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Welcome to our program on envy.

When one chants or discusses thetr anscendental activit ies of the Lord, he

immediately becomes non-envious. In this

material wor ld everyone is envious of

everyone else, but by vibrat ing or

discussing the holy name of the Lord, one

becomes non-envi ous and devoid of

material hankering. Because of our envy

for the Supreme Personal ity of Godhead,

we have become envious of all other living

ent ities. When we are no l onger envious of

the Supreme Personal ity of Godhead, there

wil l be real peace, uni ty and f raterni ty in

human society

rmad-Bhgavatam 4.30.36


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To envy another is to feel il l wi l l, jealousy,

or discontent at the person s possession ofsomething that one keenly desires to have

or achieve for oneself. Websters

Dictionary

In electronically

researching Srila Prabhupadas body of

work, his books, letters, conversati ons, and

lectures, it was interesti ng to f ind that the

word envy appears over two thousand

times. Primar ily envy is used to describe

pseudo devotees, who have not pur if ied

themselves by the devoti onal process as

directed by Rupa Goswami.


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Once in 1974 in Calcutta when I sit ting

alone with Sr il a Prabhupada in his room, I

asked how long does it take to become

Kr ishna conscious. Sr ila Prabhupada

replied that at least one lifetime is requir ed,

although he also quoted examples from

Srimad Bhagavatam and Chaitanya

Charit amri ta of great personali ties who

became delivered instantaneously, such as

Jagai and M adhai and A jamil a. Sril aPrabhupada fur ther explained that

deliverance is dependent upon purity of

heart and sincer ity. I f one chants H are

Kr ishna, and a change of heart does not

take place, Srila Prabhupada explained,

there is lit tl e use of chant ing.


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As Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu declared

in his vital teachings, one can chant theholy name only with a humble state of

mind.I have witnessed so much discord andpolitics in our society of devotees andconclude that the cause is envy due toimpure heart. When harmony, love,

trust, and cooperation prevail, it isunderstood that these are the fruits ofpure Krishna consciousness. Such a stateof pure devotional service is achieved by

fully surrendering to guru and toKrishna.

- Gargamuni dasa


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When I started this movement, Iwanted to bring some men fromIndia. The problem was that inIndia the men who joined the

Gaudiya Math mission were not

very educated. So I declined tobring them in the Westerncountries and by the grace of

Krsna I was able to train the localmen. And thus gradually, things

became successful.

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Damodara Maharaja is adangerous man. Remain very

cautious with him. He is alwayscausing difficulty.

====== REF. Letter to: Jayapataka --Hyderabad 4 December, 1976


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You have written to say in yourletter under reply that you wantto join first with me then talk

with Sripada Maharaja aboutcooperation otherwise yourjourney to this country may be

cancelled by him. I could notfollow the import of this

proposal. Do you think that

cooperation with me prior toyour joining me here is not

possible? Why this mentality. Isit my private business? Srila

Prabhupada wanted to constructsome temples in the Foreign

countries as preaching centres ofthe message of Srila Rupa

Raghunatha and I am trying todo this in this part of the world.

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The money is ready and theopportunity is open. If by seeingthe Finance Minister this workcan be facilitated why should wewait for time so that you cannottalk with your Guru maharaj

about any cooperation becauseyou afraid of your journey heremay be cancelled. Please do not

think in that way. Takeeverything as Srila Prabhupada'swork and try to cooperate in that

spirit. The Gaudiya Mathinstitution has failed. . . .

====== REF. Letter to: MangalaniloyBrahmacari -- New York 23 June, 1966


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Unfortunately the present workersin the Bombay Gaudiya Math are

not at all competent to do anytangible work. They are staying

there for the last 35 years, butthey have not done any appreciable

work. it is simply a place`khabadavar addakhama.'' SrilaPrabhupada used this word manytimes in connection with inactive

centers. And when one was toomuch engaged in buildings, He

always warned that our business isnot for becoming mason workers,or becoming carpenters, neither to

create a place for eating and

sleeping. So these people arecollecting funds and eating andsleeping. The reason is that they

deviated from the disciplicsuccession from Srila Prabhupada.

====== REF. Letter to: Jagannatham Prabhu -- Montreal 22 June, 1968


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The thing is, what for you willcontact this Vinode Vani dasi?*What kind of help do you want

from them? They are already notcooperating. The history of this

Vani dasi is that she is an oldlady, and has a house and has

hung a sign, Gaudiya Math, butthat is all.

====== REF. Letter to: Gurudasa -- Los

Angeles 14 December, 1968


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Regarding the 92 section caseagainst the Gaudiya Math, I

don't think there is anypossibility of compromise. But

the Baghbazar party and

Mayapur party have unlawfullyusurped the missionaryinstitution of Srila Prabhupada,and whenever they will talk of acompromise, it means another

complication.

====== REF. Letter to: Narayana Maharaja --Tittenhurst 30 September, 1969


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Regarding the Gaudiya Mathbooks being circulated there,who is distributing? Who issending these books? The

Gaudiya Math does not sell ourbooks, why we should sell their

books. Who has introduced thesebooks? Let me know. Thesebooks should not at all be

circulated in our Society. BhaktiVilas Tirtha is very much

antagonistic to our society andhe has no clear conception of

devotional service. He iscontaminated. Anyway,

====== REF. Letter to: Sukadeva -- NewDelhi 14 November, 1973


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But Dr. Kapoor can expose

Purusottam goswami about hisdeal with the late Puri Goswamiof the Gaudiya Math. If the

mystery of his acquiring 50,000rupees of books from Puri isexposed then his so called

leadership will come to an end.He knows better than I and youcan ask him about Purusottam

Goswami's acquiring books fromPuri--which is a mystery not yet

disclosed, but every Gaudiya

mission man knows the incident.

====== REF. Letter to: Gurudasa --Hyderabad 24 April, 1974


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The Gaudiya Math institutionhas become smashed, at least

stopped its program of preaching

work on account of personalambitions.

====== REF. Letter to: Karandhara: --

Mayapur 8 October, 1974


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Regarding, Bon Maharaja, I amactually authority accepted by

authority. In the Caitanya

Caritamrta it is said, krsna saktivina nahe nama pracar. So, nowthe Hare Krishna movement is

world known, and learnedscholars, etc. give plaudits to meas Professor Judah has. So, then

why I am not authority? Nobodysays Bon Swami has done it, or

Vivekananda, or any otherswami. There are so many yogisand swamis coming, but nobodyis giving credit to them, they are

giving the credit to me. So, why Iam not an authority? If Krishnaaccepts me as authority, then

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Besides that, in 1933, Bon wasgiven the first chance to preach

Lord Caitanya's movement inLondon. He remained thereabout four years and not a single

person could be converted tobecome a Vaisnava and he wasreceiving regularly 700rs. per

month for his expenditure, beingsupported by the whole GaudiyaMath institution, and still, as he

could not do anythingappreciable, he was called backby Guru Maharaja. Then where

is his authority? Our authoritycomes from Parampara system. Ifthe Guru was not satisfied withhim and called him back, and

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He gave up connection withGaudiya Math and started his

own institution, then how hebecomes authority? And in spiteof all these things, if he is still

authority by his own imagination,then people should ask him whathe has been doing for the last 40

years, about the objective ofGaudiya Vaisnavism. Even if hethinks that he has done, certainlyhe has not done better than me.

Under the circumstances,accepting him as an authority, I

am greater and better authoritythan him. So, all Vaisnavas areauthorities to preach Krishna

Consciousness, but still, there aredegrees of authorities.



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On the whole, if his motive is tosupress me and that is why hehas come here, how we canreceive him? He has alreadygiven one Professor a wrong

impression. He may be treated asa guest, if he comes to our

center, give him prasadam, honorhim as an elder Vaisnava, but hecannot speak or lecture. If hewants to lecture, you can tell

him that there is already anotherspeaker scheduled. That's all.

