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CRITICAL PROBLEMATIZATION: TRANSFORMING INFORMATION
INTO KNOWLEDGE
Suzana Alves da SilvaPROCEP: Teaching and Research Center of Pro-Cardiaco
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Problematization It is the act of knowing in concrete
situations
It is the reflection on the content of an act itself in order to act better within the framework of reality
It requires: Critical reasoning of reality Attitude towards the transformation of this reality
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Evidence-Based Medicine
“The integration of best research evidence with clinical expertise
and patient values and circumstances”
David Sackett, 1992
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Expertise
Patients Evidence
Haynes. ACP J Club 1996.
Model for Clinical Decision
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Circumstances
Patients Evidence
Haynes. ACP J Club 2002.
Model for Clinical Decision
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Circumstances
Expertise
Patients Evidence
Haynes. ACP J Club 2002.
Model for Clinical Decision
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Scientifically Informed Medical Practice and Learning - SIMPLE Model
Suzana Silva, Sicily Conference, Italy 2009 | JECP 2010
“Knowledge does not extend from those who consider they know to those who
consider they do not know. Knowledge is
built in the relationship between human beings and
perfects it self in the critical
problematization of these relations.”
Paulo Freire
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Scientifically Informed Medical Practice and Learning - SIMPLE Model
Suzana Silva, Sicily Conference, Italy 2009 | JECP 2010
Critical Problematization
“Knowledge does not extend from those who consider they know to those who
consider they do not know. Knowledge is
built in the relationship between human beings and
perfects it self in the critical
problematization of these relations.”
Paulo Freire
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Scientifically Informed Medical Practice and Learning - SIMPLE Model
Suzana Silva, Sicily Conference, Italy 2009 | JECP 2010
Critical Problematization
Clinical Action
“Knowledge does not extend from those who consider they know to those who
consider they do not know. Knowledge is
built in the relationship between human beings and
perfects it self in the critical
problematization of these relations.”
Paulo Freire
quarta-feira, 11 de agosto de 2010
Scientifically Informed Medical Practice and Learning - SIMPLE Model
Suzana Silva, Sicily Conference, Italy 2009 | JECP 2010
Critical Problematization
Clinical Action
Scientific Evidence
“Knowledge does not extend from those who consider they know to those who
consider they do not know. Knowledge is
built in the relationship between human beings and
perfects it self in the critical
problematization of these relations.”
Paulo Freire
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EBCP is ...
“The systematic extension of EBM into the fabric of clinical actions arising from patient-practitioner relationships.”
Peter Wyer
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Paulo Freire. Pedagogy of the Oppressed. 1974
“The process of problematization implies a
critical return to action. It starts from action and returns to it”
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Randomized Controlled Trials
Observational Studies
All the rest Cl
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Research and Practice
Info
rmat
ion
< 20%
> 80%
David Eddy. Evidence-Based Medicine: A Unified Approach. Health Affairs 2005.
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.... .
... ..
.
Suzana Silva, EBCP Newsletter, McMaster University 2008
Randomized Controlled TrialsSystematic Reviews
Logarithmic Transformation“Things must be as simple as possible, but not any simpler”
Einstein
Therapeutic Interventions
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Suzana Silva, EBCP Newsletter, McMaster University 2008
Critical Problematization
Logarithmic Transformation“Things must be as simple as possible, but not any simpler”
Einstein
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Suzana Silva, EBCP Newsletter, McMaster University 2008
TherapyDiagnosis
PrognosisHarm
Logarithmic Transformation“Things must be as simple as possible, but not any simpler”
Einstein
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Suzana Silva, EBCP Newsletter, McMaster University 2008
TherapyDiagnosis
PrognosisHarm
Logarithmic Transformation“Things must be as simple as possible, but not any simpler”
Einstein
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The Epistemological Crisis
Silva and Wyer, Where is the wisdom? II, JECP 2009!
XVII XVIII IX XX
Knowledge is gained from experience.
Theory of Tabula Rasa and Posteriori
Reasoning.
The concept of Weak and
Strong Verification
Theory is considered true if it works in
practice
Socio-Cultural context. Tacit knowledge
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The Epistemological Crisis
Silva and Wyer, Where is the wisdom? II, JECP 2009!
XVII XVIII IX XX
Knowledge is gained from experience.
Theory of Tabula Rasa and Posteriori
Reasoning.
