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SN Comment Response PageCommentsfromDOED1 It is not clearly mentioned that how to integrate VALORAGUA software and WASP
software into developing into a model and mention clearly that what are the outputparameters.Also,mentionclearlythatwhataretheinputparametersofthesetwosoftware.
AddressedinSection3.8and3.9
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2 Provide in brief the expected output of the guideline in chapter wise and explain what are tobewrittenineachchapter.
GuidelineTOCAnnexC
3 In the ToR, (page 40), it is written that the guideline preparation study shall cover following on12 bullets forms. Explain in detail the rationality of covering all things mentioned in thesebullets, how to conduct these studies after approval of the inception report and how it willhelponpreparationtheguidelines.
Coveredinanewchpater3.DeskStudy
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4 In the ToR (included in the page, 40), it is mentioned in 9th bullet Use power system planningand analysis software like "WASP" and "Valoragua" and other models, if any, for above studies.Mention clearly, whether, use of WASP and Valoragua are sufficient for preparation ofguideline and why and if only use of WASP and Valoragua are not sufficient, then give reasonwhyitisnotsufficient.Hasconsultantindentifiedonlyothermodels?
Preliminaryreviewofthemodelsshowthatthesemodelsaresufficientfortheguidelines.
5 DatarequiredforWASPandVALORAGUAshallbeenumeratedandsamplesbeprovided. TheinputdataareenumereatedinSections3.83.92527
6 Mode of running WASP and VALORAGUA shall be described in detail emphasizing on sequenceanduseofoutputdatafromoneprogramtoanother.
ItisaddressedinSection3.927
7 VALORAGUA and Core programs of WASP were developed in FORTRAN and compiled with oldversions. Most computers in DOED use 32 bit Windows environment and there are alsomethods of running 32 bit software in 64bit environment (unless these are device drivers).So,thisshouldnotbeanissue.
TheprogramsruninWindows32bitenvironment,textcorrectedand64bitissuedeleted.
8 Hydropower plants are to be categorized in terms of runoff river plant and storage plant. Runoff river plants are further categorized in terms of simple run off and daily poundage run off.Take this matter into consideration while writing the inception report. (eg. chapter 3.2.9 (a) &3.2.12etc.)
Section3.4.6isdedicatedtotheclassificationofhydroplantaccrodingtoflowregulation
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9 DeletetheworkWECSfromS.N.9,10,13to22ofreferences. Theerrorsarecorrected.10 Clarify as to how Model Project Development Agreement and manuals mentioned in the 3rd
to7thbulletinChapter3.1.1.2willbeusedtopreparetheguidelines.
Itisremovedasithasnoinfluenceonthepoweroptimizationguidelines
11 Create a new chapter under heading Desk Study after the present chapter 2 and before thepresent chapter 3 and in this chapter. Chapter 4.2, 4.2.1. 4.2.2, 4.2.3 4.2.4, 4.2.5, & 4.2.5.2shouldbewrittentomakeasintheinceptionphase.
Achaptercalled"DeskStudy"iscreatedasadvisedandtheTORishandledwithduediligence. 736
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SN Comment Response Page12 Numbering of the table number as done in the report is incorrect. For example, Table 1 should
be labeled as Table 2.1 as the table is placed in the chapter 2. Similarly Table no 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7should be labeled as 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, 4.4, 4.5 and 4.6 respectively. Similarly, label the figureprovidedbetweenpage5&6asFig.3.1.
Thenumberingoftablesandfiguresisdonecosistently.
13 Fig4ismissing.Providedit.Figureno2,3shouldbelabeledas4.14.2respectively. Missingfiguresareplacedandlabledasrequired.14 All the tables and figures provided in the report shall be mentioned at the appropriate place.
For example, there in Table1 but in the text, table 1 is not mentioned. Similarly, there is Figure2butFigure2isnotmentionedinthetextinChapter4.
Itisdoneappropriatelyasadvisedandtheerrorsremoved.
