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06-13-2009, 1:56 PM #1

yoshpupRegistered Member Trader Rating: (0)Join Date: Sep 2005Age: 32Posts: 5

Another curb rash rim repair DIY (56K beware)

As a long-time lurker, I figured since I've learned so much from everyone, it was time to give back to the community, so Idecided to finally try pcaulfie's curb rash repair. Plus, since I just ordered new Yokohama's, I didn't care aboutpainting/scuffing up the tire, so now was a perfect time. Nothing here is ground-breaking --- all the credit goes to pcaulfieand NASAracer (audiworld) --- but I hit a few snags throughout the process and will try to highlight a few of the pitfalls andgive a little more detail in the hope that it will be helpful for someone else.

References:http://tsx.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=657772 (pcaulfie)http://www.autopia-carcare.com/realwhda.html (NASAracer, Audiworld.com)http://tsx.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=673018 (color matching)

Background:

I had two rims with curb damage: one with severe damage, occurring on two separate occasions: one by me, one by mywife. The second one only had damage in two places, but as you will see, it was fairly deep. I repaired the severe one first,so I'll start there and then describe how I applied my lessons learned for the first while repairing the second.

Here are the supplies I used:

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- dupli-color sandable primer (DAP 1689), silver wheel coating (WP101 Silver) and clear coat (HWP103) (Kragen's ~$5 each)- Bondo glazing and spot putty (Kragen's ~$4)- WetOrDry 1000 grit (Kragen's ~$3)- Turtle Wax polishing compound - mild abrasive (Kragen's ~$3)- Waterproof 400 grit (Ace HW - already had this, but could have easily got 400 at Kragen's)- Paint thinner (Ace HW)- Simple Green (anywhere ?)- paint tape/duct tape- 3-5 rags

Note: the dupli-color WP101 silver, as many here have noticed, is not an exact match (see color matching link above).However, it is close enough and if used properly, can be blended very well. More details below.

Wheel 1 repair

Okay, here is the before picture for wheel 1. As you can see, this damage is just about to half the rim:



1. Clean. It's very important the the rim be free of grease prior to proceeding. I scrubbed the entire rim with the simplegreen about 10x (or more). For good measure, I then wiped it with some paint thinner and made sure it was dry (especiallyin the damaged grooves). At this point, the rim was free of grease/dirt. Then, I taped the tire with duct tape and newspaper.



2. Sand and apply bondo. Next, I used the 400 grit sand paper to sand down the damage (and surrounding areas) andapplied the bondo:

Then applied the bondo:



You want to apply bondo in thin layers so it will dry. Above is probably a bit heavy, but since it was warm outside (85degrees F), it dried just fine.

3. More sanding, more bondo. As I mentioned, you want to apply the bondo in somewhat thin layers, so I went through 2-3rounds of sanding (400 grit) and re-applying the bondo, then sanding again. You'll want to make this as smooth as possible.Any minor bumps will show up later, do not rush this! Below is what it looked like after this process.

4. Re-tape. Next, I used the paint thinner to wipe any remnants of the bondo/bondo dust (from the sanding) and re-taped to



expose only the damaged portion.

In retrospect, I would have exposed much less of the rim. The bondo is probably the only area that absolutely needs theprimer. The rest of the factory painted wheel will hold the new dupli-color silver just fine (especially with the sanding that Idid).

5. Primer. 3-4 *light* coats of the primer (10 minutes in between coats):



6. Sand after primer. After about 30 minutes after the final coat of primer, I sanded the primer with 1000 grit to make it niceand smooth (what I should have done was remove the tape and sanded the lines where the primer ended as well -- seebelow for more on my mistake).

7. Paint (original version). Originally, I left the tape on in the previous step and went straight to the sliver coat. However, thisleft a horrible line. My plan was to try to blend this using the Turtle Wax mild abrasive (trying to duplicate pcaulfie's work).However, I was unsuccessful --- pcaulfie seems to have a lot skill in this area --- and could not get rid of the line:

7. Paint (re-do). Since I royally messed up the previous step, I had to remove as much paint as possible using the paintthinner and a towel and some serious rubbing. Once this was done, I did *not* mask off the rest of the wheel, but insteadsimply sanded (1000 grit) the damaged areas and a little beyond (up the spokes 1-2"). The way I painted this time was tokeep the tape off and spray in *very* light coats, spraying in a sweeping motion, releasing the nozzle and pulling up as Isprayed away from the damaged portion of the rim to fade the silver in. For all you barbers out there, this is like what youwould do with your clippers as you fade up the side of a head! After doing this, take a rag dipped in paint thinner and wipethe overspray (spray that went beyond the fade) off. I must have sprayed 6-8 very light coats with 10 minutes and lightsanding (1000 grit) in between. I cannot stress how important it is to keep the coats light. This is vital to blend in the colors.Also, the directions say that you need 10 minutes in between coats and to apply all the coats within 1 hour and if you don't,wait 7 days to apply additional coats. I simply could not do this. One hour *might* have been enough had I done everythingright in the first place, but by the time I fixed my mess up and since I had to apply so many coats, this was not possible.Also, I wasn't waiting 7 days. That seemed excessive and everything turned out fine in the end. I guess only time will tell...