The concept of Weak and
Strong Verification
Theory is considered true if it works in
practice
Socio-Cultural context. Tacit knowledge
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The Epistemological Crisis
Silva and Wyer, Where is the wisdom? II, JECP 2009!
XVII XVIII IX XX
Knowledge is gained from experience.
Theory of Tabula Rasa and Posteriori
Reasoning.
The concept of Weak and
Strong Verification
Theory is considered true if it works in
practice
Socio-Cultural context. Tacit knowledge
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Integration of Knowledge
Silva and Wyer, Where is the wisdom? II, JECP 2009
Clinical Research
Basic Science
Clinical Expertise
Evide
nce H
ierarc
hy
JAM
A 1992
Oxford Classification
Guidelines
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Integration of Knowledge
Silva and Wyer, Where is the wisdom? II, JECP 2009
Clinical Research
Basic Science
Clinical Expertise
Clinical Knowledge“Problematization” - Constructivism
Scientific KnowledgePos-Positivism - Pragmatism
InformationPositivism
Evide
nce H
ierarc
hy
JAM
A 1992
Epist
emolo
gical
Hierarc
hy
JECP 2
009
Comple
xity
Oxford Classification
Guidelines
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Integration of Knowledge
Silva and Wyer, Where is the wisdom? II, JECP 2009
Clinical Research
Basic Science
Clinical Expertise
Clinical Knowledge“Problematization” - Constructivism
Scientific KnowledgePos-Positivism - Pragmatism
InformationPositivism
Evide
nce H
ierarc
hy
JAM
A 1992
Epist
emolo
gical
Hierarc
hy
JECP 2
009
Comple
xity
Wis
dom
Oxford Classification
Guidelines
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What does it mean?Evidence Assimilation
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Evidence Assimilation
Patient-Practitioner Relationship and Practice Circumstances
Action
System
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UtilityTherapeutic InterventionsDiagnostic InterventionsPrognostic Interventions
Share consideration of Share consideration of Share consideration of Revised Estimate
PerformanceDiagnosisPrognosis
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FrequencyDiagnosisPrognosis
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UtilityTherapeutic InterventionsDiagnostic InterventionsPrognostic Interventions
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PerformanceDiagnosisPrognosis
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FrequencyDiagnosisPrognosis
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Share consideration of Share consideration of Share consideration of Revised Estimate
PerformanceDiagnosisPrognosis
Share consideration ofShare consideration ofShare consideration ofRevised Estimate
FrequencyDiagnosisPrognosis
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T h e n e w e ngl a nd j o u r na l o f m e dic i n e
n engl j med 361;3 nejm.org july 16, 2009 245
original article
Disclosure of APOE Genotype for Risk of Alzheimer’s Disease
Robert C. Green, M.D., M.P.H., J. Scott Roberts, Ph.D., L. Adrienne Cupples, Ph.D., Norman R. Relkin, M.D., Ph.D.,
Peter J. Whitehouse, M.D., Ph.D., Tamsen Brown, M.S., Susan LaRusse Eckert, M.S., Melissa Butson, Sc.M., A. Dessa Sadovnick, Ph.D.,
Kimberly A. Quaid, Ph.D., Clara Chen, M.H.S., Robert Cook-Deegan, M.D., and Lindsay A. Farrer, Ph.D., for the REVEAL Study Group*
From Boston University School of Medi-cine (R.C.G., T.B., L.A.F.), Boston Univer-sity School of Public Health (R.C.G., L.A.C., C.C., L.A.F.), and Harvard Medi-cal School Genetics Training Program (R.C.G.) — all in Boston; the University of Michigan School of Public Health, Ann Arbor ( J.S.R.); Weill Cornell Medical Col-lege, New York (N.R.R.); Case Western Reserve University School of Medicine, Cleveland (P.J.W., M.B.); Columbia Uni-versity School of Medicine, New York (S.L.E.); the University of British Columbia, Vancouver Hospital and Health Sciences Centre, Vancouver, BC, Canada (A.D.S.); Indiana University School of Medicine, Indianapolis (K.A.Q.); and Duke Univer-sity, Durham, NC (R.C.-D.). Address re-print requests to Dr. Green at Boston University School of Medicine, 715 Alba-ny St., L-320, Boston, MA 02118, or at [email protected].
*Members of the Risk Evaluation and Ed-ucation for Alzheimer’s Disease (REVEAL) Study Group are listed in the Appendix.