15 Provide page numbering to the Overall Flow chart of methodology which is placed betweenpageno5and6.
Thepagenumberto"Figure4.2.1OverallFlowChart"41
16 In the chapter 4.2.2 and 4.2.3, dont write like this .. is given in the Tablebelow Rather this should be written that is given in Table 2, 4 & 5. So, refer alltablesinthetextexplicitly.(ReferTable2,3,4,5,6,7)
Itisdoneappropriately
17 In the Table, provide a column under heading S.N. in the extreme left" and write 1, 2, 4 orapplicableThisshouldbeadoptedinthetables.
Itisdoneconsistently
18 Contents described in the table 7 are ok but these figures should be taken from NEA data.Yearsquotedintable5e.g.B.S.201213etc.iswrong.Quotecorrectyearsinthetable.
ThedataareaccuratelytabulatedinTable3.3.1(Souce10yearhydropowerdevelopmentplan) 17
19 In the chapter, separate subchapter, mention about data of contract agreement on whichDoED and the consultant sign the agreement to conduct the study and describe on title aboutDoEDroleanddutyinregardofhydropowerdevelopment.
Section1.2isdedicatedtoDOED1
20 Provide a political map of Nepal in A3 size and show all constructed and under constructionprojectsinthismap.
IspresentedinFigure3.4.1.Alldetailspertainingtotransmissionlinesandpowerplantswillbeupdatedtothelatestdateandincludedintheforthcomingdraftreport. 19
21 Pgv,2ndand4thpara:DoEDhasemployedJVofSILTandERMC,notERMCalone. CorrectedEverywhere(e.g.Section1.3) 2
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SN Comment Response Page22 PGvi,Istpara:MentionofletterfromDoEDtodifferentorganizationfordatasupplyto
consultantshouldalsobemade.Isdonewhereverneeded
23 Pg2,Table1:Activitiestobeundertakenarenotcomplete.Followingactivitiesaremissinginthetable:FormulationofapproachandmethodologiesFormulationofmechanismforknowledgetransferReportingmechanism.Workplan/timescheduleetc.
Addedasadvised(TableNo.2.2.1)
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24 Pg3:6throw:PreparationofGuidelines:ThecompletecoverageundertheguidelinesasperTORandScopeofWorksisnotmentioned.
IsdoneassuggestedSeee.g.table2.2.1(SN6)
25 Overallflowchartofmethodology:ReviewandassessmentofcompletedandunderconstructionmajorhydropowerprojectsismissinginReviewandAssessmentbox.Oneofthemajortasksi.e.preparingreferenceleastcostscenarioismissinginthewholeflowchart.
Isdoneassuggested(Figure4.2.1)
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26 NoReferenceofNationalWaterPlanisbeingmadewhichisveryimportantdocumentforthestudyunderconsideration.
Isdone.ItisreferenceN#160
27 ExistingTransmissionfacilitiesshouldbereviewedforsystemloadforecastandstudyingexport/importpotential.
Isreviewedassuggested(Section3.2)
28 On page VII the export potential of Nepal is mentioned as 12031 MW. Is this correctinformation?Whatisthesourceofit?
ThesourceisCEA,howeverthatisthetotalshortageinIndiapartofwhichisNepal'sexportpotentialfornepal(Reference5) 60
29 The writing of this Inception Report is like the proposal submitted previously as per RFP. Forinstance the inception report will be submitted , technical advisory group will beformed.This is inception report and shall be corrected accordingly( page 6 last paragraph,page7pageno.11,3.3.1)
Theerrorsarecorrected.(e.g.Section4.3.1)
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SN Comment Response Page30 In section 3.2.10 there is mentioned about other model, please be specific and write about
thatmodelyouareplanningtousewithjustificationItisrealizedthatVALORGUAandWASParesufficient.Thereferencestoothermodelareremoved.
31 Is there any relevance of copy of details of Survey Licenses which has been put on annex? It issuggested to summarise them. Further, the map of power station, transmission and substationsarenotcleartounderstand.