Note: if I hadn't taped so high (step 4) and I had removed the tape earlier (step 6), I could have avoided going so far up thespokes. And probably wouldn't need as many coats as I did.



As you can see, the texture is a little different where I sprayed. The next step cleans that up pretty well.

8. Clear coat and polishing. The directions on the clear coat are similar and say that I need to apply within 1 hour of the lastcolor coat. Again, not possible for me. By the time I got to it, it was dark and I wanted to see what how the color coat cameout in the daylight, so I let it sit overnight and picked it back up in the morning. I first *lightly* sanded (1000 grit) and thencleaned off the rim with a rag with paint thinner. Then I applied very light coats of the clear coat -- again, trying to fade itaway from the damaged part and into the factory painted/clear coated portion. I gave the clear coat a couple of hours andthen used the polishing compound to polish the entire rim to give it a uniform look.



Yeah, I know, somewhere in my fixing of the paint job I got lazy on taping the tire, but like I said, these will have brand newYok's shortly, so no biggie.Another angle:

Back on the TSX:



On to the second rim. The second rim only had damage in one place:

Steps 1 - 3 were the same as for wheel 1: clean, sand, bondo, sand etc.

4., 5. This time, I taped and primed a much smaller spot:



6. I now sanded the area (esp. where the tape was to blend the line) and masked off the tires:

7. Paint. After learning my lesson on wheel one, I left the tape off and faded the paint away from the problem area, one lightcoat at a time, wiping off the over-spray with a rag and paint thinner. Here's how it came out after about 4-5 *light* coats:



8. Clear coat and polishing.

Now on the TSX:



And that's it!

Thanks to pcaulfie, NASAracer for the great write-ups and everyone else who provided tips. Hopefully that fills in some of thequestions/concerns some of you have for this repair. Let me know if there are any questions.

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06-13-2009, 3:53 PM #2

MiamicarfanRegistered Member Trader Rating: (0)Join Date: Apr 2006Posts: 351

That looks fantastic. You cant tell it ever had damage. Did you spray the whole wheel with that silver paint? If not, the newsilver paint just blends in like that with the old silver paint so that it is seemless and not noticeable?__________________2005 TSX

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06-13-2009, 4:22 PM #3


Thanks, Miamicarfan. No, I only sprayed the damaged part and immediate surrounding areas with a fading/feathering motion.If you spray light enough (and you don't mask off the area -- I did this for part II of the first wheel and for the second wheel),you can blend it. Sanding with the 1000 grit, cleaning it, applying the clear coat then using the polishing compound finishesthe job.

06-13-2009, 10:29 PM #4

gasserRegistered Member Trader Rating: (0)Join Date: Mar 2009Location: BelarusAge: 23Posts: 53

awesome! thank you for this DIY, gonna try it in a week or so =)

06-13-2009, 10:42 PM #5

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Very thorough write-up, and thanks for sharing your "lessons learned", or errors as they were. Very helpful to anyoneincluding myself for not only wheel refinishing, but any spraycan painting in general!__________________2004 TSX, PWP on Ebony, 6MT, #00032. 2006 short block put in at 92,000km --> warranties are a good thing!.Hondata, Tein, Tokico, Injen, Unorthodox Racing, Comptech, Powerstop, Ingalls ETD, FLP Maven, Japspeed.Need parts? Then you need to try HeelToe!

06-14-2009, 12:33 AM #6

db1234Registered Member Trader Rating: (0)Join Date: Aug 2007Age: 26Posts: 21

great writeup yoshpup. about how long did it take to do one wheel?

06-14-2009, 1:13 AM #7

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props __________________IOGKF, NRA

06-14-2009, 1:30 AM #8


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Originally Posted by db1234 great writeup yoshpup. about how long did it take to do one wheel?

Since I messed up the first wheel, it took about 4 hours of one day, then about 2 the next day (a lot of that removing withsanding and paint thinner). Knowing what I know now, if I had to do it again, it would probably take about 3 hours total forthe really bad one. Perhaps 2 hours total for the wheel with only minor damage.

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06-26-2009, 10:47 PM #9

scheißterhöfferRegistered Member Trader Rating: (0)Join Date: Dec 2003Posts: 375

Looks great. I did the same thing on my rim, leaving the tape on when painting, and got the same result. I had to go backand redo. It's not perfect, but it looks alot better than it did before. Plus I think I'm more critical because I know it's there;the casual observer would never know. I wish I could start fresh knowing what I now know. But yours looks great.

