plug the barbed end of this fit ting into the short piece of 1/4" OD line. Yomay remove the retaining nut and lock-washer from the bulkhead fitting - you don't need them.

    6. Work about a foot of the 3/8" vinyl tubing onto the bulkhead fitting. It will be a tight fit. I used needle-nosed pliers to stretch the hose to fit the fitting.

    7. Attach one end of your control line to the remaining port on the QEV - it will be marked "L"

    8. Squash the unconnected end of the 3/8" tubing flat and tape it shut with a strong waterproof tape.

    9. Pierce or cut a port near the taped end of the hose which will act as the nozzle through which the stage blood will be ejected.

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    Image Notes1. 117552. MAT-2.03. MEV-24. 15027

    Step 4:Using the EffectUse of the Effect:

    1. Fill the effect tube and cover the output hole with the smallest possible piece of low-tack masking tape.2. Tape the effect under the actor's clothing in the appropriate orientation. If the tube must be oriented with the output hole higher than the quick-exhaust, I recommenpushing a plug of banana down the hose before fill ing it with stage-blood.3. Dress the actor in the outer costume and pass the control module down the actor's sleeve to their hand.4. Make a very small cut in the costume over the output hole of the effect. The smaller the hole, the more blood will stay on the actor's clothes. The larger the hole, themore blood will spray away from the actor.5. Flip the switch towards the control line fitting and connect your air supply to the air inlet. Pressurise to between 60 and 100 PSI. (use a pump with a gauge, or acompressor with a regulator)6. Disconnect your air supply and film the scene - the check valve will keep the squib pressurised.

    7. When the actor is ready, he can flip the switch and the effect will trigger.

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    Image Notes1. This is one of those conical adapters for filling air mattresses from a bikepump.2. If you're lucky, this is the small bit of hose you'll need to directly attach thebike pump to the squib.3. A longer bit of hose lets you use a friction-fit inflation adapter to attach thesquib to a bike pump

    Image Notes1. Some bike pumps can grab the short hose and cinch tight enough topressurise the squib.

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    ScubaSteve says: Nov 28, 2009. 11:00 PM REPWhere might i find all of these?

    Crosius says: Nov 29, 2009. 7:27 AM REPThe parts are all available at Clippard's online store (www.clippard.com)

    If you have a local reseller like Wainbee, you may want to have them order the parts for you.

    If you can't find a local source for Clippard parts, a company by the name of Pneumadyne makes similar products.

    RavingMadStudios says: Nov 2, 2009. 6:14 AM REPWell, we're now in tech rehearsals forour little stage production using 8 of these marvelous devices, and I thought I would post a few "lessons learned" typtips that may be helpful for those doing stage work (as opposed to f ilm, which can be more forgiving of "oops" moments).1. Adding a tee fitt ing (Clippard # 15002-3) to move the check valve next to the cylinder and substituting a 2-way valve (Clippard # TV-2S) for the three-wavalve greatly increases the concealability of the tr igger.2. We have found that using small amounts of poster-tack style removable putty adhesive to seal the hole in the effect tube (rather than the low-tack maskitape), seems to reduce premature blood leakage when the actors have to wear their loaded squib for extended periods before firing it, or when they have tmove around a lot onstage before activating the effect. The effect still works perfectly with the poster-tack, as long as you don't use way too much.3. I highly recommend purchasing extra screw plugs (Clippard # 11755, the same as used to seal the top of the air cylinder) for use as a safety. Actors canbe kind of clumsy sometimes, and the last thing you want during a performance is someone accidentally triggering a squib backstage. The screw plug isused to seal the exhaust hole in the toggle valve, and prevents the squib from firing even if the toggle switch is flipped. A stagehand simply removes the pluwith a screwdriver at the appropriate time to "arm" the device. You could also use a second toggle valve attached intothetrigger line for this purpose, butthis would increase the expense a bit. Either way, a safety of some kind is a very good idea.Anyway, this is a great effect, and it's really giving our production a very polished and professional look. Thanks once again to Crosius for sharing it with us

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    Crosius says: Nov 2, 2009. 3:29 PM REPBlu-tac for plugging the tube is a great idea!