ThesedetailsareremovedandonlytheoperatingandunderconstructionplantsarelistedanddiscussedinSection3.4.6 22
32 Theliteraturereviewportionshouldbeelaborated. ItiselaboratedinChapter3.("DeskStudy") 733 The information given in the first paragraph of page 16 about VALORAGUA software are not
correct.Pleasecorrectthese.CorrectedassuggestedseeSection5.1.1.2
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34 The references provided shall be correctly mentioned as per standard practice (like WECSDesign guidelines for Water Conveyance System of Hydropower Projects it is published byDOEDtherearemanysuchtypeofmistakecorrectthese)
Erratacorrectedasnoticed60
35 The report is not in sequence as mentioned in flow chart (compilation of hydrometrologicaldata, review of existing national guidelines and norms etc. shall be done in inception reportbut these are not presented in this report). Please write all the scope of works in sequentialorderwithjustification
ItisdoneinChapter3
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36 Passageofsection3.3.2shallbecorrected. Doneassuggested(nowSection4.3.2) 4637 Inpage6,firstparagraph,thereiswrittenaboutfig1,butthereisnotlabeloffig1inreport. Thishasbeencorrected.Thefigure1isrenumberedtoFigure
4.2.1(Section3.2)41
38 Consultant is asking about newer version VALORAGUA compatible to 64 bit computer. ButDOEDdoesnothavethis.
Themodelwillbesetupin32bitWindowsEnvironment.SothereisnoneedofenquiryaboutnewerversionsofVALORAGUAandWASP.
39 The purpose of this study is to prepare the optimization guidelines of hydropower plants aswellaspowersystem.Henceitisrequestedtorewritethesection3.2.12,page9.
Itisrerwitten.(see4.2.13)43
40 What is the significance of aerial photographs and Model Project Development Agreement inconductingthestudy?(Section3.1.1/3.2.1onpage5,7andSection3.2.5onpage8)
Thesetermsareremoved
41 Others:oSourcesofalltheinformationshallbementionedcorrectly.oThereareothermanyspellingerrorsandgrammaticalerrorswhichshouldbecorrectedcheckingthoroughly.oTherearemanymistakesinAbbreviationAcronyms.Correctthem(LikeEIA,Q20,Q90,Mwh,andmanyothers)
Sourcesduelyindicated;errorsareremoved;abbreviationsarecorrected
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CommentsfromMr.SherSinghBhata Atvariouscontexts,includingtheoverallflowchartofmethodology,seasonalvariationof
demandhasbeenconsidered.ButinourcaseofDailyDemandCurve,DailyLoadfactoris52%andhencetimeofthedayvariationsareimportanttoconsiderforoptimization.Pleasetakethisinnote.
Thishasbeentakenintoaccount(Section3.3)
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b WehavebeendoingnumerousHydrologicalandMeteorologicalstudies.Willitbeappropriatetospecifythetimelinevalidityofsuchstudiesforthepurposeofoptimization.Astudyperformedtodaywillholdtillhowmanyyearsdowntheline?
Thenoteistakenintoaccount
c Standaloneprojectoptimizationorprojectoptimizationinthissystem(networkormarket) Optimizationofstandaloneprojectiseasier
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SN Comment Response PageCommentsfromMr.A.Rajbhnadari1 ThoughtheToRsobjectivesarenotthatexplicit,myunderstandingarethattheobjectivesof
theStudyProjectseemtobetwofold:a.DeterminationofLRMC.GenerallyLRMCoravoidedthermalisusedtovaluebenefitsagainstcostforplantsizeoptimizationofhydropowerprojects.b.CapacityBuildingofDOEDstaff.
Correct
2 ThereisconfusionwhetherthepurposeofthestudyispreparationofGuidelinesforPowerSystemOptimation(Planning)orGuidelinesforplantsizeoptimizationofhydropowerprojects.MyunderstandingisthatPowerSystemPlanningistheprocesstoworkouttheGuidelinesforplantsizeoptimizationofhydropowerprojects.
Correctnotion.Itisforboth
3 PowerSystemPlanningisessentiallyguidedbytwoprinciples:a.Demandforelectricityisnotunlimited.b.Availabilityoffundstofinancetheconstructionofhydropowerprojectsisalsonotunlimited.Intheabsenceofthesetwoguidingprinciples,thereislittleuseofdoingPowerSystemPlanning.
