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1 Professional Examination Professional Examination Professional Examination What are you expecting? What are you expecting? What are the expectations of the assessors? What are the expectations of the assessors? The HKIE Professional Assessment The HKIE Professional The HKIE Professional Assessment Assessment Submission Preparation Submission Preparation

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Professional ExaminationProfessional ExaminationProfessional Examination

What are you expecting?What are you expecting?

What are the expectations of the assessors?What are the expectations of the assessors?

The HKIE Professional Assessment

The HKIE Professional The HKIE Professional AssessmentAssessment

Submission PreparationSubmission Preparation

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1. Training and Experience Report

• The object of the candidate’s report is to inform the Assessors about the Candidate’s training and experience

• The report should be concise, between 1600 and 2000 words, in good English, typewritten on single sides of A4 paper and submitted in duplicateduplicate

• His account should be in chronological sequence and should explain clearly the precise position he has occupied on each case and the degree of responsibility assigned to and discharged by him

• Enlarge on any special problems he has met and on which he has obtained more extensive experience

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• An indication of the size and cost of work should be given

2. 4,000 word Project Report

• Is to demonstrate the candidate’s technical and professional competence

• The report should describe a project or parts of a project on which the candidate has been employed in a major role during the period of post-graduate training and practical experience

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• The report should include examples of works, together with sufficient supporting documents to demonstrate the candidate’s competence, involvement and appreciation of the whole spectrum of the development of a project

• The candidate should describe the role he played in the development of the project and should indicate the background to any important decisions for which he was responsible

• The report should consider commercial, statutory, safety, environmental and sustainability considerations

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• The report should also include numerical analyses, drawings, sketches, and/or other illustrations as appropriate

• Cost data should be included to demonstrate the candidate’s understanding of the financial implications of the decisions taken

• Pre-interview Project Presentation

• Candidates will be able to use the supporting document, submitted as part of the 4,000 word Reports, and will be permitted to use photographs and drawings to illustrate the presentation. No visual aids such as slides, overhead projectors or flip chart will be allowed

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• The purpose of this part of the assessment is to ensure that candidates are able to present themselves orally as well as in writing

3. Continuing Professional Development (CPD) Record

• In general, at least 10 days should be devoted to ‘technical’ subjects, 10 days to ‘contractual/professional’ subjects and ½days per year be devoted to Environment issues and also Health and Safety in Construction

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• The Engineering Supervisor will be responsible for defining ‘days’ and deciding which courses are ‘acceptable’ as CPD days for Scheme ‘A’ candidates

• For candidates under the General Experience Route the acceptability of CPD days will be decided by the Assessors

4. Training Logbook

Applies to Scheme A or ICE training schemecandidates only• The Role of the Civil Engineer in the

Community• A professional civil engineer is expected to

be aware of , and take due recognition of, the Community and environment in which he/she lives and works

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• Candidates should use the Training Report and Project Report to demonstrate that they have thought sufficiently about the role of the civil engineer in the community. They should be able to form broad views of the social value of their work and demonstrate their awareness and positive actions to protect the environment in which they live and work

If the assessors feel that the If the assessors feel that the CandidateCandidate’’s report fails to s report fails to

demonstrate this knowledge they may demonstrate this knowledge they may set an essay question on the role of set an essay question on the role of the Civil Engineer in the communitythe Civil Engineer in the community

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Dos’ & Don’ts’

DuringYour preparation

DosDos’’ & Don& Don’’tsts’’

DuringDuringYour preparationYour preparation

Dos’ and Don’ts’

• Do prepare well written reports since the assessors are expecting a high standard as you are assumed to have time to prepare and vet the documents both by yourself and your supervisors

• Do ask your supervisor and colleagues to read your report and ask you questions

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• Do allow some openings in your reports for the assessors to question but don’t over-do

• Do in your report tell the assessors what you have learned

• Do ask yourself whether you understand the issues contained in the report

• Don’t rush to finish your reports without proof reading. Remember that these are the first things to give the assessors your impression

• Don’t put in everything just for the sake of giving a chronological sequence of your experience. Avoid expanding too much on things that you have touched only superficially

• Don’t just put in description of the works. Emphasize on what you have done

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The Assessor‘s PerspectiveThe AssessorThe Assessor‘‘s Perspectives Perspective

1. Presentation of the Project Report

• 15 minutes for the candidate to present

• No questions will be asked

• As this part of the assessment comes first, you are giving the assessor the first impression

– Therefore …..VERY IMPORTANT

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• Although no question will be asked during the presentation, you should be prepared for more in-depth questions on the project during the interview

• Do expect that one of the essay question will be set on the questions asked about the project

2. Interview

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• The assessors are expecting well prepared and grammatically correct reports since it is expected that the reports are vetted by your supervisors

• Do expect that the assessors will ask question on subjects which you haven’t came acrossWhat should you do……?