====== REF. Letter to: Satsvarupa --Honolulu 4 June, 1975


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Why is there this politics? Thisis not good. If politics come, then

the preaching will be stopped.That is the difficulty. As soon as

politics come, everything isspoiled. In the Gaudiya Math the

politics is still going on. MyGuru Maharaja left in 1936, andnow it is 1976, so after 40 yearsthe litigation is still going on. Do

not come to this.

====== REF. Letter to: Gurukrpa: -- Bombay30 September, 1975


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I'm very much obliged to you thatyou write to say, It is clear tome that you are great powerful

Acarya in the Vaisnava world atpresent.'' Sometimes SridharaMaharaja also says like that.

====== REF. Letter to: B.S. BodhayanaMaharaja -- Vrindaban 9 November, 1976


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Regarding the two men who havecome to us from Gaudiya Math,for the time being we should try

not to give shelter to suchpersons unless they are tested.

====== REF. Letter to: Jayapataka --Hyderabad 4 December, 1976


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Harikea: The Gauya Math?Indian man (1): Even they cantworship as we are worshiping.Prabhupda: How they can

worship? The worship is done bydevotee. Unless you create

devotee, where is the question ofworshiping? Without devotee itis idol worship. There is no life.And without life, how can you

pull on artificially? Aprasya hidehasya mandanam loka-

ra janam

====== REF. Morning Walk -- November 30,1975, Delhi


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Prabhupda: No, I never stressedon temple. I was engaged in

publishing the Back to Godhead.Whatever I could do, I did it

because I took it very seriously thathe is very sorry that these things

were not done. He said that Therewill be fire in this Gaudiya Math.gun jvlbe, he said. Amari taci

loka kichui boi kakrayebo (?): If I

can, I shall sell these marbles ofthis temple and convert them intobooks. That was his ambition. Hestarted a very nice press and this

Tirtha Maharaja sold it.Jayatrtha: Sold it?

Prabhupda: Yes.Bhagavn: The press.Prabhupda: Hes not representingGuru.... Better lets have money

for fight in the court.

====== REF. Room Conversation -- July 26,1976, London


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There are similarly men also.Unnecessarily they are envious,

offensive, unnecessary. They cannottolerate others opulence. Just like

our Godbrothers. They are envious.What I have done to them? I amdoing my business, trying to serve myGuru Mahrja. But they are enviousbecause I am so opulent. I have got so

much fame, so many influence, somuch influence all over the world.

Everyone is praising me about... Thatis ignorance. And this is regrettable

because they are posing themselves asVaiava. Ordinary man can do that,but they are dressing like Vaiava,and they are so envious. That Trtha

Mahrja, unnecessarily he wasenvious, whole life fighting, fighting,fighting in the court and died. Simply

planning

====== REF. Room Conversation -- January 8,1977, Bombay


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Prabhupda: These are weapons.That was the only endeavor, howlegally he could occupy the bricks

and stones of Gauya Math.

Thats all. He had no otherambition. How to push on

Caitanya Mahprabhus mission,how to push on Guru

Mahrjas... He had no such. Itwas simply show. But real

purpose was how to occupy, howto take the whole property.

Business.Rmevara: And none of theother Godbrothers had strong

preaching spirits.Prabhupda: Yes. They also,when they saw that This man islegally taking everything. Gauya

sannyss, we cannot go home.



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We must have some shelter. Nospirit of pushing on.

Rmevara: Even by yourexample they have not learnedanything.

Prabhupda: No, my... Of course,I did not attempt in the

beginning. I started my activities

when I was seventy years old. Sothey thought, This man isghastha. He is embarassed with

family life. What hell do?(laughs) That was their

impression. But I never neglected.

Guru Mahrja told me. I wassimply thinking, How to do it?How to do it? I thought, Letme become a rich businessman.The money will be required.



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That was my thought. But GuruMahrja was asking me, You

give up this. Ill give youmoney. That I could notunderstand. I was planning. Myplan was not wrong. But I wasthinking The money required,

so let me earn some money.

Then I shall begin. And GuruMahrja said, You give up thismoney-earning endeavor. Youcome completely. Ill give you

money. I can understand now.But my desire was there.

Therefore he guided me. So Iwas... In 1936 or 35 in Bombay,after installation of Deity, soIwas ghasthaI helped them to

collect some money.



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All my Godbrothers applaudedand recommended to Guru

Mahrja that Abhay Babu is soinfluential. Why he lives outsidethe temple? He can become thetemple commander and managethis Bombay temple. Why he isliving outside? Mean Guru

Mahrja may ask him. So Iwas... From this Allahabad I wasgoing to Bombay. I had one smalloffice there. So after hearing, hesaid, It is better that he is livinglittle away from your Matha. And

when time will rise, hell doeverything. He hasnt got to beadvised. I could not understandwhy he said like that. That meanshe was so kind that he expected

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That was my asset, his blessing.And I was thinking that His,

this mission must be done verynicely. Although I was notcapable to do anything, I was

thinking like that. So desire wasthere and maybe blessing was

there. Yes. There was no question

of qualification.Rmevara: But still, after ten

years the Gauya Math still hasnot learned.

Prabhupda: Hm? They cannot.They... Those who are intelligent,

they are making something,rdhara Mahrja and others.But this man was envious, thisTrtha Mahrja, because...



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He advertised that he is the onlyfavorite student ofBhaktisiddhnta Sarasvat.

(laughs) But spiritually he wasempty. Materially he was capable,

how to manage things. But

spiritually he was zero. ThatPrabhupda also knew andeveryone knows. He had no

spiritual understanding.Materially he helped GuruMahrja how to organize.

Therefore he liked him, thatThis man is expert manager.

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Prabhupda: Yes. Our TrthaMahrja accusing me that I have

got two crores of rupees fromAmerican government to start this

movement. (laughs) Even myGodbrother says, what to speak ofothers. Nobody is living such nice

house, all of my Godbrothers.(laughs)

Tamla Ka: None of them have

done that.Prabhupda: They were unable.Neither they have got idea ofaristocratically, how to live

aristocratically. You wont find inany one of my Godbrothers a place

like this. This is aristocratic. Thisis Indian aristocracy. Table-chair is

not aristocratic. This is morecomfortable. And cheap also

====== REF. Conversation on Roof --

February 14, 1977, Mypura


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Prabhupda: He cannot make anycomment. These are facts. Twoparties there were. One party, to

use guru as their instrument forself-aggrandizement, and anotherparty left guru. So both of themare offenders. This Kunja Babu,this Trtha Mahrjas party, hewanted to enjoy senses through

guru. And the Bagh Bazaar party,they left.

Tamla Ka: Vsudeva.Prabhupda: So both of them are

severe offenders.

Tamla Ka: What aboutrdhara Mahrja?Prabhupda: rdhara Mahrjabelonged to the Bagh Bazaarparty. And I was living aloof.



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My Guru Mahrja approved. Hesaid, It is better that he is aloof

from them.Tamla Ka: He could

understand that his disciples werenot...

Prabhupda: No, he was verysorry. At the last stage he was

disgusted.

====== REF. Room Conversation -- April 22,1977, Bombay


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Tamla Ka: And he waslecturing on Caitanya-caritmta.I think you mentioned that oneof your Godbrothers once said to

you, You really believe that

there is such a place, Kaloka,Vaikuhaloka? He was

himself...Prabhupda: Bon Mahrja did

not believe.

====== REF. Conversation with VedicAstronomer -- April 30, 1977, Bombay


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Prabhupda: And in myhoroscope there was written

there, After seventieth year this

man will go outside India andestablish so many temples.Tamla Ka: Really?Prabhupda: I could not

understand. What is this, that Ihave to go outside India? That is

not... And Guru Mahrjaforetold. He told myGodbrothers, rdhara Mahrjaand others, that Hell do the

needful when time comes.Nobody requires to help him.

He told in 1935. And after all,this was true(?). Guru Mahrjatold. And in the beginning, firstsight, he told, You have to do

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Tamla Ka: No one helpedyou. Thats a fact. You asked

that...Prabhupda: Who?