    Also, great solution for avoiding early triggering. Too bad it wil l only work with the two-way valve, though, as the three-way's exhaust isn't threaded 10-32 and the plug won't screw into it - if I wasn't using 3-ways on my squibs, I'd be using that on the next set.

    RavingMadStudios says: Jul 27, 2009. 8:00 AM REPHi there, it's me again. I was just noticing that the effect assembly in the intro page picture seems a bit different than the one in the rest of the Instructable. that a check valve in place of the 1/8" ID hose between the quick exhaust valve and the bulkhead fitting, or just a section of tubing? Also, just out of curiosido you know how long the circuit will hold pressure and still f ire correctly? As I mentioned in a previous comment, I'd like to use this effect in a stageproduction, so there could be an appreciable gap between pressuring the device and firing it (probably about 30 minutes at the absolute longest, most l ikelmuch shorter). Do you think this would be an issue? Thanks once again for a great design.

    Crosius says: Sep 10, 2009. 7:25 PM REPUpdate on pressure retention: I have successfully discharged a squib a whole day (24 hrs) after pressurising i t. You should definitely be able to keep asquib on an actor for a whole scene.

    RavingMadStudios says: Sep 11, 2009. 7:15 AM REPThanks for the update. I built one last week, and after the initial "just playing with it" phase, I let it sit for about 6 hours, and it fired beautifully. Nice tknow they can go up to at least 24 without losing pressure, though. I've got parts for 7 more coming in the mail next week. This is a great device, anit's going to make the show look fantastic. I've made a couple of very minor mods to your design: I put in the T (as we discussed earlier) to move thcheck valve closer to the cylinder, I added a push-fit splice connector to the effect tube to make it easier to fill the tube with blood and banana plugsand I'm sealing the end of the effect tube with vinyl glue instead of tape. So far, everything works even better than advertised. I highly recommendthat anyone who needs bullet hits for a film or show just go ahead and build a few of these. They work very well, and are totally worth the expense.Just do it, you won't be sorry.

    Crosius says: Sep 11, 2009. 3:49 PM REPSeven? Sounds like quite the bloodbath. The push-fit connector sounds like a good idea for quick reloading and quickly changing the hoselengths. Are you using something like the PQ-RU1208 from Clippard? (3/8" to 1/4" OD reducer). I'll have to try that on my next batch of squibs.

    RavingMadStudios says: Sep 12, 2009. 6:25 AM REPYeah, I'll actually have nine total (including the first one I made, and an alternate version made from a CO2 bike tire inflator), and we'rereloading at intermission to reuse them all in Act II. Plus several "wall splatter" effects to simulate headshots, a garroting, mouth blood packa slit throat, and a severed ear. Bloodbath indeed. I'm suggesting that the audience bring tarps. The push-fit splice was kind of anafterthought, but it does make reloading very convenient. It's a straight union, more like PQ-SU12. I got it from Lowe's on a whim while I wabuying the vinyl tubing for the effect tube. I like the idea of a reducer, though. I think I'll try that next time. By the way, if you're ever inStatesboro GA, drop me a line. I want to buy you a beer or something.

    Crosius says: Sep 12, 2009. 7:58 AM REPSounds amazing. By far the most elaborate use of these squibs that I've heard of to date.

    RavingMadStudios says: Sep 12, 2009. 10:18 AM REPIndeed. Funny thing is, I should really be using 15 squibs, but I had to scale back for budgetary reasons. What makes this funny is ththe point of the show is about how violent, vengeful behavior is a Very Bad Thing (tm). The playwright has chosen to convey thismessage via an orgy of bloodshed. The really funny thing is, it works. Anyway, thanks again. I'll post some pics of the showsomewhere when the time comes and send you a link so you can see what your creativity has wrought.

