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RATE project Helium diffusion experiments give nuclear evidence for a young world “1.5 billion years” of nuclear decay occurred between 4,000 and 8,000 years ago Updated ! D. Russell Humphreys, Ph.D. Institute for Creation Research

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RATE project

Helium diffusion experiments givenuclear evidence for a young world

“1.5 billion years” of nuclear decayoccurred between4,000 and 8,000 years ago

Updated !

D. Russell Humphreys, Ph.D.Institute for Creation Research

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Tiny “zircon” crystals in the Earth’scontinental crust are radioactive

Zirconium Silicate, ZrSiO4

75µm

Contain Uraniumand Thorium atoms

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The radioactivity makes helium

Eighthelium

atoms

Nuclear decay in zircon

U-238

Pb-206

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The helium is still in the zircons

Fenton Hill, New MexicoLos Alamos geothermal site

Radioisotope age: “1.5 Billion years”

Helium retained in Zircons% of “1.5 Billion” year’s worth:

0.127739305

1.223935024

1719729003

2715121702

581059601

Helium(%)

Temp.(ºC)

Depth (meters)

Sample

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The helium diffuses out of the zircons

HeliumAtom

Lightweight Fast-movingSlippery

Crystal Atoms

Wiggles through crystalLeaks through cracks around crystals

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The hotter the crystal, the faster the diffusion

Pure Crystal

Defects

Temperature (°Kelvin)33340050066610002000Infinity

Inverse Temperature, 1000 / T0 0.5 1 1.5 2 3

Diff

usio

n R

ate

Hot Cold

2.5

Typical “Arrhenius” plot:Diffusion ratevs. temperature

We needed ratedata for zircon

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Before 2001, only one measurement of helium diffusion in zircon was in printMagomedov (1970)“Study of the mechanism of radiogenic productmigration in zircon”,Geokhimiya 2:263-267.

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Magomedov’s data were ambiguousWhat does

mean?

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Interpreting “ln D” makes a big difference

lneD

lne(D/a2)

log10D

1.0 1.2 1.4 1.6 1.8 2.0

10–14

10–12

10–10

10– 8

10– 6

10– 4

1000 / Temperature (ºK)

D(c

m2 /s

ec)

In 2000 we assumed this— very fast diffusion

Russian zircon interpretations

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Zircons are embedded in biotite, a dark mica

Biotite

Zirc

on

Biotite might slow down diffusionHelium-in-biotite rateshad not been measured

So in 2000 we commissioned experiments on biotite

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We developed two theoretical models

Predicted biotite rates required to retain observed helium for:

1. 6000 years (Creation)

2. 1.5 Billion years (Uniformitarian)

Zircon

Biotite

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We published the predictions in the year 2000

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In 2001 we found zircon was more important

1.0 1.2 1.4 1.6 1.8 2.0

10–14

10–12

10–10

10– 8

10– 6

10– 4

lneD

lne(D/a2)

log10D

1000 / Temperature (ºK)

D(c

m2 /s

ec)

2001 zircon data agreedwith lowest Magomedovinterpretation

2001 Nevada Zircons

So we started zircon experimentsand changed models to zircon

Russian zircon interpretations

Biotite data 10 x aboveCreation model

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10 -23

10 -21

10 -19

10 -17

10 -15

10 -13

10 -11

1.2 1.4 1.6 1.8 2 2.2 2.4 2.6

2001 Nevada1970 Russian

re-interpreted

UniformitarianModel

CreationModel

D(c

m2 /s

ec)

1000 / Temperature (°K)

Zircon creation model within 0.5% of biotite

Defect line

Still needed Jemezzircon measurements 100,000 x

difference

Published zircon data approached creation model

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We extracted minerals from core samplesCore samples fromsame borehole & depths

Crushed, sieved, separated

Fenton Hill site GT2Jemez Granodiorite750 meters & 1500 metersLos Alamos National Laboratory

ICR Geology Laboratory, andActivation Laboratories, Ontario

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Extracted zircons were like Gentry’s

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An expert measured the helium diffusion rates

Didn’t know sponsors, goals, or sites

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10 -23

10 -21

10 -19

10 -17

10 -15

10 -13

10 -11

1.5 2 2.5

2002 Data2003 Data

Uniformitarian

Jemez Zircon Data

July, 2003Lengths 50-75 µmLower temperatures

Creation Model

D(c

m2 /s

ec)

1000 / Temperature (°K)

Shown in ICC paper

Model

New !

Our new zircon data strongly support creation

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New data give a more accurate diffusion age

0.1

1.2

17

27

58

Helium(%)

7.97 × 10-16

1.87 × 10-16

5.49 × 10-17

1.09 × 10-17

_____

Measured D(cm2/s)

7330

5730

2400

7270

Age(years)

277

239

197

151

105

Temp.(ºC)

5

4

3

2

1

Sample

Estimated Age: 5680 ± 2000 years

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10 -23

10 -21

10 -19

10 -17

10 -15

10 -13

10 -11

1.5 2 2.5 3 3.5 4

Cooler formation? Would require refrigeration!Loophole # 1

– 36°C+105°C

Data extrapolationUniformi-tarian

Model

D(c

m2 /s

ec)

1000 / Temperature (°K)

Model extrapolation

141°C

249°C+277°C

1.5 Gyr requires:> 140°C cooler most of the time

To– 100°C

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Loophole # 2

Much helium outside zircons? Data say “no”

BiotiteZirc

on

zircon: 1320 nmol / ccbiotite: 7 nmol / cc

Czircon >> Cbiotite

Helium at 1490 meters:

Diffusion always fromgreater to lesser C

4He diffusingout of zircons

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Loophole # 3

Big Gentry error? Our data support his

~ 80957502002

2715121702

0.127739305

1.223935024

1719729003

4212414922003

581059601

Helium(%)

Temp.(ºC)

Depth (meters)

Sample

30

40

50

60

100 110 120 130 140 150 160

Helium Retention%

Temperature (°C)

Our 2003 Data1

2

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Loophole # 4

“Closure” temperature? Low and not relevantC

losu

re

Ope

ning

Tclosure

Tem

pera

ture

Hel

ium

Time

Time

ClosureInterval << 1.5 Gyr

10 -17

10 -16

10 -15

1.8 2 2.2 2.4 2.6

Jemez zirconclosure temps

128°C

-170°C197°C

105°C

277°C

D(c

m2 /s

ec)

1000 / T (°K)

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Two zircon “clocks” disagree by millionsSummary

Nuclear decay:1.5 billion years

Helium diffusion:4000 to 8,000 years

We suggest nuclear decay rate change in past

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Conclusion

RATE helium diffusion experimentssupport the young world of Scripture

5680 years± 2000 years