Tamla Ka: ...TrthaMahrja for some help, hedidnt help at all. He wouldnt

even give a little place.Prabhupda: Nobody. Everyone

admits.

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Prabhupda: ...opposition of myconstructing a temple in

Mypura.Tamla Ka: From the verybeginning. First you asked forland. That was refused. Thenyou sent money, but for three

yearsnothing. I think you sent

money twice.Prabhupda: So many thingsalso.

Tamla Ka: Then we wereeven stopped by the elements,when we went... You took us,

and we went and stayed atDevnanda Gauya Maha. But

the rain suddenly came sostrongly, (Prabhupda chuckles)

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Prabhupda: Could not cross to

the other side.Tamla Ka: No. Then yousaid, Perhaps Ka wants us toestablish in Vndvana and not

Mypura. So you were going tosend me to see this Madan

Mohan to try to negotiate.Prabhupda: Anyway, forget the

past. Push forward.Tamla Ka: I think you oncesaid that sometimes Ka teststo see how sincerely the devotee

is determined.Prabhupda: Ka not only tests

but punishes those who arecriminals.



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Tamla Ka: Criminals.Prabhupda: Like Ka punishedDurvs Muni. He was criminal

against Ambara Mahrja.

Ka never tolerates. Vaiavamay tolerate. Ka will never

tolerate.Room Conversation

====== REF. Room Conversation -- June 18,

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With this aim in view I tried mygodbrothers to join together for

this preaching work in the foreigncountries by combined force. I

tried first Kesava Maharaja, thenBon Maharaja and then Tirtha

Maharaja but I have failed to getany cooperation from either of

them till now and therefore whenI was just arranging to go back to

India to try for myself

====== REF. Letter to: MangalaniloyBrahmacari -- New York 16 May, 1966


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So practically there is nodifference of opinion in our

missionary activities, especially

because we all are derivinginspiration from His DivineGrace Prabhupada Srila

Bhaktisiddhanta SarasvatiGoswami Maharaja. I think all ofour Godbrothers are doing the

same missionary activitieswithout a doubt, but still theregrettable fact is we are doing allseparately, not in conjunction. Ihave also read specifically yourarticles on the matter of acaryas,

wherein on the 14th Paragraph Isee the acharya shall be entitled

to nominate in writing hissuccessive acharya.



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But we do not find any recordwhere our Srila Prabhupada

nominated any acharya after Him.Different persons have

interpreted on this point, andevery one of our Godbrothers are

acting as acharya, so this is acontroversial point which I do notwish to enter into while we are

proposing for cooperation

====== REF. Letter to: Swami B. S. BhagavataMaharaja -- Los Angeles 21 August, 1969


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The difficulty is sometimes thingsare interpreted in a mannerdovetailing one's own sensegratification. I have got this

personal experience in my GuruMaharaja's institution. Different

Godbrothers took the words ofGuru Maharaja in differentinterpretations for sense

gratification and the wholemission disrupted. This is stillgoing on for the last 40 years

without any proper settlemen====== REF. Letter to: Tamala Krsna --Tittenhurst 18 October, 1969


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No, we should take all risks forKrsna. This mentality to chant in

a solitary place without anyresponsibility of preaching work

is not approved by

Bhaktisiddhanta SarasvatiMaharaja. One of our

Godbrothers was doing like thatand my Spiritual Master was not

very satisfied with him.

====== REF. Letter to: Hamsaduta -- LosAngeles 22 June, 1970


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It is now clear that myGodbrothers take objection of mybeing called as Prabhupada and on

this point they wanted to poisonthe whole Society--that is nowclear. But how it was

manipulated--that is a mystery.

====== REF. Letter to: Rupanuga -- Calcutta25 September, 1970


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You are right about SridharaMaharaja's genuineness. But in

my opinion he is the best of thelot. He is my old friend, at least

he executes the regulativeprinciples of devotional service. I

do not wish to discuss aboutactivities of my Godbrothers but

it is a fact they have no life forpreaching work. All are satisfiedwith a place for residence in thename of a temple, they engagedisciples to get foodstuff by

transcendental devices and eatand sleep. They have no idea or

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My Guru Maharaja used tolament many times for this

reason and he thought if one manat least had understood the

principle of preaching then hismission would achieve success.In the latter days of my Guru

Maharaja he was very disgusted.Actually, he left this world

earlier, otherwise he would havecontinued to live for more years.Still he requested his disciples toform a strong Governing body

for preaching the cult ofCaitanya Mahaprabhu. He neverrecommended anyone to beacarya of the Gaudiya Math.



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But Sridhara Maharaja is

responsible for disobeying thisorder of Guru Maharaja, and heand others who are already deadunnecessarily thought that there

must be one acarya. If GuruMaharaja could have seen

someone who was qualified atthat time to be acarya he wouldhave mentioned. Because on thenight before he passed away hetalked of so many things, but

never mentioned an acarya. His

idea was acarya was not to benominated amongst the governingbody. He said openly you make aGBC and conduct the mission.



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So his idea was amongst themembers of GBC who wouldcome out successful and self

effulgent acarya would beautomatically selected. So

Sridhara Maharaja and his twoassociate gentlemen

unauthorizedly selected oneacarya and later it proved afailure. The result is now

everyone is claiming to be acaryaeven though they may be kanisthaadhikari with no ability to preach.In some of the camps the acaryais being changed three times ayear. Therefore we may not

commit the same mistake in ourISKCON camp. Actually amongst

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So it is better not to mix with myGodbrothers very intimately

because instead of inspiring ourstudents and disciples they maysometimes pollute them. This

attempt was made previously bythem, especially Madhava

Maharaja and Tirtha Maharaja

and Bon Maharaja but somehowor other I saved the situation.This is going on. We shall be verycareful about them and not mix

with them. This is my instructionto you all. They cannot help us in

our movement, but they are verycompetent to harm our naturalprogress. So we must be very

careful about them.



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I can understand this cunning

Purusottama das has takenadvantage of your simplicity. Soany one of my godbrothers cannot

help me in this way of bookwriting because they are

unfortunate in the matter of

preaching work. They are simplytrying to infiltrate our society toso something harmful by theirattempt. So please do not haveany correspondence with thisPurusottama or any of my

godbrothers, so-called. And donot do anything without

consulting me.



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You can inform this instruction toeveryone and send back to me thesheets of corrections sent to you

by Purusottama.

I was very much anxious to knowhow Purusottama entered in ourcamp. Now the matter is clear. Becareful for further dealings with

such men.============ REF. Letter to:

Karunasindhu -- Bombay 9November, 1975


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So I have now issued orders thatall my disciples should avoid all ofmy godbrothers. They should nothave any dealings with them noreven correspondence, nor should

they give them any of my booksor should they purchase any oftheir books, neither should youvisit any of their temples. Please

avoid them.

====== REF. Letter to: Visvakarma -- Bombay9 November, 1975


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My Guru Maharaja very muchliked my writing and he used toshow others in my absence Justsee how nicely he has written,how he has appreciated.'' He

encouraged me, and my

Godbrothers, they also like mywriting. After I wrote that poem

for Vyasa Puja of my GuruMaharaja they used to call me

Poet.

====== REF. Letter to: Ramesvara Prabhu --Vrindaban 3 December, 1975


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Although a pure devotee maycriticize those who obstruct the

Lords mission, such criticism isnever personally motivated nor isit ever based on enviousness. Anadvanced devotee of the Lord maychastise his followers or criticizethe demoniac, but only to carry

out the mission of the SupremeLord and never out of personalenmity or enviousness. For onewho completely gives up the

material concept of life there is nopossibility of entering again onto

the path of birth and death.SB 11.16.43

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Madhudvia: You were talkingabout enviousness, rla

Prabhupda. And we see that this

even sometimes pervades in ourown society.

Prabhupda: Because you have,you are not yet perfect. That

means. You are not yet perfect.You are trying to be perfect. Now

be perfect.Madhudvia: Is there a way, is

there a specific way to counteractthis bad quality of enviousness?Prabhupda: And yes, just chant

Hare Ka. Cleanse your mind.All dirty things will go. Becauseyou neglect to chant regularly,

therefore the dirty things remain.