N Engl J Med 2009;361:245-54.Copyright © 2009 Massachusetts Medical Society.
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BackgroundThe apolipoprotein E (APOE) genotype provides information on the risk of Alzheimer’s disease, but the genotyping of patients and their family members has been discour-aged. We examined the effect of genotype disclosure in a prospective, randomized, controlled trial.
MethodsWe randomly assigned 162 asymptomatic adults who had a parent with Alzheimer’s disease to receive the results of their own APOE genotyping (disclosure group) or not to receive such results (nondisclosure group). We measured symptoms of anxiety, depression, and test-related distress 6 weeks, 6 months, and 1 year after disclosure or nondisclosure.
ResultsThere were no significant differences between the two groups in changes in time-averaged measures of anxiety (4.5 in the disclosure group and 4.4 in the nondisclo-sure group, P = 0.84), depression (8.8 and 8.7, respectively; P = 0.98), or test-related distress (6.9 and 7.5, respectively; P = 0.61). Secondary comparisons between the non-disclosure group and a disclosure subgroup of subjects carrying the APOE !4 allele (which is associated with increased risk) also revealed no significant differences. How-ever, the !4-negative subgroup had a significantly lower level of test-related distress than did the !4-positive subgroup (P = 0.01). Subjects with clinically meaningful chang-es in psychological outcomes were distributed evenly among the nondisclosure group and the !4-positive and !4-negative subgroups. Baseline scores for anxiety and de-pression were strongly associated with post-disclosure scores of these measures (P<0.001 for both comparisons).
ConclusionsThe disclosure of APOE genotyping results to adult children of patients with Alzhei-mer’s disease did not result in significant short-term psychological risks. Test-related distress was reduced among those who learned that they were APOE !4–negative. Persons with high levels of emotional distress before undergoing genetic testing were more likely to have emotional difficulties after disclosure. (ClinicalTrials.gov number, NCT00571025.)
Copyright © 2009 Massachusetts Medical Society. All rights reserved. Downloaded from www.nejm.org by PETER C. WYER MD on July 16, 2009 .
Prognosis Utility
Persons with high levels of emotional distress before undergoing genetic testingwere more likely to have emotional difficulties after disclosure.
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Diagnostic Test Utility
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Diagnostic Test Utility
Heart failure therapy guided by N-terminal BNP did not improve overall clinical outcomes or quality of life compared with symptom-guided treatment.
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What is the accuracy of BNP test for establishing or excluding CHF in patients admitted in the emergency room with non
specific dyspnea?
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Into Policy and PracticeAssimilating Information
I am going to give examples that pertain to practice in the level of System and Individual Care. The third dimension is Policy and will be delt with by Holger who will discuss the interplay of value issues and scientific evidence within the GRADE system
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Early Goal Direct Therapy
Recommendation to monitor ScvO2 to guide treatment of severe sepsis in the emergency room
Guides therapy and enables early intervention
Convenient, accurate and easy-to-use
Continuous ScvO2 monitoring is also available with integrated Oligon antimicrobial†† material
Rivers 2001
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Cartesian Reasoning
•Should Pre-Sep catheter be available in the emergency room and used to guide therapy in patients with sepsis?
René Descartes
Linear system: one thing leads to another
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The effect of a quantitative resuscitation strategy on mortality in patients with sepsis: A meta-analysis*
Alan E. Jones, MD; Michael D. Brown, MD, MSc; Stephen Trzeciak, MD, MPH. Critical Care Medicine 2008
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The effect of a quantitative resuscitation strategy on mortality in patients with sepsis: A meta-analysis*
Alan E. Jones, MD; Michael D. Brown, MD, MSc; Stephen Trzeciak, MD, MPH. Critical Care Medicine 2008
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Constructivist ReasoningTheory of complexity: several things may lead to other several
Evidence Assimilation in the Level of Health Care
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Constructivist ReasoningTheory of complexity: several things may lead to other several
Evidence Assimilation in the Level of Health Care
Scan
Identify
Assessment
Implement
Monitor
Steps
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Constructivist ReasoningTheory of complexity: several things may lead to other several
Evidence Assimilation in the Level of Health Care
Scan
Identify
Assessment
Implement
Monitor
What is the actual effectiveness of care?
Steps Problematization
quarta-feira, 11 de agosto de 2010
Constructivist ReasoningTheory of complexity: several things may lead to other several
Evidence Assimilation in the Level of Health Care
Scan
Identify
Assessment
Implement
Monitor
What is the actual effectiveness of care?