– Don’t be nervous as this will emotionally overcome your logical thinking

– Make sure you understand what the assessors are asking. If in doubt, repeat to the assessors in your own wording your understanding of the question

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– Do tell the assessors the truth that you do not have the experience on the subject if you are really not having

– Then tell the assessors how you will tackle the problem by applying your experience and knowledge to a different circumstance

– Don’t worry! The assessors are after all testing your application of knowledge and experience for a logical and practical solution to an engineering problem

– Some typical questions:• What is the function of sub-base?• What is liquidated damages?• Will you allow concreting if the slump doesn’t

comply if this is the final truck available?• Name some elements in a Project Quality Plan• What should be considered when designing a

certain civil engineering element?• What are the advantages and disadvantages of an

RE wall?

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• What are the effects of vehicle overloading on a pavement?

• What are the contractual basis for claims?• How are cracks controlled in concrete?• Types of plant used in construction and their

capacities• How do you understand a lump sum contract?• How many elements are there in a safety plan?• How is bottom dumping controlled to avoid mud

wave in reclamation?

• What are the normal limits for noise, air and effluent discharge (water quality)?

• When is the contractor required to revise his Clause 16 Programme?

• What are the critical factors affecting the watertightness of a concrete structure?

• Under what circumstances are variation order issued?

• What is most important to ensure safety?

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Essay

Some typical essay questionsSome typical essay questionsSome typical essay questions

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Dos’ & Don’t’sDuring

Professional Assessment

DosDos’’ & & DonDon’’tt’’ssDuring During

Professional AssessmentProfessional Assessment

The Assessors’ perspective Dos’ and Don’t’s

• Do arrive a little bit earlier to familiarize yourself with the venue

• Do start some relaxed conversation with the assessors even if they don’t. This will help to warm both you and the assessors up and create a more relaxed atmosphere

• Do practice well your presentation as this is the first impression of the interview

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• Do always wear a relaxed smile on your face and maintain a good eye contact

• Do be confident about your point but don’t argue

• Do expect that most of the questions will be directed at your experience and project reports as more often then not, the assessors will not be having enough time to read in detail your training log book

• Do expect the assessors to ask the theory behind the work you have done.

• Do expect the assessors to ask how the work you have designed can practically be constructed

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• Do tell the assessors you don’t have the experience when being asked questions on things you don’t know. Tell your answer by saying that if you were put into such position, then you would…………, drawing experience from something you know

• Do expect the spectrum of questions asked will cover all the scope, including quality, safety, environment as well as sustainable development

• Do give the assessors a very good impression during the interview as this will help in the way the assessors are going to set your essay questions. This essentially means if the assessors think you are ok, they will set an easier question

• Do draft the framework with points for your essay answer on the front sheet

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• Do write with good penmanship

• Do be concise and to the point

• Do make sure you have enough points to give 1,600 words

• Do often use signpost word to add flavour to your writing

• Do draw a conclusion for the ending

• Don’t overrun the presentation.

• Don’t be nervous when being asked questions on something you don’t know

• Don’t pretend to know if you don’t know. Tell the assessors you have not come across this or you did not notice this and then tell your answer by saying……..similar to above

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• Don’t challenge your assessors since they may know something you may have missed

• Don’t just stop to think as you have to maintain the rhythm of the interview. If you really need time to think, tell the assessors that you need a moment to think

• Don’t think you know everything as even the assessors don’t

• Don’t just start right away to answer your essay question without a framework and points

• Don’t rush to finish your essay

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• Don’t put in abbreviations you think are commonly used

• Don’t write incomplete sentence

• Don’t ever write less than 1,000 words as this essentially means a fail

SustainableDevelopmentSustainableSustainable

DevelopmentDevelopment

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Sustainable Development is:-

• “Development that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs”

This means:-

• Finding ways to increase prosperity and improve the quality of life while reducing overall pollution and waste;

• Meeting our own needs and aspirations without doing damage to the prospects of future generations; and

• Reducing the environment burden we put on our neighbours and helping to preserve common resources.

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Engineers’ Commitment to Sustainable Development

• Our professional engineers, with advanced scientific knowledge and specialised technical skills, endeavourto shape Hong Kong as a prosperous international city by building world-class infrastructure.

• We are dedicated to making a safe, green and pleasant living environment for Hong Kong.

• We will work hand in had with all sectors of the community to achieve a sustainable future for Hong Kong.

Sustainable Development Considerations

• Social

• Environmental

• Economic

• (Natural Resources)

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Considerations in Engineering

• Renewable Energy – Solar, Wind, Waste, (hydro?)• Clean Coal, Bio-energy• Reduce Energy Wastage• Reduce Emission• Recyling C&D Material and Waste• Reduce Water Wastage• Reclaimed water• Development/Ecology Balance• Greening• More…………….

4. Pass/Fail?

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• Impress the assessors during the interview. It will help your chance of success unless you are real bad in your essay

The Profession of a Civil Engineer

• Being the art of directing the great sources of power in Nature for the use and convenience of Man.

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