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Without Kas special power ofattorney, nobody can preach Hisname. Caitanya-caritmta. So

these rascals, Godbrothers, theyare envious that... What he haswritten? Bon Mahrja. Just seewhat kind of men they are. They

are not even ordinary humanbeing. They are envious of me,

and what to speak of make ajudgment by estimation? Theyreenvious. Enviousness is

immediately disqualification ofVaiava, immediate. He is not a

human being. Paramo

nirmatsar sat [SB 1.1.2].This Bhgavatam is meant for the

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Why a Vaiava should be

envious for anyone? Everyone isworking according to his karma.He is trying to rectify him, that

Be out of these clutches ofkarma. You come to bhakti. Whyhe should be envious? V ch-

kalpatarubhya ca kp-sindhubhya eva ca. A Vaiavashould be like ocean of mercy toreclaim the fallen souls. That is

Vaiavas qualification. SoVaiava should be envious? Just

see. So these persons, they arenot even human being, what to

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Vaiava cannot be envious.Vaiava should be: Oh, my

Lords name is being broadcast.He is getting, giving so much

service to make Ka known.That man has appreciated, that

All these spiritual leaders, theyare deriding. You are the onlyman... You are... It enthuses us,

give us more encouragement, thatyou are keeping intact, love of

Ka. This is an appreciation.

Why he should be envious?====== REF. Room Conversation withReporter of The Star -- October 16, 1975,

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Prabhupda: A devotee is neverenvious of another devotee. He is

not a devotee. Tad-adhneu

maitr. One who is devotee, wehave to make friendship withthem. How we can hate them?

====== REF. Garden Conversation -- June 27,1976, New Vrindaban

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Transcendental competition is nice,but it should not come to the point

of making us lose our Krishnaconsciousness. When you have

these feelings, do not mistake it forenviousness, but take it to be anindirect appreciation of the servicedone by your other Godbrothers.This is spiritual. In the material

world, when someone surpasses us

in some way we become angry andplan how to stop him, but in thespiritual world when someone doessome better service we think `Oh,he has done so nicely. Let me helphim to execute his service.'' So weshould always endeavor to keep thisattitude, and serve Lord Krishna to

the best of our ability. That willmake one advance in spiritual life.

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Unfortunately we are surroundedby neophyte Godbrothers who donot appreciate the extraordinary

activities of spreading Kaconsciousness all over the world.They simply try to bring us totheir platform, and they try to

criticize us in every respect. Wevery much regret their naive

activities and poor fund ofknowledge. An empoweredperson who is actually engaged in

the confidential service of theLord should not be treated as anordinary human being, for it is

stated that unless one isempowered by Ka, one cannotspread the Ka consciousnessmovement all over the world.

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But there is a propaganda againstme. Even amongst my

Godbrothers, they are making...

Because they cannot do it, so findout some fault.

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Just like one of our Godbrothers,hes thinking that This

institution was started by me andBhaktisiddhnta Sarasvatas

partners. Now the senior partneris dead. Therefore I am the sole

proprietor. Who are theseGodbrothers? Let them go

away. So this is my, the samemy Dhtarra was thinking

====== REF. rmad-Bhgavatam 1.8.24 --Mypura, October 4, 1974

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Some of my Godbrothers, theycriticize like that, that I am

offering sannysa to the mlecchas,yavanas. This is wrong idea. This

is nrak-buddhi. Actually, aVaiava is above thisvarrama-dharma. But we dont

claim that we have becomeperfect Vaiava. We are not soimpudent. We want to remain

under the Vaiava. Under theVaiava. Otherwise Vaiavameans... In Caitanya-caritmta

youll find the Vaiava isparamahasa. Vaiava has nosaffron cloth. Vaiava is white

cloth because Vaiava isparamahasa, above. But wedont claim the position of

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We want to remain servant of

Vaiava. Therefore sannysaorder is below the position ofVaiava. Sannysa order meansstill in the material classification.

But this Vaiava is paramonirmatsar satm. Dharma

projjhita-kaitavo tra paramonirmat... [SB 1.1.2]. This

Vaiavism is meant for paramonirmatsarm, paramahasa. Sa

gun samattyaitn brahma-bhyya kalpate [Bg. 14.26].

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Revatnandana: rla Prabhupda,hearing(?) from Hasadtasquestion, sometimes we might

experience that our Godbrothershave fallen away, and when theyhave fallen away they really fallenand lost their spirit and they fall

away.Prabhupda: Best thing is that

after this meeting you shouldstand together and fall down,Prabhu, please excuse me.

Yamun: Oh, jaya.Prabhupda: Yes. Is that all right?Revatnandana: What is going to

happen to these who are left andthey are..., commit offenses

against you?Prabhupda: Eh?


Revatnandana: Theyhaveleftand


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Revatnandana: They have left andyet they are committing offensesagainst you and against Ka

because they have become

deranged.Prabhupda: Therefore the fallingdown, obeisances, is there. If there

is any offense, by offeringobeisances it is excused.

Yamun: All glories to Prabhupda.

Prabhupda: And amongst yourselfyou should also offer obeisances,Prabhu, please excuse this

offense.Yamun: And then take remedial

measures.Prabhupda: Then... Then finished.

That is system. One now...Everyone should fall down. What is

that? (end)rmad-Bhgavatam 6.1.6

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This propensity we should alwaysremember that I shall be greaterthan him, I shall overlord him.

Just like my Godbrothers. Thepropensity is that Oh, he hasbecome greater than us, they arevery envious. Their propensity isto become but they could not,

they are therefore envious. This

is materialism. There is nospiritual sense here. In thematerial..., spiritual world, if

somebody is greater in service,others, they appreciate, How

great he is, how he has advanced

in Kas service. We could notdo it, the Rdhrs spirit.

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His (her) spirit is like that. If

anyone, She finds a nice devoteeof Ka, She immediately

recommends to Ka, How nicethis devotee. He can render better

service than Me. Please accepthim. This is spiritualism. This isspiritualism. Who can give betterservice than Rdhr? She is so

great that She is captivatingKa. Ka captivates Madana,Cupid. But Rdhrcaptivates

Ka. How great She is====== REF. rmad-Bhgavatam 7.7.28, 32-35-- Mombassa, September 11, 1971

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Prabhupda: But sometimes mygodbrother criticizes that I amsannys, I am taking part in

marriage. So I have got very good

difficulties. Here, when I come toIndia, they say that I am spoilingHindu system of religion. Andwhen I go there, the Christiansays that You are the greatestenemy. (laughter) This is my

position. You see. If I go ahead,then... And if I go behind, then...So what can be done? I have to

execute my duty. I am notencouraged by the government,by my godbrothers, and still I

have to do this duty. What can bedone? So, so far I am concerned Iknow by getting them married I

am benefited

====== REF. The Nectar of Devotion --

Vndvana, October 16, 1972


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Advaita crya is the typicalexample how to become crya.

All are our cryas, r-ka-caitanya prabhu-nitynanda, r-advaita gaddhara rvsdi-gaura-

bhakta-vnda. All of them arecryas because they are

following the crya, supremecrya, Caitanya Mahprabhu.

Therefore they are crya. Evaparampar-prptam ima

rjarayo vidu [Bg. 4.2]. So wehave to follow the crya. Then,

when we are completely, cent percent follower of crya, then youcan also act as crya. This is theprocess. Dont become premature

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( p p g )

First of all follow the orders ofcrya, and you become mature.

Then it is better to becomecrya. Because we are interestedin preparing crya, but the

etiquette is, at least for the periodthe guru is present, one shouldnot become crya. Even if he is

complete he should not, becausethe etiquette is, if somebodycomes for becoming initiated, it isthe duty of such person to bringthat prospective candidate to hiscrya. Not that Now people are

coming to me, so I can becomecrya. That is avamanya.