Agreedupon
4 Isthefieldvisitsreallynecessary? Yes5 ExecutiveSummaryviipara4:couplingofVALORAGUAandWASPsoftware.Isitreally
possibleastheyareIAEAsproprietarysoftware.Theycanbemadeworkseamlesslyiftheconcernedagenciesagreeupon
6 Para3.1.3constantlymonitoredalsofromHeadOfficebacksupportandqualityassurancesystem.Whatdoesthisimply?
TheColnsultant'sstandardprocess
7 Para3.2.9..easilycompactable(compatible?)forWASPandVALORAGUA.WhichsoftwaredoestheConsultantintendtouse?
Noothersoftwarewillbeused.Sothetextisremoved
8 Para3.2.10:SameasComment5. Theycanbemadeworkseamlesslyiftheconcernedagenciesagreeupon
9 Para4.1.4NotClear.PowerSystemPlanningisgenerallycarriedoutforlongterm(>20years).OnlythesimulationresultscanbebrokendownintoShort,MediumandLongterms.
Agreedupon
10 Para4.1.5.2:SameasComment4 Yes11 Para4.2.3WhileassessingtheexportpotentialtoIndia,arewetryingtoexportfirmcapacity
andfirmenergyorjusttheseasonalsurplus?Ourwishwouldbeseasonalsurplus,butitwillbedeterminedbymutualbusinessagreements.
12 Pg26Para6:SameasComment5. Theycanbemadeworkseamlesslyiftheconcernedagenciesagreeupon
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CommentsfromMr.R.B.Karki1 Moreemphasisandfocushavebeengiventoexportmarketonlywhilepreparingguidelinesof
availablehydropotentialwithoutgivingprioritytodomesticmarket.Soitisadvisedtogivemorefocustodomesticdemandtooindifferenttimeframei.e.short,midandlongtermforoveralleconomicprosperityofthecountryinadditiontoexpertmarket.
Thenoteistakenintoaccount
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2 GoingthroughtheinceptionreportitseemsthattheConsultantdidnotclearly/fullyunderstoodthescopeofstudy.Preparationof"GuidelinesforPowerSystemOptimizationofHydropowerProject"meansitisnotonlytooptimizetheparametershydropowergenerationprojects/plantsbutoverallcompletepowersystemstartfromgeneration(production)uptoendusemarketviereliabletransmissionlines.So,needtooptimizeoverallparametersofcompletepowersystem.
ItwillbedoneasTORrequires
3 Inpagevisecondparaofreport,itismentionedthattheConsultantwillcarryoutstudyaspernegotiationwithClient,butwetheTAGrouparenotknownofit.
ThestatementisremovedandtheworkwillbedoneaccordingtoTOR
4 Thefirstreporthasmistakeindifferentpagese.g.evenoncoverpagethetitleshallbe"PreparationofGuidelinesforPowerSystemOptimizationofHydropowerProjectsbutnot"PreparationofGuidelinesforPowerSystemOptimizationGuidelinesofHydropowerProject"
Thankyouforindicatingthemistakes.Theerrorsareremovedasnoted.
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SN Comment Response PageCommentsfromDr.N.R.Karki1 TheConsultanthasreviewedseveralrelevantdocumentsincludingActs,guidelines,policies,
Laws,conventionstounderstandtheframeworkunderwhichtheproposedguidelineshavetobeprepared.
Agreed
2 TheConsultantshallcomeoutwiththeguidelinethatwillenablethesystemplanners,utilitiesandpowerprojectdevelopersintheirrespectiveworkstoarriveatthebestpossibledecisions
Agreed
3 Theguidelineshallbethebasisforoptimizationofthewholepowersystemincludinggeneration,transmission,distributionconsideringthepossibleimport/exportscenariowiththeneighbouringcountry/countries.
Agreed
4 In the context of competition at electricity generation, transmission and distribution in thecountry, it is more pertinent to carry out system analyses under different scenarios and predicttherespectiveoptimalsolutions.