06-27-2009, 9:38 PM #10

datnguyen24Registered Member Trader Rating: (0)Join Date: Jun 2009Age: 23Posts: 6

can't even tell the rims had curb rash, excellent work..

06-30-2009, 4:19 PM #11


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Originally Posted by scheißterhöffer Looks great. I did the same thing on my rim, leaving the tape on when painting, and got the same result. I had to goback and redo. It's not perfect, but it looks alot better than it did before. Plus I think I'm more critical because I knowit's there; the casual observer would never know. I wish I could start fresh knowing what I now know. But yours looksgreat.

I know what you mean. Future curb damage has no chance against me now

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Originally Posted by datnguyen24 can't even tell the rims had curb rash, excellent work..

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Originally Posted by Hoosier_Buddy props

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Originally Posted by curls Very thorough write-up, and thanks for sharing your "lessons learned", or errors as they were. Very helpful to anyoneincluding myself for not only wheel refinishing, but any spraycan painting in general!

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Originally Posted by gasser awesome! thank you for this DIY, gonna try it in a week or so =)

Thanks for the compliments. Hope it helps!

07-01-2009, 2:11 PM #12

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thanks alot... i needed this__________________08 Accord V6 Cpe Polished Metal Metallic06 Acura TSX Alabaster Silver Metallic

07-01-2009, 5:58 PM #13

froaaRegistered Member

awesome work, where are you located? I would pay you to do this

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07-03-2009, 12:08 PM #14

bhamsanRegistered Member Trader Rating: (0)Join Date: Oct 2007Location: Chicago, ILAge: 27Posts: 68

This is extremely useful. I have curb rash on one of the spokes about halfway up the rim. Its definitely an eyesore.__________________2006 Acura TSX Alabaster Silver Metallic Auto2004 Acura RSX Satin Silver Metallic 5 Speed

07-03-2009, 7:39 PM #15


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Originally Posted by froaa awesome work, where are you located? I would pay you to do this

Thanks for the compliment. I live in the greater Sacramento area, but why would you want to pay someone when you could doit yourself for around $30 and a few hours?

09-11-2009, 4:09 PM #16

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Sweet write up as I was searching for ways to DIY. I have a few on the rims that will need some attention soon.__________________LT

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09-19-2009, 1:26 AM #17

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I bought a used TL and the previous owner was kind enough to pre-curb a couple of the wheels for my convenience. Veryconsiderate of them, but it has been bothering me quite a bit. I've called a couple places here and they all want around$150.00 to do what you described. I thought that seemed excessive considering the cost of new or even used wheels with nocurb rash.

This gives me hope that there is a cure for my problem.

09-29-2009, 7:44 PM #18

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sticky this! the last curbed rim DIY lost its pics.

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09-29-2009, 10:39 PM #19

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Sweet deal...I used a dremel to kind of grind out the grooves of my curb rash, then applied paint and clear with apaintbrush...Mine looks OK...but not in comparison to your results. Great job!@

10-01-2009, 11:46 PM #20

TKOTedRegistered Member Trader Rating: (0)Join Date: Jul 2009Posts: 5

Great write-up. I will be utilizing your technique on two wheels this week-end.

10-05-2009, 11:29 PM #21

ofusball21Registered Member Trader Rating: (0)Join Date: Apr 2008Location: New JerseyAge: 26Posts: 74

Excellent Job. Thanks for the writeup. Sooo tempting to give this a try on mine. 3 out of 4 are scuffed up.

12-11-2009, 8:08 AM #22

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Great writeup and very helpful reference! Thanks and great job!

08-27-2010, 1:48 AM #23

chardnessRegistered Member Trader Rating: (0)Join Date: Jun 2010Location: chicagoAge: 23Posts: 29

is that rim the same color as the 5 spoke wheels on a 3g TL? i want to use the same can you bought but im not sure if its thesame shade of silver.

08-27-2010, 2:32 AM #24

Nice resurrection! Yes, it is the same color.

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08-27-2010, 8:49 AM #25

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very nice writeup. Thank you!__________________04 TSX 6MT90 Prelude Si

08-28-2010, 8:07 PM #26

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Only trouble with using bondo is that when they remove the tire the bondo will break off.

08-29-2010, 5:36 PM #27

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I will definitelly be using this! Thanks!__________________2003 I4 5AT Honda Accord Sedan 2004 V6 6MT Honda Accord Coupe

08-29-2010, 7:28 PM #28

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excellent write-up=hopefully I will not have to use it-no curb rash-(knock-on-wood)__________________2006 Milano red/ebony tsx 6MT w/nav. (11/17/06)

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