Nvamanyeta karhicit. Donttransgress this etiquette.

Nvamanyeta.


Thatwill befalldown. Just like


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That will be falldown. Just likeduring the lifetime of our Guru

Mahrja, all our Godbrothers nowwho are acting as crya, they did

not do so. That is not etiquette.crya m vijnyt naavaman... That is insult. So if youinsult your crya, then you are

finished. Yasya prasdd bhagavat-prasdo yasya aprasdt na gatikuto pi **finished. If you

displease your crya, then you arefinished. Therefore it is said,

Caitanya Mahprabhu says to allthe cryas... Nitynanda Prabhu,

Advaita Prabhu and rvsdi-gaura-bhakta-vnda, they are allcarriers of orders of rCaitanyaMahprabhu. So try to follow thepath of crya process. Then life

will be successful.

====== REF. rCaitanya-caritmta, di-ll

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Then, 1958, I took sannysa, andthen I decided to take up theresponsibility of my Guru

Mahrja. I thought that Myother Godbrothers are trying, so I

am not capable to do it. They arebetter situated. But somehow orother, they could not do very

much, appreciative activities, inthis connection.

====== REF. His Divine Grace rla

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Just like I am pushing on thisKa consciousness movement, Iam doing so many things which

sometimes my Godbrothers out ofenvy criticize. But I know what isthe circumstances how to do it.

They do not know it. I know mybusiness. So that is their fault.Their own buddhi business, then

simply criticize How he isacting. Find out some fault.

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Prabhupda: That one of myimportant Godbrothers says. Hes

sincere. All others, they arerascals. He says that In theCaitanya-caritmta it is saidpthivte che yata nagardi

grma. So we were thinking thatthis is imagination, that Caitanya

Mahprabhus cult would bespread all over the world,everyone will chant. So you havedone it. So hes appreciating inthat way. But we are simply

thinking that it is not possible, it

is simply imagination. But thatyou have made it possible. Sothat is his appreciation.

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You see in the spiritual life also.My Godbrothers, they are tryingto suppress me. They are writing

articles that in foreign countriesthese things, Ratha-ytr isgoing on, so many temples have

been, but they will never mentionmy name. They have suppressed.

They want to They write

articles in such a way that BonMahrja has done so much andthey have done so much, and my

name is not mentioned. Thisspirit, Oh, this man is going sohigh. Therefore, Bhgavata says

nirmatsarm. You know themeaning of nirmatsarm?

Devotee (1): Without envy?

====== REF. Room Conversations --Vndvana, September 10, 1974, (new98)

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Prabhupda: At least historicallyit be proved. [break] ...cause ofenvy of my Godbrothers. I was

known. Although they knew that

Prabhupda liked me very much,because I am ghastha, I wasknown as pac-ghastha. Pac-

ghastha means a rotten ghastha.And now they say, This

ghastha has come out more than

us? What is this? [break]rdhara Mahrjas chief

disciple...?Bhavnanda: Gaura.

Prabhupda: He always used tosay to rdhara Mahrja that

You are seeing Abhay Babu asghastha, but he is more thanmany yogis. He was telling.

====== REF. Morning Walk -- February 3,1976, Mypura

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y g ,Godbrothers, an advanced devoteeis one who sees that Everybody is

serving Ka so nicely...

Prabhupda: Yes.treya i: ...so let me assistthem.

Prabhupda: Yes.treya i: Let me facilitate their

service.Prabhupda: Yes. Therefore we sayprabhu. Prabhu means You are mymaster. Please order me. What canI do for you? That should be the

attitude. [break] ...Guru dsaPrabhu, please come here and brushmy shoes. (laughter) What kind ofprabhu? He should say, Guru dsaPrabhu, can I brush your shoes?That is real Vaiava, not that

Guru dsa Prabhu, come here andbrush my shoes.

====== REF. Morning Walk -- March 25,

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Guru-kp: rla Prabhupda,what about, say, many of yourGodbrothers? They also have

disciples, and they also areproperly initiated by a proper

spiritual master, and they give theHare Ka mantra.

Prabhupda: The thing is thespirit, real service of preaching,

stopped. Formality is going on,but the real business.... CaitanyaMahprabhus movement meansmra j ya guru ha tra ei

dea [Cc. Madhya 7.128]. That isstopped. Do you follow? The

formalities is there, but the reallife of Caitanya Mahprabhus

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Otherwise why CaitanyaMahprabhu says, mra j ya

guru ha tra ei dea. Tra

means preaching. Yre dekha,tre kaha ka-upadea [Cc.Madhya 7.128]. And that is

stopped. They are satisfied if theycould construct one temple and

beg some rice from theneighborhood: Sir, we have gotsome temple, thats all. They aresatisfied. The spirit of preachingforwardpptpjata chilo,hari-nme uddhrilothat is

stopped. So by hari-nma, bychanting, by this way, to live littlepeacefully in the temple and eatand sleep, that much they have

got.


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If that is the success, that successthey have got. And this was

condemned by my GuruMahrja, that To earn somemoney by showing Deity in thetemple and eat and sleepbetter

you become a sweeper in thestreet and earn your honestlivelihood and live. This is

cheating. This was condemned.To construct a temple.... Just like

the Vndvana Gosvms aredoing. They thought that This is

our business. Some innocentpeople will come here and offersome.... Bas, thats our good

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One of my Gauya Maha

Godbrothers, big, he became thehead of this Bhag Bazaar Gauya

Maha. So his wife wasdebauched, and she was bringing

new paramour, and the childprotested.

Pua Ka: New?Prabhupda: Paramour. And theboy, he was ten years or twelveyears old, he could understand:

Who is this man? So he

protested and said, I shall tell allthese things to my father. Andhe was killed.


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Prabhupda: By the mother.Hari-auri: She murdered him?Prabhupda: Yes. Killed means

given poison. And the father, thatis, my Godbrother, seeing this, healso took poison. This is the endof Gauya Maha scandal. He

was also one of the trustees. ThisTrtha Mahrja was a trustee,

and another Godbrother and thisman. In the beginning, they weremade trustees. In the beginning,

Prabhupda was to undergosurgical operation. So he was alittle nervous, that I may die.

So he made a scrap paper, thatIn case I die, these three

disciples will be trustees of theGauya Maha Institute.

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Thats all. So this Ku ja Bbukept this. There are many longhistories. So one of the so-calledtrustees was this Vsudeva. So he

died, his end was like this.Pua Ka: His son was killed,

isnt it?Prabhupda: His wife was aregular prostitute, and she killedher child, and on this shock, he

took poison and died.

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Pua Ka: He killed himself,oh.

Prabhupda: Naturally, hebecame shocked, that This is myfamily lifethe wife is prostitute

and son is killed. What is thevalue of my life? This was hisspiritual realization. Just see.

(laughs) And he was made thechief, and one of the supporterwas rdhara Mahrja.

Pua Ka: Vsudeva rdhara?Prabhupda: No, no. He was

made chief. Guru Mahrja did

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Pua Ka: Am I mis...? Youhad told me once, Im not certain.Maybe I made a mistake. You saidthat Vsudeva, it was known fact

that he was homosex?Prabhupda: Yes.

Pua Ka: Vsudeva.Prabhupda: He was homosex and

sex, everything.

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Otherwise, kava dava adakanam(?), my Guru Mahrja used tosay. Beg some rice and bring itand cook it and eat and sleep.

Pradyumna: Kava daka?Prabhupda: Kava davaadakanam. As all our

Godbrothers are doing. They

have got a little temple, and a fewdevotees go and beg rice and cookit and eat and sleep, thats all.Pua Ka: Like being dead

almost.Prabhupda: No fighting spirit.

hkura dekhiya (indistinct).Just make a Deity, show. OurTrtha Mahrja is doing that.