Agreed
5 This guideline shall serve as reference book for potential power developers and the buyers oftheir products (read:electricity) to arrive at mutally beneficial rates when concluding PowerPurchaseAgreements.
Agreed
6 Thesignificanceofboththeavailibilityofpowergenerationandpresenceofdemandforpoweris imminent in any electric power system. As the creation of these facilities have significantlead times, it is necessary to assess demand and create necessary facilities on timely manner.The guideline, therefore, shall cover the transmission system as well. The distribution systemsmay not be considered separately but their loads can be lumped and connected to thetransmission/subtransmissionvoltagelevels.
Agreed
7 The Consultant shall provide the customised model for Power System Optimization clearlyidentifying the system variables/parameters and methods of obtaining them. Often, theoptimization process does not result in optimal/best solution because of wrong/bad choice ofsystem variables/parameters. This issue has to be clearly spelt out and necessary measuresrecommended.
Agreed
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SN Comment Response PageCommentsfromDr.A.Mishra1 Forbeteranalysismoredataneedtobecollected ThanksforYoursuggestion.Moredatasarebeingcollected.
2 brainstormingwithfactsislacking Consultantwillstrivetodomorebrainstroming.3 understandingofcharachtersticdiferencesforoptimalplaningthermaldominatedandhydro
dominatedhydrothermalpowersystemisneeded.Moreattensionwillbegiventoit
Specific1 Section3.2.5Reviewoflongtermelectricity(powerandenergy)demandandidentifyvarious
demandsundervariouseconomicscenariosothemeaningofvariouseconomicscenarioscouldhavebeenelaboratedinreport.i.e.isitsimplybasedondifferentGDPsorbasedonscenariosforincreasedorreplacementofenduses?Thisisimportant,asbesidestheindustrialgrowth,thereiswidescopeforreplacementofendusesbyelectricityinNepalfromtransportaiontohouseholdappllicationswhichmaynotexactlyrepresentedbyGDPalone)oinsec.4.2.2,thecollecteddemandforcastdatafor20112027isonlyatasinglescenario,intheforcastbyNEAconsulatntisnotclearaboutthescenario,thoughitisguessedinthereportthatitmightbeat4%GDP.
ElaboratednowinSection3.1
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2 Section4.2.3Reviewofexportmarket,oAspertheAllIndiaActualPowerSupplyposition(April2010toMarch2011)theshortageofpeakdemandhasbeenshowntobe12031MWwhichofcourseisahugemarketfromNepaleaseprospectves.Howeverthereportitselfmentionthatitsunder10%ofIndiastotaldemand.Thismightbemangagbleinitsowne.g.byeffectivedemandsidemanagment,properlossreductionsetc.Thereportlacksonbrainstorming(sensitivity)onsuch.oInTable5thetenyearforcastofenergydemandinIndiahasbeenpresentedonlyatasingleGDP(i.e.predicatedyeralyGDP).Consideringtheinternationaleconomysenario,demandforcastforalternativeGDPscouldhavebeenpresented.
Itisdiscussedin3.2inviewofnationaldocuments
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SN Comment Response Page3 Section4.2.4Reviewofseasonalvariationofpowerandenergy,
oTheyearforwhichthedataispresented,Nepalisfacingaampleloadsheding.Hencethepresentedpeakdemandisnottheactualbutapredictedoneonly.Alsothepresenteddatashowsaveryinterestingtrendi.e.Thedryseasonpeakdemandofpreviousyearisalmostthesameasthewetseasonpeakdemandofnextyearorvsversaforallyear(777:774,845:843,919:919).Ifitistrue,couldgreatelysimplifytheanalysisofseasonalvariationofdemandanalysis.oForbetterunderstandingaboutseasonalvariationsomemorepreviousyearsdata(possiblywithoutloadsheding)mightbemeaningfull.