    Crosius says: Jul 27, 2009. 4:01 PM REPThat's just a brass coupling with 10-32 threads at either end I had around the shop - it has the same function as the short bit of 1/8" tubing with the 1/8barb fittings on either end, but it is less useful, since the squib is stuck in that "L" configuration. My Squib has held pressure for 10 minutes and workedfine when triggered after that time. I haven't had an application that required a longer delay, so I haven't tried longer than that. The valves and threadsseal very tight at 100 psi and I cannot detect any leaks in my squib. How long a specific squib can hold pressure depends on how well the threadedconnections are sealed, and how tightly the valve internals seal. If you do find that a threaded fitting is leaking (hold the pressurised squib underwaterand watch for bubbles), you can use plumber's silicon tape to seal the threads. If a valve leaks, you can't do much more than exchange it, as theinternals aren't serviceable. Even with a slow leak, the squib will still operate properly at pressures down to around 40-50 psi, so you might still have timto pressurise off stage (to 100 psi), wait 20 minutes and then fire a squib that still has 40 psi of pressure in it. The exception to this would be if the QEV

    leaking out of the exhaust-way - that would make the stage blood "ooze" out of the squib before it was time.

    Sruggiero86 says: Aug 12, 2009. 8:48 PM REPSo I made this following all of the directions and the chamber wont fill up...could my mini exhaust vale be faulty....it feels like only 2 psi comes out

    Crosius says: Aug 13, 2009. 4:54 AM REPHmm. Do me a favour and unscrew the mini exhaust valve from the pressure chamber. Attach your pump and see if air flows easily out of the miniexhaust valve when you pump. Without the tank attached, there should be no obstacle to air flowing out of the exhaust valve and you should feel a gooair flow. Let me know what happens.

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    Sruggiero86 says: Aug 13, 2009. 11:28 PM REPI think it's me... I guess 100psi feels like a lot less pressure then I though...are there bigger volume chambers that will hold a greater psi for a morepowerful effect, or could i use a thinner tube to fill with the stage blood?

    Crosius says: Aug 14, 2009. 5:01 AM REPHave you tried using the squib with the effect tube full of water? 2 cubic inches of 100psi air doesn't feel like much, but if i t has something to puagainst it has plenty of energy. If you've found that your squib "squirts" for too long, you may just need to enlarge the hole in the effect tube. If ydo decide you want more energy available to the effect, all the parts f rom Clippard are rated to work up to 250psi (max), so you can try pumpingyour squib up to 150psi. I wouldn't recommend going any higher than that, as it's a good idea to leave a safety margin for temperature changesand the 1/16 hosing sometimes has flaws that cause it to burst at higher pressures. In my testing, I found that too much pressure tended to makthe stage blood turn into a f ine mist that didn't show up on film very well, so you'll have to experiment. There are larger volume chambers.Clippard makes them in 2.0, 2.4, 3.6 and 4.0 cubic inches. That would give you more air volume (and allow you to use more stage blood) at the

    cost of increased bulk to conceal under the actor's costume.

    poppamies says: Jul 2, 2009. 2:03 PM REPwhere did you get the mini exhaust valve?

    Crosius says: Jul 2, 2009. 3:48 PM REPThe valve is a 10-32-threaded, miniature quick exhaust valve f rom Clippard Minimatic (www.clippard.com) The part number in their catalog is MEV-2. Ihad a local pneumatic parts supplier (Wainbee) order the parts for me from Clippard, but you can use Clippard's online store to buy directly from them.

    RavingMadStudios says: May 27, 2009. 8:53 AM REPThis is amazingly elegant. I was looking for a compact non-pyro effect for use in live theatre, and this looks to be an ideal solution. Thanks very much forsharing it. One question: Have you given any thought to modifying the trigger to use a solenoid valve, which could then be tr iggered with an r/c relay? I askbecasue I'm trying to avoid actor-triggering (don't want the audience to see the trigger), and I can't have a control line running offstage. Any reason you canthink of that something like that wouldn't work?

    Crosius says: May 27, 2009. 4:05 PM REPYes, you can substitute a solenoid valve. The ASCO Series AL valves are miniature (6- or 12-volt coil) solenoid driven 3-ways with 10-32 threads thatcould be used to trigger this squib. Sadly, they are $75 valves (last t ime I checked), so they more than double the cost of the squib, even without controcircuitry. You'd need an electronic remote that could generate a 6- or 12-volt pulse to trigger the squib. I 've been tinkering with a 5v triggered monostabcircuit to do this. Unfortunately, I haven't built anything, yet.