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p p g

His whole idea was, that I havenow captured the birthplace ofCaitanya Mahprabhu by highcourt favor. Now I have got

everything. People will come andtheyll pay something, and that willbe my income for my family. As

the caste gosvms do in Navadvpaand other... A means of livelihood.He has no devotion. He wanted as a

means of income. Like theVndvana gosvms, Navadvpa

gosvms do. Little devotion,automatically, there is. They are,

after all, worshiping the Deity. But

their purpose is different. Just likewe have established Rdh-

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Who will come here, in thisforeign country or in this

secluded place? So our aim is tomake the devotees real devotees.Not for earning money. When weestablish a center in a place likethis, where is the idea of gettingmoney? (laughs) Who will come

here? One, it is a foreign country,nobody knows what is Ka.And one has to come with so

great difficulty, on the mountain.And who is coming to pay for it?After spending so much money,

they will come here to pay? Ourprocess is that wherever we stay,we worship Ka. As far as

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That we are doing. Not forearning money but spending

money. Now Trtha Mahrja isseeing that without getting

Caitanya Mahprabhus birthsite,

Swami Mahrja, he is attractinglakhs of people. Without the favorof high court, he is attracting.

That is his envy.

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Indian man: O.B.L. Kapoor?V d


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Vndvana...Prabhupda: Vndvana, yes.That Bhaktivedanta Swami

speaks as strongly asBhaktisiddhnta Sarasvatwasspeaking. You know that?

Krodakay: Oh, yes. I met somany times. I understand also.

Prabhupda: He said that.

Jayatrtha: Very nice compliment.Krodakay: He also said thatrla Prabhupda is only onewho has really taken the, his

mission seriously.Prabhupda: That is a fact. Of

course, I dont say myself. Thatwill not look good, but there is

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But he is only representative.Somebody, they frankly admit,

and somebody do not.====== REF. Conversation at House ofKrodakaydsa July 25, 1976, London


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We are eternal servant of Ka,but sometimes the servant thinks,

Why shall I remain a servant?Let me become master. That isnatural. A master is always in

comfortable situation. Sometimesthe servant becomes envious:

Oh, why this man should always

remain in comfortable positionand we shall serve? Why not webecome also in comfortable

position? Let me eat as he eats,or Let me sleep now. These areso-called comforts. So they want

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When the living being imitatesthe Supreme Personality of

Godhead, then he falls down.Ka bhuliy jva bhoga v chkare, pasate my tre jpaiydhare. As soon as he forgets hispositionhe wants to imitatethat is the beginning of my,falldown. You should be very

careful.

====== REF. rmad-Bhgavatam 5.6.3 --Vndvana, November 25, 1976

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are mentioned in theMahbhrata as mauala-ll.

These include the stories of the

destruction of the Yadu dynasty,Kas disappearance, His beingpierced by a hunters arrow, the

story of Kas being anincarnation of a piece of hair

(kea-avatra) as well as mahi-

haraa, the kidnapping of Kasqueens. Actually these are notfactual but are related for the

bewilderment of the asuras, whowant to prove that Ka is an

ordinary human being. They are

false in the sense that thesepastimes are not eternal, nor arethey transcendental or spiritual.

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Anyone who is contaminated byenvy, he cannot become Vaiava.He may be a envious animal, butVaiava is paramahasa, paramo

nirmatsarm. He is notenvious. Para-dukha-dukh.Vaiava, para-dukha-dukh.

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Just like I am pushing on this


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Ka consciousness movement, Iam doing so many things which

sometimes my Godbrothers out of

envy criticize. But I know what isthe circumstances how to do it.They do not know it. I know mybusiness. So that is their fault.

Their own buddhi business, thensimply criticize How he is

acting. Find out some fault. Justlike Lord Buddha was criticizedby the Vedic brhmaas, Oh,

you are stopping animal sacrifice?It is already in the Vedas.

Because it is sacrifice, the animalis also sacrificed, so how you canstop animal sacrifice? But LordBuddha, nindasi yaj a-vidher

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As such, he was not accepted,strictly followers of the Vedas.But he has got a different

purpose. The ordinary mancannot understand. But one whois devotee, he knows that why he

has done this. Therefore theyoffer their obeisances, keavadhta-buddha-arra jaya jagadahare. A devotee does not acceptthe philosophy of Buddha butaccepts him as incarnation of

Lord Ka and offers obeisances.

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But their purpose is different.Just like we have established

Rdh-Vndvanacandra not thatpeople will come and pay

something. Who will come here,in this foreign country or in thissecluded place? So our aim is tomake the devotees real devotees.Not for earning money. When weestablish a center in a place likethis, where is the idea of gettingmoney? (laughs) Who will come

here? One, it is a foreign country,nobody knows what is Ka.

And one has to come with sogreat difficulty, on the mountain.And who is coming to pay for it?After spending so much money,

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Our process is that wherever westay, we worship Ka. As far aspossible. That we are doing. Notfor earning money but spendingmoney. Now Trtha Mahrja is

seeing that without gettingCaitanya Mahprabhus birthsite,Swami Mahrja, he is attractinglakhs of people. Without the favor

of high court, he is attracting.

That is his envy.====== REF. Room Conversation -- July 2,1976, New Vrindaban

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If you prosecute the path ofkarma, there is envy between the

karms. If you become greater

than me in execution of yourfruitive activities, I becomeenvious of you: Oh, this man is

making so much progress inbusiness or in some other way, in

practice. I could not do. So I

become envious. Similarly, if Iadvance, my friend becomesenvious. So karma-mrga is thepath of enviousness. Thereforermad-Bhgavata says paramonirmatsarm [SB 1.1.2]. The

Bhgavata is meant for personswho are absolutely free from

enviousness.

====== REF. rmad-Bhgavatam 6.1.14 --Bombay, November 10, 1970

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movement is for theparamahasa, who is not envious.

Paramo nirmatsar sat

vstava vastu vedyam atra.Nirmatsara [SB 1.1.2], when oneis not envious of others. That iscalled nirma..., Because in thematerial world, everyone is

envious of another person. That

is the nature. Therefore there isso much fight. Everyone isenvious. Nation is another

nations against, envious, evenperson to person, brother tobrother, family to family,

community to community.Everywhere, matsarata. Para-

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Matsarata means one cannottolerate others flourishing

condition. Immediately envious.But this system, Ka

consciousness, is meant forparamo nirmatsarm. One whohas learned this art not to become

envious. Tolerant. That is thequalification of saintly persons.Kind. Tin... Hm? What is that?

Titikava kruika. Those whoare preachers, they should be

titikava. Titikava means titika,

tolerance. There will be so muchinsult, inconveniences, againstparty, everything. We have totolerate. Titikava krua.


At the same time, we have todistribute the mercy of Caitanya


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y yMahprabhu. Titikava

kruika. Suhda sarva-

bhtnm, and friend ofeveryone, there is no distinction.Friend of everyone. Ajta-

atrava. By their action theyllnot create any enemy. Ajta-

atrava santa, peaceful. Ajta-

atrava santa sdhava sdhu-bha. These are thedecoration of sdhus, saintly

persons. Titikava kruika. Ithink this loka is there in the

Kapilas teaching to His mother.

Titikava kruika, ajta-atrava santa, sdhava sdhu-

bha.

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And how to make friendship withthe devotees. Loving God, Ka,

and making friendship withdevotees, who is devotee. Not tobecome envious of the devotees,but to make friendship. If thedevotee is uttama adhikr, he

should take lessons from him. Ifhes equal, then he should makefriendship with him. And if heslower, then he should try to helphim to become higher devotee.This is the business of devotee.vare tad-adhneu blieu

dviatsu ca. vara, to love Ka,how to increase... Yato bhaktiradhokaje.



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Simply to increase. How I can

better, render better service toKa. This is one business.Another business is to makefriendship. Anyone who is

devotee, to make friendship withhim. And other, blieu, those

who are innocent, those who arenot offender, but innocentpersons... Just like child, simple,

They should preach amongstthem Ka consciousness.Because they are innocent.