What should be done that is not been done?
Steps Problematization
quarta-feira, 11 de agosto de 2010
Constructivist ReasoningTheory of complexity: several things may lead to other several
Evidence Assimilation in the Level of Health Care
Scan
Identify
Assessment
Implement
Monitor
What is the actual effectiveness of care?
What should be done that is not been done?
What are the barriers?
Steps Problematization
quarta-feira, 11 de agosto de 2010
Constructivist ReasoningTheory of complexity: several things may lead to other several
Evidence Assimilation in the Level of Health Care
Scan
Identify
Assessment
Implement
Monitor
What is the actual effectiveness of care?
What should be done that is not been done?
What are the barriers?
What are the strategies to modify it?
Steps Problematization
quarta-feira, 11 de agosto de 2010
Constructivist ReasoningTheory of complexity: several things may lead to other several
Evidence Assimilation in the Level of Health Care
Scan
Identify
Assessment
Implement
Monitor
What is the actual effectiveness of care?
What should be done that is not been done?
What are the barriers?
What are the strategies to modify it?
What are the outcomes?
Steps Problematization
quarta-feira, 11 de agosto de 2010
Constructivist ReasoningTheory of complexity: several things may lead to other several
Evidence Assimilation in the Level of Health Care
Scan
Identify
Assessment
Implement
Monitor
What is the actual effectiveness of care?
What should be done that is not been done?
What are the barriers?
What are the strategies to modify it?
What are the outcomes?
Steps Problematization Evidence Need
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Constructivist ReasoningTheory of complexity: several things may lead to other several
Evidence Assimilation in the Level of Health Care
Scan
Identify
Assessment
Implement
Monitor
What is the actual effectiveness of care?
What should be done that is not been done?
What are the barriers?
What are the strategies to modify it?
What are the outcomes?
... what is the expected mortality...?
Catheter? ATB? Fluids?
Number of personnel needed? etc
Does this strategy modify behavior?
What are the main important outcomes?
Steps Problematization Evidence Need
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Medicine of complexity
“I woke up with palpitations and chest pressure this morning. It lasted for about 10 minutes. I just want to get it checked out, that’s all.”
This is how a 31 year old construction worker, who has come to the emergency department during lunch break describes his problem. His physical exam, EKG and initial lab test including cardiac markers are normal. His dad had a heart attack in his sixties. He has no other risk factor besides being a smoker.
Evidence Assimilation in Individual Care
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Chest Pain Unit• Low risk patient
• Follow the algorithm for low risk chest pain which includes repeated cardiac markers at 3 and 6 hours after admission + echocardiogram
• Non-invasive test for stratification: GATED-SPECT Cintigraphy or Treadmill Test
Cartesian Reasoning
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Chest Pain Unit• Low risk patient
• Follow the algorithm for low risk chest pain which includes repeated cardiac markers at 3 and 6 hours after admission + echocardiogram
• Non-invasive test for stratification: GATED-SPECT Cintigraphy or Treadmill Test
+
Cartesian Reasoning
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Chest Pain Unit• Low risk patient
• Follow the algorithm for low risk chest pain which includes repeated cardiac markers at 3 and 6 hours after admission + echocardiogram
• Non-invasive test for stratification: GATED-SPECT Cintigraphy or Treadmill Test
+
+
Cartesian Reasoning
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Chest Pain Unit• Low risk patient
• Follow the algorithm for low risk chest pain which includes repeated cardiac markers at 3 and 6 hours after admission + echocardiogram
• Non-invasive test for stratification: GATED-SPECT Cintigraphy or Treadmill Test
$$$$$$ - Low Patient Satisfaction - Overwhelming
+
+
=
Cartesian Reasoning
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Chest Pain UnitConstructivist Reasoning
Patient Priorities Practitioner Priorities
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Chest Pain UnitConstructivist Reasoning
Patient Priorities Practitioner Priorities
Am I having a Heart Attack?
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Chest Pain UnitConstructivist Reasoning
Patient Priorities Practitioner Priorities
Am I having a Heart Attack?Diagnosis Frequency
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Chest Pain UnitConstructivist Reasoning
Patient Priorities Practitioner Priorities
Am I having a Heart Attack?Diagnosis Frequency
If I come back to work what is the probability of something
bad happening?