    RavingMadStudios says: May 27, 2009. 5:59 PM REP$75 bucks? Holy guacamole. Add in the RF gear, relays. battery packs, etc. and your elegant, compact and inexpensive design becomes way toobulky and expensive for a cash-strapped theatre company to consider. I think you were right the first time. Maybe actor-triggered isn't so bad afterall.... I might still be willing to try it if I didn't need 12 of the things (it's a very bloody play). Oh well, perhaps for another project. Anyway, thanks agafor a great tutorial and a beautiful design.

    Crosius says: May 27, 2009. 6:16 PM REPI agree - that's why I'm trying to solve the problem pneumatically. There are ways to have several squibs go off sequentially with only one triggeevent. If you attach the signal line from a second squib to the bottom of the reservoir of the first squib, they will go off one after the other. You cadaisy-chain many of these squibs together that way. (eg. machine gun hits) If you splice a "Whisker" valve into the signal line with a "T" fitting,

    you can make the trigger very sensitive. If you had the whisker sticking out of your actor's shirt-cuff, they could trigger the effect by moving theirhand (as when raising your hands). With the addition of a loop in the whisker, you could use a thread pulled by a stage-hand or even an anchorthread that the actor pulled against when he stood on his mark. A slight shift in weight would be enough to trigger the effect.

    RavingMadStudios says: May 28, 2009. 5:57 AM REPInteresting. I'm not familiar with whisker valves, but I'll definitely check it out. I am assuming that if you T the whisker valve into the signal linyou'd then have two options for firing - the whisker or the toggle. This is just an assumption, but it could be useful if it pans out. As far as thedaisy-chaining goes, that could be very useful as well. I may wind up needing a couple of rapid hits for this show, depending upon the stagiI'm guessing something like a schrader valve in place of the solid plug on the reservoir (and an appropriately fitted connector line) would dothe trick, with the added benefit of making the daisy-chaining a "modular" option rather than a hard-plumbed design choice. Come to think oit, if there's a schrader valve on the reservoir, couldn't the device be pressurized that way as well, thereby avoiding having to pressurize fromthe trigger end? This is where my limited knowledge of pneumatic valving comes in, but if the squib can be pressurized from the reservoirend, wouldn't that allow the 3-way toggle on the signal line to be replaced with a simple 2-way valve (maybe just a whisker valve by itself?),and eliminate the need for the check valve assembly altogether? That would be really cool for my purposes, because it would make thetrigger assembly smaller, and thus more easily concealable onstage. Or perhaps I'm missing something critical in the valving, and it wouldnwork at all? As I said, I'm no expert. Thanks very much for all your great ideas, and sorry to be such a pain in the hinder.

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    Crosius says: May 28, 2009. 6:08 AM REPA whisker valve is the pneumatic equivalent of a microswitch - it's a 2-way that is sealed when the whisker is straight and opens when thwhisker is deflected. You're correct that splicing one into the signal line would give you two triggers. To remove the toggle valve, you'dscrew the check valve into one end of the T, the whisker into another, and have the signal line run from the remaining leg of the T. Youdon't need anything fancy to connect the second squib - the threaded fittings on the end of the signal line screw directly into that hole (ydon't use the trigger assembly for the second squib) You can't pressurise the system from the reservoir side. The Quick Exhaust Valveonly hold pressure if it is pressurised from the signal-line side. To replace the 3-way with a 2 way (or a whisker valve), you'd need a T inthe signal line with the check-valve attached there. The check valve lets you put pressure in, but stops it from coming out. You could puthat T very close to the reservoir and tape the check valve to that for neatness.