====== REF. The Nectar of Devotion --Vndvana, October 23, 1972

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transcendental pleasure. In thematerial pleasure, if I see you

happy, I am unhappy; If I see youunhappy, I become happy. This isnature. I may say otherwise, butmaterial nature is, if one is putinto difficulty, then I becomevery happy, and if I am happy,

others become envious. This ismaterial pleasure. Whereasspiritual pleasure means that

when one sees Ka is happy, adevotees happy, the other

devotee becomes happier. That is

spiritual pleasure. In the spiritualworld there is competition, but

when one is advanced, thecompetitor become happy: Oh,

hes so advanced.



I could not do so. There is no


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enviousness. In the materialworld, if one is advanced, other,

who is not advanced, hesenvious. This is the differencebetween spiritual pleasure and

material pleasure. It is notdifficult to understand. Material

pleasure means if you are happy, I

become unhappy; if you areunhappy, then I become happy.This is material pleasure. And

spiritual pleasure means by seeingyour happiness, I become happy.

By seeing... But there is no

distress in the spiritual world.Simply by seeing the happiness ofother devotee, another devotee

becomes happier.

====== REF. The Nectar of Devotion --Vndvana, November 3, 1972

rdhara Swami says. If in, ifsomebody is advancing, somebody


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is making improvement, hisneighbors, his friends, even most

intimate friends, they also becomeenvious: Oh, this man isadvancing so much. This man isbecoming so rich, so popular.Envious. So Vaiava is not

envious. If somebody advances

more than him, he appreciates:Oh, hes so nice that he hasadvanced more than me. I couldnot serve Ka in such a nice

way. That is Vaiavism. And ifone is enviousOh, this man is

going so fast. Let him, let us putsome impediments on thispathhes not Vaiava; heshnasya jantu. Hes animal.



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Vaiava cannot be envious.Therefore Vaiava cult... This is

paramo nirmatsarm [SB 1.1.2].No matsarat, no enviousness.Satm, devotees. Devotees means

he must be nirmatsara.

====== REF. The Nectar of Devotion --

Calcutta, January 30, 1973

The more we have got men,engagethem Anddonotthink


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engage them. And do not thinkthat temple cleaning and Deityworshiping are different. Do not

be envious, that This person hasbeen given the in charge of

decorating the Deity, and I have(been) given to wash the templewhere there are not Deity. No.It is the same thing. There is no

difference. It is spiritual. Inspiritual... Just like either you

worship Kas lotus feet or youoffer a garland to Ka on His

head, it is the same thing. It is no

such thing as This is head, thisis tail.

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So I am very much pleased. I willnot take much time. The rtik

time is now. You do not bedisappointed by the activities ofsome envious person. Bhgavata-

dharma is meant for thenonenvious person. Paramonirmatsarm [SB 1.1.2].

Nirmatsara. Anyone who iscontaminated by envy, he cannotbecome Vaiava. He may be aenvious animal, but Vaiava is

paramahasa, paramonirmatsarm. He is not

envious.

====== REF. Speech -- Vndvana, April 27,1975

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Prabhupda: Just like my GuruMahrja did not travel all overthe world, so I have got doubleenergy than him. So you musttriple energy, four times energythan me. Then actually disciple.

My Godbrothers are enviousbecause they could not do. They

could not do even half of GuruMahrjas work, and I am doingten times. So therefore they areenvious. So if an ordinary man

like me can do ten times, you areAmericanstwenty times, then

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My Guru Mahrja used to say,pra arthe ya ra sei hetu

pracra. One who has got life, hecan preach. The dead man

cannot preach. So you becomewith life, not like dead man.Without life... Just like all my

godbrothers. They are dead men.

And therefore they are envious ofmy activities. They have no life.If you want to make easy-goinglife, showing the Deity and then

sleep, then it is a failuremovement.

====== REF. Morning Walk at Marine del Rey-- July 13, 1974, Los Angeles

Brahmnanda: Swami Bon.Prabhupda: How?

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Satsvarpa: It was aninterreligion meeting, and there

were representatives fromdifferent Christian..., and he wasthere for Gauya Vaiavism or

Ka consciousness. But hedidnt give any strong argument;he just presented it as if it were

another way.Prabhupda: What is that way?Satsvarpa: Well, he said, he

described it very... About Rdh...That Lord Caitanya is Rdh-

Ka combined.

Prabhupda: That we say also.Satsvarpa: Yes, but the boyswho were there, they said it

wasnt at all the way you speak.



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He wasnt saying that ours wasthe best.

Prabhupda: No, ours is the best,

neither he is best nor it is as it is.Satsvarpa: One of our menspoke up and said that, the

president of Toronto temple,Uttamaloka, he said, So farweve just discussed different

religions from a relative point ofview. Why dont we discuss whatis the Absolute Truth? And they

all became... They didnt likethat. They said, We feel

defensive when you speak likethis.Brahmnanda: And Swami Bonsaid that You dont know so

much.



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Satsvarpa: Yeah, he criticizedour Uttamaloka. And then hesaid, Gauya Vaiavas, they

dont engage in argumentationand debate. So Uttamaloka said,Yes, Lord Caitanya argued with

Praknanda.Prabhupda: Oh, yes, very good.Satsvarpa: But Swami Bon said,No, He didnt convert him byargument, He converted him by

the effulgence.Prabhupda: (To Bon:) Butthere was argument, rascal.

(laughter)Satsvarpa: And as a result ofthat...

Prabhupda: He is a rascal, rascal.



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that our devotees in general,theyre not tolerant whensomeone speaks something.

Prabhupda: (To Bon:) You arealso not tolerant. Why you have

come here? Because you areenvious. You are the most

intolerant. You are blaspheming.

Satsvarpa: Yes. He also said thaton the altar in Toronto... Its analtar just like in all our temples.He said, Lord Caitanya shouldnot be there with Rdh-Ka.They have them separated like...

Prabhupda: Why? My GuruMahrja have so many Mypurtemples, Caitanya Mahprabhu.Brahmnanda: All the Gauya

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SoI amnotimproving. Socan


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So I am not improving. So canyou suggest anything? He said

that You offer 108 bilva patra to

Lord iva. And he did it for somany...

among the professors. I know thisone Professor afraid to come andsee his parents and come back to

America.Prabhupda: ...the Christian

meeting, where it was?Satsvarpa: In Toronto, different

professors.Prabhupda: What was the

subject?Satsvarpa: Just world religionswith representatives from

different religions. Each wouldspeak on their understanding.



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consciousness or GauyaVaisnavism.

Prabhupda: And who asked forthe Absolute Truth, that...?Satsvarpa: Uttamaloka dsa.Prabhupda: Hmm. So, they

avoided.Satsvarpa: Yes, they asked him...

Swami Bon said, Dont speak.Prabhupda: Huh?Satsvarpa: He asked

Uttamaloka, Dont speak. Youshouldnt...

Prabhupda: What right he has

got to say like that? It was ameeting. He did not say, Whatright you have got to say me?The president, he was president

or what?(Continued no next page)


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Prabhupda: No, no, in themeeting...

Satsvarpa: No, Swami Bon wasjust a guest also.Prabhupda: So why he can, why

he said like, Dont speak?Prabhupda. This is described inthe Bhgavata and the Caitanya-

caritmta also. Ka akti vinanahe ka nme pracra:Without Kas special powerof attorney, nobody can preachHis name. Caitanya-caritmta.So these rascals, Godbrothers,

they are envious that... What hehas written? Bon Mahrja. Justsee what kind of men they are.

They are not even ordinaryhuman being.



They are envious of me, and whattospeakofmakeajudgmentby


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to speak of make a judgment byestimation? Theyre envious.

Enviousness is immediatelydisqualification of Vaiava,immediate. He is not a humanbeing. Paramo nirmatsar

sat [SB 1.1.2]. ThisBhgavatam is meant for the

person who is completely notenvious. That is the beginning.Why a Vaiava should be

envious for anyone? Everyone isworking according to his karma.He is trying to rectify him, that

Be out of these clutches ofkarma. You come to bhakti. Whyhe should be envious? V ch-

kalpatarubhya ca kp-sindhubhya eva ca.(Continued on next page)


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of mercy to reclaim the fallensouls. That is Vaiavas

qualification. So Vaiava shouldbe envious? Just see. So thesepersons, they are not even humanbeing, what to speak of Vaiava.