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Chest Pain UnitConstructivist Reasoning
Patient Priorities Practitioner Priorities
Am I having a Heart Attack?Diagnosis Frequency
If I come back to work what is the probability of something
bad happening?Prognosis Frequency
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Chest Pain UnitConstructivist Reasoning
Patient Priorities Practitioner Priorities
Am I having a Heart Attack?Diagnosis Frequency
If I come back to work what is the probability of something
bad happening?Prognosis Frequency
What is this patient pre-test probability for ACS?
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Chest Pain UnitConstructivist Reasoning
Patient Priorities Practitioner Priorities
Am I having a Heart Attack?Diagnosis Frequency
If I come back to work what is the probability of something
bad happening?Prognosis Frequency
What is this patient pre-test probability for ACS?
Diagnosis Frequency
quarta-feira, 11 de agosto de 2010
Chest Pain UnitConstructivist Reasoning
Patient Priorities Practitioner Priorities
Am I having a Heart Attack?Diagnosis Frequency
If I come back to work what is the probability of something
bad happening?Prognosis Frequency
What is this patient pre-test probability for ACS?
Diagnosis Frequency
Will the algorithm for low risk chest pain help me out
excluding ACS for this patient?
quarta-feira, 11 de agosto de 2010
Chest Pain UnitConstructivist Reasoning
Patient Priorities Practitioner Priorities
Am I having a Heart Attack?Diagnosis Frequency
If I come back to work what is the probability of something
bad happening?Prognosis Frequency
What is this patient pre-test probability for ACS?
Diagnosis Frequency
Will the algorithm for low risk chest pain help me out
excluding ACS for this patient?Diagnosis Performance
quarta-feira, 11 de agosto de 2010
Chest Pain UnitConstructivist Reasoning
Patient Priorities Practitioner Priorities
Am I having a Heart Attack?Diagnosis Frequency
If I come back to work what is the probability of something
bad happening?Prognosis Frequency
What is this patient pre-test probability for ACS?
Diagnosis Frequency
Will the algorithm for low risk chest pain help me out
excluding ACS for this patient?Diagnosis Performance
If this patient in fact has ACS what will be the probability of a bad outcome in the next few days?
quarta-feira, 11 de agosto de 2010
Chest Pain UnitConstructivist Reasoning
Patient Priorities Practitioner Priorities
Am I having a Heart Attack?Diagnosis Frequency
If I come back to work what is the probability of something
bad happening?Prognosis Frequency
What is this patient pre-test probability for ACS?
Diagnosis Frequency
Will the algorithm for low risk chest pain help me out
excluding ACS for this patient?Diagnosis Performance
If this patient in fact has ACS what will be the probability of a bad outcome in the next few days?
Prognosis Frequency
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Chest Pain UnitConstructivist Reasoning
Patient Priorities Practitioner Priorities
1%
0,1%
Pre-Test Probability of ACS
Probability of a Bad Outcome if the patient has ACS
Meyer et al. A Critical Pathway for Patients With Acute Chest Pain and Low Risk for Short-Term Adverse Cardiac Events: Role of Outpatient Stress Testing. Ann Emerg Med 2006.
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Chest Pain UnitConstructivist Reasoning
Patient Priorities Practitioner Priorities
1%
0,1%
Pre-Test Probability of ACS
Probability of a Bad Outcome if the patient has ACS
1 out of10.000
Meyer et al. A Critical Pathway for Patients With Acute Chest Pain and Low Risk for Short-Term Adverse Cardiac Events: Role of Outpatient Stress Testing. Ann Emerg Med 2006.
Within 1 month
Will have a heart attack
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Chest Pain UnitConstructivist Reasoning
Patient Priorities Practitioner Priorities
1%
0,1%
Pre-Test Probability of ACS
Probability of a Bad Outcome if the patient has ACS
1 out of10.000
Meyer et al. A Critical Pathway for Patients With Acute Chest Pain and Low Risk for Short-Term Adverse Cardiac Events: Role of Outpatient Stress Testing. Ann Emerg Med 2006.
Within 1 month
Will have a heart attack
100% of patients > 40 y/o3% with multiple risk factors
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Chest Pain UnitConstructivist Reasoning
Patient Priorities Practitioner Priorities
1%
0,1%
Pre-Test Probability of ACS
Probability of a Bad Outcome if the patient has ACS
1 out of10.000
Meyer et al. A Critical Pathway for Patients With Acute Chest Pain and Low Risk for Short-Term Adverse Cardiac Events: Role of Outpatient Stress Testing. Ann Emerg Med 2006.
