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Proposed HDC Minutes for June 1, 2020 Page 4 of 10 VI. OLD BUSINESS Property owner name Street Address Scope of work Map/Parcel Agent 1. Michelle Black 05-0953 28 Eel Point Road Sports court 40-49 Ahern, LLC Voting Pohl, Coombs, McLaughlin, Oliver, Welch Alternates None Recused None Documentation Landscape design plans, site plan, and photos. Representing Miroslava Ahern, Ahern Design, LLC Public None Concerns (5:49) (4:45) Motion to Hold for representation. (Camp) Carried 5-0//Camp, Oliver, McLaughlin, Coombs, and Pohl- aye Ahern – Reviewed planting plan submitted per previous request. She placed the sport court as far from Eel Point Road as possible. Welch – His concern was regarding the grading submitted with the house approval; his recollection of the grading plan that what was submitted and the grading plan here; grade has been increased 2 feet on the outside circle of the driveway where the flag is. As far as he’s concerned, this is a house on a hill; and retaining and landscaping was an issue with that approval; he wants to see that compared with what’s proposed here. His concern is what was approved with the house; the grade in front of the home was discussed and at that time it was stated grade would not change; it has changed. He mentioned the house platform because it’s easiest to read. Looking at the northwest corner of the sport court, the existing grade is 36 feet and proposed is to go to 30 feet. This is relevant because it would change the baseline topography for the rest of the lot. He had no reason to believe the grade would change 4 to 6 feet that far from the house. Oliver – She’d like to see more information on the grading and fill. Asked why the sport court couldn’t be placed farther down the hill. McLaughlin – Fill can be overpowering visually by creating a mountain. Confirmed the fence is 8 feet black vinyl mesh and placed is inside a 4-foot retaining wall. Coombs – She would like to see less fill and less retainage. Pohl – The grading can become an issue on sloped sites; Mr. Welch mentioned that at the driveway there is 2 more feet of fill than proposed. This application is for a sport court and any grading should be taking place in the vicinity of the sport court, not the house. At the turn-around of the drive, the land slopes off dramatically. The contours around the sport court are stretched to the left side; that means fills is moving over to encompass the sport court. The sport court is now cut into an artificially mounded hill. More fill is coming in to level off around the court on a site that already has fill. The issue isn’t the location but the fill between the platform for the house and the sport court. Motion Motion to Hold for revisions and more information on the amount of fill and the grade changes. (Coombs) Roll-call Vote Carried 5-0//Welch, McLaughlin, Coombs, Oliver, and Pohl-aye Certificate # 2. Deborah Lothian 02-0746 10 Easy Street Hardscape 42.3.1-78 Nantucket Surveyors Voting Camp (acting Chair), Oliver, Watterson Alternates None Recused None Documentation Landscape design plans, site plan, and photos. Representing Paul Santos, Nantucket Surveyors Public None Concerns (5:31) (4:47) Not heard due to lack of a quorum. Santos – Reviewed changes made per previous concerns. Oliver – Likes the grass and cobble combination, Option 2. Watterson – Asked to see the edging details. Also likes Option 2. Motion Motion to Approve through staff Option 2 with the division strip to be up to the application. (Oliver) Roll-call Vote Carried 3-0//Watterson, Oliver, and Camp-aye Certificate # HDC2020-02-0746 3. Pauline Spencer 03-0833 38 York Street Shed 55.4.1-50 Ross Goodwin Voting Pohl, Coombs, McLaughlin, Camp, Oliver Alternates Welch Recused None Documentation Architectural elevation plans, site plan, photos, and advisory comments. Representing Ross Goodwin Public None Concerns (6:16) Pohl – Read Ms. Backus notes: no photos, 4/12 pitch should be 8/12 or 12/12; need material for roof and trim. Oliver – She viewed this; there is a substantial hedge around a very small shed; she has no concerns. Camp – Agrees about the roof pitch and the shingled roof but it’s behind the hedge and the windows match the house. Coombs – No concerns even with the 4/12 pitch because this is a shanty. McLaughlin – 4/12 pitch roofs were more common in the 1940s and 1950s; no concerns. Motion Motion to Approve as submitted. (Camp) Roll-call Vote Carried 5-0//Oliver, Coombs, McLaughlin, Camp, and Pohl-aye Certificate # HDC2020-03-0833

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Proposed HDC Minutes for June 1, 2020

Page 4 of 10

VI. OLD BUSINESS Property owner name Street Address Scope of work Map/Parcel Agent

1. Michelle Black 05-0953 28 Eel Point Road Sports court 40-49 Ahern, LLC Voting Pohl, Coombs, McLaughlin, Oliver, Welch Alternates None Recused None Documentation Landscape design plans, site plan, and photos. Representing Miroslava Ahern, Ahern Design, LLC Public None Concerns (5:49) (4:45) Motion to Hold for representation. (Camp) Carried 5-0//Camp, Oliver, McLaughlin, Coombs, and Pohl- aye