    RavingMadStudios says: May 28, 2009. 10:31 AM REP

    OK, I get it now. I had my brain in backwards there for a minute, I do like the idea of adding the T and putting the check valve closerthe reservoir. I think I'll give that configuration a try, and maybe pick up a couple of whisker valves to play with, too. Based on thespecs from the Clippard website, the whiskers might be a little too sensitive for what I need, but it's definitely worth testing. Thanksvery much for all of your help. You rock.

    wangxiao says: Mar 29, 2009. 2:38 PM REPThis is by FAR the best, most elegant design I've seen for a non-pyrotechnic squib. I do have some questions though.

    It seems that the UT0-2 fitting costs $11 for one, with a minimum order quantity of 5, so it comes out to five fittings for $55 dollars, approximately. I found thpart EA-LB10 from Pneumadyne seems to be comparable (10-32 threads with 1/16 inch barb), but for a little over $2.00 a piece, with a MOQ of 25... so forsimilar price, it seems you can get 25 instead of 5. Is this really a comparable part?

    Also, I think it would be a nicer design if the 3-way valve that triggers the effect used a push-button actuator instead of a flip-switch. The push-button 3-waytoggle valves I found seem to be listed as either "normally open" or "normally closed." My assumption would be that the TV-3S is normally closed, but I'd likto know for sure which one I should buy.

    Thanks again for the excellenttutorial!

    Crosius says: Mar 29, 2009. 8:30 PM REPI have some of the Pneumadyne fittings and they work just as well. As long as you keep the 10-32 threads and 1/16" barb features, you'll be fine. At thetime I built this part, I wasn't too clear on which (NO or NC) to buy, either, so I cheated a bit and bought a toggle switch. When the switch is in the "readposition, the path from the input to the output is clear, and the path to the exhaust is blocked. This corresponds to a Normally Open switch. When an Nswitch is actuated, the path from the input to the output closes, and the output is routed to the exhaust port. Pneumadyne makes a pushbutton 3-waywith all three ways threaded for 10-32 - it's their "Fully Ported" 300 series. It would work with this design - with some adjustment. The valve has 3 portson the bottom, and 2 & 3 located on the side of the valve body. The signal line (to the squib) would have to be attached to port 2, the check valve wouldhave to be screwed into the _side_ of the valve at port 3 and the port on the bottom of the valve body (1) would act as the exhaust pathway when youpressed the button. One thing you will find with the pushbutton valves is that they require more force to actuate. The toggle valves typically actuate with6-10 oz of force. The pushbuttons can require 30 to 50 oz to actuate.

    wangxiao says: Mar 30, 2009. 12:56 AM REPI see. In that case, perhaps the toggle valve would be best. I am curious, however--suppose I have a situation where it's impractical or impossible fothe talent to trigger the effect (ie, 3+ consecutive hits, shots where their hands must be open and in-frame), is there a limit to the length of the signaline which would preclude the possibility of an assistant triggering the effect?

    Crosius says: Mar 30, 2009. 8:05 PM REPNot by much. My quick and dirty calculations suggest that adding 10 feet of line will increase the delay in the system by about a millisecond. Thperson flipping the switch is going to swamp that delay with the variation in their own reaction time. I'd be comfortable using anything under 50feet of line to control a squib - which would let you trigger the effect from far off camera.

    Crosius says: Mar 7, 2009. 1:01 PM REPA few people have had trouble attaching their air-pumps to these squibs, so I've added two pictures in step 4 showing two different ways of filling the squibwith a bike pump.

    kanzume says: Nov 2, 2008. 12:14 PM REP...great stuff! I saw this on another forum and found this here again -- but anyway that's not my point. So basically if I cut my costs down and use a 2 litrecoke bottle with the appropriate adaptors instead of the air chamber (which the coke bottle must be on the ground wi th longer tubing, and other stuff that coso much, I can reduce the cost... how much is this whole rig? and which store sell all of these stuff -- I don't want to buy over-the-net (I don't live in US so

    shipping is expensive) or go to 10000 stores to pick up all these parts... a hardware store doesn't sell all of them under 1 roof (or am i wrong?) -- and theyusually sell in bulks e.g. 20 valves (well, I can get shot 20 times in 1 go but that, again, raises the costs).