Vaiava cannot be envious.Vaiava should be: Oh, my

Lords name is being broadcast.He is getting, giving so much

service to make Ka known.That man has appreciated, thatAll these spiritual leaders, theyare deriding. You are the only

man... You are... It enthuses us,give us more encouragement, that

you are keeping intact, love ofKa. This is an appreciation.



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should be, rather, very muchenthused that This single man is

keeping Ka all over theworld. And everyone is deriding.Even Gandhi is killing Ka. Dr.Radhakrishnan is killing. Their

only business is to kill Ka. Heis also doing that, our, this Bon

Mahrja. He never speaks ofKa. His rascal, that Instituteof Indian Philosophy, nobodygoes to urine(?) there. We seepractically. And our temple isalways filled up, five hundred

men. And he is trying for the lastforty years. He is simplyplanning: This will be

playground.


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will be this ground. And it isbecoming jungle. Still, he is so

envious, black snake. So onecircular letter should be issued toall our center, that Any Bon

Mahrja or anyone, hisrepresentative, should not be

received. They are envious. Yes.

Quoting that. We have got severalcomplaints like that. Satsvarpaalso complained. Sometimes our

order was cancelled by BonMahrjas propaganda.

Pua Ka: You mean he has

been corresponding withprofessors in America?

Prabhupda: Yes. Because he hasgot that background.


(Continued from pervious page)

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his literature. There must besome catalog or something that

his list of books is in.Prabhupda: His books?Pua Ka: Something. Or the

Oriental...Prabhupda: He has no book.Harikea: Just that one book.

Prabhupda: That is also.Pua Ka: Also, when I readthat book, long time ago, he saidin the introduction that once hetook a vow for two years not tospeak anything. I thought it was

very strange for a Vaiava.Harikea: He lived underneath

the ground in one cell. You knowthat?


Prabhupda: Yes. Just make ashow.

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Pua Ka: Youve said, Yes, ifsomeone can only speak

nonsense, they shouldnt speak.But if they can speak about Kato glorify Kakathayanta cam nityamthen always they

can talk about Ka.Prabhupda: He said?

Pua Ka: No, you say. Hesaid, I have taken vow not tospeak anything. I thought it was

crazy.Prabhupda: That is condemnedby Prahlda Mahrja. You will

find in Prahlda Mahrja thatThis is for professional men toget some prestige. Prahlda

Mahrja said like that.

====== REF. Morning Walk -- October 17,1975, Johannesbur

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Prabhupda: Sixty years, theycould not do any of these books.

And still they are envious. Withinsixty years they could not attractany foreign student or any bookpublished. And still, they areproud. They have got all theblessings of Bhaktisiddhnta.

Yaodnandana: They cannoteven attract Indian students.Prabhupda: Just see, how black

snakes they are.Yaodnandana: They do prettygood with old widows, however.

(laughter)====== REF. Morning Walk -- March 9, 1976,Mypur


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Prabhupda: A devotee is neverenvious of another devotee. He is

not a devotee. Tad-adhneumaitr. One who is devotee, wehave to make friendship with

them. How we can hate them?Devotees: Jaya, all glories to rlaPrabhupda. (end)

====== REF. Garden Conversation -- June 27,1976, New Vrindaban

Just like our Godbrothers. Theyare envious. What I have done tothem?I amdoingmybusiness,


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them? I am doing my business,trying to serve my Guru

Mahrja. But they are enviousbecause I am so opulent. I have

got so much fame, so manyinfluence, so much influence all

over the world. Everyone ispraising me about... That is

ignorance. And this is regrettablebecause they are posingthemselves as Vaiava.

Ordinary man can do that, butthey are dressing like Vaiava,and they are so envious. That

Trtha Mahrja, unnecessarilyhe was envious, whole lifefighting, fighting, fighting in thecourt and died. Simply planning.

====== REF. Room Conversation -- January8, 1977, Bombay

They cannot. They... Those whoare intelligent, they are makingsomething, rdharaMahrja


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something, rdhara Mahrjaand others. But this man wasenvious, this Trtha Mahrja,

because... He advertised that he isthe only favorite student ofBhaktisiddhnta Sarasvat.

(laughs) But spiritually he wasempty. Materially he was capable,

how to manage things. Butspiritually he was zero. ThatPrabhupda also knew andeveryone knows. He had no

spiritual understanding.Materially he helped Guru

Mahrja how to organize.Therefore he liked him, thatThis man is expert manager.

====== REF. Conversation and Instruction OnNew Movie -- January 13, 1977, Allahabad


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This looks like something thatDmodaraMahrjawoulddo


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Dmodara Mahrja would do.So we advised the police, We

think that he did it. So thepolice went over there and theysaid as soon as they had the letterhe started shaking. They said, Isthis your letter? He said, No.He says, You wrote this letter.

Because they could see he wasnervous. They are experienced.They said, All right, you giveyour signature. And then he

signed, and although he tried tochange it, they said, No. This is

the same signature. Now weregoing to take you to the thn.[police station] No, no. I am

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mi eku pgala. I didnt meanthis... Then he admitted. But hesent that to the chief minister.Prabhupda: Just see. How

envious.

====== REF. Room Conversation -- February10, 1977, Mypura


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Rabhupda: Yes. The samecondition as it was. They have no

life, dead body. Now it willdeteriorate more and more. Trtha

Mahrja, envious, managing.

====== REF. rla Prabhupda Vigil -- May28-29, 1977, Vndvana

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Jaya Govinda have been poisonedby this Parvat and thus it is

useless to request them to workfor the society. Neither they have

shown any capability till now.Under the circumstances, I thinkthere is no hope of getting any

service from these boys regarding

our mission.I wrote one letter jointly

addressed to Acyutananda andJaya Govinda but they have notreplied the same. I think as BonMaharaja poisoned the mind ofHrsikesa, similarly these boyshave been entrapped by Parvat.



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of my God-brother but he is sosalient that he has not replied to

my letters, but, instead ofreplying my letter, he has the

impudency of writing toRayarama. Rayarama may not

reply this letter until I have seenit. He appears to be as venomousas Bon Maharaja. They are all

envious of my activities here. AsJaya Govinda has not yet left for

Bombay, there is no need ofissuing indemnity letter in his

favor. I do not understand why hehas requested to address theindemnity letter to Parvat

Maharaja.

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These are very doubtful things. Ido not know how to deal withthese boys. Both of them are

silent about my letter of Oct. 13,

1968 which I wrote them aboutrealizing the money from

Hitsaran. I am really very sorryfor them

====== REF. Letter to: Brahmananda -- Los

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You are just a child and only byKrishna's Grace you've taken thecourage to go to Germany to opena center and work very hard. So I

am rather envious of youradvancement in Krishna

Consciousness because when Iwas of your age I had no suchenergy, although my father wasalways educating me in KrishnaConsciousness from the very

beginning. So I am sure that yourefforts will be successful.

====== REF. Letter to: Krsna dasa -- LosAngeles 1 January, 1969

This Bon Maharaja, perhaps youdo not know, has been rejected by

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recommend him as siksa guru. Ithink that he has no actualspiritual asset. For spiritual

advancement of life, we must goto one who is actually practicingspiritual life; not to some head ofa mundane institution, not to one

who has offended his SpiritualMaster in so many ways. I do notwish to go into all details here,but I must inform you that this

Bon Maharaja may be consideredas a black snake, and at the time

of His Disappearance, my GuruMaharaja did not even wish tohave him in His presence due to

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So if you are actually serious totake instructions from a siksa

guru, I can refer you to one whois most highly competent of allmy god-brothers. This is B.R.Sridhara Maharaja, whom I

consider to be even my siksaguru, so what to speak of thebenefit that you can have fr

prabhupada, the truth about my god-brothers

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