Within 1 month
Will have a heart attack
100% of patients > 40 y/o3% with multiple risk factors
Is there any other th
ing
going on behind this
chest pain?
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Chest Pain UnitConstructivist Reasoning
Patient Priorities Practitioner Priorities
1%
0,1%
Pre-Test Probability of ACS
Probability of a Bad Outcome if the patient has ACS
1 out of10.000
Meyer et al. A Critical Pathway for Patients With Acute Chest Pain and Low Risk for Short-Term Adverse Cardiac Events: Role of Outpatient Stress Testing. Ann Emerg Med 2006.
Within 1 month
Will have a heart attack
100% of patients > 40 y/o3% with multiple risk factors
Is there any other th
ing
going on behind this
chest pain?
Is this patient adherent and will follow the recommendation?
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Chest Pain UnitConstructivist Reasoning
Patient Priorities Practitioner Priorities
1%
0,1%
Pre-Test Probability of ACS
Probability of a Bad Outcome if the patient has ACS
1 out of10.000
Meyer et al. A Critical Pathway for Patients With Acute Chest Pain and Low Risk for Short-Term Adverse Cardiac Events: Role of Outpatient Stress Testing. Ann Emerg Med 2006.
Within 1 month
Will have a heart attack
100% of patients > 40 y/o3% with multiple risk factors
Is there any other th
ing
going on behind this
chest pain?
Is this patient adherent and will follow the recommendation?
Where does he live? Is it
close to the hospital? Is
there anyone living with
him?
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Chest Pain UnitConstructivist Reasoning
Patient Priorities Practitioner Priorities
1%
0,1%
Pre-Test Probability of ACS
Probability of a Bad Outcome if the patient has ACS
1 out of10.000
Meyer et al. A Critical Pathway for Patients With Acute Chest Pain and Low Risk for Short-Term Adverse Cardiac Events: Role of Outpatient Stress Testing. Ann Emerg Med 2006.
Within 1 month
Will have a heart attack
100% of patients > 40 y/o3% with multiple risk factors
Is there any other th
ing
going on behind this
chest pain?
Is this patient adherent and will follow the recommendation?
Where does he live? Is it
close to the hospital? Is
there anyone living with
him?Will h
e be able to come
to an outpatient stress t
est
within 1 week from now?
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Chest Pain UnitConstructivist Reasoning
Patient Priorities Practitioner Priorities
1%
0,1%
Pre-Test Probability of ACS
Probability of a Bad Outcome if the patient has ACS
1 out of10.000
Meyer et al. A Critical Pathway for Patients With Acute Chest Pain and Low Risk for Short-Term Adverse Cardiac Events: Role of Outpatient Stress Testing. Ann Emerg Med 2006.
Within 1 month
Will have a heart attack
100% of patients > 40 y/o3% with multiple risk factors
Is there any other th
ing
going on behind this
chest pain?
Is this patient adherent and will follow the recommendation?
Where does he live? Is it
close to the hospital? Is
there anyone living with
him?Will h
e be able to come
to an outpatient stress t
est
within 1 week from now?
Will an outpatient stress
test benefit this patient?
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“It’s not a heart attack (or a what-you-call-it), see you later.”
“But it is something, you know, there is something going on”
Patients rarely knew to whom they had been talking, either by name or designation
Lack of information was a main concern
Johnson et al. Patients’ opinions of acute chest pain care: a qualitative evaluation of Chest Pain Units. J Adv Nurs 2008
Patient’s OpinionBased on ESCAPE Trial, Goodacre et al. BMJ 2007.
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Where is the Wisdom?
David Eddy. Evidence-Based Medicine: A Unified Approach. Health Affairs 2005.Wyer, Silva. Where is the Wisdom I. JECP 2009.Sival, Wyer. Where is the Wisdom II. JECP 2009.
TS Eliot. The Rock.Acknowledgement to Peter Wyer
“Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in
information?”
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The cases presented here were used only for didactic purposes and should
not be used as a prescription or reference for practice.
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Obrigada!
Gracias!
Merci!
Thank You!
Danke!
ありがとう
The cases presented here were used only for didactic purposes and should
not be used as a prescription or reference for practice.
quarta-feira, 11 de agosto de 2010