Iselaborated
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4 Theabovesuggestions/commentsareonlyforthosedatawhichhavebeenpresented.Besidesabove,moredatae.g.hydrologicaldataetc.needtobecollecetdasperthescopeatinceptionlevel.
aIselaborated;biselaborated;hydrologicaldataarecollected
5 Section3.2.9LRMCwillbecalculatedundereachsenarios.................willbecalculatedbyappropriatesoftware.oAtthisstage,itcouldhavementionedthefactors,powersystemcompomnentsandassumptionstobemadeforLRMC.oDifferentalternativemethodsforLRMCcomputationscouldatleastbepresented.
Elaborated;AlternativemethodswillbeusedtoverifyresultsfromWASP
6 SectionReview................VALORAGUAmodel....Thistoolisdevelopedfor..................formixedhydrothermalsystemsoinalmostallinternationalliteraturesandsoftwaresmixedhydrothermalsystemsmeansmixedhydrothermalsystemswithdominantlythermalsystem.HoweverinNepleasecontextmeaningofmixedhydrothermalsystemsmeansmixedhydrothermalsystemswithhydrodominatedsystem.othereischarchteresticdifererncesintwosystems,e.g.adecoupledoptimalrealandreactivepowerplanningmightbe(are)validwithacceptabledegreeofoptimizationforthermaldominatedsystem,howeversamemaynotbeacceptaleforhydrodominatedsystem.oThismayrequireschangeinobjectvefunctionitselfand/ormayrequireanewapproach.Consulatantneedstointuitforsuchpecularities.
Weexpectthemathistheretohandlethedominanceproblem;Theconsultantwillexploreproblemsandstriveforsolutions
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SN Comment Response PageCommentsfromMr.P.M.S.Pradhan1 Methodologyfordevelopmentofmodelsforoptimizationofsimplerunoffriver,peakingrun
offriverandstoragepowerprojectsisnotclear.HowtheconsultantwillpreparethecustomizedmodelforeachtypeofpowerprojectbeclearifedintheInceptionReport.
Itiselaborated
2 Aftercompletionofthecustomizationofmodels,theconsultantintendstopreparetheguidelinesforpowersystemoptimizationofhydropowerprojects.MethodologyforpreparationofguidelinesforpowersystemoptimizationofdifferenttypesofhydropowerprojectsbeclearifedintheInceptionReport.
Itisclarifiedandelaboratednow
3 TrainingonValoraguaandWASPsoftwarebeconductedatthebeginningofthestudysothatthetrainedpersonnelcouldbeusedforthestudy.Thetrainingonthecustomizedmodelspreparedbytheconsultantbeconductedattheendofthestudy.
Agreed.Wewillstarttrainingourstaffinthebeginning
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SN Comment Response PageCommentsFromS.Rajbhandaria Thescopeofworksmentionstheneedforoptimizationduringthefeasibilitystudy.Yes,itis
requiredtoascertaintheviabilityoftheproject.However,thedeveloperscarryoutoptimizationwithregardtotheirownprojectandnotthesystem.Atthesametime,itwillnotbewisetoaskthedeveloperstocarryoutoptimizationforthewholesystem.Hence,thecentralbodyresponsibleorthebodyappointedforapprovingshouldcarryoutthesystemoptimizationandaskthedevelopers,privateorpublictocarryouttheoptimizationoftheirprojecttofitintothesystem.
TheConsultantappreciatesthecomment.However,theproposedprojectintendstoestablishasystemthatcanassignatruevaluetoacandidateprojectfromtheEnergySystemperspective.TheConsultantisalsooftheopinionthatthesystemoptimizationshouldbedonebytheplanningentity.Optionally,thedevelopersorenergyutilitiescanevaluatetheirprojectsfromsystemprospectiveaswell,whileoptimizingtheirindividualprojects.BecausethisprojectisfocusedondevelopingGuidelinesforPowerSystemOptimizationofHydropowerProjectsandOptimizationofIndividualProjectsorassigningatrueeconomicvaluetoanycandidateproject,theGuidelinesshouldnotdependontheGovernmentalarrangements.TheConsultantunderstandsthattheClientwilltakethestakeoftheGuidelinesandmakewiseuseoftheguidelinestocopewiththelongtermenergypoliciesandassistthedeveloperstomaketherightchoicesofprojects.
b ThescopeofworkdoesnotmentionanythingabouttheEnergysecurityPlanandstrategy.Basedonenergystrategy,policiesareformulated.Intheabsenceofenergysecurityplan,policiesgetdistorted.