    Crosius says: Nov 2, 2008. 12:57 PM REPI'd be surprised if any general hardware store carried these parts. They're even smaller than the parts that you'd use in a home-shop air-tool system.These parts are classified as "miniature" by the pneumatic industry.

    I'd suggest looking for a local pneumatic/hydraulic supply shop (one that caters to the manufacturing or tooling industry) that carries Clippard,Pneumadyne, Beswick, ASCO or Parker valves if you want one-stop shopping. All these companies make 10-32 or M5 fi ttings and valves withcomparable features to the Clippard parts I refer to in this instructable.

    If you're considering a two-litre pop-bottle as an air chamber, I highly recommend this tutorial by Indy Mogul on how to make a "Blood Shooter" - it'sentirely made with parts you canget at a hardware store.

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    kanzume says: Nov 3, 2008. 10:51 AM REPYes, I saw that -- that's where I got the coke bott le idea from, but it can't be actor-triggered. This is why I want to combine yours and Indymogul'stogether...

    Crosius says: Nov 3, 2008. 3:43 PM REPHmm. So what you really need is a remotely actuated valve to replace the indy-mogul "Blood Shooter's" globe-valve. The Quick-Exhaust myproject uses might be a little small for using a pop-bottle as an air reservoir - although you can probably still use the trigger and signal line, you'dprobably want a QEV with larger ways and larger threads for the bottle and hose. Something like Clippard's JEV-F2M4 would be a lot easier toscrew into a bottle cap, with a 2CP2 (1/6 barb to 1/8 NPT fitting) screwed into the inlet to attach the control line and maybe something like a12844 screwed into the outlet so you could use some inexpensive 1/4" ID vinyl tubing to hold your stage blood.

    kanzume says:Nov 5, 2008. 4:01 AM REP

    yeah, I liked yours more because it can be actor-triggered with a flip switch. Do you think you can build 1 like that and make a tutorial with thleast number of parts required?

    Crosius says: Nov 6, 2008. 3:32 PM REPI'll put it in the queue as a potential project.

    kanzume says: Nov 7, 2008. 4:32 AM REPalright, I hope you'll build it. looking forward to it :) cheers

    evanwehrer says: Oct 31, 2008. 7:43 AM REPHow much would all of this cost and can it be adapted to shoot BB's?

    Crosius says: Oct 31, 2008. 3:52 PM REPIf you price out everything on the Clippard online store and buy in multiples of 5, you can get the unit price down to around $50 US per squib. Compareto actual (ie. pyro) squibs used in movies, this is a very decent price. Compared to some other, more improvisational solutions, $50 might not seem sowonderful.

    While you can modify anything that generates a pulse of compressed air to shoot BBs, this device was designed to have low muzzle energy andprobably doesn't represent an optimal starting point for such re-design. If you're thinking in terms of a scale-RC "naval combat" cannon, you might beable to use this to generate pulses of air for that application, if you were to actuate the 3-way with a servo.

    I should also point out that none of these parts (which are only rated for 250 psig) are suitable for use with common BB propellants such as unregulatecarbon dioxide, which varies from 400 to 1200 psig. You'd certainly damage the seals in most of the valves, and you'd risk rupturing the pressure vesse

    evanwehrer says: Nov 1, 2008. 4:28 PM REPI just planned on making a little airsoft gun and power it with compressed air, not co2, i couldn't even begin to figure out how to get it in.

    Basta says: Mar 21, 2008. 9:28 PM REPExcellent! A friends and I are working on a movie that requires one of these effects (just one--dramatic scene). This is what I've been looking for, I'll give it try!

    royalestel says: Nov 24, 2007. 10:43 AM REPFavorited!

    ThreeWestCreative says: Nov 6, 2007. 8:39 AM REPGood Job! This looks promising. I'll look into using this for my next gore film.

    Crosius says: Nov 7, 2007. 3:40 PM REPThanks. I tacked a video on to the last step so you can get an idea of the energy available in the effect.

    ThreeWestCreative says: Nov 8, 2007. 1:28 AM REPThat's perfect for doing squibs I think. It's powerful and uses no explosives. Thanks for adding the movie.

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