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Page 1: Points of pain Campus vs backbone Bill St. Arnaud bill.st.arnaud@canarie.ca

Points of pain Campus vs backbone

Bill St. Arnaud [email protected]

Page 2: Points of pain Campus vs backbone Bill St. Arnaud bill.st.arnaud@canarie.ca

Backbone operator perspective

> NB: CANARIE operates a very small IP backbone – Our major focus is operating a “substrate” network to support a number of

virtual lighpath networks – APNs

> Many of our departments and users on campuses have multiple independent connections to CA*net 4 and other networks– Medical-health-HIPAA– Physics– Astronomy– Various Grids – backplane and frontplane connection– Distributed campus networks

> We are seeing many APNs dedicated to specific community of interests which extend from user desktop to desktop right across the country

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Canada HEPnet APN

UoToronto PhysicsTier 2

UoVictoria PhysicsTier 2

TRIUMFTier 1

CERNTier 0

Amsterdam

New York

Chicago

Toronto

Vancouver

Victoria

FERMITier 1

BrookhavenTier 1

UBC Physics

UA Physics

UoT Physics

Carleton Physics

UdM Physics

CA*net 4

Edmonton

Ottawa

Geneav

10G Lightpath WS

TRIUMFAPN

UoTAPN

UoVAPN

1G Interface WS

5G Interface WS

External links or APNs

Note: Typical View on TRIUMF UCLP GUI

Montreal

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RAL LHC Tier 1 Centre

Geant / SuperJanet4 / TVN Access (2*1Gbits/s)

NetscreenFirewall

8Gb/s

UKLIGHT(2*1Gbits/s) “Lightpath” to

CERN via NetherLight

Router A

Router C

Router B

UKLight AccessRouter

RAL Site

Site AccessRouter

R-PoP Sites

Source: Robin TaskerNetworks and CommunicationsCCLRC

Parallel Campus Production & Research Networks- Rutherford

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Production & Research Networks at UCL

Source: Andrew Kerl UCL

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Points of pain- RONs and NOCs

> Many of our users have direct optical connection to the backbone with NICs using long range GBICs

> RONs and campuses want to “manage” the link and insert devices in the middle of the all optical link which makes it less reliable and poorer throughput

> First point of contact is not local IT dept> Certificate authority and authorizing server is often off

campus for many campus research groups– HIPAA– Grids – APNs

> Federations good idea – but really hard to implement

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Virtual CIO and virtual NOC

> Increasingly networks and security issues are neither geographical or local domain– i.e. Jacob Forum

> Outside organizations are setting standards within “your” network– In fact it may be no longer “yours”

> CERN NOC is setting standards on OS, IdM, routing, network connectivity at campuses

> Look at Skype security standards– Skype sits above the “network”

> The “old network” is becoming increasing irrelevant > The pervasive Internet is coming because of SOA & Mashups

– Google, Skype , Cisco IPICS, SOA etc