TheconsultantisoftheopinionthattheGuidelinesofoptimizationofthesystemandtheoptimizationofindividualprojectsaredoneinmoneytermsunderconstraints.TheguidelinesshouldnotlimitthenumberandkindofconstraintsandthesoftwaretobeaccompaniedshouldbeprovidedwiththeoptionsraisedbytheTAG.
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SN Comment Response Pagec ThescopeofworkissilentonthevariousnormsofGridCode.Optimizationmodulesshould
considerperformanceagainstGridCode.TheTORrequiresthattheGuidelinesdidntconflictwithanyexistinglaws,regulations,rules,acts,directivesandotherpolicydocuments.So,itimpliesthattheGuidelinesshouldtakeintoaccounttheGridCodewhiledevelopingtheGuidelinesandoptimizationmodules.(Section4.2.2)
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d Thewordsystemplanninghasbeenusedtodenotethedevelopmentofleastcostgenerationexpansionplan.Systemplanningtoolscoveawidegamutofplanningactivitiessuchastransmissionanddistributionplanningaswell.Hence,acleardefinitionofthetermneedstobemade.
WeagreethattheproposedGuidelinesaretohelpthedevelopersandtheplannerstoundertakethebestexpansionoptionandexecutethebestindividualprojectinthelong,mediumandshortrun.Thewholesystemofgamutcannotbemodeledwiththeproposedsoftware.Thesystemwilldefinitelybesimplified.ThemainobjectiveoftheGuidelinesistocomeupwiththebestexpansionplanandtruevalueoftheproposedprojectratherthanoperatingthesystem.FordetailedoperationperhapstheDSSVistaTMwouldbethebestcandidate,whichiscommercialandexpensive,andimplementationofwhichisquestionableinNepalesepowersystemofmerely700MWorless.
e ThescopeofworkspecifiesthecalculationofLRMCateachscenarioandnotateachvoltagelevelsorsystem.LRMCforeachscenarioshallbecalculatedforgeneration,transmissionanddistributionsystemand/oratdifferentvoltagelevels.
Theproposedguidelinesaresupposedtohelptheuserstoidentifythebestgenerationexpansionplanbasedonexistinginfrastructure.Atthefeasibilitystudylevelofgenerationexpansion,transmissionanddistributionbecometheconstraintsortheboundaryconditions.Thevoltagelevelswilldefinitelyaffectthesystemperformance,whichwillbeincludedwhilesettingupthemodel.
f TheWASPmodelevaluatesthereliabilityintermsofLOLP.ItwouldbebetterifLOLEisused.Thereliabilitylevelsfortransmissionanddistributionsystemsarecompletelyignored.Thishastobespecifiedinthescopeofworks.
Thestrengthsandtheweaknessesofthemodelwilldedevelopedinthereportassuggested.
g TheWASPmodelestimatesthegenerationonoptimaldispatchpolicy.Theimprovednewmodelhastheprovisionofmultiplegrouplimitationsforgenerationforasetofpowerplants.Itisknownhowmanypowerplantscanbeaccommodatedinthiscategory.ThisisofparticularimportancetoNEAwhenIPPgenerationisontakeorpaycondition.Thismightbevalidaswellforothercaseswheresurplusenergycannotbefullyutilized.
TheConsultantisoftheopinionthattheGuidelinesshouldhelptheplannerstomaketherightandneutraldecisionsregardlessofthetypeofpowerplants,whethertheyareNEAsorIPPsprojects.Itisimportanttogiveamonetaryvaluetoacandidateprojectfromthesystemperspective.
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SN Comment Response Pageh WASPcanaccommodateamaximumof30yearsofstudyperiod.Thisneedstobetakeninto
consideringwhilefinalizingthemoduleforoptimization.TheConsultantisawareofthisfactandthelengthofdatafor30yearsisassumedtobestatisticallystable.
i WASPaccommodatesamaximumof12periodsperyear,oneperiodforeachmonth.Therequirementmayexceedoneperiodforsomeparticularmonthsinourcase.
