presenter: spike cover date: june 27, 2008. koi dealer best health practices certification program...
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Presenter: Spike Cover
Date: June 27, 2008
Koi DealerBest Health Practices Certification Program
What the heck is it?
Koi Dealers
Not hobbyists Not breeders or farmers Not grow-out facilities But KOI DEALERS – retail & wholesale
Best Health Practices
Best = best practical, but not perfect Health = koi health Practices = consistent and controlled
way of doing things
Certification Program
Certification = verification Program = organized endeavor
Put it all together
Organized endeavor Koi Dealers Practically control fish health Certified = verified
BHP
What’s the BHP trying to do?
Stop KHV disease at the dealer level
So KHV disease is not passed on to hobbyist
Is this possible?
Not completely (in practical sense) So why do it at all? Stopping some KHV is better than
stopping none It’s possible to intercept and stop all
ACTIVE KHV DISEASE (KHVD)
Andy Goodwin (I love this guy!)
…With many things, it is easy to reduce the risk by 95%, but really hard to reduce it by 99%. Some folks argue that if there are any leaks at all, the whole thing is not worth doing. The more practical amongst us recognize that reducing risk by 95% is a very real benefit…
Why can’t we stop it all?
Latency = carriers
Can we find the carriers?
Probably yes How? Antibodies Serum Neutralization – looks for
antibody effect ELISA – look for the antibodies So ………………………….
Why not test?
Testing is relatively expensive So why not just sample test?
What sample size is meaningful?
Huh?
Now this we can understand…
So how much is it?
Serum neutralization - $20 per test at UGA + blood draw + vet fee + shipping
ELISA - $25 per test at UC Davis + blood draw + local vet fee + shipping + $30 UC Davis vet fee
Sampling cost example….
Number of koi in “the batch” = 250 Estimated incidence of latent KHV = 2% Number of samples required = 110 (from
chart for 95% confidence) Serum neutralization testing =
110 fish x $20 = $2,200
or $8.80 / fish
Is lesser sampling an option?
Sure – but with lesser confidence In the example, sampling 5 fish is
virtually meaningless for untested fish unless latency is a very high percentage
When should we test?
Whenever it makes economic sense Probably not on “cheap fish” Probably so on “not-cheap fish” If and whenever an owner requests
testing – included in the price
Meanwhile…………
Back at the ranch……….
Who’s doing the BHP?
Project KHV is sponsor & management BHP authors group – (alpha order) Jerry Heidel, DVM, PhD Tim Miller-Morgan, DVM Denise Petty, DVM Allen Riggs, DVM Richard Strange, PhD
What are BHP goals?
Voluntary system in willing koi dealerships that will,
Stop KHVD before it enters the retail stocks
So not passed on to hobbyists
Goals (cont.)
Independent verification – by vets Certificate issued – by vets Ongoing reporting and inspections Recertification with
continued compliance
Questions we’ve heard ….
Who wants this program? Aren’t dealer the better choice to do a
program? Why are hobbyists involved? Why try to force dealers to do this? Why are KHA being suggested to be the
overseers?
Who wants it?
Market research – late ‘06 to early ‘07 50 US koi dealers 20 US veterinarians 75% of the dealers liked it 100% of the vets liked it
What about a Dealer program?
A dealer generated program would be preferable
There is no similar program by Dealers and none is planned
A good program takes ~ 3 years
Why are hobbyists involved?
Dealers didn’t do it Vets didn’t do it Hobbyists jumped in to simply ….
GET IT DONE Project KHV is already planning an exit Once it’s well started –
hobbyists will leave
Hobbyists’ involvement (cont.)
Veterinarians are writing the program Dealers and Vets are Beta testing BHP Vets & dealers will “cut their own deals” Vets seen as final program management
Why force the dealers?
BHP will be an all-voluntary program Everyone is free to participate or not –
Dealers and Vets Hopefully hobbyists will apply pressure
from “bottom up” BTW, Project KHV will GIVE the basic
BHP to vets that agree to not to certify non-compliant dealers
KHAs as reviewers?
One of those internet speculations that gained a life of its own
KHAs will NOT be involved Veterinarians will be the independent
third party reviewers/certifiers
What’s the BHP status?
Base document nearly complete thru 1st draft
Online course for certifying vets started June 21st ~ 10 to 12 vets in the course
Dealer Beta test sites identified ~ 15 dealers
Legal review underway
Just for gee whiz…
Down the road…..
Start Beta testing (dealers) ~ mid-July Finish Beta testing ~ Sept ‘08 Collect feedback and start BHP
modifications ~ thru end of ’08 Finish modifications and start final
reviews ~ 1st Qtr ’09 Wrap up & National release ~ 2nd Qtr ‘09
Summary
BHP goal = stop KHVD at the dealer Koi Dealers only – Totally voluntary Veterinarians write the program Veterinarians certify compliance Hobbyists exit after good start Provides a basis for better all around koi
health at dealers
QUESTIONS?
Thank you…….
The end……………..