Ahern – Reviewed planting plan submitted per previous request. She placed the sport court as far from Eel Point Road as possible. Welch – His concern was regarding the grading submitted with the house approval; his recollection of the grading plan that what was submitted and the grading plan here; grade has been increased 2 feet on the outside circle of the driveway where the flag is. As far as he’s concerned, this is a house on a hill; and retaining and landscaping was an issue with that approval; he wants to see that compared with what’s proposed here. His concern is what was approved with the house; the grade in front of the home was discussed and at that time it was stated grade would not change; it has changed. He mentioned the house platform because it’s easiest to read. Looking at the northwest corner of the sport court, the existing grade is 36 feet and proposed is to go to 30 feet. This is relevant because it would change the baseline topography for the rest of the lot. He had no reason to believe the grade would change 4 to 6 feet that far from the house. Oliver – She’d like to see more information on the grading and fill. Asked why the sport court couldn’t be placed farther down the hill. McLaughlin – Fill can be overpowering visually by creating a mountain. Confirmed the fence is 8 feet black vinyl mesh and placed is inside a 4-foot retaining wall. Coombs – She would like to see less fill and less retainage. Pohl – The grading can become an issue on sloped sites; Mr. Welch mentioned that at the driveway there is 2 more feet of fill than proposed. This application is for a sport court and any grading should be taking place in the vicinity of the sport court, not the house. At the turn-around of the drive, the land slopes off dramatically. The contours around the sport court are stretched to the left side; that means fills is moving over to encompass the sport court. The sport court is now cut into an artificially mounded hill. More fill is coming in to level off around the court on a site that already has fill. The issue isn’t the location but the fill between the platform for the house and the sport court.

Motion Motion to Hold for revisions and more information on the amount of fill and the grade changes. (Coombs) Roll-call Vote Carried 5-0//Welch, McLaughlin, Coombs, Oliver, and Pohl-aye Certificate #

2. Deborah Lothian 02-0746 10 Easy Street Hardscape 42.3.1-78 Nantucket Surveyors Voting Camp (acting Chair), Oliver, Watterson Alternates None Recused None Documentation Landscape design plans, site plan, and photos. Representing Paul Santos, Nantucket Surveyors Public None Concerns (5:31) (4:47) Not heard due to lack of a quorum.

Santos – Reviewed changes made per previous concerns. Oliver – Likes the grass and cobble combination, Option 2. Watterson – Asked to see the edging details. Also likes Option 2.

Motion Motion to Approve through staff Option 2 with the division strip to be up to the application. (Oliver) Roll-call Vote Carried 3-0//Watterson, Oliver, and Camp-aye Certificate # HDC2020-02-0746

3. Pauline Spencer 03-0833 38 York Street Shed 55.4.1-50 Ross Goodwin Voting Pohl, Coombs, McLaughlin, Camp, Oliver Alternates Welch Recused None Documentation Architectural elevation plans, site plan, photos, and advisory comments. Representing Ross Goodwin Public None Concerns (6:16) Pohl – Read Ms. Backus notes: no photos, 4/12 pitch should be 8/12 or 12/12; need material for roof and trim.

Oliver – She viewed this; there is a substantial hedge around a very small shed; she has no concerns. Camp – Agrees about the roof pitch and the shingled roof but it’s behind the hedge and the windows match the house. Coombs – No concerns even with the 4/12 pitch because this is a shanty. McLaughlin – 4/12 pitch roofs were more common in the 1940s and 1950s; no concerns.

Motion Motion to Approve as submitted. (Camp) Roll-call Vote Carried 5-0//Oliver, Coombs, McLaughlin, Camp, and Pohl-aye Certificate # HDC2020-03-0833

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MILL POND BUILDERS COMPANYPO BOX 814, Nantucket MA 02554

T (508) 356-5479

HERNAAHERN LLC

28 EEL POINT RD NANTUCKET MA 02554

MICHELLE AND DARREN BLACK

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EMERITUS Development Ltd.8 Williams Lane, Nantucket MA 02554T (508) 325-4995 F (508) 325-8960

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LANDSCAPE DESIGN STUDIOPO Box 2213, Nantucket MA 02584

T (508) 333-5138 F (508) [email protected]

POOL CONTRACTOR

BLACKRESIDENCE

DAN [email protected]

T (508) 503-3500

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MILL POND BUILDERS COMPANYPO BOX 814, Nantucket MA 02554

T (508) 356-5479

HERNAAHERN LLC

28 EEL POINT RD NANTUCKET MA 02554

MICHELLE AND DARREN BLACK

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EMERITUS Development Ltd.8 Williams Lane, Nantucket MA 02554T (508) 325-4995 F (508) 325-8960

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LANDSCAPE CONTRACTOR

LANDSCAPE DESIGN STUDIOPO Box 2213, Nantucket MA 02584

T (508) 333-5138 F (508) [email protected]

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BLACKRESIDENCE

DAN [email protected]

T (508) 503-3500

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T (508) 356-5479

HERNAAHERN LLC

28 EEL POINT RD NANTUCKET MA 02554

MICHELLE AND DARREN BLACK

PROJECT

OWNER

EMERITUS Development Ltd.8 Williams Lane, Nantucket MA 02554T (508) 325-4995 F (508) 325-8960

ARCHITECT

SURVEYOR

BUILDER

LANDSCAPE CONTRACTOR

LANDSCAPE DESIGN STUDIOPO Box 2213, Nantucket MA 02584

T (508) 333-5138 F (508) [email protected]

POOL CONTRACTOR

BLACKRESIDENCE

DAN [email protected]

T (508) 503-3500

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MILL POND BUILDERS COMPANYPO BOX 814, Nantucket MA 02554

T (508) 356-5479

HERNAAHERN LLC

28 EEL POINT RD NANTUCKET MA 02554

MICHELLE AND DARREN BLACK

PROJECT

OWNER

EMERITUS Development Ltd.8 Williams Lane, Nantucket MA 02554T (508) 325-4995 F (508) 325-8960

ARCHITECT

SURVEYOR

BUILDER

LANDSCAPE CONTRACTOR

LANDSCAPE DESIGN STUDIOPO Box 2213, Nantucket MA 02584

T (508) 333-5138 F (508) [email protected]

POOL CONTRACTOR

BLACKRESIDENCE

DAN [email protected]

T (508) 503-3500

PREVIOUS ISSUES

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