TheConsultantisawareofthisfact.Atthefeasibilitylevelitshouldworkverywell.
j Itwillbeworthwhiletoincorporatetheshorttermschedulingofgenerationinthemodule. Itsverygoodcomment.Fordaytodayoperationshorttermschedulingismandatory.Atthefeasibilitystudyleveltheshorttermschedulingmaynotberequired.
k AsynopsisofothermodelsbeingusedinutilitiesinotherpartsoftheworldneedstobeprovidedintheInceptionReport.Thiswillpresentaclearviewofwhatothersaredoing.
TheConsultantwasofopinionthatintroducingothermodelsintotheInceptionReportmayconfusethereadersandmayserveasanadvertisementofcommercialcompanies.Ontheotherhand,softwarebusinessisevolvingandtherefore,theremightbeverylittlebenefitfrommentioningotherstateoftheartssoftware,whichismuchmoreexpensivethanthefreelyavailableVALORAGUAWASPpackages.
l TheInceptionReportdoesnotidentifythedatagapsandotherrequirements.Iwouldappreciateifyoucould,sortof,comewithyourviewsonloadforecastingtechniques,forecastofloadcurvesandloaddurationcurves,reliabilityindicestobeadoptedandperformancelimitsandharmonization/synchronizationissuesforthestudyperiod.
TheConsultantappreciatesthiscomment.TheConsultanthasrequestedthedatafromNEAandDHM.Notalldatahavebeenreceivedyet.So,thedatagapsandotherpertinentproblemsrelatedtodatawillbeidentifiedastheConsultantsetsupthemodel.
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1 In page iii, correct the organizations of TAG members. Correct according in page 40. Adressed as suggested
2 Page 1: section 1.2: Rewrite first paragraph as MoEn issues licenses for powerprojects and DoED only recommends for the licenses after the due diligence of theapplications and other required information as per prevailing law.
Corrected as suggested
3 Page 5: Do we need to train the private developers? Corrected and private developers are removed4 Numbering of fig. 3.12 in page 9 and 3.1.3 in page 10 is not correct, similarly in last line
of p-10, Table 3.1.3 does not match the text.Corrected as needed
5 Source of fig. 3.3.1 is not mentioned. Mentioned proporly6 P-22, Table 3.4.5: Capacity of Upper Tamkoshi and Spelling of Chameliya is not
correct.Corrected as needed
7 P-23, 2nd last paragraph: Refered Table 7.3.1 is not correct. Corrected 8 Is the style of reference writing is correct. There are many conventions on reference. Referencing
using number is usual for engineering documents.However, the Employer may choose any other style aswell.
9 In annex B: does the list of license show the present power situation? Is it necessary? Corrected as needed
10 Fig. 3.9.1 Flow Chart is not complete (page-28). Completed 11 It would be better to mention the COD (Commercial Operation Date) of the exiting
projects in relevant table (table 3.4.1, 3.4.2) and information shall be updated.
Improved as suggested
12 It is suggested to add the under construction project by private sectors also. Improved as suggested13 In fig. 3.4.1 it would be better to add proposed TL like Solu Corridor, Kabeli Corridor,
Karnali Corridor etc.Added in the map. The map will be updated to the latestdata during the preparation of the Guidelines.
14 First two bullets have been repeated in last paragraph of section 3.9.2 (Page35) Done15 Page 40: Delete last sentence in section 4.2.3. Done16 Page 43: Replace LMRC with LRMC. Done17 Page 50: meaning of (*,**,***,****)? References to notes18 Page 52: river network shall be compatible to our hydraulic network with hydropower
plants.Improved
19 Page 25-27: Samples of WSSP and VALORAGUA shall be provided. Provided in Annex F
CommentsandresponsespertainingtotheenhancedversionoftheInceptionReport
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SN Comment Response Page20 It will be better if the consultant presented the list of candidate projects (catagorywise,
with brife salient features) that will be cinsiderad in the optimization process ofguidelines preparation.
Addressed in the last paragraph of scope of works